Tuesday Forum: March 17, 2020

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  1. Mater

    I think you are wrong Arky.
    I’m recommending non-stop sex.

    Let’s see who survives.

    ‘Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!”’

    – Hunter S. Thompson

  2. Gab

    I have decided to go to the doctor.

    Sore throat running mild temperature

    If it should turn out to be the virus – and I hope it is not – recovery rates are very good at 91% Nota.

  3. Fisky

    There’s a lot of bullshit being flung around on this blog about how the Chinese handled the emergence of the virus.

    Finally, we’ve smoked you out for what we always suspected you are – a full-blown apologist for the CCP. I knew we would get there eventually and here we are.

    No, Numbers, the CCP did not react well to the viral outbreak at all. In fact, it was an unmitigated disaster that is directly caused by their totalitarian political system. The reality is that Wuhan whistleblower Dr Li Wenliang was detained on January 3 by the Wuhan police for “spreading rumours” on social media, and it wasn’t until the last week of January that they started clamping down on travel within Hubei. By which time 5 million people had already left the province.

    Interestingly, President Xi later claimed that he had been “leading” the response to the Wuhan Virus from January 7th, which is odd given he made no public statements at all over the period that he was allegedly on the front line combatting this virus. He was completely silent about the virus until January 20th.

    On 8 January, a new coronavirus was identified as the cause of the pneumonia. The sequence of the virus was soon published on an open-access database.

    ROFL, that is pathetic, even by your standards, Numbers. The very next day, the laboratory that published the sequence was forcibly shut down by the authorities for no reason.

    “The centre was not given any specific reasons why the laboratory was closed for rectification. [We have submitted] four reports [asking for permission] to reopen but we have not received any replies,” a source with the centre said, requesting anonymity because of the matter’s sensitivity.

    The closure has greatly affected the scientists and their research when they should be racing against the clock to find the means to help put the novel coronavirus outbreak under control,” the source said.

    So in summary, the CCP shut down local whistleblowers, publicly imposed a blackout on all information relating to the virus, and even shut down the laboratory which provided the genetic sequence of the virus. Two weeks later, Xi Jinping finally said something in public about the Wuhan virus.

    Numbers is even worse than ignorant, he’s a malicious blowhard who loves repressive Communist regimes.

  4. Porter

    Sorry to hear you are unwell, Notafan. Hopefully it is nothing serious. Just heard of a lady returning from Bali who was symptomatic and it turned out to be…malaria!

  5. Lilliana

    With respect to Singapore: overseas Chinese people are different culturally than mainland Chinese. They often have a deep mistrust of mainland China and especially the government. Overseas Chinese people (like from Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia etc) I have encountered are some of the most capitalist I’ve ever met.

    This is my experience as well. It is not race but culture. Something numbers seems to conveniently ignore.

  6. Cassie/Ellie/Calli:
    Are youse triplets or something?

  7. Porter

    e.g. None of the local supermarkets have eggs. Butcher and fruit and veg shop in supermarket mall have eggs galore.

    The big supermarkets usually have their own suppliers or commercial farms. They are not as nimble as smaller outfits in sourcing alternative suppliers. At the same time some farmers are contracted to the big chains and can’t even sell excess produce to others. Remember that big market garden scandal years ago? That sort of stuff still goes on. Plus, China.

  8. Fisky

    The potential disease outbreak soon drew nationwide attention including that of the National Health Commission (NHC) in Beijing who sent experts to Wuhan on the following day.

    A certain President of the PRC whose name I can’t mention here, did not make a single public statement about the Coronavirus until January 20. Meanwhile, anyone trying to put out information of the virus through social media or other channels was viciously censored and even arrested. This is a matter of the public record, and it’s embarrassing to see you defending this regime.

    On 8 January, a new coronavirus was identified as the cause of the pneumonia. The sequence of the virus was soon published on an open-access database. Measures taken by China were praised by the World Health Organization (WHO) and some foreign governments.

    Ummm, the laboratory that published the sequence of the virus was shut down the following day and its work suspended. Numbers is seriously trying to claim that this was somehow to the CCP’s credit??? Embarrassing!

    This is all very straightforward stuff that anyone who was paying attention would know about. You’re a joke for running interference for this regime, digits. Pathetic.

  9. Zatara

    Here is the entire CCP propaganda article in Wikipedia regarding the Wuhan Virus.

    Damn but that looks familiar doesn’t it?

  10. Cassie of Sydney

    “Winston Smith
    #3362502, posted on March 18, 2020 at 5:48 pm
    Cassie/Ellie/Calli:
    Are youse triplets or something?”

    Definitely not……I am Cassie

  11. Bruce of Newcastle

    The City of Sydney has announced it will be cancelling or postponing all non-essential events and in-person meetings, closing gyms and aquatic centres and placing restricted hours on libraries and community centres.

    The poor shopkeepers in Sydney have just had the wretched light rail finally completed. During construction it destroyed their traffic. Now the Wubug has destroyed their traffic again.
    Will Clover Moore help them?

  12. cohenite

    Some fascinating new book titles and their blurbs for those jaded with the chunk virus hoop-la:

    Not Now Doris: he hadn’t been attentive lately and she needed him like a drunk needs a drink so she showed him some of her steamiest moves.
    I like it tough: she was built for trouble and packaged for sale.

    And a timely one for the me fucking too movement:
    All the girls were willing: A story that pulls no punches about what girls must do to succeed in show business.

  13. Infidel Tiger

    Around the nation LIVE: Anglican church suspends all church gatherings

    Phew. No one affected.

  14. Cassie of Sydney

    “Gab
    #3362494, posted on March 18, 2020 at 5:41 pm
    I have decided to go to the doctor.

    Sore throat running mild temperature

    If it should turn out to be the virus – and I hope it is not – recovery rates are very good at 91% Nota.”

    I second that…hope all is well Nota.

  15. Boris

    With respect to Singapore: overseas Chinese people are different culturally than mainland Chinese. They often have a deep mistrust of mainland China and especially the government. Overseas Chinese people (like from Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia etc) I have encountered are some of the most capitalist I’ve ever met.

    There are many mainland Chinese in Singapore.

  16. Bruce of Newcastle

    It is not race but culture.

    I suspect it’s also family.
    As in having family members in mainland China.
    Who are hostages assuring correct behaviour.
    As monitored very carefully by the CCP’s army of watchers.

  17. Nick

    Cassie/Ellie/Calli:
    “ I came, I saw, I commented”

  18. This is my experience as well. It is not race but culture. Something numbers seems to conveniently ignore.

    And of course terms like “Celestials”, “Chunks”, and “Dry Cleaners” used frequently here, make that distinction absolutely clear…..

  19. Viva

    https://thehill.com/opinion/international/487851-china-and-the-whos-chief-hold-them-both-accountable-for-pandemic

    The head of WHO has shown himself to be hand in glove with the Chinese govt and isn’t even a medical doctor.

    What a joke.

  20. Tel

    From a libertarian perspective I have no problems with the store owner or manager making the decision to prioritize some customers over others, even completely bar some customers from the store, based on whatever they think is good for the business.

    However I believe that Australian anti-discrimination laws would make that illegal. Dunno if that is likely to be enforced under the circumstances. At the very least the store leaves themselves open to a lawsuit … and that’s the problem with weak property rights.

  21. Boris

    Perhaps…but it is the truth.

    You know Cassie very well that is not.

  22. Nick

    Nota, I’ve had that on and off for about two weeks. Taking olive leaf extract has helped.

  23. Cassie of Sydney

    “Lilliana

    This is my experience as well. It is not race but culture. Something numbers seems to conveniently ignore.

    Yep…which has always been my point.

  24. notafan

    Thank you Porter.

    It’s not that I am particularly unwell. Nlim not. It’s that it prevents me from helping to look after those that are.

    Very frustrating.

    However knowing I am not at all likely to have coronavirus makes it a little less stressful.

  25. Mark A

    Some still waiting patiently for the wisdom that is supposed to come with age.

  26. Cassie of Sydney

    “Boris
    #3362522, posted on March 18, 2020 at 6:00 pm
    Perhaps…but it is the truth.

    You know Cassie very well that is not.”

    Actually BorisG…from the rubbish you frequently sprout here……it is the truth.

  27. notafan

    Thanks Nick

    Will try to obtain.

  28. JC

    I’m not taking back a single thing I’ve said about “Jerome” at the Fed. Here’s my hunch…

    The Fed has done a reasonable job of mitigating the damage at the short side of the time scale in dealing with both the fallout of the Chinese virus. It was awfully late, but they’ve done something. It announced a reasonably sized QE program, and they’ve now added a commercial paper program to fund firms that are unable to obtain finance because credit dried up.

    All this, however is for the short term, which is attempting to cushion the economy from the impact of the virus. This is pretty clear.

    Once this appears to be bedded down, I think the punters will be shocked with new announcements coming from the Fed in the coming weeks. These actions will be deliberate in an attempt to change perceptions of the long term. The yield curve needs to be shifted back to positive and I think this will be done over the coming weeks. We’ll see.

  29. Cassie of Sydney

    And another thing BorisG…never argue with a Jooooish woman.

  30. Huck

    From Wiki:
    It was first manifested by a cluster of mysterious, suspected pneumonia cases in Wuhan, the capital of Hubei Province.
    A Wuhan hospital notified the local center for disease control and prevention (CDC) and health commissions on 27 December 2019. On 31 December Wuhan CDC admitted that there was a cluster of unknown pneumonia cases related to Huanan Seafood Market after the unverified documents appeared on the Internet.

    From lying, traitorous,un-attributing plagiarist Sideshow Bob:

    There’s a lot of bullshit being flung around on this blog about how the Chinese handled the emergence of the virus.
    It was first manifested by a cluster of mysterious, suspected pneumonia cases in Wuhan, the capital of Hubei Province.
    A Wuhan hospital notified the local center for disease control and prevention (CDC) and health commissions on 27 December 2019. On 31 December Wuhan CDC admitted that there was a cluster of unknown pneumonia cases related to Huanan Seafood Market after the unverified documents appeared on the Internet.

    You really are a low life piece of shit Bob, trying to pass off Chicom propoganda (on Wiki of all places) as your own work. Some fucking PHD student!

  31. feelthebern

    Step one, ensure liquidity.
    Step two, get out of the rut.
    The RBA seems to have missed that memo.

  32. Huck

    Sorry about the formatting on the previous, bloody phone!
    Here’s the link

  33. Mater

    However I believe that Australian anti-discrimination laws would make that illegal. Dunno if that is likely to be enforced under the circumstances. At the very least the store leaves themselves open to a lawsuit … and that’s the problem with weak property rights.

    It’s an interesting question, Tel. The fact is, it is happening…and they are being widely applauded for it.

    Given the conditions are not based on race, religion, or any such thing, but rather residential address, perhaps they’ll be ok. After all, aren’t some schools also ‘zoned’?

    We are seeing a lot of unprecedented things at the moment.

  34. feelthebern

    German military laptop sold on eBay included classified missile information

    That wasn’t a missile.
    It was some German faecal porn.

  35. feelthebern

    never argue with a Jooooish woman.

    Sound advice.

  36. Fisky

    Oh dear, I see Numbers is openly defending the CCP’s disastrous response to the Wuhan virus by copying and pasting from Wikipedia. Embarrassing!

  37. JC

    And another thing BorisG…never argue with a Jooooish woman.

    Especially the NY variety. Hell on earth.

  38. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Right so we think these old Chinese people will be sending all our gear back to China to deal with their lockdown? Is that what is going on?

    Not so long ago I read a newspaper report about Chinese students supporting themselves by being buyers for domestic Chinese clients. We all know about the baby formula of a couple of years ago – and the Chinese warship sailors buying the same product in multiples mid last year. If the logistical question has been previously resolved, it’s a short jump to reposition purchases to other in demand products. There is no other answer for the initial shortages. But now it’s been compounded by Australian consumers aware of the shortages and acting rationally with their own purchases.

  39. bespoke

    I’m to dumb or just enjoy it to take such advice.

  40. Cassie of Sydney

    “feelthebern
    #3362538, posted on March 18, 2020 at 6:09 pm”

    Good to see you Bern…was worried about you.

  41. JC

    I had some legal work done last year by a middle sized city law firm. The young dude doing the work was just excellent and he was just below partner level. Something came up today as a result of a bunch of ASIC notices I couldn’t be bothered even opening related to the prior matter and dealing with ASIC is multiples worse than dealing with Tesltra’s Manila call centre. I called at the old firm and found out he left for one of the very large firms as of last Friday. This dude is not going to meet his new work colleagues for months! 🙂

  42. Bruce of Newcastle

    Especially the NY variety. Hell on earth.

    May not be quite that JC, but the locals aren’t in good shape from the following story:
    100 people test positive for coronavirus in Hasidic Brooklyn neighborhood (JPost, 18 Mar)
    And with the Passover celebration coming the timing is awful.

  43. Infidel Tiger

    This is what a shutdown does:

    alaji S. Srinivasan
    @balajis
    ·
    13h
    Happening across industries: restaurants, hotels, movies, etc. Can’t do this forever, people going bankrupt.

    To get out of lockdown we need massive testing. That lets us identify red & green zones, with high/low virus. And let negative people in green zones go back to work.

    https://twitter.com/balajis/status/1239978998479769601

    Complete madness.

  44. feelthebern

    Unlike the US where the Fed is doing a lot of heavy lifting, here in Oz, the RBA has been woefully slow in acting.
    What took the Fed 17 months to action in Nov 2007 through to March 2009, this time around they did in a week.
    They are doing over $US500bill a night in the overnight repo market.
    All while the RBA twiddles it’s thumbs re their action.
    Bottom line, this isn’t like the GFC.
    It’s much much worse.

  45. Mitch M.

    However I believe that Australian anti-discrimination laws would make that illegal. Dunno if that is likely to be enforced under the circumstances. At the very least the store leaves themselves open to a lawsuit … and that’s the problem with weak property rights.

    My understanding is that anti-discrimination only apply to those categories defined within the relevant Acts. I hope that is the case because otherwise property rights take an even bigger hit. Otherwise the Anti-Discrimination Act would become a free for all to demand compensation for being refused service etc.

  46. JC

    It won’t work Artie. You would need to immediately isolate both groups. And I mean immediately… not four days, not even an hour. They would need to be separated immediately and not come into contact with one another until recovery.

  47. Cassie of Sydney

    “Bruce of Newcastle
    #3362550, posted on March 18, 2020 at 6:23 pm
    Especially the NY variety. Hell on earth.

    May not be quite that JC, but the locals aren’t in good shape from the following story:
    100 people test positive for coronavirus in Hasidic Brooklyn neighborhood (JPost, 18 Mar)
    And with the Passover celebration coming the timing is awful.”

    I am supposed to be going to Melbourne for Passover.

  48. feelthebern

    Overnight, Iowahawk & Eric Weinstein both posted on twitter excellent comments regarding the zombie flu.

  49. 1735099

    Trying to pass off Chicom propaganda.

    No – just posting the truth to counter the bullshit plaguing this site.
    You always get an outraged response when you do this on Catallaxy.

  50. feelthebern

    So a 6th ozzie has died.
    An 86 year old chap.
    A summary of the other deaths below.

    The other deaths are two women, aged 90 and 95, and an 82-year-old man, all from the Dorothy Henderson Lodge aged care facility in Macquarie Park, a 77-year-old woman from NSW and a 78-year-old man from Perth

  51. Confused Old Misfit

    Please, Let’s All Take a Deep Breath
    Worth a read. Good article by an author familiar to most posters here.

  52. bespoke

    China’s coronavirus information warfare hydra

    The fact that otherwise well-informed commentators have lapped up this lunacy is truly tragic. Foreign policy expert Anne Applebaum, who got Xi wrong from the start, is even presenting China as a positive superpower replacement for America.

  53. feelthebern

    The first coronavirus cases presented in Oz during January.
    Roll forward two months.
    6 deaths.
    All oldies & 3 from the one fucking nursing home.
    Yet the country is shut down?

  54. JC

    Bern

    I’m all hunched up today. Here’s my other at the back of my mind hunch. This is the the nadir, low water mark for low inflation/deflation in the world – particularly the US and Europe.

    It will take about 5 to 10 years to this new period to show up and will be around for another generation.

  55. Huck

    1735099
    #3362558, posted on March 18, 2020 at 6:30 pm
    Trying to pass off Chicom propaganda.

    No – just posting the truth to counter the bullshit plaguing this site

    No, you dissembling Karnt. You get a reaction like this when you lift words from somewhere else to pass off as your own.
    You really wonder why people don’t engage with you civilly? You keep fucking doing this, you really are a piece of shit.

  56. JC

    Young dude I saw today who had a joke to tell me.

    I’ve worked out the reason people are buying the toilet paper

    Because every time someone sneezes they shit themselves

  57. feelthebern

    Australia won’t rebound this time.
    Ex property, purely because of interest rates lower forever, we will resemble Europe post GFC for a decade.
    Emerging economies who haven’t taken this coronavirus scam will be the place to be.
    & of course the US.

  58. Farmer Gez

    Happy days.
    Seven years on school council and finishing off as president. I’m back from the AGM and free as a bird!
    Watching the news with a G&T (COVID cocktail) feeling good.
    I’m down to one committee and that’s the local turf club which is lots of fun, boozing, punting and syndicating. I’m staying on that while I’m upright.
    The locals are chasing me to nominate for local Gov. Not a chance in hell I’m going in for that shite.

  59. feelthebern

    Australia at every level now resembles Chicago.
    The worst of us at every level of government & bureaucracy.
    All hoovering our tax dollars.
    & when the shit hits the fan they use it as an excuse to drive the engine room of the economy – small to medium business – to the wall.

  60. Bruce of Newcastle

    Yet the country is shut down?

    Bern – It sure ain’t the Australia of 1939 when you had typhoid, yellow fever, polio, leprosy and several other uncurable nasties floating around and knocking people off in job lots.

  61. notafan

    Personal shopping never actually stopped.

  62. JC

    We get US social security. At 60 cents Aussie, it becomes an interesting little amount and it’s tax free in Oz because of the tax agreement.
    Buy US dollar, wear diamonds.

  63. Roger

    Around the nation LIVE: Anglican church suspends all church gatherings

    Phew. No one affected.

    Very droll, IT.

    If that refers to the Sydney archdiocese suspending worship services it’s actually the most vibrant diocese in Australia.

  64. Fisky

    No – just posting the truth to counter the bullshit plaguing this site.

    No, you posted a bunch of second-hand rubbish from Wikipedia and tried to pass it off as supporting the CCP’s response to the pandemic.

    Unfortunately, you either didn’t read what you posted or don’t know anything about the topic you posted on, but one of the points you cited in favour of the CCP’s response to the pandemic was the public release of the virus’s genetic sequencing in early January.

    What you didn’t point out was that the group who published the genetic sequence was a Shanghai laboratory. It was shut down by the CCP authorities the very next day and its work on the virus was thereafter cancelled.

    Given you obviously aren’t aware of this, I don’t quite understand why you are expressing a view on something you know nothing at all about.

  65. feelthebern

    Bruce, despite all the action by the Fed, credit spreads are now worse than the GFC.
    No liquidity, no economy.

  66. notafan

    a July 2019 article at the ABC suggested that there are 150,000 personal shoppers operating in Australia

    Chinese daigou changing influencing Australian business

  67. feelthebern

    You paid into JC, so you’re entitled to it.

  68. calli

    “Pray tell” is an idiom, Calli, and my questions were serious. What gives Christian extra wisdom to ignore medical advice?

    Right, Porter. I’ll play.

    The “medical advice” is to keep schools open. Some private schools have elected to close. This is their choice.

    They are being prudent. Many parents at these schools have already withdrawn their children, ready to supervise studies at home. Another worry is that irresponsible parents will send their children to school even when those children are unwell. This is not an unheard of thing.

    The “medical advice” from our CMO three weeks ago was remarkably different to what it is today regarding “social distancing” for instance. Diogenes had a bit to say about how that works at his school up thread.

    As for your claim that Christians are not showing leadership by closing their schools because “medical advice”…perhaps that is exactly what they are showing.

  69. areff

    It’s reassuring that in this year of plague some things remain unshaken and unshakeable. Marilyn Shepherd’s mental condition, for example.

  70. notafan

    Numbers

    Plagiarism and fakecdotes.

    Take your pick.

  71. kaysee

    Zali Steggall has put her plans for world salvation on hold because something real is happening:

    Independent MP for Warringah Zali Steggall has announced she will delay the introduction of her private members climate change bill to parliament …..

    It’s all about the climate. Nothing else can be more important.
     
    From WIP archives
    One and Two

  72. egg_

    Tel
    #3361683, posted on March 18, 2020 at 8:48 am
    Be on the look out for symptoms of the Australian mind virus:

    Written by the open borders loon from his bunker?

  73. Top Ender

    Not going to go well for the supermarket bandit from Lismore who assaulted two lady shoppers and a staff member:

    Police would like to speak to a man they believe can assist with their inquiries.

    He’s described as being of Caucasian appearance, aged in his mid-50s, 170cm tall with a medium build, dark brown to grey hair pulled back in a man bun at base of neck, and is unshaven with a scruffy “two-day” growth.

    At the time he was wearing a grey/black-collared T shirt, dark denim jeans, sunglasses and was carrying a black back pack. He was last seen wearing a matt-black cycle helmet and riding a white girls-style bicycle.

  74. Porter

    Infidel Tiger
    #3362514, posted on March 18, 2020 at 5:58 pm

    Heh.

    Time to decide. Social leaven or social contagion?

  75. Roger

    However I believe that Australian anti-discrimination laws would make that illegal. Dunno if that is likely to be enforced under the circumstances. At the very least the store leaves themselves open to a lawsuit … and that’s the problem with weak property rights.

    A shop keeper can refuse service provided he doesn’t breach anti-discrimination laws.

  76. JC

    A shop keeper can refuse service provided he doesn’t breach anti-discrimination laws.

    So the operating rule is to never give a reason?

  77. feelthebern

    Oh my.
    Does a certain student known that plagiarism is a big no no?

  78. calli

    I love the way some here want to do what the government says, because daddy knows best.

  79. 1735099

    You posted a bunch of second hand rubbish

    All that material, irrespective of origin, is independently verifiable.
    There was a delay, but once the medical authorities in Wuhan became aware of what they were dealing with, they acted quickly and transparently.
    That action was praised by the WHO, and has ultimately saved lives.
    Nothing the Chinese could do would be approved of by the nutjobs who post here, but there’s no substitute for the truth.
    I don’t give a stuff for the Catallaxy orthodoxy, and will continue to post facts.
    Get used to it.

  80. Roger

    So the operating rule is to never give a reason?

    Either that, be imaginative or don’t illegally discriminate.

    A regional shop keeper is quite within his rights to reserve some products for locals.

  81. Mater
    #3362493, posted on March 18, 2020 at 5:40 pm

    ‘Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!”’

    – Hunter S. Thompson

    repost

  82. Snoopy

    Cheer up, JC. It mightn’t be as bad as you fear. You did read AMP wrong.

  83. Fisky

    From the Alibaba-owned South China Morning Post –

    https://amp.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3052966/chinese-laboratory-first-shared-coronavirus-genome-world-ordered

    The Shanghai laboratory where researchers published the world’s first genome sequence of the deadly coronavirus that causes Covid-19 has been shut down.

    The laboratory at the Shanghai Public Health Clinical Centre was ordered to close for “rectification” on January 12, a day after Professor Zhang Yongzhen’s team published the genome sequence on open platforms. It closed temporarily the following day.

    The release of the data helped researchers develop test kits for the virus.

    “The centre was not given any specific reasons why the laboratory was closed for rectification. [We have submitted] four reports [asking for permission] to reopen but we have not received any replies,” a source with the centre said, requesting anonymity because of the matter’s sensitivity.

    The closure has greatly affected the scientists and their research when they should be racing against the clock to find the means to help put the novel coronavirus outbreak under control,” the source said.

  84. Diogenes

    they acted quickly and transparently.

    Can I interest you in a bridge?

  85. Infidel Tiger

    Overnight, Iowahawk & Eric Weinstein both posted on twitter excellent comments regarding the zombie flu.

    Weinstein’s point that we need better experts is spot on.

    It’s why their is so much confusion about the path forward. I change my ideas about how to proceed constantly.

    However, I’m 100% rock solid that we must never forget China. Did. This.

  86. 1735099

    Does a certain student know plagiarism is a big no-no

    After 50 plus years of study in three different institutions I’ve forgotten more about plagiarism than you’ve learned.
    For example, a scrofulous blog like Catallaxy is not a thesis.
    I’m surprised you have to be told that.

  87. Star jumps, one arm pushups, toe touches and some shadow boxing.

    Yeah, fkn oath.
    The Chris Flannery work out.
    Respect

  88. egg_

    I had a fever and sore throat for 2 weeks in January (in chunk Central) – should I “hug a chunk” per the Italian Mayor?
    Do chunks have a lung protein susceptible the CV-19?

  89. Cassie of Sydney

    “1735099”

    And we don’t give a stuff for your orthodoxy and we will continue to post the following facts about you…..that you are….

    a liar
    a plagiarist
    a fabricator
    a racist
    an anti-Semite
    a coward
    and
    an all round putrid disgrace

    Get used to it.

  90. JC

    I need cheering up, Snoopy? Who knew?

  91. cohenite

    There you go; a photo of the folks travelling by bus to country towns to buy up all their food/supplies stock:

    https://www.2gb.com/busloads-of-people-caught-supermarket-hopping/?fbclid=IwAR3L5Mrbs_v5JCivG7nyYWnBMzyzOamthM-EKqpFT-FUmyM_Ea5N7TeacCI

  92. Infidel Tiger

    Bruce, despite all the action by the Fed, credit spreads are now worse than the GFC.
    No liquidity, no economy.

    Europe needs at $2 trillion injected from what I read.

    I think we’re gone.

    I have wine, if people have cheese.

  93. Cassie of Sydney

    “feelthebern
    #3362592, posted on March 18, 2020 at 6:55 pm
    Oh my.
    Does a certain student known that plagiarism is a big no no?”

    Bern…his whole life is an exercise in plagiarism.

  94. After 50 plus years of study in three different institutions

    he has forgotten why he was there.

    /labrat

  95. mh

    Gatherings of over 100 people are allowed in gyms.

  96. bespoke

    Not a sorry my bad just I will plagiarise If I wan’t to. Just like last time from 1735099.

  97. cohenite

    After 50 plus years of study in three different institutions I’ve forgotten more about plagiarism than you’ve learned.

    50 years of study and the bastard is still as thick as a brick.

  98. Farmer Gez

    Roger
    #3362486, posted on March 18, 2020 at 5:30 pm
    Everyone should be following my example and lowering their metabolism to get through this time.
    Couch. TV. Sleep 13 hours a day. No sex.

    I was trying to explain to my wife yesterday evening that sex improves the immune system.

    With Roger as a handle, Id expect no less. Onward and upward Rog!

  99. JC

    Cronkite

    Have you hoarded anything at all?

  100. Rockatansky was on the Chris Flannery workout, for sure.

  101. Archivist

    The other deaths are two women, aged 90 and 95, and an 82-year-old man, all from the Dorothy Henderson Lodge aged care facility in Macquarie Park, a 77-year-old woman from NSW and a 78-year-old man from Perth

    The problem is the hospitalisation rate of 20 to 30 percent. When the hospital beds fill up, that becomes the new mortality rate.
    It’s only 1 to 4 percent while we have excellent health care for patients who need it.

  102. MatrixTransform

    The Crazy Old Mole just talked herself out.

    she said she’s going in to watch the archaeological record of how things used to be before the virus … MAFS

  103. Star jumps, one arm pushups, toe touches and some shadow boxing.

    The Chris Flannery workout.
    Yep.
    It’s a good one when all the 34/7 fake gyms shut down.
    Push ups, mofos.

  104. kaysee

    I asked my minister this morning how I can be praying for him, given his great responsibilities. He asked for “prudence”, a word that has been floating around in my head and heart for at least a month.

    And along with prudence, wisdom.
    In many ways, the churches are facing the hardest time of all. In the past, when there has been a crisis, churches have opened their doors. Now, with all the cautions and regulations, they are required to shut their doors.
     
    It is the faithful shepherds for whom this is really difficult.

    Christians know that such notions are not accidents, but prompting. I don’t expect anyone who has not experienced it to understand.

    The temporal and the spiritual.

  105. JC

    Cronkite

    He who hasn’t hoarded shouldn’t throw the first stone and not even a second one either.

  106. notafan

    It’s all over the shop isn’t it Calli?

    Here a man at the park this morning looked at me in wonder and said

    The basketball stadium is closed but the pool is open?

    I feel sorry for shop keeps too.

    One lady said to me the other day as I paid

    ‘First customer this morning’.

    And the coffee shop is near empty.

  107. The god Emperor is coming into his hitting zone with this China virus.
    Killing it, natch.
    Trump to Win by more than 2016 – 4/1
    @BetEasy
    Hehe

  108. Quoting one of of IT’s fitness posts goes straight to the keeper.
    I never liked the guy.
    Good call.

  109. cohenite

    Have you hoarded anything at all?

    Only my conversations with you head prefect; I’ll treasure them for ever.

  110. Farmer Gez

    For example, a scrofulous blog like Catallaxy is not a thesis.
    I’m surprised you have to be told that.

    Not so scrofulous that you won’t fuck off.
    What sort of dickhead praises the Chicoms for handling a virus that has turned into a pandemic. You are literally out of your mind.

  111. Fisky

    There was a delay

    They detained Dr Wenliang on the 3rd of January and forced him to sign a confession. It wasn’t until the 20th of January that XJP even spoke about the issue in public. This is despite the fact he later claimed to have been leading the response from the 7th of January. So yes, there was quite a delay between that and the Wuhan lockdown on the 23rd!

    but once the medical authorities in Wuhan became aware of what they were dealing with, they acted quickly and transparently.

    I see you are dishonestly trying a sleight of hand here. Who the hell disputes that the MEDICAL authorities of Wuhan were trying to respond to the virus, with multiple hospital directors, administrators and thousands of medical staff getting infected???

    The actual argument is that they were hindered, censored and harassed by the POLITICAL authorities, who bear 100% moral responsibility for the pandemic. It’s embarrassing that you are trying to shill for them.

  112. bespoke

    cohenite

    Whats the ethnic background of the driver?

  113. Infidel Tiger

    God I wish I was a farmer.

    Perfect job right now.

  114. notafan

    Italy have yet to triage, hoping extreme quarantine will prevent that happening.

    And you are correct Archivist.

    When triaging starts unnecessary deaths follow.

    letter from an Italian doctor

  115. Arky

    It’s embarrassing that you are trying to shill for them.

    ..
    Even Jane Fonda would blush at some of the dumb shit he arse- dragged across the carpet today.

  116. Infidel Tiger

    Tennis is being cancelled.

    Wouldn’t that be the perfect sport for these crazy times?

    Solitaire in jeopardy soon.

  117. I’m going to try and get a video with GP.
    Possible?
    He’s too hot for the Normies to handle.
    Controversy?
    Lol, it comes with the Black Flag,yo!

  118. Archivist

    And you are correct Archivist.
    When triaging starts unnecessary deaths follow.

    well, ‘unnecessary’ in that if we had infinite ICUs with infinite beds, we could keep the death rate between 1 and 4 percent. When the last ICU bed is filled, the shit will hit the fan, and nobody will be sitting around wondering if this is all an over-reaction.

  119. egg_

    Have you hoarded anything at all?

    Some of us are quasi hoarders by nature, but panicking ants don’t help anyone.

  120. Farmer Gez

    It’s a ripper IT.
    Not crammed in with the stinking masses and only having to deal with machinery and sheep.

  121. God I wish I was a farmer

    Boss niggas got folk working on that.

  122. vlad

    The federal govt tried and failed to restrict interstate travel during WW2.

    Rejected by the HCA in Gratwick v Johnson.

    If WW2 didn’t overrule section 92, no way Wu Flu will.

  123. Bruce of Newcastle

    The closure has greatly affected the scientists

    Antiaircraft guns are a bummer.
    Oh wait, that’s North Korea.

    (From the midweek WIP)

  124. Gez, will a lowered Commo get over the culvert at the start of your driveway?

  125. Caveman

    JP Morgan sees steepening of yield curve won’t save stocks this time.
    Market tonight will more then likely be limit down.
    Article

  126. MatrixTransform

    No – just posting the truth

    nice suit, Numpty

    where was it made?

  127. kaysee

    Are the statistics related to the Diamond Princess a fair representation of the seriousness of this virus? Does it put the panic into perspective?
     
    Diamond Princess 8 Weeks After Coronavirus Outbreak: 7 Dead and 705 Infected Out of 3,711 Passengers and Crew

  128. BorisG

    Arky, as our resident expert here, can you give your opinion as to why our authorities are talking about a significant percentage of the population being infected (in the future) and that it will last at least 6 months.’

    Yet a number of countries (China, Singapore, South Korea, HK etc) have largely beaten the virus in 2 months.

    What do you think?

  129. Infidel Tiger

    All WA schools are devising a “home learning package”, planing for the coming shutdown.

    Just shows how irrelevant school actually is. If the globalists hadn’t turned us into a nation that needs 2 incomes to provide shelter and shitter paper, we could have either mum or dad at home providing instruction.

    And if it wasn’t for the globalists, the effing ChiCom’s wouldn’t have been able to poison us.

  130. Jim Banks (R-IN)

    Rep. Jim Banks (R-IN) said on Monday that the United States should begin forcing China to “pay the burden and the cost incurred” by the U.S. due to the Wuhan coronavirus.

    Banksy reads the Cat!

  131. Push ups,pull ups, running&boxing.
    The MadMax workout.

  132. notafan

    Individuals returning to Australia with coronavirus virus has increased from 189 to 226.

    No wonder Morrison is saying no leaving.

    latest Australian numbers

  133. Ooooooo
    I smell a post Apocalypse business oppo!
    In #MadMax, the MadMax fitness system will be preeminent, surely?
    First mover advantage?

  134. Roger

    The federal govt tried and failed to restrict interstate travel during WW2.

    Rejected by the HCA in Gratwick v Johnson.

    Several state acts enabling emergency powers at state level have been passed since then & survived challenges the HCA has granted the federal executive emergency powers. Would be intersting to see it tested though.

  135. Roger

    With Roger as a handle, Id expect no less. Onward and upward Rog!

    🙂

  136. Jim Banks
    Shaped me an epic mid gun, BITD.
    Respect to the crazy bastard

  137. egg_

    BorisG
    #3362649, posted on March 18, 2020 at 7:21 pm

    Arky’s in a fragile condition exiled from his employment and the parody troll seeks counsel?

  138. egg_

    BorisG
    #3362649, posted on March 18, 2020 at 7:21 pm

    He’s in a fragile condition, exiled from his employment, and you counsel?

  139. 1735099

    Who the hell disputes that the MEDICAL authorities of Wuhan were trying to respond to the virus

    The bulk of posters here, who don’t discriminate between the Chinese government and the Chinese people. Just scroll up. It’s wall-to-wall paranoia, with a dose of xenophobia for good measure. Typical Catallaxy bullshit.
    The Wuhan medical community was already disseminating information about the virus internationally whilst the authorities were stuffing around, a phenomenon that has been repeated, with slight variations, all over the world.
    Once the authorities came on board, the Chinese response was text book as can be seen by the most recent set of statistics.
    The medical response has stuff all to do with the political stamp of any country once the virus arrives, as it inevitably has, given modern international travel. Some jurisdictions (Singapore) have done a good job – some (Italy) haven’t – but that has nothing to do with politics.
    Using the virus as a weapon to bash those you disagree with, or fear, is childish.

  140. Old Lefty

    If the Lismore supermarket bandit was riding a girl’s bicycle and had hair in a bun, the Socialist Left/Green/ABC/Fairfax axis need only scream ‘transphobe’ and the police will drop all charges.

  141. Woolfe

    Situation normal in UK but less traffic. Pub meal and warm flat beer last night, place was packed, Costa coffee shops open serving good flat white, no sign of any panic though hand sanitiser and bog roll gone from Teco. Stiff upper lip chaps.

    Off to Heathrow soon and finally got an email from Qantas offering to refund flight ( re book, no cash)

    Will post another update when checked in.

    Any cats overseas I would advise to get home ASAP.

  142. Notafan:

    I have decided to go to the doctor.
    Sore throat running mild temperature

    Looks like you’re getting the arseless chaps, Nota!
    Lucky bugger…

  143. Infidel Tiger

    Individuals returning to Australia with coronavirus virus has increased from 189 to 226.

    No wonder Morrison is saying no leaving.

    latest Australian numbers

    The smart set (me) were calling for a 100% international travel ban in January.

    We still don’t have that.

    Gota let the Jimmy Grants in. Ponzi!

  144. egg_

    BorisG
    #3362649, posted on March 18, 2020 at 7:21 pm

    He’s in a fragile condition ex iled from his employment and the parody troll seeks counsel?

  145. Snoopy

    Old Lefty
    #3362656, posted on March 18, 2020 at 7:22 pm
    Meanwhile, the ABC reflects the priorities of mainstream Australia (not):

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-18/job-security-fears-among-sex-workers-as-coronavirus-spreads/12067594

    Of course, being TheirABC there has to be a Morrison angle. Hur, hur, hur.

  146. notafan

    South Korea looks a long way from being in control with a lot of active cases but not so many new infections

    latest world coronavirus statistics

  147. What’s Unkie Joes take on the China virus emergency?
    “you’re full of shit!”
    Joe Biden

  148. bespoke

    Very different attitude to triaging the just a few weeks ago, tut tut.

  149. notafan

    Thanks Winston.

    You can have, with my compliments.

  150. kaysee

    The controversial Ethiopian politician and Director General of the World Health Organization (WHO), Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, claimed in a press conference in early March that the fatality rate for the coronavirus was many multiples that of the fatality rate of the common flu.
     
    This egregiously false premise has led to the greatest panic in world history.

    EXCLUSIVE: Evidence Shows Director General of World Health Organization Severely Overstated the Fatality Rate of the Coronavirus Leading to the Greatest Global Panic in History

  151. Infidel Tiger

    Recovery plans for Australia:

    12 month tax holiday for individuals and small business.
    Remove FBT on restaurants, accommodation and domestic travel.
    Nuke China.

    Please add to the list. I’ll have better ideas after cocktail hour.

  152. Roger

    Gota let the Jimmy Grants in. Ponzi!

    Would be good to see the government called out on this by the Opposition.

    Over to you, KKK.

    (Wishful thinking.)

  153. Farmer Gez

    Tailgunner
    #3362644, posted on March 18, 2020 at 7:19 pm
    Gez, will a lowered Commo get over the culvert at the start of your driveway?

    The Labrador would take care of most of the drops.
    The kelpie bitch would clean up the rest once I take her muzzle off.

  154. MatrixTransform

    Using the virus as a weapon to bash those you disagree with, or fear, is childish.

    that is exactly what you’re doing right now

    fuck off you utter retard

  155. notafan

    What are you on about bespoke?

    Triage is normal, and a sad reality when facilities are overwhelmed.

    No one said it was desirable.

  156. egg_

    Those who run our lives were slow to yell fire in case we insulted the Chinese. I’m not saying we should go back to treating them badly, but we should remember that commies always speak with forked tongues.

    /T Blair

  157. Archivist

    Are the statistics related to the Diamond Princess a fair representation of the seriousness of this virus? Does it put the panic into perspective?

    No. Thee are 7 dead (so far) but dozens more were hospitalised. The total number of hospitalisations is the key datum but it’s hard to find. When we run out of ICU beds, those people all die. Right now they don’t.

    In other words, when the hospitals fill up, the mortality figures will abruptly shift upwards. That happened in Wuhan but it’s not captured in the epidemiological data, because non-hospitalised patients were not tested, no matter how severe the case.

  158. calli

    It’s wall-to-wall paranoia,

    This place has followed the whole thing from well before it was a non-story in the MSM.

    It has easily been at least two to three weeks ahead of the curve.

  159. Infidel Tiger

    Triage is normal, and a sad reality when facilities are overwhelmed.

    We have lots of spare space at airports and football stadiums.

  160. calli

    Sorry. That did not make sense. Try again.

    This place was following the whole thing well before it was a story in the MSM.

    Fixed.

  161. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Several state acts enabling emergency powers at state level have been passed since then & survived challenges the HCA has granted the federal executive emergency powers. Would be intersting to see it tested though.

    Thanks to those Cats who provided answers to my question, upthread, about whether Mark McGowan could close off the West Australian border.

  162. Infidel Tiger

    Are the statistics related to the Diamond Princess a fair representation of the seriousness of this virus? Does it put the panic into perspective?

    That will one day be referred to as a war crime what happened on that ship.

    Disgusting abuse of oldies, using them as an experiment.

  163. Eyrie

    Tel, 1000 cycles is enough IF the pack is cheap enough and swapping it out easily is designed in.
    Look at the total system, not the components.

  164. notafan

    Is that not also why covid19 could have a fatality rate of 3 4 percent archivist?

    All boiling down to healthcare being overwhelmed which the various measures being taken by government are intended to prevent?

  165. cohenite

    Whats the ethnic background of the driver?

    I don’t know what you mean.

  166. The kelpie bitch would clean up the rest once I take her muzzle off.

    Hehe, perfect
    I bring TP paper, a wagon full of tools/weapons and the nous&muscle to use them.
    #deplorables
    #ShipwreckSurvivalSkillz

  167. notafan

    A fairer comparison should be to hypothesis what would have happened if government sat on hands and did nothing at all.

  168. notafan

    Archivist

    Is that another way of saying anyone who died at home in China of covid19 was not included in the statistics?

  169. JC

    And it’s off to the races. Aussie breaks 60 cents and now 59.45. This could be a 40ier.

  170. Fisky

    Once the authorities came on board, the Chinese response was text book as can be seen by the most recent set of statistics.

    Sorry, I think you meant to say, “once the political authorities stopped pretending the virus didn’t exist, suppressing information, and lying about it.”

    Did I say “stopped”. Actually the official position of the CCP government as propagated in its state media is that the virus has a FOREIGN origin, and according to some PRC diplomats it was the US army who released it in Wuhan!

    So I think that your concern trolling over “xenophobia” MIGHT have something to say about that.

    Otherwise it’s pretty evident you don’t know anything at all about the the CCP’s response to the Coronavirus, as evidenced by your trying to credit the release of its genetic sequencing to the CCP’s “transparency” when in fact they shut down the responsible laboratory the very next day! Pathetic, but not surprising.

  171. It has easily been at least two to three weeks ahead of the curve.
    Yes.
    This is why the switched on get their news from here.
    :Profit:
    #ZombieAttack!

  172. I’m not carting hay&shit, though.
    🤣

  173. mh

    UK death toll lotto:

    Last night’s numbers came in slightly lower than my expectations for a total of 71.

    Tonight’s tip – 95

  174. Arky

    Yet a number of countries (China, Singapore, South Korea, HK etc) have largely beaten the virus in 2 months.

    What do you think?

    ..
    No one has beaten it. Taiwan has 23 new cases after looking the best of all the Asian nations.
    These nations are well ordered and civic minded, and used to dealing with this type of thing. It is common in Taiwan for those at the first sign of a cold to wear a mask to prevent spreading. Doctors tell ’em to, and they comply.
    But it’s impossible to know Boris.
    My guess, entirely a guess, because I’m getting bored with the topic, and have not done any calculations lately, and I aren’t an epidemiologist anyway, is:
    Waves of the thing echo-ing around the globe and internally in many countries for what? Who knows? Six months? A year?
    But increasing immunity damping it down, with improved treatments after the peaks making people more relaxed.
    A needle for it? Doubt it. Not for years probably.
    It might not be eradicated completely. We might have to permanently alter some stuff.
    Quarantines or mandated self isolation after international flights may be semi- permanent. Or improved testing might make that redundant.
    Stricter boarder security from countries who up till now thought porous borders were cute.
    And, most importantly of all: All countries will beef up their own industries wrt drug and medical equipment, protective gear.
    We are smart people. We will find systems and work arounds. The economy will roar back.
    The thing to watch is deep state turds using it as an excuse for a power grab/ empire building.

  175. Shoosh, JC, currency speculation will look silly once your ride is a flaming wreck on the side of Glenferrie Rd and the Gang just rode off with your gewels!
    Listen to Winston for once.
    He’s the Cassandra

  176. Zatara

    Triage is normal, and a sad reality when facilities are overwhelmed.

    We have lots of spare space at airports and football stadiums.

    And cruise ships. The US is already making noises about chartering a few if necessary.

  177. Areff:

    Marilyn Shepherd
    @MarilynShephe15
    Replying to
    @ElizaJBarr
    I checked yrs ago and found out he goes to that little church in his borough, but pentacostals in general are dangerous rabid dogs. they spread hate and greed and selfishness and bigotry and racism all over the world and they have run the white house for decades.

    There’s not much insight happening there, eh?

  178. JC

    There are 110 new cases on the Chinese virus meter for Australia today. If this compounds daily at 24% we’ll have 358,000 in a month’s time. That’s a big nut to crack, but it won’t get there, I think.

  179. BorisG

    South Korea looks a long way from being in control with a lot of active cases but not so many new infections

    Sure. This means in control in my book.

  180. Fisky

    Yet a number of countries (China, Singapore, South Korea, HK etc) have largely beaten the virus in 2 months

    The name you are looking for is TAIWAN. Flawless response to the pandemic from day one. Maybe the PRC should stop blocking them from the WHO, they might have something to share!

  181. I can’t believe Bad Samaritan has totally Punk’d out this election cycle.
    Weak sauce, biatch

  182. bespoke

    Triage is normal in a realistic world.
    unless you live in montys/wangs world and have a personal ICU on standby.

  183. mh

    Great reminder from the Fisk

    The name you are looking for is TAIWAN. Flawless response to the pandemic from day one. Maybe the PRC should stop blocking them from the WHO, they might have something to share!

  184. JC

    The thing to watch is deep state turds using it as an excuse for a power grab/ empire building.

    How libertarian of you arkenwald. 🙂

    We might have to permanently alter some stuff.
    Quarantines or mandated self isolation after international flights may be semi- permanent. Or improved testing might make that redundant.

    Perhaps immediate quarantine restrictions from impacted countries in the future. I very much doubt the US/Australia route would ever be permanently restricted in any way.

  185. Arky

    The name you are looking for is TAIWAN. Flawless response to the pandemic from day one. Maybe the PRC should stop blocking them from the WHO, they might have something to share!

    ..
    They were fortunate.
    In an attempt to influence the election in favour of the Goumindang, the Chinese cut off tourism last year to Taiwan.
    You could walk around tourist spots without being shoved aside by coach loads of chicoms.
    Rather than punish Taiwan, the Chinese accidentally did them the huge favour of not infecting the place with the plague!

  186. BorisG

    But increasing immunity damping it down, with improved treatments after the peaks making people more relaxed.

    Arky, are you basically saying the crisis is far from over in those countries and will last for months? But I know for a fact that life is returning to normal in many parts of China…

    Can’t we follow a similar example?

  187. And 45 out to even money, for the slow learners class.
    Carnage helps Trump.
    He IS the Leader you need when MadMax is approaching!
    Yet his odds ease?
    Ahahahahaha
    The SkyNet Book don’t hunt!
    🤣🤣🤣😎😎😎

  188. egg_

    Yet a number of countries (China, Singapore, South Korea, HK etc) have largely beaten the virus in 2 months

    The dead don’t cough on anyone?

  189. cohenite

    A couple more books and their blurbs to take our minds off the imminent apocalypse:

    Counter Girl: Men couldn’t keep their eyes on the menu; nor their thoughts on food when Carrie leaned over and innocently asked: Would you like something else?
    Of G-strings and Strippers: they strutted shamelessly before greedy eyes.

  190. After 50 plus years of study in three different institutions I’ve forgotten more about plagiarism than you’ve learned.

    Boggo Road/Pentridge/Callan Park.
    God help me, I couldn’t resist.

  191. And I know we beat poor old Ant senseless…
    But twas allll in gud fun!?
    Ant, get in here and get on the Train, mate!

  192. egg_

    I thought we had a “20% chance of war with the PRC” at the height of Cat COVID-19 fever?
    The pandemic is slowing?

  193. Arky

    In this video I made last year, you can see how beautiful Taiwan is without tonnes of yammering old women from the mainland swamping everything:


  194. Fisky

    Once the authorities came on board, the Chinese response was text book as can be seen by the most recent set of statistics.

    Let’s get something straight. You don’t have a fucking clue about anything relating to this issue or how the authorities responded to it at any level (that was evident a while ago, but citing WIKIPEDIA on anything related to the PRC is a pretty obvious, and hilarious, tell). Got it? You shouldn’t even bother posting about it.

  195. Infidel Tiger

    We might have to permanently alter some stuff.
    Quarantines or mandated self isolation after international flights may be semi- permanent. Or improved testing might make that redundant.

    A complete and total ban on all travel to and from China and an 8 week quarantine period for anyone who has been there should be the global standard.

    Pariah State.

    China. Did. This.

  196. BorisG

    HOK was also very impressive. Note they have huge traffic with PRC and the government refused to completely seal the border. Somehow they managed.

  197. Zatara

    But I know for a fact that life is returning to normal in many parts of China…

    Boris, until you post a time stamped selfie of you standing in the Wuhan wet market what you know for a fact is worthless.

  198. Roger

    And, most importantly of all: All countries will beef up their own industries wrt drug and medical equipment, protective gear.

    All sensible countries will…

    As for Australia, well – it remains to be seen, doesn’t it?

    This is a country whose strategic petroleum reserve is presently located in Texas & Louisiana, for heaven’s sake.

    We’ll probably sign an “agreement” with the PRC to supply us with drugs & medical equipment in an emergency.

  199. Arky, I’ll be real – that Taiwan video is pretty good.
    I only do shit raw because I’m a low tech arts grad.
    In lockdown I’m gonna learn to edit.

  200. calli

    I liked Ant very much. And he stuck to his guns. Admirable.

    G.K. Chesterton — ‘A dead thing can go with the stream, but only a living thing can go against it.’

    I hope he returns for the re-run.

  201. BorisG

    Let’s get something straight. You don’t have a fucking clue about anything relating to this issue or how the authorities responded to it at any level (that was evident a while ago, but citing WIKIPEDIA on anything related to the PRC is a pretty obvious, and hilarious, tell). Got it? You shouldn’t even bother posting about it.

    Fisk, rather an piles of abuse, can you say what Chinese did wrong after initial denials and complacency?

  202. Ed Case

    India has 3 cases.
    Some fools might laugh, but think of the exponentials, tomorrow it could be 6, 12 on friday and a Billion by Easter.

  203. Infidel Tiger

    HOK was also very impressive. Note they have huge traffic with PRC and the government refused to completely seal the border. Somehow they managed.

    Yes I’m sure we can trust there stats.

  204. Cassie of Sydney

    “But I know for a fact that life is returning to normal in many parts of China…”

    You wonder why I get angry…..please post your “facts” about life returning to “normal” in China…..how the feck would you know?

  205. 1735099

    Let’s get something straight.

    The facts are verifiable.
    Sorry they don’t accord with your ignorance.
    Not my problem.

  206. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Boggo Road/Pentridge/Callan Park.
    God help me, I couldn’t resist.

    +100, Winston.

  207. vlad

    Several state acts enabling emergency powers at state level have been passed since then & survived challenges the HCA has granted the federal executive emergency powers. Would be intersting to see it tested though.

    As certain as any such question could be that the HCA wouldn’t uphold such a ban. Apart from the legalities, the politics of such a ban would be counter to those currently prevailing at Gar’s Mahal. No way this court would overturn such a landmark civil liberties decision as Gratwick. You’d have more luck getting them to outlaw the Communist Party.

  208. Fisky

    But I know for a fact that life is returning to normal in many parts of China…

    And I know for a fact that if you try to fly there, you’ll be locked in a quarantine hotel for 2 weeks at your expense. In fact I already told you that weeks ago before it was publicly announced. I might be onto something hey…

  209. Infidel Tiger

    Boris, whoever is on the other end of your Huawei Phone is a moron.

    Get a different paymaster.

  210. MatrixTransform

    MiL confirms that the reavers have been through Diniliquin as well

  211. MatrixTransform

    you know where I mean

  212. Geriatric Mayfly

    Why is my rural supermarket displaying screeds near the checkout, advising punters on basic courtesies and to refrain from aggressive and unwelcome behaviour? Country folk are usually too well mannered to need such reminders. I daresay, like most hamlets these days, welfare pockets exist and with them come the ingestion of mood modifiers.

  213. mh

    Tailgunner, video idea for you,

    Chase down the teams of bat botherers using vans to empty Victorian country towns of groceries.
    Cameras set up on the dplrbl.
    Siren blasting.

  214. Fisky

    The facts are verifiable

    LOL you didn’t even bother to verify them yourself,
    moron. The genetic sequencing claim was the most hilarious own goal of the lot. Pitiful, but I should cut you some slack – you are unquestionably doing your very best!

  215. Old School Conservative

    Zatara
    #3362508, posted on March 18, 2020 at 5:54 pm
    Here is the entire CCP propaganda article in Wikipedia regarding the Wuhan Virus.
    Damn but that looks familiar doesn’t it?

    Any decent schoolteacher would put that through Turnitin or a similar plagiarism checker.

  216. MatrixTransform

    But I know for a fact that life is returning to normal in many parts of China

    Boz’s Man-In-Wuhan lives … more bicycles for everybody

  217. Archivist

    JC, That Tom-Tom data suggests that things have not returned to normal at all. But at any rate we can’t rely on any metrics out of China any more.
    The CCP narrative is now “we have solved Covid19”, and they will do anything they can to promote that message.

  218. 8th Dan

    Zali Steggall has put her plans for world salvation on hold because something real is happening

    Steggall is a one trick pony who will achieve nothing and be gone at or before the next election.
    Most likely replaced by Mike Baird … but that won’t matter.
    Anthony Albanese will then be Prime Minister.

  219. The $18 sirloin keeps the hunger pangs at bay.
    #preppersonbeans

  220. egg_

    Italy
    Cases: 31,506
    Deaths: 2,503 (8%)
    % Chinese itinerant workers?

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/

  221. cohenite

    Barring biden turning up at his next rally buck naked with a tattoo on his arse saying he loves chunks he appears to be a shoo in as the demorat candidate. Just think the demorats will have a genuinely senile presidential candidate up against arguably the best political debater ever.

  222. cohenite

    Anthony Albanese will then be Prime Minister.

    Rub and tugs for everyone! What will you do dickless on account you have no dick.

  223. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Anthony Albanese will then be Prime Minister.

    I’ve more chance of becoming the Pope.

  224. MatrixTransform

    a one trick pony

    do try to fit in, retard

  225. egg_

    India has 3 cases.

    Oz Call Centre Managers sh1tting themselves.

  226. Arky

    Arky, I’ll be real – that Taiwan video is pretty good.

    ..
    Two weeks filming, not counting the day in hospital, and two days editing.

  227. Geriatric Mayfly

    Spam now flying off the shelves here as the moderator pounces.

    Why is my rural supermarket displaying screeds near the checkout, advising punters on basic courtesies and to refrain from aggressive and unwelcome behaviour? Rustics are usually too well mannered to need such reminders. I daresay, like most hamlets these days, C-link pockets exist and with them come the ingestion of mood modifiers.

  228. JC

    against arguably the best political debater ever.

    Oh turn it off. He doesn’t debate. What he does is akin to a Wrestle Mania bout. It’s hugely entertaining though.
    And you’re so ghey.

  229. Bruce of Newcastle

    Meanwhile, the ABC reflects the priorities of mainstream Australia (not)

    For once they’ve got a point. 😀

    Uh Oh. German Brothels Latest Victims Of Pandemic

    Disaster! Krauts will be stuck with their missuses and no other nooky.

  230. egg_

    HOK was also very impressive. Note they have huge traffic with PRC and the government refused to completely seal the border. Somehow they managed.

    Yes I’m sure we can trust there stats.

    +1
    Sanity check, right there.

  231. egg_

    Anthony Albanese will then be Prime Minister.

    Trolls trying to outdo each other?

  232. Geriatric Mayfly

    Spam now flying off the shelves here as the moderator pounces. Third attempt

    Why is my rural supermarket displaying screeds near the checkout, advising punters on basic courtesies and to refrain from aggressive and unwelcome behaviour? Rustics are usually too well mannered to need such reminders. I daresay, like most hamlets these days, C-link pockets exist and with them come disagreeable tendencies aroused by certain pharmaceuticals.

  233. Bruce of Newcastle

    Steggall is a one trick pony who will achieve nothing

    Yes. When it comes to science she’s an excellent skier.

  234. JC

    Trump/Hillary third debate. Trump is always interrupting and deservedly too. Trump’s rules of debating. There are no rules.

  235. C.L.

    Thursday tomorrow and nothing from the High Court re Pell.
    No joy?

  236. Struth

    There go my gigs.
    Thanks, you panicking fucking gullible twat Australians.

    six fucking deaths and a nation brought to it’s knees.

  237. Off to the local shops at 7:am to pick-up some critical supplies like coffee beans, olives, prawns, artisanal sausages; you know the sort of stuff that may become critical in a crisis.
    Supermarket had no meat, so I wandered down to the local artisanal butcher who I only patronise when we have guests. His stuff is great but outrageously expensive.
    “How ya going” “Yeah, we are OK. The cool room staff are bitching about the pace but it won’t last long because the wholesalers are faltering”.
    “Can you fill this bag”. “Yep, no probs”.
    So, if the millennial who_res have sentenced me to a death on a stretcher on the footpath outside the hospital, I will die knowing that all of their inheritance was spent on my bowels.
    “OK Boomer”? “Yep you grasping snowflake ass hole”. “Enjoy your turnips.”
    As a JC PS moment, the daughter is married to a gee wiz Marylebone real estate spiv. She regularly reduced her mother to tears when our plans to fly over to visit the grand kids were rejected as “not convenient”.
    Spivo’s customers are exclusively Chinese gangsters, Arab wives, and Balkan whor_re runners.
    Sucker Dad’s response to an appeal for help when their market disappeared was supportive. Um! My mind was changed when the Mother introduced me to some chaps that you would not meet at the local bowles club.

  238. JC

    What the fed should do explained really well.

    This was back in 2011, but also appropriate now.

    http://dolanecon.blogspot.com/2011/01/what-is-price-level-targeting-has-its.html

  239. Siltstone

    Arky, I remember your Taiwan video from a number of moons ago. It seems that the countries doing best from the get go (e.g Taiwan) and later on (after wasting 3 weeks – mainland) use temperature monitoring relentlessly. High temperature = isolation. Statistically it doesn’t matter about false positives and false negatives, if they are 50% right they are much better off.

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