Wednesday Forum: March 4, 2020

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  1. Cassie of Sydney

    ““I survived polio and scarlet fever — some rubbish out of bloody China …. Harrumph””

    My mother said similar Areff….and she reminded me that she survived whooping cough.

  2. Calli:
    What Arky said.

    And no casual sex with strangers.
    Either of them. Give them a stern look on this point.

    My imagination just played that scenario out, and I larfed. I larfed so loud!

  3. calli

    Do not put paper towels down the toot. They are not soluble. The last thing you want is a back-up and a shortage of plumbers. Same goes for wipes.

    Be sensible, peoples!

  4. stackja

    Wuhan virus survival assumes reasonable health.

  5. calli

    On my elderly parents. I told mum if she insisted on a cappuccino after shopping, she should come up to my place and she could have a risk free one.

    Her reply – I’m not that desperate! 🤣

  6. OldOzzie

    Aged care worker tests positive to coronavirus

    A 95-year-old woman who was being cared for by an aged care worker with coronavirus at a nursing home in north-west Sydney has died overnight.

    It is unknown whether the nursing home resident passed away from coronavirus but NSW health authorities are awaiting test results.

    The aged care worker has become the third-locally acquired case of coronavirus in Australia, raising fears that elderly residents may have been infected.

    The worker, aged in her 50s, was an employee of the Dorothy Henderson Lodge aged care facility at Macquarie Park near Macquarie University. It is particularly alarming given the majority of deaths worldwide from the virus are among elderly people.

    However, NSW health authorities have not placed the nursing home in lock down.

    NSW Health Minister Brad Hazzard said the aged care worker was a “much loved’’ and long term member of the nursing home’s staff who had been in close contact with 13 residents, 11 of who have been placed in isolation. The other two elderly residents presented with respiratory symptoms with one, the 95-year-old woman, passing away. The other unwell resident is aged 82.

    The aged care worker has been quarantined at Royal North Shore Hospital and is in a stable condition. Mr Hazzard said the woman had worked at the facility, part of the BaptistCare group, for more than 20 years and began to get symptoms of the virus on February 24.

    Mr Hazzard said the staff member had not been overseas, raising the question of how she ended up with the virus. “She was working on around about 24 February when she started to get those symptoms — the sort of symptoms that we’re all very familiar with, with flu,” Mr Hazzard said. “And so we did the checks. And, of course, we’re aware that it’s likely that she could have been capable of passing on the coronavirus from at least the day before, 24 hours, so that’s 23 February.”

    Appearing before Senate estimates in Canberra on Wednesday morning, the Chief Medical Officer Dr Brendan Murphy, said there were significant concerns about aged care, and health officials were holding a “large planning day” with the sector later this week.

    AMA president Tony Bartone also said the latest incident of human-to-human transmission was of grave concern given the aged care staff member worked in close proximity to the most vulnerable members of the community.

    “It is a significant issue that a healthcare worker, who has been working in an aged-care facility, has tested positive for the virus,” Dr Bartone told The Australian. “Unfortunately, that now has major implications for all healthcare workers at that facility — and who are the frontline when it comes to caring for the elderly — and also for the residents.

    “These residents are very vulnerable: they are elderly, many already have complex underlying conditions, and this disease is particularly devastating in those circumstances.”

    Dr Bartone said it was crucial the wider community observed a number of simple health precautions if the spread of the pathogen was to be limited. “It’s not a time to panic — but it is an important reminder of the need to self-isolate if you develop symptoms, maintain correct hand-wash hygiene, and observe proper cough etiquette,” he said.

    “Being told to self-isolate means exactly that. It means to isolate yourself immediately — not go on a detour of the local supermarket or foodstore first – but to isolate yourself straightaway.”

    Doctor may have infected patients

    Health authorities are struggling to track possible coronavirus victims amid fears that an infected doctor, who worked at Ryde Hospital and who is now under quarantine, may have spread COVID-19 to his patients.

    The virus outbreak in Australia escalated overnight, with the total number of cases in NSW ­rising to 15. Since the weekend the number of cases in NSW have risen by 11.

    In a statement, NSW Health said a woman in her 50s had not travelled outside of Australia recently and “is believed to have acquired the illness locally”. It is not known if the woman had links to Ryde Hospital or the infected doctor.

    A man in his 30s has also tested positive for COVID-19 after returning from Malaysia on March 1. He flew from Kuala Lumpur to Sydney on Malindo Air flight OD171 — seated in row 15 — with efforts now being made to contact his fellow passengers.

    NSW Chief Health Officer Kerry Chant confirmed 40 Ryde Hospital medical staff had been ordered to isolate themselves for 14 days and were investigating how the 53-year-old contracted the virus. The isolated staff include 13 doctors, 23 nurses and four other health workers.

    The Australian understands the doctor treated patients after developing symptoms and there was confusion over whether he had contracted COVID-19.

    “We still don’t know how he acquir­ed the infection,’’ Dr Chant said. “We are doing an investigation as we speak. He did not care for any of our positive cases but we are doing some additional investig­ations into what patients he saw, to see whether there were any undiagnosed cases.”

    Dr Chant said the doctor had come into contact with a “large number of patients”, who NSW Health was contacting to inform of their potential exposure to corona­virus.

    NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian warned the number of cases is likely to go up in the next few days. “What is scary on this situation is that the vaccine is not yet developed but we ask everybody to stay calm, to go about business and to stay updated the NSW health website is giving our citizens in NSW timely information,” she told Nine’s Today Show on Wednesday.

    The total number of corona­virus cases in Australia has risen to 41, with more people undergoing tests, including a passenger who landed at Victoria’s ­Avalon Airport.

    Victoria has confirmed its 10th case of coronavirus after a man, aged in his 30s, recently returned from Iran. Victorian Health Minister Jenny Mikaos said the is almost symptom-free and is self-isolating at home. A formal announcement from the Victorian Department of Health and Human Services regarding the man’s case will be made soon.

    Federal Health Minister Greg Hunt said 75 countries and regions had virus outbreaks, including the first cases reported in Indonesia, Saudi Arabia and Portugal.

    Across the globe, more than 90,000 coronavirus cases and 3100 fatalities have been confirmed, including the death of West Australia­n James Kwan.

    The scare for NSW Health staff and patients came amid a clash between state and federal authorities over “tracing” measures, which have been set up to track down people who have come into contact with coronavirus patients.

    Dr Chant said authorities were still waiting for the Australian Border­ Force to provide passenger cards of people who sat near a woman diagnosed with COVID-19 who flew into Sydney on February 23 aboard Qatar ­Airways flight QR908 from Iran.

  7. Ed Case

    Just tested paper towel in sink.
    Not soluble.
    Thanks Calli.

  8. stackja

    calli – Used non flush paper in plastic bag in rubbish bin.

  9. Mother Lode

    Cormann’s explanation is absolute tosh.

    The connection between a symbol and the symbolised is convention. The Cross is a symbol, Christianity the symbolised.

    The Union Jack is a symbol, the UK is the symbolised (according to context – if you had a drawers filled with national flags, recordings of anthems, pictures of heads of state etc, the Union Jack could symbolise ‘Flags’. On websites it often represents the English language version of pages).

    Is he saying that most people associate white with colonialism? Or, as he phrases it, that he associates white and colonialism?

    What he is actually doing (I expect) is even more stupid. Taking anything white as symbolising white people. He hopes to score virtue points with our money.

    I think Cormann is a symbol…

  10. Roger

    NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian warned the number of cases is likely to go up in the next few days. “What is scary on this situation is that the vaccine is not yet developed but we ask everybody to stay calm…”

    Oh dear….I had to laugh.

    Stick to the script, Gladys.

  11. calli

    Sensible, Stacks.

    Treat like a disposable nappy. There are one-way bins at nursery stores for storage too. And anti-bacterial liners. You’ve just got to think laterally and plan ahead.

  12. Zyconoclast

    French company EP Tender has revealed a novel way of extending the range of an electric vehicle (EV), with a tiny trailer filled with batteries.

    The range-extending trailer houses 60kWh batteries that can add 350 miles (563 kilometres) of range and be charged while driving.

    EP Tender’s figures are taken from use with the small Renault Zoe EV hatch, stating that its 120 miles (193kms) of range, when combined with the trailer’s, will increase to a total of 470 miles (756kms).

  13. Roger

    Not much love for Bloomberg out there in middle America, even among Democrats.

    Not surprising.

  14. Shy Ted

    Why can’t we have Comcars the colour of prominent aborigines? White.

  15. Leigh Lowe

    I am running the garden hose through the toilet window and making a jury-rigged bidet.
    I will report back on results.

  16. Cassie of Sydney

    “I think Cormann is a symbol…”

    yes….he is the symbol of a venal, parasitic, supine, stinking, cretinous, spineless, untalented, gangrene group of men and women who have the audacity to call themselves Liberals and yet everyday they side and agree with Labor and Green scum and everyday they give the finger to the ordinary men and women of this country who voted for them last May.

  17. Bruce of Newcastle

    Not much love for Bloomberg out there

    He’s big in American Samoa.
    An epitaph which cost him $1 billion.

  18. Delta A

    chaamjamal
    #3343074, posted on March 4, 2020 at 2:25 pm

    Those research papers are laughable… almost. Each one of them would have been funded by grants via the poor taxpayer.

    My favourite was the one asserting that climate change causes more injury and accidents, with copious gobbledegook to support their claim.

  19. Mother Lode

    So I bought a white Ford Territory in 2013. Now Cormann suggests it’s time to move away from the colonialist past.

    Colonialists are always after more Territory.

    And white?

    Cormann is going to wet himself.

  20. Helen

    Ken Wyatt, by having a drafting yard before stuff gets to the committee is ensuring that only the stuff he reckons the committee should see arrives at the table.

    It is classic greenie stuff. Example :- The Pastoral Land Board is supposed to be autonomous in the NT, but the Department has taken a policy position whereby they will vet anything going to the Land Board (applications for clearing alternate land use etc) and will not pass it on until it is fit to be passed on. (Meets greenie objectives)

    I have bucked the Department of greens about this before and they were unable to tell me who I would appeal to, if I was not satisfied with a directive from the Department of greens as the Chairman of the Board is responsible by law, but the Chairman had no input or direction about what the Department were doing.

    The mechanics are the same. The sub committee will be a filtering and polishing committee.

  21. Huck

    Way too good to leave on the old thread.

    Porter
    #3342752, posted on March 4, 2020 at 10:05 am
    and yet you’ve told up you attend a “happy-clappy” (your words) Pentecostal church, openly mocking your own denomination!

    Jesus Christ are you on the same drugs as no fixed address? I said no such thing you demented tool. Give up you’re too stupid even to be a troll.

    Followed by:
    Gwendolyn
    #3342767, posted on March 4, 2020 at 10:20 am
    and yet you’ve told up you attend a “happy-clappy” (your words) Pentecostal church, openly mocking your own denomination!

    Jesus Christ are you on the same drugs as no fixed address? I said no such thing you demented tool. Give up you’re too stupid even to be a troll.

    Here are your own words at proof:

    Our happy clappy p.m. is well over 50

    (For the non-churchgoers, p.m. means Sunday p.m. church service.)

    Careful Porter, you are violating the 9th (or 8th) Commandment.

    Has this site ever had a more stupid post (Sideshow Bob’s contributions don’t count)?

  22. Geriatric Mayfly

    On the Beach

    Recall going in to Flinders St to watch Miss Gardner going through her paces ie. crossing from Young and Jacksons to the steps of the station. Several takes and Ava, in between, doing some controlled burning of cigarettes. Then Frank Sinatra turned up for a tryst with the her in Melbourne’s best hotel at the time which was some dive in St Kilda Rd. He was gracious enough to give a concert in Festering Hall which I attended.

  23. Snoopy

    The aged care worker has become the third-locally acquired case of coronavirus in Australia, raising fears that elderly residents may have been infected.

    The worker, aged in her 50s, was an employee of the Dorothy Henderson Lodge aged care facility at Macquarie Park near Macquarie University.

    Just next door to Eastwood and Ryde. Mmmm.

  24. miltonf

    Spot on Cassie. In the great tradition of Malcolm Fraser.

  25. OldOzzie

    Australia ‘captured’ by French submarine contract, shipbuilding board member says

    Ben Packham
    FOREIGN AFFAIRS AND DEFENCE CORRESPONDENT

    The Morrison government’s Naval Shipbuilding Advisory Board says the decision to hand Naval Group the $80bn Future Submarine project without a plan B has effectively left the nation “captured” by the French defence giant.

    In a stunning testimony to Senate estimates, board member Ron Finlay said the government had given up leverage in its in the drawn-out negotiations with Naval Group by “down-selecting” to the French option in 2016.

    He said as negotiations with the company became bogged down in the second quarter of 2018, the board advised the government to consider dumping the French company, and look at engaging German, Japanese or Swedish firms to build the next generation submarines.

    But Defence argued none of those options would deliver the “regionally superior” submarine that Australia required, Mr Finlay said.

    Under questioning by Labor Senator Penny Wong, Mr Finlay said the government’s naming of DCNS which later became Naval Group – as the successful bidder without any alternatives had compromised the government’s negotiating position.

    “In my experience, many decades of negotiating major contracts, if you do not have an alternative of either going to bidder ‘b’ or cancelling the project, yes you are captured in a negotiation with few options,” he said.

    “And, that does increase the number of issues that can become a block to concluding the negotiations.”

    Mr Finlay told the Senate’s Foreign Affairs and Defence committee that, as negotiations with Naval Group threatened to break down in 2018, the board advised the government to look at alternative vendors, or consider a full rebuild of all six Collins-class subs “to buy time” to look for an alternative bidder.

    He said the board was concerned the French company would be unable to deliver promised sovereign submarine-building capability, upskill the Australian workforce, or maximise Australian content in the boats.

    Mr Finlay said the United States’ government requirement that the design of the Lockheed Martin provided combat system for the submarines not be shared with Naval Group was also a “higher-order risk”.

    From The Comments

    Right! said Fred
    1 hour ago
    What a mess, thanks Mal.

    Kent
    1 hour ago
    Bloody staggering! What was Turnbull thinking?

    Donjoy
    1 hour ago
    He wasn’t.

    Max
    1 hour ago
    This submarine debacle is just so bad, for we Australians, that is just unbelievable. The NBN, was/is bad, Rudd’s handling of the GFC was bad .

    But they don’t come near this mess.

    Why ?? because it seems, we had Mr Turnbull as PM., and his attempting to “buy” Pyne’ s Adelaide seat in parliment, with straight out political expediency, of the worst order.
    Surely, we must cancel out of this mess, before it gets any worse. !!

    Common sense must prevail for once, if that’s ever possible, in the halls of power in Canberra.
    It looks obvious, that the only practical sensible course for Australia’s defence capacity, is to buy American nuclear subs.

    If we ever get into trouble in our region of the Pacific, we need to have serious heavy armaments, that are totally compatible with the Americans. That is if the ANZUS treaty means anything. It is critical,for our future defence.

  26. old bloke

    calli
    #3343083, posted on March 4, 2020 at 2:35 pm

    On my elderly parents. I told mum if she insisted on a cappuccino after shopping, she should come up to my place and she could have a risk free one.

    Her reply – I’m not that desperate! 🤣

    I can’t say that I blame her Calli, I’d be reluctant to visit anyone who has the peculiar habit of squeezing dogs in their bathrooms.

    A most peculiar habit indeed.

  27. Helen

    What does toilet paper have to do with it, though?
    I don’t get it.

    People want to lessen their exposure, to do that they need supplies, TP being one of them. If you have a months supply, then you dont need to go back to virus central for another month. Every time you go out, increases your risk of exposure.

    And yes some Kung Flu sufferers do get the squirts but only for a couple of days, I think.

  28. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    ‘If I do get the Coronavirus I’m attending every MAGA rally I can’ – Denver Communist Official Says She Will Use Deadly Virus as Bio Weapon Against Trump Supporters

    This woman should be charged and constrained now. She is making threats via a carriage medium (or equivalent US charge) to do major injuries via bioterrorism. At the very least she should report to a health facility weekly for a nasal swab re Corona virus and forcibly isolated if she has it.

  29. JC

    Cassie

    I’m well stocked of toilet paper and looking to sell some at $899 a single roll. 🙂

  30. OldOzzie

    Coronavirus: Pressing the panic button on COVID-19

    JACK THE INSIDER

    I spent six hours at Westmead Hospital yesterday. Not by choice mind you. I was a bit reluctant to make an appearance to be honest, given that three cases of COVID-19 had been diagnosed there.

    But you know what? It was business as usual there. I didn’t see one masked face inside the gigantic public hospital in Sydney’s west. The staff were as professional and efficient as ever. People went calmly about their business.

    There was no pervading sense of doom, no skull and crossbones signage about the place. Well, no more than the usual warnings about snaffling cytotoxic material and taking it home to show your mates.

    Without wanting to be overly dramatic Westmead Hospital is on the COVID-19 front line and refreshingly, it was a sea of calm in an ocean of mad panic.

    I know in this post-fact era a lot of weight is given to people’s opinions. It is sometimes said that an opinion is like the excretory opening at the end of the alimentary canal because everyone has one, but in these days of social media where people delight in telling others what they reckon on all manner of topics and sundry affairs, opinions are more like gut bacilli in that everyone has loads and most of them are not terribly interesting.

    That’s a tough situation at the best of times but when it comes to unstoppable pathogenic viruses a little knowledge is literally a dangerous thing.

    The first sign that experts are being ignored is toilet paper hoarding. The one and only question here is why? What do people expect from COVID-19 – explosive diarrhoea? Spontaneous combustion? Or do they see themselves as survivors of an imagined post-pandemic future where toilet paper becomes a universally accepted currency?

    Fight to the death for bog roll

    I could understand it if there was a sudden outbreak of amoebic dysentery but for a respiratory disease it makes no sense. Tissues, sure. Paper towel, all right but only for frontal use, OK?

    Have we reached the stage where people who have seen too many movies of the end times, have started to think, “I’ve got a shopping trolley full of 48-packs of four-ply. With that kind of post-apocalyptic coin, I could end up being Queen of the Thunderdome where people fight to the death and the victor is swathed in bog roll.”

    If people are going to firmly press the panic button, they should be aware that where there’s hoarding there will always be profiteering. An illicit distribution of scarce resources at exorbitant prices. A brown market, in this case.

    The Great Toilet Paper Reckoning is upon us and it is only a matter of time before we see dodgy looking characters stepping out from shop fronts.

    “Psst. I got half a roll of Quilton Soft and Sanitary. Yours for a monkey. Feel the quality.”

    And don’t get me started on hand sanitisers. You might have seen them before they disappeared from supermarket shelves in a rush of panic buying. These products proudly boast that they kill 99 per cent of germs. What, like 99 per cent of bacteria? All but one per cent of microbes? The overwhelming majority of bacterium? Maybe. But they don’t kill COVID-19. You can check the label if you don’t believe me.

    Dim Doomsday Peppers

    Alas, as with outlaw motorcycle gangs, it’s the one per cent that does all the damage.

    And while I’m at it, who are these people who need to be reminded to wash their hands? What are we in primary school? The act of washing one’s hands with soap and water creates an oil which, if done effectively (for two minutes at a time, the experts say), microscopic nasties are removed from the skin and bundled down the drain.

    Hoarding is about the silliest thing a human being can do. We see it under normal circumstances at least twice every year. Go supermarket shopping on Christmas Eve or Maundy Thursday – the two days that fall before the only two days on the calendar year where supermarkets will be closed for a full 24 hours and it’s like the Doomsday Preppers have taken over.

    On the weekend I saw a news reporter vox popping hoarders who were leaving the shops with their trolleys fit to burst. One bloke proudly announced that he hated Spam but had bought a gross of it. Apparently that’s how he sees his future, grimacing over a plate of Spam, Spam, Spam, powdered egg, Spam, Spam, Spam and Spam.

    It says a great deal about hoarders that their imagined futures are worse than the present.

    I am fairly sure these people haven’t quite thought things through.

    I don’t want to make light of an unfolding global human tragedy but the thought of being locked away in my house with my family for weeks if not months is a nightmare far worse than any pandemic. It wouldn’t matter if the pantry was bursting with Spam. A couple of weeks in lock down and I’d go looking for a bad dose of the Black Death just to take the edge off the tension.

    This is why we have licensed premises, people. To get away from our families.

    Smarten up, Australia.

  31. OldOzzie

    ‘Most elective surgery’ will be cancelled if coronavirus spreads

    Most elective surgeries in public hospitals will have to be cancelled if the coronavirus spreads in Australia, the nation’s chief medical officer Brendan Murphy has warned, as state health authorities activate their pandemic response plans.

    “To create capacity in the system to contain an outbreak, we will certainly have to cancel elective surgery,” Professor Brendan Murphy told a Senate estimates hearing on Wednesday.

    “You would have to cancel most elective surgery.”

  32. Arky

    I am fairly sure these people haven’t quite thought things through.

    ..
    Nah, I’m pretty sure it’s you who hasn’t thought it through.
    ..

    But you know what? It was business as usual there.

    ..
    Do you know what exponential growth is, Jack?

  33. JC

    The toilet paper hoarding is people showing what a market rush is like and why it’s important being on the front foot. It’s what I’ve lived my entire adult life. 🙂
    It also illustrates why and how government intervention or the potential threat destroys active functioning of markets.

    If the big retailers raised prices massively you would see the market ration these products. If the retailers tried this senior execs would get 30 years hard Labor and their families thrown out on the street.

    Of course libertarians are to blame. 🙂

  34. Infidel Tiger

    Of course libertarians are to blame.

    Mass immigration – check
    Outsourcing to China – check
    Limited border controls – check

    I’d say 95% of the Wuhan Flu is liberalism’s fault.

  35. Arky

    Mass immigration – check
    Outsourcing to China – check
    Limited border controls – check

    ..
    Covering cancerous beagles in whipped cream, rooting and then eating them – check

  36. Arky:

    Covering cancerous beagles in whipped cream, rooting and then eating them – check

    Oh, FFS Arky.
    You put the bloody whipped cream on them after you root them. Otherwise they’re too hard to hold.
    Unless you’ve araldited a couple of handles onto their rib cage.

  37. Stimpson J. Cat

    Stimpys Fun Facts:

    A quick reminder that there has still not been a single confirmed death from Coronavirus WORLDWIDE
    of anyone wearing Denim Shorts.

    It’s not too late people.

    Don’t be stupid.

  38. Infidel Tiger

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump

    The biggest loser tonight, by far, is Mini Mike Bloomberg. His “political” consultants took him for a ride. $700 million washed down the drain, and he got nothing for it but the nickname Mini Mike, and the complete destruction of his reputation. Way to go Mike!

  39. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I went to Coles in Bondi Junction this morning at 9am to buy supplies for four weeks for Attapuss’s visit to his ‘carer’ my second son, who can’t for particular reasons be trusted with the money to purchase cat food and cat litter as needed each week. The place was like Bedlam. Heaps more people than you might expect to see usually on a Wednesday morning and an atmosphere of frantic excitement as trolleys sped around the aisles in pick-up mode. A special vista of long empty shelves where toilet paper and Kleenex used to live, major queues taking an hour to get through because people had two trolley loads of stuff; a lot of it tins and pastas. Big gaps in shelves here and there for favoured items. I got the last two big paks of Attapuss’s ‘no grain’ dry kibbles, and one of the last big paks of his excellent recycled-paper litter. Didn’t find any of his Fussy Cat Red Label meat. I couldn’t buy the two smaller ones at a cut rate of $25 for there was only one of those left. I guess he will have to make do with best beef mince for humans. There has obviously been a run on these items, although plenty of Whiskas still. I took six tins of Whiskas Chicken Mince just in case. He’ll eat them at a pinch.

    I chatted in the long wait period with a woman hosting two trollies worth. She said virus was bad, no? I said not too bad, I was still going on my cruise next week. Not Asia? she squeaked in horror. No, US and Mexico. She blossomed at that. I am Mexican, she said proudly. Sadly, I couldn’t tell her where we were going in port, because I have no idea. Going to Panama down the coast, I say helpfully, and to show I was a novice I said how do you say hello and goodbye in Mexican. Is Spanish, she says, Is Hola, hello, and Adios, goodbye. I know that already, I heard it in the movies, I say delightedly, and when she is finished through she waves goodbye, saying loudly Adios, enjoy your cruise, causing all around the preppers us holding the last of the toilet paper to stare at me in amazement at my venturing forth so daringly onto Oceans Unknown. Felt like Vasco Da Gama or someone.

  40. JC

    I find it reprehensible the big retailers are basically too frightened to raise prices on the crap being sold out. They’re scared to hell.

    I’d do something that would shut the anti-market fuckers up and raises prices massively. In concert, they should raise prices and explain the reason, which is to stop hoarding and the difference donated to charities. The idea prices can’t be moved substantially with sudden demand shifts is beyond moronic. It’s criminal.

    It also perfectly illustrate why socialism is a total bust.

  41. Twostix

    “The minister continued: “I think that … that the white colour, in my mind, reflects a bit of a colonial past that we’ve moved on from”.

    Turning up at someone elses country and getting a job in their government doesn’t make you “we”.

    You’ll never be one of us you rootless shit.

  42. JC

    Arky, Artie

    Get back in your kennels. I’llcall you two if and when we need attack dogs. Go on shoo. 🙂

  43. Pay day today.
    Our onsite rate has just gone up under the EBA…
    Over 7% increase to base hourly rate!
    CFMEU, dudes!

  44. Tom

    I’m well stocked of toilet paper and looking to sell some at $899 a single roll.

    Laughed out loud, JC.

    Actually, if you’re in the selling game — i.e. Qantas or its bastard child Junkstar — $899 is not as good a trigger fare as $999, which denotes “less than $1000”. Less than $900 is not nearly as catchy.

    You should check out the company transport (QF), JC. They’re doing MEL-JFK for $1350 rtn in cattle class and I’d guess the depression in demand is across all classes, so I’d reckon you’d be able to do MEL-JFK rtn for around $3000 rtn in premium economy.

  45. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Couple of edits there make the sentences a bit wonky. Don’t know why this computer skips back a few words with any edit. To clarify, the medium litter were $25 for two, about 30% cheaper than usual on special. The preppers were ‘all around us’.

    My new Mexican friend was doleful about no toilet paper. I noticed she had four paks of the cheapest plain white table serviettes in her second trolley. You are going to use those instead? I enquired, as they are so cheap I had thought of it myself if we should run out of tp (Hairy thinks that unlikely). Mrs Mehhico looked at me aghast. No. No. These we need. They are for the table, she added helpfully, no doubt putting me into the deeply Philistine category for that comment. I nodded. Of course, I add smoothly, of course they are.

    There is not a lot of innovation in some people’s emergency thinking.

  46. RobertS

    1. The people I’ve seen buying large amounts of toilet paper are mostly wogs.
    2. Who said Belgians didn’t have a sense of humour?

  47. OldOzzie

    Trump Was Right to Let Turkey Advance in Syria

    The outbreak of direct combat between Turkey and the Syrian regime of Basher al-Assad has shown the wisdom of President Donald Trump’s strategy in the area. He took considerable flak for pulling American troops out of northern Syria last October. It was argued that the withdrawal in the face of a Turkish advance would threaten the Kurds, a longtime U.S. ally, and could even revive ISIS! In response, President Trump tweeted “As I have stated strongly before, and just to reiterate, if Turkey does anything that I… consider to be off limits, I will totally destroy and obliterate the Economy of Turkey.” U.S. troops redeployed to protect oil fields in Syria to keep them out of the hands of the regime and to protect the Kurds in the area, but a military confrontation with Turkey was avoided. The White House understood the strategic benefits from stronger Turkish-Sunni forces being brought into territory liberated from Assad; a calculation made on a level beyond what critics could grasp.

  48. Steve trickler

    The clip from a flick that changed the rules.

    For those who are little confused, allow me to try to explain.

    The people on the floor are trading in future contracts for Frozen Orange Juice (FCOJ). Future contracts are a deal between a seller and a buyer: “I promise to provide this commodity at this time as long as you promise to pay for it at this price.” It doesn’t matter if you don’t have the commodity or even the money right then, as long as you provide it at the time.

    Before, the Dukes received a fake crop report that says that the winter damaged the orange harvest. They think that this will cause the price of orange juice to rise. However, Valentine and Winthorpe know that the harvest was unaffected, and that the price of OJ will go down.

    Here’s what the Dukes’ plan is:
    1. Borrow money “on margin” from the stock exchange, with the promise to pay it back.
    2. Buy a lot of future FCOJ contracts to drive the price up.
    3. When the crop report is revealed, the price of FCOJ will skyrocket because of the lower supply and higher demand.
    4. They then sell all the contracts they bought up at a higher price than they bought them for, earning a profit.

    Here’s what actually happens:
    1. The Dukes start to buy up contracts, driving the price up. The other brokers think that they’re trying to corner the market and start buying as well.
    2. Winthorpe and Valentine offer to sell future contracts, causing the other brokers to start buying from them and drive the price back down.
    3. The crop report is revealed: the orange harvest is unaffected and the price of FCOJ plummets. Everyone who bought the contracts, including the Dukes, is now trying to sell them and “zero their position” so they don’t lose all their money.
    4. Winthorpe and Valentine start to buy back all the contracts that they previously sold to zero their position, earning a profit on each purchase due to the lower price; however, they are careful not to buy any from Wilson, since they want the Dukes to be holding the ball at the end of the day.
    5. At the end of the trading, Winthorpe and Valentine have bought back all the contracts that they sold, and have made off like bandits. Meanwhile, the Dukes are left holding a bunch of now-worthless contracts. They are hit with a margin call—a demand to settle their debts to the stock exchange immediately—and because they don’t have the money to pay back what they borrowed, they wind up bankrupt.



  49. JC

    Tom

    My kid arrived back last Sunday as we have a wedding to go to. She paid $US 1100 in cattle on quaintarse… actually I paid for it because the spoilt brat always runs out of money..

    Wifey, I think, just booked us for our May moved over there.

  50. It can’t be Unkie Joe, no way!
    The world has just gone nuts today while I was in the basement, surely??!!

  51. Infidel Tiger

    As bad as Biden is, it’s a good sign even the far left D’rats are rejecting Bernie.

    Endorsing Communism, Castro and every anti-Semitic thing he could this week probably hurt too.

  52. cohenite

    Jessie
    #3342914, posted on March 4, 2020 at 12:26 pm
    I still fail to understand the issue of DNA testing and claims of racial profiling
    cf Marcia Langton

    The 54th nations are genetically prone to a number of weird things and even common diseases and conditions at a rate greater than non 77th nations folk but inconsistent with environmental factors and personal behaviour. Genetic research is however a big bug bear:

    https://www.mja.com.au/journal/2012/197/1/genetic-research-indigenous-health-significant-progress-substantial-challenges

  53. Leigh Lowe

    JC
    #3343110, posted on March 4, 2020 at 3:15 pm
    Cassie
    I’m well stocked of toilet paper and looking to sell some at $899 a single roll. 🙂

    Idiot!
    Sell by the sheet.
    Full rolls get the last five sheets free, but pay a $5 deposit on the recyclable cardboard tube.

  54. OldOzzie

    Throwing a Block onto Erdogan’s Refugee Stunt

    Turkey – with a degree of truth behind it – blames the West for destablizing Syria; but ignores that Isl(m is the greater culprit in the disaster. Israel blames Iran for meddling in Syria. And the European Union, as always, is screwing everything up.

    Now, Erdogran is blaming the EU for not subsidizing Turkey to help support the migrants in Syria.

    There is a solution to this and it beings with laying the blame on Isl*m. M&slims seem unable to generate stable societies. They have no ability to compromise, and their societies are always internally in conflict.

    1) The West should inform Turkey that Greece will be helped to secure its borders. Make it clear that this is only a defensive border sealing.

    2) Inform the Syrians, Turks, and Iranians that the problem is not European imperialism – nor Israeli aggression – but Isl*mic insanity. And make sure to address the issue that Spain was under Isl*mic imperial occupation for eight centuries, while the Balkans were under occupation for six centuries. So cries of continuing European imperialism – which was rather limited and short – will ring hollow.

    3) Inform these countries that commercial, political, and economic isolation of all three – Syria, Turkey, and Iran – will be imposed until all three sort this mess out themselves. It is not Europe’s responsibility to assist until both Iran and Turkey stop pressing for a restoration of competing (Shia vs Sunni) Caliphates.

    4) Inform Turkey and Syria – Iran, right now, is hopeless – that any and all aid will be conditioned on acceptance of Israel’s right to exist, and naturalization of Palestinians within their borders.

    Wouldn’t that leave Turkey saddled with 3.6 million Syrians? Yes, and arguably, this is not right, either. But Lebanon is overrun with Syrians, too; and is in a more precarious position given Lebanon’s small and fragile demographics.

    Just inform the Mideast that if Turkey collides with Iran over which version of a Caliphate is preferable, then Europe will not absorb the overflow. Just isolate all three: Turkey, Iran, and Syria until this mess is sorted out.

    President Trump understands this technique. He is presently isolating Iran and Lebanon. No money at all to anyone until Turkey and Iran both stop interferring in Syria. No aid to Syria until Assad resigns. This is what the French used to call a Cordon Sanitaire: a quarantine. None of those three regimes are stable, and the costs of isolation would be collapse.

    Maybe the EU should take a hint from a master of the deal.

  55. Infidel Tiger

    If most public toilets are any guide you can use the seat, the floor and the walls to wipe your arse.

  56. Infidel Tiger

    Marianne Williamson
    @marwilliamson

    Jake Tapper referred to the “resurrection” of Joe Biden’s campaign. This was not a resurrection; it was a coup. Russiagate was not a coup. Mueller was not a coup. Impeachment was not a coup. What happened yesterday was a coup. And we will push it back.

    Take it to the streets!

  57. lotocoti

    Had a shufti in the only Coles within an hour’s drive.
    Sorbutt 8 packs are half price. The midway stack was only 6′ high, so you’d better hurry.
    Hexenhammer must have some fans. Rice was cleaned out. (Forgot to check iodised salt.)

  58. Leigh Lowe

    JC
    #3343123, posted on March 4, 2020 at 3:38 pm
    I find it reprehensible the big retailers are basically too frightened to raise prices on the crap being sold out. They’re scared to hell.

    One thing which shits me about this whole thing is the hypocrisy of Big Education.
    The arseholes demand government protection of their rivers of Chinee gold by letting students in on sham quarantine deals, and endangering the public.
    It wouldn’t bother me so much if these same avaricious xunts in Big Education weren’t constantly bagging the likes of George Calamari for paying dishwashers $34/hr instead of T +1/2 $50/hr, or farmers for shipping cattle offshore, or miners for digging up useful product and selling it, and they would be all over Colesworth if they jacked up the price of dunny paper.
    Of course, I have heard the vomit that Big Education dishes up. They are not in it for the money. It is all about “the Asian century”, “building bridges” and “breaking down barriers”.
    Never about the money.
    No sir-ee.

  59. OldOzzie

    So God Sent Us a Salesman

    There has never been a moment in the public spotlight when Donald Trump was not brawling with somebody, and almost all of his enemies, like deer in the headlights, seem paralyzed with surprise when they find themselves on the receiving end of one of his acerbic barbs. Like Qassem Soleimani, they just never see it coming.

    When Obama’s loyal henchmen in the federal government orchestrated a coup against his successor out of petulant spite, President Trump calmly looked ahead and kept pushing his agenda forward. He never slowed down. He never gave up. He just bit his lip, bided his time, and prepared for a future settling of all accounts. Along the way, he has become the most transformative and consequential president the country has seen in a hundred years.

    For three decades, the Republican Party has ashamedly failed at selling to the American people the idea that freedom in all its forms is superior to the socialist slavery the Democrats have on offer. They have so utterly collapsed in the only battle for America’s future that matters that political correctness and hate speech laws have metastasized into outright censorship, religious persecution, denial of due process, and gun confiscation. So God sent us a world-class salesman, and the sleeping giant in the middle of the country awoke. For the first time in too long, the very idea of liberty that shaped our nation’s birth is bubbling to the surface again, and President Trump has shown a new generation what’s at stake. And because freedom is colorblind and an aphrodisiac that invites the unshackled to its banner, he has expanded the Republican Party in ways that seemed unlikely just a short time ago.

    While Bloomberg, Biden, and Bernie grovel in obeisance to their Chinese lords, President Trump sees American-made steel, American-made pharmaceuticals, and American-made electronics as instrumental to American freedom.
    The Democratic Party wants to give American citizenship to the world, but the communist virus is a timely reminder that the illegal and uncontrolled flow of people across our borders not only depreciates wages and destroys American culture, but also sacrifices the lives of American citizens. The misery of Chinese communism created this virus, and the misery of Democratic Socialism seeks to spread it across the United States. Border security is health security. And energy, steel, and manufacturing independence is independence from overseas tyrants.

  60. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Hairy has just gone off to visit his 90 year old ex-mother-in-law, of whom he is very fond.

    She lives in an aged care facility, I think she has a separate apartment, so I don’t think it is a nursing home although I know there is one in the vicinity that provides the ‘next level’ of care if required.

    Where she lives is quite an up-market facility from what he says. Still, I expect the staff are the usual internationals. He actually asked me for one of my little bottles of hand sanitizer for the visit. Even you’re spooked just a little bit, I jest.

  61. Infidel Tiger

    In a righteous country a pandemic would result in a bottleshop mobbing.

    That’s how FNQ and Northern WA do it.

    The last of real Australia.

  62. Infidel Tiger

    JC is probably hording quince paste.

  63. RobK

    Idiot!
    Sell by the sheet.

    …..and seperate the plies for greater returns.

  64. Helen

    Here you go Ebay to the date rescue. Only 2 ply though. A carton free postage for $60.00.

  65. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    So God sent us a salesman. Great piece there in the American Thinker.
    Deserves to be widely put around.

  66. Cassie of Sydney

    “JC
    #3343110, posted on March 4, 2020 at 3:15 pm
    Cassie

    I’m well stocked of toilet paper and looking to sell some at $899 a single roll. 🙂”

    Are they double rolls?

    Does that include transportation costs from Melbourne to Sydney?

  67. feelthebern

    Mini Mike, don’t lick your dirty fingers.

    T shirt has been ordered.

  68. feelthebern

    I’ve got a stock of that quilton 4 ply.
    Seems a bit excessive during the ScoMo panic of 2020.

  69. egg_

    Chi nks snapping up toilet paper in Lane Cove – do they use chopsticks with it?

  70. OldOzzie

    We Go From Hysteria to Hysteria

    We go from hysteria to hysteria.

    And even that’s not quite accurate. We now endure multiple hysterias at once.

    If these trends continue, the world economy is likely to enter a recession, if not a depression.

    Unless the coronavirus becomes a worldwide mass killer, it will be fair to say that the hysteria over coronavirus will cause much more suffering than the virus.

    All this leads to three questions:
    1. Why aren’t we seeing a sober, measured reaction to the virus?
    2. What has caused this hysteria?
    3. Why are so many people in panic mode?

    Answer to question 1: Because people have lost all perspective.

    Answer to question 2: Overwhelmingly because of the news media.

    Answer to question 3: This one is perplexing.

    I am not certain why people panic so easily. Perhaps it is built into human nature. Perhaps it is the power of the media to influence people. Perhaps it is because life is so easy in the modern world that people have come to expect a life without deadly illness or premature death from any cause. Perhaps it is because of the lack of perspective noted above.

    There are things about which people should be panicked. For example, the contempt for America and capitalism taught to a generation of young Americans from elementary school through college is worthy of panic. The extreme levels of economy-collapsing debt we are irresponsibly piling onto the backs of future generations to maintain “entitlements” is worthy of panic. So is the premature sexualization of children—encouraging them to choose their own gender and taking 5-year-olds to public libraries for “drag queen story hour.” But such things hardly register with most Americans.

    It was a Democratic president who told Americans, during World War II no less, that “we have nothing to fear but fear itself.” He is a liberal idol, in part for saying that.

    That is more or less exactly what Trump has been saying. Yet he’s an “existential threat” to our country.

  71. Cassie of Sydney

    “I’ve got a stock of that quilton 4 ply.”

    It’s the best Bern…the best.

  72. Des Deskperson

    “The minister continued: “I think that … that the white colour, in my mind, reflects a bit of a colonial past that we’ve moved on from”.’

    On reflection, I can’t believe he was serious. There is no doubt an operational reason for the change, but Cormann must be, as they say, be having leg-pull.

    He’s supposed to be one of their brightest.

  73. 8th Dan

    The Morrison government’s Naval Shipbuilding Advisory Board says the decision to hand Naval Group the $80bn Future Submarine project without a plan B has effectively left the nation “captured” by the French defence giant.

    The contract has termination clauses and the termination fees payable at various stages. The further the contact is allowed to run, the higher those fees will be. It is not too late to abandon the current project, pay the termination fees and opt for a better deal.

  74. Neil

    One thing which shits me about this whole thing is the hypocrisy of Big Education.
    The arseholes demand government protection of their rivers of Chinee gold by letting students in on sham quarantine deals, and endangering the public.

    Plus they find ways of staying swamping the job market. There are 600,000 foreign students in Australia. Big money for Universities. But when they see the lifestyle they want to stay and not go home. Plus they drive down wages. Research is contract work so it is legal to pay someone for 3 days work but they work 5 anyway. Makes it tough for local students who have to compete with people willing to work for 3 days pay but work 5 anyway

  75. Arky

    The ASX hasn’t fallen far enough for my taste today.
    What the hell is wrong with this country? We have hundreds of thousands of potentially infected overseas students, a return to deficits, highest property prices in the known world and we are days away from having to wipe our backsides with mittens the neighbour’s cat.
    Why wont this market die?

  76. OldOzzie

    Sweden Teacher: Those Opposed to Isl*mic Headscarf Should Leave The Country

    A teacher in Sweden has expressed strongly-worded opposition to a mooted ban on religious headscarves in schools, saying that those opposed to the garment have no place in the country at all.

    Naouel Aissaoui, who is employed as a teacher in the municipality and follows the M*slim faith, said she will defy any ban on the Isl*mic headscarf, also known as the hijab, which she wears.

    Aissaoui engaged in a conversation with centre-right Moderate Party member Loubna Stensåker Göransson, who is supportive of a ban on the hijab in local schools, and said she associates the veil with the oppression of women and religious indoctrination.

    “You cannot come to a country that is secular and equal and live with medieval values,” Ms Göransson said, reports Nyheter Idag.

    “I feel confident and strong with my faith that says that there is God who is greater than Skurup municipality and this decision,” Aissaoui said and expressed confusion over Göransson’s stance, given the fact that Göransson is also from an immigrant background and is a fellow M*slim.

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/03/03/muslim-woman-those-opposed-isl*mic-headscarf-should-leave-sweden/

  77. OldOzzie

    Sweden Teacher: Those Opposed to Isl*mic Headscarf Should Leave The Country

    A teacher in Sweden has expressed strongly-worded opposition to a mooted ban on religious headscarves in schools, saying that those opposed to the garment have no place in the country at all.

    Naouel Aissaoui, who is employed as a teacher in the municipality and follows the M*slim faith, said she will defy any ban on the Isl*mic headscarf, also known as the hijab, which she wears.

    Aissaoui engaged in a conversation with centre-right Moderate Party member Loubna Stensåker Göransson, who is supportive of a ban on the hijab in local schools, and said she associates the veil with the oppression of women and religious indoctrination.

    “You cannot come to a country that is secular and equal and live with medieval values,” Ms Göransson said, reports Nyheter Idag.

    “I feel confident and strong with my faith that says that there is God who is greater than Skurup municipality and this decision,” Aissaoui said and expressed confusion over Göransson’s stance, given the fact that Göransson is also from an immigrant background and is a fellow M*slim.

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/03/03/m*slim-woman-those-opposed-isl*mic-headscarf-should-leave-sweden/

  78. OldOzzie

    Fears of outback outbreak as miner quarantined

    A Pilbara miner is at the centre of a coronavirus scare, with resources workers and remote communities fearing they could be dangerously exposed.

    The worker at the Fortescue Metals’ Christmas Creek mine has been placed in isolation after returning from Indonesia with flu-like symptoms.

    “One of our team members has presented with symptoms that meet the Department of Health’s minimum criteria for testing for COVID-19,” FMG chief executive Elizabeth Gaines said. “We are implementing all necessary precautions in accordance with health guidelines.

    “The employee has been isolated pending the outcome of the test, which we anticipate receiving within 48 hours.”

    Clinics in Aboriginal communities are also concerned, particularly given relatively high rates of diabetes and heart and lung conditions.

    Lorraine Anderson, medical director of the Kimberley Aboriginal Medical Service, said remote clinics were already on the lookout for symptoms consistent with the virus.

    Indigenous health organisations will gather in Canberra next Tuesday to discuss the threat the virus poses to communities with little ability to isolate patients.

    Dr Anderson said it was difficult to isolate people in communities where housing was scarce.

    “And we also suffer a lot of chronic disease, which makes elderly patients more susceptible to any infection,” she said.

    “Testing is another worry — it takes at least a week if you live in a place like Balgo because the sample has to go to the nearest town, Broome, and then down to Perth.”

    She said she understood that one Pilbara community was restricting access by outsiders as an infection control measure, but Kimberley communities were open.

    A number of workers in the Kimberley medical service’s five remote clinics servicing 10 communities had “self-selected” and isolated themselves for a time after returning from countries flagged as of concern.

    “We may end up with staffing problems in remote clinics if that escalates,” she said.

    Scott Morrison said on Wednesday that the federal government was talking to Aboriginal leaders “because in remote indigenous communities if the virus were to get to those places, obviously there was a real vulnerability there”.

    “And so we’ve been reaching out to those communities to work through how preparedness can be put in place,” the Prime Minister said.

    Victoria Laurie
    Senior Reporter

  79. cohenite

    So God Sent Us a Salesman

    Amen.

  80. Roger

    He’s supposed to be one of their brightest.

    Given the intellectual calibre of the rest that’s not saying much.

  81. 8th Dan

    I couldn’t tell her where we were going in port

    Not Cabo; not Acapulco; not Panama City

    .

    Felt like Vasco Da Gama or someone.

    Da Gama didn’t go to the Americas. Sailed around the Cape of Good Hope and up to India. Probably why there are still so many Portugese there.

  82. OldOzzie

    WOULD YOU LIKE ice with that?

    Hitting the Australian market in February, the CFX3 55IM fridge is a single-zone fridge with a difference. Huh? Yep, it’s got a built-in ice maker; not to be confused with a dual-zone fridge/freezer. We borrowed one from Dometic for a week to put it through a range of tests.

  83. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    A man with coronavirus spent 15 minutes in a Tasmanian supermarket after being asked to self-quarantine, forcing authorities to review help for people entering self-isolation.

    Seriously, I have been saying this here for a while. We should have charities and service organisations all prepared to take a telephone list for people heading into self-isolation and to get it from the supermarkets, with further runs also possible. Leave it on the front doorstep and all monetary transaction online. At the moment people are told to self-isolate and they get into a taxi from the airport, stop at a supermarket, drop off some dry cleaning, call in on a friend to tell them what they are up to, and then close their front door.

    Useless. Better organization needed now.

  84. calli

    Idiot!
    Sell by the sheet.

    Beat you to it on the OOT.

    Square and ply is innovative, I admit.

    Again, I urge a bit of sense. Do Not put tissues, serviettes or kitchen paper down the loo. You are almost guaranteeing a choke and backup. Into your shower, bath and basin. Yay.

  85. OldOzzie

    The 9 things you need to know about Karijini

    Karijini is the jewel in the crown of the Pilbara National Park. It draws hundreds and thousands of people to tackle the gorges, swim in the natural pools, and just generally go ga-ga over the beauty of the place. So, when are you heading to Karijini?

  86. OldOzzie

    The 9 things you need to know about Karijini

    Karijini is the jewel in the crown of the Pilbara National Park. It draws hundreds and thousands of people to tackle the gorges, swim in the natural pools, and just generally go ga-ga over the beauty of the place. So, when are you heading to Karijini?

    https://magazines.unsealed4x4.com.au/magazine/issue-073/travel-the-9-things-you-need-to-know-about-karijini/?acid=9d35903721ae610c14df304abd07fc78

  87. Roger

    Useless. Better organization needed now.

    The authorities are reportedly innovating solutions.

  88. Roger

    Some good news amidst the doom a& gloom:

    Very heavy rain falls in western QLD, heading for outback New South Wales.

  89. Diogenes

    been saying this here for a while. We should have charities and service organisations all prepared to take a telephone list

    Coles & wooies home delivery. Uber eats, deliveroo, eat fresh, youfoodz, even jenny craig and if all else fails meals on wheels

  90. Gilas

    Arky
    #3343168, posted on March 4, 2020 at 4:26 pm

    The ASX hasn’t fallen far enough for my taste today.
    Why wont this market die?

    I am asking the same question.
    A nation of pusillaminous sheeples deserves no less.

  91. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    I can see a business opportunity here for Mr Rusty – t-shirts printed with “I survived the great toilet paper shortage of 2020”.

  92. cohenite

    Speaking of the charming RoP and its wonderful contribution to places like sweden, don’t they bring joy and happiness everywhere they are.

    Good News: Paterson, N.J., Gets RoP Police Chief and RoP Call to Prayer Over Loudspeakers

  93. The contract has termination clauses and the termination fees payable at various stages. The further the contact is allowed to run, the higher those fees will be. It is not too late to abandon the current project, pay the termination fees and opt for a better deal.

    Terminate the deal and tell the French to get stuffed over their penalties.
    No, really. Tell ’em fuck ’em. They can sue for it.

  94. jo

    Steve trickler

    The clip Bladerunner 2049 on last nights OTT was great. That one and the original are the only movies Harrison Ford is any good in.

  95. min

    Bet all those panic merchants catastrophing and buying up toilet paper have kids who are extinction rebellion , Greta followers .

  96. shatterzzz

    He’s supposed to be one of their brightest.

    Could be … but then again the bar ain’t set too high!

  97. Caveman

    I put hand sanitiser on my toilet paper, now I have the best of both worlds.

  98. Mitch M.

    A cruiser like submarine with an aircraft as well.

  99. Howard Hill

    ‘If I do get the Coronavirus I’m attending every MAGA rally I can’ – Denver Communist Official Says She Will Use Deadly Virus as Bio Weapon Against Trump Supporters

    This woman should be charged and constrained now.

    What if she said she was going to Canberra to give it back to those that brought in in the first place?

    I reckon it would be poetic justice doncha ya think?

  100. JC

    I listened to an interesting podcast today, which the host put up an unlikely possibility,.. again he said it’s nowhere near being probable… but it is still worth considering.

    The argument goes like this.
    1.People who have caught the corona can also be reinfected. This is not supposed to occur with the flu.
    2. Antivirals are proving to be disappointing while, surprisingly, some antibiotics have worked. Antibiotics are not supposed to work against a virus attack. I discount this element to some extent because antibiotics don’t go after the virus but the infections they cause, however I don’t know enough about this part to suggest if my counter is true to the improbable backstory.
    3. Kids are not being infected and only seems to infects grown ups. This is supposed to have occurred with the Spanish flu.

    The argument is this … Both the Spanish flu and Corona are not flu/virus infections. They are are type of tuberculosis.

    Again, discount the probability, but it’s worth some investigation.

  101. Infidel Tiger

    JC are you hording quince paste?

  102. Helen

    OMG that was a huuuge link should have tinied it, sorry.

  103. JC

    Infidel Tiger
    #3343209, posted on March 4, 2020 at 5:22 pm

    JC are you hording quince paste?

    Artie, no. I have no idea quince paste even exists. Why do you keep asking?

    Go on, hit me with it. The jaw is just there, outstretched, in front of you.

  104. cohenite

    This paul fletcher sack of mush is going to cave to their abc’s demand for more funds due to global bushfires. Kenny commendably eviscerating fletcher who like and speaks like the archetypal CINO. Kenny describes the abc’s demand for extra funding as a combination of opportunism and climate alarmism.

  105. JC

    If Fletcher was smart, he’d take the ABC’s word that the funding is necessary and ask them to reallocate from the existing budget or the government would do it for them with legislation…. being so important and all.

  106. notafan

    both St Francisco and St Jacinta of Fatima died as young children of Spanish influenza

    Spanish flu mortality rates

  107. Top Ender

    People bagging the next RAN submarine class are reminded that there is competition for the most disastrous submarine class ever….

    The world’s worst submarine – the K Boat

    by Top Ender

    The very concept now seems appalling, to anyone who knows even a little of modern submarines,. A steam-driven submarine, just like a steam train? Not only that, but with its own aircraft. It would have the dimensions, in terms of length and tonnage, of a destroyer. And it would have a 12-inch gun, just to round things out.

    Could such a creature ever succeed?

    It’s easy, of course, to laugh at such ideas today. But back in World War I, there were no closed books on submarine design.

    The new submerged face of war had been quickly proven in WWI. As U-Boat Net tells us:

    On 5th September 1914, the underestimated U-boat was finally able to show its deadly potential and draw first blood. With the first live torpedo fired by a submarine in wartime, Kapitänleutnant Otto Hersing from U-21 hit the British light cruiser HMS Pathfinder (3,000 tons) off the Firth of Forth on a calm, sunlit day. The cruiser sank within minutes with heavy loss of life. Hersing, who was to become one of Germany’s leading U-boat aces, remained in command of U-21 for 3 years and conducted 21 war patrols, during which he sank 36 ships, including two battleships and two cruisers.

    This was surpassed on 22nd September 1914, when U-9 (Kapitänleutnant Otto Weddigen) sank the three cruisers HMS Aboukir, Hogue and Cressy (12,000 tons each) off the Hook of Holland in 75 minutes, with the loss of 1,460 British sailors.

    The submarine was certainly proved, but the new boats were dangerous in themselves. Submariners endured terrible living conditions, going weeks without washing, eating canned food with little respite, and enduring in combat foul air, boats with leaks, and the efforts of surface ships to kill them. Most submarines could only dive to a depth of around 50 metres, which limited their abilities to hide and escape.

    The Great War was teaching designers and naval authorities and fighting sailors just one thing – the very concept of a submarine was workable. But there was avid discussion on armament, propulsion, length and breadth. Out of all of this various strange designs emerged, were built, trialed, found out to be a disaster – and disappeared into the history books.

    Suitably, the K class of the Royal Navy was born in clouds of steam when they motored along on the surface, emitting clouds of vapour. They were designed mid-war to have a high speed to enable them to keep up with the surface fleet, a reflection on the ideas of how submarines should be used at the time. To enable this high speed, twin oil-fired steam turbines were fitted to a hull of 1, 980 (Imperial) tons displacement and 339 feet (103m) in length. Two propellers drove the boat, and armament was designed mainly around the onboard guns: two 4 inch (100mm) guns, and one 3 inch (80mm). Torpedoes were fitted, with four bow tubes and four beam tubes – these latter designed to fire sideways, a fairly common idea at the time. A pair of tubes on a swivel were also mounted on the superstructure but removed when first trials did not prove the idea.

    The tactics of the boats were to be, according to one enthusiast:

    “In the battle formation of the Grand Fleet, during the war, the “K” boats were stationed 10 miles ahead of the main battle squadrons with various light forces spread out ahead of them to a distance of about 25 miles.”

    and

    “On the screening forces sighting the enemy and reporting by W/T the captain (S) had to manoeuvre to place his flotilla ahead of the probable course of the enemy battle fleet, and, if possible, slightly on the side furthest from our own heavy ships.”

    The enthusiast’s article, if read in full, makes it clear that the concept of the K submarine was to act more as a surface vessel – which could occasionally hide underwater – than a true submarine.

    Designed in 1913, 21 boats were ordered for the RN, but 17 built, the last four converted to the new M class, which would be powered by diesels and mount a 12” gun, primarily for use as a “merchant ship destroyer.”

    The submarines, once built, in reality were beset with problems. As might be expected, the problem of the oil-fired boilers needing their air intakes shut off for diving was complemented by the need for the funnels, venting the steam, to be also so guarded. Our practitioner noted: “It is quite usual for stokers to go on watch in the boiler-room wearing oilskins, sou’westers and sea boots.”

    Further, the K series took around five minutes to dive by the time all of the boat’s intakes and exhausts were shut off. “Crash-diving” in a hurry it was not, and this slow ability in diving could prove fatal in giving pursuers plenty of time to continue their attack with the submarine in plain view.

    Next, the boat was designed to dive only to 200 feet, and this was a problem. Given the immense vessel length, even a small variation of angle could see the bow almost on the surface while the stern was near the maximum depth, or vice-versa.

    In war use, the class was spectacularly unsuccessful. Beset with problems, they compounded the design faults with a series of floodings, sinkings and accidents. Only one engaged an enemy vessel, hitting a U-boat with a torpedo which failed to explode.

    Post-war the class paid off, except for K-26, an improved version with a better dive time, maximum depth, sea-keeping abilities, and some improvements in propulsion. She was scrapped in 1931, because of submarine limitations imposed by the London Naval Treaty of 1930 – the irony being that if submarines were a threat K-26 was a poor one.

    Strangely enough, steam can now be said to be the power behind some of the world’s most successful submarines. The nuclear-powered boats of the 1950s, led by Nautilus, the world’s first nuclear submarine, had a reactor which powered steam turbines, which in turn drove their propellers.

  108. JC

    Origins of the name, Spanish flu. Here I was thinking the Spanish introduced it.

    In the spring of 1918, just as the man-made horrors of World War I were finally starting to wind down, Mother Nature unleashed the deadliest strain of influenza in modern history. The virus infected as much as 40 percent of the global population over the next 18 months. Of these, an estimated 20 to 50 million perished—more than the roughly 17 million people killed during World War I. The pandemic’s grasp stretched from the United States and Europe to the remote reaches of Greenland and the Pacific islands. Its victims included the likes of President Woodrow Wilson, who contracted it while negotiating the Treaty of Versailles in early 1919.

    As the pandemic reached epic proportions in the fall of 1918, it became commonly known as the “Spanish Flu” or the “Spanish Lady” in the United States and Europe. Many assumed this was because the sickness had originated on the Iberian Peninsula, but the nickname was actually the result of a widespread misunderstanding. Spain was one of only a few major European countries to remain neutral during World War I. Unlike in the Allied and Central Powers nations, where wartime censors suppressed news of the flu to avoid affecting morale, the Spanish media was free to report on it in gory detail. News of the sickness first made headlines in Madrid in late-May 1918, and coverage only increased after the Spanish King Alfonso XIII came down with a nasty case a week later. Since nations undergoing a media blackout could only read in depth accounts from Spanish news sources, they naturally assumed that the country was the pandemic’s ground zero. The Spanish, meanwhile, believed the virus had spread to them from France, so they took to calling it the “French Flu.”

  109. calli

    Helen
    #3343210, posted on March 4, 2020 at 5:22 pm
    look – a warehouse full!

    Those pallets will be tracked. The truckies paid Danger Money. Maybe even armed.

    We’re looking at bogroll economics here. Underestimate it at your peril.

  110. Twostix

    So open borders liberalism has resulted in empty shelves, a disenfranchised populace, global pandemics and increasingly authoritarian governments threating us to not say too much in order to keep the elitist obviously failed ideology running.

    Hmmmmm!

    Sounds familiar!

  111. calli

    Google the origin of Spanish flu and an interesting hypothesis comes up. History.com no less.

    Looks like we’ve been here before.

  112. cohenite

    Some Hollywood actors are supporting Bernie while others are supporting biden; and all of them have their heads up their arses:

    https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2020/03/03/super-tuesday-hollywood-stars-champion-sanders-as-biden-gains-steam/

  113. JC

    Oh Lord, a dunny paper fight. Bern and I stocked up about 3 weeks ago. I’m now a seller. 🙂

    Shopper ‘pulls out a KNIFE’ during fight over toilet paper at a Westfield Woolworths as the aisle is taped off – and a stampede breaks out at another store amid coronavirus fears

  114. Tel

    We’re looking at bogroll economics here. Underestimate it at your peril.

    Worst comes to the worst you can always pull some AUD $10 notes out of the ATM … given as how the RBA is trying so hard to turn them in dunny paper.

    Glad I did my prepping when we were told there was nothing to worry about … that’s about the place when it always goes wrong in the movies.

  115. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger
    #3343209, posted on March 4, 2020 at 5:22 pm
    JC are you hording quince paste?

    No.
    But he has got a whole carton of Fabulon extra-strength ironing aid.

  116. cohenite

    The crew stocking up on dunny paper and other essentials all look like Asians, RoP and general fat slobs.

  117. JC

    Cronkite, she needs to get a decent set of specks. They don’t work for her. In fact, the specs supply is really shit awful in Austrtalia. The only place to go is Robert Marc in NYC near 79th street and Madison. As you know everyone, or claim to, can you make that suggestion on my behalf? Incidentally, that address is 150 yards away from Mini Mike’s palace… Palazzo Bloombox.

  118. calli

    that’s about the place when it always goes wrong in the movies.

    Which reminds me. “Contagion” is trending as a download atm. That’s about a Chinese bat that drops a bit of banana and a pig eats it. And the rest is history.

    Except for Matt Damon. He appears to be invincible.

  119. JC

    Leigh Lowe
    #3343235, posted on March 4, 2020 at 5:45 pm

    Infidel Tiger
    #3343209, posted on March 4, 2020 at 5:22 pm
    JC are you hording quince paste?

    No.
    But he has got a whole carton of Fabulon extra-strength ironing aid.

    Seriously, I don;’t get his new found obsession with quince paste. Like WTF?

  120. Seriously, I don;’t get his new found obsession with quince paste. Like WTF?

    I blame transgender activists.

  121. JC

    This prick needs a decent fucking hiding and immediate deportation if he makes it through alive.

    A man with coronavirus spent 15 minutes in a Tasmanian supermarket after being asked to self-quarantine, forcing authorities to review help for people entering self-isolation.

    It is understood a 40-year-old man recently arrived from Iran was tested over the weekend and advised to self-quarantine while awaiting the result, which came back as positive on Monday.

    On Sunday night, however, apparently to stock up for his isolation, he visited a Launceston Woolworths.

  122. lotocoti

    I put hand sanitiser on my toilet paper, now I have the best of both worlds.

    Use a toilet brush.
    You can do under your nails at the same time.

  123. Roger

    Some Hollywood actors are supporting Bernie

    Do they not realise that they are “the rich” whose wealth he has promised to confiscate?

    ‘Actors are generally stupid people.’

    Anthony Hopkins

  124. Twostix

    Empty shelves and at the mercy of the establishment who is in the process of banning cash and importing millions of third world people to ensure it is protected from the will of the Australian people.

    At least we have 100000 wutang coronaclan chinese people clogging up our 10 universities.

    What a deal this liberalism thing has been!

  125. JC

    What do you even use quince paste for anyway?

  126. Geriatric Mayfly

    Mass bottom cleaning. They are obviously out of bog rolls too, and the essential oils from crushed violet leaves.

    Security forces deployed drones and water cannons across Iran on Tuesday in a bid to contain the coronavirus, a sign of the severity of the country’s outbreak.

  127. calli

    Blue cheese, JC. On a neutral flavoured cracker.

    Stock up. It’s the next item on the bogroll economics run.

  128. rickw

    Origins of the name, Spanish flu. Here I was thinking the Spanish introduced it.

    Someone posted a link a couple of weeks ago indicating that the true origin was bat country. Brought to Europe by them while working as sojourners in military logistics support.

  129. cohenite

    She needs to get a decent set of specks. They don’t work for her. In fact, the specs supply is really shit awful in Austrtalia.

    Drop her a line head prefect; and pick up your spelling; she looks a stickler for detail.

  130. JC

    Oh yea, I know quince paste. It’s not a paste as such it resembles Turkish delight in appearance/touch used as a spread on crackers. Wifey has used it in cheese platters. Frankly, I’m not fond of it, Calli. Sweet crap with crackers just doesn’t work right for me.

  131. JC

    Specs was auto-corrected and didn’t see it because I never proof read my posts… WTF on a blog. And STFU.

  132. Gab

    There’s a run on toilet paper at the IGA now.
    Pun intended.

  133. cohenite

    The beer virus continuing to expand in Aussieland, latest being in an aged care home. All of this is imported, mainly by Iranians and chunks.

  134. Twostix

    There will come a time shortly where the fraudulent term “liberal democracy” will be met with the same sneer as “social democracy”.

    A failed fraud of an ideology.

    We’ll just have our old fashioned, plain jane representative democracy back thanks.

  135. cohenite

    Just saying head prefect; and you misspelt Austrtalia. If you don’t maintain standards who will. You won’t impress Ms Oriel slap-dashing; and if you do meet her make sure you’ve got a crease in your chinos.

  136. On Sunday night, however, apparently to stock up for his isolation, he visited a Launceston Woolworths.

    He’s never heard of online shopping?

  137. Oh yea, I know quince paste.

    I had it once on a flight as a snack with a soft cheese and water crackers, mildly sweet but very bland

  138. JC

    All of this is imported, mainly by Iranians and chunks.

    Yea, like I can see Daryl Smith or Darlene Hemp ( she’s got tatts) jumping for joy at the opportunity to work in a nursing home cleaning up oldster shit and thereby getting off Centrelink.

    Post a comment when that’s the case, cronkite.

    ——-

    On a serious note, we advertised a job for the family buz this week. Out of the names we called there were 6 with euro sounding names. 5 of them… absolute scumbags agreed to an interview at an appointed time and were no shows. I’ve been told Centrelink rats do this as a pretext by showing the “Link” they’re very busy applying for jobs. We hired a frog with papers.

    Yes, let’s remind ourselves to hire real Astrayans because they’re fiercely hard workers.

  139. What do you even use quince paste for anyway?

    If you run out of grease for a D12 Dozer there is nothing better.

  140. calli

    There is another aspect to the run on various items. Twostix touches on it, and it was confirmed by a shopper I met this morning at my regional Woolies.

    Aussies have the sh*ts with people they see as interlopers on our once hard-earned economy and standard of living. And the thinking is very primal – why should I let them horn in on this stuff? I’ll make sure I get my share too. Bugger ‘em!

    I suspect we’ll see a bit more of this as the virus works its way to its sooner or later end. That a knife was drawn in Parramatta does not surprise me at all. We are dealing with primitive stuff here.

  141. cohenite

    What a strange comment head prefect, even by your standards: the source location of imported beer virus carriers is mainly iran and chunkland. WTF has that got to do with local ferals not wanting to wipe your arse in 5 years when you go into care.

  142. Mark A

    Want to see a real ugly car?
    It’s a Fiat.

  143. JC

    WTF has that got to do with local ferals not wanting to wipe your arse in 5 years when you go into care.

    I see, your lateral scope of thought is… how shall I say.. limited. I’m here to help.

    The point is, doofus, that it is true there are jobs Astryans won’t do and cleaning shit in a nursing home is one example.

  144. cohenite

    The point is, doofus, that it is true there are jobs Astryans won’t do and cleaning shit in a nursing home is one example.

    I’m calling crap on that comment head prefect; and learn to fucking spell.

  145. calli

    Good grief. She’s supposedly proud of being a POC but resents it when asked about her heritage.

    Darlin’, who cares? The people who ask you are trying to, ahem, get to know you. As in “what do you do?”, “where do you live?” etc. They are being kind and polite.

    Just give any stranger you meet a list of approved questions. It will save time and heartache.

  146. Nick

    Mark A, I call that car the ‘Spina bifida’ car.

  147. JC

    I’m calling crap on that comment head prefect; and learn to fucking spell.

    You can call crap on any comment you want. And no, STFU.

  148. Dave in Marybrook

    Quince paste-
    don’t overcook it. Eat with soft cheese, not hard. It’s genuine robust’n’tasty settler fare.
    Rub the fuzz off with a bannister brush- leave the skin on. Hack cheeks off the core with a cleaver.
    Use a bay leaf to every two quinces, and a lemon to every 4, half the quince weight again in white sugar, barely cover with water in the bottom of the biggest stock pot that you can get- stock rules, should be full only 1/3 capacity.
    Don’t overcook it. As sson as it’s red, pull it off the heat, cool a bit and mash it up (or stab mixer), lay out flat ina baking tray. Potato starch paper makes a good edible liner.
    Don’t overcook it. It’ll firm up as it dehydrates.
    Once, in France restaurant, we used a two-stroke garden mulcher, pressure cookers and pushed the trays out onto the roof in daytime.
    Spagnolas call it “membrillo”.
    Eat it with soft cheese. The Spanish school lunchbox is malty bread, mozzarella and a slab of membrillo between.
    It’s probably the reason for all the podgy youth unemployment in Spain.

  149. Tel

    Want to see a real ugly car?
    It’s a Fiat.

    I would buy it if the top pod could sprout legs and climb out of the wheeled base, or even if it became a submarine.

  150. calli

    Once upon a time you could buy quince in any supermarket or greengrocer. Cooking is a breeze – time, lemon zest, cinnamon quill, water and sugar. An amazing pink colour and it tastes wonderful.

    Or you could use them as a doorstop.

  151. Fat Tony

    If the high level Iranians got the WZV from visiting the Wuhan Biological war facility and it has spread from there through China as well, it proves there is a God.

    Emperor Xi would have been planning to release it in the West.
    There is also the chance that Xi, a typical communist, is not averse to greatly reducing the population of China – one billion lives? Just a statistic.
    And it would make controlling those left easier – as well as giving them more living room…

  152. Fat Tony

    calli
    #3343279, posted on March 4, 2020 at 6:31 pm

    When i was a kid, my favourite jam was quince. Haven’t seen it for yonks.

  153. Jessie

    Yes I understand this cohenite @3.53

    However the genetic research has been avail for eg Machado Joseph disease – Japanese publishing in 1993 when the indig industry was bleating that the clinical symptoms were due to manganese poisoning from mining (narrative fitting).
    2012 Mutational Origin of Machado-Joseph Disease in the Australian Aboriginal Communities of Groote Eylandt and Yirrkala

    Surely it is control of selection and data by an industry, and now 3+ generations that have suffered dreadfully under this same industry of voices eg bio-colonialists Marcia et al. And the media who do not fact check on her DNA commentary in this instance.

    https://theconversation.com/au/topics/factcheck-qanda-6550
    RMIT course:-
    https://www.rmit.edu.au/study-with-us/levels-of-study/short-courses/fact-check

    https://ifcncodeofprinciples.poynter.org/know-more

  154. rickw

    The point is, doofus, that it is true there are jobs Astryans won’t do and cleaning shit in a nursing home is one example.

    Dole payments ramping down over time would fix this pretty promptly.

  155. calli

    I see this virus as the harbinger of that suburban plot stalwart – the choko.

  156. rickw

    Quince paste-
    don’t overcook it. Eat with soft cheese, not hard. It’s genuine robust’n’tasty settler fare.

    Yep, it’s excellent! Quince jam and paste was a staple when I was a kid, huge quince tree in the yard.

  157. Farmer Gez

    Quince paste. Might give it a go.
    Quinces are dead easy to grow and our tree out the back is loaded at the moment.

  158. Dave in Marybrook

    I’ve probably got half a tonne of quinces coming on…
    working with a winemaker to make an enzyme to do half of the cooking work, then ferment.
    Watch this space.

  159. calli

    Lol. I can do a swap with some genuine Seville oranges. Mmmm…marmalade.

    Soon we’ll be actually mending stuff.

    #bogrolleconomy

  160. Roger

    We’ll just have our old fashioned, plain jane representative democracy back thanks.

    And compel our representatives to spend x amount of time meeting with and listening to their constituents on an individual basis, as they do in the UK.

    Not a panacea, but a start.

  161. Struth

    Aussies have the sh*ts with people they see as interlopers on our once hard-earned economy and standard of living. And the thinking is very primal – why should I let them horn in on this stuff? I’ll make sure I get my share too. Bugger ‘em!

    As I said upthread.

    We all know what living with the Chinese is like.
    They decide to do a run on crap wrap and you gotta get in quick.
    The panic buying is only in heavily ch I n k infested areas.
    Perfectly reasonable reaction to those who’ve seen the pricks in action, with baby formula and the like.

  162. Helen

    Did we miss the condom market?

    Oh noes! Too late now.

    CONDOMS MAY BE THE NEXT PANIC BUY – AS MUMS SHOW OFF THEIR STOCKPILES

    a social media post encouraged people to use condoms to protect their fingers against the virus.

    what is wrong with using disposable gloves? You could cut the fingers off and get five uses for the price of one.

  163. cohenite

    The BoM forecast for January – March was hot and dry; we had the opposite; bastards:

    https://www.facebook.com/dallas.beaufort.71/posts/207129334001343

  164. Struth

    How much did it cost us for Corman’s racist attack on white cars?
    What a POS

  165. kaysee

    calli
    #3342598, posted on March 4, 2020 at 6:58 am

    I got 11, Arky. I told the truth where possible, but some of the questions had inbuilt assumptions that were wrong.

    I think it’s a pretty awfulness test. Mostly it’s an introvert/extravert thing.

    Yep. I came up a 12. And even though I’m off the scale on introversion there are other factors that counter that.

    A better picture of introversion and other factors.

  166. Roger

    We all know what living with the Chinese is like.

    Well, I’ve learnt this on my travels:

    Never get in the way of a Chinese* tour group and a buffet at a fancy hotel.

    * Used as a synecdoche for Chinese nationals.

    I find the others relatively civilised.

  167. Nick

    Yeah, nothing says colonial Australia more than a white car. Lol.

  168. Nick

    Roger, seafood and watermelon being the two favs.
    I still laugh at a Chinese buffet plate of meat, gravy, seafood and chocolate cake. All on the same plate.

  169. Roger

    I still laugh at a Chinese buffet plate of meat, gravy, seafood and chocolate cake. All on the same plate.

    Yeah, I’ve seen similar, Nick.

  170. NoFixedAddress

    JB of Sydney/Shanghai
    #3342915, posted on March 4, 2020 at 12:27 pm

    No Fixed Address….Happy to have you on board as a Franchise holder for “”Flying Fox Toilet” paper! The product is environmentally friendly, produces only modest amounts of C02, is fun for the whole family to use and is, of course, biodegradable.
    The basic concept is to use free range Fruit Bats, as a replacement for toilet paper. After the furry beast is used to “shine up the date” it is given a quick rinse, a couple of grapes or other fruit, and it will fly off to a nearby tree and dry in the sun. Knuckle Dragger failed to grasp the concept, and spoke about cooking and eating the beast. Clearly he is not much of a lateral thinker, such as yourself.

    my people will talk with your people.

    now, about the nuclear dog franchise

    i think we can get gunner to deliver the paperwork in his rainbow colored dplrbl com car.

    after all communist government work must be seen to be appreciated

    don’t mind knuckles. he’s already scheduled for rum jungle.

  171. Roger

    The BoM forecast for January – March was hot and dry; we had the opposite; bastards

    Which is why some farmers pay for independent forecasts.

    Privatise it.

  172. Fat Tony

    NoFixedAddress
    #3343303, posted on March 4, 2020 at 7:01 pm

    I know you probably have this covered, but is your “Flying Fox” Toilet Paper de-fanged and de-clawed.
    It would be important for repeat sales.

  173. Nob

    Roger
    #3343306, posted on March 4, 2020 at 7:06 pm
    The BoM forecast for January – March was hot and dry; we had the opposite; bastards

    Which is why some farmers pay for independent forecasts

    Some farmers – and ALL offshore rig operators and big shipping companies.

    Mainly for the detail.

  174. NoFixedAddress

    you know the end times are upon us when the catallaxyfiles starts to discuss QUINCES

    why not paint and make official government policy that communist ‘public’ “servants” must travel in QUINCE or RHUBARB colored EV conveyances.

  175. Some History

    Has anyone considered that Bornie Sadners might be a F.A.G.* plant… a “FAGurian candidate”?

    * Film Actors Guild

  176. Roger

    Some farmers – and ALL offshore rig operators and big shipping companies.

    Mainly for the detail.

    If you’re paying for it you certainly won’t tolerate warmist inspired crap forecasts and medium term outlooks.

    Privatise the BOM.

  177. calli

    What to do? All my kids in Sydney have been “caught short” (lol) by the toilet paper panic buying. Not a square to spare.

    Do I go to Woolies at 7am and buy up, thus increasing the shortage, or do I let them fend for themselves?

    This is where we’re at in Australia, 2020. And I’m looking around for some halfwit to catch in the crosshairs. Unless it’s me. For voting for the buggers and remaining silent for waaay too long.

  178. Farmer Gez

    The glove thing is interesting.
    When a smart pair of gloves were in fashion was there less hand to face transmission of flu?

  179. Ed Case

    How the State Department medically evacuated 1174 Corona-chan victims from wuhan and diamond princess back to the US and Trump couldn’t stop them.
    https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/03/obama-holdover-obscure-government-arm-helped-cause-daniel-greenfield/?fbclid=IwAR1k5FF1wlUMsmhXzWxvp-JiJzipMaRcc_tiYYpAdVzUHGKxLVZYZIOtT1o

  180. DrBeauGan

    A better picture of introversion and other factors.

    I got around 50% on everything except the last where I got 75%. I’m not particularly introvert, although I do spend a lot of time thinking. It’s my hobby.

    I’m not much impressed by these tests and please don’t put up more of them. I’m not interested in the results and don’t much trust them. I think they are designed for self-absorbed women, and I didn’t qualify on either.

  181. Roger

    What to do? All my kids in Sydney have been “caught short” (lol) by the toilet paper panic buying. Not a square to spare.

    I’m sure the gummint is “innovating a solution”, calli. Rationing, perhaps?

    I’m equally sure parliamentary services has bought up every roll they could find.

    China’s isn’t the only government that is going to feel its people’s wrath during the course of this pandemic.

  182. Arky

    self-absorbed women,

    ..
    Don’t knock self absorbed women.
    They will remain unaffected by toilet paper shortages.

  183. miltonf

    Democrat presidential hopeful and former Vice President Joe Biden (D) vowed to find cures for cancer, diabetes, and Alzheimer’s disease during his Super Tuesday speech in Los Angeles, California.

    Oh Lawd.

  184. Bruce of Newcastle

    Democrat presidential hopeful and former Vice President Joe Biden (D) vowed to find cures for cancer, diabetes, and Alzheimer’s disease

    He better get moving on that last one.

  185. I’m going in, so is Mrs TE, and so is the cat. We reckon 12 a day for the next week should cover it.

    The cat is manning the stall at the front of our place, selling rolls at $2.5 a pop. He’s moaned a bit, but if he wants a tin of sardines a day he can just get on with it.
    Reposting this from earlier because funny.
    Real LOLs. I’d give the bloody cat a fiver and a scratch under the ear.
    Straya
    Thanks TE!

  186. Nick

    Calli, I’m sure you can suggest an appropriate arboreal substitute.

  187. Roger

    Democrat presidential hopeful and former Vice President Joe Biden (D) vowed to find cures for cancer, diabetes, and Alzheimer’s disease during his Super Tuesday speech in Los Angeles, California.

    Californian Democrats didn’t buy it either, even given his vested interest in an Alzheimer’s cure.

  188. miltonf

    True. Surprises me how anyone could support that old creep.

  189. Oh Lawd.

    Seriously, they can’t run this bloke.
    The Box is now huge odds.
    Bernie will be stopped, the dead vote as they’re pointed.

    Hillbot shorter than The Box to be be Present in some markets.
    Although, Trump rolling with Corn Pops MAGA hat wearing granddaughters to the second Presidential Debate would be fkn epic…

  190. calli

    DrBeau, my view is that we are all unique. Categorising by personality type is an easy way for us to work out why we are the way we are. Because that is what we do.

    Strong introversion (like me) can be tempered by an interest in others. I like to know what other people think and why they think that way. And never discount humour, because we’re all rather ridiculous.

    At work, it paid off. I could go to a consultation, work out exactly what a client wanted and turn it into a plan that they liked. And one that could be built.

    I hope that doesn’t make me a self-absorbed woman. In my experience, most people are self-absorbed, but they just don’t know it.

  191. Ed Case

    Some History at 7:15 pm

    Has anyone considered that Bornie Sadners might be a F.A.G.* plant…

    Some say Sanders candidacies are a get rich scheme. Hes been in office somewhere or other for 45 years.He got into the senate in 2006 and 2016 and 2020 were his opportunities to cash in since 2012 and 2018 were his reelection years. Could also be a stalking horse for hilary clinton if he can stop Biden winning on the first ballot at the convention/

  192. All this toilet paper palava, hilarious, but if serious just get out your copy of Dark Emu again and see how the crew did it BITD.
    No worries.

  193. pete m

    Nephew update
    Sorry been a while but finally caught up with my brother.
    My nephew has near full use of his arm again!
    It took 6 months or so for nerves to stop playing up and he has worked hard to get back to normal strength and ability.
    Thanks for prayers and kind wishes so very happy now.
    He has just turned 10 and doing well.

    Good to see democrats will have a tough convention bet there is violence.

  194. Helen

    The glove thing is interesting.
    When a smart pair of gloves were in fashion was there less hand to face transmission of flu?

    The Queen wore gloves for the first time ever for investitures – apparently.

  195. miltonf

    Well didn’t they pay off Commo Sanders with a big house in ’16.

  196. The CFMEU facilities are groaning under bogrolls on the dodgy shelf above head height.
    We’d lynch the Peggy if we had no shit tickets!
    #1%lyfe
    I can liberate what I need if needed.
    But I don’t need much?
    Sucked in, rich proles!

  197. calli

    Nick. Brachyglottis repanda.

    x Arky will know it. It doesn’t seem to like anywhere much north of Melbourne. I know, because I tried to grow it as an experiment.

  198. miltonf

    I’m sort of wondering what Clinton’s up to as she’s not the type to go away.

  199. NoFixedAddress

    Fat Tony
    #3343307, posted on March 4, 2020 at 7:10 pm

    NoFixedAddress
    #3343303, posted on March 4, 2020 at 7:01 pm

    I know you probably have this covered, but is your “Flying Fox” Toilet Paper de-fanged and de-clawed.
    It would be important for repeat sales.

    Fat Tony

    at the moment my people are in delicate talks with JB from Sydneye/Shangeye people so i’m not at liberty to correspond with you regarding your quereye.

    however, if you are interested in one of our latest deals i think you will find our quince colored range of uranium dog powered ‘commonwealth’ (and he laughed and laughed and laughed) airplanes, trains and bicycles and buses very interesting.

    they all come with the green huweye symbol for your security.

    just remember the revered slogan:-

  200. Mark A

    calli
    #3343334, posted on March 4, 2020 at 7:37 pm

    Calli, you can get a type of quince that you can eat as an apple, juicy and crisp with a nice fragrance, none of that floury/sandy hard texture one associates with the ordinary quince.

    Not sure if they are available in OZ but.

  201. Premium Content said it earlier,
    “Bernie Bros gonna smash shit up”
    And Da Fonz don’t run Milwaukee anymore, yo!
    It’s gonna be epic.
    Antifa burning down the DNC.
    Can the god Emperor hold his fire and not interrupt his enemy while mistaking?
    Lol, no.
    Go, you Magnificent Bastard!
    SunTszu ID a bat botherer after all.
    Fk the xunt
    #MAGA

  202. Bruce of Newcastle

    Wonderful to hear Pete!
    Hope the doc has forgiven him or her self.

  203. Some History

    Democrat presidential hopeful and former Vice President Joe Biden (D) vowed to find cures for cancer, diabetes, and Alzheimer’s disease during his Super Tuesday speech in Los Angeles, California.

    How could he possibly find cures to all those diseases during a speech??

  204. Farmer Gez

    BoM said yesterday that the far western border of Vic wouldn’t see much rain if any.
    7mm so far at Nhill and the radar shows rain streaming down on top of them. Accuracy you can take to the bank!

  205. Exact result says 45 to beat up The Box/Hillbot 3.0, both 29/1
    Don’t make me have to swallow a Trump beats Biden insurance bet.
    And my money on something with Hillary on it?
    Fk, xunt, no. Just no!
    Markets are hard 😯

  206. NoFixedAddress

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #3343349, posted on March 4, 2020 at 7:46 pm

    Wonderful to hear Pete!
    Hope the doc has forgiven him or her self.

    +++

  207. notafan

    Calli ‘buy up’ as you actually need it.

    I’ve habitually always had a lot on hand, a thirty odd year habit so not in the market atm.

    I did buy a bunch of John west sardine and tuna cans last week.

    Half price and Lent combo reason though.

  208. And two of my lady pub gals were rolling little 50g Dettol bottles in they bags.
    At the pub.
    Hysteria is hilarious.
    Toilet paper? Lol

  209. Infidel Tiger

    Ryan James Girdusky
    @RyanGirdusky
    Trump 2020 vs. Obama 2012 primary results:

    NH: 129,696 / 49,080
    OK: 273,562 / 64,389
    MA: 207,495 / 127,909
    TN: 324,119 / 80,705
    VT: 33,863 / 40,247
    AL: 690,381 / 241,167
    TX: 1,584,661 / 520,410 (w/ 66% in)
    NC: 704,328 / 766,077 (w/ 69% in)

    #SuperTuesday
    2:03 PM · Mar 4, 2020

    Don’t know if it means much, but it is definitely not a bad sign.

  210. A guy on tape molesting young(and old, to be fair) girls/women…. literally, on tape!….is going to go against the god Emperor?
    All right, I’m calling it.
    Trump is my “Lock of the Year”
    Invest appropriate

  211. kaysee

    I’m not much impressed by these tests and please don’t put up more of them.

    No one is forced to click open links that are posted. This test is not some gimmick to get attention. Tests like this one have been used as part of the recruiting process, to check if an applicant has the right profile for the job.
     

  212. Tiger, seriously, Monty assured us that Texas was going Blue not long ago?
    You’re better than that.
    😃

  213. Snoopy

    calli
    #3343271, posted on March 4, 2020 at 6:24 pm
    Good grief. She’s supposedly proud of being a POC but resents it when asked about her heritage.

    Finn X Malay. No wonder she’s a lunatic.

  214. 8th Dan

    What to do? All my kids in Sydney have been “caught short” (lol) by the toilet paper panic buying. Not a square to spare.

    Do I go to Woolies at 7am and buy up

    Open till 10.00pm … go now. Do a delivery run down the M1 in the morning.

  215. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    I’m well stocked of toilet paper and looking to sell some at $899 a single roll. 🙂

    I’m down to 45 rolls, but I’ll let one go at $799

  216. Good to see democrats will have a tough convention bet there is violence.

    Arma, a book on under/over police cruisers torched, please?
    Even $$ would be fair around 100 I reckon?

  217. Infidel Tiger

    Tiger, seriously, Monty assured us that Texas was going Blue not long ago?
    You’re better than that.
    😃

    If Californians keep coming it won’t be long.

    Look what happened to Virginia. Once a deep red state, now filled to bursting with pubes and Beltway filth.

    Dallas, Austin and Houston are already Dem territory.

  218. calli

    Kaysee, I’ve done a few of those tests because of my job many…many years ago. And they are useful.

    You can make a pretty good guess at my MBTI profile. 🙂

  219. You’re such a pessimist.
    When Trump splits the Dems open? Hahaha
    AltRight supermajority for decades.
    Phew,lads, this is what Winning Feels Like!
    What Would Pepe Say?
    🤗
    Go short bowties and pink hair dye.

  220. Infidel Tiger

    Melbourne was once Australia’s most conservative city.

    Home of the blue bloods.

    Now it is an open latrine of socialist filth thanks to the wonders of immigration and education.

  221. Mitch M.

    kaysee
    #3343363, posted on March 4, 2020 at 7:56 pm
    I’m not much impressed by these tests and please don’t put up more of them.

    No one is forced to click open links that are posted. This test is not some gimmick to get attention. Tests like this one have been used as part of the recruiting process, to check if an applicant has the right profile for the job.

    The only truly validated personality profile test is OCEAN. I won’t go near any of them including OCEAN. I can’t see the point in individuals doing a test that measures their behavior by comparing it against some group average. It’s a self report test. Ha!

    That ASD test people here are referencing. If it is the Baron Cohen test forget it.Waste of time. BC even argued that ASD is an “excessively male brain”. More importantly ASD is not just about cognition and general behavior, there are important other issues to consider like gastro issues, insomnia, food sensitivities, stimming, ADD, depression, anxiety, stimming. It’s a very mixed bag.

  222. miltonf

    Yeah the wal born of Malbourne

  223. miltonf

    I’m hoping Trump’s going to pick up a big chunk of Black votes. He certainly deserves to.

  224. DrBeauGan

    I hope that doesn’t make me a self-absorbed woman. In my experience, most people are self-absorbed, but they just don’t know it.

    No, but it’s a characteristic of some others here, not mentioning any names.

    I’m fascinated by the world. All of it, including the human beans in it. I spent months in adolescence introspecting, studying myself, trying to figure out what kind of person I was, and by dint of massive cerebration I eventually figured it out.

    I was a self-absorbed creep.

    I concluded that it wasn’t a whole lot of fun so gave it up. Since then, I’ve got much more fun by looking at the universe and the weird things in it.

    I don’t see how that’s compatible with being an introvert. I was while doing all that introspection, but I gave that up. At the same time, I don’t need other people to cheer me up and usually get bored at parties. So I’m not an extravert either.

    This post is as close as I’ve got to self-absorption in a long, long time, and must be as boring for the rest of you as it is for me, so I’ll stop.

  225. Caveman

    I was told the servo at Waverley opp Bunnings had a pallet load of dunny paper outside , along with assorted veges. I guess no one really looks for the stuff at these locations.

  226. It can’t be Joe.
    My man, Mini Mike is playing it beautifully.
    Profit.
    “I’m standing before you running for US Senate”
    It’s impossible.
    I keep remembering a Trump Thug Life clip where 45, rolling the Camo MAGA hat at a Tennessee Show kinda rally, said,
    “Joe Biden wants to take me ‘out to the back of the barn’s..Me!?!?…”
    Smirk.
    Lol, they’re pleading No Contest
    Gay

  227. calli

    The Wonder Of Me

    h/t C.L.

    Bless his little cotton socks and Docs

  228. kaysee

    calli,

    Yes, I can take a guess. It is quite an interesting lurking occupation 🙂

  229. Milt, the Homies are coming out for 45.
    He’s been playing to them pretty hard.
    Because, guess what?
    He actually wants to improve their lot.
    Blacks! for Trump
    Hehe, mah’nigga!

  230. Frank

    I don’t see how that’s compatible with being an introvert.

    Introverted and introspective are not the same though are they. Solving PDEs is not usually a social activity.

  231. The only truly validated personality profile test is OCEAN
    Word
    When you caught inside of a 12 foot set, ain’t nowhere for your black ass to hide.

  232. miltonf

    Yeah must admit I teared up a bit when he campaigned in Detroit in ’16 and they gave him the shawl.

  233. NoFixedAddress

    Tailgunner
    #3343371, posted on March 4, 2020 at 8:01 pm

    NFA, was SunTszu a communist?

    Tailgunner,

    She and Confucius stuffed some folk.

    I represent the Bendigo mob for 0.01%

  234. Porter

    If you’re in transport, you’d be making a motza at the moment delivering toilet paper to restock shelves. It’s a bog roll economy.

  235. kaysee

    I don’t see how that’s compatible with being an introvert. I was while doing all that introspection, but I gave that up. At the same time, I don’t need other people to cheer me up and usually get bored at parties. So I’m not an extravert either.

    From what you have written in your post, you are most likely an introvert. That link explains the personality characteristics in detail.

  236. Bruce of Newcastle

    Melbourne was once Australia’s most conservative city.
    Home of the blue bloods.

    What d’ya mean? Melbourne was the home of the elites then, and it’s still the home of the elites.
    It’s just the elites have gone to the dark side, is all.

  237. Ed Case

    The Milwaukee of Laverne and shirley and richie cunningham is long gone.Bernie bros won’t want to tangle with Bidens wildlife.

  238. mh

    Cocaine and strippers for the Biden boys tonight.

  239. Gab

    I don’t get the point of quince paste as an accompaniment to cheese. It overwhelms the cheese flavour and is pointless. But hey, each to their own.

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