Open Forum: March 28, 2020

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  1. Top Ender

    Arrrrrrrggggaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh!

    Multiple forums rule!

    Could we have a new forum every six hours please?

  2. Top Ender

    Biggles remembered.

    Where IS Gareth Evans these days?

    Didn’t he have an affair with a whiteboard?

  3. EvilElvis

    Trop tren round eye fruckers!

  4. Rex Mango

    TE, how did you get the intel about the new forum?

  5. Rex Mango

    Watching Absolutely Fabulous the Movie right now. Should I switch to Rage, or watch Ozzy Man on Youtube?

  6. Top Ender

    Dunno Rex…’tis always a mystery to me how a new forum starts.

    But I heard a while back the Forum changes over at midnight Friday.

  7. Rex Mango

    Gareth Evans was the public speaking coach for Kevin Rudd, his greatest gift to this great country.

  8. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Where IS Gareth Evans these days?

    Wasn’t dear old Gareth Gareth last heard of, dancing the mattress mazurka with one of Don Chipp’s old party? What was their name again?

  9. Rex Mango

    I checked and there was no knew one when you posted, then I went back and there was.

  10. John Commenus

    These forums are spreading like COVID 19

  11. Rossini

    Watching The Teach on SBS
    Better than watching the news

  12. Rex Mango

    This COVID19 a very strange disease. Starts from China, but they get on top of it quickly. Gets to the rest of the world, where it can’t be controlled and British Royal Family and PM go down with it. Chinese have long running beef with UK thanks to HK. This disease locks up world economy as well.

  13. Pedro the Loafer

    I bought a Lotto ticket today.

    For the life of me, I can’t think why I bothered.

    No foreign travel, nothing to buy, shops shut, not even a sausage sizzle at Bunnings.

  14. Rossini

    Quiet night tonight
    Must be the China virus. Early lock down?

  15. Arky

    What was their name again?

    ..
    Cheryl.

  16. Rex Mango

    Think Cheryl Kernot is the name you want. Hopefully some kindred spirit has posted the Ministerial Office CCTV to Pornhub by now.

  17. Rex Mango

    Watching Rage now & these stupid obscure bands think it somehow cool to play stupid obscure music. Here is what I would play on the red coach. Average band, but great clip utilising both cars and girls, with the girl from Bachelor Party:

  18. Rex Mango

    Next would be obligatory nod to Aussie rock & choose Cold Chisel’s second best track, but good film clip filmed at Four In Hand, Paddington:

  19. feelthebern

    Open plan offices were the biggest mistake in business culture ever.

    The open plan office is the best incubator of ideas.

  20. Rex Mango

    At this point the punters think you are just a bogan, so you need to demonstrate artistic integrity, but also everyone by now gagging for some flesh. Throw in Duran Duran, but not Girls on Film, another lessor known track with lesbo sub plot. Gets em all in:

  21. Rex Mango

    Hey, you clowns are interrupting my Rage Play List.

  22. Rex Mango

    Time to speed things up so throw in some House of Pain:

  23. Rex Mango

    Which is perfect segue for Thin Lizzy:

  24. Rex Mango

    You then finish with some real quality stuff:

  25. Overburdened

    https://youtu.be/j81Vx-0uM0k

    JJ Cale after midnight.

    Sleep would be good.

    Hubs are in lockdown and when you are hands on it doesn’t seem too particularly reassuring.

    Unlikely to get back to home camp due to issues other than travel restrictions.

    The term press ganging leaps to mind.

    Call me petty, all the pricks that had a lend of me because of my early warning about the current situation can still go and fuck themselves. As they no doubt do without my encouragement.

    Meanwhile, for some the situation is not an abstract idea. It would be no good if the bug got a hold in the community. Which it will in the cohort I am dealing with.

    Unsurprisingly it will be dickheads like me that are heading out the back door as we say due to the infection.

    There was some rain up here a month or so back, so now there is a plague of grasshoppers.

    The air is thick with them.

    Where I am is so pisspoor it didn’t rate having locusts so we have settled for second best.

    An OT biblical type would see this as an end of days scenario.

    I remain sanguine.

    I should have stuck with being retired.

    Would like to put more meat on the bones but not authorised.

    Please pay attention to the talking heads on the television or whatever.

  26. Overburdened

    https://youtu.be/j81Vx-0uM0k

    JJ Cale after midnight.

    Sleep would be good.

    Hubs are in lockdown and when you are hands on it doesn’t seem too particularly reassuring.

    Unlikely to get back to home camp due to issues other than travel restrictions.

    The term press ganging leaps to mind.

    Call me petty, all the pricks that had a lend of me because of my early warning about the current situation can still go and fuck themselves. As they no doubt do without my encouragement.

    Meanwhile, for some the situation is not an abstract idea. It would be no good if the bug got a hold in the community. Which it will in the cohort I am dealing with.

    Unsurprisingly it will be dickheads like me that are heading out the back door as we say due to the infection.

    There was some rain up here a month or so back, so now there is a plague of grasshoppers.

    The air is thick with them.

    Where I am is so pisspoor it didn’t rate having locusts so we have settled for second best.

    An OT biblical type would see this as an end of days scenario.

    I remain sanguine.

    I should have stuck with being retired.

    Would like to put more meat on the bones but not authorised.

    Please pay attention to the talking heads on the television or whatever.

  27. Rex Mango

    Hang on, one more gotta go out with Kickstart My Heart:

  28. Armadillo

    Would like to put more meat on the bones but not authorised.

    Are you the only person in your workplace called “Overburdened”?

    Spill the beans.

  29. Overburdened

    Need to add regarding where I am being pisspoor, this is in relation to the society, not the financial opportunity.

    As Midnight Oil remarked, there’s nothing so precious as a hole in the ground; which shows that narcissistic fuckwits can occasionally be right.

  30. Overburdened

    Armadillo

    If you go to the beach you would think that it is a serene vista if you didn’t know what’s going on under the surface.

  31. Overburdened

    Don’t be a fuckwit just because you don’t have experience I always say

  32. Overburdened

    Armadillo

    Apologies.

    No doubt you have your finger on the pulse.

    OAO

  33. Knuckle Dragger

    Geez. Missed an entire thread in the last 18 hours.

    Boris Johnson has coronavirus. Guess that herd immunity thing didn’t cut it.

  34. Armadillo

    Boris Johnson has coronavirus.

    Yep Knuckles. Elites disease has struck again.

  35. Armadillo

    Arky is trying to convince everyone it’s because all the elites are shaking hands with the common man.

  36. EvilElvis

    Good game of footy on tonight, KD.

  37. Armadillo

    The most likely explaination is that they have all been sleeping with the enemy.

  38. Armadillo

    If you are starving enough to eat a bat, it’s highly unlikely that you are booking a cruise on the Ruby Princess, or shaking hands with Prince Charles or Boris.

  39. NoFixedAddress

    a bit of culture

  40. NoFixedAddress

    and I laughed and laughed and laughed

    Coronavirus: The European Union Unravels

    by Soeren Kern
    March 27, 2020 at 5:00 am
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    Faced with an existential threat, EU member states, far from joining together to confront the pandemic as a unified bloc, instinctively are returning to pursuing the national interest. After years of criticizing U.S. President Donald J. Trump for pushing an “America First” policy, European leaders are reverting to the very nationalism they have publicly claimed to despise.

    Ever since the threat posed by coronavirus came into focus, Europeans have displayed precious little of the high-minded multilateral solidarity that for decades has been sold to the rest of the world as a bedrock of European unity. The EU’s unique brand of soft power, said to be a model for a post-national world order, has been shown to be an empty fiction.

    In recent weeks, EU member states have closed their borders, banned exports of critical supplies and withheld humanitarian aid. The European Central Bank, the guarantor of the European single currency, has treated with unparalleled disdain the eurozone’s third-largest economy, Italy, in its singular hour of need. The member states worst affected by the pandemic — Italy and Spain — have been left by the other member states to fend for themselves.

    The European Union, seven decades in the making, is now unravelling in real time — in weeks.

    https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/15803/coronavirus-european-union-unravels

  41. Armadillo

    Early result. I can’t recall what I took.

    The British coronavirus death toll has risen to 578, seeing its biggest daily increase with 115 coronavirus fatalities in 24 hours — and an explosion of cases in Gwent, Wales.

    Let’s not be hasty. Some of these people might still be breathing.

  42. egg_

    Manila lockdown ends 14 April, I believe.

  43. Morning to the Cat News Service!
    Can anyone else in Yarragrad smell bushfire smoke?
    Anything going down??

  44. Mater

    A friend in Singapore (h/t Boris) explained to me last night that they’d been in lock down for about two months now. During that time, the restrictions had been relaxed periodically when the numbers appeared under control, only to have them spike again and the restrictions quickly tightened once more. Another friend, a Chemical, Biological, Radiological and Nuclear Warfare specialist, told me that any (and all) modelling that’d done for Anthrax and the like, predicted this scenario to go on for around three years.

    Clearly locking up the country like this whilst the economy bleeds out (or atrophies) is not a solution. At some point, and the sooner the better, we need to switch to ‘Key Point Defence’ and get people working again. We have the advantage of knowing that a large demographic of our workers is at much less risk. This is an advantage in what is a bad situation, which has no ideal outcome. This option would not exist if all were equally susceptible, we should be grateful for at least that.

    I know people would likely to die from this course of action, even some of the younger demographic. They are dying now from the virus, but so is the economy – the death of which has its own health repercussions. We have a Universal Healthcare System, not a free one.

    The modern world is largely free from moral dilemmas. With rare exceptions, the modern community has never had to decide whether to charge a Machine Gun post from the left, right or ‘up the guts’, knowing that some death awaits, in all three options. For the first time in many peoples lives, they are facing a potentially deadly threat which can’t be mitigated by a visit to the GP…and it shows with the hysteria. Equally, it’s the first-time many people have faced a situation which doesn’t have a ‘rosy’ solution available. It shows in the bumbling, clumsy efforts we are currently witnessing.

    This can’t go on for three years. People will die, but that is now inevitable. Life’s a bitch.

    I wish it wasn’t so, but one of the characteristics of being a grown up is accepting the reality that you wish wasn’t.

  45. egg_

    Faced with an existential threat, EU member states, far from joining together to confront the pandemic as a unified bloc, instinctively are returning to pursuing the national interest.

  46. egg_

    Clearly locking up the country like this whilst the economy bleeds out (or atrophies) is not a solution.

    Talk about the bleeding obvious, thank Christ Trump is dragging us out of the boffin swamp.
    BoJo is just a muppet.

  47. egg_

    I know people would likely to die from this course of action, even some of the younger demographic. They are dying now from the virus, but so is the economy – the death of which has its own health repercussions. We have a Universal Healthcare System, not a free one.

    Five paragraphs to say livelihoods* vs lives?

    *We know suicides, etc. will be a toll.

  48. egg_

    We know suicides, etc. will be a toll.

    Methinks this why ScoMo has shown some compassion in his recent speech.

  49. Mater

    Five paragraphs to say livelihoods* vs lives?

    If I didn’t use five paragraphs, Monty (and his ilk) would interpret what you wrote as:

    Money vs Lives

    People like Monty need reality explained to them in some detail…and even that doesn’t always work.

  50. egg_

    Money vs Lives

    I’d have thought on an Economics blog, even an amoeba like M0nty would appreciate that money = life, unless they’re obfuscating, like one of Grigory’s many [email protected] sock accounts.

  51. bespoke

    Megan
    #3380132, posted on March 27, 2020 at 11:50 pm
    <blockquoteYou can’t run a firm with everyone spread out and not collaborating for a big part of the week. Ideas get tossed around when you’re together, noit apart and mostly talking through whatsapp. We’re also social animals who need to be connected visually for a large part of the time. Working from home has been and is around, but that’s about one day a week.

    My corporate experience working in specialised knowledge transfer supports this view. The best transfer of knowledge on several projects happened between two people waiting for a lift or the huddle of desperates grabbing a fag in the underground carpark. It was utterly uncanny how much they knew about the business, the clients and the projects long before the powers that be had a freaking clue.

    If only it stayed that way but when some clown starts organizing outside social events the familiarity of contempt kicks in. The it boring gossip bitching about the same thing. Mining towns are the worst for this you can’t go to the pub, sporting events without having to sit next to a boss or there wife’s.
    I like my job sometimes I never see my boss for weeks. The only extended face time is during vintage and by the end we are mutually glad it’s over.

  52. egg_

    Their ABC replaces Saturday Morning Rage with 3 hours of News?
    Doomcasting trumps all.
    Isolated folk cop more doom on the National Broadcaster, rather than the usual Saturday Morning entertainment fare?

  53. egg_

    1,000 salivating j’ismists on the public coin at Their disposal.

  54. egg_

    Dr Norman Swan will be featured on the upcoming 4 Corners episode, whipping up hysteria; can’t let a good flu panic go to waste.

  55. Bear Necessities

    +1 to Maters analysis.

    The longer we wait the tougher the recovery will be.

    Australia lost 50,000 soldiers in ww1. This is much less of a crisis than that.

  56. johanna

    Global Warmings Ghost
    #3379939, posted on March 27, 2020 at 9:28 pm

    Wake up Johanna to give us more music because I’m kind of stuck on her last two offerings. Need a tie breaker.

    Perfect autumn day coming up here.

  57. johanna

    The Rascals (formerly The Young Rascals) were a bunch of Eye-tie kids from Noo Yok and Noo Joisey who were not exactly afficiandos of the beauties of nature.

    But, they really hit the spot with that song, even though for them going outside for a walk meant hitting the greasy pavements of a big city.

  58. Herodotus

    With all the music clips doing the rounds, has anyone done My Corona to the tune of My Sharona?
    Enquiring minds need to know.

  59. DHS

    The modern world is largely free from moral dilemmas.

    There is no dilemma between deaths from the virus vs everything else.

    The dilemma is breaking the shackles of our doctor worship vs committing collective suicide.

    It isn’t hard to see that the tests are all a joke and that this “virus” is not spreading and is not pathogenic. Every observation any individual can make leads inexorably to such conclusions. But nobody likes making such individual observations when they go against such a strong collective delusion as this one.

    Look at the abuse I get here for questioning the sacred vaccinations. People would sooner lose their lives, their wealth and their freedom than to question the medical paradigm.

  60. Tel

    Australia lost 50,000 soldiers in ww1. This is much less of a crisis than that.

    Plus 15,000 (approx) deaths from Spanish Flu right afterwards.

    * They knew it was coming.
    * They were quick with quarantine and inspected all ships.
    * They setup quarantine camps.
    * They did close the schools.
    * They had a go at making a slightly useless vaccine.
    * It still killed a lot (not as many as the war, but comparable).

    Worth mentioning that back then it was Melbourne that let the side down … unlike today where it was Sydney that let the side down, but only after the Commonwealth had already given instructions not to bother trying.

  61. egg_

    With all the music clips doing the rounds, has anyone done My Corona to the tune of My Sharona?

    Struth, rabz &c. have penned a few ditties.

    “What about me?”
    “Workin’ for the man (from home)”
    Just to name a few.

  62. custard

    News Corps executive chairman Michael Miller announces free access to all our websites and apps for 4 weeks from Sunday to help keep Australians informed about coronavirus pandemic.

    Well done

  63. johanna

    QANTAS management cares deeply about transgender rights and racism. Their employees – not so much:

    Qantas has told some 20,000 employees that they will not be eligible for paid sick leave — leaving staff who may have been exposed to coronavirus in financial peril.

    But a Qantas spokesman said it wasn’t possible for employees to take sick leave from work when there was no work

    The airline’s move also means stripping sick-leave entitlements from staff who were already off work ill or injured.

    Qantas and Jetstar last week announced that two-thirds of their 30,000 employees will be temporarily stood down from late March until at least the end of May.

    Now, in a circular sent to employees, titled “Stand Down Detailed Q&A”, Qantas has told staff:

    “Sick/carer’s leave will not apply during any period of stand down, so you will continue to be stood down and will not be entitled to any sick/carer’s leave payments.”

    But, ‘we’re all in this together’ according to our Dear Leaders, none of whom are worse off in any way.

    Arseholes.

  64. egg_

    Australia lost 50,000 soldiers in ww1. This is much less of a crisis than that.

    Comparing apples and oranges.
    Spare me the grunt analysis.
    How would overseas troops fare if their Nation was bankrupted?
    I can see why JC gets the sh1ts with RSL acolytes.

  65. calli

    Just watched Gordian Fulder interviewed. He said people from the antarctic medico cruise were frightened and angry.

    Seriously?

    You guys took off on your junket and were stranded. Like so many others, who had far less information and knowledge than you. And then our government chartered a flight for you. But you’re angwy because you’re special.

    Buzz off to quarantine.

  66. Mater

    Plus 15,000 (approx) deaths from Spanish Flu right afterwards.

    Did they have the advantage of a demographic who seems largely unaffected by it?
    Did they have to consider the vulnerabilities of a modern economy/society?
    Did they have social media driving decisions?

    Direct comparisons have some value, but need to be tempered.

  67. DHS

    Plus 15,000 (approx) deaths from Spanish Flu right afterwards.

    They died because of a mass experimental vaccine program.

    That’s why it was the soldiers and young adults who were the hardest hit – soldiers and their contacts were the main targets of the vaccine program.

  68. calli

    And I note he and his colleagues have the right type of PPE face masks. How about that.

    My in-box this morning had a tutorial on making a mask from cloth in the stash. Strictly plebian ones, mind.

  69. egg_

    The airline’s move also means stripping sick-leave entitlements from staff who were already off work ill or injured.

    The toxic leprechaun is robbing his staff?
    Quelle surprise.
    Big operating overheads paid for by staff wages.

  70. Tel

    Qantas has told some 20,000 employees that they will not be eligible for paid sick leave — leaving staff who may have been exposed to coronavirus in financial peril.

    Leaving the company exposed to one heck of an ugly class action lawsuit.

    Fair Work Australia still leans somewhat in favour of the unions and no matter how you explain it, yanking out sick pay in the middle of a pandemic isn’t a good look. I don’t know about the actual legal details relevant to this case, but I know these public trials can often skip over a few legal details once the court of public opinion makes a ruling.

  71. calli

    I’d love to know if Rowe is getting his inspiration from Moran in the UK. That’s the second one this week with the same idea.

    Unless the Dark Side is communicating subliminally.

  72. miltonf

    Geez GingerMegs got bored of Canada pretty fast. So Trump’s not so bad after all.

  73. egg_

    the modern community has never had to decide whether to charge a Machine Gun post from the left, right or ‘up the guts’, knowing that some death awaits, in all three options.

    I recall on Blair’s one of our better posters, a US Soldier based in Germany IIRC, saying that in a situation such as the Port Arthur Massacre, where all hell has broken loose – YOU wouldn’t know what you would do next, let alone the next person.
    The current state of corona panic is a very similar situation.
    As others have observed, the worst of human behaviour can come out, taking advantage of a situation, such as looting.
    Psychopaths like Grigs would be salivating at the human misery.

  74. Crossie

    Another friend, a Chemical, Biological, Radiological and Nuclear Warfare specialist, told me that any (and all) modelling that’d done for Anthrax and the like, predicted this scenario to go on for around three years.

    Clearly locking up the country like this whilst the economy bleeds out (or atrophies) is not a solution.

    It’s obvious that you sequester the vulnerable, we know quite well who they are, and everyone else gets on with it. Some get the flu, go through it and recover and the virus is limited much sooner. Of course, social distancing helps in the limiting process.

    Killing the economy to kill a virus leaves us more vulnerable to all sorts of social, mental and political ills.

  75. egg_

    Was John McCain the fvckwit who fired his F4 Phantom’s missile aboard the USS Forrestal, where all command broke down and panic ensued?

  76. Crossie

    Qantas has told some 20,000 employees that they will not be eligible for paid sick leave — leaving staff who may have been exposed to coronavirus in financial peril.

    Leaving the company exposed to one heck of an ugly class action lawsuit.

    It seems Qantas employees have more in common with Israel Folau than their management.

  77. miltonf

    You really do get lucky sometimes- imagine if McCain or Romney had beat Obama. Just more RINO-Bush Washington War Machine shit and Clinton would probably be prez now.

  78. Zatara

    Was John McCain the fvckwit who fired his F4 Phantom’s missile aboard the USS Forrestal, where all command broke down and panic ensued?

    Nope. Nobody fired a missile.

    The Navy in its definitive report on the event—Manual of the Judge Advocate General Basic Final Investigative Report Concerning the Fire on Board the USS FORRESTAL (CVA-59)—concluded that a stray electrical signal ignited the motor of a Zuni rocket carried by an F-4B Phantom II on the starboard quarter and shot across the deck, striking the external fuel tank of a fully armed A-4E Skyhawk on the port.

  79. Crossie

    calli
    #3380320, posted on March 28, 2020 at 7:38 am
    And I note he and his colleagues have the right type of PPE face masks. How about that.

    My in-box this morning had a tutorial on making a mask from cloth in the stash. Strictly plebian ones, mind.

    Interesting floral designs for ladies and tartan perhaps for guys? All I’ve seen so far are the plain surgical ones and the sinister black ones.

  80. egg_

    a stray electrical signal ignited the motor of a Zuni rocket carried by an F-4B Phantom II

    I’ve read that crap.
    How many levels of safety are crossed to arm a missile accidentally?

    It’s the mayhem that ensued that I’m noting – crises.

  81. Mater

    I recall on Blair’s one of our better posters, a US Soldier based in Germany IIRC, saying that in a situation such as the Port Arthur Massacre, where all hell has broken loose – YOU wouldn’t know what you would do next, let alone the next person.

    I do egg. I carry out the instinctive Contact Drill (Run, Down, Crawl, Observe), as trained, then the considered decisions start. How do I know? Because I did it for real.

    But that’s kind of irrelevant. The decisions at the top can now be classed as ‘considered’. Much like the officers who planned the D Day invasion.

    The problem our politicians have is either:
    – They can’t face the reality that people are going to die either way, but one option has a forward momentum, or
    – They know the reality, but understand the problems with selling it to a pampered public who can’t face it.

  82. egg_

    McCain was accused of skylarking and “wet staring” the A4, causing a backfire.

  83. johanna

    calli
    #3380314, posted on March 28, 2020 at 7:35 am

    Just watched Gordian Fulder interviewed. He said people from the antarctic medico cruise were frightened and angry.

    Seriously?

    You guys took off on your junket and were stranded.

    Entitled, whiny gits who seem to imagine that because they have a medical qualification they are special.

    Well, yes, they are special, in that they of all people should have known the risks of their tax deductible pleasure cruise. But, they’d paid in advance, and were too greedy not to do it anyway (like someone who posts here).

    The medical profession, like so many other groups, has had its peak bodies taken over by tireless social activists who do not represent the membership, but who have a laser focus on taking over. Another example is the Australian Association of Scientists, whose senior management have no respect for science at all, but plenty of predictable opinions issued to the media on the issue du jour.

    Those actually toiling in the vineyards of medicine or science have neither the time or the inclination to get involved in professional politics.

  84. egg_

    I did it for real.

    You can argue that out with Grimmie.

    In your current line of work*, the “silent killer” of potential energy can snuff you out in milliseconds.

    *Owned by the Chi nese?

  85. calli

    Here’s one of the many patterns out there. I rather like the Hawaiian one.

  86. Mater

    *Owned by the Chi nese?

    Wrong on a number of counts.
    Work out your frustrations on someone else.

  87. Zatara

    Was John McCain the fvckwit who fired his F4 Phantom’s missile aboard the USS Forrestal, where all command broke down and panic ensued?

    McCain was an A-4 pilot, not an F-4 one.

    I suggest you read the report before you slander the ship and her crew again.

    Part Two

    Part Three

  88. Geriatric Mayfly

    Morning to the Cat News Service!
    Can anyone else in Yarragrad smell bushfire smoke?
    Anything going down??

    A lot of stubble burning at the moment. Or, with the Greens uncharacteristically silent of late, maybe there is some controlled forest burning underway as well.

  89. Crossie

    Another example is the Australian Association of Scientists, whose senior management have no respect for science at all, but plenty of predictable opinions issued to the media on the issue du jour.

    Those actually toiling in the vineyards of medicine or science have neither the time or the inclination to get involved in professional politics.

    Good leadership is essential but when it’s exhibited it derided by those who lack it. Example Trump who must be destroyed so as not to endanger the cowards’ cushy positions.

  90. bespoke

    Paper/cloth masks are only good for protecting other people getting it.

  91. Crossie

    calli
    #3380343, posted on March 28, 2020 at 8:08 am
    Here’s one of the many patterns out there. I rather like the Hawaiian one.

    Possibilities are endless.

  92. calli

    Heheh. Virginia doing it tough in the ‘burbs

    But now I’m nervous about whether I can be my best self in isolation with my family, not go stir crazy and provide all the strength, love and nurturing that everyone here is going to need to different degrees and in different ways through several long months. Yikes. Is anyone capable of that?

    When I tremulously asked my husband some time ago if we were going to get through this he turned to me and said firmly that this would be the making of us. I could have burst into tears with gratitude.

    Today he’s as tired and frazzled as I am, after a week of constant COVID-19 reporting, with no Easter escape to which we can look forward, and it all seems too hard.

    I hear the wail of distant sirens. The bombs will be dropping soon. Over and out.

  93. notafan

    If staff are stood down ie not being paid and the company has massively reduced income how can not being entitled to access sick leave be unreasonable?

    Qantas, unlike the Australian government, doesn’t have access to a magic pudding.

  94. calli

    Yes, bespoke. The patternmakers emphasised that.

  95. Herodotus

    News Corps executive chairman Michael Miller announces free access to all our websites and apps for 4 weeks from Sunday to help keep Australians informed about coronavirus pandemic.
    Why not from Saturday!?
    Foxtel have added a group of extras for free, available immediately and good until 31 May.

  96. Anne

    What happens to a $23 Trillion debt when the Federal Reserve is destroyed and the Rothschilds arrested?

  97. notafan

    Tripoli.

    Laughable.

    It’s just like being in Italy in 1943 but harder.

    Staying home in the burbs is a doddle, unless you are a self indulgent moron.

    A pity there isn’t a version of the cow pox we could get.

    I’m almost hoping my nurse aquaintance has the poohflu, because we spent a couple of hours together about ten days ago and she might have shared.

  98. notafan

    What still no arrests?

    Lucky I didn’t hold my breath.

    Still waiting on those indictments.

    Anne aren’t you just sick of it just not happening?

  99. Anne

    Rejoice.

    The Fed is Dead!

  100. Tel

    News Corps executive chairman Michael Miller announces free access to all our websites and apps for 4 weeks from Sunday to help keep Australians informed about coronavirus pandemic.

    Let’s hope that the WHO do the decent thing and shut down their own website … in order to help keep Australians better informed about coronavirus pandemic.

  101. Geriatric Mayfly

    Well, yes, they are special, in that they of all people should have known the risks of their tax deductible pleasure cruise. But, they’d paid in advance, and were too greedy not to do it anyway (

    Late winter conferences in Colorado also appear to improve the practice of medicine. Did this mob dock in Port Aspen by any chance?

  102. notafan

    Every one that went cruising after January had paid for it in advance and were too greedy not to do it anyway.

    Some have paid very dearly for their decisions

  103. calli

    Ahahahah!

    The ABC goes there.

    Coronavirus crisis elicits fresh look at the future of diseases, medicine and climate change

    And then

    The experts consulted for this article were unanimous: there is no indication coronavirus has been directly connected to climate change.

    Why that headline, blockheads?

  104. lotocoti

    a stray electrical signal ignited the motor of a Zuni rocket carried by an F-4B Phantom II

    RADHAZ/HERO
    Everyone was still coming to grips with the potential hazards of electromagnetic radiation on ordnance.

  105. DHS

    Bill Sardi has a great article on lewrockwell.com about South Korea’s experience in 2015.

    They learnt that the moment the public started to panic about a virus then the economy would quickly face ruin.

    We should have shared their lesson.

    The government should use its emergency powers to jail every journalist or twitterati who stokes fear of contagious disease.

  106. notafan

    Looking at the fresh days statistics, the burbs couldn’t be better, Virginia.

    Cheek by jowl densely populated apartment countries like France, Italy and Spain continue to get decimated.

    The US states of New York and New Jersey catching up as fast as they can.

  107. MatrixTransform

    Melbourne, glorious autumn weather for the apocalypse

  108. Eyrie

    I hope a couple of million Queenslanders flick Plastic Chook and the Trad thing the bird and stay home instead of voting in the useless local government elections. Don’t be sheep people. Tell ’em, fuck ’em.

  109. Farmer Gez

    calli
    #3380351, posted on March 28, 2020 at 8:22 am
    Heheh. Virginia doing it tough in the ‘burbs

    Thanks for the link Calli but I couldn’t finish the article as tears of pity filled my eyes. Let’s all hope Virginia’s parmigiano cheese stocks hold out.
    The ABC luvvie left, always irrelevant in times of trouble.
    Next week: Virginia learns how to use the washing machine.

  110. Anne

    @BardsOfWar
    My Fellow Americans…

    In a single move today at 4: 31PM ET @POTUS FREED the world from Rothschilds control. The UNITED STATES now controls ALL Central bank requests for Credit for all 186 Foreign Nations.

    Q3904
    This is not another [4] year election.
    Q
    twitter.com/Ir0nbelly/stat…

  111. Tel

    I hope a couple of million Queenslanders flick Plastic Chook and the Trad thing the bird and stay home instead of voting in the useless local government elections. Don’t be sheep people. Tell ’em, fuck ’em.

    A handful of Labor voters should be able to make up the numbers relatively easily.

  112. Megan

    More new threads than viruses. Winners!

  113. Anne

    What a time to be alive!!!

    THE FED IS DEAD.

    The “beast” died of Corona Virus. US Treasury just completed its hostile takeover of Satan’s bank.

    H/T @3days3nights

  114. johanna

    calli
    #3380351, posted on March 28, 2020 at 8:22 am

    Heheh. Virginia doing it tough in the ‘burbs

    But now I’m nervous about whether I can be my best self in isolation with my family, not go stir crazy and provide all the strength, love and nurturing that everyone here is going to need to different degrees and in different ways through several long months. Yikes. Is anyone capable of that?

    When I tremulously asked my husband some time ago if we were going to get through this he turned to me and said firmly that this would be the making of us. I could have burst into tears with gratitude.

    Today he’s as tired and frazzled as I am, after a week of constant COVID-19 reporting, with no Easter escape to which we can look forward, and it all seems too hard.

    I hear the wail of distant sirens. The bombs will be dropping soon. Over and out.

    This is great stuff. Ordinary Australians can see what a bunch of self indulgent, narcissistic, weak aristos those who tell us what to think really are.

    Trioli is on full pay. Having to interact with her family is apparently more than a koala can bear.

    FMD. Does she give a thought to the hairdresser who has closed the doors for good, as Elvis mentioned last night? The countless small businesses hanging by a thread? The old people dying without family, whose family are not even allowed to go to the funeral?

    What a callous, self-absorbed bitch.

  115. Tel

    US Treasury just completed its hostile takeover of Satan’s bank.

    Those two have been working together since day one.

    Now I know you are only here for the sport.

  116. Leigh Lowe

    Tailgunner

    #3380284, posted on March 28, 2020 at 6:28 am

    Morning to the Cat News Service!
    Can anyone else in Yarragrad smell bushfire smoke?
    Anything going down??

    Anne explained earlier.
    It is the secret crematorium.

  117. Megan

    They learnt that the moment the public started to panic about a virus then the economy would quickly face ruin.

    We should have shared their lesson.

    My corporate experience has been than even mentioning such lessons gets you a reputation as a worry wart or negative Nancy. Until the shit hits the fan and they wonder how you knew what would happen. I’m only guessing but I suspect this effect is exponentially worse amongst politicians. In bureaucrats it is included in their startup software.
    Arky clearly demonstrated this point back in January. It’s hard being a visionary. And lonely.

  118. jupes

    But now I’m nervous about whether I can be my best self in isolation with my family, not go stir crazy and provide all the strength, love and nurturing that everyone here is going to need to different degrees and in different ways through several long months. Yikes. Is anyone capable of that?

    Wow. She actually wrote that.

  119. Geriatric Mayfly

    Heheh. Virginia doing it tough in the ‘burbs

    Search and rescue called out. Virginia, in scouring the land for scented sanitiser, sends urgent text from beyond the goat cheese curtain.

  120. Anne

    Meet the new head of the Federal Reserve – Donald J. Trump. 😀

    Slaves no more!

  121. jupes

    Bad news from Italy. 919 dead over the last 24 hours.

    I thought they had plateaued, but apparently not. Last seven days (100s) 7,6,6,7,6,7 now 9.

  122. struth

    Good moaning students.
    The year we look at this morning for history is way back in inthe year 2020.
    The western world had for many years been able to insulate their later generations from the harsh realities of the world and had become insulated and weak.
    Some of them even thought that there were more than two sexes and that they themselves were responsible for the climate.
    As life got easier religion was lost and all crazy theories pushed forward by many who had too much spare time on their hands flourished.
    Death was segregated away from the great majority of the living to come nearly as a shock to many as they faced it.
    Governments grew strong and corrupt disarming a population too removed from reality to care.
    Iindeed many called for it.
    The evil found throughout human existence of slave ownership for the wealth creation of the few was to still be found in socialism and communism.
    Competition and working for themselves was an anathema to them.
    Socialist slavers had been building their power using the stolen wealth of others and built massive global forces and corruption was rife.
    They corrupted western politicians and their great halls of learning , they stole the wealth of the west and contolled more of it every day.
    The media world wide was bought and paid for and even where it wasn’t, the halls of learning had already corrupted every young journalist’s mind..
    Many westerners could see much of this and were sickened by the lies they were constantly being told from above.
    Then in 2016 a man who could not be bought by these forces and pledged to fight them was voted American president in a landslide victory.
    From that time those evil world forces went to war on him but he understood precisely what I had made the west so successful in the first place and was winning against them.
    So in 2020 before his near assured re election they struck using a virus no more fatal than the common flu as the emergency they needed to seize control by force.
    They moved quickly against their stunned populations and…………………….we leave it there for the next chapter we will read in the future.

  123. Des Deskperson

    Channel Ten is running a series of ‘public service’ ads featuring smarmy bogan princess Lisa Wilkinson telling us to wash out hands for at lest 20 seconds. to help avoid Covid 19.

    Lisa helpfully informs us that if we sing ‘happy birthday to you’ whilst washing, its the equivalent of 20 seconds.

    What a simpering, patronising bint. I wonder if she is getting paid.

    In the meantime, the ABC is telling us that world-wide deaths from Covid 19 have topped 25,000. That’s almost exactly the same average number of world-wide death from malaria even three weeks.

  124. Megan

    My local library seems to know something we don’t. My current loans have been automatically extended until 20th June.

  125. Tel

    Arky clearly demonstrated this point back in January. It’s hard being a visionary. And lonely.

    We laughed at his model A but when Australia is reduced to making our own spare parts … by hand … in a blacksmith shop … then the model A will still be as maintainable as ever. With a modern car it’s all tightly sealed and none of the parts are fixable.

  126. A lot of stubble burning at the moment

    Thanks, GM!

  127. miltonf

    John Howard really would have one better to go after the ABC instead of the CES.

  128. Tel

    Channel Ten is running a series of ‘public service’ ads featuring smarmy bogan princess Lisa Wilkinson telling us to wash out hands for at lest 20 seconds. to help avoid Covid 19.

    What I have discovered is there are no hand basins in the supermarket car park.

    I tried reeling out the hot water hose from my bathroom as I went carrying the bar of soap in my pocket but turns out that’s kind of inconvenient.

    If only there were some of those PORTABLE alcohol products available. Yes I did buy some before the shit hit the fan, so I do have some, but I rather suspect most people don’t have them and given that we have no idea when they are next available, most people are using them to the minimal extent at a time they should be using them often.

    Besides, if washing hands is the issue here … why do we have people all standing a long distance from one another? Stretching out the line at the supermarket isn’t going to make a bean of difference if everyone is still sharing the trolly handle and no alcohol wipes are available.

  129. Anne

    Joe M

    Patriots have bankrupted the Federal Reserve and absorbed its function into the United States Treasury! The cause of all wars, famine and economic collapse for the past 100 years has been dissolved, and the people have RECLAIMED the money system. CONGRATULATIONS HUMANITY!🇺🇸⛈

    @StormIsUponUs

  130. Thank you Des for that important announcement. Lisa Wilkinson can take a long walk off a short pier. Of course she will be getting paid. Along with Curtis Stone or whoever that chef is on the Coles ad.
    It’s my birthday today so feel free to strew rose petals at my feet and cyber shout a Carlton Draught.

  131. Boambee John

    But now I’m nervous about whether I can be my best self in isolation with my family, not go stir crazy and provide all the strength, love and nurturing that everyone here is going to need to different degrees and in different ways through several long months.

    Sorty Virginia, even when you are out in the unreal world of Your ABC, you seem to be far from what might be your best self. The real question is whether your family can provide “the strength, love and nurturing” that you so clearly need.

  132. MatrixTransform

    It’s hard being a visionary. And lonely.

    yep.
    At the present time, thanks in large part to 5 years of my paranoid chicken-little style guidance, our biz is in better shape that many

    I kinda get tired of being right.

  133. Tom

    Meet the new head of the Federal Reserve – Donald J. Trump. 😀

    I used to worry that the Cat wasn’t seen as a serious website because of all the conspiracy theory loonies hanging off the edges.

    But it’s the only place I know of where you can post pretty much anything that isn’t illegal. You know — freedom of speech. Not much of it about these days — especially in Australia.

    Pedal harder, Annie. Can’t wait for the live pictures from inside Hell as the Trumpenator slays Lucifer.

  134. calli

    The Beloved is not using a trolley any more. He’s popping the groceries in the (now) scrupulously cleaned rigid sided re-use supermarket bags and carrying them around the store. The handles are touched by him alone. He then packs the groceries once through the scanner. Pays by swipe and leaves for the car. Once in the car, he wipes his hands, the steering wheel, gearstick, brake and start button.

    Problem – the checkout chick has touched the groceries (but she has been using hand wipes and disinfects the workspace constantly). Before that, the shelf-packer – who may, or may not be wearing gloves. So the groceries may already have virus on them. Aaaand, I watched an old bird going over and over packaged bread the other day, touching several packs – goodness knows why.

    Trying to keep a clean, closed loop is almost impossible.

  135. johanna

    Happy bifde BB! Many more!

    Farmer Gez
    #3380042, posted on March 27, 2020 at 10:51 pm

    NZ Agriculture Minister Damien O’Connor (Labour) addressing farmers.

    “We are allowed to continue operating because it’s been deemed that we are critical to providing the necessities of life for everyone in New Zealand – that being food.”

    Someone in Wellington ‘deemed’ food production is necessary. O’Connor said farmers were lucky they could work. So many fuckwits so few spaceships to the sun.

    A lot of our Dear Leaders seem to have dropped a tab and lighted a spliff and listened to this:

  136. Eyrie

    “A handful of Labor voters should be able to make up the numbers relatively easily.”
    Won’t make any difference, Tel. Maybe just a slightly different bunch of corrupt crooks.

  137. miltonf

    Lisa Wilkinson can take a long walk off a short pier.
    Love it.

    Happy birthday too BB.

  138. cohenite

    Mater
    #3380286, posted on March 28, 2020 at 6:40 am

    Excellent post. Send it to a few pollies. Just for a laugh.

  139. Alex Davidson

    I see that according to the Australian Health Department summary, the daily number of new cases appears to be falling markedly. The only mention of this I could find from a brief scan of the mainstream news sites was on the ABC, where they acknowledged the fall, but had a different set of numbers which they somehow compiled themselves, showing a much slower decline.

    Of course it might be due to delays in reporting, or dodgy figures…

  140. MatrixTransform

    they struck using a virus no more fatal than the common flu

    agree with the rest … just not so sure as you about this bit

    time will tell

  141. miltonf

    People like Wilkinson make me think that television was a terrible invention.

  142. Nick

    Channel Ten is running a series of ‘public service’ ads featuring smarmy bogan princess Lisa Wilkinson telling us to wash out hands for at lest 20 seconds. to help avoid Covid 19.

    She can dry them on her husbands’ head rag

  143. bespoke

    # 1735099 has been busted for plagiarism and altering KD’s comment in just in last few days.

    ## And not for the first time either.

  144. feelthebern

    I don’t understand this Fed Reserve, Treasury news.
    & I’ve been reading about it for an hour.

  145. Mater

    Bugger Mater’s pseudo-macho military analogies.
    They’re irrelevant.

    I’m sure turning this country in to a burning crater is more conducive to rebuilding it in your ideal (anti-capitalist) image.

    BTW I’m immuno-compromised but I’m not huddled in the corner rocking back and forth, fanning the flames, whilst my country is razed to the ground.

  146. miltonf

    You can see why they called it the idiot box.

  147. feelthebern

    Latham’s twitter comments this morning are troubling.

  148. Entropy

    Mrs entropy just got back from Coles. Complaining that the check out chicks can’t touch the customers bags and thus load groceries due to contamination risk. Chaos ensures, lengthening time at check out in close proximity to the poor girl.

    The obvious solution is to bring back the single use plastic bags.

  149. 1735099

    ##and not for the first time either.

    Bespoke has body odour.
    Don’t tell anyone….

  150. feelthebern

    In Germany you pack your own bags at the supermarket.

  151. Happy Birthday,BB!
    I expect you in here and on fire at around 6pm thanks!
    #Drunknblogging

  152. MatrixTransform

    It’s my birthday today so feel free to strew rose petals at my feet and cyber shout a Carlton Draught.

    🎱 🎈🎈 🥂🥃🥃🥃 🧻🏉 🎈🎈 🎱

    there are 3 Aries in my lot … including the missus

  153. feelthebern

    TG, how are the Melbourne ladies during this crisis?
    Have you adapted?

  154. 1735099

    Send it to a few pollutes. Just for a laugh.

    Good idea.
    They could probably do with a bit of comedy right now.

  155. Entropy

    Megan
    #3380393, posted on March 28, 2020 at 9:01 am
    My local library seems to know something we don’t. My current loans have been automatically extended until 20th June

    There is a scenario where current level2 lasts until October.

  156. calli

    Real Mark Latham
    @RealMarkLatham
    ·
    22m
    The NSW Bar Association is asking the State Government for rent relief on chambers for its 2400 members.
    Wow. Simply wow.
    The entitled leeches in our society have really come to the surface in this crisis.

    Oh yes.

  157. Boambee John

    Bespoke has body odour.
    Don’t tell anyone….

    Seagulls crap everywhere.

    No need to tell anyone, everyone already knows.

  158. feelthebern

    Not that tweet Calli.
    The one about super.

  159. That will occur Tailgunner. 😂
    Matrix yes quite a lot of my friends have birthday cheer in March. Of course the winter months would have something to do with this!

  160. johanna

    I just watched a Fox show where the resident doctor explained how his family now wash every grocery product before putting it in the cupboard.

    Ludicrous. You would think we were talking about the Plague, not a flu-ish virus that the vast majority of people survive, if they even knew they had it at all.

    As I have said from the beginning, there is a difference between sensible precautions and, as a writer at American Thinker put it, letting the immunocompromised rule the world.

    It has been a revelation to watch our politicians flail around, not knowing who to believe or what to do, because none of them has a firm moral compass or set of values. They are just soft pillows, taking the impression of whoever last sat there.

    More importantly, their first allegiance is to their funders and pressure groups, which is why they were so slow to do anything about thousands of potential carriers entering the country. Now we, innocent residents, have to pay.

    I don’t know whether the corona virus is less or more dangerous than the annual flu. What I do know is that the political class has trashed the economy and tens (at least) of thousands of people’s lives, with not even a cutback on their entertainment allowances.

  161. calli

    Saw that one too, bern.

    Real Mark Latham
    @RealMarkLatham
    ·
    1h
    Many will never see another Federal budget surplus in our lifetime, leaving Australia completely exposed to future economic shocks.
    Raises the question: why isn’t greater use being made of $3 trillion in Aust super assets to save the economy, and the fact RBA is printing money?

    Let the plunder begin!

  162. Struth

    Alex Davidson let me look into my crystal b a l l s and see the hairy future.

    The virus will be seen as finally under control, they’ll relieve restrictions, or pretend they are about to, and then pow, there will be an explosion of fear as someone was heard to cough in Plympton SA, and for the best we will be under government yolk again.
    Buying Australia is not what the Chinese are after.
    Giving away business to them is what they require.

    Take over by belt and road, corruption and shutdown, either way we are at war.
    We are now not to go to the pub, have a meal, see friends or have a job, by order of the Chinese.
    So they get their spokepeople to give the orders here.
    Little rat and bat eaters who burn dogs alive now have you sitting on your arses unemployed.
    People who slurp their live rat pups down with the bowl up to their gobs and cough up their virus infected fur b a l l s.

  163. It’s all quiet on the ladies front.
    I’m just working hard and keeping the rotation spinning slowly.
    Online dating is ded for the duration.

  164. MatrixTransform

    and the fact RBA is printing money?

    if it wasn’t plastic you could hoard it for when you run outta TP

  165. Struth

    But at least Australia got to buy cheap shit, who cares if it was from Criminals.

    Well now the criminals are collecting.

  166. Nick

    Bugger Mater’s pseudo-macho military analogies.
    They’re irrelevant.

    Why? Mater adds an informed perspective.

  167. Calli, I may as well withdraw my super fund now. I understand that it will be worth Zimbabwe dollars in the near future, but the point stands.

  168. notafan

    Applying the same criteria to test people for poohflu.

    Racism!

    That being said I have no doubt the border lock downs in WA and the NT are because state governments are terrified of the likely death rates in remote communities.

    Italy will pale into insignificance.

    #justaflu

    Hat tip Latham

    more racism

  169. MatrixTransform

    great!
    somebody asked theTard a direct question instead of a rhetorical one.

    now the pidgeon is gonna Pidgeon

  170. Nick

    22m
    The NSW Bar Association is asking the State Government for rent relief on chambers for its 2400 members.

    Lol. I can’t wait for the next underclass, medical specialists, to whine about the need for financial assistance. Perhaps the Smith Family should so a campaign.

  171. Caveman

    It’s hard being a visionary. And lonely.

    I just got a feeling some bad shits gonna happen somewhere sometime.

  172. MatrixTransform

    Who is is the VikGov spokes-wonk giving a live talk on the missus’ computer?

    Wants to preserve the ‘business architecture’ … wtf?

    they’re already building a Potemkin Village

  173. mh

    Qld votes today in local elections.

    Should be plenty of crowds and locals mingling.

    They better have a sausage sizzle!

  174. Struth

    That being said I have no doubt the border lock downs in WA and the NT are because state governments are terrified of the likely death rates in remote communities.

    The death rates have been shocking in abo communities for years.
    Hasn’t bothered the government for fifty years.
    In fact, they have caused it by sticking blackfellas in these socialist welfare hell holes.

    Amazing the level of concern one can have when it can get you totalitarian control for pretending to have it.

    Have you ever seen government move this quick in all your lives, folks?
    And when they do, they move illegally and against the rule of law in many cases.
    Yet not one dam could be signed off on, not one power station, not one tree trimmed in your neighborhood without consultative paid in millions, advice and meetings with stakeholders that could last in some cases over fifty years.

    Adani, anyone.

    Please, please, wake up to what this is really all about.

    If you are not exploding with rage against your government masters now, your are a fucking imbicile.

  175. bespoke

    They could probably do with a bit of comedy right now.

  176. Megan

    Bespoke at 7.04am.

    I’m not a fan of excessive work socialising for exactly the reasons you describe. My interest was around the effectiveness of casual knowledge exchange in the work environment and how the various trust networks operated within that space. Casual contact in the kitchen between two members of different departments beat Death By Meeting every single time.

  177. woolfe

    So far only 7 countries have had more Virus deaths than Chicago had homicides last year.

  178. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Second company sent ‘90 tonnes’ of Australian medical supplies to China
    Exclusive video shows surgical masks at Perth airport being airfreighted to China last month during the peak of the country’s outbreak.

  179. Megan

    Happy Birdie, BB! May there be many more that don’t involve quarantine and lack of TP. 🍾🥂

  180. calli

    It’s perfectly SFW, BB. I picked that particular version because Spidey looks like a black ball.

    Would I lie to you? 😁

  181. mh

    The timeline of the Morrison government actions re COVID-19 is telling.

    1. Pretend you are securing the borders
    2. Announce bonuses for welfare recipients
    3. Cancel sport
    4. Cancel entertainment
    5. Cancel beaches
    6. Announce more welfare payments
    7. Cancel more private enterprise
    8. Announce the borders really will be secured. This time. Promise.

  182. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    The obvious solution is to bring back the single use plastic bags.

    keep your chicom virus bags in circulation. wasn’t that fantastic idea

  183. Mater

    In better news, it’s predicted that the road toll and workplace accidents will be down in 2020.
    Bonuses aplenty at VicRoads and Worksafe.

  184. miltonf

    Can anyone here tell me, what happens if you lose your job and withdraw your super and then find another job, are your still able to keep the dosh?

  185. rickw

    Pretend you are securing the borders

    Not only was this horrifically late, it was practically NOT DONE.

    Australia “closing its borders” was pure propaganda.

  186. johanna

    The lie that paying into super funds is going to look after you in retirement should be exposed. I encourage everyone who can to take the money and run.

    There are exceptions – public sector funds (although the later ones are not much good) and of course judges.

    As an aside, when the first round of privatising Telstra was happening, a big issue was what was going to happen to the vast liabilities in their very generous super fund. What happened was that a new fund was created for new employees, less generous and more in line with everybody else. But the old employees were grandfathered.

    I don’t know how that played out in the accounts. But, you had a situation where the Finance Director, on about $900k a year, was still able to pay into his super account and afterwards retire on the proceeds.

    The TURC revealed just some of the corruption surrounding the superannuation industry.

    If you can – take the money! I used my payout to pay my home loan, saving me thousands in interest.

  187. Struth

    I am 53, now slightly overweight, would like to drop off about ten kilos and come from a long line of male heart disease and early death in the family, and am on blood pressure and cholesterol tablets.
    I smoked like a train for years, giving up when I was about forty.
    Took drugs to stay awake in the early years of my life to work harder.
    According to some I should be shitting myself.
    The virus I have no fear of.
    I certainly fear dying of it in a totalitarian shit hole without fighting the totalitarians.
    Someone said here that our Anzacs sacrificed their lives for our freedom, and yet now we sacrifice our freedom for our lives.
    Lives that are not really under anymore threat than they were last year.
    Insanity.

  188. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    keep your chicom virus bags in circulation. wasn’t that fantastic idea

    make sure you stuff them full of universal passport trade deficit yellow dollars…

  189. 1735099

    Why? Mater adds an informed perspective.

    He sees everything as a contact drill.
    The only contacts I experienced ended in death, injury, recriminations and despair.
    That’s the real world.

  190. Mater

    Someone said here that our Anzacs sacrificed their lives for our freedom, and yet now we sacrifice our freedom for our lives.
    Lives that are not really under anymore threat than they were last year.

    Yeah Struth, that was me. But you should ignore me, I’m pseudo-macho.

  191. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    The lie that paying into super funds is going to look after you in retirement should be exposed. I encourage everyone who can to take the money and run.

    when they first introduced compulsory super I said how many major market crashes is the average super going to have to survive. what a joke… on us

  192. johanna

    miltonf
    #3380479, posted on March 28, 2020 at 10:08 am

    Can anyone here tell me, what happens if you lose your job and withdraw your super and then find another job, are your still able to keep the dosh?

    Posession is nine points of the law, milton.

    Good luck for them trying to get it back. Especially if it has disappeared. 🙂

  193. miltonf

    Gotcha. Thanks Johanna.

  194. bespoke

    The only contacts I experienced ended in death, injury, recriminations and despair.
    That’s the real world.–1735099

    Grim reaper.

  195. mh

    BoJo has kung flu

    Thanks, scoop.

  196. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    looks like from the state stats that QLD and VIC growth is slowing, unlike NSW which is still on a tear

  197. Mater

    He sees everything as a contact drill.
    The only contacts I experienced ended in death, injury, recriminations and despair.
    That’s the real world.

    You are one seriously fucked up, delusional liar.
    As for me seeing everything through a specific lens, self awareness much?
    Have a look at your blog and travel. Predominantly military oriented. Strange for someone who resisted it so hard and is so bitter about it.
    You spent two years in, Bob. You’re a fucking lid who regularly chimes in about military matters and is, more often than not, proven wrong.

  198. woolfe

    Miltonf you can get $10g this tax year (up to june 30 2020) and $10g next tax year. Its your money.

  199. Struth

    We are at war with the Chinese, we should at least put Xiansheng before Slo Mo.
    Xiansheng Slo Mo
    Tai tai Julie Bitchop.

  200. rickw

    Second company sent ‘90 tonnes’ of Australian medical supplies to China
    Exclusive video shows surgical masks at Perth airport being airfreighted to China last month during the peak of the country’s outbreak.

    I just posted this on WeChat, interesting to see how long it lasts!

  201. rickw

    looks like from the state stats that QLD and VIC growth is slowing, unlike NSW which is still on a tear

    Cruise ship booster shots doing their job.

  202. Struth

    Yeah Struth, that was me. But you should ignore me, I’m pseudo-macho.

    You’re right.
    I wouldn’t care if you are Pseudo Echo.

  203. MatrixTransform

    wankers created a run on Super Funds.

    spectacular management

    we’re all this together 🎵

  204. Infidel Tiger

    Still they refuse to die, so we continue to import them.

  205. Struth

    Well I lie.
    I would hope you are not Pseudo Echo.

  206. johanna

    am on blood pressure and cholesterol tablets.

    Piss off the cholesterol tablets. You will feel better straightaway.

    The cholesterol myth is now so embarrassing, the last few (young) doctors I have encountered have not even raised it when my blood tests came back. Yep, my cholesterol level is more than that of an Olympic athlete. Yes, most people’s cholesterol level increases slightly as they get older. Nope, there is no reason to assume that it is a bad thing.

    They got so desperate to defend the indefensible, they invented ‘good’ and ‘bad’ cholesterol

    As I have said here before, these pseudo scientists deprived my Dad of his beloved breakfast egg for decades. A pox on them.

  207. OldOzzie

    Thanks Tom,

    as a Snoopy Fan – Steve Kelley for me today

    but

    A.F. Branco very good as well

  208. Gab

    I see that according to the Australian Health Department summary, the daily number of new cases appears to be falling markedly.

    Interesting to see that the highest number of cases are in the 20-29 years age bracket.

  209. 1735099

    So bitter about it

    Not bitter – grateful.
    The experience has informed me about the reality of fear, ignorance, xenophobia, and how it’s used by the Right to seek and hold power.

    Delusional liar

    I’m telling the truth.
    The contacts I saw culminated in injury, death and recrimination.
    Especially the one when we were cleaned up by our own people.
    The “delusional” label is best applied to those who committed us to a civil war on foreign soil in peacetime, and tried to sell it to us as a defence against Communist aggression.
    History exposed them, but they did enormous damage to a generation, and many veterans and their families are still paying for it.
    I’m not bitter – just lucky and grateful.

  210. bespoke

    For those that don’t watch the Simpsons. Sides Show Bob was also a Sociopath.

    A sociopath can be defined as a person who has Antisocial Personality Disorder. This disorder is characterized by a disregard for the feelings of others, a lack of remorse or shame, manipulative behavior, unchecked egocentricity, and the ability to lie in order to achieve one’s goals. Sociopaths can be dangerous at worst or simply very difficult to deal with, and it’s important to know if you have found yourself with a sociopath, whether it’s someone you’re dating or an impossible coworker. If you want to know how to spot a sociopath, then you have to pay careful attention to what the person says or does

    They also predicted Trumps win. Just saying 😎

  211. Roger

    Exclusive video shows surgical masks at Perth airport being airfreighted to China last month during the peak of the country’s outbreak.

    Qld Health appears to be out of masks and hand sanitiser is in short supply.

  212. Ed Case

    Miltonf you can get $10g this tax year (up to june 30 2020) and $10g next tax year. Its your money.

    Being foregone National Wage Case pay rises, it always was.
    Where’s all the overtime, sick pay, holiday pay + loading that you would have got if you’d been paid that extra 9.5% in your pay packet the last 28 years? Plus the interest you miss out on when the Payer takes 3 to 6 months to forward the 9.5% on to the Fund?

  213. Confused Old Misfit

    Gordon Brown says world leaders should create temporary global government

    Former British prime minister Gordon Brown has urged world leaders to create a temporary form of global government to tackle the twin medical and economic crises caused by the Covid-19 pandemic.

    Did I not say that this was the objective?

  214. Dr Faustus

    An Expert opines:

    Public health expert Gerard Fitzgerald from the Queensland University of Technology said if Australia moved to a stage three shutdown it would send a clear message to Australians to stay home.

    “Closing down non-essential shops and services won’t necessarily provide us with greater protection against the virus but it will help reiterate the message about social distancing,” Dr Fitzgerald said.

    So would randomly shooting family dogs belonging to former cafe owners and other non-essential persons.

    We might be short bogroll, but still plenty of experts to go around.

  215. Old School Conservative

    Numbers, some advice please.
    I have been conscripted into a war against the Chinese Flu that I don’t want to fight. My government is wrong.
    How long should I hold on to my bitterness?

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