Beginning of The End For Democrat Party’s Favourite War

BREAKING: US, Taliban sign deal to withdraw troops from Afghanistan.

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21 Responses to Beginning of The End For Democrat Party’s Favourite War

  1. jupes

    In exchange, the Taliban is assuring it will not allow Afghanistan to be used by terrorists to attack the United States.

    Well if you are going to surrender I suppose it is better to leave with a threat than useless waffle or platitudes.

  2. Tom

    The goatfuckers can’t believe their luck. The first Afghan terrorists’ convention has already been scheduled at the Kabul Hilton before Christmas. Then the US B52 squadron on Diego Garcia turns the joint into a flat, smoking tank park in January — no US body bags required!

    That’s how US foreign policy should have always been conducted in the world’s most rancid terrorist shitholes. Trump gets to keep the US military industrial complex (the bit that makes the mother of all bombs) and the troops in uniform happy simultaneously. The guy’s a political genius. It turns out the 2020 election was a pushover. #PresidentForLife. LOL.

  3. No matter how this pans out in the long run, it’s a victory for Trump that will have the Democrats and media frothing at the mouth trying to find an angle as to why it’s a failure. Trump. Winning.

  4. Scott Osmond

    For those who call a withdrawal a surrender answer me 2 questions. 1 how long should America keep it’s troops in and 2 are you willing to spend the money and lives to do so? Part of the deal should be a promise that next time we won’t invade we’ll just bomb every village and town to rubble.
    Bringing the boys home should play well with a country that is sick of playing nation building. I give the Afghanistan government about 18 months if that before they are gone. Don’t be surprised when the big wigs show up in Switzerland with accounts bulging with all the money silly westerners have been giving them to rebuild their country over the last 2 decades. It should all be confiscated as proceeds of crime.

  5. Iampeter

    The correct title for that should read: “The US surrenders to the Taliban in Afghanistan.”

    And Trump ordered this.

    To spin this conservative-caused disaster as some kind of setback for democrats is a pretty glaring example of mindless tribalism.

  6. jupes

    For those who call a withdrawal a surrender answer me 2 questions. 1 how long should America keep it’s troops in and 2 are you willing to spend the money and lives to do so?

    1. Until they have won.

    2. As much and as many as it takes.

    The initial stage of the war was an example of a brilliantly executed military plan. In hindsight, the US should have left after the Taliban had been defeated in 2001. The mistake was to stay on and “nation build”.

    Once the Taliban started infiltrating back into Afghanistan, the US didn’t have the willpower to destroy them, so here we are. I agree with Trump that the US should withdraw. “Nation building” in an Is*am*c hell hole is a waste of money, effort and lives. Just leave and if they fuck up again bomb them back to the stone age.

  7. Candy

    Good news. Aiming for some peace after 20 years as Trump promised.

    A US president had to go down this path eventually and may as well be the Republicans.

    Obviously hard for the Trump haters but we need to rise above that tribalism.

  8. mh

    I was listening to BBC world service the other night. They interviewed a US female soldier who had done three tours of duty in Afghanistan. She was asked what she hoped would be the outcome of any deal, and said all she hoped for was the best for the Afghan people. The follow up question was quoting some of President Trump’s remarks to her about US troops in Afghanistan. It sounded like the interviewer was fishing for some anti Trump comment, but the American talked about how long US troops had been there, nothing was changing, there is no real purpose, thought putting other military personnel through sometimes ten tours of duty was too much.

  9. Archivist

    Trump promised to reduce America’s worldwide military commitments, and he’s doing that.
    He’ll need those extra resources on hand, in preparation for conflict with China.

  10. max

    Year after year, decade after decade, the American Establishment ignores the obvious: Saudi Arabia has been bankrolling recruiting schools for radical Islam.

    Getting into Afghanistan was not the problem. Getting out has proven to be a never-ending problem. When you cannot define victory after an invasion, you cannot leave the battlefield without losing..

    Osama bin Laden’s “Most Wanted” Poster: No Mention of 9/11

    Gary North – November 22, 2016
    Printer-Friendly Format
    The FBI never accused Osama bin Laden of having had anything to do with 9/11.
    https://www.garynorth.com/public/15919.cfm

  11. Petros

    So we trust the Taliban to keep their word?

  12. Scott Osmond

    No. But if they keep their insanity to Afghanistan and out of the west than who cares? The Taliban’s big mistake was to host OBL and his marry men. If they hadn’t they would still control the place. So the deal should be keep it within Afghanistan and we will leave you alone. The flip side should be hit us or host someone who does and instead of an occupation it will be carpet bombing Dresden style. At some point the people who live in a country have to take responsibility. These open ended nation building exercises so beloved of the globalists are a proven failure that only costs all sides blood and treasure.

  13. shatterzzz

    Afghanistan is neanderthal country .. the British found out in the 19th century, the Russians found out in the 20th century &, at last, the USA has found out in the 21st century .. Government is/was/and always will be CORRUPT .. soaked up all the foreign aid, mainly into Swiss bank accounts .. at least leaving it to the Taliban might ensure a lot of the moneymakers won’t be around to access their ill gotten gains.
    American troops get to go home, alive .. Taliban takes control .. normal life goes on unchanged as it has done for centuries ……..

  14. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    So we trust the Taliban to keep their word?

    They’ll honour any agreement, signed with unbelievers?

  15. Iampeter

    1. Until they have won.

    2. As much and as many as it takes.

    Also, if they were ever serious about point 1 then it wouldn’t have taken very much of point 2.

    But neither conservatives nor progressives really oppose the Taliban.
    Progressives don’t oppose them because they are anti-Western.
    Conservatives don’t oppose them because…well…they’re just more serious version of conservatives.

    Neither mainstream political movement in the West today actually understands or supports the values of Western Civilization.

    So here we are. America surrenders to the Taliban.

  16. rickw

    Afghanistan is neanderthal country .. the British found out in the 19th century, the Russians found out in the 20th century &, at last, the USA has found out in the 21st century .. Government is/was/and always will be CORRUPT .. soaked up all the foreign aid, mainly into Swiss bank accounts .. at least leaving it to the Taliban might ensure a lot of the moneymakers won’t be around to access their ill gotten gains.
    American troops get to go home, alive .. Taliban takes control .. normal life goes on unchanged as it has done for centuries ……..

    I’ve been to Afghanistan several times and have travelled over most of the country. Your assessment is pretty accurate. The best solution for Afghanistan is targeted bombing whenever the goat fuckers get ideas about projecting power outside of the sandpit.

    Unless you are going to shoot every imam and level every madras and mosque, there’s no other sensible option.

  17. candy

    Iampeter
    I know you hate Trump but do you not see any positivity in this? Otherwise you are proving CL’s point exactly.

  18. Zatara

    The initial stage of the war was an example of a brilliantly executed military plan. In hindsight, the US should have left after the Taliban had been defeated in 2001.

    Absolutely correct. Afghan should have been handed over to our allies the Northern Alliance no later than the end of Dec 2001.

    But the bleeding hearts had issues with the new leaders of Afghan being ‘warlords’ so 18+ wasteful and bloody years of ‘nation building’ ensued.

  19. Professer Fred Lenin

    Think of the taxpayers money saved by pulling troops out of Afghanistan Syria and Irak?
    Next pull US troops out of Europe and let the Peoples Republic of Eurostan pay for its own defence . The Russians are no threat , they only want to prvent the Fourth Reich from taking lebensraum in the Ukraine colony and supporting ethnic Russians living there from Ukrainian and EU opression .

  20. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Army would follow US withdrawal from Afghanistan
    Anthony Galloway
    By Anthony Galloway
    March 1, 2020 — 3.06pm

    All Australian troops could be out of Afghanistan within 14 months after the US and the Taliban signed a historic peace agreement.

    Australia, along with other coalition forces, will follow the US in any troop withdrawal from the country, but there are still further negotiations to come that could derail the deal.

    US President Donald Trump said it was “time to bring our people back home” after the US signed the deal with the Taliban, which sets into motion the potential for a full withdrawal of coalition troops.

    The US and NATO allies have agreed to withdraw all troops within 14 months if the Taliban upholds its side of the deal, which includes a “a permanent and comprehensive ceasefire”.

    A full withdrawal would mark the end of a near two-decade war in which 41 Australian troops have been killed.

    There are about 200 ADF personnel still serving in Afghanistan.

    Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton said Australia welcomed any peace agreement after “a lot of effort” had been put in over the years since coalition forces entered the country in 2001.
    Brighter future

    “Australians have fought alongside our allies for many years in an effort to provide a brighter future for Afghanistan,” Mr Dutton told the ABC’s Insiders program.

    “It’s been an incredibly important effort and if there are troop withdrawals and we’ll work that out with the United States, but obviously the Taliban need to abide with any conditions on such agreement.

    “If there’s a withdrawal of coalition troops, we’ll do that in line with consultations with the United States, the UK and our Five Eyes partners.”

    Asked whether he was comfortable with the Taliban being back in power, Mr Dutton said: “Well, I’m comfortable if people aren’t being slaughtered and attacked and that young girls can go to school.

    “And this will be part of the discussion and as you say, we want to make sure that the Taliban and others abide by the conditions and the intent of the agreement. But we’ll wait for the detail.”

    Sydney Morning Herald.

  21. Iampeter

    I know you hate Trump but do you not see any positivity in this? Otherwise you are proving CL’s point exactly.

    Your opinion of Trump shouldn’t have anything to do with being able to see this as the disaster that it is.
    Posts like CL’s and yours prove my point about mindless tribalism.

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