Tuesday Forum: March 17, 2020

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  1. Snoopy

    JC, thanks for the comprehensive reply. I’m not being a smart arse.

    I know you demur to any of this but see if can keep and open mind for once. The financial markets are really the only markets humans have that provide almost immediate signals to what lays in wait for us in the future.. economically speaking derived from economic shocks, policy change etc

    Yes, I get that.

    There was a very serious inversion of yields curves around the world when it really mattered and even though one shouldn’t argue just from a price change, this scenario combined with the ramifications of the virus created the perception of an economic slowdown.

    But it’s more than a perception. The slowdown isn’t imaginary.

    I have investments in US based ETF’s. Some are via NYSE/NASDAQ some via the ASX.

    A few weeks ago I transferred a majority of my investments to Govt bond ETF’s. Due to world times and convenience (laziness?) funds from selling US listed ETF’s went to US government bonds and from ASX listed went to Australian government bonds.

    The US bonds have been performing relatively well the Australian not so well. Shithouse actually. Especially of late.

    Even US bonds have been going down but they are touted as a safe haven.

    I’m just trying to get a handle on what’s going on..

  2. johanna

    Tel
    #3364765, posted on March 19, 2020 at 10:06 pm

    UK death lotto

    Another health system paid out of the tax purse … some to think about when Australia ends up in a similar situation.

    Tel, you should look at the list of life expectancies I posted earlier.

    We have been under our system for more than 40 years now. Other jurisdictions with different mixes have done better or worse.

    I’m not voting for this or that, just saying that there’s no one line perfect answer.

    It is far from as simple as that.

  3. Tel

    Luckily for you Tel, China is doing so well.

    That’s the system you have been schilling for.

    You dimwit, Australia and China run almost identical healthcare systems with the small difference that our tax-paid doctors are comfortable and aspire to nothing better, while the Chinese tax-paid doctors are now and then willing to stand up and stick their necks out.

    But you know all that … you have no real argument so you resort to fraud like the others.

    Unfortunately there are no free healthcare systems on Earth at the moment. There are some small elements still a little bit free, some of the USA and perhaps a handful of private practices in some Western countries. Until Australia has been through Winter, our system has not been put to the test.

  4. Crossie

    The US bonds have been performing relatively well the Australian not so well. Shithouse actually. Especially of late.

    And that’s why I’m hoping my super fund is investing in the US or I will have to work for some years yet.

  5. Davey Boy

    Fellas, I know I’m being hypothetical.. But lets be. Let us see one of you try to set up an oil refinery in the country.

    Go!

    Set one up? Are you kidding me? It’s all still sitting there at Kurnell and Clyde there’s nothing that needs setting up.

    Tel – the Clyde refinery has been dismantled

  6. Fisky

    Gray Connolly
    @GrayConnolly
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    12m
    It turns out that, in a crisis, we need more nurses, delivery drivers, and EMTs than we do brokers and public relations types….I think this will be a very clarifying experience

  7. Crossie

    You dimwit, Australia and China run almost identical healthcare systems with the small difference that our tax-paid doctors are comfortable and aspire to nothing better, while the Chinese tax-paid doctors are now and then willing to stand up and stick their necks out.

    And then they end up dead supposedly of the very disease they were raising alarms about.

  8. Fisky

    You dimwit, Australia and China run almost identical healthcare systems with the small difference that our tax-paid doctors are comfortable and aspire to nothing better, while the Chinese tax-paid doctors are now and then willing to stand up and stick their necks out.

    Australia’s healthcare system has very little in common with China’s. To start with, they do not have universal health coverage like we do. Secondly, their hospitals are unhygienic and you would fly to any neighbouring country rather than have elective surgery in China. This is embarrassing.

  9. mh

    Residents of Venice have reported spotting dolphins, swans and fish in newly clear canal waters after the usually bustling city went quiet as coronavirus spread throughout Italy.

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/dolphins-venice-canals-coronavirus-lockdown-italy-a4390686.html

  10. Armadillo

    while the Chinese tax-paid doctors are now and then willing to stand up and stick their necks out.

    And to sell their patients kidneys (along with various other body parts).

  11. Infidel Tiger

    How good is Gray?

    A very sound man. During a silly phase I went through I didn’t like him.

    Any responsible PM should be reading his tweets.

  12. Crossie

    Fisky
    #3364782, posted on March 19, 2020 at 10:21 pm
    Gray Connolly
    @GrayConnolly
    ·
    12m
    It turns out that, in a crisis, we need more nurses, delivery drivers, and EMTs than we do brokers and public relations types….I think this will be a very clarifying experience

    In a normal world perhaps but not where we live today, greenies and the ABC types rule while the rest of us just lose money.

  13. Fisky

    I’m not voting for this or that, just saying that there’s no one line perfect answer.

    It is far from as simple as that.

    Libertarians do this all the time. They try to assimilate the real world into their ideology, and it always produces bizarre results – in this case claiming that the cause of Italy’s Coronavirus spread is due to its government health-care system, yet ignoring the fact that Taiwan has single-payer government health insurance and hardly any fatalities at all.

    Libertarianism should be banned.

  14. Infidel Tiger

    Anyone who believes a fully privatised health system is possible in a humane society is off their head.

    We are in this world together. We are not all rugged individuals from some Randian fap book.

  15. Fisky

    Gray’s trolling of liberals and libertarians is world class. I really like his work.

  16. Infidel Tiger

    Libertarianism should be banned

    It has effectively been siloed to lunatics who grift in think tanks and universities, and receive massive funding from China and Qatar.

  17. JC

    But it’s more than a perception. The slowdown isn’t imaginary.

    Not now it isn’t but bond yields started to fall in mid January. Credit market were signaling potential trouble ahead and other markets picked up on this later. In mid January everyone was talking about what a great year it would be. Play with the chart for this ETF here:
    https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/TLT?p=TLT

    Even US bonds have been going down but they are touted as a safe haven.

    I’m just trying to get a handle on what’s going on..

    I honestly don’t know but it could be either really bad or good. I said this earlier in the day.

    Here:

    You know, Australian 10 year bonds rose in yield today. The US 10 year did as well overnight. I really don’t know how to read this – if it’s good or really bad.

    Good. the Bond market is normalizing due to massive pumping

    Bad. Everything fell last night except bonds which may also mean people are losing faith in the financial system.

    It may be good because the Aussie Dollar rose from the lows and is now mid 57. The Aussie is a decent marker for global liquidity. We can’t dismiss the amount of pumping that been going on.

  18. Infidel Tiger

    We can’t dismiss the amount of pumping that been going on.

    Been a hell of a spring break.

  19. Armadillo

    I think this will be a very clarifying experience

    Wait for the army of bureaucrats required to manage the stimulus. They will still be around once the pandemic has long passed.

  20. JC

    Snoopy

    If it’s bad the only thing of any real worth is an ample food supply and a gun with lots of ammo to protect the food storage.

  21. Fisky

    It may be good because the Aussie Dollar rose from the lows and is now mid 57.

    The markets rose after Morrison’s immigration ban announcement. That inspired enormous confidence in Australia’s survival as a nation, hence the dollar rose.

  22. johanna

    Oh, and JD, curse you forever for this earworm, posted by you.

    A bunch of seriously daggy Norwegians doing EmmyLou Harris, superb.

    As an afficianda of every kind of loud and dischordant music, this one keeps getting to me. Embarrasment.

  23. Snoopy

    JC
    #3364800, posted on March 19, 2020 at 10:31 pm
    Snoopy

    If it’s bad the only thing of any real worth is an ample food supply and a gun with lots of ammo to protect the food storage.

    True. I have both.

  24. JC

    Been a hell of a spring break.

    No one believes them though and all of it is mostly being done to settle the short end. In other words to mitigate against the impact of the virus. No one believes they aim for the inflation mandate which would normalize the yield curve.

  25. Stimpson J. Cat

    So I understand today has been rather stressful for all you Sane People.

    R U OK?

    😂

  26. Infidel Tiger

    Everyone was extremely relieved to hear international flights are stopping.

    Globalism is over.

    Anyone who holidays outside Australia in the next 5 years should be shamed and beaten. That’s also on my recovery list.

  27. Tel

    Tel, you should look at the list of life expectancies I posted earlier.

    There’s very good reasons not to trust life expectancy statistics, especially as a way to judge healthcare systems. For example, in the USA the biggest three factors giving them a shorter average life expectancy than the European countries are: (1) the USA counts babies as alive from the moment of birth and adds them to the infant mortality statistics if they die soon after birth while in the EU they count the baby as a stillbirth even if it does live a short duration then dies, (2) in the USA more people have cars, and more people drive longer distances so they also have more road deaths, (3) certain towns in the USA have a lot of violence from armed gangs (e.g.Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit, St Louis, etc) and these have a high murder rate. None of these are problems with hospitals, or doctors.

    A lot of health comes down to good diet and lifestyle, based partly on wealth, partly on culture. The greatest health advancement in all of human history was understanding that clean drinking water should be kept separate from sewage, and building the devices to achieve that. This idea existed in Roman times, but has been rediscovered several times. Places like LA where they shit in the street are gradually rediscovering it once again. Not related to hospitals though.

  28. That was a weird game of football. But we got through it. Some semblance of normalcy.

  29. JC

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #3364805, posted on March 19, 2020 at 10:35 pm

    So I understand today has been rather stressful for all you Sane People.

    R U OK?

    Not Porterloo. Yesterday he was complaining what a nasty little brute you’ve been to him. I felt sorry for him. What the hell did you do to the big mary, Stimson.

  30. Stimpson J. Cat

    If I need guns I’ll take my shirt off JC.

  31. bespoke

    Libertarianism should be banned.

    What strain?
    Not once has Tel shilled for open boarders and has been an opponent to the dismantling of manufacturing. So the meme has gone on tediously long without evidence.

  32. Megan

    Cassie, Dave is right older potatoes give a better result as do floury ones over waxy. Good luck and let me know how you go. I might give them a whirl on the weekend as well, in social solidarity.

  33. Geriatric Mayfly

    As close as we will ever get to a bacon cake, which I am sure would be more appetising.

    PORK CAKE.
    Mrs. W. Gilbreath.
    One pound of raw pork chopped very fine, add half a pint of
    boiling water, one pound of seeded raisins, one-fourth pound of
    shredded citron, two cups sugar, one cup molajses, one teaspoon
    soda dissolved in a little water. Mix these ingredients, add one
    tablespoon cloves, cinnamon and nutmeg. Stir in sifted flour to
    the consistency of common cake mixture. Bake slowly for one
    hou/ and forty minutes.

  34. Fisky

    When we come out of this hell, I look forward to attending a party and asking the first spiv I bump into “so, what do you do?”

    Before the crisis, they would puff themselves up and be like, “Oh, I’m a strategic-stakeholder-agility-consultant” or some garbage, which isn’t even a proper job, and expect us to be impressed.

    Going forward, anyone who is unable to explain exactly a) what they make and b) who they make it for will either be unemployed or embarrassed to reveal their job title.

  35. Leigh Lowe

    Anyone who holidays outside Australia in the next 5 years should be shamed and beaten. That’s also on my recovery list.

    I only go to Tuscany and the Greek Islands because I can’t afford to go to Uluru and Broome.

  36. EvilElvis

    Anyone who holidays outside Australia in the next 5 years should be shamed and beaten. That’s also on my recovery list.

    We’ll be getting encouraged to go back to Bali, tsunami aftermath style by June because they’ll be struggling. Economically. And we are so rich…

  37. JC

    And we are so rich…

    With a 57 cent aussie?

  38. Leigh Lowe

    Geriatric Mayfly

    #3364814, posted on March 19, 2020 at 10:38 pm

    As close as we will ever get to a bacon cake, which I am sure would be more appetising.

    Fat and sugar.
    The two supreme food groups.

  39. mh

    Domestic holiday ideas:

    1. Climb Ayers Rock

    …Oh, hang on

  40. Armadillo

    Some semblance of normalcy.

    Im assuming they didn’t let the Sheliahs play?

  41. Stimpson J. Cat

    Not Porterloo. Yesterday he was complaining what a nasty little brute you’ve been to him. I felt sorry for him. What the hell did you do to the big mary, Stimson.

    Porterloo is clearly Grigs.
    Only Grigs talks like this.

    Porter
    #3364414, posted on March 19, 2020 at 5:40 pm
    Fisky
    #3364340, posted on March 19, 2020 at 5:19 pm

    Immigrants arrive here with residence visas – meaning they will be let in – so there will be no such ban unless you can provide documentary evidence otherwise.

    I mean that is classic cancerous Grigs, surely.
    He will outlive Corona too, guaranteed.

  42. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Fat and sugar.
    The two supreme food groups.

    Alcohol, sugar, fat and caffeine. The essential food groups.

  43. Crossie

    Let’s do a bit of maths, is the 100 billion dollars Coronavirus stimulus less or greater than what we get annually from exports to China? Is it all cancelled out anyway by what we import annually from China? Wouldn’t it have been simpler just to keep our industries rather than outsourcing them to China?

  44. Fisky

    People who make burgers, for example, or who drive cars to deliver them to customers, are very valuable people. We know what they do and their impact is measurable. Communications/marketing/etc sh0uld be all be fired at once.

  45. JC

    I mean that is classic cancerous Grigs, surely.

    Nonsense. Gools is currently going through morgues skinning dead bodies. He’s busy.

  46. EvilElvis

    With a 57 cent aussie?

    Party like a Nigerian prince, not a Jordanian king, JC. They need us.

    In June…

  47. Stimpson J. Cat

    Australia’s healthcare system has very little in common with China’s. To start with, they do not have universal health coverage like we do. Secondly, their hospitals are unhygienic and you would fly to any neighbouring country rather than have elective surgery in China.

    Thirdly, you actually wake up with your organs still where they are meant to be rather than in a bloodstained Esky.

  48. egg_

    It turns out that, in a crisis, we need more nurses, delivery drivers, and EMTs than we do brokers and public relations types….I think this will be a very clarifying experience

    Will COVID-19 eradicate “bullsh1t jerbs”?
    I doubt it, in today’s Service Economy of their ABC and acolytes.

  49. Infidel Tiger

    whobis more valuable right now.

    The guy in the toilet paper factory or the business coach?

    At least half the western world has fake jobs.

  50. EvilElvis

    Thirdly, you actually wake up with your organs still where they are meant to be rather than in a bloodstained Esky.

    On a short stint in China working I had a near ‘wake up in a bath of ice, kidneys missing’ experience after an attempted bait and switch at a local nightclub. Good times!

  51. Fisky

    Gray Connolly
    @GrayConnolly
    ·
    1m
    The US Govt has within mere weeks taken a trial #coronavirus vaccine to human trials. It is an astonishing achievement esp as the PRC lied & obstructed at every step of the way in January. So why are so many blue chekists running Beijing’s line here? Cui Bono? Whither?

  52. JC

    Party like a Nigerian prince, not a Jordanian king, JC. They need us.

    In June…

    We’re due to leave for US in June unless everyone is dead and then we can’t go because we’re dead too or the pilots are all dead.

    Anyways, I was thinking that an average restaurant bill for 3 with drinks ( we always take the kid) is slightly north of 2oo bucks with tip. That’s A$350 for a very casual night out and nothing flash!

  53. You guys are so, so close to realising the value of a UBI.

  54. John Comnenus

    A simple way to stop the panic buying in its tracks would be to force Woolies and Coles to do online shopping only. This would allow the largest supermarkets to quickly get on top of stock by regulating sales. It’s also better for social distancing etc. that would leave the other chains like ALDI and IGA to focus on in store shopping.

  55. Gab

    Sadly Spain has taken over Italy in terms of new cases.

    Still, overall globally, 95% of active cases have a mild form of the virus. And 90% of closed cases have recovered.

  56. Crossie

    Fisky
    #3364801, posted on March 19, 2020 at 10:32 pm
    It may be good because the Aussie Dollar rose from the lows and is now mid 57.

    The markets rose after Morrison’s immigration ban announcement. That inspired enormous confidence in Australia’s survival as a nation, hence the dollar rose.

    You may have noticed it but that doesn’t mean anyone in Canberra has since they all have the media disease that changes reality into whatever Twitter says.

  57. Mitch M.

    mh
    #3364820, posted on March 19, 2020 at 10:40 pm
    Domestic holiday ideas:

    1. Climb Ayers Rock

    …Oh, hang on

    What’s the panic about then? Just go for some of that old time indigenous genius they keep saying is there if only we would look. They keep insisting they were the first to do X, now invite them to be the first to cure this bug.

  58. Stimpson J. Cat

    Stimpys Hot Stock Tips

    Buy Sony.
    As soon as they launch the PS5 later this year it will go berserk because everyone will be stuck at home playing video games.
    Think how many Monty’s there are out there, people!
    Millions!

  59. JC

    m0nty
    #3364836, posted on March 19, 2020 at 10:48 pm

    You guys are so, so close to realising the value of a UBI.

    huh, universal basic income? WTF?

  60. Mark A

    Go to bed and have a rest, my lame pics will help you to sleep.

  61. Infidel Tiger

    You guys are so, so close to realising the value of a UBI.

    Government deliberately closing your business and giving you compensation is as close to UBI as you are to having a satisfactory BMI.

  62. BorisG

    Communications/marketing/etc sh0uld be all be fired at once.

    If you run a business, you can do so at once. If not, it is probably wise to leave this for businesses to decide.

  63. Fisky

    At least half the western world has fake jobs.

    Universities, corporations, government departments – they’ll all have to do a mass cull. They kind of did half-heartedly in 2008-9, but ponzi money came to the rescue. Not this time!

  64. BorisG

    And 90% of closed cases have recovered.

    10% mortality rate? If true, this is extremely worrying.

  65. Crossie

    Infidel Tiger
    #3364806, posted on March 19, 2020 at 10:35 pm

    Anyone who holidays outside Australia in the next 5 years should be shamed and beaten. That’s also on my recovery list.

    Do Papua New Guinea, Vanuatu and Solomon Islands count seeing as we give them stacks of foreign aid regardless?

  66. Tel

    Fortunately, salt is cheap. Oh, hush my mouth, it will give them ideas! 🙁

    I keep an adequate supply.

    That Lebanese strongman Nassim Taleb had a discussion on how minorities can impose their rules on everyone else simply by being stubborn. So if 10% of customers will refuse to buy food unless it is low salt, then 90% of people must add salt in order to satisfy that minority. The manufacturer always caters to the most difficult customer in the belief (often true) that the easygoing people will bend and not complain. The result is an incentive to be as stubborn and whiny as possible … and heck maybe that explains a lot of our current situation.

  67. Think about it though, these bullshit service jobs you are talking about are all predicated on the need to maintain markets for capitalism to function. Advertising, broking, consulting… these are all functions created by and for the capitalist system. If you abolish them in favour of primary workers, you are pretty much a Marxist.

  68. JC

    The US Govt has within mere weeks taken a trial #coronavirus vaccine to human trials. It is an astonishing achievement esp as the PRC lied & obstructed at every step of the way in January.

    It really is an incredible achievement. Think how technology has sped up the collaboration between seriously smart fuckers.
    For the geek or geeks who end up finding the vaccine, they should be given a week “vacation” with the top of the line Russian hooker. It’s the least we could do.

  69. johanna

    Geriatric Mayfly
    #3364814, posted on March 19, 2020 at 10:38 pm

    As close as we will ever get to a bacon cake, which I am sure would be more appetising.

    PORK CAKE.
    Mrs. W. Gilbreath.
    One pound of raw pork chopped very fine, add half a pint of
    boiling water, one pound of seeded raisins, one-fourth pound of
    shredded citron, two cups sugar, one cup molajses, one teaspoon
    soda dissolved in a little water. Mix these ingredients, add one
    tablespoon cloves, cinnamon and nutmeg. Stir in sifted flour to
    the consistency of common cake mixture. Bake slowly for one
    hou/ and forty minutes.

    Yep, this was English cooking at its best, as I mentioned above.

  70. mh

    What’s the panic about then? Just go for some of that old time indigenous genius they keep saying is there if only we would look. They keep insisting they were the first to do X, now invite them to be the first to cure this bug.

    Aboriginals working on the COVID-19 vaccine?

    Get to it bruthas.

  71. Think about it though, these bullshit service jobs you are talking about are all predicated on the need to maintain markets for capitalism to function. Advertising, broking, consulting… these are all functions created by and for the capitalist system. If you abolish them in favour of primary workers, you are pretty much a fellow traveller with old mate Karl.

  72. EvilElvis

    That’s A$350 for a very casual night out and nothing flash!

    Yeah, we did Vegas last September when the Aus was about 66c. Bloody painful then. Completely shite now.

  73. BorisG

    We’re due to leave for US in June unless everyone is dead and then we can’t go because we’re dead too or the pilots are all dead.

    The chances that you will be flights for you to take are slim. Hope I am wrong.

    I also have a trip planned for June-July but I estimate my chances as about 20%.

  74. Snoopy

    Fisky
    #3364815, posted on March 19, 2020 at 10:39 pm
    When we come out of this hell, I look forward to attending a party and asking the first spiv I bump into “so, what do you do?”

    Are parties still a thing? In my youth there was at least one every month. Lads were expected to turn up with at least half a carton of cans (six packs not being invented) and a flagon of Moselle for the ladies or when the beer ran out.

    Later on up North it was down to the wharf with a couple of six packs when the pub shut.

  75. BorisG

    sorry I mean ‘The chances that there will be flights for you to take are slim. Hope I am wrong.

  76. Mitch M.

    As soon as they launch the PS5 later this year it will go berserk because everyone will be stuck at home playing video games.

    It’s basically a PC stuffed into a console. Console’s are going to soon be limited unless someone can come up with a way to reduce the energy(ie heat) issue of graphics processing.

    Buy AMD, Zen processors inside and AMD RDNA graphics.

    Buy AMD, new mobile chips are going to knock holes in Intel’s dominance and in the PC market AMD 5-3600 massively outsells other chips.

    Buy AMD, their EPYC processors are a serious challenger in the server market.

    Nah, too late, those who know saw this coming at least 12 months ago. Intel has admitted their 1onm process is a big fail and will probably take 2 years to get beyond the 10nm bottleneck by which time AMD, Samsung, and Apple will be close to 5nm(allow differences in metrics).

  77. Crossie

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #3364841, posted on March 19, 2020 at 10:50 pm
    Stimpys Hot Stock Tips

    Buy Sony.
    As soon as they launch the PS5 later this year it will go berserk because everyone will be stuck at home playing video games.

    If Sony were really civics minded they would release it now.

  78. Steve trickler

    Vision and sound worthy of preservation. 2018.

    Will be very interesting to see the immune system of these people, step into ring with this virus in 2020.



  79. EvilElvis

    It really is an incredible achievement.

    America’s 5 percenters getting to work.

    Australia’s 5 percenters are stuck on a cruise ship.

  80. Armadillo

    these bullshit service jobs

    What is it that you do for living again, mOnts?

    Remind us.

  81. Fisky

    You guys are so, so close to realising the value of a UBI.

    I have long supported a Job Guarantee, not UBI because it will just get blown on meth. However, no one is allowed to go to work for the next couple months, so a UBI it is.

  82. cohenite

    Gold has been all over the place; Saracen Mineral Holdings, a solid producer, had an almost $1 up/down turnaround twice over the last few days. 30% up and down.

  83. cohenite

    Gold has been all over the place; SAR, a solid producer, had an almost $1 up/down turnaround twice over the last few days. 30% up and down.

  84. johanna

    John Comnenus
    #3364837, posted on March 19, 2020 at 10:48 pm

    A simple way to stop the panic buying in its tracks would be to force Woolies and Coles to do online shopping only. This would allow the largest supermarkets to quickly get on top of stock by regulating sales. It’s also better for social distancing etc. that would leave the other chains like ALDI and IGA to focus on in store shopping.

    That’s the kind of practical thinking that makes me wonder why you aren’t out grazing with the Masters of the Universe, instead of among us plebs.

    Or maybe running your local Department of Health.

    🙂

  85. Helen Davidson (nmrn)

    It turns out that, in a crisis, we need more nurses, delivery drivers, and EMTs than we do brokers and public relations types….I think this will be a very clarifying experience

    Given the number of emails I’m getting (from just about every business I’ve ever dealt with) about how they are managing the COVID-19 situation, I’m think the public relation types are safe.

  86. What is it that you do for living again, mOnts?

    Entertainment! Always a market for that.

  87. Tel

    At least half the western world has fake jobs.

    That world class numbskull David Graeber wrote a book called “Bullshit Jobs” and I never bought that book, but I’m going to criticize the book anyhow, because I listened to his talk at the London School of Fabian Economics (the talk is online and can be downloaded for free) and at no stage did it even mildly dawn on him that most of the bullshit jobs exist because of government compliance.

  88. JC

    The chances that you will be flights for you to take are slim. Hope I am wrong.

    Really Boris, you think that? Our kid is due back to the US for her job at the end of this month. She gets up at around 3 in our morning and works partially through their hours.. There must be will be a flight out of here by then no?

  89. Mitch M.

    Entertainment! Always a market for that.

    Great Song

  90. egg_

    Buy Sony.
    As soon as they launch the PS5 later this year it will go berserk because everyone will be stuck at home playing video games.
    Think how many Monty’s there are out there, people!
    Millions!

    Go long on Krispy Kremes?

  91. Crossie

    Are parties still a thing? In my youth there was at least one every month. Lads were expected to turn up with at least half a carton of cans (six packs not being invented) and a flagon of Moselle for the ladies or when the beer ran out.

    Snoopy, where we lived Moselle was fine for weekdays but party grog for ladies was Cold Duck or Rhinegold.

  92. johanna

    As soon as they launch the PS5 later this year it will go berserk because everyone will be stuck at home playing video games.

    Correction, you and your pals will be … etc.

    You sound like Chum on Pawn Stars, only less perceptive.

  93. cohenite

    You guys are so, so close to realising the value of a UBI.

    A resonant vomit by the fat troll.

    A UBI is not a base but a ceiling. 120 years of communism has established that.

  94. BorisG

    Entertainment! Always a market for that.

    Sports journalists are having a lot of air time, debating what’s happening with all sorts of cancellations, rescheduling, etc. How many jobs it supports and long this will last is unclear.

  95. Crossie

    Helen Davidson (nmrn)
    #3364869, posted on March 19, 2020 at 11:02 pm
    It turns out that, in a crisis, we need more nurses, delivery drivers, and EMTs than we do brokers and public relations types….I think this will be a very clarifying experience

    Given the number of emails I’m getting (from just about every business I’ve ever dealt with) about how they are managing the COVID-19 situation, I’m think the public relation types are safe.

    Every company I ever did business with has emailed me about their COVID-19 strategy.

  96. Siltstone

    Email from Quantarse:

    Rather than triggering large scale job losses, we are instead standing down the majority of our 30,000 strong workforce from next week. We are working with our people to support them during this period, including allowing them to take a range of leave options.

    Surely the Irishman can give them a job handing out fliers promoting homosexuality and condemming Christian rugby players who quote the Bible? No innovation! No diverse thinking! No inclusiveness! No wonder they are struggling to connect with the travelling public. Or perhaps it is because of QANTAS’s eight “Non-Negotiable Business Principles” don’t event mention looking after shareholders.

  97. Crossie

    BorisG
    #3364879, posted on March 19, 2020 at 11:09 pm
    Entertainment! Always a market for that.

    Sports journalists are having a lot of air time, debating what’s happening with all sorts of cancellations, rescheduling, etc. How many jobs it supports and long this will last is unclear.

    If we are expected to keep a social distance why don’t they just sell every third or fourth seat in a stadium and then they can still make money?

  98. rickw

    Manufacturing businesses closed because it was fucking uneconomic to produce here.

    That is a fact and a true statement.
    Doesn’t tell us anything.
    Why can other countries, yes even those with comparable or better wages and standard of living can do but we can’t?

    From what I can gather, Australian industry hung in there for quite some time. If you take machinetool manufacturers as being a canary in the cage, both Nutall and Hercus hung in there for a good while, early 1990’s, they survived the Japanese, Hong Kong and Taiwanese but not China. The cumulative impact of successive low wage countries taking large chunks out of their markets. The story is pretty similar for most US and European machinetool builders.

    Up until the 1970’s there was some import duties on machinetool. Government recognised that maintaining a machinetool industry was of national importance, they remembered that in WWII Australia was desperately short of machinetools, as supplies from the UK and USA ceased. The situation would have been far worse if machinetool dealers McPherson’s hadn’t recognised the problem in the late 1930’s and consciously set out to help establish manufacturers of products that they were importing.

    Even though the tariffs ended in the 1970’s many held out until the mid 1980’s including Sheraton and Kirby Zenford. The range covering conventional and CNC machinetools. I believe there is only one surviving original manufacturer, ANCA controls, they survived by specialising in CNC tool and cutter grinders. I think there has been one startup in recent times, ART, they manufacture CNC routers.

    Basically the Australian machinetool manufacturing story is not particularly worse than the story for the USA or Europe. Slaughtered by a low wage competitor who only gives limited access to their own market for the sole purpose of stealing technology.

  99. Snoopy

    Crossie, if you took a girl to the party it was a bottle of Ben Ean or Liebfraumilch if she was special.

  100. Gab

    I reckon it will be all back to normal, for Australia, by Easter.

  101. Crossie

    Or perhaps it is because of QANTAS’s eight “Non-Negotiable Business Principles” don’t event mention looking after shareholders.

    Shareholders? Why they are the greedy baby boomers about to retire. The Gen-X CEO of Qantas is forgoing a small chunk of his 22 million dollars annual salary to show how much he cares.

  102. Infidel Tiger

    At least half the people in Australia seem to be able to work from home with no problem or without any care.

    People are overjoyed to be in “isolation”.

    What sort of bullshit economy is this? Normal people are watching their world burn down while grifters and fake jobbers tray this as an extended holiday.

  103. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Crossie, if you took a girl to the party it was a bottle of Ben Ean or Liebfraumilch if she was special.

    Bottle of “Skip and Go Naked” was regarded as rather blatant..

  104. Leo G

    Tel – the Clyde refinery has been dismantled

    And Kurnell has been merely an import terminal for the last 6 years.

  105. JC

    Every company I ever did business with has emailed me about their COVID-19 strategy.

    LOl.. even mutual funds are.

    This is in my email box. The AFR:

    As a valued reader, we’re sending you this special note to let you know about a new newsletter we are launching.

    Delieveroo

    Hi JC

    As the cases of COVID-19 increase across the world and the Government continues to issue advice, we want to ensure that you get the information and the support you need from us, as efficiently as possible.

    A real estate agency

    An important message about Coronavirus (COVID-19)

    Kay & Burton is taking important measures to mitigate the risk and further spread of Coronavirus (COVID-19).
    The health and safety of our clients, staff and the community are of paramount importance to us as we assist buyers and sellers navigate this difficult time.
    Our offices remain open and it is largely business as usual. :

    I even got one from an online store.. like would I care as the purpose of an online store is not to see anyone.

    God I wish this thing turns into a big fizzer.

  106. Fisky

    Solid tweet. Straight in the nuts of the loser media.

    The White House
    @WhiteHouse
    Spanish Flu. West Nile Virus. Zika. Ebola. All named for places.

    Before the media’s fake outrage, even CNN called it “Chinese Coronavirus.”

    Those trying to divide us must stop rooting for America to fail and give Americans real info they need to get through the crisis.

  107. Infidel Tiger

    I reckon it will be all back to normal, for Australia, by Easter.

    There is no back to normal now. Everything changed this week forever.

  108. Armadillo

    I’m think the public relation types are safe.

    I’ve seen plenty of evidence of that in local sporting clubs. CEO’s make a decision, followed by backlash, followed by reversal, followed by backlash, followed by “tweaking”, followed by backlash.

    And this is all in the space of 24 hours.

    FFS, make a decision and explain it. Then stick to your guns until the smoke clears.

    It might turn out to be the wrong decision, but at least you don’t look like a spineless twit.

  109. JC

    Gab
    #3364886, posted on March 19, 2020 at 11:15 pm

    I reckon it will be all back to normal, for Australia, by Easter.

    My kid’s wife was told they weren’t going in until end of May

  110. johanna

    It was a bit of a downbeat time in the Britpop industry, culminating with Joe Jackson’s ‘Everything Gives You Cancer.’ Quite right, Joe.

    Meanwhile, we had The Sunnyboys:

  111. Stimpson J. Cat

    It’s basically a PC stuffed into a console. Console’s are going to soon be limited unless someone can come up with a way to reduce the energy(ie heat) issue of graphics processing.

    No Mitch, it’s more than that.
    The breakthroughs they are touting in SSD speed and Surround Sound Audio are going to be absolute gamechangers if they are legit.
    Go watch Mark Cernys presentation.
    He is the God of the Nerds.

  112. AUD 57 and headed for 45

    You heard it here first.

  113. Tel

    UBI is a bad idea … but uncle Milt liked the idea.

    I would accept it … only if it replaced some of the other nuttier government wealth transfer programs but only on the basis of swapping on bad for a different bad. Trouble is they will inflict all of the bads on us all at once. Yeah I agree that UBI will mostly be spent on things like drugs and shallow stuff. People see it as easy come easy go. You respect the money when you worked to earn it.

  114. DrBeauGan

    What is it that you do for living again, mOnts?

    Entertainment! Always a market for that.

    You mean you’re a clown?

  115. rickw

    No.1 MkIII update:

    Picked it up this arvo and consequently had the opportunity to look at it more closely. Was told that it was a non matching serial number gun, so didn’t check, on closer inspection, all serial numbers match!

    Dad showed me an interesting feature that I was completely unaware of. On the LH side of the charger clip guide, there is a small hole. Apparently the purpose of this is to allow you to snap the tip off the end of the firing pin and thereby render the rifle inoperative. Can anyone confirm this?

    Funny old bugger started trying to remember his rifle drills from cadets and almost put some more dents in the stock. Ceiling fan.

  116. egg_

    At least half the people in Australia seem to be able to work from home with no problem or without any care.

    People are overjoyed to be in “isolation”.

    What sort of bullshit economy is this? Normal people are watching their world burn down while grifters and fake jobbers tray this as an extended holiday.

    Corporate Australia spends half their time in meetings, which they can do from home/Supermarket/hotel lobby on the cellphone.

  117. Infidel Tiger

    Old Whig
    @aClassicLiberal

    “A study published in March indicated that if Chinese authorities had acted three weeks earlier than they did, the number of coronavirus cases could have been reduced by 95% and its geographic spread limited.” http://bit.ly/2WpaX2S HT
    @Neoavatara

    Incredible. These are Tel’s leading lights.

    China. Did. This.

    Never. Ever. Forget.

  118. Siltstone

    Spanish Flu. West Nile Virus. Zika. Ebola. All named for places.

    Hendra

  119. feelthebern

    There is no back to normal now.

    Correct.

  120. cohenite

    Basically the Australian machinetool manufacturing story is not particularly worse than the story for the USA or Europe. Slaughtered by a low wage competitor who only gives limited access to their own market for the sole purpose of stealing technology.

    Correct. Repeat and rinse for every other industry in the West. The idea that economics, as in competition as the head prefect bloviates, from cheaper countries is just bullshit. Every cheap country hid its cheapness under a plethora of restrictive trade and local subsidy structure plus tyrannical social structure. A level playing field my arse. Any country which does not protect its essential industry deserves to get reamed up the arse by the chunks.

  121. Snoopy

    IT

    There is no back to normal now. Everything changed this week forever.

    Exactly. As someone said here earlier this week (you?), if your job can be done at home it can be done from India.

    On the upside, it could mean the end of universities, colleges and high schoos as places.

  122. AUD 57 and headed for 45

    Was talking to a mate of mine today who is a meat wholesaler, he predicted below 40. His business has more than doubled.

  123. egg_

    CBA CEO says Oz Economy won’t recover in 3 months, but it will recover.

  124. Infidel Tiger

    Every currency on earth is getting smashed except King Dollar.

  125. mh

    Rather than triggering large scale job losses, we are instead standing down the majority of our 30,000 strong workforce from next week.

    Righto. All good then.

  126. Armadillo

    Solid tweet. Straight in the nuts of the loser media.

    German Measles would have been another good example. That and Stockholm Syndrome to have a dig at the African American voters fixation with the Democrats.

    In fact, he could have thrown in the term “African American”. Would that make him a racist? In the eyes of CNN, quite possibly.

  127. Peted

    Gab
    #3364838, posted on March 19, 2020 at 10:48 pm
    Sadly Spain has taken over Italy in terms of new cases.

    Still, overall globally, 95% of active cases have a mild form of the virus. And 90% of closed cases have recovered.

    Good thing 95% are mild, as currently deaths are 4.1% of identified cases (and rising).

  128. Infidel Tiger

    CBA CEO says Oz Economy won’t recover in 3 months, but it will recover.

    “We’re fucked and will never recover” was probably the first draft.

  129. rickw

    Corporate Australia spends half their time in meetings, which they can do from home/Supermarket/hotel lobby on the cellphone.

    You forgot / bogg / bed. Have been on telecons with both snoring and flushing. Also the mother of all cat fights on one (real cats).

  130. Fisky

    Correct. Repeat and rinse for every other industry in the West. The idea that economics, as in competition as the head prefect bloviates, from cheaper countries is just bullshit. Every cheap country hid its cheapness under a plethora of restrictive trade and local subsidy structure plus tyrannical social structure. A level playing field my arse. Any country which does not protect its essential industry deserves to get reamed up the arse by the chunks.

    One of the PRC’s repeated tactics is to dump on Western markets to bankrupt companies there, then take them over. “Free traders” support this of course.

  131. Tel

    China. Did. This.

    Never. Ever. Forget.

    Show me how you know that?

    Don’t resort to fraud or bluff, put forward a logical argument, using sources and real information. Where did the virus originate? Explain it.

  132. Fisky

    Where did the virus originate? Explain it.

    Oh dear.

  133. Porter

    PM looks to nationalise failing firms

    Scott Morrison is heading down a road that may require him to do what was politically unimaginable only three weeks ago.

    1 HOUR AGO  By SIMON BENSON

  134. rickw

    Oh dear.

    Shit, even the CCP isn’t prepared to lie about the origin just yet.

  135. Knuckle Dragger

    I am so fucking sick of this fucking pissweak virus.

    I have self-diagnosed. Coronavirus Fatigue Syndrome.

    Enough with the disaster porn, government and meeja fuckwits. Either reopen every single goddamn thing, except trade ties with BatLand and their inbound flights, or shut everything the fuck down.

    The lot. And then let the plebs fight to the death with mallets and axes in the street.

    Either would do. Just stop with the ‘doing what’s best for you’ boilerplate.

  136. Fisky

    PM looks to nationalise failing firms

    Good. Another nail in the coffin of libertarianism. Let’s bury this cult and do so with maximum prejudice.

  137. Infidel Tiger

    This is sad now, Tel.

    Even China and the CCP agree with me. Why don’t you disprove it?

  138. JC

    Any country which does not protect its essential industry deserves to get reamed up the arse by the chunks.

    The thing I most admire about you Cronkite, is that you’re a big thinker. You think big things and right all the time.
    Tell us, Shirley, you want Morrison or Albanese to think up what is strategic and then impose massive tariffs. That works so well. You’d be just creating a version of the renewballs scam by multiples.. you idiot.

    Remember, the submarine “sector” is strategic as we were told.

  139. Mitch M.

    No Mitch, it’s more than that.
    The breakthroughs they are touting in SSD speed and Surround Sound Audio are going to be absolute gamechangers if they are legit.
    Go watch Mark Cernys presentation.
    He is the God of the Nerds.

    Yeah good increases in SSD but academic if not matched by graphics card bandwidth and CPU power. All this will soon be in PCs. AMD 500 series mobos and are PCIE 4 ready and that will match it with NVMEs).
    Sound is over rated because unless you have the right room and speakers it mostly lost. Most gamers I know don’t even put enough thought into speaker placement.

  140. johanna

    And later they were alone with some of the boppers in that Countdown clip.We just like rock stars for friends, in the Mothers of Invention sense.

    Any old Griks or Italians here still arguing about the world financial markets and how they would run them? In betwen ordering more coffee, and being careful not to upset their wives so that their wives could hear?

  141. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Show me how you know that?’

    Tel,

    About this time last night Plagiarism Bob aka Wikipedia dispensed some knowledge on the subject.

  142. Tel

    Where did the virus originate? Explain it.

    Oh dear.

    Admission of defeat then.

    Obserced tactics: smear, lie, strawman, bluff, and finally go for brutal repetition not much better than Monty or Numbers.

  143. egg_

    JC’s boss lies through his teeth?
    Calming the horses on ABC News.

  144. johanna

    Golldurn it, I just want to have a Roll Mop.

  145. Fisky

    Maybe we should start posting articles from the Global Times (China’s English-language state newspaper) reminding our conspiracy cranks that China has always believed that the virus started in Wuhan.

    globaltimes.cn/content/1179602.shtml

    The nightmare of a SARS-like coronavirus returned to China, causing over 55,000 infections and killing more than 1,300 so far. The outbreak has also raised questions about what should have been done by the provincial-level government to prevent such a huge crisis and what challenges it has brought to re-examine the country’s top-down emergency responding mechanism by fixing loopholes.

    Two top officials from Central China’s Hubei Province, where the epicenter Wuhan is located, have recently been removed from their positions after a series of problems occurred amid the outbreak of the novel coronavirus pneumonia, officially known as COVID-19, which started from a local seafood market in early December but spread to not only all the provinces and municipalities in the country but also outside China.

  146. Knuckle Dragger

    Gliks.

    Billions of them in D-town. Great concreters. Own half of the town and all of the gummint, and they absolutely did not give a red rat’s arse about the bat munchers, or their virus.

    Until today, then they cancelled the annual Glenti Festival, which is a weekend celebration of all things chockie frog. Makes a shit tin of money as well.

    This evening, during a very short break from other proceedings I went to the local Colesworths for milk to find the joint crammed with Mediterranean nannas with masks on sweeping random shit of shelves and into trolleys.

    Were they wailing at each other at concert level pitch? Why yes. Yes they were.

  147. Stimpson J. Cat

    Don’t resort to fraud or bluff, put forward a logical argument, using sources and real information. Where did the virus originate? Explain it.

    I’m sure this is just completely random coincidence.
    From 2018.

  148. Fisky

    Admission of defeat then.

    Not really. I’m delighted that you want to state, again and again, that you do not believe the virus started in China.

    Pro-tip – it started in China, in a city called Wuhan.

  149. mh

    Last call – tonight’s UK death toll

    139 mh
    147 MT
    164 Siltstone
    171 EvilElvis
    138 Egg (the strategist)

  150. Fisky

    In today’s edition, China’s state newspaper, the Global Times, insists that the Wuhan Virus did in fact start in Wuhan.

    https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1183092.shtml

    No new infections of the novel coronavirus were reported on Wednesday in Wuhan, the epicenter of the epidemic, marking a notable first in the city’s months-long battle with the microscopic foe.

    The Health Commission of Hubei Province, where Wuhan is the capital, said the virus’ death toll climbed by eight in the province, but the total confirmed cases of the novel coronavirus disease (COVID-19) in Wuhan and Hubei remained at 50,005 and 67,800 on Wednesday.

  151. Mitch M.

    One of the PRC’s repeated tactics is to dump on Western markets to bankrupt companies there, then take them over. “Free traders” support this of course.

    People don’t seem to understand that the Chinese oligarchy, and if ADVChina is to be believed increasingly the average Chinese citizen, is hell bent on payback for the century of humiliation and intend to become militarily, economically, and politically dominant not only in SE Asia but as far as they possibly can. They are doing it for themselves and will manipulate economic levers to maximise their power in every other domain. We laughed at Rudd’s famous description but perhaps we should have thought more carefully about it.

  152. Infidel Tiger

    All these viruses start everywhere other than China. If not for the brilliant Chinese doctors we would never even know about them.

  153. Fisky

    I could have enormous fun with this for years. It’s the Thread of Doom, medical edition.

    Dotty’s not here anymore, so Tel has subbed on for him.

  154. Knuckle Dragger

    candysock, 9.48;

    ‘Business needs to trade, and trade is China.’

    I was going to reply to this excremental performance, until I remembered candy was – well, a bit socky.

  155. Infidel Tiger

    Tel is having his Skan-kee-ho moment.

    Let’s enjoy.

  156. Bruce in WA

    Everyone was extremely relieved to hear international flights are stopping.

    Globalism is over.

    Anyone who holidays outside Australia in the next 5 years should be shamed and beaten. That’s also on my recovery list.

    Fuck off you stupid xunt! What drivel to post on a supposedly adult forum. You’ve gone from amusingly quirky to total f*ckwit!

  157. Armadillo

    Was talking to a mate of mine today who is a meat wholesaler, he predicted below 40. His business has more than doubled.

    Tell us more, mOnts. I’m assuming you had an in depth conversation about the drought and the fact that plenty of farmers were forced to de-stock. What’s the inside info on cattle sales?

    Meat wholesalers are absolute gurus when it comes to predicting international currency markets. If anyone knows about that sort of stuff, it’s the meat wholesalers.

    I’m now committed to asking my local butcher about the international bond market. He’s probably “in the know”.

  158. DrBeauGan

    Show me how you know that?

    Don’t resort to fraud or bluff, put forward a logical argument, using sources and real information. Where did the virus originate? Explain it.

    Look at the case numbers in different location over time. It clearly started in Wuhan.

  159. egg_

    Yeah good increases in SSD but academic if not matched by graphics card bandwidth and CPU power.

    The new Dell laptop screens have excellent colour and contrast, and even onboard graphics resolution is great, if a bit slow for gaming.

  160. Porter

    Death of tourism ‘small price to pay’

    Tasmania’s extraordinary nation-first move to force all arrivals into 14 day self-isolation has won almost universal backing.

    1 HOUR AGO  By MATTHEW DENHOL

    they all live on welfare anyway. Should just cut the welfare.

  161. Snoopy

    A lot of people are going to be suffering mortgage stress. A family only needs one home. Any families with more than one residential property should have all other than their principal place of residence nationalised at a 60% discount to add to the stock of social housing.

    Monty?

  162. Siltstone

    Dotty’s not here anymore, so Tel has subbed on for him.

    Where is Dot?

  163. mh

    Australia is now producing surgical masks.

    Small steps.

    MAGA 🇦🇺

  164. Infidel Tiger

    Incredible.

    So many people on social media with fake jobs demanding the economy be shut down and schools closed.

  165. Armadillo

    Last call – tonight’s UK death toll

    99. Bring out the dead. We need to get a winner here.

  166. Knuckle Dragger

    And I missed a smiting.

  167. MatrixTransform

    Going forward, anyone who is unable to explain exactly a) what they make and b) who they make it for will either be unemployed or embarrassed to reveal their job title.

    EbilElvis asked me the other day, and I replied and the spamineater ate it.

  168. Infidel Tiger

    Fuck off you stupid xunt! What drivel to post on a supposedly adult forum. You’ve gone from amusingly quirky to total f*ckwit!

    Feel free to go on a cruise ship.

    Be sure to stick your whole face in the prawns at the buffet.

    Enjoy!

  169. Knuckle Dragger

    Steady on there, Bruce in WA.

    How was your shore leave in Darwin?

    *snicker*

  170. johanna

    Masters of the Universe arguing over things they have no control over. It makes them feel important. Like the old blokes on Lygon Street. Hopefully their dicks are in electrically fuelled pony harness. With fuel injection. Fuel Injection.

    Ask Flo and Eddie, and Uncle Frank.

    Do You Like My New Car?

    Thanks for the recipies, ladies. They are of practical use.
    Night. 🙂

  171. egg_

    It’s the Thread of Doom, medical edition.

    Amen.
    I’m glad it’s going into the National Archives for posterity.

  172. Bruce in WA

    My wife and I are in “voluntary isolation”. We have 4 official days left and have decided to add another 7. Why? Not because of us, but because we don’t anyone else to be concerned about US!

  173. Bruce in WA

    Feel free to go on a cruise ship.

    Be sure to stick your whole face in the prawns at the buffet.

    Enjoy!

    Went on it. NO virus. Don’t eat at the buffet. Dick!

    Steady on there, Bruce in WA.

    How was your shore leave in Darwin?

    *snicker*

    Oh, how clever! Had none. Didn’t want any … didn’t want to upset people (like you) who had no fucking clue!

  174. egg_

    Look at the case numbers in different location over time. It clearly started in Wuhan.

    Beyond doubt, with the chi nks’ own numbers.

  175. mh

    Armadillo
    #3364957, posted on March 19, 2020 at 11:48 pm
    Last call – tonight’s UK death toll

    99. Bring out the dead. We need to get a winner here.

    If you are saying 99 new deaths, then your number is 203

    Shall I lock it in?

  176. dover_beach

    Look at the case numbers in different location over time. It clearly started in Wuhan.

    Indeed. It’s not called the Wuhan flu/virus for nothing.

  177. Bruce in WA

    Yes, I have been drinking. Yes, I am pissed and pissed off. Like it or lump it, too bad.

  178. Knuckle Dragger

    Jeez Bruce, no need to be a crankypants.

    ‘Had none. Didn’t want any’

    Maybe if you hadn’t gone on the cruise ship you wouldn’t be so upset.

  179. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Like it or lump it, too bad.’

    That’s what the Port of Darwin and Department of Ag people said when they boarded.

  180. Bruce in WA

    Jeez Bruce, no need to be a crankypants.

    ‘Had none. Didn’t want any’

    Maybe if you hadn’t gone on the cruise ship you wouldn’t be so upset.

    Yes, there is a definite need. FFS, this is a total waste of time and effort. See you later.

  181. Armadillo

    Shall I lock it in?

    Take off 3 for the coffin scratchers. There’s always a few of them.

  182. egg_

    Tasmania’s extraordinary nation-first move to force all arrivals into 14 day self-isolation has won almost universal backing.

    The pollie at the dais was waving his arms around more than the signer – Eyetye?

  183. Bruce in WA

    That’s what the Port of Darwin and Department of Ag people said when they boarded.

    They NEVER boarded. The best they did, onshore, was scan our passports … wearing gloves and masks … and say “to the gate straight ahead sir”. Total bullshit.

  184. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    My wife and I are in “voluntary isolation”. We have 4 official days left and have decided to add another 7. Why? Not because of us, but because we don’t anyone else to be concerned about US!

    You O.K, Bruce? Us Sandgropers have to stick together…

  185. Infidel Tiger

    Masked Mao Balding 大老板
    @BaldingsWorld
    Since I am going to spend the day working on something else, let’s toss a hand grenade into the Twitter fox hole and then walk away. The number of actual cases of corona virus are likely underestimated by at least a factor 3. This has all kinds of implications but let’s 1/n

    https://mobile.twitter.com/BaldingsWorld/status/1240441580579741696

    Great thread.

  186. Bruce in WA

    Apologies to all Cats … am pissed and a bit stressed. I’ll be my happy, complete serf again tomorrow.

  187. mh

    139 mh
    147 MT
    164 Siltstone
    171 EvilElvis
    138 Egg (the strategist)
    200 Armadillo

    Final field.

  188. Bruce in WA

    You O.K, Bruce? Us Sandgropers have to stick together…

    Thank you mate. We are doing OK. If we don’t strangle each other first, we’ll be fine 😀 Elder daughter and Qantas Wines doing us fine.

  189. egg_

    Bruce in WA
    #3364981, posted on March 20, 2020 at 12:02 am

    Good news, hope the trip went well.

  190. egg_

    johanna
    #3364802, posted on March 19, 2020 at 10:33 pm

    Thanks for the evening’s cheer.

  191. Armadillo

    almost universal backing.

    WTF does that even mean? Who didn’t back it? The Martians?

  192. Infidel Tiger

    You are one of the good ones Bruce.

    Relax! We all soon be dead or homeless anyway.

  193. DrBeauGan

    You O.K, Bruce? Us Sandgropers have to stick together…

    Hang in there, Bruce in WA.

  194. EvilElvis

    EbilElvis asked me the other day, and I replied and the spamineater ate it.

    That’s what they all say, Matrix! 😂

  195. stackja

    Gough cut tariffs and we imported cheap goods from Red China. What could possibly go wrong?

  196. EvilElvis

    FMD, did Johanna’s last post read like she’s possessed by Tailgunner??

  197. Bruce in WA

    Thank you, everyone. Wife and I are pretty austere, but no complaints whatsoever. People are FAR worse off than we are. Good night.

  198. Mitch M.

    johanna
    #3364963, posted on March 19, 2020 at 11:50 pm
    Masters of the Universe arguing over things they have no control over. It makes them feel important. Like the old blokes on Lygon Street. Hopefully their dicks are in electrically fuelled pony harness. With fuel injection. Fuel Injection.

    Ask Flo and Eddie, and Uncle Frank.

    Do You Like My New Car?

    Tonight I was pricing second hand Honda 600Fs(carbs) and Suzuki SV650(fuel injection). Both excellent motorcycles with different power characteristics. Many around with low mileage and good prices. In my day you bought a motorcycle and it was your means of transport, only using the car for rainy days etc. In these days most seem to buy motorcycles for the weekend ride and as a great toy, there are plenty of good second hand bikes around. So tempting but I keep thinking that I’m too old for that. And then I look out the window at the hills over yonder, the beautiful country and the open road. I still miss those country rides. It was my therapy but only if I rode alone.

  199. Knuckle Dragger

    And he brought the troops home.

  200. DrBeauGan

    Relax! We all soon be dead or homeless anyway.

    I don’t have either to look forward to. But I’m not going back to Cuba for two years. At least. I’m planning on staying with my sister in Queensland this winter.

  201. Infidel Tiger

    Low AUD. So what?

    It’s a useful barometer of what the world thinks of our economy.

  202. stackja

    Does Germany still have open borders?

  203. stackja

    IT – Too many windmills? Alex selling?

  204. egg_

    Yes, my little Filipina friend has recently endured a volcanic eruption and a lockdown, but the sky hasn’t fallen yet – they’re a chipper bunch of stoic survivors.

  205. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Thanks Helen, Calli and Cassie for your kind words here. It is a stressful time to be travelling but also fascinating to be here. We are missing home of course and home to fly back on Monday from LAX.

    Meanwhile, my lovely 98 year old aunt awaits our visit today, apparently quite excited about seeing her sister’s daughter again. The two other sisters are long deceased. They all grew up during the bleak depression in the coalmine villages of South Wales.

    Gotta get to Miami Airport soon. Over and out.

    IT’s comment backthread re my comments here confirms to me that IT is a bitter old woman and that I have better things to do right now than suffer these sorts of verbal attacks from the usual suspects. They owe me an apology.

  206. mh

    They have added 4 new deaths to the UK total, now 108.

    Not sure if it’s a revision to yesterday’s numbers.

    Maybe they weren’t quite dead.

    “I don’t want to go on the cart”

    Anyway, the big numbers are still a few hours away.

  207. Armadillo

    Look at the wider picture. The CCP are pretty much fucked from here on in once the trade and faux prosperity disappears.

    Coronavirus will be minor compared to what may eventually play out. Certainly an Iron Grip, and possibly an Iron Fist.

  208. Knuckle Dragger

    “I don’t want to go on the cart”

    ‘I’m feeling a bit better’

    Hahaaaa.

  209. Armadillo

    They have added 4 new deaths to the UK total, now 108.

    Any Cats know how to hack into the UK electricity grid? A couple of hours of targeted blackouts will comfortably get me to my prediction.

  210. stackja

    Armadillo – Red China people willingly accept a reduction in their living standards to help the party elite?

  211. egg_

    Avoided the Salmon Mousse?

  212. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    IT has already effectively driven Ellie off this site.

    Sheer nastiness towards women is a form of trolling. Especially when it comes from men or socks pretending to be men.

  213. Arky

    Infidel Tiger
    #3364791, posted on March 19, 2020 at 10:26 pm
    Anyone who believes a fully privatised health system is possible in a humane society is off their head.

    We are in this world together. We are not all rugged individuals from some Randian fap book.

    ..
    This is the comment of the century.

  214. Infidel Tiger

    I am a bitter old woman. But only on Thursdays.

  215. JC

    Fuuuck

    Companies are just starting to announce coronavirus-related layoffs, so the real damage probably won’t start showing through until next week’s count, which will entail the period through this Saturday.

    Ian Shepherdson from Pantheon Macroeconomics told CNBC earlier Thursday morning that next week’s total could hit 2 million.

  216. stackja

    NT closed? No more tourism?

  217. Arky

    The CCP are pretty much fucked from here on in

    ..
    They need a new PR company.
    Whoever is advising them is apparently using the Juicy Smollet playbook.

  218. EvilElvis

    It was my therapy but only if I rode alone.

    Mitch M.

    Plenty of bargains to be had. Do it man. You’re never to old. Be realistic about where you’re at and get out there and have fun. I feel sorry for people who’ll never know the clarity of riding a bike. Go for it.

  219. Fisky

    After scanning Twitter for the past couple hours, I can confidently say this:

    1. There is no Leftist opposition of any significance to the government’s Travel Ban. Not even George Megalogenis has bothered to argue how this is truly awful and shows that Australia is damaging its long-term prosperity, etc etc. It is done. Travel Bans are normalised, and immigration restrictionism is now unopposed.
    2. Very little resistance on the Right to the likely economic changes that are coming – nationalisation, forced production, mortgage holidays, etc etc.

    So we are seeing an epochal shift away from globalism and neo-liberalism. It is over. Deal with it!

  220. Snoopy

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #3365014, posted on March 20, 2020 at 12:32 am
    IT has already effectively driven Ellie off this site.

    Sheer nastiness towards women is a form of trolling. Especially when it comes from men or socks pretending to be men.

    IT is a latex sock. With ribs. And a tickler.

  221. mh

    This may help ‘Dillo

    THOUSANDS of Londoners were left without water this morning amid the coronavirus lockdown.

    A pipe burst in south London causing chaos for homes and businesses trying to regularly wash their hands to keep safe from the virus.

  222. stackja

    Wall Street banker seeking new employment opportunities now?

  223. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘NT closed? No more tourism?’

    The Tennant Creek Town Camp Scabies Tour is still open.

  224. Infidel Tiger

    US unemployment is going to hit around 30% by some estimates.

    To give a few thousand octogenarians maybe 6-12 more months.

    This is insanity.

  225. EvilElvis

    And if you’re thinking SV650 just go the V Strom 650. Same bike basically but with some wind protection.

  226. stackja

    mh – London alcohol supply? Spill some on hands and consume the rest?

  227. Snoopy

    This is insanity.

    It’s no more insane than believing, backed by the force of law, that a snip and a dose of hormones can turn a man into a woman.

  228. Infidel Tiger

    30% will be temporary but how many will get that job back?

    This is the greatest social and economic experiment in history.

    I’m dumb as fuck but please remember the poor quality of our experts.

  229. EvilElvis

    And will hit a gravel road a bit better with the right rubber.

  230. EvilElvis

    I don’t want you to feel pressured, Mitch.

  231. Snoopy

    This is the greatest social and economic experiment in history.

    It’s not an experiment. It’s a shift.

  232. Arky

    Where is Dot?

    ..
    Completed 3D printing of resonant cavity EM- drive spaceship and is now boring the inhabitants of Betelgeuse in between calling them statists and telling them to stop lying.

  233. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    And he brought the troops home.

    For chucks steak, does anyone believe all that discredited old bullshit, any more/

  234. Fisky

    China Xinhua News
    @XHNews
    ·
    3m
    Click to find out how Xinjiang migrant workers adapt to their work and local life in inland China

    This is a very sick “news” organisation, and the people who run it deserve to share the fate of Julius Streicher.

  235. Snoopy

    Looking for a motorcycle? Don’t muck around with that Jap crap. Go traditional.

  236. MatrixTransform

    Sheer nastiness towards women is a form of trolling

    women troll themselves

  237. Arky

    A simple way to stop the panic buying in its tracks would be to force Woolies and Coles to do online shopping only.

    ..
    Can’t be done.
    Their online systems don’t handle the load.
    Which is why they shut them down.

  238. Snoopy

    Completed 3D printing of resonant cavity EM- drive spaceship and is now boring the inhabitants of Betelgeuse in between calling them statists and telling them to stop lying.

    This is why I’m here.

  239. Fisky

    China Xinhua News
    @XHNews
    ·
    5m
    Click to find out how Xinjiang migrant workers adapt to their work and local life in inland China

    It is no exaggeration to call this Nazi propaganda. Who on this blog supports the regime that produces this filth? JB from Shanghai for one. Numbers is another. Scum. Filth.

  240. Fisky

    Wow

    China Xinhua News
    @XHNews
    ·
    7m
    Click to find out how Xinjiang migrant workers adapt to their work and local life in inland China

  241. Steve trickler

    I’m calling it. This virus is one of the biggest……



  242. Okay, late night crowd. Rubs hands together. Have the loonies shown up yet?

  243. Mitch M.

    EvilElvis
    #3365020, posted on March 20, 2020 at 12:37 am
    It was my therapy but only if I rode alone.

    Mitch M.

    Plenty of bargains to be had. Do it man. You’re never to old. Be realistic about where you’re at and get out there and have fun. I feel sorry for people who’ll never know the clarity of riding a bike. Go for it.

    And if you’re thinking SV650 just go the V Strom 650. Same bike basically but with some wind protection.

    Thanks EE. I was even looking at leathers and helmets. Perhaps not the best time with winter approaching. Also given the current economic situation there might even be cheaper deals in a few months. Once I reach this point though it tends to mean I’m already committed but just don’t know it yet.

    Yes, the strom seems to be very good.

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