A pox on all of them

Having delayed it as long as possible, TAFKAS is being forced to convert his internet service to the NBN.  Not because he wants it, but because he is forced to.

Now it is worth noting, that TAFKAS was quite happy with the product, price and provider of his internet service but is now being forced to switch to a less reliable, lesser quality and yet more expensive product.

And now, like a bad Seinfeld episode, TAFKAS is trapped at home, between the hours of 8 am to 12 pm so that a lesser quality product can be installed.

Thank you very much RuddBull – you pair of malignant, perfidious turds.

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42 Responses to A pox on all of them

  1. Botswana O'Hooligan

    Join the club for on the old selection they gave us he option of NBN or nothing, we sold the old selection and lo and behold they gave us the same option at the new selection. Your chances Sir, Buckley’s and Nunn and good luck.

  2. Roger W

    You mean you don’t appreciate the efforts of the two greatest PMs the country has ever had (in their own humble opinions)?
    The only argument they could have would be who is #1 and who #2.

  3. Suburban Boy

    I believe the current phrase is, “A coronavirus on both their houses!”

  4. mundi

    Just wait another year or too, as NBN start pushing for money…. as they have a base price to reclaim per user.

    In the next 12-24 months a standard 50/20 internet plan is going to be over $120/month for sure.

  5. Michael Lewis

    I must admit that the change to NBN was seemless – from Telstra cable. The technichian even helped set up new foxtel boxes which happenned to arrive at the same time. The price through Telstra was unchanged and I can’t see any change in service – TV subscription and Internet. The only collateral damage was that the multitude of telephone points (and one receiver) no longer worked, but I was already using the “landline” from a radio transmitting base which was now shifted from a telephone point to the NBN modem.

  6. billie

    recently was in Japan and a lot of people there use a portable WiFi router

    I rented one for 3 week for $10 per day with the standard offer of unlimited download and 4G speeds, there were none of the bullshyte caveats all our telcos employ like slowing you down if they feel like it – it was flat out all the time.

    When on battery power alone it lasted 7 to 8 hours, but since we all carry a spare battery now, it was no issue

    4 of us ran all our devices constantly on it, it never failed us and you could simultaneously play videos on several devices with no drop in quality. Once, it did hesitate, but that was in Disneyland, Christmas day and max crowds, not unexpected and my phone had trouble as well

    they are a bit more expensive here but I just ordered a 4/5G unit from a big local telco and a plan that shares data with all our cell phones

    if this works the way I expect it to, then it will take over much of the load in our household because like TAFKAS I am also being forced onto NBN against my will and expect it to be a poor substitute to the current cable speeds I have now

    my concern is that as people take these up and move to 4G or 5G to WiFi where available, the NBN will be abandoned and of course government will cut us off to force us back onto the NBN

    a curse on all of them, Rudd and Conroy particularly, and Turnbull as well and the Labor Party and the Liberal Party as it is now, not as it was once, on green busybodys who can’t keep their behaviours to themselves .. oh I could go on and on .. but will leave it at that

  7. custard

    FWIW I recently switched to the NBN via iinet for no increase in monthly fee ($59.95) no contract, no fee for new modem and doubled my speed vs ADSL2+
    I will try to negotiate a faster speed deal further down the track but certainly don’t intend to pay any more $$$

  8. Destroyer D69

    And at the same time your digital life,ie anything that you do that hits the NBN at any stage of its journey is now visible to the äppropiate” government or enforcement agencies.

  9. Tel

    Out of curiosity, what technology were you on before and what are you changing to?

    And now, like a bad Seinfeld episode, TAFKAS is trapped at home, between the hours of 8 am to 12 pm so that a lesser quality product can be installed.

    That’s any service call … a plumber or electrician would be no different.

    I think in my area they are changing from ADSL2 over to VDSL on the same copper lines. In theory the VDSL modem should also support older modulation but I’m guessing they prefer to push you into buying a new modem. This is quite a trivial change, only delayed by years of wrangling over copper line maintenance and access, plus appalling bad management. New Zealand did their VDSL upgrade in about 3 years … and they were smart enough to get that easy upgrade out the way BEFORE considering putting fiber into ordinary people’s homes.

  10. Iampeter

    Yep, same exact story with me. Luckily my NBN connection has been even better than my previous service but if not what options would I have had?
    And the install was classic. They just never turned up. They made a change at the exchange and it all came online but they didn’t bother informing me, so I spent half the day at home for nothing and then found my new internet connection was magically working in the afternoon.

  11. Andre Lewis

    WE were forced onto the NBN and while only slightly more expensive the service is less reliable. Goes off periodically for no obvious reason and while faster than ADSL2 most of the time it slows down considerably at peak times. Not worth all the effort and public money in my opinion.

  12. My NBN came at $50/month less than ADSL and much better quality, though it was stuff at times because of the co-existance issue until every bastard in the area was forced to go NBN. Surprisingly, I stayed with Telstra.

  13. though it was stuff at times

    That should have been ‘though it was stuffed at times…’

  14. Kneel

    I had the same experience as custard – was on ADSL with iinet, with an NBN capable modem. Booked the change, done on described day, no need for them to access my place. I left for work with device on ADSL, I came home from work and it was working on NBN. I already had VoIP anyway, so no change there. Same price ($89/month unlimited data on NBN 50 + VoIP line + standard local/national/Oz mobile calls included).
    Speedtest.net says 47Mbps down /20Mbps up while streaming video from the US, so I reckon close enough to 50M/20M. My modem line sync is 140Mbps, so I can move to NBN100 if I want (no current need to though – 50 is fast enough).
    I can’t recommend iinet enough – they have always done what they said, when they said they would, including calling me back “in 18-23 minutes”. After my experience, I would not change suppliers again – Telstra/Optus are hopeless in comparison, I don’t know how they stay in business!

    If you have VoIP, and have some tech knowledge (happy to reconfigure your modem, eg), I would also highly recommend an Obihai VoIP adapter – does multiple providers with multiple lines, does 2 “phones”, does call bridging, callbacks, call routing & blocking, custom rings and tones etc. If you have friends OS who has one of these and you both have “anywhere in country” calls included (like me), you can add call routes via your friend and visa versa, so they can call anywhere in Aus for free. Not “(l)user friendly”, but if you have a clue, they are great!

  15. Woolfe

    If you are in Perth see if Pentanet is available at your cave, faster than nbn and seemless installation. Plus the added benefit is that your house now looks like a the international space station.

  16. From Viktoristan,

    Complaint #1 is the dodgy service. IP doesn’t drop more than 5 or 6 times a day, but stalls (very slow) at random intervals. NBN blames provider, provider blames NBN.
    Makes streaming video and VOIP a frustrating exercise.

    Complaint #2 RSPs with authority to configure your LAN. Who do you trust?

    Complaint #3 Previous cable service was more reliable and same price.

    FY kev.

  17. Rohan

    There are plenty of other better option for most areas in the major cities. I manage comms for te buisness group and only 1 is NBN (which happens to be in rural Vic with zero other options). 2 of the 3 melbourne sites are fixed wireless and far superior to VSDL type fibre to the node NBN offerings. The main office is private FTTP and its uncontested 100/100. That also has the option to scale up to as many 1gbs/1gbs links should i ever require that much pipe.

    Yes they are more pricey than the domestic NBN offrings but when the business needs guaranteed bandwidth all the time, its worth every penny.

    Many of these companies offer competative domestic grade services as well incliding being bundled with VIOP.

  18. MACK

    Seamless change with Telstra. The NBN blokes who laid the cable across the garden even put some lawn seed on afterwards! Very sharp couple of Indian technicians installed it efficiently and it has worked perfectly. But no discernible change from ADSL so a completely pointless exercise. For a fraction of the cost, the Ruddster could have provided universal coverage throughout the country with big subsidies for the less-well-off. Never trust the ALP with money (or anything else for that matter).

  19. Rayvic

    “Now it is worth noting, that TAFKAS was quite happy with the product, price and provider of his internet service but is now being forced to switch to a less reliable, lesser quality and yet more expensive product.”

    Sinking billions of dollars into the NBN, is an example of how Aussie pollies go about adversely affecting productivity.

  20. Fred

    Just sign up for Optus Wireless Broadband. 4g or 5g. Optus 5g is lightyears ahead of the NBN.

    I didn’t get NBN because the buffoons couldn’t work out how to get it into my apartment.

  21. Jock

    I also did not like the compulsion but I have to be honest and say that my provider was great and that in the 2 years we have had NBN there have been way lessoutages and the speed is way better thanthe old. Btw we are ftn.

  22. Bruce

    @Roger W:

    “The only argument they could have would be who is #1 and who #2.”

    Both, (and MANY more like them), #2, scatalologically speaking.

    And as for the Coronavirus and the dreaded Corollavirus; consider the pestilential Priusvirus.

  23. We are building a new home, the block is fully serviced everything underground, so I am presuming we will get fibre to to modem and no copper used correct? 5G wi-fi? I suppose an option, all about the price I guess.

  24. Rusty of Qld

    NBN came down my street 3 years ago, strung the cable up along the existing poles, not a problem as everything else is up there. Fibre to the modem, various different workers doing different parts of the work, zero efficiency, when the bloke ran the fibre cable from the box on the wall on the outside to the modem on the other side of the house inside ( Highset Queenslander) he just looped it through the cavity, no conduit for protection. Within one week a mouse had chewed a hole in that lovely soft plastic cable. Luckily one of the many contractors involved was a local TV cable and antenna fella. I ran a conduit through cavity wall to modem put in a draw wire and got him back to hook up new section of cable from box to modem. He said that they had told NBN/Telstra that the cables should be run through conduits but they knew better, getting heaps of call backs to replace chewed cables.

  25. I find it very funny when the bloke doing the add for NBN says if you intend to use during peak hours beware of slower service speeds, etc, 7-11pm? I thought it was meant to the state of the art stuff.

  26. rickw

    You feel the joy of having the comms for your industrial control system forced onto NBN.

    How can’t Australia be classified as a communist country?

  27. Perhaps you could of got your guy to chuck in a few packets of mouse killer bait as well. Just a thought.

  28. Texas Jack

    Modern Australia under the Liebrals….

    Lucky TAFKAS is only forced to change to the NBN. He should thank his stars he isn’t a banker looking to develop new product offerings, or a farmer looking to clear anything at all, or an export gas operator going about his normal business!

  29. Jason of Northcote

    Got to say, upgrading to Telstra NBN Cable from regular old Telstra Cable was a seamless process that delivered even better upload speed.
    It remains rock solid as it always has.
    The only change is the more visible maintenance that occurs on the network and knowing when downtime is.

  30. Politenessman

    The original NBN proposal was IIRC about 4 Billion and was designed to bring rural Australia up to par with regards speed and reliability.

    Then Labor got its hands on it and it spiralled out of control into what it is now.

  31. Sydney Boy

    I’ve also had the same experience as Custard – but with Dodo. No issues.

  32. Then Labor got its hands on it and it spiralled out of control into what it is now.

    The Education Revolution, Pink Batts, Roads to Recovery…

    Mind you, both parties have well and truly stuffed up the NBN. Who was the Liberal communications minister at the time? I think that says it all.

  33. Vagabond

    Like TAFKAS I am in process of having it installed after delaying as long as possible. Since November I have spent a total of 2 hours on the phone and about the same amount of time being ‘served’ in a Telstra shop. Still no action and I’m told that when the HFC modem is sent out I will have to install it myself . All this for 40% of the previous speed although the cost will be a bit less. I’m not optimistic about the service quality and since I despise the Turd, Krudd and Conroy already, there’s no one else to blame.

  34. C.L.

    And landlines will no longer work sans electricity.
    And if you have a vintage landline (as I do), it will no longer work.
    (I got around that, however, with a Dialgizmo that converts the signal).

  35. stackja

    Kev 07 legacy lives on.

  36. Crazyoldranga

    TOSSPOT, I mean TAFKAS, you are not being forced to do anything. As mentioned in the comments there are wireless services available to all and sundry. I have been on wireless, originally with Optus and now with Telstra, for 5 years. Currently getting 80Mbps download. Grow up man, and do some research.

  37. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Woo-hoo! I’ve deferred being lumbered with the NBNN* until March 2022.

    By which time 5G will be widely prevalent and I’ll be able to use that. Sucked in, Dudd and the Nuclear Milkman, you f#@king morons.

    *National Brontosaurus Network Network

  38. Squirrel

    The compulsion certainly does rankle, but at least now you won’t be a target for the proposed “levy” (tax) to be applied to non-NBN internet services, so that’s something to be humbly grateful for……

  39. Hasbeen

    I was forced onto the NBN, & it started on the 10/12/2019..

    It fell over on the 24/12/2019. Yes Christmas eve. Great reliability.

    A technician finally came on the 8/1/2020. Great service. He did fix the problem half a kilometer down the road.

    What a wonderful thing is the NBN.

  40. Entropy

    Well if TAFKAS is anything like me, I am being forced off bigpond 100/5 onto 100/20 HFC. I have until mid February.
    Thing is though that real average NBN speed is about 89 Mbps whereas Telstra overprovisioned their cable service and I was getting 115 Mbps. I don’t care about uploads, I am not running a gaming server.
    $89 a month unlimited including landline to $89 a month excluding landline.
    I’d call that a price increase for a reduction in service.

    Another note: the day I was planning to arrange the transfer I woke up to a broadband outage, although Telstra on its “outage” page reckoned there was no problems in my area. This annoyed me no end, and there was no way I was going to talk through the annoying Phillipines call centre rigmarole where they ask you to turn everything on and off again when you know damn well it is a problem on their end, so I signed up with Aussie broadband instead.
    Bigpond came back up while I was talking to ABB, but suck you Telstra.

  41. Entropy

    BTW I have heard that NBN HFC will get a real big speed boost option in May 2020. Much higher than 100 Mbps.

  42. Bruce

    Back when Australia was still a real country, the telephone network may have been “clunky, but it would work in pretty dire conditions.

    The exchanged had enormous battery banks, to hold up the DC voltage on all the lines. That DC Voltage was what made the entire system work. One f the more obviously interesting things about “fibre” is that, whillst it is capable of carrying a prodigious amount of data, it requites electrically-powered boxes at each end or node, to convert analogue to digital for transmission and then more power-hungry boxes to convert the digitized voice data to intelligible analogue signals.

    So, now, when the excrement strikes the air-circulating device and the power fails, vast swathes of the countryside has ZERO communications capability. Yes, the fancy NBN modem handles the breakout and delivert of phone, internet, etc., BUT, it is powered via a standard mains outlet. No mains, no comms. So, when a cyclone smashes your city and tears down vast swathes of the power dystem, you cannot call for help, because thee is no power to make your magic NBN “modem” work.Solar panels? A cyclone that smashes the electricity network will have played merry Hell with your solar panels and possibly the shed where you kept the back-up batteries and inverter.

    See also floods and bushfires. Ditto; “civil disturbances”.

    Wireless networks, also require CONSTANT power supplies from poles and wires or auto-starting backup generators. No fuel? No services. Also not fire, flood and cyclone-proof.

    Satphones? Priced them lately? Again, cute, but if you can’t recharge the handset, you are out of luck. Charging “Plan B” is also tricky if the car is under ten feet of water. The ONLY folk who MAY keep in touch will be those with HF and VHF radio gear; also dependent of power, and then there is the problem of storm-smashed antennae. (Serious HF antennae are BIG and relatively fragile).

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