Fun police telling single swimmer he is a menace to society.

Following on from CL’s post below.

Update: I found this on Facebook.

 

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50 Responses to Fun police telling single swimmer he is a menace to society.

  1. MPH

    I’ve said for many years that actually, in the long run, the prison warders beat the prisoners.

  2. Roger

    High viz nazi.

    He’s just following orders.

  3. WDYSIA

    No, a single swimmer does not pose a public health risk. But if they exempt him or her, then others would ask why not them. And so that single swimmer attracts other swimmers who attract others and so acts as a contagion. It’s shitty, it stinks but that is human behaviour. This is why you, too, dear Sinclair, went hoarding toilet paper.

  4. mh

    Is the 1.5 metre distance being breached here?

    Very dangerous behaviour from the hi-vis warden.

    And look at the seagulls!

  5. Tom

    Denim jeans and hi-viz look-at-me — looks like one of Dickhead Dan’s unelected stormtroopers of the bureaucracy, making up the numbers when there aren’t enough useful idiots in Fatty Ashton’s ALP Policy Compliance Bureau to go around.

  6. Fang

    The problem is not the one person! Its the 5000 others that think, if he can go swimming, why not me! Yes, Mr Sinclair, I do understand your issue if our liberties been infringed,and I agree whole heartily with you on that! But you you really want to take the risk, that you will be ok? Those that do get a nasty taste of this virus, say “Never again!”
    Yes, I don’t like the actual developments of the world closing down our financial lives, but! Im now starting to understand that if we dont get it under control, but let it run rampant! It will still cost our community trillions anyway! Maybe over a longer period of time, but still cost us!
    And Yes, in full disclosure, (Im married to a Theater Nurse! I challenge you to sit and talk to several high ranking Nurses, and see what they say?)

  7. Robbo

    Sorry but the actions of hundreds of absolute dickheads at Bondi and St Kilda has caused the closedown and that is one thing that photo of the single swimmer does not show. Two postings above from WDYSIA and Fang point out the reasons why quite clearly. Only those who do not want to understand the situation would disagree with them.

  8. John Brumble

    “Theatre nurse”s and “high ranking Nurses” (what’s that? Admiral Nurses?) are paid to do a job. Part of that job is not lecturing or hectoring the population about what the population should do. It’s mone of their damn business.

  9. Sinclair Davidson

    This is why you, too, dear Sinclair, went hoarding toilet paper.

    I did not hoard toilet paper – I wish I did.

  10. John Brumble

    What business is it of yours, Robbo? These people are only a danger to themselves, if that.

  11. Sinclair Davidson

    Im married to a Theater Nurse!

    Whoop de doo. Makes you an expert.

  12. Tom

    Fang and WDYSIA, the point is that Victorians don’t have to be treated like children, which is the first impulse of Big Government fascists like Daniel Andrews, who’s fine with taking bribes from crooked land developers, while his whole governing strategy is to get as many people as possible addicted to government welfare — a carbon copy of leftwing parties around the world seeking to increase the welfare herd while excusing government corruption. They all treat voters like idiots and stopping people walking on the beach is just the pretext they need.

  13. Sinclair Davidson

    Robbo – the photo’s that I saw from St. Kilda yesterday did not suggest to me that people were too close to each other. To the contrary there were gaps between groups of people. The people close to each other were probably people from the same households.

  14. FelixKruell

    Set the social distancing rule, and let the police enforce that. At the beach, at the park etc. It’s not about your location. It’s about your social density.

    At the moment we allow people to mingle anywhere they like. Except for cafes, restaurants and beaches etc. no consistency.

  15. Some History

    Sinclair Davidson
    #3381053, posted on March 28, 2020 at 4:18 pm
    Im married to a Theater Nurse!

    Whoop de doo. Makes you an expert.

    Beautiful, Sinc.

  16. Some History

    No, a single swimmer does not pose a public health risk. But if they exempt him or her, then others would ask why not them. And so that single swimmer attracts other swimmers who attract others and so acts as a contagion.

    A contagion of swimmers?

  17. DHS

    Im now starting to understand that if we dont get it under control, but let it run rampant

    Why do you use the word “understand”, when the correct word is actually “brainwashed”?

  18. DHS

    Im married to a Theater Nurse! I challenge you to sit and talk to several high ranking Nurses, and see what they say?

    Hahahaha!!!

    Doctors never publicly debate their ideas – much less nurses – and they all believe in mass censorship of anybody who dares question them.

  19. Robbo

    As I wrote in my earlier post “only those who do not want to understand would disagree…”. That flushed out a few.

  20. C.L.

    … if we dont get it under control, but let it run rampant …

    … we’ll become immune to it all the quicker.
    Vaccine is 12 to 18 months away.
    All of this bullshit theatre will soon come to an end because pretty soon there won’t be any money to pay the degenerates like Daniel Andrews who are still pulling six figures.

  21. JC

    Why is the imbecile wearing a high viz flak jacket on a beach with a single person getting out of the water. God almighty. The swimmer should just ignore him or politely tell him to fuck off.

  22. win

    Now do we follow the money trail to find out why the local Queensland council elections are so important to the Sate Government hey cant be postponed. Its an interesting speculation as to how many people will contract the Wuhan Corona virus this Saturday in Queensland.

  23. Tim Neilson

    Now do we follow the money trail to find out why the local Queensland council elections are so important to the Sate Government hey cant be postponed.

    I understand that the LNP dominate most councils in Qld.

    Thus, postponing the elections would postpone a chance for Labor/Greens to increase their power.

    No number of deaths is too high to prevent that from happening.

    Also, the virus enables scrutineers to be restricted, which will enable the “right” result to be reached more efficiently.

  24. C.L.

    Its an interesting speculation as to how many people will contract the Wuhan Corona virus this Saturday in Queensland.

    I would say very many.

  25. John Brumble

    Robbo, I suggest you run along to a Greens blog. It’d suit your “anyone who doesn’t agree with what I think must just not know enough and needs to be condescendingly ruled by their betters” attitude.

  26. egg_

    I challenge you to sit and talk to several high ranking Nurses, and see what they say?)

    How is their hair colour going?

  27. Docket62

    Those that do get a nasty taste of this virus, say “Never again!”

    Bollocks. Ive had it, and the Flu was much worse and lasted longer.

  28. Dan H

    Is this a member of the same fearless body of persons who have consistently refused to interfere in the destruction of Air B&B property by gangs of youths over the last several years? I thought that the picture of St Kilda Beach was deliberately distorted by use of a long lens, the foreshortening effect giving the impression of crowds much closer to each other than they really were. Humbug all round, especially from the media.

  29. Docket62

    I challenge you to sit and talk to several high ranking Nurses, and see what they say?)

    See the problem with ‘high ranking’ anything (Police,Fire,Ambo’s etc) is that they are only in it for what they can get. It’s why they broke ranks for promotion. Ask anyone at Senior Conny level for example. They’re the grunts of today, like any that are ‘on the line’. But not the Elegant Bouffant of the higher ranks.

    Too many cooks……

  30. Sinclair Davidson

    Janet Albrechtsen has a great comment on medical doctors today – nurses as similar, but not as smart as doctors …

    … doctors have a laser-like focus on medical issues and have little or no knowledge of, and sometimes not much interest in, the social, economic or cultural conse­quences of their advice.

  31. Robber Baron

    Big night in front of the TV tonight. Now on 401 Fast and Furious Presents: Hobbs and Shaw followed at 8.30 by Once Upon A Time in Hollywood.

    Giddy up!

  32. John A

    Roger #3381005, posted on March 28, 2020 at 3:51 pm

    High viz nazi.

    He’s just following orders

    Nah, get it right, Robbo.

    It’s “Regulations are regulations!”

    🙂

  33. MatrixTransform

    High viz nazi.

    High viz nazi Stasi

    get used to it

    … it’s for your own good

  34. Some History

    Janet Albrechtsen has a great comment on medical doctors today – nurses as similar, but not as smart as doctors …
    … doctors have a laser-like focus on medical issues and have little or no knowledge of, and sometimes not much interest in, the social, economic or cultural conse¬quences of their advice.

    Very briefly.

    Most seem to be unfamiliar with the Eugenics catastrophe of early last century that was first popularized in America and was then the underlying foundation of the N#zi framework. Eugenics was run by the medically-aligned. The two largest group memberships of the N#zi Party were doctors and lawyers. In America, Eugenics was embraced/funded by the mega-wealthy (e.g., Rockefeller, Ford, Carnegie, Harriman) and the “educated” class. It was taught in prestigious universities. The thinking of the time was that if doctors say so, it must be right. Big mistake: Big, big mistake.

    The medical model is extremely limited in perspective. The danger point is where the medical establishment becomes so socially dominant that it effectively becomes a partner of the State, where the medical view becomes the “important” view. The medical model views people as [only] physical units. Public Health views people in large groups or as a total population, just somewhat more complex than a herd of cattle. The term “herd” is still used today. At this population level, the idea of the autonomous individual does not exist. The idea of a relatively free society does not exist. Public Health believes that it is the most qualified to direct the “herd”, as if it owns the “herd”. It can only produce the totalitarian urge in its practitioners. This is entirely at odds with the idea of a relatively free society.

    Whatever lessons that were learned post-WWII about the severe limitations of the medical model are gone… lost. We’re right back to the medical domination of a century ago. There have been warnings about Public Health over the last few decades using the example of anti-smoking in particular. A dictatorial streak has again been allowed to flourish in the medical establishment and this nasty streak is showing up in politicians that listen exclusively to the medically-aligned.

    So here we are with covid-19. What is clear is that politicians are only beholden to a domineering medical view that is quite happy to steam-roll every other dimension of the human condition. If we had a balanced view on [multidimensional] health, a forced total lockdown in a relatively free society would have been unimaginable. The question that would be asked is what options do we have in dealing with a pandemic in a relatively free society. Instead, we now have a domineering medical establishment and dumbed-down politicians that believe they can do whatever they want under the slogan of Saving Lives™.

    So, in addition to the long-term economic damage being done, members of a relatively free society find themselves in just a short time in what is essentially house arrest. It seems like a foreign, totalitarian power has taken over. There’s something seriously wrong here.

  35. Nob

    Australia’s beaches and parks are the perfect accessible places for healthy socially distanced walks.

    (Full disclosure: I’ve rooted several nurses.)

  36. Fang

    I shake me head in disgust with some of you so called I know better crowd!

    So some of you morons understand me better! High ranking Nurses, the ones that have been around the block a few times, (but not in in Nobbys bed/floor/backseat) and understand the risks involved with this!
    One of these nurses WILL be looking after you if/when you come down with it!

    All of you libertarian high and mighty talking about how it didnt affect you! Great, thank god you had it easy! Arn’t you a lucky bastard! There will be thousands not so lucky.

    If we had some person walking around sticking tiny radioactive balls of uranium into people! Alot of you would up in arms about catching the bastard!
    Im an avid read of Catallaxy files and love the comments and debates on here! But as a big believer in freedom and liberty, I will have to abstain from commenting again on this topic, as some of you are happy to be carriers of this nasty virus to some people, but dont care if it kills some people?

  37. Nob

    Are you talking about the police or the lone bather?

  38. Some History

    So some of you morons understand me better! High ranking Nurses, the ones that have been around the block a few times, (but not in in Nobbys bed/floor/backseat) and understand the risks involved with this!

    Have you ever heard of Nurse Ratched, singularly and institutional?

  39. egg_

    Public Health believes that it is the most qualified to direct the “herd”, as if it owns the “herd”.

    You see the most unhealthy people imaginable amongst hospital medical staff – talk about the weak members of the herd – how much projection is going on?

  40. egg_

    Is “Fang” ‘Elf Nazi Grig’s puppet?

  41. Nighthawk the Elder

    Sinclair Davidson
    #3381232, posted on March 28, 2020 at 5:38 pm
    Janet Albrechtsen has a great comment on medical doctors today – nurses as similar, but not as smart as doctors …

    … doctors have a laser-like focus on medical issues and have little or no knowledge of, and sometimes not much interest in, the social, economic or cultural conse­quences of their advice.

    Unfortunately I can’t read the article and I refuse to pay Rupert’s danegeld for the paywallian when I already pay for his other tabloid trash.

    Just based on the quote Sinc posted though, reminded me of last year’s medivac disaster. And the architect of that little beauty was of course (drum roll please), the temporary member for Wentworth, Dr Kerryn Phelps (for a doctor she is).

    And who has been popping up on our screens lately as the media anointed expert, usually to contradict anything the Government, national cabinet or chief health officer(s) may have just announced? Why it’s none other than professional talking head and media legend the good doctor herself.

    Former Health Minister Michael Wooldridge had her worked out almost 20 years ago.

  42. Some History

    Bear in mind that anything remotely resembling the Hippocratic Oath has long been dispensed with. Similar thing happened in the lead up to the N#zi era. The medical establishment does considerable good work. It also has an abominable history with regard to control.

  43. Nob

    UK is currently trying to canonise NHS workers during this crisis.

    I admire them as much as anyone but they’re not volunteers and those of us who are still working are all contributing and unlike them, we’re not sure we’ll still be employed in a month’s time, or be able to retire early on a defined benefits pension.

    Sure if the worst happens I’ll be grateful to the nurse who cares for me and perhaps they’ll be grateful to the workers who feed them, power their buildings and provide the fossil fuels for their emergency vehicles.

    There’s no hierarchy of virtue in the process that makes all this happen.

  44. Squirrel

    These wanton hedonists are just going to have to buzz off home for the time being – but keep themselves pert and tawny, so that we can eventually rev up the the tourist advertising to lure all those foreign pervs Down Under when the crisis has passed.

  45. Chris M

    I will have to abstain from commenting again on this topic

    Fang don’t get too buzzed off, it’s always good to hear a variety of views. I was hoping you would comment on the mandated election voting to see if that was OK or if they should fine themselves or something. Perhaps a public flogging or tar & fetahers might be the go. BTW now they are saying 2m distance apart is not nearly enough, at least in an enclosed space.

  46. Docket62

    I shake me head in disgust with some of you so called I know better crowd!

    I take umbrage at that, I know I’m better

  47. Kneel

    “I challenge you to sit and talk to several high ranking Nurses, and see what they say?”

    I challenge you to ask an epidemiologist instead – specifically, ask them to show you the statistical difference in infection rate and death rate between covid-19 and a normal, if “nasty” or “bad” seasonal flu.
    For example, (IIRC) WSJ reports that a full test of the village of Vo in northern Italy, showed 2.7% infected asymptomatic. Ditto for a flight from Wuhan. If that is representative of Wuhan generally, then over 175,000 Wuhan people at least would have had it, moving the fatality rate down by somewhere between 5 and 30 times – at 30 times, it’s the same death rate as flu, at 15 times, same as “nasty” flu, and at 5 times a “very nasty” flu.
    This is likely an underestimate of the infected, as typical rates of flu infection are around three times higher, and covid-19 is allegedly more infectious.
    Despite the “very infective” claims, Diamond Princess – an enclosed environment with pretty much forced social contact – only saw 20% infected, and despite an age demographic skewed to >60’s – which show an approx. 10x more fatalities then those younger – a <2% fatality rate.
    So the question really is: is COVID-19 actually this years "seasonal flu"? Is it actually less nasty for the healthy, while quite bad for the immuno-compromised and those on certain drugs treatments known to facilitate corona virus infections and increase their complications (90+% of Italian deaths were in the latter group!)
    I am NOT saying we shouldn't have done anything, I'm saying we need to keep a firm view of ALL the data as it becomes available, and act appropriately. We are not. Instead, just like in so much else, we have lost sight of the actual goal (saving people) and instead focus on the gross number of symptomatic and tested. We need lots of people randomly selected from the population tested for both CV infection and CV antibodies (that is: how many have it and how many are already over it).

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