Here’s a man who could definitely move heavy robes aside

 
“I certainly agree the ethics were fucked.”

– Simon Overland at the Lawyer X Royal Commission.

Overland admits police may have perverted justice.

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47 Responses to Here’s a man who could definitely move heavy robes aside

  1. stackja says:

    Overland seems to believe that he is above all the usual expectations.
    Victoria police seem to be ‘different’.

  2. Professor Fred Lenin says:

    Overland was never a real copper,he was an aparatchik and alp party hack no real copper would have been involved in the Gobbo scam , the ramifications were too wide gain a little lose a lot,yiu know the socialist way of doing things.

  3. The Sheriff says:

    Overland should have been humiliated out of the state and forced to go overseas and live under a new identity for the destruction he inflicted on Victoria Police.

  4. Tom says:

    You have to live in Victoria to understand: Simon Overland is an expendable useful idiot that Dickhead Dan will happily throw under a bus to save Fatty Ashton’s flabby arse.

  5. Warwick says:

    This ‘ethical’ dilemma was covered in a Hill Street Blues episode back in 1983. Captain Frank Furillo was dating a public defender. Her client admitted to her he was guilty, and she canvassed becoming a witness against him, with the understanding she would never practice again, would be disbarred, and was very aware if would break a known code of ethics. She did what she knew she had to do – stay quiet and defend her client.
    Might be worth VicPol getting a Netlix subscription and studying up.

  6. Pyrmonter says:

    Jeremy Gans’s Twitter feed had Ken Jones’s statement in full – an interesting read; one that suggests the rottenness in that organisation was fairly widely known to governments of both persuasions.

  7. Porter says:

    Mr Overland said he didn’t know Ms Gobbo was giving police information about her clients, but that he should have.

    I ask again, who did he think she was snitching on?

  8. Mother Lode says:

    You have to live in Victoria to understand: Simon Overland is an expendable useful idiot that Dickhead Dan will happily throw under a bus to save Fatty Ashton’s flabby arse.

    I watched a program about Stalin on the week end – by David Reynolds, a Cambridge don who was surprisingly frank about the Uncle Joe’s peccadilloes, foibles and profound flaws.

    Stalin’s knack for identifying and advancing small mongrel men who were pathologically devoted to the leader of the pack and rewarded with an opportunity to indulge their sickened murderous appetites with absolutely no compunction and no humanity. Then, when they had worn out their use, when they were roundly despised and wore all the blame for their crimes, Stalin would throw them in front of a show trial and send them off to be shot.

    Clean slate.

    Then pick the next mongrel.

  9. Pyrmonter says:

    Jones’s statement. This is breathtaking:

  10. cuckoo says:

    On the face of it the Williams murder was unimaginable in that the most important state witness in the history of Victoria could be murdered within the most secure unit, which itself was located within our most secure prison.

    Gosh, that reminds me of something, but what…

  11. Infidel Tiger says:

    Holy shit.

    You could make a season of Underbelly for the next 50 years out of Jones’ statement.

    What a foul place Victoria is. A grimy third world hellhole with half good coffee.

  12. stackja says:

    Mr Winneke said it would have been “obvious” Gobbo was continuing to represent Mokbel in court and the former top cop’s evidence was “simply not correct”.

    “It beggars belief, Mr Overland that you could have been giving your investigators those clear and direct instructions and all of this was then permitted to happen,” he said.

    “It is unbelievable, I suggest to you,” Mr Winneke said.

    Mr Overland responded: “well no, that’s what happened.”

    Asked if he made a note of his instructions to investigators, he said he could not recall, but conceded there was no evidence he had.

    Mr Overland earlier admitted he stopped keeping a police diary or daybook during the period of Gobbo’s informing.

    The former chief commissioner is the latest high-ranking officer to reveal he did not keep a diary.

    Current police chief Graham Ashton and Assistant Commissioner Luke Cornelius last week told the commission they stopped taking diary notes within months of each other.

    Coincidences abounds.

  13. feelthebern says:

    The Morans were only 50% as dodgy as VicPol.

  14. Iampeter says:

    Obligatory if you support the Catholic Church then not sure what your issue is with perverting the course of justice post.

  15. Tom says:

    ML, you also have to understand about Victoria that the more corrupt Dickhead Dan and his cast of useful idiots are shown to be, the more the zombie electorate at large will vote for him. There is zero chance of a change of government while the state Lieborals are as ineffectual as fairies at a bikie convention.

    The key to winning elections in Victoria is buckets of free stuff. The Libs are far to0 nice to fight and business has realised the only way to get stuff done is bribes. There is legislation in the works to make CEOs personally liable for workplace deaths and the Stalinist state judiciary can’t wait to lock up their class enemies.

    Meanwhile, electricity is the second-most expensive in the world after South Australia and capital flight has become a stampede. Next to go will be the aluminium smelter at Portland.

  16. sfw says:

    Ever since Mick Miller retired the people selected for Chief Commissioner have been increasingly incompetent and progressively more political, when Christine (I had to eat) Nixon was chosen any pretensions to experience, skill and ethics were dumped. Ever since the only qualification for being Top Cop is a willingness to toe the Labor line and even misrepresent facts when required.

    What a wonderful time for an opposition to make hay, but that’s not gunna happen, there is no opposition in Vic, no Libs, no conservatives, no Liberals at all.

  17. Scott Osmond says:

    Hang them all. My bid is that no one will be sent to prison, no one will lose a retirement pention or be stripped of honours. Meanwhile when in Victoristan don’t say anything that may offend a “protected” group or drive slightly over the speed limit or you will be hammered by Victoria’s finest. Tell me, anyone living in that wretched hive of scum and villainy have the plods layed charges against those Labor party members who used public money for election purposes yet?

  18. Robbo says:

    I trust that the dud Overland will not be allowed to walk away from the disgraceful mess he oversaw as Chief Commissioner. He was a blatant political appointment following the deadhead Christine Nixon who was also a well connected Labor figure. Both of them were hopeless in the job but that didn’t worry them because the primary purpose of their appointments was to protect the Labor Government in Victoria. They both deserve to be charged over their respective roles in destroying the reputation of the Victoria Police and corrupting the justice system.

  19. Bronson says:

    bwahwahhaha peter the idiot pops up yet again with his own pet porpoise – the micks yet ad boring infinitem again. Yam get back on your meds you fruit cake.

  20. Leigh Lowe says:

    Tom
    #3264508, posted on December 17, 2019 at 3:43 pm
    You have to live in Victoria to understand: Simon Overland is an expendable useful idiot that Dickhead Dan will happily throw under a bus to save Fatty Ashton’s flabby arse.

    The preferred batting order of those to be saved is:-
    Tubby Nixon. Because vagina.
    Fatty Ashton. Red shirts saviour.
    Planet Cornelius. Fatty’s bestie from Feds days.
    Sorry Simon. It’s under the bus for you.

  21. Professor Fred Lenin says:

    Sfw ,I met Mick Miller several times ,great guyband a real Copper,as my mstes in the aforce used to say “a real coppers copper”not political but devoted to keeping the law . Mick would never have countenenced the Gobbo scam and God help anyone who suggested it,but that was before Vicpol , they didnt just change the name .

  22. sfw says:

    I’m with you prof, Kel Glare was out ofhis depth and that’s when the rot began big time.

  23. Porter says:

    Wow Ken Jones’ statement is devestating. The price he and his wife is paid is unfathomable. The red laser incident is really f****** scary, moreso if the people behind that and the death threats were other cops.

  24. Porter says:

    I can spell devastating. But seriously in that statement you read the mind of a dedicated cop but also the heart of a man whose vocation and reputation has been cruelly and unjustly ripped from him. And not a single person has been held to account. Beyond shameful.

  25. Fair shake of the sauce says:

    Thanks Pyrometer .

    Just read Ken Jones statement. Why is this not front page news with all the actors named shamed and jailed? The behaviour of the media towards Jones and his family was appalling.

    Can anyone tell me the 6 ACs in the meeting when Overland announced he was sacking Jones?

    Vic Gov ,Vic Pol , Vic Media more corrupt than the AFL!

  26. Porter says:

    A former government whip used his electorate ­allowance to travel interstate to meet women for sex, a corruption report says.

    WA Liberal Phil Edman. This has the smell of: Gobbo? No, look over there, unicorn.

  27. C.L. says:

    Would it be a stretch to say the red laser was trained on Sir Ken and his family by a police-issue weapon?

  28. Gab says:

    I’m still laughing at his “may have” euphemism.

  29. Old Lefty says:

    One thing on Pell’s favour is that the High Courte has the measure of VicPol: reprehensible, total betrayal of their duty as sworn police officers, etc.

    But will he live long enough to find out, given what Ken Lau’s statement revealed about the role of corrupt screws.on the Williams murder? Why, one wonders, has Mr John Cain III of the Office of Public Prosecutions just been made a judge and chief coroner?

  30. What a foul place Victoria is. A grimy third world hellhole with half good coffee.

    Victoria ought to be torn asunder into at least two new states, with the police, judiciary, government lawyers and prison staff all being clean skins to the trades. Those in these positions prior must be proscribed from ever having such positions in “Western & Eastern Victoria” ever again.

    This is not a radical position at all regarding the circumstances.

    Remember some of the reasons why the Eureka Stockade formed up.

  31. C.L. says:

    Yes, Old Lefty.
    They must be watching and taking it all in.

  32. BrettW says:

    Ken Jones’s statement an interesting read.

    A great shame his time in VICPol affected his future job prospects.

    His statement shows the OPI (I being for integrity !) was hopelessly compromised by being involved in joint operations with detectives.

    Outrageous the manner in which he lost his job in the classic clear your desk by end of the day manner.

    So were the death threats from police or criminals ? Or criminal police ?

    A lot of senior police got their promotions out of Task Force Purana and the cases assisted by Gobbo.

    Meanwhile to show they are a serious police force they have created a new command of Diversity Equality and Inclusion headed by an Assistant Commissioner !

  33. Matthew says:

    Where was Christine Nixon through all this? Teflon coated? But she was in charge, she was the commissioner….why no questions about her?

  34. Perfidious Albino says:

    Yes, and guess who is the new Assistant Commissioner…

  35. Megan says:

    I don’t understand how this is not being presented as a massive scandal. Sir Ken’s statement, supported by his impeccable record keeping, should have every person of conscience demanding all of senior Vicpol management and any other slippery characters sacked forthwith with prejudice. And then charge them with the despicable crimes and corrupt behaviour.

  36. stackja says:

    Megan – Victoria is a different place. Different rules apply.
    Politicians, bureaucrats and police don’t face scrutiny. Others do. Why? Mystery.

  37. C.L. says:

    I don’t understand how this is not being presented as a massive scandal. Sir Ken’s statement, supported by his impeccable record keeping, should have every person of conscience demanding all of senior Vicpol management and any other slippery characters sacked forthwith with prejudice. And then charge them with the despicable crimes and corrupt behaviour.

    Nobody understands it, Megan.
    But I could hazard a guess as to why the media (and the ABC in particular) are showing no interest whatsoever in undermining Victoria Police and its commissioner.

  38. Leigh Lowe says:

    Wow Ken Jones’ statement is devestating. The price he and his wife is paid is unfathomable. The red laser incident is really f****** scary, moreso if the people behind that and the death threats were other cops.

    They were.
    No doubt.
    The ombudsman’s report confirms that OPI employees planned to break into Jones house and access his computer … no doubt to plant incriminating material.
    Nixon.
    Overland.
    Ashton.
    Xunts of the highest order.

  39. Up The Workers says:

    “Lawyers’ ethics” are like a “Greenie’s intelligence” or “Gillard’s honesty” or “The Goose’s numeracy” or “Bill Shorten’s chastity”.

    Only ever visible in the negative.

    Christine Overweight,
    Simon Nixoff and
    The Ashton’s Circus Ringmaster.

    Three great Labor-appointed Chiefs of Farce Command.

    That’s what happens when the Crims’ Party runs operations on BOTH sides of the prison bars.

    In New South Obeid, “Dishonest Eddie” has just been released from prison like his criminal former Party Federal President and Milton “The Molester” Orkopoulos recently were, to rejoin his itinerant Left Testicle and continue precisely where he left off.

    Who will be the next inmate in A.L.P. “Prison-Lotto”?

    Very appropriate that the retiring C.E.O. of I.B.A.C., rejoices in the name of “Alistair MacLean”.

    He’s no stranger to the sort of rambling works of improbable fiction emerging from the A.L.P.’s Lawyer X bum-covering exercise to free over 600 economically unproductive incarcerated murderers, drug-dealers, gang-members and other Party “little maaates” from prison so that they can multiply reoffend, get on Legal aid once again and thereby vastly enrich Labor law firms from the taxpayers’ pockets.

    Wash, rinse, repeat.
    Wash, rinse, repeat.
    Wash, rinse, repeat…

  40. Megan says:

    I do actually understand the reality of life under continually corrupt, bureaucrats, police and politicians, most recently under Shovels Dan. And while the majority of voters continue to accept appalling behaviour, and reward it, the situation will continue to deteriorate until we all are awash in the disgusting, stinking cesspit that results.

  41. the sting says:

    Is there any way a citizen’s arrest could be made on the current and former Police Commissioners for perverting the course of justice ? We cannot expect the Victorian Police to do anything as it is obvious our whole system is corrupt .

  42. Up The Workers says:

    Former Chief Police Commissioner (and successor to Labor’s Simon Nixoff), Ken Lay certainly should be congratulated on his crystal-clear perspicacity.

    As soon as Dodgy Dan and his 40 Thieves and their dishonest and corrupt Red-Shirts lied and cheated their way to victory, Lay pulled the pin and scuttled off the scene.

    Not much future for an honest cop, sworn to fight criminals, in acting as Official bum-licker and apologist for them.

  43. Porter says:

    And not a single person was held accountable, Leigh, at least I can’t remember that anyone was. Just wipe out Victoria and start again.

  44. Porter
    #3265825, posted on December 18, 2019 at 7:21 pm

    And not a single person was held accountable, Leigh, at least I can’t remember that anyone was. Just wipe out Victoria and start again.

    The meme is spreading!

    Meme magic is real!

  45. Porter says:

    My apologies Frank, I didn’t realise you were a teenager. I don’t interact with children online, as a matter of precaution See ya.

  46. Docket62 says:

    Mr Overland earlier admitted he stopped keeping a police diary or daybook during the period of Gobbo’s informing.

    And will they be surprised if he is charged that meticulous contemporaneous notes are remembered after being located in the safe in a secure location, along with audio tapes.

    No need to bring out the (literally) smoking guns until it looks like the hoosegow is in order.

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