Tuesday Forum: March 17, 2020

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  1. Dr Faustus

    Colesworths appears to have collapsed under the strain. Presumably what happens when just-in-time stocking meets panicked stupid fuckers who normally never stray far from the MacCain frozen pizza cabinet.

    An hour on the phone yesterday found small retailers able to deliver fresh fruit, veggies, meat, dried pasta and groceries. Prices up (but not gouging) plus cost of delivery – but readily available.

  2. calli

    In answer to Rex Mango’s question – Zippy started posting about WuFlu in early January.

    Our masters in government have known since at least then, if not earlier. And appeared to ignore it.

    The reaction now far outweighs the number of cases and fatalities. That poses an interesting question – is there something that we are not being told about this thing? Is it just garden variety bottie covering by pollies with an eye on the next election, or is there a real threat that has not been articulated?

    Meanwhile, on Seven, everyone’s hair appears to be on fire. So I switched to Nine. A much more sensible coverage. A pleasant surprise.

  3. Bruce of Newcastle

    Some new polling numbers over at OANN:

    National Public Opinion Survey Results

    The survey was conducted online by Scott Rasmussen from March 13-15, 2020.

    Open borders people won’t be happy with this data!

  4. NoFixedAddress

    Death Rate by Country per 1.000 population

    Australia at #120 with 7.3 deaths per 1.000 of population.

    Italy at #27 with 10.6 deaths per 1,000 of population

    https://www.indexmundi.com/g/r.aspx?v=26

  5. NoFixedAddress

    But if you really want to see wacked out death rates then check out some of this

    List of countries by infant and under-five mortality rates

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_infant_and_under-five_mortality_rates

  6. NoFixedAddress

    As our very own JC asked the other night on the former OT

    and I’m paraphrasing your words so apologies JC but it is a FKN valid Question.

    How many people have died in the world because resources are focused on climate change and not real issues?

  7. Knuckle Dragger

    Enough about all that, Anne.

    The people want an Oprah update! Has she been bailed yet? Has her body double finished her training or did they have to speed it up because the celebrity antidote was poisoned?

    Have the tunnels been un-excavated?

  8. Mother Lode

    I think after that after this revealing display of fear and panic behaviour that there are a lot of people who have disqualified themselves from mocking preppers.

    It is only a difference of degree, and that likely only due to the recent hoarders being novices.

  9. Knuckle Dragger

    Mr Kim from Norkland was outstanding in the Mid-Week WIP.

    Well worth the price of admission for that one alone.

  10. mh

    UK death lotto result 71

    That was going to be my first pick, then I thought too much about it and went for 77.

  11. Knuckle Dragger

    Stimp, overnight;

    ‘Ex-Catholics are the worst.

    Actually Atheists are the worst.’

    You guys are waaaaaaay off.

    Ex-atheists are THE worst. By a street. Several streets, actually.

  12. Farmer Gez

    As I said yesterday, get your tonic water. Gin as well of course.
    A spoon full of sugar
    Keep it within the Cat family circle.

  13. will

    NoFixedAddress
    #3361605, posted on March 18, 2020 at 7:31 am
    Death Rate by Country per 1.000 population

    Australia at #120 with 7.3 deaths per 1.000 of population.

    Italy at #27 with 10.6 deaths per 1,000 of population

    https://www.indexmundi.com/g/r.aspx?v=26

    Italy is a third world country.

    Prove me wrong.

  14. Twostix

    The reaction now far outweighs the number of cases and fatalities. That poses an interesting question – is there something that we are not being told about this thing? Is it just garden variety bottie covering by pollies with an eye on the next election, or is there a real threat that has not been articulated?

    There’s something so much more than a weak virus going on here.

    The borders are still wide open.

    This is purely politics.

    Remember that if they try and forcefully imprison us all in our homes.

  15. Knuckle Dragger

    struth;

    ‘Lizzie you may have had more side effects than you thought you had if you thought you rode the old Ghan between Darwin and Alice.’

    I was waiting for the anecdote where Lizzie met Sidney Kidman who was riding a horse alongside the Ghan, and who whisked her off to one of his stations where she met Nicole Kidman’s grannie as a baby.

    The she escaped the bombing of Darwin by catching a lift with Hugh Jackman on his magic camel.

    I ror’ed.

  16. mh

    This guy is a moron

    Keeping the number of deaths from coronavirus to less than 20,000 would be a “good outcome” of the Government strategy to battle the pandemic, the UK’s Chief Scientific Adviser has said.

    Sir Patrick Vallance told MPs that even though deaths on this scale would be “horrible” and “enormous”, it was still a hopeful scenario for Government planners.

    ScoMo needs to stop listening to the British.

  17. lotocoti

    Australia
    Total Cases: 452
    New Cases: +51
    Deaths: 5

    Unless the entire population is tested, new and total case numbers are meaningless.

  18. Twostix

    Total cases are probably more like 40000.

    5 deaths.

    What a sick joke this all is.

  19. The Beer Whisperer

    Unless the entire population is tested, new and total case numbers are meaningless.

    True. Case mortality rate is useful only to the medical profession. It tells them what percentage of their patients are likely to die. Those with coronavirus not tested are not included.

  20. Anne

    Tweet from @EntheosShines to @Project_Veritas

    We just sent you Hillary Clintons 55k missing emails

    Yes. Those Emails.

    Make us proud

    I’ll be watching for that one!

  21. Twostix

    Who else is perma moderated now?

    Hmmmmmm

  22. Knuckle Dragger

    People keep insisting that Big Tech will save them.

    Bet your bottom dollar there have, over time, been Christ knows how many people that died in rural and remote Australia from diseases we haven’t even identified yet.

    But for the sake of clearing the decks, they’re almost all recorded as:
    Pneumonia;
    Kidney failure;
    Heart failure, and the catch all;
    Misadventure.

    Thinking that we know everything is responsible for countless deaths in one way or another.

  23. Geriatric Mayfly

    “Chile strands 73 Aussie doctors aboard cruise ship

    Presume they remember their provider numbers and have access to a Medibank credit facility, as they rush to cure one another.

  24. Knuckle Dragger

    Unless you come good with some Oprah updates Anne, your cred’s looking a bit shaky.

    Just sayin’.

    Emails are so 2014. I for one want Oprah tunnel action.

  25. Bruce of Newcastle

    It’s the Express so take it with a 40 kg bag of salt, but the finding is interesting if real:

    Coronavirus latest: People with THIS blood type are more vulnerable to the disease

    Experts in China have found that people with blood type A are more vulnerable to the strain of coronavirus, whereas people with type O seem to be more resistant. After analysing the blood patterns of more than 2,000 infected patients in China, the researchers found that those with type A blood showed a higher rate of infection and developed more severe symptoms. Those with O type tended to experience more mild symptoms from the disease, also called Sars-CoV-2.

    Wang Xinghuan, with the Centre for Evidence-Based and Translational Medicine at Zhongnan Hospital of Wuhan University, stated: “People of blood group A might need particularly strengthened personal protection to reduce the chance of infection.

    “Sars-CoV-2-infected patients with blood group A might need to receive more vigilant surveillance and aggressive treatment.”

    In contrast, “blood group O had a significantly lower risk for the infectious disease compared with non-O blood groups”, according to a paper they published on Medrxiv.org.

    What that means about the microbiology of the Wubug I don’t know. Make of it what you will.

  26. Farmer Gez

    Airlines given a 700 million aid package. The same amount given to drought aid. It took nearly three years for the Feds to do this for Ag and two weeks for the airlines.
    Now which industry is an essential, can’t to without producer.

  27. Leigh Lowe

    Herodotus

    #3361571, posted on March 18, 2020 at 6:31 am

    The BBC just can’t help themselves! More TDS.
    Item: Trump has caused a stir by referring to the Chinese Virus, they said overnight on OS.

    Trump trolling at it’s best.
    He tweets it once.
    MSM go nuts criticising him.
    People who never saw the original tweet now have “Chinese Virus” locked in their heads.

  28. mh

    South Korea had 6 new deaths yesterday taking the total to 81.

    The UK’s Chief Scientific Adviser states that under 20,000 deaths is a good outcome?

    There are public servants with important sounding job titles that are enjoying their time in the sun. The higher the numbers they can pull out of their arse the more important they feel.

  29. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Airlines given a 700 million aid package. The same amount given to drought aid. It took nearly three years for the Feds to do this for Ag and two weeks for the airlines.
    Now which industry is an essential, can’t to without producer.’

    This should be repeated, every ten minutes, on every TV station and in Parliament until these clowns wake up to themselves.

    The spokespantart from Live Performances or something still wants $500 million immediately, and a real leader would declare to the nation by lunchtime today that no-one will be saved by panto and/or interpretative dance, and that consequently the free stuff tap will be turned off.

  30. Rex Mango

    Calli, thanks for that. About to risk my life by going to work and spend half my working day washing the hands. Approx 200 countries in the world and which one has closed the borders before any zombies got in? Is every govt in the world so dumb to lock the gate after the horse has bolted?

    Imagine our Govt had sealed borders had read Zippy’s posts, sealed the borders in early January (I remember them) and we would be sitting pretty, with no stock market crash and business as usual. Few thousand international travellers inconvenienced (my sister included), but not much other problems. Thanks Govt for having zero foresight.

  31. Twostix

    Airlines given a 700 million aid package. The same amount given to drought aid. It took nearly three years for the Feds to do this for Ag and two weeks for the airlines.
    Now which industry is an essential, can’t to without producer.

    This will go down as the biggest plundering since the mongols.

    Myths will be told of how the natives were forcibly locked in their houses while their treasuries and countries were plundered by disloyal internationalist bugmen.

  32. Johno

    Chloroquine was the anti malaria pill we took every day in the country which shall not be named(for fear it summons the sniff) I never heard of anyone having a reaction to it.

  33. calli

    If the Chinese have been treating WuFlu with a suite of drugs including chloroquine and old HIV formulations since December, why is our media hailing the same thing as a “breakthrough” for our researchers?

  34. Anne

    The reaction now far outweighs the number of cases and fatalities. That poses an interesting question – is there something that we are not being told about this thing?

    The Coronavirus Pandemic is a COVER for a worldwide Military Operation to round up the Deep State, Shadow Government controllers who have perpetrated horrific crimes against humanity.

    The curfews, closures and “social distancing” is to reduce the risk of groups being targeted in retaliatory false flag attacks.

    If everything gets cancelled and you have to stay at home and nothing happens, please try to understand: That’s the point.

    #PatriotsAreInControl

  35. NoFixedAddress

    can’t post because the doomlord denies a particular religion/ethnicity but if you check some hag called Rosanna Arquette who looks like it crawled out of harvey’s pot plant she has the CO19 biz figured

    the chooose did it

  36. lotocoti

    Your daily dose of TDS.
    Softcocks or softcucks, you decide.

  37. Rex Mango

    Deputy PM McCormack on radio at moment babbling on about airlines like Qantas going broke. The Govt should nationalise Qantas again and make it part of the RAAF, which will turn 100 years old in 2021.

  38. Leigh Lowe

    If the Chinese have been treating WuFlu with a suite of drugs including chloroquine and old HIV formulations since December, why is our media hailing the same thing as a “breakthrough” for our researchers?

    Take one part fund gouging “researchers” and three parts clueless kiddie j’ism reporters …

  39. NoFixedAddress

    sorry your doomlordship

    just backtracked

  40. calli

    How quickly things change.

    It was only ten days ago that Dr Higgins was huffing and puffing about being identified as a superspreader.

    Ten days before that a group of Australian doctors and dentists hopped on a cruise for a medical junket. At that time, the Diamond Princess had already been quarantined.

    I leave it to Cats to make their own assessment as to the intelligence of our medicos.

  41. Leigh Lowe

    Johno

    #3361642, posted on March 18, 2020 at 8:14 am

    Chloroquine was the anti malaria pill we took every day in the country which shall not be named(for fear it summons the sniff) I never heard of anyone having a reaction to it.

    Not so.
    In rare cases it leaves people repeating the same thing every day for fifty years.

  42. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Qantas going broke’

    Izzy Folau: ‘You’re welcome.’

  43. Mater

    A comment from this article:

    Bus loads of city dwellers stripping regional shelves bare

    Apropos
    At what point did Australia turn into greedy scabs? Me myself and I and bugger the rest of you. Not the old Australia I once knew, where competitors stopped their race to pick up a fallen comrade.

    I can tell you pretty accurately when this “turn” commenced. I can even tell you why.

  44. Leigh Lowe

    One thing not mentioned about the Itie spread of KungFlu is cultural.
    Kissalot, hugalot and have a different concept of personal space.

  45. calli

    In more look-at-me news, Our Magda has decided to self-isolate.

    Now we know the source of the Victorian shelf-stripping plague.

  46. NoFixedAddress

    Leigh Lowe
    #3361652, posted on March 18, 2020 at 8:21 am

    Johno

    #3361642, posted on March 18, 2020 at 8:14 am

    Chloroquine was the anti malaria pill we took every day in the country which shall not be named(for fear it summons the sniff) I never heard of anyone having a reaction to it.

    Not so.
    In rare cases it leaves people repeating the same thing every day for fifty years.

    winner, grinner

  47. List of countries by infant and under-five mortality rates

    Check the figures.
    The US infant mortality rate is almost twice ours.
    Is that what MAGA means?
    If so, they can stick it.

  48. NoFixedAddress

    Knuckle Dragger
    #3361653, posted on March 18, 2020 at 8:22 am

    ‘Qantas going broke’

    Izzy Folau: ‘You’re welcome.’

    lol

  49. NoFixedAddress

    1735099
    #3361659, posted on March 18, 2020 at 8:26 am

    List of countries by infant and under-five mortality rates

    Check the figures.
    The US infant mortality rate is almost twice ours.
    Is that what MAGA means?
    If so, they can stick it.

    so your for or against abortion jellybean?

    and I appreciate there are 2 questions

  50. custard

    Anyone got any idea how much the government wastes on the Climate Change Hoax every day? Would be nice to remind people of the amount wasted on a hoax vs a real health issue.

  51. Leigh Lowe

    I can tell you pretty accurately when this “turn” commenced. I can even tell you why.

    Mmmyes.
    The commentary about “mateship dying” and “Australia turning into something” else implies that good old whitebread Australians have morphed into something else.
    Look at FB local pages for a description of bus passengers.

  52. Knuckle Dragger

    Okay. If you people insist on hoarding and making your own stills for grog, you might as well do it right.

    Recipe for Blue Fizz*
    1 x bottle aftershave, not less than 100ml – brand choice according to taste
    1 x 375ml can Coke – not Pepsi, not cola, not fucking Woodstock and cola bespoke – Coca-Cola.

    1. Ensure can of Coke is cold. And I mean ice cold. Cool or tepid will not do.
    2. Open can of Coke. Skoll 1/3 of can immediately.
    3. While brain freeze is still occurring, tip entire bottle of aftershave into can.
    4. Swirl/mix with sharpened toothbrush or preferred implement.
    5. Skoll remainder of can.
    6. Avoid others for six hours, as you’ll be completely off your tits.

    *Copyright HM Barwon Prison 2001, 2005, 2009, 2014. Reprinted by Stook Publications 2020.

  53. Anne

    I can tell you pretty accurately when this “turn” commenced. I can even tell you why.

    Go ahead, Mater.

  54. Caveman

    COV19 attacks the lungs and Australia has one of the highest rates of asthma. The bushfires may have also attributed to increase in respiratory problems.
    Countries with highest asthma

  55. egg_

    Unless the entire population is tested, new and total case numbers are meaningless.

    True. Case mortality rate is useful only to the medical profession. It tells them what percentage of their patients are likely to die. Those with coronavirus not tested are not included.

    Testing/reporting lags probably explain the large jump in Italy’s numbers overnight.

  56. so your (sic) for or against abortion jellybean?

    The abortion rate in Oz is 19.7 per 1000.
    In the US it is 11.6 per 1000, although likely under reported.

    Which has absolutely nothing to do with the statistical rate of infant mortality in both countries.
    Your grammar is on a par with your reasoning capacity.

  57. Dr Faustus

    One Belt One Road delivers the goods:

    Iran And Italy Are Paying A Hefty Price For Close Ties With Communist China

    Almost exactly a year ago in March 2019, against warnings from the EU and the United States, Italy became the first and only G7 country to sign onto OBOR. As part of the deal, Italy opened an array of sectors to Chinese investment, from infrastructure to transportation, including letting Chinese state-owned companies hold a stake in four major Italian ports.

    Lombardy and Tuscany are the two regions that saw the most Chinese investment. Nearly a year later, the first Wuhan coronavirus infection case in Italy was reported in the Lombardy region on Feb. 21.

    China Railway Engineering Corp. is building a $2.7 billion high-speed rail line through Qom. Chinese technicians have been helping refurbish a nuclear-power plant nearby.” Iranian medical professionals suspect either Chinese workers in Qom or an Iranian businessman who travelled to China from Qom caused the spread of the coronavirus in Qom.

    Chinese pandemic.

  58. Cassie of Sydney

    “NoFixedAddress
    #3361646, posted on March 18, 2020 at 8:18 am
    can’t post because the doomlord denies a particular religion/ethnicity but if you check some hag called Rosanna Arquette who looks like it crawled out of harvey’s pot plant she has the CO19 biz figured

    the chooose did it”

    But of course…..oh well…even here on the Cat we are lucky enough to have one or two commentators who would also believe that. I’m just waiting for the Toowoomba Turd to blame it on us Joooos poisoning wells…..can’t wait for him to link to some Al Jazeera or ABC site “reporting”….cough, cough, cough…..that IDF soldiers are deliberately spreading the virus at the Gaza/Israel border by breathing on poor Pallie women.

  59. Leigh Lowe

    In more look-at-me news, Our Magda has decided to self-isolate.

    Translation:-

    I have no work.
    I have no friends.
    I have chips and chocolate and Netflix.

  60. Knuckle Dragger

    Liability Bob’s Greatest Hits:

    ‘WTF is ammo?’

  61. NoFixedAddress

    custard
    #3361662, posted on March 18, 2020 at 8:30 am

    Anyone got any idea how much the government wastes on the Climate Change Hoax every day? Would be nice to remind people of the amount wasted on a hoax vs a real health issue.

    Alan Moran or Rafe Champion are your go to folk Custard for actual tax theft.

    But back of the envelope type stuff is the cost of 70% of Federal, Commonwealth, State and Local gubmint folk and include funded and unfunded ‘super’

  62. min

    What type of people go on overseas holidays when there is a a virus spreading that we do not know too much about. Risk takers or narcissosts who don’t care a stuff about others?
    Never fear we are all saved the pope has just put a good word in for us at the plague church in Rome.

  63. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘IDF soldiers are deliberately spreading the virus at the Gaza/Israel border by breathing on poor Pallie women’

    No, Cassie. No, no, no. Wake up to yourself.

    The IDF don’t breathe on the Pallytarts. They make them – MAKE them, mind you – drink bleach.

    We know this to be true, because an aspiring doctor said so.

  64. Magic Bronson

    “COV19 attacks the lungs and Australia has one of the highest rates of asthma. The bushfires may have also attributed to increase in respiratory problems.
    Countries with highest asthma”

    It may not be as much of a risk factor as it may seem to be. Pneumonia is known to relieve asthma believe it or not. Do we have information on Covid 19 hurting younger people with asthma? If we find that young asthma sufferers have been unduly affected just regard this as a minor point. One doesn’t want to be engaging in happy talk.

  65. Mater

    Go ahead, Mater.

    Ok, I’ll start with why.
    Because people like ‘Our Bob’ hated “old Australia” and decided to turn it into something else.

    The How:
    They did so by dividing it into specific individual identities and then import constituents for those groups that they thought were lacking.
    They imported at such a rate that the traditional method of ‘assimilating’ the new arrivals into the theory of ‘mateship’, was completely overwhelmed. To them, this was a feature, not a bug.

  66. Stimpson J. Cat

    Ex-atheists are THE worst. By a street. Several streets, actually.

    I was trying not scare or alarm anyone in these trying times.

    Actually Women are the worst.

    😂

  67. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Actually Women are the worst.’

    And ex-women worse again.

  68. Stimpson J. Cat

    What type of people go on overseas holidays when there is a a virus spreading that we do not know too much about.

    White People or Illegal Immigrants.
    Tell me I’m wrong.

  69. NoFixedAddress

    1735099
    #3361668, posted on March 18, 2020 at 8:38 am

    so your (sic) for or against abortion jellybean?

    The abortion rate in Oz is 19.7 per 1000.
    In the US it is 11.6 per 1000, although likely under reported.

    Which has absolutely nothing to do with the statistical rate of infant mortality in both countries.
    Your grammar is on a par with your reasoning capacity.

    Jellybean

    Are you for ‘State’ sponsored abortion?

  70. Tel

    Be on the look out for symptoms of the Australian mind virus:

    * I don’t need to prepare for any unusual situation, because looking after me is the job of other people.

    * I ignore any suggestion of problems because thinking about such things makes me uncomfortable.

    * When something does go wrong, I always look for someone else to blame … regardless of how many opportunities I had earlier to avoid this problem.

    * When another person has what I want, I call them “selfish” and demand gimme gimme.

    * It’s never my fault!

    * Somebody must do something!!

    * We are all in this together … so be a “real man” and go fix it for me.

    If you see someone infected, please keep your distance. Cure is difficult and the victims often turn violent when confronted with their own inadequacy. This has been a public health announcement.

  71. Cassie of Sydney

    “Chinese pandemic.”

    Yep…and it needs to be called out for what it is.

  72. Mater

    They did so by dividing it into specific individual identities and then import constituents for those groups that they thought were lacking.

    You can’t ferment Class Warfare within a tight knit community.

  73. Knuckle Dragger

    nota/NFA, 6.24;

    ‘Another 345 deaths overnight and 2060 on the critical list.’

    ‘how many native Italians have died?’

    This is actually an interesting question. Bet it won’t be answered though.

  74. Boambee John

    IT

    The Americans will have the cure already. The FDA and CDC are probably preventing it from being released knowing how bureaucracy works.

    It’s a matter of priorities. The CDC has recently been focuseing on more important matters, such as fighting racism and obesity. (This is not a joke!)

    Still, the supermarket problem might assist with the obesity. Not many calories in a bog roll!

  75. Morsie

    Both Italy and Iran are signatories to One Belt One Road.We can probably expect cases to spoke in Victoria

  76. lotocoti

    FFS.
    Who said Biggie Smalls three times?

  77. Gab

    Why are international flights still being allowed into Australia? We’re an island and should be relatively safe from the chinese panda virus provided the country stops letting internal flights in! FFS it’s not that difficult to work out. Way back in early Feb I was lamenting this government’s decision to keep allowing Chinese students back into the country and not preventing flights to China. Morons.

  78. NoFixedAddress

    Tel
    #3361683, posted on March 18, 2020 at 8:48 am

    Be on the look out for symptoms of the Australian mind virus:

    Tel

    That is a classic for the ages.

    Well done and am spreading it.

  79. feelthebern

    Eric Weinstein piece.
    With contribution from Taleb.

    https://threader.app/thread/1239828197291646976

  80. Tom

    Dear Leader (SloMo) to address his adoring subjects on the televish at 0900.

  81. 1735099

    Are you for “State sponsored abortion”?

    If you are a regular on this site you’ll recall I’m not “for” abortion, state sponsored or not.
    But nor do I tell others how they should live their lives.
    And this is a “Libertarian” blog?
    You’ve got to be kidding.

  82. Leigh Lowe

    It’s a matter of priorities. The CDC has recently been focuseing on more important matters, such as fighting racism and obesity. (This is not a joke!)

    No, not a joke.
    The CMO’s in Australia are a product of 20 years of nanny-lecturing on the health effects of smoking, sugar, red meat and climate change.
    I’ll bet half of them can’t even spell “influenza”.

  83. min

    After reading comments on Facebook I now know why there has been a pandemic apparently emanating from a certain country. See just how important Climate Change is now so is it better to be noted for a virus or emissions?

  84. NoFixedAddress

    Knuckle Dragger
    #3361686, posted on March 18, 2020 at 8:50 am

    nota/NFA, 6.24;

    ‘Another 345 deaths overnight and 2060 on the critical list.’

    ‘how many native Italians have died?’

    This is actually an interesting question. Bet it won’t be answered though.

    KD

    It should be asked though.

    Particularly as the area with greatest number of deaths is an Italian Chin slave shop.

    Some of those old eyeties are tough old bastards

  85. struth

    International flights are still coming in because your government is trying to scare the freedom out of you and is saying one thing while doing another.

  86. Twostix

    From the horses mouth that shelves are empty in UK midlands as well.

    Particularly toilet paper.

    Don’t believe the divisive media mockers lying that this is an silly Australian only thing. They’re saying that exact same thing to poms.

    The western everyman feels something in the air.

  87. Porter

    So Catholic schools are breaking ranks, getting hysterical and demanding a shut down. I would say that teachers in Catholic schools- a bigger bunch of leftist droids you will never find.

  88. 1735099

    What kind of people go on overseas holidays….

    Lots of young people looking for adventure.
    It’s a rite of passage.
    My daughter left Oz in June last year, and has been working and travelling in the UK and Europe since.
    Her job is now in jeopardy, and options to return are disappearing.

  89. Leigh Lowe

    Dear Leader (SloMo) to address his adoring subjects on the televish at 0900.

    Urging us to remain calm, no doubt.

  90. Knuckle Dragger

    Serious question, as there isn’t an Aldi in Darwin.

    How much are MM2 Humungus masks, and can I get them online?

  91. Leigh Lowe

    Her job is now in jeopardy, and options to return are disappearing.

    That’s what she tells you, at least.
    Probably in hiding in Brissy.
    Who could blame her?

  92. mh

    Dr Faustus
    #3361669, posted on March 18, 2020 at 8:40 am
    One Belt One Road delivers the goods:

    Iran And Italy Are Paying A Hefty Price For Close Ties With Communist China

    Further, because of the economic ties the OBOR countries didn’t close their borders to the Chinese when it had to be done.

  93. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘It’s a rite of passage.’

    Not in a fucking pandemic it’s not.

  94. NoFixedAddress

    1735099
    #3361694, posted on March 18, 2020 at 8:58 am

    Are you for “State sponsored abortion”?

    If you are a regular on this site you’ll recall I’m not “for” abortion, state sponsored or not.
    But nor do I tell others how they should live their lives.
    And this is a “Libertarian” blog?
    You’ve got to be kidding.

    Jellybean

    Are you against “State sponsored abortion”?

  95. dover_beach

    If you are a regular on this site you’ll recall I’m not “for” abortion, state sponsored or not.
    But nor do I tell others how they should live their lives.

    Very funny. Numbers takes a Douglasite position. I am not for the moral enormity of abortion (Douglas, slavery) but I do not ‘tell others how they should live their lives’.

  96. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘That’s what she tells you, at least.
    Probably in hiding in Brissy.’

    Hahahaaa. Fairlie Arrow-style.

    ‘No really Dad, I was kidnapped all that time. That’s why I couldn’t be your practice speech audience.’

  97. Leigh Lowe

    This is actually an interesting question. Bet it won’t be answered though.

    The bell will go off when they report them as “residents of Italy” (not citizens) or “probable country of first infection”.

  98. Magic Bronson

    “International flights are still coming in because your government is trying to scare the freedom out of you and is saying one thing while doing another.”

    Thats a pretty good point. You cannot normalise lockdowns, destroy small business and scare everyone, if you don’t actually have a growing problem. The idea could be to block the virus in high profile ways but keep it spreading by various acts of negligence.

  99. Twostix

    The City of Casey could be without democratically elected representatives for the next five years after the State Government passed legislation to sack the council and install administrators until 2024.

    The bugman class speaks:

    “Our view is that democratic representation on council needs to be delayed for an extended period of time in order for the administrators to do their job.”

    Careful, aussie.

  100. shatterzzz

    I’ve realised that at 72 I might be in danger from Bat Flu but to be quite honest I think I’m more in danger of dying of a broken heart reading all the sob stories and imaginary hardship being ramped up by the media.
    I mean the very uncaring way Bat Flu has targetted not only the small folk but the so called celebrity & twitterati set .. it, it’s just not fair! Here we have the privileged who are used to being waited on hand and foot having to suffer the indignity of self isolation and …….. being waited on hand and foot ..
    Even the Chicoms are entitled to be upset .. I mean President Trump tweeting the Chinese Flu originated in China much to the annoyance of the Chinese .. how unfair can you get .. everyone knows that Wuhan is somewhere near the Simpson Desert.
    And you would have thought that even the msm and it’s over-the-top glee would have grasped that a lot of us are wiped away with more lurid accounts of the horrors of throne room aisle .. but know if it isn’t the sufferings of the privileged it’s the I’m down to my last 200 rolls, woe is me reporting ……
    Which all goes to prove The Walking Dead is definitely fiction ‘cos anyone suffering throne room friction ain’t capable of surviving a zombie apocalypse!
    And now I’m off for my regular 1km swim before some bright spark decides Bat Flu can swim ………. duuuuuuuuuuuuuuh

  101. Leigh Lowe

    What is the distribution of cases in Italy, North vs South?

  102. 132andBush

    Ok, I’ll start with why.
    Because people like ‘Our Bob’ hated “old Australia” and decided to turn it into something else.

    Spot on.

    Add the stupefying effect of narcissistic social media and hey presto!

  103. Perfidious Albino

    Australian Yartz ‘Industry’ now looking for an $850m handout… LOLGF ‘here’s $10m, spend it wisely’.

  104. mh

    Italy’s ‘Hug A Chinese’ campaign didn’t help.

  105. Leigh Lowe

    Italy’s ‘Hug A Chinese’ campaign didn’t help.

    Mayor of Florence.
    Way to blow up your career, amigo.
    (Do they say ‘amigo’ in Italy? Or is that Austria?)

  106. mh

    Tom
    #3361693, posted on March 18, 2020 at 8:57 am
    Dear Leader (SloMo) to address his adoring subjects on the televish at 0900.

    If he has the CMO next to him talking about 50,000 deaths then ScoMo must be replaced.

  107. Cassie of Sydney

    Just got back from IGA…..the supermarket is crowded. I did manage to buy some crumpets and toilet paper! I feel blessed……I will give the toilet paper to my sister…who has been unable to buy any. At the IGA…..no meat….empty fridge shelves…no pasta…..and now there is a run on butter.

  108. struth

    While pissed off at me pointing out that a) Italy always has a huge flu death rate anyway and b) it’s a socialist bog hole owned by and now partly populated by Chinese. …..she attributes others loony conspiracy theories to me, so weak is her argument.
    Are we all noticing that our left wing media are only giving you what they want to give you.
    To panic you.
    Here’s another fact.
    Unless everyone has been tested then percentage of fatalities is a joke.
    All this shit is going to get Trump angry.
    He is giving us hints.
    “We are at war with the hidden” etc.

  109. Knuckle Dragger

    Scam alert.

    The Auslan chick next to the PM took a break for almost three sentences.

    Clearly, this is a rort of the first order.

  110. Dave in Marybrook

    China, Iran, Italy, Spain…
    My tip is, Wuhan Flu will be worst in countries where they tend to crowd around the serving window, with big gesticulations and arguments. This goes for populations where the poor proles have to mob the food trucks, and derroes who battle over the bog roll panic.
    For polite Brit types who queue and mutter under their breaths, it’s just another ‘flu season.

  111. I’m starting to get a little suspicious about the difference in the shape of the graphs for new cases in China vs the world.
    Almost as if there are two viruses – one to portray China as a victim like the rest of us, and another more communicable and deadlier one for us. – even allowing for the two week delay between China and Us.

  112. Knuckle Dragger

    The most sensible thing anyone’s ever said.

    If you’re in a taxi or Uber, sit in the back seat.

    Like anyone’s ever enjoyed sitting in the front seat.

  113. NoFixedAddress

    shatterzzz
    #3361714, posted on March 18, 2020 at 9:09 am

    I’ve realised that at 72 I might be in danger from Bat Flu but to be quite honest I think I’m more in danger of dying of a broken heart reading all the sob stories and imaginary hardship being ramped up by the media.

    shatterzzz

    great commentary

    well done

  114. mh

    Is SloMo putting timeframes on any of these shutdowns?

    If not he must be replaced.

  115. Magic Bronson

    Italy had broken from the rest of the European Union and signed onto the Chinese one belt one road initiative. But if we don’t want to take a conspiracy approach it turns out that most of the places with very fast spread rates (Wuhan, parts of Iran, north Italy, parts of the US like Washington and Seattle) had similar heat and humidity patterns for the month of February. This virus seems to take off when it hits the right temperatures but only spread very slowly, and usually due to international travel, when it doesn’t have those conditions to work with. A lot of our current shutdowns may prove a bit pointless but on the other hand winter is coming. And the virus should spread like the December fires, when it comes.

  116. Johno

    For Canberra Cats. IGA at DFO have plenty of everything. Wife and daughter went shopping there yesterday and everything, except TP, was normal.They got rice,pasta,biscuits, meat and tissues. I went to Woolworths at Majura and it was chaos, no frozen veges,pasta, rice etc. The meat section was bare, no mince,sausages,bacon,pork. In the corner of the display I saw three trays of scotch fillet.When I took them the meat section was completely empty.

  117. NoFixedAddress

    Cassie of Sydney
    #3361722, posted on March 18, 2020 at 9:19 am

    Just got back from IGA…..the supermarket is crowded. I did manage to buy some crumpets

    phrasing

  118. Knuckle Dragger

    The most sensible thing anyone’s ever said.

    If you’re in a taxi or oooober, sit in the back seat.

    Like anyone’s ever enjoyed sitting in the front seat.

  119. Cassie of Sydney

    “mh
    #3361718, posted on March 18, 2020 at 9:12 am
    Italy’s ‘Hug A Chinese’ campaign didn’t help.”

    And has anyone heard a peep from that grotesque race pimp…..aka Timmy Souphalfarse?

  120. Knuckle Dragger

    The most sensible thing anyone’s ever said.

    If you’re in a tak-C or oooober, sit in the back seat.

    Like anyone’s ever enjoyed sitting in the front seat.

    *Three goes, that took me, before I realised the new spaminator pogrom was in effect.

  121. lotocoti

    I’m starting to get a little suspicious about the difference in the shape of the graphs for new cases in China vs the world.

    I think accepting any data from the PRC would be … unsound.

  122. NoFixedAddress

    struth
    #3361723, posted on March 18, 2020 at 9:19 am
    …………
    Here’s another fact.
    Unless everyone has been tested then percentage of fatalities is a joke.
    All this shit is going to get Trump angry.
    He is giving us hints.
    “We are at war with the hidden” etc.

    phase 5

  123. Magic Bronson

    The Dutch are taking a radically different approach. They are isolating ONLY their population of an age where fatality is a high risk factor. For everyone under that age group they are trying to get the to harden up, by making them do things like have cod liver oil every day. Hard to know whether this is the best approach. But they face almost no economic cost from this.

  124. Infidel Tiger

    We will soon all be bankrupt and dead but ya gotta laugh.

    Euroweenies close all borders between each other.

    How smart is Brexit looking now.

  125. Boambee John

    Given that it would actually be the right thing to do, my judgment is that it is probably fake and the PM is still too gutless to make the call. But what is real in these Baudrillardian times?

    In one of the more dramatic political turnarounds in recent times, in around a month m0nty has gone from an open borders loon to a “lock everyone up” fascist (admittedly, he always had some fascist inclinations)!

    Nothing like a bit of (your own) skin in the game to focus the mind, is there m0nty?

  126. calli

    ScoMo issues a directive to “stop hoarding”. “It is not who we are as a People”.

    Yes, ScoMo, it is. Successive governments have imported a new and distrustful cohort who think it’s perfectly normal.

    Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind.

  127. Twostix

    Can the federal government order a national quarantine?

    It’s abundantly clear that governors and mayors, not the federal government, have the broadest quarantine and isolation authority. That’s because the constitution leaves that kind of police power in the hands of the states.

    —-

    WASHINGTON — The U.S. government is in active talks with Facebook, Google and a wide array of tech companies and health experts about how they can use data gleaned from Americans’ phones to combat the novel coronavirus, including tracking whether people are keeping one another at safe distances to stem the outbreak.

    Anglo central governments want to take power they were never given to order you imprisoned in your homes and ghettos suburbs. Then track your location and compliance by your phone.

    This is an orgy of every nightmare New Class technocratic tyranical policy fantasy gushing forth at once.

    The most dangerous time for free people in one hundred years.

  128. Magic Bronson

    Oh well. Hopefully all this hoarding will mean no shortages come winter, when we really cannot afford for things to go wrong.

  129. Infidel Tiger

    Tom
    #3361693, posted on March 18, 2020 at 8:57 am
    Dear Leader (SloMo) to address his adoring subjects on the televish at 0900.

    Addressing the nation at 6am.

    Way to make secession in WA even more popular.

    Thank god we don’t have this Chinese Virus or we might get upset.

  130. Cassie of Sydney

    “Yes, ScoMo, it is. Successive governments have imported a new and distrustful cohort who think it’s perfectly normal.

    Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind.”

    How funny…that is what I wrote last week..I just used more colourful language.

  131. mh

    Check out the pic that the Tele has used for its Virgin Australia story.

    Noice.

  132. struth

    People in western countries are panicking about a virus that is not going to kill them.
    The facts are that it, like the flu, it is only killing those with one foot in the grave already and as yet has killed sfa compared to the flu…….every year.
    FMD.

  133. Why are international flights still being allowed into Australia? We’re an island …

    We’re an island whose borders are patrolled by various species of shark and crocodile.

  134. NoFixedAddress

    jellybean

    your the only person I know that represents themselves with a number.

    I appreciate your connection with that number but please, I’d rather know you as jellybean, or whatever.

    My daughter Nic traveled to England a month after 9/11.

    what number have you assigned to your daughter?

    Slow down man and live with us

  135. mh

    If anyone watched SloMo, has he closed down poker machine gaming rooms?

  136. dover_beach

    While pissed off at me pointing out that a) Italy always has a huge flu death rate anyway and b) it’s a socialist bog hole

    Wuhan virus is killing 10 times as many as the flu has this last three months, and it’s doing it in the north where hospitals are first class.

  137. Cassie of Sydney

    “and it’s doing it in the north where hospitals are first class.”

    The Italian healthcare system is not first class.

  138. Twostix

    Oh and here cones universal income.

    WASHINGTON—An idea that had little traction just a few days ago—sending direct checks to Americans—is gaining fast momentum as the Trump administration came on board Tuesday.

    Demanded by the New Class so far:
    Unlimited federal power to mass incarcerate populations: check.
    Tracking everyone by their phones: check.
    Universal income: check
    ….
    Borders still wide open? check

    This is a political not medical.

  139. Mother Lode

    From TE last night.

    Rejected comment under Paul Kelly’s article of gloom and doom in the Oz:

    Don’t think so Paul. The cure will be worse than the disease if we shut down everything.

    Would you rather 100,000 die – most of them people who are frail and a year or so from death – or 10,000,000 people lose their houses, livelihood and futures? The number of suicides would top the number dying from the virus.

    Accepted comment under Paul Kelly’s article of gloom and doom in the Oz:

    Don’t think so Paul. The cure will be worse than the disease if we shut down everything.

    I can imagine that the moderators get letters of complaint if a comment is frank enough to make people uncomfortable. There would be screeds denouncing the grim calculus where we weigh lives against quality of life no matter how stark and inevitable. If facing up to the unpleasant hurts, then the unpleasant is ignored.

    Newspapers should stick to telling you what to think, not make you think. Where would it end?

  140. Twostix

    Hasn’t the magical global free market increased supply to meet demand yet?

    Looks like we were sold a pup with this thing.

  141. 132andBush

    People in western countries are panicking about a virus that is not going to kill them.
    The facts are that it, like the flu, it is only killing those with one foot in the grave already and as yet has killed sfa compared to the flu…….every year.
    FMD.

    +1

    To repeat,
    If this country faced a real existential threat it would fold in under three days. (I originally thought five).

  142. Mark A:

    Lame pics, but some I actually like, you be the judge.

    I don’t get the three women photo.

  143. dover_beach

    The Italian healthcare system is not first class

    I qualified it by saying in the North. Lombardy is one of the richest regions in Europe.

  144. struth

    Bullshit dover…see my earlier posts about 4 this morning.
    Look at Italy past flu years.
    They’re always. ..always much higher than anywhere in Europe.
    Apparently they are reporting things are so bad they are dying untreated in the halls………..yet they know it’s corons virus?
    OBOR is killing elderly Italians but most will be the usual oldies in Italy and the flu.
    So what to believe?
    The hospitals in Italy are coping with the numbers and everyone is being tested or they are not coping and therefore not testing.

  145. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Morristeen has apparently shut down all travel to and from this country.

  146. Anne

    Total travel ban out of Australia.

    Every country will be locked down while the criminals are rounded up.

    No escape.

  147. Cassie of Sydney

    “dover_beach
    #3361767, posted on March 18, 2020 at 9:49 am
    The Italian healthcare system is not first class

    I qualified it by saying in the North. Lombardy is one of the richest regions in Europe.”

    So…my mother got sick a few years ago travelling in Italy…she was in Turin. She was appalled at the quality of healthcare.

  148. struth

    Ffs give it a rest Anne.

  149. dover_beach

    So…my mother got sick a few years ago travelling in Italy…she was in Turin. She was appalled at the quality of healthcare.

    What was appalling?

  150. while the criminals are rounded up

    pfft. That could take years to clean out spring street.

  151. Magic Bronson

    “Total travel ban out of Australia.”

    Maybe not such a bad idea. Particularly if it means we can ease up a little with local restrictions until winter.

  152. Old School Conservative

    Interesting topics on the Alan Jones show this morning.
    He was very specific about the statistics which prove the world-wide panic is totally overblown. Low deaths, restricted to only a few countries, low percentages cf population and other viruses. He was really working hard to minimise panic.
    A caller talked about the shortage of truck drivers, and their legally limited working hours, as the key reasons why “surge buying” is not seeing replacement goods on the shelves.
    He also had good mail on M0nty’s prediction of a total shutdown but once he mentioned it the PMs office rang to categorically deny.

  153. Anne

    People in western countries are panicking about a virus that is not going to kill them.
    The facts are that it, like the flu, it is only killing those with one foot in the grave already…

    Nicely put Struth. However it will also, sadly, kill off a lot of BlueCheck people. Wink.

  154. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Sorry – inward bound travel still allowed.

  155. mh

    Tele

    The Prime Minister has urged all Australians to stop hoarding grocery products while ruling out new anti-hoarding laws.

    “I can’t be more blunt about it. Stop it. It is not sensible, it is not helpful and it has been one of the most disappointing things I have seen in Australian behaviour in response to this crisis.

    “That is not who we are as a people. It is not necessary.

    “There is no reason for people to be hoarding supplies in fear of a lock down or anything like this. “

    I don’t have a problem with Australians stockpiling essential products. Trying to make money from other people’s inconvenience I have a problem with. But planning for you and your family’s future is a good thing.

    Buying a couple of months food supply for your family or putting money through the pokies? Which is the more disappointing to government?

  156. Infidel Tiger

    Italy has one Europe’s worst health systems and its oldest population. It’s a broken country that just stumbles onward.

    It’s also packed to gunnels with Celestial Filth Bombs.

    Surprised they are doing so well really.

  157. Old School Conservative

    I don’t get the three women photo.

    Woman on the right.
    T-Shirt design.

  158. MatrixTransform

    What game are you in Matrix?

    a strange mix of electrical and electronical and programmatical stuff that keeps buildings running.

    We are the magical invisible pixies that make sure yr highrise foyer is 22.8°C
    We send the email to let somebody know that the lift well is full of water and the pump has failed
    We program the machinery that moves energy into or out of your building

    apart from the installing and commissioning and fixing bits much of this can be done via the interwebs
    Which is why I’m permanently attached to the computer.

    We cook your meals, we haul your trash, we connect your calls, we drive your ambulances, we guard you while you sleep….do not f**k with us!!
    -Tyler D

  159. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I don’t get the three women photo.

    Lady on the right, T- Shirt logo in close proximity to the lady in the centre – or maybe I just have a low and depraved mind…..

  160. struth

    Government in Italy is a currupt socialist joke as it is in Australia.
    The difference between the two countries is that the Italians ignore it while Australians faithfully adhere to it.
    Italy’s flu season regularly wipes out sometimes up to 40 PERCENT hospitalised.
    Thousands dead.
    Nearly all very elderly.
    As expected.
    Business as usual.
    This is just reality.
    The frail and elderly w o g s catch w o g s and die.
    Now they are catching a different one……

  161. Anne

    Televised address by Irish President:

    “The calm before The Storm. Before the purge. And when it comes…and it will come, never will so many ask so much of so few.”

  162. stackja

    I have not needed to leave my Sydney suburb for a year.
    What’s wrong about staying home and reading a book?

  163. mh

    Next thing Australians will be wanting a reliable energy system to ensure safe storage of all that food.

    Australians might even conclude that wind and solar isn’t reliable. Wrongthink!

  164. Dr Faustus

    After weeks of panic buying and resupply chaos, dim-bulb Anastasia Palaszczuk realises that Queensland’s heavily restricted trading hours might be a slight problem:

    COVID-19 panic buying prompts new laws so Queensland supermarkets can restock all hours

    Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk said she understood people were stressed by the spread of coronavirus and that a reprieve was days away.

    “The message is clear — you do not need to panic buy or unnecessarily stockpile products,” she said.

    With that much clarity it’s hard to understand why the ‘ low-trust’ section of the community is on a rampage

  165. Infidel Tiger

    I qualified it by saying in the North. Lombardy is one of the richest regions in Europe.

    It still has a third world health system.

    Even in Lombardy there are hospitals without aircon etc. lots of horror stories about the standard of care and hospital conditions online.

    The US has 30 ICU beds per 100,000.

    Italy has 7.

  166. JC

    Annie!

    You’re borrowing from JFK now? Good for you and nice to see you back.

  167. twostix

    “I can’t be more blunt about it. Stop it. It is not sensible, it is not helpful and it has been one of the most disappointing things I have seen in Australian behaviour in response to this crisis.

    Ok boomer.

  168. Mark A

    Winston Smith
    #3361765, posted on March 18, 2020 at 9:48 am

    Mark A:

    Lame pics, but some I actually like, you be the judge.

    I don’t get the three women photo.

    Once you see it you cannot unsee it.

    T shirt of woman on right.

  169. Magic Bronson

    “Sorry – inward bound travel still allowed.”

    Sort of defeats the purpose. What is the point of the exercise?

  170. lotocoti

    Talk about a low cost initiative.
    The Grik government: All tax and social insurance obligations are temporarily suspended.

  171. struth

    Is that correct? .
    To stop Kung Flu Sco Mo has banned leaving the country but not inbound?

  172. min

    Well Numbers I asked about those travelling when there was a virus threat not those who have been working overseas . Not reading properly or not understanding something is a problem for many , listening also as exhibited by some of the stupid questions asked by so called journalists.

  173. stackja

    Summary: What the PM has announced

    David Campbell
    Here’s a summary of what the PM announced at today’s press conference.

    * Australians have been ordered not to travel overseas, level four travel bans have been introduced for all countries.
    * The federal government has banned all non-essential indoor gatherings of more than 100 people.
    * A ban on outdoor gatherings of more than 500 people remains in place. * Further measures on indoor gatherings of less than 100 people are being worked through by the states and territories.
    * 20,000 student nurses have had their work restrictions lifted and will be engaged to help respond to the pandemic.
    * A human biosecurity emergency has been declared.
    * Australia’s most senior health advisors are encouraging schools to remain open.
    * Unwell visitors or people returning from overseas will be barred from going to aged care facilities.
    * Only short visits to such facilities will be allowed, with a maximum of two people once a day.
    * No visiting school groups of any size will be allowed.
    * People are being encouraged to sit in the back seats of taxis and stay at least 1.5 metres away from others.
    * All overseas Anzac Day ceremonies and most domestic services have been cancelled, with the Australian War Memorial to broadcast a national dawn service that will be closed to the public.
    * Australia’s airlines will be given a $715 million federal government lifeline. * Scott Morrison has told people to stop hoarding supplies, describing panic- purchasing as “un-Australian”.
    * The prime minister has also flagged further measures to stimulate the economy, without detailing them.

  174. JC

    Artie

    I’ve seen the story, but I’m not buying it because if the standard of med care was really bad their longevity rates wouldn’t be in the top three or so in the world. They’re a bunch of old geazers and a big bunch of them need ventilators at the same time.

  175. Delta A

    The Auslan chick next to the PM took a break for almost three sentences.

    Signers give an overview of what is being said, often biased by what they perceive as important. This might not matter for general remarks, but can be critical when accurate information is a life or death matter.

    This was apparent during the bushfire reports late last year. The fire chief was stressing the danger for residents in certain areas, including Co*nabarabran. The signer that evening was an especially hyperactive woman who didn’t bother including that town nor a few others in her fervid finger flashing.

    It was 10% helpful info and 90% ridiculous theatre.

  176. Anne

    JC,

    You mean what the Irish President said?

    It does sound a bit like Churchill on WW2.

  177. struth

    If that is correct and you still think government has your interest at heart……you could be a fuckwit.

  178. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    SAS killing morally repugnant, says Andrew Hastie

    Ben Packham
    FOREIGN AFFAIRS AND DEFENCE CORRESPONDENT
    @bennpackham
    7:45PM March 17, 2020

    Former Special Air Services Regiment captain Andrew Hastie has condemned as “morally repugnant” the conduct of an SAS soldier­ seen killing an unarmed Afghan man in leaked video ­footage.

    The apparent execution, aired on the ABC’s Four Corners program­ on Monday night, was ­recorded on a helmet camera during­ a village raid in ­Oruzgan province in May 2012. The soldier called out “Do you want me to drop this c..t?”, before shooting the man three times as he cowered on the ground, holding what ­appeared to be prayer beads.

    Mr Hastie, now a federal Liberal­ MP, said the footage was ­abhorrent, and urged a swift conclusio­n to an inquiry into ­alleged war crimes committed by the ­nation’s most elite soldiers. “I found the footage morally repugnant,” he said.

    He praised the “moral courage” of SAS members who were coming forward “to expose this sort of behaviour”.

    “The public needs to remember the inquiry has been driven from the ground up by men who are committed to the rule of law, ­accountability and honour,” Mr Hastie said. “We sent our soldiers to war and they can’t be forgotten when they return. It’s not enough just to pin medals on them.

    “We are also called to bind their wounds — seen and unseen — and also hold those to account who have done wrong.”

    Another former special forces operator told The Australian the killing was “not a good scene”, but should not be viewed in isolation. “It doesn’t paint the full picture,” he said.

    The former soldier said Aust­ralia’s special forces didn’t undertake “hearts and minds” missions in Afghanistan — they were ­engaged in “kill or capture” operations. “Whenever you went out, you had actionable intelligence that there was a bad person there. You prepared for the worst and hoped for the best.”

    NSW Supreme Court judge Paul Brereton is examining at least 55 potential instances of ­unlawful conduct by Australian special forces in Afghanistan as part of his inquiry for the Inspector-General of the Australian ­Defence Force.

    According to the IGADF’s ­recent annual report, the allegations predominantly relate to ­“unlawful killings of persons who were non-combatants or were no longer combatants, but also ‘cruel treatment’ of such persons”.

    The IGADF said the inquiry was not focused on decisions made in the “heat of battle”, but on “the treatment of persons who were clearly non-combatants or who were no longer combatants”.

    Four Corners interviewed ­former SAS member Braden Chapman, who said fellow ­soldiers routinely shot villagers’ dogs, ­destroyed property and planted radios and guns on the bodies of dead Afghans.

    He said a senior soldier told him soon after he arrived in ­Afghanistan: “I hope you’re ready and prepared for this deployment because you have to make sure that you’re OK with me putting a gun at someone’s head and pulling the trigger.” “I was thinking, OK, we’re executing people now,” Mr Chapman said.

    He told of another incident in which a wounded Afghan, who was stabilised by an Australian medic, was taken away and killed by another special forces soldier.

    Defence Minister Linda Rey­nolds said she was “deeply concerned­” by the Four Corners report, and was “steadfast” in her support for the Brereton inquiry.

    From the Oz.

  179. Gab

    I thought ScoMo handled that news conference well ,especially with regard to the questions.

  180. twostix

    “The message is clear — you do not need to panic buy or unnecessarily stockpile products,” she said.

    This place sounds more like Venezuela by the day.

    Empty shelves, no basic essentials: “take only your fair share comrades – that is an order, report selfish hoarders!”.

    Global JIT driven capitalism is a terribly fragile system – on par with socialism. Sounds good on paper, incompatible with reality.

  181. Mother Lode

    Keeping the number of deaths from coronavirus to less than 20,000 would be a “good outcome” of the Government strategy to battle the pandemic, the UK’s Chief Scientific Adviser has said.

    That would be
    > 2,000 from the virus itself
    > 10,000 waiting 6 months to see a doctor
    > 3,000 from botched surgical procedures even though they weren’t in for surgery
    > 1,000 from surgical errors where surgical equipment were left inside (scissors, clamps, defrib machines, nurses) – again while no surgery was scheduled
    > 2,000 from infections of other diseases picked up from other patients of slovenly and putrid habits
    >1,000 from infections of other diseases picked up from other patients of slovenly and putrid habits, and
    > 1,000 from communication errors with doctors with marginal English ability.

    The NHS: The last word in health-relalted bureaucracy.

  182. Not in a fucking pandemic it’s not.

    She’s a smart kid, but not clairvoyant.
    There was no pandemic when she left Oz in June last year.

  183. Magic Bronson

    Airlines getting 700 million bailout? What about small business? This is not justice. You want a blanket policy. Perhaps if you accept zero interest loans to cope with the crisis, then all salaries need to be capped at $200 000. If you won’t do that maybe the program is not for you. This would be a small business friendly way to do things. These high-paid executives constitute massive overhead.

  184. Mother Lode

    That would be
    > 2,000 from the virus itself
    > 10,000 waiting 6 months to see a doctor
    > 3,000 from botched surgical procedures even though they weren’t in for surgery
    > 1,000 from surgical errors where surgical equipment were left inside (scissors, clamps, defrib machines, nurses) – again while no surgery was scheduled
    > 2,000 from infections of other diseases picked up from other patients of slovenly and putrid habits
    >1,000 from infections of other diseases picked up from other patients medical staff of slovenly and putrid habits, and
    > 1,000 from communication errors with doctors with marginal English ability.

    Dammit.

  185. NoFixedAddress

    mh
    #3361797, posted on March 18, 2020 at 10:05 am

    Next thing Australians will be wanting a reliable energy system to ensure safe storage of all that food.

    Australians might even conclude that wind and solar isn’t reliable. Wrongthink!

    when you next hear a knock on the door then you know why

  186. Infidel Tiger

    Artie

    I’ve seen the story, but I’m not buying it because if the standard of med care was really bad their longevity rates wouldn’t be in the top three or so in the world. They’re a bunch of old geazers and a big bunch of them need ventilators at the same time.

    Their longevity has zero to do with healthcare and everything to do with lifestyle.

  187. MatrixTransform

    Cure is difficult and the victims often turn violent when confronted with their own inadequacy. This has been a public health announcement.

    preaching to the converted

  188. inward bound travel still allowed

    Excuse me?

    Tell me again. How many types of stupid are there?

  189. dover_beach

    Bullshit dover…see my earlier posts about 4 this morning.
    Look at Italy past flu years.

    I’m looking at a paper which says that in Italy, over the period between 2010-15, there were no more than 1545 confirmed severe cases of influenza A and B in Italy. And yet, today, in Italy we have 2,158 deaths, 2,749 recoveries, 23,073 active cases, and 1,851 severe/ critical cases.

    Another paper shows that this winter’s flu season in Italy produced 2,768,000 cases as of late January and 240 deaths.

  190. struth

    More oldies would have already died alone in Australia from the msm propaganda induced panic than from the Virus.
    Oldies still believe the MSM.

  191. NoFixedAddress

    1735099
    #3361827, posted on March 18, 2020 at 10:19 am

    Not in a fucking pandemic it’s not.

    She’s a smart kid, but not clairvoyant.
    There was no pandemic when she left Oz in June last year.

    see. you can be human with the rest of us Jellybean

  192. MatrixTransform

    spaminator is still hungry

  193. Graham

    How useless is Australia Post. I am waiting on a printer ink delivery. The tracking information says it was collected by Australia Post from the supplier in Victoria on Thursday, and since then has been wandering around various Victorian outlets of Australia Post. It was processed in Melbourne early Friday morning and it was still in Melbourne last night. What sort of delivery business allows a parcel to sit around for 5 days not being delivered. Each day I look the delivery date gets pushed back by another couple of days. I now may get it on Friday. Privatise it.

  194. twostix

    Schools open

    Schools will remain open following “clear and crystal advice” from health experts, he said.

    ”Please know this – whatever we do, we have to do for at least six months.

    “The disruption that would occur from the closure of schools around this country, make no mistake, would be severe.”

    Again.

    The commonwealth government has zero power to declare whether QLD, NSW, WA , etc schools remain open or not.

    Where are the premiers in these “announcements”. They should all be there.

    We really don’t want to be going down this road.

  195. stackja

    struth
    #3361835, posted on March 18, 2020 at 10:23 am
    More oldies would have already died alone in Australia from the msm propaganda induced panic than from the Virus.
    Oldies still believe the MSM.

    Define oldies. Over 80?

  196. Roger

    inward bound travel still allowed

    Excuse me?

    Tell me again. How many types of stupid are there?

    That the immigration ponzi scheme continues is most crucial at this time.

  197. Roger

    How useless is Australia Post.

    Quite; I once ordered an item from suburban Los Angeles.

    It took 24 hours to get to Sydney.

    And 7 days to get to Brisbane.

  198. Notafan:

    Italy’s statistics just get worse and worse.

    The Italian “Hug a Chinese” plan was a disaster, wasn’t it?
    But it also exposed a million foreigners living in country and taking the jobs in a high unemployment scenario.
    The claim is that the Chinese do the jobs the Italians refuse to do. That’s bullshit. What is happening is the Italian unemployed are being paid enough by the government to knock back the jobs available, and this has given the fake Italian Gucci bag operators the excuse to import a million wukkas who are being paid a pitiful wage.

  199. MatrixTransform

    Her job is now in jeopardy, and options to return are disappearing.

    Hey Tel,

    …I think I’ve found a cluster

  200. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    This is how sky news is reporting Morristeen’s remarks:

    Prime Minister Scott Morrison has banned every Australian from leaving the country declaring that returning Australians were the greatest risk of spreading the deadly moronavi…

    Herald Sun:

    Australians banned from leaving the country in moronavirus crackdown …

    Braindead lamestream meeja sensationalism – who’da thunk it?

  201. Infidel Tiger

    No ban on inbound flights is purely to keep the immigration ponzi flowing, not to get Australians home.

    You are being conned.

  202. EvilElvis

    ScoMo issues a directive to “stop hoarding”. “It is not who we are as a People”.

    Yes, ScoMo, it is. Successive governments have imported a new and distrustful cohort who think it’s perfectly normal.

    Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind.

    Added to decades of whittling away any sense of personal responsibility in the masses.

  203. NoFixedAddress

    dover_beach
    #3361834, posted on March 18, 2020 at 10:23 am

    Bullshit dover…see my earlier posts about 4 this morning.
    Look at Italy past flu years.

    I’m looking at a paper which says that in Italy, over the period between 2010-15, there were no more than 1545 confirmed severe cases of influenza A and B in Italy. And yet, today, in Italy we have 2,158 deaths, 2,749 recoveries, 23,073 active cases, and 1,851 severe/ critical cases.

    Another paper shows that this winter’s flu season in Italy produced 2,768,000 cases as of late January and 240 deaths.

    @dover

    does the paper state nationalities?

    genuine question

  204. struth

    Highlights•In the winter seasons from 2013/14 to 2016/17, an estimated average of 5,290,000 ILI cases occurred in Italy, corresponding to an incidence of 9%.•More than 68,000 deaths attributable to flu epidemics were estimated in the study period.•Italy showed a higher influenza attributable excess mortality compared to other European countries. especially in the elderly.AbstractObjectivesIn recent years, Italy has been registering peaks in death rates, particularly among the elderly during the winter season. Influenza epidemics have been indicated as one of the potential determinants of such an excess. The objective of our study was to estimate the influenza-attributable contribution to excess mortality during the influenza seasons from 2013/14 to 2016/17 in Italy.MethodsWe used the EuroMomo and the FluMomo methods to estimate the annual trend of influenza-attributable excess death rate by age group. Population data were provided by the National Institute of Statistics, data on influenza like illness and confirmed influenza cases were provided by the National Institutes of Health. As an indicator of weekly influenza activity (IA) we adopted the Goldstein index, which is the product of the percentage of patients seen with influenza-like illness (ILI) and percentage of influenza-positive specimens, in a given week.ResultsWe estimated excess deaths of 7,027, 20,259, 15,801 and 24,981 attributable to influenza epidemics in the 2013/14, 2014/15, 2015/16 and 2016/17, respectively, using the Goldstein index. The average annual mortality excess rate per 100,000 ranged from 11.6 to 41.2 with most of the influenza-associated deaths per year registered among the elderly. However children less than 5 years old also reported a relevant influenza attributable excess death rate in the 2014/15 and 2016/17 seasons (1.05/100,000 and 1.54/100,000 respectively).ConclusionsOver 68,000 deaths were attributable to influenza epidemics in the study period. The observed excess of deaths is not completely unexpected, given the high number of fragile very old subjects living in Italy. In conclusion, the unpredictability of the influenza virus continues to present a major challenge to health professionals and policy makers. Nonetheless, vaccination remains the most effective means for reducing the burden of influenza, and efforts to increase vaccine coverage and the introduction of new vaccine strategies (such as vaccinating healthy children) should be considered to reduce the influenza attributable excess mortality experienced in Italy and in Europe in the last seasons.Previous arti

  205. Mother Lode:

    Okay, so the people hoarding – stuffing their pantries with whatever they can get – are they likely to go out every couple of days and top up? Or are they going to workout through their hoard like caterpillars on a leaf?

    I confess I have hoarded beer.
    To the extent of hauling the old beer fridge out of the garage and filled it up.
    But it won’t stay filled for some reason or other.
    Am I a bad person?

  206. DrBeauGan

    Water should be free.

    So should electricity.

    Also medical support, medicines, internet, food, housing, petrol and Havana cigars. And why not top of the range SUVs and ocean going yachts? In fact, everything should be free.

    When did you convert to socialism, IT?

  207. struth

    Get used to your new prison.
    Brought about because 6 nearly deads died of a virus.

  208. lotocoti

    Mother Lode
    #3361829, posted on March 18, 2020 at 10:20 am

    You forgot to include a further 3000 whose next of kin signed NDAs in medical malpractice settlements with various NHS Trusts.

  209. dover_beach

    The US has 30 ICU beds per 100,000.

    Italy has 7.

    Italy appears to be on par with most European countries, slightly below that of Australia but certainly above NZ for ICU beds.

    Table 1
    Selected ICU Bed Availability by country with per capita healthcare spending and life expectancy at birth [3, 6, 22–27]*

    Country ICU beds per 100,000 people Per Capita Healthcare Cost** Life Expectancy at Birth
    United States 20.0–31.7 $7,164 79
    Canada 13.5 $3,867 81
    Denmark 6.7–8.9 $3,814 79
    Australia 8.0–8.9 $3,365 82
    South Africa 8.9 $843 54
    Sweden 5.8–8.7 $3,622 81
    Spain 8.2–9.7 $2,941 82
    Japan 7.9 $2,817 83
    UK 3.5–7.4 $3,222 80
    New Zealand 4.8–5.5 $2,655 81
    China 2.8–4.6 $265 74

  210. Anne

    Tell me again. How many types of stupid are there?

    It makes sense Rambler, if you consider, it might be about catching monsters, not flu.

  211. Infidel Tiger

    When did you convert to socialism, IT?

    It’s not socialism to want to keep the doors of every business open or least viable during a black swan event created by government.

    Extraordinary times keep for extraordinary measures.

    This is no time for purity tests.

  212. Roger

    The reaction now far outweighs the number of cases and fatalities. That poses an interesting question – is there something that we are not being told about this thing? Is it just garden variety bottie covering by pollies with an eye on the next election, or is there a real threat that has not been articulated?

    Even a modest projection of the stats means if the number of infections isn’t reduced our ICUs will be overwhelmed.

    So the curve of new infections has to be flattened so the medical response can be managed within the contraints of the resources available. We only have so many beds, doctors & nurses available. It is reported that in Qld all leave for medical staff has been cancelled and retired & student nurses are being co-opted into the system. It’s about preparing for the worst with all available resources. The worst might not eventuate, but if governments didn’t prepare for it they would be grossly negligent.

  213. struth

    Can an Australian PM just ban you leaving the country?
    If I was on a yacht heading to Polynesia from Cairns what then.
    Has he declared a state of emergency?
    What mistical powers do these people have?
    More importantly to them is what powers you think they have.
    FMD.

  214. Roger

    ScoMo issues a directive to “stop hoarding”. “It is not who we are as a People”.

    They’re not listening to you, SloMo.

    Import millions of people from alien cultures and then wonder that Australia is fast on the way to becoming a a low trust society with no common ethos.

    Idiots.

  215. Good morning all.
    Go to my normal butcher in Swan Hill, find old mate has fuck all, except some sausages.
    This is almost Wall-E, where the ship out in space is full of fatties. Government almost wanting the hoi polloi to turn to fast food, throwing out stimulus packages to keep us in line. What a time to be alive!

  216. Cassie of Sydney

    Tim Blair uploaded a good piece yesterday…he has also taken charge of his blog…another good thing.

    The piece that he uploaded is from The Speccie…

    “The Spectator’s veteran columnist Taki Theodoracopulos reviews matters:

    Those who run our lives were slow to yell fire in case we insulted the Chinese. I’m not saying we should go back to treating them badly, but we should remember that commies always speak with forked tongues.

    China should have been isolated as early as last December, but we were all too busy waiting for Nike sweatshops to deliver their cheaply made goods for our Christmas trees. Now we’re doing the sweating, and half of Italy is shut down.

    And even now, fake news journals such as the New York Times are reluctant to write anything that might give aid and comfort to anti-globalisation forces in case they sound like the Donald.

    I think that Taki has nailed it.

  217. struth

    Australia has an Iron Curtain.

  218. Anne

    Patriots have disabled the Social Media censorship algorithms, so the truth can be spread.

    Google Adrenochrome.

    Google Pedogate.

    Google Michael Lavaughn Robinson

    And take a scroll through the images.

  219. Roger

    Can an Australian PM just ban you leaving the country?

    Not at present, although the executive could close the borders in a national emergency.

    But presently it’s advice, not a ban.

  220. struth

    I don’t give a shit if it’s just advice.
    I’ll listen to the government when it listens to me.

  221. Magic Bronson

    Only advice hey? Well that changes things. So its a bit of a nothing-burger?

  222. Lilliana

    Tel
    #3361683, posted on March 18, 2020 at 8:48 am

    Be on the look out for symptoms of the Australian mind virus

    Thank you for so summarising my observations so succinctly.
    I wish this was on the front page of every paper in this country.

    Lefist flogs must be so happy that their plan to destroy the country is working and their monocultural mind hive utopia is just around the corner.

  223. notafan

    Roger

    You can explain ‘flatten the curve’ until you are blue in the face but the conspiracy nutters will continue to stick their fingers in their ears and say “I can’t hear you”

  224. NoFixedAddress

    Anne
    #3361872, posted on March 18, 2020 at 10:44 am

    Patriots have disabled the Social Media censorship algorithms, so the truth can be spread.

    Google Adrenochrome.

    Google Pedogate.

    Google Michael Lavaughn Robinson

    And take a scroll through the images.

    @Anne

    give us the cliff notes plz

  225. struth

    Even a modest projection of the stats means if the number of infections isn’t reduced our ICUs will be overwhelmed.

    From what I’ve read infection rarely means hospitalisation, many won’t even know they have it.

    People are assuming all infected will be hospitalised and a percentage of them will die.
    I think we can safely call bullshit to that one.

  226. notafan

    I love the free thinkers demanding government use an iron fist.

    Either you are part of a civil society or you are not.

    Brains

    We all have them.

  227. NoFixedAddress

    tailgunner

    Are you alive or dead????

  228. I don’t give a shit if it’s just advice.
    I’ll listen to the government when it listens to me.

    You get that chance routinely at elections.
    And in this country rocking up to vote is compulsory.
    And you’re one of the idiots (along with many others who post here) who wants to introduce voluntary voting.
    Logical reasoning is not your strong point, and is no part of Catallaxy culture.

  229. DrBeauGan

    Brains

    We all have them.

    I’m not so sure about that.

  230. notafan

    No they aren’t struth.

    Look at the total infections and the total critical on the stats site.

    Sheesh.

    Of course Australia has the luxury of isolating all current sufferers in hospital

    for now.

  231. Tom

    Annie, how’s the membership application going for the Greenfilth? Lots of conspiracy theorists over at the Filth and they’re always looking for new recruits. You’d be sooooo at home.

  232. struth

    It’s not a conspiracy theory to know the left use every crisis to their advantage and if no crisis exists, they’ll invent them ala climate change.
    That’s studying history not a conspiracy theory.

  233. NoFixedAddress

    well said @LLilliana
    #3361881, posted on March 18, 2020 at 10:53 am

    Tel

  234. notafan

    I said nothing about effective use DRBG

  235. struth

    No one can possibly know total infections nota.
    Go back to sleep.

  236. candy

    ScoMo issues a directive to “stop hoarding”. “It is not who we are as a People”.

    The hoarding was really surprising at first. Mystifying. But I think now it means folk simply don’t trust government, or Woolies or Coles either.

    I wonder who runs Woolies and Coles because they can’t seem to get enough foodstuffs, get the distribution centres organised or set up more distribution centres, get as many drivers they need or get more drivers from other courier companies etc. It seems to me a shemozzle. Shutting down online ordering is ridiculous too – more easily available on time online ordering is what is needed to make people feel safe.

  237. Brains

    We all have them.

    Evidence please?

  238. NoFixedAddress

    1735099
    #3361889, posted on March 18, 2020 at 10:58 am

    I don’t give a shit if it’s just advice.
    I’ll listen to the government when it listens to me.

    You get that chance routinely at elections.
    And in this country rocking up to vote is compulsory.
    And you’re one of the idiots (along with many others who post here) who wants to introduce voluntary voting.
    Logical reasoning is not your strong point, and is no part of Catallaxy culture.

    c’mon jellybean

    your now part of the cat culture

    if you didn’t exist (?) we would invent you.

    welcome to the kitty klub

  239. Roger

    People are assuming all infected will be hospitalised and a percentage of them will die.

    No. But a percentage will be hospitalised and a percentage of those will die.

    In allocating scarce health care resources to meet that challenge it’s all about the numbers and the timing.

    And even at the most conservative estimate of a 1% mortality rate this thing is ten times deadlier than the flu.

  240. struth

    It’s not a conspiracy theory to know the left use every crisis to their advantage and if no crisis exists, they’ll invent them like climate change.That’s studying history not a conspiracy theory.

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