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45 Responses to COVID-19 Information

  1. Archivist

    Johns Hopkins had the very first dashboard up and running in January.
    The World Health Organization plagiarised it when they got their (identical) dashboard up and running weeks later.

  2. Gab

    I’ve been following the Woeldometer and the Johns Hopkins one and notice that the latter lags behind in formation uodates to that of the former.

    And Sinclair, would it be possible to make the links automatically open in a new tab when we click on them here, please?

  3. Gab

    I’ve been following the Worldometer and the Johns Hopkins one and notice that the latter lags behind in updating the figures to that of the former.

    And Sinclair, would it be possible to make the links automatically open in a new tab when we click on them here, please?

  4. MACK

    At Our World in Data, you can go to “Growth: Country by country view”. The first column is days to double, and when this gets up to six days or more, things are being controlled (Australia is at three now). The right hand bar graph (Daily new confirmed) shows you the number of new cases each day, and when that turns down, it also shows things are improving. That’s what to monitor.

  5. Chris M

    Sorry that was a rip-off version, this is the correct link and more current:

  6. egg_

    Flatten the curve!

    Repeat after me.

  7. Gab

    Ok, egg:

    Anfractum complanemus!

  8. Sinclair Davidson

    And Sinclair, would it be possible to make the links automatically open in a new tab when we click on them here, please?

    You learn something new every day – done.

  9. Gab

    Oh you are clever as well as handsome, Sinclair. It there no end to your talents etc etc

  10. Gerard

    Can mosquitoes transfer the virus????

  11. stackja

    WHO do you trust? WHO slow to report pandemic. Trust WHO SG?

  12. I still think that the critical metric is number of people currently hospitalised. Damned hard to find.

  13. Bruce

    Thought for the day:

    “Two decades of the precautionary principle as the key policy tool for managing uncertainties has neutered risk management capacities by offering, as the only approach, the systematic removal of any exposure to any hazard. As the risk-averse precautionary mindset cements itself, more and more of us have become passive docilians waiting to be nannied.”

    – David Zaruk

  14. Exit Stage Right

    The stats for most countries are all over the place.
    Can’t believe any of the reporting.
    But who can you believe? Not the MSM, WHO or the Australian Govt.
    What is the REAL situation?
    We are not being told the TRUTH! Governments don’t shut down their entire economies based on the stats being shown.
    Donald not convinced. What the fuck is happening?

  15. Rafe Champion

    One of the critical metrics is the number hospitalized as bradd suggested, or more precisely the number in intensive care to show how close we are getting to the point where where people are waiting in line for access to respirators (with the staff to operate them). Another factor is the time it takes to get off the respirator.

  16. stackja

    Rafe – Extending life should be limited. Old and sick let them go.
    Sad probably. Why prolong?

  17. Rafe Champion

    You have a good point but one to handle with care!
    Some in the system have always used commonsense and let very old and very sick people who are suffering for no future to slip painlessly away.
    Others perform heroics to prolong the suffering and there are alarming estimates of the % of hospital costs incurred by patients who are terminally ill. Other lives are lost on that account.
    A tricky topic these days esp in Daniel Andrews territory.

  18. Cynic of Ayr

    My cynicism come from a few sources.
    One is Donald Trump. You can tell by the look on his face, and the answers he gives, that A. he realises the patients have a problem, but B. he doesn’t believe the solution is to kill all the patients.
    Two is the ABC, and Peta Credlin. The first says anything that comes into their collective heads, as long as it fits the narrative. The second has NO solutions to offer, just questions on how we are going to treat a million people. Both seem to delight in bad news. Gleeson is worse. He lectures! (And I used to like Credlin and Sky.)
    Three is it is exceptionally easy to decide to allow older people to die, as they are old, and the decider is young. Revenge? It is exceptionally easy to send young people off to die in Wars, as they are young. The USA oldies sent off 50,000 youngies to die in Vietnam. Untold is the number of babies murdered in abortion every day.
    When it’s all added up, I wonder how many are killed or ruined by the cure for the disease, compared to how many the disease actually killed.
    I note Italy. IF one has the disease, and dies of any cause at all, it’s counted as a disease kill. I’m not too sure Australia isn’t similar to some degree.

  19. Stanley

    Is COVID-19 affecting CO2 measurements at Mauna Loa? The analyser of CO2 in dry air has been out of action for the past three days and there are no readings. Sounds like a job for BOM to adjust the record!

  20. Tim

    Who gives a toss about dashboards. What is needed is results.

    The dumb bastards organising the current response have not stated what the goals are, but I would suggest it is to minimise the impact on both health and business. Flatern the curve, give me a break. That is not a goal, how is it measured etc.

    Given this, I would suggest the solution has been in front of them all the time.

    In agriculture we deal with outbreaks of this and that all the time. We dont shut down the country to do it. What happens is the biosecurity measures / plans are put in place whether it is maintaining the tick line, animal viruses or the like.

    For example when the hendra virus killed vets and others, horses were banned from travel etc. The racing industry kept going in areas that were not affected. THIS is what needed to happen with Corona virus. Identify infected areas lock them down, not travel in or out unless biosecurity measures were first undertaken and let the rest of the nation get on with living. We do not need to isolate western towns unless there have been travelers in and out of them that have had or are likely to have had contact with someone from an infected area. Its not rocket science. As areas are cleaned up take them out of the infected areas list and put them in the clean area list and let them get on with living.

  21. louis

    This has been a major cock-up brought to us by people who think one of the largest countries on earth doesn’t exist beyond the boundaries of Canberra, Sydney, Melbourne and sometimes Brisbane, Adelaide and Perth.

    Why the fuck you would lock down there entire nation for outbreaks in the capital cities is beyond me. At the very least it should have been staged across areas. Uncritical acceptance of worse cases scenario based on biased sample sizes, modelled on countries smaller than almost all of our States with populations multiple more times Australia.

    Get ready for arse covering in the extreme.

    The excuse will be that “if we didn’t do what we did it would have been far worse”. Once a test is widely available to see who got the virus and recovered, but wasn’t included in the ‘infected’ statistics this should be able to be debunked.

    The other thing will be inflated death numbers. This should also be able to be debunked once we are able to see the statistics showing huge drops in other causes of death during the relevant period.

    At the end of the day, any death is sad but I predict overall in Australia there will be more deaths from suicide and failure to provide proper medical care for pre-existing conditions (e.g. by putting off transplants and all other surgeries) than there will be from corona virus. Last I checked, ‘elective surgery’ was surgery for any condition that won’t likely kill you in the next 7 days!
    And you can increase that death toll again from increased crime once they let prisoners out.

    BTW I am also very concerned at how enthusiastic our Prime Minster and Premiers have become about law by dictate. That a press release is equivalent to a written law.

  22. Mark M

    The same insane people who brought you failed doomsday global warming are now in charge of CoVid 19.
    It won’t end well.
    Lubis Motl explains …

    “Westerners who haven’t seen any real threats for a long time have developed a condition – termed “affluenflammation”… a pathological habit of inflating negligible threats.
    When this inflation of feelings is applied to a real threat, namely a pandemic, they lose their composure

    Many think Covid-19 is some kind of alien invasion that spells the end of the world.
    But the real threat to us is a much deadlier virus: a hatred of all the values that have underpinned our civilisation for centuries.” …

    https://www.rt.com/op-ed/484041-west-suicide-covid19-response/

  23. Petros

    Can’t find a suitable thread for this but here goes: People who work from home should not be able to claim workcover or sue their employer for injuries they sustain at home. If the Libs were smart they would put this into place now. There I said it.

  24. Rafe Champion

    Under normal conditions there can be stringent requirements for the homes of would-be workers from home to minimise the risk of Workcover claims.

  25. Some of the Aussie numbers at Worldometer are way out.

    Worldometer discrepancy counting Aussie CV daily new cases
    http://www.warwickhughes.com/blog/?p=6459

  26. TFX

    An observation on the latest number of new cases on the worldometers website that I cannot explain is that Australia is the leading nation to report the highest absolute increase but five of the top 10 nations reporting are in the southern hemisphere. Does anyone have an explanation for the overrepresentation of Southern hemisphere nations.

  27. yarpos

    “Who gives a toss about dashboards. What is needed is results. ”

    how do you expect to achieve results if you dont have measurements to determine the efficacy of what you are doing? you beleive in magic I guess?

  28. Chris M

    Well what on earth is going on? Suddenly this afternoon deaths on the two online meters in Australia jump from 14 to 457?? With a nice proportional breakdown per state NSW – 212 VIC – 111 SA – 30 QLD – 70 WA – 23 ACT – 9 TAS – 1 NT – 1 on Johns Hopkins, ncov2019.live is the same except 4 in TAS.

    This is Alex Jones level. Who is programming this stuff? Spooky, the numbers are all pre-programmed in advance for release or what?

  29. OldOzzie

    STUDY: YES, HALF OF CORONAVIRUS CARRIERS SHOW NO SYMPTOMS
    ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT STUDIES (AND LESSONS) ON CORONAVIRUS TESTING TO DATE.

    What we’re learning from Iceland this week is as fascinating as it is crucial to fighting the coronavirus epidemic: That somewhere in the neighborhood of half of everyone testing positive for the coronavirus will show absolutely no symptoms.

    The hard data, out of Iceland, straight from their (impressive) health ministry’s dedicated COVID-19 page:
    – As of March 25, Iceland has administered 12,615 tests.
    – Of those tests, Iceland has found 802 confirmed cases.
    – While it might not sound like a lot, in a sparsely-populated nation of around 364,000 citizens, it’s an impressive number. They’ve nearly tested 3.4 percent of the entire country (compared to the United States, and according to the COVID-19 Project data tracker: we’ve tested 432,655 of our 327 million citizens, or just a tenth of one percent of our country’s population). Iceland currently claims to have tested more citizens per capita] than any other country in the world.

    Needless to say, Iceland’s efforts are revealing fascinating and potentially lifesaving details about the virus. And via BuzzFeed News, it’s how they came to the striking conclusion about symptom rates, emphasis ours:

    “Early results from deCode Genetics indicate that a low proportion of the general population has contracted the virus and that about half of those who tested positive are non-symptomatic,” said [Iceland’s chief epidemiologist Thorolfur] Guðnason. “The other half displays very moderate cold-like symptoms.”

    In Iceland, again, they’re just testing, testing, testing, whoever they can, whenever they can.

    They haven’t implemented a lockdown or a curfew, but they have banned gatherings of over 20 people, advised quarantine measures, and again: Test, test, test. Having widespread testing allows them to isolate those with the virus, and thus, the virus itself. Even more, it empowers Iceland to continue some semblance of life as it normally is — more than many, many other places in the world without the kind of testing operation that they have can say for themselves right now. In other words: Iceland’s citizenry might be small, but what they lack for in size, they more than make up for in power — by doing nothing more than being accounted for, handing out an urgent lesson the entire world can stand to learn from right now.

  30. NoFixedAddress

    Another couple of charts to bear in mind

    ABS 3302.0 – Deaths, Australia, 2018 (includes 2008 and 2017)
    https://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/[email protected]/mf/3302.0

    ABS 3303.0 – Causes of Death, Australia, 2018 (includes 2009 and 2013)
    https://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/[email protected]/PrimaryMainFeatures/3303.0?OpenDocument

  31. TFX

    I admit I do not know how they classify issues such as time limits in their statistics but in the latest worldometers data they show that in closed cases for coronavirus, there was a death rate of 18% with only 82% classified as recovered\discharged. How does this actual case rate relate to the forecast death rate of around 1% for coronavirus.

  32. Jonesy

    If the meter is to believed…we have been dropping every day for new cases. This metric is probably more important than the ratio of seriously ill/dead compared to the total number of recorded casaes

  33. Tim Neilson

    Note that, despite the Hunchback of Spring Street’s impressive attempts to be Australia’s Most Fascistic, Victoria’s ratio of locally acquired cases to overseas acquired cases is the worst in Australia (or maybe on a par with NSW).

    It’s almost like mindless totalitarianism doesn’t always work effectively.

  34. notafan

    We have the Portsea Toorak set to thank for that!

  35. yarpos

    Adding euromomo tracking of overall European death from all causes might also be instructive in regard to the big picture

    It tracks weekly rates of death and shows them against historic seasonal trends

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