Thursday Forum: March 26, 2020

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  1. Arky

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #3377205, posted on March 26, 2020 at 2:25 pm
    Chinese company shipped out millions of Australia’s masks, hand sanitiser, glove supplies
    A Chinese government-backed company amassed Australia’s supplies of masks, hand sanitiser, antibacterial wipes and shipped them to China.

    ..
    The most fascinating thing about this thread is how many people can just skim over this post Zippy and it apparently makes zero fucking connection in their brain cells.
    The same dickheads who for weeks have been viciously attacking phantoms left right and centre are entirely unable to process simple information and understand the meaning.
    I guess maybe seeing it in action with my own eyes back in January gave me a headstart.
    But it didn’t really.
    I went door to door questioning chemists about N95 masks not because we really needed them personally, but because I predicted Chinese diaspora would begin smurfing them. My prediction was immediately confirmed. Across the globe masks disappeared within days, and I watched it in real time and reported it here.
    I likewise predicted the food panic, and like you, gave people a heads up here. Then we figured out that the lack of essential supplies like masks would lead to what occurred in Italy and Spain.
    I didn’t know exactly where it would occur, but I knew the gear required had been swept up and posted off to china, and in at least some locations that would be deadly for us in the West.
    But apparently it’s more productive to speculate on the still unpredictable course of the epidemic than to focus on why we are in the position of not being able to deal with it.
    I might hope your posts would wake people up, but they are dumber than I thought.

  2. Zatara

    Propagandists at the Senate Press Conference are being dicks as usual.

    McConnell ends it after two ‘questions’.

  3. twostix

    Boy, pro CCP articles like this from November certainly have not aged well.

    The warning couldn’t have been more stark: ignore the opportunities in Asia and living standards in Tasmania will likely decline.

    Oops!

  4. Fisky

    Arky, “free traders” are totally fine with that. The same people would have been ok with the Irish Potato Famine, which was made much worse by “free trade”.

  5. Top Ender

    Just out in the Spectator:

    Battlefields are Minefields

    By Top Ender

    Given the long-running debate on battlefield behaviour in our combat troops, it is worthwhile pointing out there is considerable opportunity for confusion in such areas. Here is a catalogue of actual historical events which might give pause for thought.

    In World War I the Australian soldier Albert Jacka VC stormed a trench with four Germans in it who were firing at him. He kept going, however, and eventually the Germans “…flung down their rifles and put up their hands.” However, he shot three and bayoneted the fourth, explaining: “I had to do it – they would have killed me the moment I turned my back.” War criminal?

    In January 1945 six German SS officers were captured by two men of Easy Company of the USA’s 101st Airborne, in an assault on the village of Rachamps. Second later, when a shell exploded nearby, one of the Germans pulled a knife from his boot and slashed it across an American’s throat; the other US soldier machinegunned all six. Is this a war crime?

    Parachutist David Webster’s unit participated in a surprise night assault a few days after their D-Day landing. They were exhorted to use knifes and bayonets, then grenades where necessary, but not to take prisoners, because “…we can’t be dragging a lot of prisoners around with us at night”. US Army General Maxwell Taylor told US paratroopers before their jump on D-Day not to take prisoners, a command passed down by his officers, who told their men on getting into their aircraft: “No prisoners. We are not taking any prisoners”. Some of this may well have been due to the realisation of the nature of this attack: it depended on speed and surprise, and it was essential to get enough men ashore fast and to push the Germans back far enough to allow that, otherwise the precarious foothold on Europe may well have been lost. Is this behaviour excusable or chargeable?

    US soldier EB Sledge’s unit took a Japanese prisoner on Okinawa towards the end of that WWII campaign. Their prize was wearing nothing but a G-string and weighed about 50 kilograms. He was docile, and the unit was sitting around on their helmets, having called their medical corpsman over to check out the Japanese. Suddenly, out of his G-string, the prisoner produced a grenade, and pulled the pin, but not quickly enough to prevent one of the Americans shooting him with his pistol. Is this justifiable?

    Guy Sajer, fighting in WWII in the German Army, had his first experience of combat in a small action which saw one foreign semi-civilian partisan wounded, and another killed. When he tried to get the wounded man onto a passing train full of injured being taken to the rear the lieutenant in charge was incredulous. “Do you really think I’m going to saddle myself with one of those bastards who’ll shoot you in the back any time…” and he ordered two soldiers to shoot the partisan immediately. Cautionary behaviour or unjustified?

    In Okinawa the Japanese military drove civilians, including children, towards the front lines of American Marines. Supposing them to be troops, the US soldiers opened fire. One of the soldiers involved thought the Japanese did it for two reasons: to get the Americans to expend ammunition, and to lower their morale when they found out what they had done. In the latter case it apparently indeed had a devastating effect when the men saw the results of their actions. Should those men have been charged?

    In the Korean War PFC Leonard Korgie wrote: “People dressed in white – civilians being driven in front of the enemy or North Koreans dressed as civilians – appeared on the opposite hill, hundreds of them. They came down the hill and into the valley heading straight for us.” They were shot down by the US soldiers defending the position. Should we find those American soldiers, if there are any still alive, and charge them? On another occasion in Korea the correct nature of the foe could not be identified. At the fighting in Seoul PFC Francis Killeen’s company “spotted a small party of soldiers, the rest we took for guerillas” who they shot at. They turned out to be civilian villagers. Are Killeen and his comrades war criminals?

    In the Falklands War a British Harrier aircraft targeted an unarmed Argentine Hercules transport aircraft bringing in supplies at night, attacking it with a missile and cannon fire. The missile hit one wing between the engines, and knowing of the fire-suppression system on board, the pilot, Lieutenant Commander “Sharkey” Ward, closed and attacked the aircraft further with his guns. The aircraft crashed into the sea and there were no survivors. Is Ward guilty of a crime?

    Two particularly horrible incidents from Vietnam finish this reflection. Most soldiers ponder possibly killing civilians by mistake, but until the time comes, when one has to make that decision, it is not easily understood. In any war against an enemy who can become a combatant simply by taking up arms, there will be confusion, mistakes, mayhem and death. For civilians seeing conflict on TV, they will inevitably rail against the seemingly savage and morally wrong dimensions of the conflict. Yet, not being there, and seeing only a fragment of the picture, leads to distortion of the reality of what is often self-defence. A US Army sergeant in Vietnam related:

    Yesterday I shot and killed a little 8-or 9-year old girl, with the sweetest, most innocent little face, and the nastiest grenade in her hand, that you ever saw. Myself and six others were walking along, when she ran out to throw that grenade at us. Of course there is always the old argument that it was either us or her, but what in hell right did I have to kill a little child?

    Marine John A. Daube recalled:

    One day a Vietnamese boy about eight years old approached our group wearing a knapsack. It looked like the bookbags kids use today. It was in the middle of the summer, so we were pretty certain there was no school. A reflection of the sun highlighted a wire that ran over the kid’s shoulder and down his arm. One of the Marines shot him. As the child fell, he pulled the wire and blew himself up. This may sound barbaric to some, but it was common for the VC to sacrifice their children just to kill a few Marines.

    Judging our forces’ combat behaviour is no easy matter.

    -o-o-O-o-o-

    Top Ender is the author of Lethality in Combat (Big Sky), which discusses the realities of battle. He commanded a US forces unit as an ADF officer, in the Iraq War.

  6. You often say that conscripts don’t fit the ANZAC myth. They do, you just don’t understand ANZAC. It’s about taking your lumps, dusting yourself off, and getting on with it, lest you let your mates down.
    Conscripts that just manned up and got on with it, fit the myth in spades. You however….

    I have never said that.
    What I did say is the the ANZAC myth has been conscripted by some in an attempt to rationalise and sanitise the political and strategic disaster that was Vietnam. Honest writing about the war, especially by ex-Nashos, is pushed aside.
    The ANZAC myth is a very poor fit for Vietnam.
    Hence we get mythology like “Every National Serviceman who went to Vietnam was a volunteer”.
    As for my service, unless you served with me you have no idea and no right to pass judgement.
    You simply wouldn’t know.
    On the subject of mythology, most of what is written here about my experience is utter bullshit, but you and a few other mouth breathers here fall for it.
    I really couldn’t give a stuff.
    I get smeared here, not because of my service record, but because of my politics.

  7. thefrollickingmole

    I certainly did everything in my power to escape being used as political collateral.

    And just to be clear, I think conscription is awful, but it must be mandatory for teachers alone.

    I believe there was a couple of options you didnt take.
    https://www.awm.gov.au/articles/encyclopedia/viet_app
    Indefinite deferments were granted to registrants who married before callup; to those with a serious criminal record or who posed a security risk; and to those who had joined the part-time Citizen Military Forces, Citizen Naval Force or Citizen Air Force.


    Claims for exemption from national service were considered only after the ballot had been drawn. Three grounds were recognised: physical or mental disability, occupation and conscience.
    ..
    Section 29A of the National Service Act provided that a person whose conscientious beliefs did not allow him to engage in any form of military service could be exempted, provided he sincerely held those beliefs. Those objecting to national service, or merely to combatant duties while performing it, had to prove their beliefs to a court at their own expense. They were also obliged to register for national service and, after receiving a certificate of registration, to then apply for exemption to a DLNS State registrar by submitting a form setting out their objection. If an applicant was balloted out and so granted indefinite deferment, the application expired. If balloted in, he underwent checks by the DLNS to see if he was entitled to exemption, indefinite deferment or temporary deferment on other grounds. He was also given the opportunity to undergo a medical examination so that if found unfit he need not take his application further.

    Applications that survived this filtering process were decided in State lower courts, where an applicant had to demonstrate before a magistrate that he had formed his beliefs from religious or moral premises, or that he genuinely adhered to the beliefs of a religious group that opposed military service. However, a man’s beliefs did not have to be of a religious nature or part of the doctrines of a religion. In court the Minister for Labour and National Service was represented by a barrister, solicitor or officer of the DLNS. The magistrate was obliged to consider the extent to which the applicant’s evidence was true, how long he had held his beliefs, how he had formed them, and to what extent he upheld them. It was up to the magistrate to decide whether the registrant was to undertake any military service and, if so, what form of military service. If a magistrate decided against an applicant, the latter was entitled to appeal to a court of review: a District, County or Supreme Court, depending on the State. If dissatisfied after a decision on appeal, the applicant could take his case to the full bench of the State Supreme Court. The final step was to take the case to the High Court of Australia. National service registrants who had applied and failed in courts on the grounds of conscientious objection and who subsequently failed to report for service were prosecuted.

  8. egg_

    How long does this nonsense go on?

    I’d give the panickers a fortnight to get it out of their system (hence, Trump’s fortnight notice?).

    Peak madness coincides with the April 11 ICU beds peak from Doherty et al?

  9. JMH

    Lizzie, Qantas doesn’t own any 777’s.

    Now that’s really funny.

  10. calli

    Gee. And I got into strife here whingeing about the stealing-by-buying baby formula disappearance.

    Which still hasn’t recovered, by the way.

  11. 8th Dan

    The Bat Lady is back
    and bitching again.

    #shouldakeptherinpuertovallarta

  12. twostix

    The average pro CCP useful idiot looks exactly how you would expect her to look.

    Member of the Australian China Friendship Society, Karen McCrone, described Professor Hamilton as controversial, but said she wanted to hear his opinions.

    “Karen Mcrone” from Tasmania is a member of the Australia China Friendship society.

    Goodonya Karen.

    LOL.

  13. Fisky

    Social Distancing Balding 大老板
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    2m
    Something I would like to see a research paper on: China and Italy share a very high prevalence relative to other countries on multigenerational housing. Research shows elderly had no higher risk in Wuhan by being or going to a hot spot but higher risk when family member did

    This could be evidence for a biological weapon that is passed more easily among people with similar genes.

  14. Mick from the Gold Coast:

    These blokes should have overtly or covertly crafted a campaign against closure of our oil refineries in favor of just 3¼ days of gasoline storage, or whatever monumentally stupid storage capacity we are expected to believe.

    I checked with the Australian Civil Military Centre*, and a search for ‘fuel supplies’ returns no hits. “Women” has 35 hits. “Men” returns eight.
    *the ACMC is the successor to the Civil Defence Directorate. Some of the functions were folded into the SES, but civil defence has largely disappeared.

  15. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare at 1:37 pm:

    “Sorry for the typos, I was touch typing as I read copy from the book. Didn’t have time to proof read it.”

    Hang on Elizabeth, you are supposed to be flying the Yellow Jack and sitting about idle. It’s not as if you can duck into the Gap Tavern or stroll down to Doyles Restaurant or Dunbar House for a long, lazy feed. 😉

    Doyles is where I first discovered oysters in champagne in the mid ’70s, dining with a university mate, a Freehills solicitor, from post grad years. I went on to engage him throughout my career in a couple of corporates, for his specialist skills. We dined in the Watsons Bay-Rose Bay-Double Bay restaurants over the years, probably to enjoy the views.

  16. calli

    QF12 is usually an A380? Sounds familiar.

  17. egg_

    I took a calculated risk.

    Control freaks will say your risk taking impinged on them!
    /Libertarian blog

  18. Fisky

    Member of the Australian China Friendship Society, Karen McCrone, described Professor Hamilton as controversial, but said she wanted to hear his opinions.

    “Karen Mcrone” from Tasmania is a member of the Australia China Friendship society.

    She looks like one of the pro-country shopper activists.

  19. egg_

    Is there a market for beer virus tinfoil hats?

  20. calli

    They might have run a Dreamliner.

  21. Arky

    It’s worth underlining again, the money being spent to get over this thing is your money.
    The future value of your savings and superannuation and wages is being spent now.

  22. Some History

    Does anyone own this sort of car?

    https://imgur.com/QqtS99V

  23. Judging our forces’ combat behaviour is no easy matter.

    No – it’s not; and best left to the mechanisms that the forces have (Inspector-General) to investigate, rather than shock jocks and Right wing bloggers with agendas of their own.
    The biggest problem is the passage of time between the incident and the outcome of the investigation.
    Justice delayed is justice denied….

  24. Fisky

    This is why Obama-Biden were completely useless on China.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/WarrenRothman/status/1242627828404776960

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    Warren
    @WarrenRothman
    ‘I Take My Hat Off to China’: Obama’s China Ambassador Praises Chinese Response to Virus//One of the most disgusting, slavishly craven opportunists of them all. Why doesn’t he out and out thank #CCP-#China for infecting the #USA and the world. Vile !

  25. Arky

    Also the equity you have in any business or property is also being spent.
    Because no one wanted to say “No’ to china and her libertarian stooges.

  26. Mater

    I have never said that.
    What I did say is the the ANZAC myth has been conscripted by some in an attempt to rationalise and sanitise the political and strategic disaster that was Vietnam.

    Really?

    1735099
    #2991554, posted on April 18, 2019 at 8:08 pm

    The ANZAC myth doesn’t fit well with conscription.

  27. calli

    Well, that’s that then. The Glowball Warmening Scam is officially over.

    We have a new contender for the demise of skiing in Australia.

  28. Mater

    And a bit more:

    In the first place, I was a conscript. The ANZAC myth doesn’t fit well with conscription.

    I was a soldier not because I was sacrificing everything for Queen and Country, but because it was a better option than being jailed – hardly a noble motivation. If I had resisted my call-up, I would have fronted a magistrate and probably spent the next couple of years in Boggo Road. As a beginning teacher at the time, that would not have been a good career move. Teaching was incompatible with a criminal record.

  29. egg_

    Marginal lenders will have massive loan defaults – go under?
    No Doc loans and stuff?

    Not from the beer virus, but from Officials’ panic and shutdowns.
    /Dan the Man

  30. Harlequin Decline

    As many people have noted the virus statistics are inconsistent. Here a French hospital official states the French death toll is much higher than the official numbers. He also states Germany is testing 10x to 20x the number of cases France is which, if true could go a long way to explaining it.

    The pre virus deaths per 1000 population for France, Italy and Germany are 9.4, 10.7, 11.4 whereas the current virus case fatility rates are 20, 123 and 2.6.

    These are absurd, how can Italy have a fatality rate 2 orders of magnitude greater than Germany when the pre virus numbers are roughly comparable?

    Interestingly if you take the French official at his word, increase the deaths by 50% and divide by the test disparity of 10x France comes out at 3 versus 2.6 for Germany which is believable.

    Until normalisation of deaths against cases tested , standardisation of tests and causes of death are done the decison makers are flying blind, and it shows.

    Short of this happening a better estimate should be available from the first quarter of the year when estimated deaths pre virus are compared with the actual deaths.

  31. bespoke

    Those that have no made in china goods please stand up.

    …………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..

  32. twostix

    There’s no way Chinese individuals could sweep up all of the masks in the west, put them into containers and onto ships without being busted along the way.

    No they’re working with major supply chains to divert goods away from domestic stores, into warehouses, onto the docks, onto container ships and to China.

    And who in Australia has major export supply chains in place with access to suppliers, warehouses, dock access, access to container ships and are trying to break into the Chinese market right now?

    Who also have domestic stores that currently have empty shelves that they just cannot seem to find supply to stock right now?

    Hmmmmmmm!

  33. DHS

    anti vaxxers are so dumb

    Hahaha!

    According to “scientific studies” (which doctor worshippers always love) having a flu shot dramatically increases your chances of coronavirus respiratory infection.

    Maybe these “anti-vaxers” know something you don’t Candy.

    After all, they knew this coronavirus hype was overblown even before it started destroying our economies.

  34. egg_

    bespoke
    #3377116, posted on March 26, 2020 at 1:45 pm
    Roger
    #3376825, posted on March 26, 2020 at 10:53 am
    I think leftistm is mostly subconscious.
    I’m gravitating toward the view that prog-lefitsm is more of a social than a political phenomenon, although it plays out in the political sphere because the Left has made everything these days political, even sport.
    Bereft of an inner moral compass shaped by tradition and the robust identity that goes with it, lefties derive their identity from their social group. Hence political positions are adopted not because they have been thought through or because they offer solutions, but because they are shared by the group. Virtue signalling declares one’s membership of the group. Social media magnifies all of this tremendously.
    The worst fate imaginable in this world is ostracism because of dissent from the group position. In fact, that is the path to freedom.

    I think you’ll have to show how the right is any different.

    Mask slip?

  35. I believe there was a couple of options you didnt take.

    I was not a conscientious objector.
    By definition, a CO refused to fight in any war.
    The precedent had been set in the Magistrates’ Court that specific objection to Vietnam wouldn’t wash.
    The CMF option was impracticable because at the time I had to register I had no idea where I would be posted as a teacher, but because I came from the bush, the odds were an appointment to a bush school in a location where there was no CMF unit. This is exactly what happened.
    I had a third option, which was to refuse to register.
    This was a criminal offence, and if convicted, I would not have been accepted for teacher registration..

  36. egg_

    Those that have no made in china goods please stand up.

    Yup.
    I’m with JC on buying sh1te wherever it comes from – we’ll still be selling coal to Chi na.
    Let the Corporates locate their capital to SEA as their wont.

  37. Infidel Tiger

    QLD just gave kids all of next week off.

    Unless you’re the kid of an “essential worker”.

    How much would it suck to be those kids!

    Same as WA.

    States deliberately undermining the Fed response to appease the far left Teachers Unions.

  38. Peter the old fossil

    There’s no way Chinese individuals could sweep up all of the masks in the west, put them into containers and onto ships without being busted along the way.

    Twostix,
    Please stop applying logic and common sense to this.
    You’re interfering with the local’s hysterics.

  39. egg_

    I think leftistm is mostly subconscious.
    I’m gravitating toward the view that prog-lefitsm is more of a social than a political phenomenon, although it plays out in the political sphere because the Left has made everything these days political, even sport.

    Their ABC has a big emphasis on Sports News – a herd activity for the taking.
    /Offsiders with Squalid

  40. Arky

    China communist appologist traitors the usual fuckheads who have made this blog unreadable.
    Scum.

  41. EvilElvis

    States deliberately undermining the Fed response to appease the far left Teachers Unions.

    Scomo on video lauding and nearly going down on his knees for the teachers, such has been their sacrifice.

  42. calli

    If we have a “Just In Time” delivery system, what’s to say that those stocks were already in short supply here?

    I’m just not seeing that it’s an impossibility.

    And do stop jeering at others’ ideas. Come up with your own.

  43. twostix

    It is absolutely going to out in the future that Coles and Woolworths (or subsidiaries) – with the full knowledge of the government – were exporting absolutely mountains of goods to China this whole time.

    The only thing the government might not fully know about is the extent of the container loads of toilet paper, disinfectants and masks that were slipped onto ships with the usual beef, lamb, powdered milk and baby formula they’ve been sending over for ages.

  44. DHS

    These are absurd, how can Italy have a fatality rate 2 orders of magnitude greater than Germany when the pre virus numbers are roughly comparable?

    It’s funny how people are so angry at China but it’s actually Italy that is responsible for our economic destruction.

    Around 1500 Italians die each day anyway. But now a huge proportion of those are being blamed on covid even if they didn’t die from respiratory distress.

    In other countries people are only blaming covid if there is no other obvious cause of death. Of course, even that dramatically overstates covid deaths but at least it’s not as bad as Italy.

  45. thefrollickingmole

    This was a criminal offence, and if convicted, I would not have been accepted for teacher registration..

    So you chose a career over your moral objections.

    Choice made.
    You just havent ever forgiven yourself for not being one of the 17 jailed or one of those who successfully used Section 29A to refuse service.

  46. Infidel Tiger

    I love the way the lunatics have designated children as the super spreaders of China Virus when in fact all research says they do not spread it.

  47. bespoke

    egg_
    I have said many times I don’t Identify with any political group. Funny though you demonstrating group think.

  48. Infidel Tiger

    Italy is faking its stats to get a bank bailout.

  49. You have a very poor understanding of the ANZAC Myth.
    Read this – “We went and did an Anzac job”: Memory, Myth, and the Anzac Digger in Vietnam
    Mia Martin Hobbs

    From the abstract –

    However, deconstructing the script shows how unattainable the ideal of Anzac is, requiring an ongoing creation of victimhood to legitimise martyrdom and further perpetuating the hierarchies of Anzac identity.

    What I did say is the the ANZAC myth has been conscripted by some in an attempt to rationalise and sanitise the political and strategic disaster that was Vietnam.

    Amongst other things, the myth has to be hammered into an entirely different shape than the historically accepted one to make it fit the Vietnam experience.

    In the first place, I was a conscript. The ANZAC myth doesn’t fit well with conscription.

  50. calli

    On hand sanitiser – I not that bottles (unlabelled) are for sale at my local Dollar Shop. And they’re expensive.

    Such entrepreneurial skill is to be applauded. At least until the skin on your hands sloughs off.

  51. Some History


    Emma Alberici
    @albericie


    Mar 25
    People around the world are dying alone Stop talking about the economy. We live in a community not an economy. Go knock on your neighbour’s door & ask if they need help Look after eachother And learn a lesson from Italy Choose love over hate Stay inside. Only go out if you must

    https://twitter.com/albericie/status/1242607381214670848

  52. egg_

    India banned exports of a malaria drug backed by U.S. President Donald Trump amid a run on supplies globally, even as preliminary findings emerge that the medication isn’t better than regular care in the treatment of the coronavirus.

  53. Johno

    I get smeared here, not because of my service record, but because of my politics.

    No sniffy you get set upon because you are a horrible obnoxious little person.
    Your service is nothing to be proud of,you have admitted yourself that you made such a nuisance of yourself that you were sent from your section to Plt Hq . Later they sent you back to the Dat where you lounged around until they could transfer you to Admin Coy.

  54. Infidel Tiger

    This was international arrivals at Sydney Airport this morn.

    All arrivals should be shot on site and buried in a pit.

    2,000,000 Australians have been thrown out of work because of the jet set crowd and their filthy ways.

    Fuck these people to hell.

  55. Mater

    You just lied up thread, Bob.
    Stop squirming.

  56. egg_

    States deliberately undermining the Fed response to appease the far left Teachers Unions.

    Tachers and Doctors Unions shutting down Australia?

    Quelle surprise!

  57. Knuckle Dragger

    Hahahaaaaaa. Haha.

    Mater, that was surgical.

    Plagiarism Bob, you’ve had 50 years to craft your lies, and you still can’t do it.

    Give it away son.

    Embrace the Bat Death. It ain’t that bad.

  58. Infidel Tiger

    Unemployment rate will have a 2- in front of it.

    A 3 soon.

    But that’s alright for our fake jobbers.

    They are loving it.

  59. egg_

    States deliberately undermining the Fed response to appease the far left Teachers Unions.

    And Uni Vice Chancellors imported the plague!

  60. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    JC, my class was one of 40 medical doctors, plus me. You only have to be able to think logically to do well in epidemiology. It was a high achieving class in general. Others did well too.

    I had every idea about the Imperial College projections before we departed. I thought they were overblown and far too predictive without a scan on the interventions possible, including lockdowns. They managed to frighten Boris though, so that is good. The Oxford study will be an improvement with better prevalence data. Imperial College of Science and Technology is one of Hairy’s old Alma Maters, along with Jesus College at Cambridge. They do interesting scientific work there in lots of fields. I had read of their study and its outcomes. Not everything comes to me via this august site. Stanford colleagues in public health that I met when I was invited to visit years ago also impressed me. Their work too is on the right track on this.

    When I said I was taking some prophylactic antibiotics with me, some here said I was denying these to others who may be more needy. I took them simply, because as my doctor knows, they are good for any ordinary chest infection. I always take some when travelling in case we are caught short in the middle of nowhere, as once in Utah. JC, I note that no one is blaming you for wanting to store medications others may need more than you do now. I don’t blame you either. It’s normal to want to cover yourself and your family and most people are not saints like that priest in Italy who gave up his ventilator for someone else. Nor truly dedicated medicos like my doctor cousin who has been working with Covid 19 patients without his own mask till I gave him some. I simply read somewhere that GP’s aren’t permitted Hydroxychlorquine, wasn’t trying to get any.

    As for spreading CoV2, I would have as good a chance of doing that in Bondi Westfields as taking my holiday, something which I discussed with good doctor O’Oirish re my good health in general, before leaving.

    Hope that answers your further comments re my trip and other things, JC. When you mention an interest in how people reacted in 1919, I thought you might be interested in John Barry’s book. Sample above.

    Now, whoever said Qantas has no 777’s – you may be right. Hairy says it was a 787, a Dreamliner, not a 777. The 777 was best one that we got on one of our internal flights. A relief from the old crate we got in Mexico. I didn’t exactly want to check the inside pocket material to access the details of the plane, as they are a health hazard in these times. Much of the ‘cleaning’ that we saw on our trip was definitely a mild rub with a wet rag, or even a dry one, and hardly hospital standard, which was the standard I adhered to with my wipes.
    —–
    Your style, Bespoke, is constantly derogatory towards me, as I’ve said here before. It joins in pile-ons with no humour at all, and appallingly bad to boot. Learn to write and spell. That bat-chew comment was one of Nick’s and you join into his memes and pile-ons with great alacrity (look it up).
    —-

    Not a lot of point to me coming in here at present.
    Thanks to all who have been glad to see me still alive. 🙂
    I am glad that no Cats and Kittehs so far are sick and sad about those who have lost their livlihoods.

  61. Fisky

    GWG – do you believe Israel is behind the Wuhanvirus?

  62. twostix

    There’s no way Chinese individuals could sweep up all of the masks in the west, put them into containers and onto ships without being busted along the way.

    Twostix,
    Please stop applying logic and common sense to this.
    You’re interfering with the local’s hysterics.

    If you read on you’ll see I’m tagging a greater and much worse theory.

    That China is are working directly with the suppliers and major chains to redirect stock to the Chinese market in preference to domestic stores.

    For Coles in particular it’s important that they show their reliability to their biggest market.

    If we had a functioning media or parliament we’d know the full story already.

  63. notafan

    Albascreechy contradiction in in tweet.

    Knock on neighbour’s door, stay inside.

    Stop beclowning yourself love.

  64. Arky

    The number of communist stooge apologists for CCP gangsters on here is puke making.

  65. feelthebern

    The most fascinating thing about this thread is how many people can just skim over this post Zippy and it apparently makes zero fucking connection in their brain cells.

    Takes one to know one.

    h/t Homer Simpson.

  66. Brislurker

    Gee, this has become ridiculous. All because Lizzie and Hairy went on a holiday, factoring the risks and everyone piles on. Btw welcome back Lizzie.

    In the meantime, JC wants to get a prescription, not needed now, but maybe in the future. Thereby depriving someone else who made desperately need it and not a word of complaint is said.

    Get real people

  67. feelthebern

    Don’t believe the unemployment rate.
    It will be a lot higher than quoted.

  68. notafan

    GraemeWotGraeme suggested yesterday not Israel per se but cough cough individuals around the world

  69. JMH

    bespoke
    #3377262, posted on March 26, 2020 at 2:59 pm

    Those that have no made in china goods please stand up.

    I am partially standing because I actually go to great lengths to buy goods made anywhere but China. Clothing and almost anything else is from China – including nuts and bolts!

    We MUST rebirth our manufacturing industries in this country but I bet we don’t.

  70. Mater

    Amongst other things, the myth has to be hammered into an entirely different shape than the historically accepted one to make it fit the Vietnam experience.

    Really? The AWM uses a Charles Bean quote to explain it. Doesn’t seem to have changed too much since his day. Still seems relevant to MOST conscripts.

    “By dawn on December 20th Anzac had faded into a dim blue line lost amid other hills on the horizon as the ships took their human freight to Imbros, Lemnos and Egypt. But Anzac stood, and still stands, for reckless valour in a good cause, for enterprise, resourcefulness, fidelity, comradeship, and endurance that will never own defeat.”

  71. egg_

    I love the way the lunatics have designated children as the super spreaders of China Virus when in fact all research says they do not spread it.

    I’m glad the hyperventilating hyberbolists* are being archived for posterity.

    *Speaking of exponentials.

  72. bespoke

    Lizzie
    According to you my bad spelling is a superpower or have you forgotten?

    Humour like beauty is subjective.

  73. Johno

    This bullshit that you continually posit that “every nasho was a volunteer” is getting old.

    Get this through your thick combat dodging skull some young men volunteered for national service. Most did not. The majority of nashos who served in SVN were given the option of not going. Your unit 7RAR were given an opt out parade, we know this because KEV, a well respected poster here was in that unit at the time. He has credibility, you don’t.

    It is possible for a man to be conscripted against his will and volunteer for service inSVN once he was in the Army.
    Now you will come back with your usual smart-arse comment of “was he a volunteer conscript or a conscript volunteer”. Only a dense flog like you would see this as being a compelling argument . Everyone else sees you as an angry old lefty who wishes he had an honourable service to skite about. But you don’t and so we have to put up with your ranting.

  74. notafan

    Starting to, almost, miss Struth’s 500 word essays.

  75. We MUST rebirth our manufacturing industries in this country

    Most of the plant has been sold off to SE Asia or China.
    We need to start from scratch.

  76. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Coronavirus: WA premier bars ship over infected passengers, calls for Commonwealth help

    Paige Taylor
    Indigenous Affairs Correspondent, WA Bureau Chief
    @paigeataylor
    Victoria Laurie
    Senior Reporter
    17 minutes ago March 26, 2020

    West Australian premier Mark McGowan has asked the Commonwealth to help remove a German cruise ship anchored off Perth with at least seven European passengers who have coronavirus.

    Mr McGowan sent a medical team to the Artania on Wednesday to test passengers who were sick and found seven people with COVID-19. Another two people were unwell and there were concerns they may also be infected. There are about 800 passengers onbaord, most of them German.

    Mr McGowan has now asked the Commonwealth government to deal directly with the German government to ensure the ship leaves.

    “Yes. I would like the ship to leave. They have travel plans that they should adhere to and we would like the Commonwealth to ensure that happens,” he said.

    “This ship needs to leave immediately … the sooner that ship gets home, the better it will be.”

    There are no Australians on the vessel, which Mr McGowan has refused to allow to dock.

    Breaking, from the Oz.

  77. egg_

    Well, I’ve scrubbed my Made in Chi na tinfoil hat with metho, ready to do the weekly shopping.

  78. feelthebern

    FMD.
    We finally have a health/economic/market issue to debate & people are talking ANZAC?

  79. EvilElvis

    We MUST rebirth our manufacturing industries in this country but I bet we don’t.

    The productive have just been bankrupted for a generation. The only way it happens is under state control and Chinese funded.

  80. EvilElvis

    Unless we encourage old alliances.

    All reliant on the elites.

  81. egg_

    We MUST rebirth our manufacturing industries in this country

    Get those dynamic low paid Kiwis to make our sh1t.

  82. Infidel Tiger

    FMD.
    We finally have a health/economic/market issue to debate & people are talking ANZAC?

    Numbers is far from the only monomaniac here.

    And like an erection he goes away if you ignore him. The harder you try and beat him on the other hand…

  83. areff

    China Daily
    @ChinaDaily
    #China has been grappling with an imported virus outbreak as the number of imported cases of novel #coronavirus on the Chinese mainland remained on an overall upward trend. #Covid_19

    Imported!

    There goes any intention I might have had of buying a Great Wall double-cab ute. #boycottchina

  84. We MUST rebirth our manufacturing industries in this country

    We just don’t have enough trained basket weavers to do that.

  85. egg_

    The productive have just been bankrupted for a generation.

    It will take weeks for this to sink in to the blog bleaters.

  86. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    International Arrivals was more sparse yesterday at 7.30,, a Dreamliner only half-full. Even so, Hairy and I wore our N95 masks and held back to be among the last to leave to ensure the possibility of social distancing. Our group also was mostly masked, this crowd less so by far. This crowding was a problem in American airports also until some genius discovered it was possible to stagger groups through from a series of planes all arriving at once. US TV was alive with that story for a while. So much more was happening too.

    Interesting trip.

  87. thefrollickingmole

    Arky
    #3377247, posted on March 26, 2020 at 2:53 pm
    It’s worth underlining again, the money being spent to get over this thing is your money.
    The future value of your savings and superannuation and wages is being spent now.

    Its ok Arky, we will import enough migrants to paper over the GDP figures and they are used to lower living standards anyway.
    Import enough and the old pale, stale, male demographic dont matter as those who remember times when life was better drop off the twig.

  88. feelthebern

    Spoke with someone today who lives in Brooklyn.
    Very gentrified part of it.
    He said the last couple of days things are starting to fray around the edges.

  89. 8th Dan

    Barre, pronounced bar-ray

    No … its pronounced “bar”.

    And by the bye … I believe I was the first to ping Porter as being None.

  90. Import enough and the old pale, stale, male demographic dont matter as those who remember times when life was better drop off the twig.

    Do not go gentle into that good night.

  91. Mater

    We finally have a health/economic/market issue to debate & people are talking ANZAC?

    You’re right, Bern. Forgive me.
    Such discussions with Bob remind me of this scene from The Long Kiss Goodnight.

    https://youtu.be/7Q3PdKYgt5o

  92. bespoke

    JMH
    #3377322, posted on March 26, 2020 at 3:26 pm
    bespoke
    #3377262, posted on March 26, 2020 at 2:59 pm

    Those that have no made in china goods please stand up.

    I am partially standing because I actually go to great lengths to buy goods made anywhere but China. Clothing and almost anything else is from China – including nuts and bolts!

    So do I.

    We MUST rebirth our manufacturing industries in this country but I bet we don’t.

    Agree but no chance at all by pointing fingers at a tiny minority (libertarians). Should I blame Christians for ‘progressives’ high jacking compassion?

  93. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Infidel Tiger at 3:33 pm:

    ” FMD.
    We finally have a health/economic/market issue to debate & people are talking ANZAC?

    Numbers is far from the only monomaniac here.

    And like an erection he goes away if you ignore him. The harder you try and beat him on the other hand…

    Now THAT is funny. 🙂

    99, 100 … change hands.

  94. dover_beach

    The Greenland Group, which manages high-end real estate projects in Sydney and Melbourne, proactively drained Australian supplies of anti-coronavirus equipment, The Sydney Morning Herald reported.

    Three million surgical masks, 500,000 pairs of gloves and bulk supplies of sanitiser and wipes were bought up in Australia and other countries where Greenland operates.

    While the bulk purchases and shipping were perfectly legitimate, the goods shipped in bulk to China include the very items that have been in short supply for Australian citizens as well as health professionals.

    They were accumulated at Greenland’s Sydney headquarters and sent to China over weeks in January and February.

    As coronavirus locked down Wuhan, the global Fortune 500 company put its normal work on hold and instructed staff in Australia, Canada, Turkey and elsewhere to source supplies.

    Pallet loads of items including thermometers and 700,000 hazmat suits were sent to China, the Herald reported.

    FMD.

  95. So you chose a career over your moral objections.

    To talk about “moral objections” in the context of an immoral system that took 12% of young men, buggered up their lives thoroughly, sent 16000 of them to fight an undeclared and ultimately futile war in peacetime in a foreign country, killed 200 of them, and maimed and traumatised thousands more, whilst the remaining 88% percent continued their lives as normal, is simply ludicrous.

    Choice made.
    You just havent ever forgiven yourself for not being one of the 17 jailed or one of those who successfully used Section 29A to refuse service.

    I have nothing to forgive myself for.
    My decisions paid off.
    I survived.
    I have done pretty well out of the post discharge benefits, specifically the reestablishment training which gained me some tertiary qualifications which, with the application of ten years’ hard yakka, paid off handsomely.
    And those who abuse me routinely here continue to pay for my Gold Card.
    The joke is on you….

  96. EvilElvis

    Lizzie, good to see you and the hairy one are back safe and sound.

    Could you give us an ethnicity breakdown of those on your flight?
    Would it have put you out at all if you’d landed in Oz and got put into a plastic tent at the end of the runway with Hazmat wearing officials taking care of your every want and need for two weeks?

  97. Ellie

    You may have pinged her, 8th Dan. I got rid of her again.

  98. egg_

    There goes any intention I might have had of buying a Great Wall double-cab ute. #boycottchina

    When are the cants making a V8?

  99. Arky

    Its ok Arky, we will import enough migrants to paper over the GDP figures and they are used to lower living standards anyway.

    ..
    As I said at the outset, for those of you who remember: This won’t change the minds of the globalists and their stooges the libertarians.
    This isn’t a wake up and a beginning of the reversal of decades of mistakes over China.
    This is the signal for them to accelerate.
    They are lying dirty shits and they aren’t flinching from the course set.

  100. Infidel Tiger

    Spoke with someone today who lives in Brooklyn.
    Very gentrified part of it.
    He said the last couple of days things are starting to fray around the edges.

    Trump needs to put Los Angeles, New York, C and Washington under Martial Law and open everything else back up.

    In Australia we need to lock down Sydney and Melbourne and open the rest up for business.

  101. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I can’t remember suggesting you have a superpower with your dyslexia, Bespoke, but maybe you do. I have tried to be nice to you in the past, but I am really beyond trying with any of it now. Quite tired still today.

    Humour is always in the eye of the beholder. And the beholder of the beholder.
    What people laugh at really does tell you a lot about them. Not all of it is good.

  102. candy

    Ms Alberici is living in an economy that gives her a $200,000 odd guaranteed salary and apparently a flash penthouse in Coogee, telling retail workers etc who have just lost their jobs that the economy does not matter.

  103. NoFixedAddress

    Critics of Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s response to the Wuhan virus charge that one reason Canada finds itself short of vital medical supplies may be that Trudeau shipped a great deal of it to China in the last days before the Communist Party’s secrecy and duplicity unleashed the pandemic upon the world.

    https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2020/03/25/canada-gave-away-medical-equipment-to-china-before-facing-shortages/

  104. Arky

    We can see in thread above the xunts unmasked.
    There flippant little snarks designed to divide people and provide cover for their masters.
    You know who you are. And w can see you now too xunt.

  105. egg_

    Numbers is far from the only monomaniac here.

    The trolls probably keep the blog from imploding.

  106. thefrollickingmole

    The shorter numberwang reply.

    So you chose a career over your moral objections.

    YES

    Everything else is hamster wheel rationalization and fluff.

    But thanks for playing.

  107. candy

    In Australia we need to lock down Sydney and Melbourne and open the rest up for business.

    That is actually a great idea. Sydney is where the big health problem is and Dan Andrews is dying to be locked down and apparently a lot of Melbournians with him.

  108. Infidel Tiger

    Jennifer Franco
    @jennfranconews
    #BREAKING: The Senate rejects an amendment to the coronavirus emergency legislation proposed by Sen. Sasse to ensure employees wouldn’t earn more not working, than working.

    (Vote was 48-48, falling short of the 60 vote threshold needed to pass.)
    11:21 AM · Mar 26, 2020

    Ben Sasse is a piece of shit.

    Imagine thinking like that after what the government has done to these people?

  109. egg_

    After the bear wiped his @rse with M0nty, he returned to the cabin and said “when will this bog roll shortage be over?!”

  110. Infidel Tiger

    We can see in thread above the xunts unmasked.
    There flippant little snarks designed to divide people and provide cover for their masters.
    You know who you are. And w can see you now too xunt.

    What have I done now?

  111. feelthebern

    Breaking news.
    Chinese interests have bought a stake in the Sydney Desal plant.

  112. Infidel Tiger

    Hope you are joking Bern.

  113. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Would it have put you out at all if you’d landed in Oz and got put into a plastic tent at the end of the runway with Hazmat wearing officials taking care of your every want and need for two weeks?

    Nope. I’m easy with that. Half expected it. I like unusual holidays; viz my New Guinea days.

    Qantas flies the middle classes. Everyone knows that.

    Spoke to some kids flying Virgin on the bus. Nice kids. Middle Eastern Aussies.
    Not worrying. More worrying was that as we sat in the Hyatt for an hour when we checked out at 6pm we took off our hot masks in a very quiet corner of very quiet Reception. Till I noticed a small meeting announcement sign near a room saying Saudi Embassy and some Saudi’s started to walk by. Whipped the mask back on pronto. 🙂

  114. bespoke

    Must be time for another Ozito product review. 😎

  115. egg_

    We can see in thread above the xunts unmasked.
    There flippant little snarks designed to divide people and provide cover for their masters.
    You know who you are. And w can see you now too xunt.

    WTF?
    We don’t manufacture sh1t here – we value add.
    Most STEM folk work in supporting OEM sh1te made off shore.
    Get real, fitter and turner.

  116. woolfe

    When travelling through Heathrow last Wednesday saw about 10 people in Hazmat suits, most looked Chinese, all were Asian. One was openly pointed at and laughed at by the crowd at Emirates check in. Maybe they had the last laugh?

    When in UK after our return from skiing in France we purposely did not visit any of our older relatives as we did not want to potentially pass anything on to them. I suppose if you are visiting your relatives for what you deem is the last time then this would fall away?

  117. EvilElvis

    Thanks, Lizzie.

    I’ll be sure to not mention to my BIL that Qantas is middle class. 😉

  118. egg_

    Chinese interests have bought a stake in the Sydney Desal plant.

    Where was the uproar on this blog about Darwin’s Port?
    /Crickets

  119. Arky

    The traitor actually typed more than two short sentences.
    It must really be straining it’s tiny brain to run interference for Beijing.
    Dirty xunt.

  120. EvilElvis

    This continues to be the vexing thing from a supposed virus scare. Flights still coming in, cruise ships still trying their luck and the only requirement is a trusting self isolation. Not one redirection to a single airport or port to limit spread, not one luxury plastic tent, not one Hazmat suited medico. Yet the economy has been absolutely hosed because of it.

  121. Dr Faustus

    There’s no way Chinese individuals could sweep up all of the masks in the west, put them into containers and onto ships without being busted along the way.

    Dutton mention this at the weekend and Morrison made brief mention of looting the other evening in his trainwreck speech to the nation – and promised furious vengeance would be brought down on the perps.

    The subsequent radio silence suggests the Government:

    – Is actually just fine with the arrangement;
    – Has been informed there is no legal impediment in super-bulk offshoring Australian necessities; or
    – Has been informed that any further discussion on the matter will earn the displeasure of Emperor Pooh.

    If it’s not Flattening the Curve, expect no intervention.

  122. EvilElvis

    No police or state escorts to make sure self isolation is followed yet go to the beach and the powers that be lose their collective shit.

  123. egg_

    Arky
    #3377388, posted on March 26, 2020 at 3:56 pm

    Get well soon.

  124. feelthebern

    Ah!
    That should have read, Canadian interests have bought a stake in the Sydney Desal plant.
    Apologies for any raised blood pressure my previous post caused.

  125. Ellie

    Qantas is middle class.

    Lower class.

    Fly Emirates or don’t fly.

  126. egg_

    This continues to be the vexing thing from a supposed virus scare. Flights still coming in, cruise ships still trying their luck and the only requirement is a trusting self isolation. Not one redirection to a single airport or port to limit spread, not one luxury plastic tent, not one Hazmat suited medico. Yet the economy has been absolutely hosed because of it.

    It all seems to be basically voluntary, despite the Big Brother act from Authorities.
    Tachers and Doctors Unions rulz, OK?

  127. Dear Scotty,
    Norwegian and French government offered no resistance to the invader.
    Get one of your staff to look up what happened to Petain and Quisling when dust settled.

  128. egg_

    A Kiwi with a Taiwanese wife?
    /Lack of self awareness max

    “But, but… immigrants built this country!!11!
    “Ferkin Chi nese”

  129. JMH:

    We MUST rebirth our manufacturing industries in this country but I bet we don’t.

    Our industries will only come back if they can be in a state or area that has put a ban on greens/unions/bureaucrats.
    I’ve forgotten what these centres are called, but that is the ONLY way it’s going to happen.
    Greens will continue their ideological war against us, Unions will continue their efforts to get industries set up, then gouge them into bankruptcy, And the bureaucrats will continue to micromanage them into oblivion.
    We need to take over a state then get it out of the Federation.
    There is no other way.

  130. Peter the old fossil

    Thanks for that clarification Bern.
    Your original post was perplexing – the Chi nese are not generally known for collecting white elephants.

  131. John Comnenus

    Anyone who didn’t learn something useful from contact drills is not much of a thinker. Contact or immediate action drills are the steps you take immediately and without thought when you come under fire. The drill is run, down, crawl, observe, aim, fire.

    What this tells you is that in a dynamic competitive situation you need to act quickly to change the environment and give your self time to develop a quick plan. The virtue of action without thought as a means of buying you time to think is the issue. Now one doesn’t always employ the contact drill. You don’t employ it when you intimidate the attack because you will be firing and moving.

    Let’s think what we the contact drill says about our current pandemic situation. It looks like the Government is trying a contact drill of sorts. But I, for one, think they should have been on the offensive rather than acting like they are surprised. The current situation called for a plan prior to contact. Instead we got contact followed by what looks increasingly like a series of measures with no discernible destination, no articulated metrics and no time frame. In short they look increasingly like a they are making it up as they go along.

    Contact drill thinking isn’t going to save you if you lack the leadership and ability to rationally plan.

  132. Where was the uproar on this blog about Darwin’s Port?

    IT, nick, myself, Leigh Lowe and many others uproared.
    But it was lost amongst the travelogues and recipes.

  133. Ellie

    Who would support Alan Joyce – the CEO of Qantas?

  134. Arky

    The dirty traitor gets personal when finally revealed for what it is.

  135. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Most Australians are middle class. 🙂

    The term simply means they will pay a bit more for comfort because they can, and they expect service.

    Emirates are no longer my fave airline and I don’t know what to do with their flyer points now.
    I don’t feel comfortable any more with people praying on the floor of the aisles and in front of the toilets blocking the entrance. Perhaps this was an isolated case, but also those dreadful spoiled Middle Eastern boy children make for a noisy flight and give me an itchy palm.

  136. Incoherent Rambler:
    Most of the plant has been sold off to SE Asia or China.

    We need to start from scratch.

    Nothing wrong with that – indeed starting from afresh with the latest technology gives a very large advantage.

  137. Arky

    It’s been posting two sentence snark and instigating shit on here for years.
    The worthless piece of shit.

  138. egg_

    IT, nick, myself, Leigh Lowe and many others uproared.

    Ditto, yours truly.
    Was Arky foaming at the mouth at the time, or is only spooked by a potential plague?

  139. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I think I spoke too of how China had taken over much of New Zealand on 99 year leases, which we saw well expressed on one of our travels, as well as taking over Australian ports and farmlands.

    Must have got lost in amongst the excellent humour on display.

  140. cohenite

    Another new thread!

    And at the top of it this from ghost:

    Think if we had a society where producer goods accumulation was supposed to be from retained earnings? As opposed to the pretence that producer goods come out of high interest debt contracts. How much easier would things be going now? How much more resilient anti-fragile would we be?

    Only a malfunctioning bot could come up with this splendiferous nonsense.

  141. Arky

    But but but, I posted on Blair for years, I’m one of you.
    No you’re not.
    You’re a stooge and a plant with a job to do.
    You dirty, dirty shit.

  142. John Comnenus

    I’m spooked by the actual plague of idiotic government thinking.

  143. Ellie

    It’s been posting two sentence snark and instigating shit on here for years.
    The worthless piece of shit.

    Who is It?

  144. egg_

    IT, nick, myself, Leigh Lowe and many others uproared.

    Even fewer of us expressed concern about the Chi nese airfields in W.A. IIRC.
    Probably seen as a fait accompli?

  145. bespoke

    Lizzie

    I have never dissed your looks
    I have never dissed you age ( apart from pointing out your implausible excuse to lead others into thinking you were younger.)
    I have never dissed your trip ( apart from cringing at it’s pretrial as some ride on the Amazon river).
    I did start just asking simple clarification only to met with “how dare you” so gave up long time ago.
    I have never dissed your opinion on the virus but have cringed at your unnecessary reliance of authority.

  146. Farmer Gez

    Well, let’s all hope that Lizzie doesn’t wake up with a sore throat tomorrow or the next day. It’s fourteen days for a reason. A bit early to celebrate dodging a bullet just yet.

    Btw. Is anyone getting toilet paper in their supermarkets because up in the bush it’s been gone for weeks?

  147. egg_

    It’s been posting two sentence snark and instigating shit on here for years.
    The worthless piece of shit.

    From the clown who sets off banal quizzes?

    “Look at moi!”

  148. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Recipes? I have been offered secret Cajun recipes straight from the Bayou.
    French influenced from way back, mutated with Cob-pipe Maw Maw’s special touch.
    Any takers? Crawfish Gumbo, Aligator Tail stew, plus more.

  149. JMH

    Our industries will only come back if they can be in a state or area that has put a ban on greens/unions/bureaucrats.
    I’ve forgotten what these centres are called, but that is the ONLY way it’s going to happen.
    Greens will continue their ideological war against us, Unions will continue their efforts to get industries set up, then gouge them into bankruptcy, And the bureaucrats will continue to micromanage them into oblivion.
    We need to take over a state then get it out of the Federation.
    There is no other way.

    Winston. Precisely. The Greens may well be a spent force after this current toxic dust settles but the Unions are another matter. They are entirely responsible for killing this country. I can’t believe how stupid we are and have been as a Nation.

  150. Leigh Lowe

    The Greenland Group, which manages high-end real estate projects in Sydney and Melbourne, proactively drained Australian supplies of anti-coronavirus equipment, The Sydney Morning Herald reported.

    Will there be a Royal Commission bashing and removal of their “social licence”, along with massive reparations to victims, as the banks were forced to do?

  151. cohenite

    And the Greenland Group chunk effort takes daigou exploitation to a new level.

    I’m not advocating violence but 1 Australian pollie should be shot every week. With a few exceptions.

  152. egg_

    But but but, I posted on Blair for years, I’m one of you.

    Dude, the ghost stories were entertaining, but having a mental breakdown and never finishing anything you’ve ever started is therapy?
    You are not like the rest of us, particularly at this moment in time.

  153. Shy Ted

    If Richard Wilkins can get 3 positive tests but have no symptoms, clearly the virus cannot survive Botox.

  154. Huck

    8th Dan

    #3377349, posted on March 26, 2020 at 3:37 pm

    Barre, pronounced bar-ray

    No … its pronounced “bar”.

    And by the bye … I believe I was the first to ping Porter as being None.

    Well, you would know all about the behaviour of sock puppeteers.

    Huck

    #3365368, posted on March 20, 2020 at 11:04 am

    Just in case there was any doubt remaining that 8th Dan is in fact another sock puppet of the despicable Grigory M/Septimus/Giffy creature:

    8th Dan

    #3363606, posted on March 19, 2020 at 10:41 am

    Huckwit …

    Grigory M

    #2273838, posted on January 25, 2017 at 2:03 pm

    Huckwit

    Giffy

    #1040652, posted on October 19, 2013 at 12:47 pm

    Sorry, HuckWit.

    Grigory M

    #2312780, posted on March 1, 2017 at 8:08 pm

    Stay calm, Huckwit

  155. JC

    You know, I had to drive through a couple of major shopping centers this afternoon and just got back. Where’s the lock down that only necessary stores can be open? All sorts of clothing stores, JB HiFi, vape shops (except the fucking arsehole who I buy my illegal stash of Juul pods, who is not closed for two weeks), Rebel Sports… all open and hungry for business.

    The only thing missing were crowds. You kind of get lock down because it appeared there weren’t any people in the stores. Country Road was open. This whole lock-down thing is a fucking joke as lots of people are ignoring it.

  156. Dover Beach:

    The Greenland Group, which manages high-end real estate projects in Sydney and Melbourne, proactively drained Australian supplies of anti-coronavirus equipment, The Sydney Morning Herald reported.

    Surely they must have broken some regulations to have done this? If a milk bar cannot just suddenly start selling cars and booze, how did this happen?
    Obviously this is a very well organised product/asset stripping operation that has no bearing on property acquisition. To hell with them – this sort of predatory behaviour must be stopped.

  157. Ellie

    I have never dissed your looks But! You are a dead man walking.

  158. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Hoeing down on Strepsils, still, Farmer Gez. Keeping the back of my throat very inhospitable to CoV2.

    (no ‘phrasing’ there; not a reference to the Lovelake Lady’s previous talents, btw, which is sure to arise in this godless place unless I stomp on it now)

    I like the flavour. And Strepsil calories just don’t count. 🙂

  159. Helen

    These threads are mutating quicker than a Wuhan Virus.

  160. Geriatric Mayfly

    “Excuse me Ma’am and your RH Philip;

    That would be Sir Alan Fitztightly, personal equerry to HRH, speaking.

  161. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger
    #3377308, posted on March 26, 2020 at 3:20 pm
    Unemployment rate will have a 2- in front of it.

    A 3 soon.

    But that’s alright for our fake jobbers.

    They are loving it.

    Quietly and smugly muttering among themselves at the prospect of picking up an inner city terrace for $400k, no doubt.

  162. Spider

    Now hairdressers are asking the government to close them down. Well go over and close the bloody door and put a CLOSED sign on it.

    Except,of course , they would like the government to assist them with cash.

  163. Dr Faustus

    Gixed line OK, but Australia’s 4G wireless network struggling under the strain of ‘home working’:

    In theory, having users home wouldn’t result in extra data but who doesn’t mind some music streaming or a spot of Netflix when they’re working from home?

    Just wait for the throttling when the tsunami of ’ home working’ public sector Equity Communications Supervisors and Customer Experience Officers starts.

  164. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    If Richard Wilkins can get 3 positive tests but have no symptoms, clearly the virus cannot survive BotoxCocaine.

    correctamundo

  165. EvilElvis

    Ahhh, it does warm the cockles of that blackhole where my heart should be at how fast, and I’m guilty here too, some of us get wound up! Zero to light speed in the blink of an eye! Bless.

  166. Infidel Tiger

    You know, I had to drive through a couple of major shopping centers this afternoon and just got back. Where’s the lock down that only necessary stores can be open? All sorts of clothing stores, JB HiFi, vape shops (except the fucking arsehole who I buy my illegal stash of Juul pods, who is not closed for two weeks), Rebel Sports… all open and hungry for business.

    The only thing missing were crowds. You kind of get lock down because it appeared there weren’t any people in the stores. Country Road was open. This whole lock-down thing is a fucking joke as lots of people are ignoring it.

    We are not in full lock down, JC.

    Only beauticians, snatch waxers, gyms, pubs and cafes etc are closed.

    Everyone else is just sitting around awaiting bankruptcy.

    Stupidest time in human history.

  167. bespoke

    Classy as always Ellie.

  168. EvilElvis

    These threads are mutating quicker than a Wuhan Virus.

    Haha. The Wuhan clans cheese is slipping off the cracker. Again.

  169. snatch waxers

    There are times that I ponder starting out in a new career.

  170. EvilElvis

    Now hairdressers are asking the government to close them down. Well go over and close the bloody door and put a CLOSED sign on it.

    Except,of course , they would like the government to assist them with cash.

    Clinging on grimly, losing money, relying on the government to give you the go ahead to shut. We just can’t get it through our thick heads that government is the cause, not the cure.

  171. notafan

    I knew Porter was none.

    I just didn’t dibber dob.

    Grigory wears them.

    But you all knew that

  172. bespoke

    Very provisional to. Do they wave rules like not being drunk when you work from home?

  173. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Bespoke, you have always been wrong, and haven’t changed a bit.
    To be charitable, perhaps you do have a bit of a problem with comprehension.

    BUT …

    Too many ‘apart froms’ in that lot.
    And I don’t do ‘how dare you’, that’s not my style.
    I will answer any question genuinely asked, to the best of my ability.
    Re my ability to now offer my correct age; firstly, why should it matter?
    Secondly, they were very real reasons regarding personal security for my family.

    Try to play nicely. Avoid the bad companions.

  174. Keith Forwheels

    incoherent rambler
    #3377456, posted on March 26, 2020 at 4:29 pm

    Law of large numbers could be a contraindication. Imagine a bad day…

  175. Ellie

    Grigory wears them.

    He wears my thigh length leather boots. And he wears them well. ❤

  176. Good afternoon all.
    Just read a bit of Tom Minear and his ‘one more thing’ pricked my ear. The paragraph follows thusly:

    ‘Anthony Albanese and his team have a crucial role in holding the Government to account. But the Labor leader does not belong in the National Cabinet. It is making difficult decisions which should be made by our elected leaders and implemented by their governments.’

    UniParty indeed, or a diversity hire. Why the fuck is he permitted to sit in on Government decisions?
    In other news, Seinfeld is on, The Statue episode. Rava. Lol

  177. Dr Faustus

    Telstra suspends most landline number porting
    As India’s lockdown impacts its operations.

    Telstra has been forced to stop almost all transfers of landline numbers to other providers due to COVID-19 related lockdowns in India where much of the work was performed.

    At least there will be a reduction in 5:45 pm phone calls: “Hello, this is David from Microsoft, we have detected a problem with your online banking…

  178. Ellie

    Very provisional to

    Bespoke – “Very professional, too” … maybe?

  179. feelthebern

    Only beauticians, snatch waxers, gyms, pubs and cafes etc are closed.

    Whaaaat?
    Are you saying there are unwaxed snatches out there?
    Oh the humanity.

  180. bespoke

    Would being drunk make any difference to a HR diversity’s productivity?

  181. JMH

    Yes. I am a major Arky fan and read his posts. Arky – stay calm. We need you.

  182. Infidel Tiger

    Whaaaat?
    Are you saying there are unwaxed snatches out there?
    Oh the humanity.

    The yoof are about to discover that women have pubes.

  183. Atoms for Peace

    I wonder if the Chinese Communist Party have discovered religion and are praying their butts off for a continuation of the Queen’s good health. Hell to pay if she dies from Wuhan Corona virus.

  184. bespoke

    Re my ability to now offer my correct age; firstly, why should it matter?

    It don’t but the lame excuse goes to credibility.

  185. egg:

    Where was the uproar on this blog about Darwin’s Port?
    /Crickets

    I had my bits to say about it – ‘treasonous’, ‘criminal’, and ‘stupid’ would have been some of the adjectives used.

  186. John Comnenus

    Geez the drinks cabinet in the home office is exceptional. It’s 4:30 and time for a 500 ml Oettinger Pilsner.

  187. Caveman

    3 year old article paywalled from AFR on Daigou……probably new thread after this.

    Australia’s biggest daigou who can make or break brands in China
    Angus Grigg and Lisa Murray
    May 31, 2017 – 11.00pm

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    Australian brands wanting to make it in China have often focused on e-commerce giants Alibaba and JD.com, but there’s potentially a far more influential advocate linked to a regular chemist shop in western Sydney.

    Unknown to most, the Regents Park Pharmacy, 20 kilometres from the Sydney CBD, is responsible for creating the biggest personal shopper or daigou in Australia, a man with the power to make or break brands in China.

    That man is 47-year-old Hung Nguyen, a Vietnamese immigrant whose wife owns the pharmacy, and whose business is estimated to turn over $300 million annually, according to two people who have had dealings with him.

    Regents Park Pharmacy, from where Hung Nguyen started what has become Australia’s largest daigou. Louise Kennerley

    “We are talking semi-trailer loads of infant formula at a time,” said one source, who asked not to be named.

    Those semi-trailers are then transferred to cargo holds, which has made Mr Nguyen one of the largest buyers of Qantas airfreight in the country.

    Another source said Mr Nguyen was among a group of the mega-daigou who stopped buying infant formula from Bellamy’s Organic last year, contributing to the company’s near-death experience and the board turmoil that followed.

    These days Mr Nguyen has his own warehouses in western Sydney, but in the early days being linked to a pharmacy was crucial as it allowed him to buy everything from infant formula to vitamins at wholesale prices, when none of the major brands would deal with him directly.

    “It’s funny because now any brand would fall over themselves to get a meeting with him,” says one person who deals directly with Mr Nguyen.

    “He’s definitely the biggest daigou in the country and by a fair margin.”

    Inside Regents Park Pharmacy, where buying in bulk is common. Louise Kennerley

    Export wholesaler
    So big has he become that many believe he should no longer be called a daigou, rather referred to as an export wholesaler.

    Regardless of how he’s described, in recent years Mr Nguyen has emerged as a mythical figure in the grey-market sales channel between Australia and China, with many brands afraid of even mentioning his name for fear of offending the low-profile exporter.

    Those who will speak his name do so in hushed tones and are in near universal agreement that if Mr Nguyen supports your brand then you will have a good chance of making it in China.

    If he does not, then good luck.

    Hung Nguyen’s business, based in the pharmacy owned by his wife, is estimated to turn over $300 million a year. Louise Kennerley

    “He’s a lovely guy, very personable. He just does not seek out publicity,” says another source.

    Mr Nguyen did not return calls from The Australian Financial Review.

    He is part of a group of mega-daigou, thought to number five or six, who started out as small-time traders, sending popular Australian brands like Blackmores and Swisse to China, but have since become giant wholesalers in their own right.

    Most of these mega-daigou were quick to see the opportunity presented by China’s creation of free trade zones across the country from 2013 onwards and how these would open up the cross-border e-commerce trade.

    Livia Wang, organiser of the 2016 China Commerce Expo at Sydney Town Hall, says once your brand is popular, Hung Nguyen is “a very good partner to have”. Ryan Stuart

    Regulatory changes
    It was the creation of these zones which elevated the likes of Mr Nguyen from small-time trader to mega-daigou.

    The others in his league include PBX, which is believed to have some link to China’s state-owned Shanghai Pharma.

    While these mega-daigou are still very significant players, regulatory changes in April 2016 have slowed their growth.

    Sitting below these mega-daigou are an array of small traders who buy products off the shelf from Chemist Warehouse and the big supermarkets and then courier individual orders to clients in China.

    Mr Nguyen is part of a group of mega-daigou, thought to number five or six, who started out as small-time traders, sending popular Australian brands like Blackmores and Swisse to China, but have since become giant wholesalers in their own right.
    These so-called “pick and pack” daigou, who are often Chinese students living in Australia, usually sell their wares via WeChat, the mainland’s most popular messaging service and social media platform.

    Both groups of daigou have emerged over the past three years as a crucial link between brands in Australia and consumers in China.

    The divergent fortunes of Bellamy’s and The A2 Milk Company over the last year has provided a live example of the power of the daigou and their outsized influence on China-focused consumer stocks.

    Bellamy’s had sought to distance itself from this grey channel early last year and ship products directly into China, mainly through the big online retailers. It has since paid a high price for this strategic misstep and its stock is down 64 per cent in the last seven months.

    Nearly doubled
    A2, on the other hand, has embraced the daigou and flourished. The latest market share figures for Australian pharmacies and supermarkets in April showed A2’s market share had nearly doubled over the last year to 32.8 per cent, while Bellamy’s has seen its share more than halve over the same period to 10 per cent.

    “We are very positive on the daigou channel and we regard it highly,” said Peter Nathan, the Australian and NZ head of A2 Milk in an interview.

    “We ensure margins through the daigou supply chain are maintained by keeping a very tight control over inventory.”

    Mr Nathan said A2 also provided the daigou with marketing material and product information in Chinese, which could be distributed to clients via WeChat. But he won’t say what percentage of A2’s sales comes through the daigou channel, partly due to the difficulty of tracking purchases made in Australia and which are then sent to China.

    These so-called “pick and pack” daigou, who are often Chinese students living in Australia, usually sell their wares via WeChat, the mainland’s most popular messaging service and social media platform. David Rowe

    This strategy of supporting the daigou has pushed A2’s stock to record highs in recent weeks, partly by ensuring these small traders can compete with the big online platforms in China and still make a margin.

    Bellamy’s did the opposite by pushing too much stock into the market, which saw big discounts at online sites in China, and therefore put both the large and small daigou offside.

    “The big export daigou like him [Mr Nguyen] are very price sensitive, so when Bellamy’s started being discounted in China [because of oversupply] of course he stopped buying,” said one source.

    Another source confirmed Mr Nguyen and the handful of other mega daigou would have played a significant role in the problems encountered by Bellamy’s.

    Livia Wang, the chief executive of Access China, which works with smaller daigou in Australia, confirmed Mr Nguyen was among a handful of mega-daigou or export wholesalers.

    “He is doing great business because he supports great brands,” she said via phone.

    “Once your brand is popular he’s a very good partner to have.”

    Huge orders
    One brand that has dealt with Mr Nguyen said it was alerted to the size of his network when the Regents Park Pharmacy started placing huge orders in mid-2015.

    A2 chief executive Geoff Babidge. A2 has embraced the daigou and flourished. The Louise Kennerley

    “Put it this way, your average pharmacy is doing well to sell 200 units of a single product every month,” said the source.

    “Suddenly they [Regents Park Pharmacy] were placing orders for 2000 units, then 5000 units.”

    This huge volume of orders prompted many brands to begin dealing directly with Mr Nguyen and others like him.

    “His [Mr Nguyen’s] network in China is not necessarily big in numbers but all the people he deals with have the ability to sell significant amounts of product,” said one source.

    Australian corporate records show Mr Nguyen is a director of four Sydney-based companies, HVK Pty Ltd, Top Warehouse Wholesale, GN International Trading and Aus Health Wholesale.

    The latter three companies were set up in July and October of last year.

    Mr Hung and Van Thi Thuy Nguyen are listed as the two shareholders in HVK Pty Ltd, which was set up in November 1998.

    That’s just a few months after Van Thi Thuy Nguyen took control of Regents Park Pharmacy, according to the filings.

    Livia Wang, the chief executive of Access China, which works with smaller daigou in Australia, confirmed Mr Nguyen was among a handful of mega-daigou or export wholesalers. Penny Stephens

    However, she stopped being a director of HVK earlier this month.

  188. Atoms for Peace

    The seven periods of Mr Gormsby had a great line about a Brazilian shave that was more of a Bulgarian

  189. notafan

    Farmer Gez

    It’s reappearing in drips and drabs.

    I have bought a small pack yesterday and another today. Daughter also got some.

    If you are desperate can post up.

    Let me know as I rarely check the email linked to my cat professional.

  190. Evilelvis:

    This continues to be the vexing thing from a supposed virus scare. Flights still coming in, cruise ships still trying their luck and the only requirement is a trusting self isolation. Not one redirection to a single airport or port to limit spread, not one luxury plastic tent, not one Hazmat suited medico. Yet the economy has been absolutely hosed because of it.

    That’s because limiting spread was not the aim of our treacherous governing class – crashing the economy to generate multiple distressed takeovers would be closer.

  191. feelthebern

    Hopefully the next ScoMo announcement will include something along the lines of those with unwaxed snatches having to wear a symbol or something similar.
    This will allow the broader population to identify those amongst us with unwaxed snatches.

  192. bespoke

    Porter
    #3294802, posted on January 17, 2020 at 8:55 am
    173whatevs. Dead man walking.

    😎

    Sisters?

  193. Leigh Lowe

    Where was the uproar on this blog about Darwin’s Port?

    IT, nick, myself, Leigh Lowe and many others uproared.
    But it was lost amongst the travelogues and recipes.

    I reject the assertion that I have ever uproared about anything on this blog.

  194. JC

    Global Warmings Ghost
    #3377472, posted on March 26, 2020 at 4:38 pm

    David Stockman on the new round of looting in the United States. The perennial parasites in finance and now even in big business.

    Bird, Stockman has been a bear since 1983, when Reagan fired him. It’s fake news.

  195. feelthebern

    The Chinese leased the port.
    They paid a stupid amount to do so.

  196. notafan

    Qantas and Emirates are just about all share code aren’t they?

    And good luck finding an airline that stops m uslims from taking over the aisles when it suits them.

  197. cohenite

    You’re a funny guy ghost; funny weird, but funny.

  198. feelthebern

    I’ve downloaded the 883 page bill.
    I will review & report back on how to insert snout into trough.

  199. MatrixTransform

    and time for a 500 ml Oettinger Pilsner.

    Classy

    Cheers

  200. cohenite

    Unless, all the goods the Greenland group were daigou exporting were exempt products they would need permits issued by the DTIC. Which brave pollie is going to check; that’s right, none of them. Shoot ’em all; with a few exceptions.

  201. Shy Ted

    1735099 #3376949, posted on March 26, 2020 at 12:13 pm
    I was knocked back the other day by Meals on Wheels because of my age.

    Yes TooBob, it was your age. Not your personality. Definitely your age.

  202. Ellie

    It don’t but the lame excuse goes to credibility.

    You are missing a comma. Where – might you ask.

  203. JC

    Bird

    No name-calling. What does it matter if Stockman is a bear or a bull? We are talking about stealing.

    We’re not talking about “stealing”. Stealing has a dictionary definition, which is this:

    steal

    take (another person’s property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it.
    “thieves stole her bicycle”

    thieve
    take
    take for oneself
    help oneself to
    loot

    Stockman is a quack and he’s been wrong since the 80’s so don’t listen to him as he has nothing worthwhile to say.

    We are only talking about gambling tangentially. Bears and Bulls, these are casino terms.

    Show me in any casino game where those terms are used. Go!

    The main subject is hateful traitors stealing during national emergencies.

    You mean like the Chinese who you support?

    The Chinese could have invaded Christmas Island, our boys could be needing resources to dig them out, and some people in finance would still be using it as an opportunity to loot the rest of us.

    That’s a very long stick to beat someone with. Try harder as that analogy sucks big time.

    Trump has made a serious mistake here. He’s allowed the usual looters to damage the economy for many years to come. Not so much from the shutdown. But from Federal Reserve behaviour and from the bailout more generally.

    Of course. Bird, you have zero understanding of monetary economics. You need to shut up.

  204. Ellie

    Is everyone’s second language English?

    I can speak He*bro and German.

    Pounce!

  205. Cardimona

    Chris Kenny (on Sky News Radio) was just talking about a traffic app that is being used to plot people’s movements in c19-affected cities.
    I thought, “Wow, he reads the Cat!”

    So I waited for him to mention Wuhan…
    …didn’t happen.
    Sad.

  206. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Yes TooBob, it was your age. Not your personality. Definitely your age.

    Umm, we’ve got volunteer firies in our brigade, born in the same year as Numbers Bob.

  207. JC

    Bird, remember about a decade again you were accusing all the bank CEOs of being a joo sish cabal trying to destroy the west. Funny when you accused Jamie Dimon of being joo/ish and he’s actually of Greek descent. Remember?

  208. Is everyone’s second language English?

    I’m fluent in both ocker and toff.

  209. JMH

    Winston: That’s because limiting spread was not the aim of our treacherous governing class – crashing the economy to generate multiple distressed takeovers would be closer.

    And that, disgustingly – is the nub is what we are faced with. This is treason writ large.

  210. feelthebern

    Dimon should have more dignity & call himself James.
    He’s not a teenager.

  211. bespoke

    Shy Ted
    #3377510, posted on March 26, 2020 at 5:04 pm
    1735099 #3376949, posted on March 26, 2020 at 12:13 pm
    I was knocked back the other day by Meals on Wheels because of my age.
    Yes TooBob, it was your age. Not your personality. Definitely your age.

    By bosses wife volunteers for Meals on Wheels and is around the same age.

  212. JC

    feelthebern
    #3377523, posted on March 26, 2020 at 5:13 pm

    Dimon should have more dignity & call himself James.
    He’s not a teenager.

    You could call him nancy and he’d still be regarded as running the best bank in the world. The fucker is sick at the moment.

  213. This is treason writ large.

    It’s HOP time!

    Danny Boy*! Scotty!

    Come on down!

    *aka Dan of the Dead

  214. bespoke

    All that literary skill waisted, shame.

  215. Nick

    Old Asian lady going through rubbish bins looking for bottles, humping huge bags, has a disabled parking sticker on her late model car lol.

  216. JC

    Interesting.

    It’s not out of the question if Biden keeps looking out of touch and irrelevant.

    Democrats are publicly talking about “contingency options” for their July convention in Milwaukee in case the coronavirus persists in being a public-health threat. But privately, some are also talking about needing a Plan B if Joe Biden, their nominee apparent, continues to flounder.

    Some Democrats are openly talking up New York governor Andrew Cuomo, whose profile has soared during the crisis, as a Biden stand-in. Yesterday, a Draft Cuomo 2020 account on Twitter announced that “Times have changed & we need Gov. Cuomo to be the nominee. Our next POTUS must be one w/an ability to lead thru this crisis.”

    Charles Pierce, the politics blogger for Esquire magazine, wrote a piece headlined “With Two Words, Andrew Cuomo Established Himself as the Leader This Country Needs Now.” He enthused that Cuomo’s news conference last Friday “essentially (shutting) down the economy of his state . . . was a master class in leveling with the public.”

  217. Caveman

    Morisson gearing up for a G20 meeting by conference call. Its different with though with Global warming you have to meet in person, what a rort.

  218. bespoke

    Water is wet.

    boom hahaha!

    Lame and lazy.

  219. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    My man, Tim Pool, with the US stimulus update.
    Trump to win by more than 2016 – 3.5/1 @ Lads.

    now that looks enticing….

  220. JC

    Bern

    I think it was heart problems, but certainly not the china bug.

  221. Ellie

    Is the handsome Graeme here? If he is – please explain the Holocaust. 🤔😁👍❤

  222. Arky

    I spent a bit of time last year doing some analysis of the debt cycle and interest rates.
    The signal is two sine waves of different wavelengths.
    Projected out into the future both interest rates signals move upwards in the mid 2020’s.
    I think inflation and high interest rates are in our near future, and most everything happening now is either a trigger or at most, bringing forward by a year or two what was going to happen anyway.

  223. thefrollickingmole

    A soothing bit of music and filmclip for Arky…

  224. MatrixTransform

    All that literary skill …

    don’t forget, frequent borrower from the Gibber Lexicon.

  225. Ellie

    *Separate the Israeli issue from my people

  226. thefrollickingmole

    Ooops sorry wrong clip, here it is.

  227. calli

    Speaking of Cats who are sick, has Adam (in Holland) turned up? He was unwell the other day and thought he might be the first Cat off the rank.

    I sincerely hope not.

  228. thefrollickingmole

    Or was it this one?

  229. MatrixTransform

    Arky, Fourier was a sexy bastard

  230. Ellie

    Calli – Adam was here the other night. He was in full swing.

  231. thefrollickingmole

    Secret footage of Arky venturing from the house..

  232. Ellie

    Look at the first Testament.

  233. egg_

    Hasn’t SloMo announced he’ll prosecute Daigou shoppers?
    Has it quelled the raiding hordes?

  234. JC
    #3377531, posted on March 26, 2020 at 5:18 pm
    Interesting

    Yeah, good link that.
    It ain’t gonna be Biden. Unless – Sacrificial goat??
    Just checked – he’s screamed in from the clouds @sportsbet to 36/1.

  235. Arky

    Arky, Fourier was a sexy bastard

    ..
    I drew them by hand.
    I don’t suppose it was anything original.
    And I guess that people already know about harmonics and financial stuff, not that I have read up on it, just playing about with some graphs.

  236. Keith Forwheels

    Arky
    #3377537, posted on March 26, 2020 at 5:20 pm

    I spent a bit of time last year doing some analysis of the debt cycle and interest rates.
    The signal is two sine waves of different wavelengths.
    Projected out into the future both interest rates signals move upwards in the mid 2020’s.
    I think inflation and high interest rates are in our near future, and most everything happening now is either a trigger or at most, bringing forward by a year or two what was going to happen anyway.

    It’s a classic hyperinflationary setup, and it’s nested all back on the Fed balance sheet. BUT. In the age of public order lockdowns, MMT, digital currency, social credit, etc. Anything is possible. How big is your control grid? How much do your slaves love their servitude? It’s not the 1920’s in Germany, technology has changed and people are medicated up to their eyeballs. Interesting times.

  237. Speaking of Cats who are sick, has Adam

    Please, we all know our guy in the coffee shop has won the Cat Corona Corpse raffle.
    I’m pouring out a ’40 for the nigga now.
    Home brew fuel/hand sanitizer/mixer, natch!

  238. EvilElvis

    That’s because limiting spread was not the aim of our treacherous governing class – crashing the economy to generate multiple distressed takeovers would be closer.

    I know, I know, Winston. I think it’s a coping mechanism throwing that out once a day. How no one sees this is the problem. We’ll be down the same road in a jiffy, just faster.

  239. calli

    Thank goodness for that. He said he had a temperature and a sore throat.

    #motherkitteh

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