Open Forum: March 28, 2020

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  1. cohenite

    Fisk, more than one commentor agrees with this policy for Muslims at the cat. Ask Cronkite for instance.

    What’s your position head prefect.

  2. cohenite

    FMD, I quote head prefect who uses the m word and I get put in moderation.

    Let’s try again:

    Fisk, more than one commentor agrees with this policy for RoP at the cat. Ask Cronkite for instance.

    What’s your position head prefect. We know you’re a fan of both the chunks the RoP.

  3. calli

    Bother. I go out to Pest Oil the citrus and another smiting.

    Why does it always happen when I’m out a-smitin’?

  4. egg_

    Look for some preemptive arse covering manoeuvres and back tracking to occur soon as a measure of self awareness.

    He’s on 4Corners on Monday night – toning down the rhetoric?
    Helpful advice vs scaremongering?

  5. Nick

    Thirty-three doctors who ignored quarantine orders after arriving in Sydney from a cruise in Chile likely won’t be punished because of a legal loophole

    They have powerful friends and aren’t a car full of Lebs or a group of Abbos who’ve had a beer or two.

  6. calli

    because of a legal loophole

    They’re doctors. They have the negatives.

  7. Harlequin Decline

    Went past a Bunnings early this afternoon. The queue was out the door and down the street. Apparently yesterday it became a bit crowded in there and today they have decided to limit the numbers in the store.

  8. Sean

    My doomsday predictor model for global case outcomes in the next 5 days:

    29/3 – 3936 deaths
    30/3 – 4361 deaths
    31/3 – 5474 deaths
    1/4 – 5805 deaths
    2/4 – 6008 deaths

    Most of that to be in the Spain, Italy and the US

  9. Bruce of Newcastle

    In contrast, we do not find that specific humidity or precipitation influence transmission.

    But…

    Increased indoor humidity may decrease #Coronavirus #COVID-19 transmission (28 Mar)

    Bullet points:
    – COVID-19 spreads mostly indoors by person to person and person to surface to person transmission
    – Increasing humidity indoors to 50%-60% is a safe and promising method to fight COVID-19 spread

    JC – I suspect the guys in the study you quote are talking about outdoor humidity, which makes sense since most transmissions are indoor – and indoor humidity will depend on people breathing and air conditioners and etc.

  10. JC

    Cronkers

    The moderation filter possibly just doesn’t like you. Nothing personal 🙂

    I wasn’t taking a clear easy shot at you. I was simply making the observation that you wouldn’t have an issue with the way the Chinese regime is dealing with its own mz problem, that’s all. There’s no reason to get upset, so just calm down you idiot. I’m just speaking truth to power.

  11. egg_

    Thirty-three doctors who ignored quarantine orders after arriving in Sydney from a cruise in Chile likely won’t be punished because of a legal loophole

    I can see the pikes a sharpening.

  12. Dr Faustus

    Gordian Fulde, Doctor to the Nation

    Sounds like an 18th century ailment.
    Despite being bled by the physik, Sir Richard expired in the grip of a gordian fulde.

  13. Arky

    JC.
    Is there such a thing as a US coal ETF?

  14. Old Ozzie:

    Negligence law is not hard to understand. It holds that anyone knowingly or negligently causing harm is liable. China caused this harm, and it was reasonably foreseeable that many people would get sick and die as a result of China’s disinformation campaign. As such, the U.S. and governments around the world should bail out their workers and their economies and send China the bill.

    I was suggesting this here on the Cat two weeks ago, but I was also suggesting China be sent to Coventry – kicked out of the UN and all its constituent organs like the WHO, the Security Council, etc.
    They MUST be punished, or they will do this again.

  15. calli

    Harlequin Decline
    #3382780, posted on March 29, 2020 at 4:34 pm
    Went past a Bunnings early this afternoon. The queue was out the door and down the street. Apparently yesterday it became a bit crowded in there and today they have decided to limit the numbers in the store.

    I’m seeing a pattern here.

    I can see the pikes a sharpening

    Bunnings has some very, very persuasive stuff. Particularly in the landscape department.

  16. JC

    Arky

    dunno, but I’ll take a looksee and if there is will post it.

  17. Frank

    Sounds like an 18th century ailment.

    I was always quite fond of dropsy.

  18. P

    If you hold a Seniors Card, Woolies is your friend.
    TP, Tissues and paper towels delivery within two days.

  19. calli

    won’t be punished because of a legal loophole

    A Gordian Knot?

  20. Fisky

    Good thread quoting a speech by Bill Clinton from 2000 on China’s accession to the WTO. Every single assumption underpinning the West’s support for that move has been totally, irrefutably and permanently discredited. Globalism is not just wrong, but epically and historically wrong about everything.

    John Hemmings
    @JohnHemmings2
    ·
    6h
    “For the first time, our companies will be able to sell & distribute products in China made by workers here in USA without being forced to relocate manufacturing to PRC, or transfer valuable technology — for the first time. We’ll be able to export products without exporting jobs”

    “Meanwhile, we’ll get valuable new safeguards against any surges of imports from China. We’re already preparing for the largest enforcement effort ever given for a trade agreement.”

    “PRC is not simply agreeing to import more of our products; it is agreeing to import one of democracy’s most cherished values: economic freedom. The more China liberalizes its economy, the more fully it will liberate the potential of its people — they will demand a greater say”

    “Now there’s no question China has been trying to crack down on the Internet. (Chuckles.) Good luck! (Laughter.) That’s sort of like trying to nail jello to the wall. (Laughter.) But I would argue to you that their effort to do that just proves how real these changes are”

    “It’s not an argument for slowing down the effort to bring China into the world, it’s an argument for accelerating that effort. In the knowledge economy, economic innovation and political empowerment, whether anyone likes it or not, will inevitably go hand in hand.”

    “of course, bringing China into the W.T.O. doesn’t guarantee that it will choose political reform. But accelerating the progress — the process of economic change will force China to confront that choice sooner, and it will make the imperative for the right choice stronger.“

    “And again I ask, if China is willing to take this risk — and these leaders are very intelligent people; they know exactly what they’re doing — if they’re willing to take this risk, how can we turn our backs on the chance to take them up on it?”

    https://twitter.com/JohnHemmings2/status/1244033923148943361

  21. JC

    Lol There is, sort of. KOL.

    Analyst Report

    This ETF offers exposure to the global coal industry, making it one option for investors who believe that demand for this fuel source will increase. Because coal consumption depends on the health of the global economy, KOL will generally be a high beta play that exhibits heightened sensitivity to global equity markets. As a narrowly-focused fund, KOL is likely too targeted for most investors seeking to devise a long-term portfolio. But it can be useful as a satellite holding for those with a bullish outlook on this sector. Given the targeted focus, it isn’t surprising that KOL is somewhat concentrated; the underlying portfolio consists of about 40 stocks and makes significant allocations to a few of the largest companies in the underlying index. The other coal ETF options in PKOL; that ETF maintains a higher allocation to international stocks than does KOL, and suffers from some of the same concentration issues. KOL is more competitive from a cost perspective.

  22. Fisky

    It’s not just the fundamentals that were wrong, it’s almost every single detailed prediction as well. Impressive.

  23. Dr Faustus

    I was always quite fond of dropsy.

    Yes, a rather whimsical term for ‘gargle to death’.

  24. egg_

    ABC The Mix: Tears over the closure of the Melbourne Comedy Festival.
    Our cruise ship Docs would attend?

  25. egg_

    Good thread quoting a speech by Bill Clinton from 2000 on China’s accession to the WTO.

    Apparently, when (outgoing President) Clinton visited Putin, he was treated with utter contempt.

  26. Farmer Gez

    We’ve gone backwards from this morning’s promising virus figures. 334 new cases. The jet-setter and the cruiser victims are still coming out. Another week before we can isolate that group down.

  27. Arky

    ARCH coal
    That has to be a good thing if things turn to shit doesn’t it?
    I mean, they can’t turn the lights off completely.
    They keep people inside they need electricity, and coal provides electricity still.
    ..

  28. Fisky

    Apparently, when (outgoing President) Clinton visited Putin, he was treated with utter contempt

    Kosovo plus the economics advice of Harvard academics which imploded Russia’s economy.

  29. I mean, they can’t turn the lights off completely.

    ROR

  30. thefrollickingmole

    Fisky

    Now theres a Monty level of wrongness at a high political level.

  31. Sean

    We’ve gone backwards from this morning’s promising virus figures. 334 new cases. The jet-setter and the cruiser victims are still coming out. Another week before we can isolate that group down.

    How can we isolate the asymptomatic without putting everyone in prison? I hope not, but we must prepare ourselves for the fact this may get out of control real quick. Only South Korea appears to have dropped the rate of new cases. We aren’t testing people with mild symptoms which skews the numbers downwards.

  32. Arky

    KOL
    .
    Ta.
    Look at the chart and see what KOL did after the GFC.
    https://www.google.com/search?q=KOL+stocks&oq=KOL+stocks&aqs=chrome..69i57.5127j1j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

  33. Dr Faustus

    Thirty-three doctors who ignored quarantine orders after arriving in Sydney from a cruise in Chile likely won’t be punished because of a legal loophole.

    This “legal loophole” needs to be explained.
    Rather carefully.

    It’s one thing running the country on an extra-legal vibe because ‘we’re all in this together’; quite another when that allows ‘loopholes’ for arrogant breaches by entitled dickheads.

  34. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Appreciate the womb emancipation day thoughts, BBS.

    Moi?
    I know, if you have to repeat it then it’s lost its mojo…

  35. If they can stop you swimming in the sea by yourself, they can do anything.

    Experts agree, shutting down Viktoristan’s electricity generation will save lives.

  36. calli

    Watching Khartoum for gazillionth time.

    Oh, the blackfacery! Fortunately all who donned the bootpolish are gone and therefore unshameable.

    It could never be made today.

  37. Boambee John

    Slimy little Arse Bandit calls for nationalisation without compensation.

    If candidates for Parliament were required to pass an exam on the Constitution, this particular twat would not have made the cut.

  38. Nick

    Thirty-three doctors who ignored quarantine orders after arriving in Sydney from a cruise in Chile likely won’t be punished because of a legal loophole.

    A legal loophole that the rest of those incarcerated can’t use lol

  39. cohenite

    I’m just speaking truth to power.

    Arseholes.

    Idris elba intones:

    Actor Idris Elba, one of the first celebrities to test positive for the novel coronavirus, said during a new interview that the pandemic is Earth’s revenge against the human race….

    “There’s no surprise that a virus has been created that is going to slow us down, and ultimately make us think differently about our world and ourselves,” he continued. “For me, that’s a stand-out thing that’s really obvious. This is almost like the world’s cry out. Like: ‘Hey, hey, hey — you’re kicking me, you know, and what you’re doing is not good, so I’ll get rid of you,’ — as any organism would do, is try to get rid of an infection. And maybe this is it for the world.”

    Fair dinkum, the whole of Hollywood should be shot, with a few exceptions.

  40. Arky

    KOL holdings:
    ..

    Symbol
    Holding
    % Assets
    1088 China Shenhua Energy Co Ltd 9.49%
    AZJ Aurizon Holdings Ltd 8.77%
    TECK Teck Resources Ltd 6.29%
    EXX Exxaro Resources Ltd 5.79%
    UNTR United Tractors Tbk PT 5.76%
    SOL Washington H Soul Pattinson and Company Ltd 5.67%
    1171 Yanzhou Coal Mining Co Ltd 5.52%
    WHC Whitehaven Coal Ltd 5.10%
    ADRO Adaro Energy Tbk PT 4.65%
    1898 China Coal Energy Co Ltd 4.65%
    BANPU-R Banpu PCL 4.34%
    PTBA Bukit Asam Tbk PT 4.21%
    631 Sany Heavy Equipment International Holdings Company Ltd 4.04%
    WTE Westshore Terminals Investment Corp 3.29%
    639 Shougang Fushan Resources Group Ltd 3.13%

    ..
    Too much China in there.

  41. egg:

    – The is a complete Global stop never been done before
    – Does the Govt have enough money to restart the Economy

    All that the government needs to do is to get out of the way and the economy will right itself. Honestly, that’s historically what has been necessary for economies to recover from devastation.
    Germany went from an industrial wasteland after WW2 to the powerhouse of Europe while all the economies that didn’t have their rulebook torn up took decades to recover – some of them still haven’t really recovered.

  42. Bruce of Newcastle

    Apparently, when (outgoing President) Clinton visited Putin, he was treated with utter contempt.

    Bombing Serbia will do that for you.
    The previous time it started WW1.

  43. johanna

    areff, I have been trying to resubscribe to Quadrant for a couple of weeks now. I enter all the data, then – nothing. There is no next step to process the payment.

    I called the phone number and talked to a very polite young lady who promised to fix it and facilitate my subscription. Neither of those things has happened.

    I know it’s not your bailiwick, but when people are prevented from giving you money – yikes!

  44. calli

    And Cassie, on your daigou video.

    I was given gyp here for my baby formula whinge back in 2016. Family was in dire straits because of the shortages. It really bit hard, but the vast majority of the commenters had not experienced it and stuck to their ideological guns.

    And four years later…no TP, masks, PPE, and many…many other things gone awol in a pandemic.

    How times change.

  45. mh

    Thirty-three doctors who ignored quarantine orders after arriving in Sydney from a cruise in Chile likely won’t be punished because of a legal loophole

    This bastard country.

  46. calli

    All that the government needs to do is to get out of the way and the economy will right itself.

    Correct.

    And I want them to get out of the way to the same level that they’re getting in the way right now.

    I’m thinking a rout, with a vengeance.

  47. egg_

    From the you-couldn’t-make-this-sh1t-up Dept comes a recent episode of Escape to the Country from Aunty, where a middle aged City couple are looking to buy a cottage at the back blocks of lake Macquarie.
    It has to have a painting therapy room for both him and her.
    Second marriage for both, the yank empathising with his new Missus?
    KD could do a better narrative.

  48. Knuckle Dragger

    Dr Fulde should be paraded in front of his fellow special people, in person, and also the nation via television.

    Whereupon he should be shot in the cock and left bleeding out in the street.

    The only medical supplies available to his colleagues should be restricted to their children’s original birth certificates in place of pressure bandages, and a tweezer to retrieve remnants of the aforementioned cock.

  49. thefrollickingmole

    We crossed over this week: coronavirus is heaping cruelty upon cruelty
    Brigid Delaney
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/27/we-crossed-over-this-week-coronavirus-is-heaping-cruelty-upon-cruelty

    Bridgid Delaneys uterus leaves isolation and goes for a wander over her keyboard…
    And channels bad Twilight fanfiction.

    Fear is everywhere this week.
    unsettled twilight land
    the vibe, which couldn’t be captured
    wilful blindness
    terrible known unknown
    Bondi’s brief Weimar Republic moment was over
    much darker phase
    Black Monday
    heartbreaking sights
    a seismic explosion
    flooded with fear.
    As a society, white Australia has not experienced this level of fear collectively before.
    as if the virus had the power to distort even the most disembodied form of communication.
    But mostly fear is in the air – thick and heavy all around us like an invisible pea soup, carrying an almost chemical taint. This taint feels hormone-like in its elements, a kind of an anti-pheromone that repels rather than attracts.

    Thats the estrogen from barely 1/2 the article.

  50. Helen

    As a society, white Australia ??? has not experienced this level of fear collectively before. Maybe not in your limited living and poorly educated memory ass-hole, but we have had pandemics before, Spanish flu, polio. We have had shit times, war X 2 and depression, huge drought. But it is all about you, love, isn’t it?

  51. Roger

    Watching Khartoum for gazillionth time.

    It could never be made today.

    Well…they could, but the Mahdi would be the hero and Gordon the villain in a post-colonialist reframing.

  52. Bruce of Newcastle

    This has got to be the weirdest Presidential election year ever.

    Only 632 People Watch Sleepy Joe Biden’s Coronavirus Town Hall on YouTube (28 Mar)

  53. Knuckle Dragger

    Remember the video of the Saigon police chief shooting the captured VC in the street?

    Like that. Except right in the sav.

  54. OldOzzie

    rickw
    #3382479, posted on March 29, 2020 at 1:25 pm
    Little bloke happy this arvo, on top of 4 3D printed Sherman’s to match his 1/35 plastic army men, he now has a 3D printed Willys Jeep to tow his old “Britain’s” 25 ponder.

    Urgent requests have been made for more jeeps and some Jeep trailers, also some trucks.

    Open to thoughts on trucks, I always thought the 6X4 Studebakers looked pretty good.

    It was great driving 6×4 Studebakers, doing Army Driver Training Course, around Puckapunyal Hill Course and Tank Course. (I already had HC Heavy Vehicle Drivers licence, but still had to do Army Driver Training Course)

    Could change gears without using clutch, and get the Stude sideways going around corners, we also trained on Land Rovers and International Mark 3 4×4 Trucks (definitely not as much fun as Studebakers)

  55. calli

    Ahahahah! From Mole’s link:

    Suddenly jobless in my circle were yoga teachers, barmen, baristas, cafe owners, a university support worker, university cleaner, personal trainers, roadies, two tour managers for bands, freelance journalists, friends in PR and regional journalism, playwrights, coffee cart owners, sound engineers, winery owners, chefs, cinema operators, kitchen hands, film production crew, ushers at theatres, stage hands, driving instructors, those doing contract work for financial services, event organisers, florists and professional MCs.

    When I spoke to these friends, the conversations were flooded with fear.

    As a society, white Australia has not experienced this level of fear collectively before.

    My goodness, what a social circle she has!

    And the fear! Such fear.

    Brigid, you complete and utter twat. Do you not know about that little kerfuffle called WWII? Have a scout around in your newly imposed “work from home” and discover the slit trenches in schoolyards and army encampments, amongst other things. And the bombs that fell in Bellevue Hill.

    Then get back to us about your faux “fear”.

  56. Dr Faustus

    Leaving the question of punishment aside, presumably these 33 medical loopholes are now safely in monitored isolation in hotels wherever they eventually landed.

    If not, we’re observing a deliberately uncontrolled system failure.

  57. EvilElvis

    From the you-couldn’t-make-this-sh1t-up Dept comes a recent episode of Escape to the Country from Aunty,

    My better half and I used to play a drinking game when watching it. Any time sustainable, disabled, self supporting, environmentally conscious etc was mentioned you had to skull.

    Thanks God the good woman would pass out wrecked after ten minutes or I’d have developed a real drinking problem.

  58. Nick

    Fark, I’m starting to believe that the Guardian reading feminazii are right about powerful white, older men.

  59. johanna

    Ministers and senior Downing Street officials said the Communist state now faces a ‘reckoning’ over its handling of the outbreak and risks becoming a ‘pariah state’.

    That wet lettuce leaf must be a pile of mush by now.

  60. thefrollickingmole

    Remember the video of the Saigon police chief shooting the captured VC in the street?

    Like that. Except right in the sav.

    At least give the poor chap a rock salt poultice to staunch the bleeding…

  61. egg_

    ‘Hey, hey, hey — you’re kicking me, you know, and what you’re doing is not good, so I’ll get rid of you,’ — as any organism would do, is try to get rid of an infection. And maybe this is it for the world.”

    Sub Greta level rhetoric.

  62. Knuckle Dragger

    That Delaney masterclass in swooning reminds me.

    We should all light a candle for La Trioli, who will inspire countless future generations with her Anne Frank-like struggle against an unseen oppressor.

  63. egg:

    Do the numpties in Canberra know how to do a black start when the light go out?
    /Yours truly trained their Emergency Services

    Are you talking about the ability to restart the grid after a total failure?
    My understanding of this is it will be a long and tedious process.
    Can you enlarge on it for us?

  64. Nick

    Suddenly jobless in my circle were yoga teachers,

    Anyone, anyone who describes themselves on social media or in public, as a “yogi”, is a wankeur.

  65. Johno

    Re the Docs’ of disgrace getting off. Apparently the relevant authorities who met the maggots at the disembarkation gate did not have the relevant Public Health Orders ready to serve on them. They were told to wait and they said “No”. They can’t be charged because they weren’t served. Loovely just loovely.

  66. EvilElvis

    Anyone, anyone who describes themselves on social media or in public, as a “yogi”, is a wankeur.

    #barre4lyfe

  67. Farmer Gez

    When poor villagers were eaten by tigers they hired hunters to kill the tiger.
    Our State Premiers are hunting the villagers instead.
    If you don’t work or move about the tiger will go away. Track the tiger down you buffoons.

  68. Armadillo

    Too much China in there.

    This is the problem.

    China is a company. A massive company, with over 1 billion employees.

    None of the “Western Rules” of business apply.

  69. Boambee John

    Watching Khartoum for gazillionth time.

    It could never be made today.

    I’m still waiting for the Teev station with the cojones to run El Cid.

  70. notafan

    What happens when the army had Poohflu?

    Asking for a friend.

  71. egg_

    Any time sustainable, disabled, self supporting, environmentally conscious etc was mentioned

    They ticked most of those boxes, and were looking for work in the NGO community sector in the back blocks – like everyone else?
    They looked like a pair of DISP con artists.

  72. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘friends in PR and regional journalism, playwrights, coffee cart owners,’

    Yeah. Righto.

    Someone, somewhere in this country has a ‘job’ as a playwright. Or had.

    ‘My career in playwrightery stuttered when the real unemployed got more money.’

  73. notafan

    KD

    Anne Frank like.
    Harsh but fair.

  74. Nick

    I can’t wait till we have an article highlighting the unemployment of puppeteers and mime artists. I’ll be pissing myself.

  75. calli

    These idiotic women (press and tv) need to be sent home and shut off. Like the cow in the supermarket who wailed “we’re all going to starve” in front of her child, much to my daughter’s disgust.

    They are complete and utter hysterical halfwits. In an earlier age, they would have been given a good slap on the chops.

    There are some here would volunteer for the sad (but satisfying) duty.

  76. johanna

    egg_
    #3382829, posted on March 29, 2020 at 5:05 pm

    From the you-couldn’t-make-this-sh1t-up Dept comes a recent episode of Escape to the Country from Aunty, where a middle aged City couple are looking to buy a cottage at the back blocks of lake Macquarie.
    It has to have a painting therapy room for both him and her.
    Second marriage for both, the yank empathising with his new Missus?
    KD could do a better narrative.

    The American House Hunters has gone one better. They recently screened an episode where some sort of weird triplicate group were the buyers.

    As somebody who has been around the block a few times, let me tell you that sooner or later triplicates end up as two against one. It’s the way of the world.

  77. Armadillo

    For Globalists, China is the model.

  78. bespoke

    From the you-couldn’t-make-this-sh1t-up Dept comes a recent episode of Escape to the Country from Aunty, where a middle aged City couple are looking to buy a cottage at the back blocks of lake Macquarie.
    It has to have a painting therapy room for both him and her.
    Second marriage for both, the yank empathising with his new Missus?
    KD could do a better narrative.

    Should be treated like a virus and named accordingly. California.

    Calli-103 sounds about right. 😎

  79. calli

    As somebody who has been around the block a few times, let me tell you that sooner or later triplicates end up as two against one. It’s the way of the world.

    Chuckle. Three tough, determined siblings will demonstrate that.

    How I wanted them to use their talents for good and not evil. 😀

  80. notafan

    Eat those unkind words KD

    Van Badham is a playwright.

    A famous one.

    So is Benjamin Law.

    Why just the other day he had a play being performed.

    I believe he is on record blaming white supremacists for creating the virus to put an end to his play’s run.

  81. Roger

    They can’t be charged because they weren’t served.

    Surely they could still charge them with disobeying a lawful order?

  82. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    FFS, by the time idiocy ends I’m going to as svelte and coherent as an elephelent.

  83. Siltstone

    Re the Docs’ of disgrace getting off. Apparently the relevant authorities who met the maggots at the disembarkation gate did not have the relevant Public Health Orders ready to serve on them. They were told to wait and they said “No”. They can’t be charged because they weren’t served. Loovely just loovely

    Yep, the “authorities” who did not have the Public Health Orders are not the brightest of sparks. Or else they actually knew what they were doing (wink wink doctor). Is this also practical evidence that the the majority of doctors don’t actually believe that strict isolation is necessary (do as I say, not as I do)?

  84. areff

    Johanna, I’ll take up your sub issues with the people you spoke too. Promise

  85. calli

    They’re trying to outdo each other in the torturing of our language over at Aunty.

    Hard border closure could cut WA off as state’s coronavirus total eclipses 300

    🤣

  86. Perhaps next season of Survivor could have those 33 doctors. See if they are ‘all in this together’ like we are told by countless flogs on the tv.

  87. mh

    COMMENTARY

    Don’t have to be sick to be a virus victim
    These scenes outside Centrelink seem eerily similar to the historical newsreels we have all seen about the Depression.
    10 MINUTES AGO By GRAHAM RICHARDSON

    Except these scenes are the direct result of action by government.

    They wanted those queues.

  88. EvilElvis

    I can’t wait till we have an article highlighting the unemployment of puppeteers and mime artists. I’ll be pissing myself.

    If the head of the Mimes Organised Nationally Group (MONG) pulls a press conference do they need a hand twirler?

  89. Fisky

    Suddenly jobless in my circle were yoga teachers, barmen, baristas, cafe owners, a university support worker, university cleaner, personal trainers, roadies, two tour managers for bands, freelance journalists, friends in PR and regional journalism, playwrights, coffee cart owners, sound engineers, winery owners, chefs, cinema operators, kitchen hands, film production crew, ushers at theatres, stage hands, driving instructors, those doing contract work for financial services, event organisers, florists and professional MCs.

    A lot of these jobs are unnecessary.

  90. areff

    Calli, don’t be intolerant! Diversity makes journalism stronger, don’t you know, and the inclusion of the Semi-literate-Australian Community especially so.

    Think of it as the illiterate man who wrote a letter to his dog. He couldn’t write and the dog couldn’t read, so it was a perfect match.

  91. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    All of these jerbs are unnecessary.

  92. thefrollickingmole

    calli

    Wonderful stuff want it.
    Worthy of Arleen Composta.

  93. Mark from Melbourne

    Went past a Bunnings early this afternoon. The queue was out the door and down the street.

    Estimated 45 minute wait just to enter my local Bunnings at 11AM today. Just got back in the car.

    Why, I ask, is Bunnings of all places so keen on “asocial distance” (h/t Roger Simon) when I can rock up to Dan’s or Colesworth with not an issue?

    In fact, went directly from Bunnings to Dan’s and there is no chance that the maximum number of shoppers (196 in Richmond) is ever likely to be exceeded. Two shoppers in the entire place.

    Which is kind of interesting… when in doubt, do home repairs or gardening, not drink? We have entered an alternate reality.

  94. dopey

    ABC: Pro Tennis tour off for quite some time.
    Eventually a rally?

  95. Dr Faustus

    The results of the healthy-distancing Queensland local government/ by-election look like a nearly comprehensive fail for Palacechook as the Brisbane Mayor and Council remains LNP.

    ALP to retain Currumbin with a reduced majority.

  96. Leigh Lowe

    So, Viktorianistan has had four deaths from Kung Flu, and 193 recoveries.
    Admittedly, this is a small sample but, from 197 “completed” cases, the death rate is 2%.
    This is high on the face of it, but the four deaths include a man in his 80’s and two cancer patients in their 70’s.
    The fourth one I am unsure of, but this doesn’t seem to have people under 70 dropping like flies.

  97. mh

    We are one, but we are many
    And from all the lands on earth we come
    We’ll share a dream and sing with one voice
    “I am at Centrelink, we are Australians”

  98. johanna

    calli
    #3382870, posted on March 29, 2020 at 5:26 pm

    As somebody who has been around the block a few times, let me tell you that sooner or later triplicates end up as two against one. It’s the way of the world.

    Chuckle. Three tough, determined siblings will demonstrate that.

    How I wanted them to use their talents for good and not evil. 😀

    Numbers matter in human interactions.

    The ideal number for a group decision making body is 11 -15. That applies equally to corporations and governments.

    Within that number is a sub-group who work out how to get the desired result – typically no more than three or four.

    Whether we are talking about the Dutch East India Company, the British Cabinet, or the workings of a Cambridge college (courtesy of C P Snow) it always works out the same.

  99. calli

    I’m back to Bunnings tomorrow.

    Vow to self: have the best garden evah to greet our new, dystopian future.

    It’s the least I can do.

  100. cohenite

    Joe biden:

    The good news is people know me; the bad news is people know me.

    Farrrrk.

  101. Siltstone

    A lot of these jobs are unnecessary.
    The Guardian woman appears to not know anyone who farms, or who works in manufacturing or mining. No plumbers or mechanics or electricians or carpenters. Not one. As expected.

  102. Mark from Melbourne

    They can’t be charged because they weren’t served.

    Treason (even if it gets dropped, which it probably should) sounds a reasonable first pass option.

    Sort of a stern “don’t be stupid”, but with a potential death penalty.

  103. H B Bear

    Most playwrights have a maaaaate at the ALPBC to keep the wolf from the door.

    Nice little earner it was too.Beats working for a living. That’s for mugs.

  104. Ellie

    Essential service providers can go to any Coles on a Tuesday and Thursday morning between 7am and 8am. Just show your ID.:)

  105. Leigh Lowe

    dopey

    #3382890, posted on March 29, 2020 at 5:39 pm

    ABC: Pro Tennis tour off for quite some time.
    Eventually a rally?

    No, no.
    There will be “growing calls” to award this year’s US Open to Serena Williams so she can pass Margaret Court’s record.

  106. johanna

    Thanks, areff. I am trying to give you money, FGS!

  107. old bloke

    thefrollickingmole
    #3382654, posted on March 29, 2020 at 3:22 pm

    Just been sent new notification from SES with map showing proposed roadblocks for WA.

    Mole, do you have any information regarding what the WA government will do with intrastate rail and air services?

  108. areff

    Leigh, the fourth Vic casualty, according to theier ABC, was a poor old bugger in his eighties.

  109. Fisky

    Kevin B
    @kevinonchina
    · Mar 27
    Someone told me 「美国加油」(“Stay strong, America!”) was banned on Weibo (China’s version of Twitter). I thought they were joking. I tried it myself. Lo and behold, this phrase “violates relevant laws or community regulations.”

  110. Roger

    A lot of these jobs are unnecessary.

    Who decides what’s necessary? Do we really want to go sdoen that road? No thanks!

    Any lawful jobs created by the market without a government subsidy are surely valid?

    On that list I suspect only playwrights, university support staff and perhaps film crew are reliant on ongoing government subsidies for their employ.

    The rest, wih the exception of uni cleaners, who are obviously a necessity, were making their living in the free market…yes, even the yoga teachers.

  111. egg_

    For Globalists, China is the model.

    Totalitarian – tick
    Corrupt – tick

  112. Dr Faustus

    If the head of the Mimes Organised Nationally Group (MONG) pulls a press conference do they need a hand twirler?

    Oh yes.
    Forefinger and thumb touching, up and down flexure of the hand at the wrist in time with the speech.

  113. thefrollickingmole

    Suddenly jobless in my circle were yoga teachers, barmen, baristas, cafe owners, a university support worker, university cleaner, personal trainers, roadies, two tour managers for bands, freelance journalists, friends in PR and regional journalism, playwrights, coffee cart owners, sound engineers, winery owners, chefs, cinema operators, kitchen hands, film production crew, ushers at theatres, stage hands, driving instructors, those doing contract work for financial services, event organisers, florists and professional MCs.

    A lot of these jobs are unnecessary.

    Blowjob economy.

    Theater ushers unite!

  114. H B Bear

    Somebody has to write those unwatched mini series so beautifully captured by Des Deskperson.

  115. Bar Beach Swimmer

    “of course, bringing China into the W.T.O. doesn’t guarantee that it will choose political reform. But accelerating the progress — the process of economic change will force China to confront that choice sooner, and it will make the imperative for the right choice stronger.“
    “And again I ask, if China is willing to take this risk — and these leaders are very intelligent people; they know exactly what they’re doing — if they’re willing to take this risk, how can we turn our backs on the chance to take them up on it?”

    This gives clairvoyants and side show gypsies with crystal balls a good name. How can anyone believe anything that the political/media/business class say on anything, if this is the level of understanding and expertise of the relationship between the WTO, free trade and China?

    The idea that this bozo mounts that the Chinese “have seen the light” and will “play by the rules” because they’re intelligent people shows how dumb we in the West were and, until recently, have remained.

    They have never played by the rules and don’t and won’t operate through a prism of democracy, the rule of law or proper commercial standards. They operate for power.

    Actually, the line about them being “intelligent” and us forgoing the possibility of change in China if we don’t take them up on it reminds me of Trump reading The Snake.

    And if it wasn’t for President Trump this shit would still be spruiked from Washington to London and back again!

    No amount of soft power will ever wipe away the f*ckers that they are. In faulty face masks and testing kits to needy countries; in pillaging countries for these products before their pestilence made it here, in the sick and dying and the comatose economy, we all know who is responsible.

  116. mh

    There will be “growing calls” to award this year’s US Open to Serena Williams so she can pass Margaret Court’s record.

    That would only equal it Leigh, so they won’t bother.

    No one will ever beat Margaret Court 🇦🇺

  117. Sean

    Italy stats from upto the 28th from 8460 deaths by age group:

    0-9 – 0
    10-19 – 0
    20-29 – 1
    30-39 – 18
    40-49 – 74
    50-59 – 314
    60-69 – 971
    70-79 – 2967
    80-89 – 3344
    90+ – 767
    Unknown age – 2

  118. duncanm

    I am so freakin sick of Ardern… all care and no responsibility.

    Wellington: New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has admitted she was “devastated” to see new mothers go without support helpers during childbirth, but said the restrictions were a necessary part of her country’s coronavirus lockdown.

    Stand up and be a leader, goddammit. If lack of support people for childbirth is necessary at the moment due to the Covid crisis, then say so. Don’t moan about with you faux sympathy.

  119. calli

    Who decides what’s necessary? Do we really want to go sdoen that road? No thanks!

    Funny about that. Adams joked about the “phone sanitisers”. Yet here we are, wiping down anything and everything.

    It’s more a totem pole of needs.

  120. Those dastardly doctors – where they Chinese by any chance?

  121. thefrollickingmole

    old bloke
    #3382904, posted on March 29, 2020 at 5:43 pm
    thefrollickingmole
    Mole, do you have any information regarding what the WA government will do with intrastate rail and air services?

    No only the proposed roadblocks as thats what they were requesting SES people to help man.

  122. calli

    Those dastardly doctors – where they Chinese by any chance?

    Is their race important?

    Or their deeds?

  123. egg_

    Viktorianistan has had four deaths from Kung Flu,

    Finally, the Hunchback has some skin in the game.

  124. MatrixTransform

    The Guardian woman appears to not know anyone who farms, or …

    The Guardian will be the last cohort on Earth to work out that the Guardian is not necessary.

  125. Roger

    This is what it’s aboot

    The Stranglers front man was in a school boy group with ace English guitarist Richard Thompson.

    Not many people know that. Probably only me, Richard and him.

  126. BrettW

    Watched the clip on Daigao businesses shipping items to China. This is an interesting point to say the least.

    From Australian Post web page :
    “Christine Holgate joined Australia Post as Group Chief Executive Officer and Managing Director on 30 October 2017, after nearly 9 years as the Chief Executive Officer of Blackmores Ltd”.

    Blackmores being the baby formula business which is main beneficiary of Daigao practices.

  127. thefrollickingmole

    Numberwang attempts a zinger.

    I feel embarrassed for it.

    Keep chasing the dream, one day you will catch that car

  128. Nick

    Hey ?

    Refugee advocates fear time is running out for a refugee to return to his Australian home after he was denied the right to board a flight from Indonesia to Australia because of his visa status.

    In what advocates fear may be a repeat of the Hakeem al-Araibi case, which left a refugee wrongly detained in a Thai prison after a series of bureaucratic bungles over his visa status, Amir, a young Iranian refugee on an Australian safe haven visa, has been sent back to Turkey amid the coronavirus crisis.

    Amir’s local MP, Peter Khalil, the Labor member for Wills in Victoria, said Amir had been granted permission to leave Australia to visit his mother in Turkey in early February, before cutting his trip short to return home as the Covid-19 pandemic spread across the world.

    Strange that Australia is the closest safe place ….

  129. egg_

    Funny about that. Adams joked about the “phone sanitisers”.

    A euphemism for cleaning staff IIRC.

  130. Shy Ted

    Before he was Onslow he was Eddie Yates in Coronation Street. Enormously popular and, to the ladies in Lancashire, what is known as a “catch”.

  131. Roger

    Funny about that. Adams joked about the “phone sanitisers”. Yet here we are, wiping down anything and everything.

    Local Coles has employed a lad with an intellectual disability to sanitise the shelves and other surfaces.

    He goes about it with great dedication.

  132. Cassie of Sydney

    “No one will ever beat Margaret Court”

    And amen to that.

  133. mh

    Numbers, tell us again how Benjamin Netanyahu is finished.

    * thwack *

  134. MatrixTransform

    Is their race important?
    Or their deeds?

    Tard does it again doesn’t it … bring yr own rake

  135. Mark from Melbourne

    From the Manhattan Contrarian, a neat summary…

    I suspect that X i himself would like real numbers, but everybody in the reporting chain is scared to death that revealing the truth will get themselves fired or executed. This is how an authoritarian country comes out being a laughingstock.

  136. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From cohenite at 5:00 pm:

    ” …
    Idris elba intones:

    Actor Idris Elba, one of the first celebrities to test positive for the novel coronavirus, said during a new interview that the pandemic is Earth’s revenge against the human race….

    “There’s no surprise that a virus has been created that is going to slow us down, and ultimately make us think differently about our world and ourselves,” he continued. “For me, that’s a stand-out thing that’s really obvious. This is almost like the world’s cry out. Like: ‘Hey, hey, hey — you’re kicking me, you know, and what you’re doing is not good, so I’ll get rid of you,’ — as any organism would do, is try to get rid of an infection. And maybe this is it for the world.”

    Fair dinkum, the whole of Hollywood should be shot, with a few exceptions.”

    Never heard of him – I click on and see Coffee Annan staring back at me – the spiv from a ruling tribal chieftain’s gang which traded the lower castes as slaves, for lots of money, back in the 18th and 19th centuries. Coffee did that sincere gaze thing throughout his long con job career as head of the Useless Nations, as it stood around in pretty blue hats during Africa’s continuous inter-tribal wars observing and noting rapes of the young women, often joining in to show how it is done back in Belgium and France.

    Coffee didn’t care – he was busy setting his grubby son up with lucrative supply contracts to and from the UN. Still getting around on all fours at home and pretending to be sophisticated in public.

    Why do this lot always try to look wise like Morgan Freeman?

  137. johanna

    BB Swimmer, perzackly.

    Eejits imagined that allowing China into the WTO would change them. Fools!

    The same thing is happening with Turkey trying to join the EU. The Turks have lied, stolen and backstabbed at every turn. But, the Eurocracy can’t wait to get them in.

    Oh, and I see that they are looking at admitting Albania, crime syndicate central, as well. Meanwhile, the UK has wisely fucked off.

    Mittel Europa is less and less entranced with the vision of a united Europe. Things are not looking good for Angela Merkel and whatsisname in France.

  138. custard

    Many thanks Mole and Doomlord.

    My boss was hoping to go to Bunbury next week.

    That won’t be happening!

  139. Roger

    Eejits imagined that allowing China into the WTO would change them. Fools!

    Here’s a sobering thought:

    Our political & business elites and the experts who advise them have been wrong on China for 50 years.

  140. calli

    Mittel Europa

    Chuckle.

    Mitzi. “A Murder is Announced”.

    And also where, from waaaay back, I get my pudding face.

  141. thefrollickingmole

    Reminder.

    China has no compulsion about carrying out blatant political maneuvers to allow their own businesses to cripple or take over competition.

    And our Aldi bag addicted pollies have no problems waving through takeovers like that, for some reason.
    https://smallcaps.com.au/chinese-takeover-bellamys-test-foreign-ownership-laws/
    Based in Tasmania, Bellamy’s Australia (ASX: BAL) has entered into an agreement to be taken over by the Hong Kong listed China Mengniu, which has a market capitalisation of $25 billion and is partly owned by Chinese Government company Cofco.
    ….
    It is possible the takeover could also flush out further suitors for Bellamy’s, which has been waiting on a crucial Chinese Government approval to sell its organic infant formula in retail stores for more than 20 months.

    That approval delay led to Bellamy’s dramatically downgrading its sales and profits forecast, with sales at one stage predicted to hit $500 million a year by 2021-22.

    Deal not related to getting Chinese licence
    Bellamy’s chief executive Andrew Cohen has said that the $1.5 billion offer from Mengniu would not “change the likelihood” of Bellamy’s receiving Chinese approval.

    He said he was confident Bellamy’s would get Chinese approval no matter which way the takeover went, with many companies including large Chinese businesses also waiting on licences.

    Shares in Bellamy’s soared 54.9% on the takeover news to close at $12.89 on Monday.

    Bellamy’s directors have unanimously backed the deal and have urged shareholders to support it.

    In its recent full year results, Bellamy’s told investors the company’s full year profit had almost halved to $21.7 million.

    Note the “directors” approving of their own Aldoi bags of cash and pretending they havent been screwed by first expanding on the promise of a China export license, then getting in the shit when it was mysteriously “held up”

  142. Dr Faustus

    Italy stats from upto the 28th from 8460 deaths by age group:

    If you apply those deaths to the population numbers for each age group, there is seems no discussion that C19 is anything other than an Old Man’s Friend.

  143. bespoke

    Roger #3382908, posted on March 29, 2020 at 5:44 pm
    A lot of these jobs are unnecessary.

    Who decides what’s necessary? Do we really want to go sdoen that road? No thanks!

    Any lawful jobs created by the market without a government subsidy are surely valid?

    I’d ad the ones propped up by regulations. But the reality is every body is getting a subsidy

  144. Cassie of Sydney

    “Amir had been granted permission to leave Australia to visit his mother in Turkey in early February”

    Wonder where Amir got his money for his trip back to see mummy?

  145. cohenite

    Someone put up a good site for Australian chunk virus stats with lots of maps; I lost it; does anyone still have a link?

  146. So Jacinda Ardern crying about the lack of support for nurses or whatever during childbirth, yet on the other hand legalisation is soon to be passed allowing abortion? I am sure in the morning I read something along those lines.

  147. Roger

    …whatsisname in France.

    manu micron.

  148. egg_

    Before he was Onslow he was Eddie Yates in Coronation Street. Enormously popular and, to the ladies in Lancashire, what is known as a “catch”.

    Onslow married the better sister.

  149. Davey Boy

    Coronavirus misinformation in Indigenous communities tackled with ‘corona cricket’ game
    ABC Alice Springs By Nadine Maloney and Emma Haskin
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-27/teaching-social-distancing-in-remote-communities-for-covid-19/12088700

    Indigenous youth workers are working to debunk an alarming myth being touted among young people in isolated areas of the Northern Territory that Aboriginal people don’t get coronavirus.

    Key points:

    Youth workers are tackling the myth in some Indigenous communities that Aboriginal people can’t catch coronavirus.
    They are coming up with innovative ways to spread the message of hygiene and social distancing
    All remote communities will be closed from March 27 to help prevent the spread of coronavirus
    Blair McFarland, the operations manager from the Central Australia Youth Link Up Service (CAYLUS), said there was misinformation circulating about the transmission of COVID-19.

    “There’s a few stories that I’ve already heard from youth workers where they are talking to kids about it and the kids say ‘oh, no, it’s OK. Aboriginal people don’t get coronavirus,” he said.
    Mr McFarland said youth workers were in a position to challenge the misinformation but were also able to provide culturally appropriate and engaging material to get the message through.

    “It’s really great that the kids have got youth workers who are known by them and trusted by them,” he said.

    “There’s a good history of that engagement and so those youth workers are really well positioned to give out information that people might trust, as opposed to the sort of stories that are circulating in remote communities now.”

    Given the communal way of life in many Indigenous communities, conveying the concept of social distancing could be challenging.

    “One thing that we’ve done is develop a game which we call corona cricket, which is a game that teaches social distancing,” Mr McFarland said.
    “It’s a sort of chasey game where there are two people on the basketball court with pool noodles, and the people run through from either side from squares marked on the sideline.

    “But if they get caught on the way, they’ve got to stop and put their elbow over their mouth until they are rescued by getting a ball thrown to them by another runner.”

    Mr McFarland said using engaging games had more effect and meaning than relying on dry public service messaging.

  150. Arky

    I suspect that X i himself would like real numbers, but everybody in the reporting chain is scared to death that revealing the truth will get themselves fired or executed. This is how an authoritarian country comes out being a laughingstock.

    ..
    If only Stalin knew!
    (Stalin did know, in fact, he signed the orders himself).

  151. johanna

    Mick, Idris Elba is a very good actor. Been around for a while.

    But, as has been discussed here many times, actors are (a) usually not very bright and (b) as personality types, tend towards feelings rather than reason.

    I think that they over-estimate their importance as influencers. If they ruled the world, Hillary Clinton would have cantered in.

  152. Roger

    I’d ad the ones propped up by regulations.

    Some regulations are necessary. Others aren’t.

    We should pray for a government that knows the difference if we’re to dig ourselves out of this hole.

  153. thefrollickingmole

    And of course the turds at the AFR lapped it up as well.

    The AFR View

    The AFR View
    Bellamy’s approval avoids milking foreign investment xenophobia
    The Financial Review’s take on the principles at stake in major domestic and global stories.

    Whole article below.
    Only question, whats the bane courts decision on the writer of this piece?

    Treasurer Josh Frydenberg’s approval of the sale of Bellamy’s to Chinese buyers will help maintain the integrity of the foreign investment rules. Knocking back China Mengniu Dairy’s bid for a strategically unimportant infant formula company with no significant market power would have exposed the government to criticism for needlessly provoking Beijing.

    The Bellamy’s sale has zero implications for national security. It does not compare with the blocking of Huawei’s involvement in the 5G network build, or the opaque 2016 decision by then treasurer Scott Morrison to block both Chinese bidders for Ausgrid – including Hong Kong’s privately owned Cheung Kong Infrastructure – on still undisclosed security grounds.

    The Foreign Investment Review Board unanimously greenlighted the Bellamy’s takeover given the lack of any asset or infrastructure-specific strategic or security grounds for rejecting it.

    Fortunately, Australia hasn’t gone down the path of treating milk like France treats yoghurt – as a “strategic asset” that must be protected by preventing foreign takeovers of yoghurt brands like Danone.

    In reality, the Bellamy’s sale isn’t even the emotive “selling the farm” or “loss of Aussie jobs” story that some have tried to beat it into. Bellamy’s is principally a front-end marketer of “clean and green” infant powder to the Chinese market. It operates one small packaging plant and has only 160 employees. It owns no dairy farms, and sources dried milk products from manufacturing plants owned by other companies that process a mix of local and New Zealand milk.

    The investment by the new owners will likely help grow the brand in China, generating demand for Australian milk and more manufacturing jobs.

    Foreign ownership xenophobia is also hypocritical now that Australia is a net capital exporter as superannuation funds prudently diversify Australian retirement savings abroad, such as through IFM Investors’ purchase of the Buckeye oil pipeline network in the US. Australia now owns more in the rest of the world than the rest of the world owns in Australia.

    Politicians should not need to be lauded for not pandering to economic nationalism and Sinophobia. But given the age of populist politics, the government deserves some credit for not playing domestic politics. Instead, the politics of foreign ownership have been chiefly managed by the conditions imposed on the sale – by making Bellamy’s retain a majority Australian board, locate its headquarters locally for a decade, and invest $12 million in processing facilities in Victoria – which Mr Frydenberg pointedly says will ensure “that Australia’s national interest is protected”.

    Predictably, the decision has left One Nation’s Pauline Hanson “fuming”. But Sinophobia is also being encouraged on the left. Greens senator Peter Whish-Wilson alleges that partly state-backed Mengniu may have engaged in market manipulation to undermine the share price and limit the $1.5 billion price tag. Bellamy’s application to sell its Chinese-labelled baby formula in China has been delayed without explanation for more than a year by the authorities.

    Achieving baby formula security is highly unlikely to be on the to-do list of the leadership of the Chinese Communist Party.

    Petty corruption of the regulatory system established after the contaminated milk scandals cannot be ruled out. Only three foreign brands, all with links to Chinese brands and state-owned companies, have reportedly won approval, severely restricting the market penetration of non-Chinese brands.

    However, a wider official conspiracy that would justify blocking the takeover for legitimate geopolitical reasons is far-fetched. Achieving baby formula security is highly unlikely to be on the to-do list of the leadership of the Chinese Communist Party.

    Yes, China is a mercantilist one-party state willing to use its commercial power to promote its national interests. Yes, the security risks of Chinese ownership of strategically important assets, particularly by state-owned enterprises, need to be factored into foreign investment decisions. And yes, the rules are different in China, and Australian companies would not be allowed to buy a Chinese company such as Bellamy’s.

    But even if China is closed, it is in Australia’s national interest to remain open to foreign investment, including by Chinese companies, as we seek to enhance the relationship with China and better engage our biggest trading partner. Blocking Chinese ownership of a strategically unimportant company like Bellamy’s would mostly feed Chinese paranoia over resource security and reinforce its mercantilism, as opposed to its integration into global supply chains supported by a rules-based global trading system.

  154. MatrixTransform

    first-hand

    a certain national company has sent an internal memo concerning the border closure between NSW and Vikko.
    Apparently, no travel without authorization.
    no given time-frame as yet

    problem for some
    small elec company in NSW services their remote sites all across the Riverina.
    some workers live in Vikko but they’ve been designated as ‘too far away’

    who loves yr tradies now?

  155. rickw:

    Open to thoughts on trucks, I always thought the 6X4 Studebakers looked pretty good.

    Excellent vehicles. I’d be in favour of building a stack in Australia as part of a civil defence program to provide transport after an EMP attack – just change the distributor cap after it’s burnt out, a couple of new headlights from stores, and away you go.
    I wonder how many would be able to be chained together to pull railway wagons? Anyone know the distance from wheel to wheel so it could fit on railway tracks?

  156. Roger

    But the reality is every body is getting a subsidy

    Given the tax rates we pay look upon it as a rebate.

  157. Anne

    RedPill.

    Iris Weinshall is a man.

  158. calli

    I suspect that X i himself would like real numbers,

    Good grief. Who said that?

    Like the premise of just about every Yes Minister episode, it’s all about not knowing anything about anything. Otherwise known as “plausible deniability”.

    Except we know. We’ve watched every single episode.

  159. MatrixTransform

    And our Aldi bag addicted pollies have no problems

    the new normal … Aldi bags full of toilet paper

    getting things done

  160. Fisky

    Blocking Chinese ownership of a strategically unimportant company like Bellamy’s would mostly feed Chinese paranoia over resource security and reinforce its mercantilism, as opposed to its integration into global supply chains supported by a rules-based global trading system.

    This is someone putting their brain on autopilot.

  161. Cassie of Sydney

    Skanky Markson must be tiring of her crusade against Barnaby….she now has her sights set on Gladys.

  162. Tel

    Thirty-three doctors who ignored quarantine orders after arriving in Sydney from a cruise in Chile likely won’t be punished because of a legal loophole

    All these years and the drug mules never found that loophole letting you walk straight through … astonishing!

    Hey remember how Shagger Thommo found that little “legal loophole” where the cops fill in the wrong charge, then he gets let off? Was that wholly loopy or what?

  163. calli

    Treasurer Josh Frydenberg’s approval of the sale of Bellamy’s to Chinese buyers will help maintain the integrity of the foreign investment rules. Knocking back China Mengniu Dairy’s bid for a strategically unimportant infant formula company with no significant market power would have exposed the government to criticism for needlessly provoking Beijing.

    Sh*t! Can’t have that!

  164. Fisky

    Greens senator Peter Whish-Wilson alleges that partly state-backed Mengniu may have engaged in market manipulation to undermine the share price and limit the $1.5 billion price tag. Bellamy’s application to sell its Chinese-labelled baby formula in China has been delayed without explanation for more than a year by the authorities.

    Ah. There it is.

  165. calli

    We are so deep in our pollies and press don’t care any more.

  166. egg_

    Markson must be tiring of her crusade against Barnaby

    Envious of her old workmate?

  167. Fisky

    So the CCP ban an Australian company from entering China’s market, smashing its sales and share price, then a CCP front comes to the rescue and buys it out. This is “free trade” libertarianism in action.

  168. Knuckle Dragger

    Red pill.

    Lois Einhorn is a man.

    /Ace Ventura

  169. Cassie of Sydney

    “egg_
    #3382979, posted on March 29, 2020 at 6:29 pm
    Markson must be tiring of her crusade against Barnaby

    Envious of her old workmate?”

    Sucking up to her more likely.

  170. calli

    Watching the last, final scenes of Khartoum. Gordon refusing to leave the city in safety while the hordes pillage it.

    Stiff upper lip and all that. Reminded me of this.

  171. Arky

    calli
    #3382978, posted on March 29, 2020 at 6:29 pm
    We are so deep in our pollies and press don’t care any more.

    ..
    I bloody TOLD YOU the virus would be the signal to accelerate, not reverse the china takeover.
    Next thing to watch is the universities, and how they will structure that to fuck over local students and keep the flow going.
    Probably subsidise major Australian Universities opening online campuses in mandarin, enrolling millions of chinese and granting those students automatic Australian visas or some shit like that.

  172. johanna

    calli
    #3382946, posted on March 29, 2020 at 6:10 pm

    Mittel Europa

    Chuckle.

    Death by chocolate. The cake included a block of butter sent from the US. There was discussion about the availability of decent coal before the war. A lot of byplay about bartering to go around rationing.

    The Divine Agatha understood what ordinary people cared about.
    Mitzi. “A Murder is Announced”.

  173. Megan

    A lot of these jobs are unnecessary

    A lot of these jobs are not jobs. They are pastimes.

  174. Howard Hill

    mh
    #3382894, posted on March 29, 2020 at 5:40 pm

    We are one, but we are many
    And from all the lands on earth we come
    We’ll share a dream and sing with one voice
    “I am at Centrelink, we are Australians”

    LOL, Good one, mh.

  175. Knuckle Dragger

    Nick, 5.58;

    Hang on.

    Iranian reffo. He is a reffo because, apparently, he is in grave danger.

    *Tom Cruise: Grave danger?
    Jack Nicholson: Is there any other kind?*

    Yet goes home to visit Mumsack. Whys isn’t she also in danger? Grave danger? Clear and present danger?

    Is there some sort of ‘barlees’ system over there ‘cos he’s on holidays?

    Anyway, what sort of man escapes a country leaving his mother behind?

  176. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘A lot of these jobs are unnecessary.’

    All of those ‘jobs’ are, in fact, pastimes.

  177. Arky

    Someone post Friendenbergs bloody contact e-mail.
    Time to get off my arse and make a noise.

  178. The Beer Whisperer

    The (sh1thole) death ratio is 3:1 males to females.
    It’s a Grandad killer.
    Who gives a fvck?
    Are Grandads sh1tting their pants?
    I doubt it.

    Just saw a doco of poms during the Blitz staying on their homes rather than sleep underground, determined to carry on with their lives.

    Instead, we are forced to stay in our home because a bunch of cat ladies don’t want to catch a bad cold.

  179. Fisky

    This is an outrage. We need to tear up the FTA and impose a total ban on PRC investment. There are no benefits at all from from allowing any PRC to buy an Australian firm. Next, we need to seize control of PRC companies on the grounds of Corona reparations.

  180. JC

    Fisky
    #3382981, posted on March 29, 2020 at 6:31 pm

    So the CCP ban an Australian company from entering China’s market, smashing its sales and share price, then a CCP front comes to the rescue and buys it out. This is “free trade” libertarianism in action.

    Yea Fisk, lets take a green party loon’s word for it … you know …. because they’ve always been honest and faultless in the past. Seriously, relying on anything a Greens says is literally scraping the bottom of a toilet. Double fact check first.

  181. Tel

    But the reality is every body is getting a subsidy

    The way the Martians keep subsidizing Australian business is incredibly annoying.

  182. EvilElvis

    Just popped into the local Woolies to grab a few prepper items for this week and some stuff for my parents so they don’t have to go out.

    I hate to say, I had an ROE. A Random Outward Expression after turning into an aisle and seeing about 14 retards all packed on top of each other. Got a few looks but not much of a reaction.

  183. MatrixTransform

    Time to get off my arse and make a noise.

    his office used to be on the hill up Riversdale Rd .

    will the model A make it up a hill?

  184. Knuckle Dragger

    nota,

    Van Badham’s entire life is a play.

    A fucking tragedy.

  185. Nelson Kidd-Players

    calli #3382879, posted on March 29, 2020 at 5:32 pm
    They’re trying to outdo each other in the torturing of

    our language over at Aunty.

    Hard border closure could cut WA off as state’s coronavirus total eclipses 300

    Of course, an eclipse is an excellent time to spot a corona…

  186. egg_

    BARNABY Joyce has tried to assuage coronavirus fears by saying the viral outbreak poses less of a threat to Australians than snakes.

    “Look, it’s tragic, we’ve had over 3000 deaths globally, but you’d need about 30 to 40 times that number to equate to the deaths from snake bites,” he said on Sunrise this morning.

    “People aren’t going down to the shops, running the place out of shotgun shells, compression bandages, antivenin. People are still walking through the long grass,” he said.

    The Medicos are the snakes in the long grass.

  187. JC

    Fisk

    Is Bellamy even a public company? In order to short the stock has to be listed.

  188. mh

    Playgrounds/skate parks now banned.

    Morrison wants all 70 yo + to stay home.

  189. Carpe Jugulum

    Good afternoon all

    Glad to see you have all survived the Zombie Apocalypse

    At the moment

  190. Roger

    A lot of these jobs are not jobs. They are pastimes.

    No, they’re paying jobs that enable people without a university education or in pursuit of one to pay the rent & put food on their table.

    What have you got against that?

    Would you rather they were on the public teat?

  191. MatrixTransform

    Zombie Apocalypse

    the feeling around here is more Invasion of the Body Snatchers

  192. Ed Case

    Iranian reffo. He is a reffo because, apparently, he is in grave danger.

    He’s gay? Mum will be able to come over on Family reunion grounds so she’s okay.
    Did read that one possible reason why the Spanish Flu killed so many in Iran and the Corona cut thru too is that Iranian men are rotten with STDs.

  193. Confused Old Misfit

    Morrison wants all 70 yo + to stay home.

    He can stuff that where the sun never rises.
    Arsehole and co. have wrecked the country and the other lot would not have been any better.

  194. mh

    ScoMo says:

    Only leave home for work, shopping, or exercise (if following social distancing).

  195. Anne:

    Winston, I think the Chinese people will soon be free.
    As will the Hongkonese and the Iranians and the Australians.
    The bloodline families are being destroyed by the very weapon they had planned to use on us.
    It’s glorious.

    We live in hope, but not too much – as I’ve said on multiple occasions, “Today is the first chapter of every dystopian novel ever written.”

  196. Farmer Gez

    Very interesting.
    Checking the lambing ewes and listening to ABC news radio, when the presenter introduces the impact of the virus shutdowns on GHG emissions.

    A bloke from the Office of Climate something or rather is asked to elaborate on how the shutdown is showing up in greenhouse gas measurement.

    Our lady reporter expected an easy answer but our boy can’t deliver.

    “It’s not clear or easy to read in data” he mumbles.

    He quickly changed tack and said that proxies like car pollution (not a proxy) in Europe tells us we should see a 10% or thereabouts decline. Utter bullshit!

    He can’t find the thumbprint of man made CO2 in the readings now and he knows it.

    The game is coming unstuck.

  197. Sean

    I hope the CMO is right about our testing regime!

  198. mh

    Doctors and medical professionals – just do what you like!

    And have some more ‘government’ money.

  199. JC

    So the CCP ban an Australian company from entering China’s market, smashing its sales and share price, then a CCP front comes to the rescue and buys it out. This is “free trade” libertarianism in action.

    Fisk, is this a publicly owned company of not?

  200. Confused Old Misfit

    Only leave home for work, shopping, or exercise (if following social distancing).

    I hope the youth, youf, yobbos and other disreputable irresponsibles show the gov’t that there is some spirit of independence left in Australia.

  201. The Beer Whisperer

    Cassie of Sydney
    #3382973, posted on March 29, 2020 at 6:26 pm
    Skanky Markson must be tiring of her crusade against Barnaby….she now has her sights set on Gladys.

    Cassie, if Gladys doesn’t fire someone over the ship disembarkment debacle, she should resign.

    If we can be fined for leaving our house without a reason considered adequate by the state, then those in authority must be fired for doing 10,000 times worse.

    If blame can’t be certain between ports and NSW Health, then both of their heads should roll. A message must be sent, and who better used than the department heads who are too precious to speak to their own staff. Expendable can’t just be a catchphrase. Sometimes it must be demonstrated.

  202. johanna

    Fisky
    #3382977, posted on March 29, 2020 at 6:27 pm

    Greens senator Peter Whish-Wilson alleges that partly state-backed Mengniu may have engaged in market manipulation to undermine the share price and limit the $1.5 billion price tag. Bellamy’s application to sell its Chinese-labelled baby formula in China has been delayed without explanation for more than a year by the authorities.

    Ah. There it is.

    Nothing to see here. move on.

    If this hopeless government doesn’t do something to stop the ChiComs from buying our businesses at below value, because of their virus, I’m with cohenite.

  203. thefrollickingmole

    JC

    In this case the greenslime is onto a fairly solid case.

    The company is listed and went from a $1 stock to nearly $13 stock based on sales to China.
    They did what any decent company would do and sunk money into expanding based on the strength of sales and profits.
    Then the Chinese decided to introduce a law which screwed them (requiring a new type of license) and which also mysteriously has been delayed… a lot.
    Price has halved and now a Chinese company jumps in with a share swap offer worth nearly $12 (dont laugh).
    They seem extremely confident the license issue will be shortly resolved dont they?

    But our biggest and brightest brains in politics & the review board are fine with that.

  204. mh

    Now ScoMo’s sidekick Chief Medical Officer telling everyone to get indoors.

  205. egg_

    Onslow married the better sister.

    Richard got the Frightbat.

  206. MatrixTransform

    Sean,

    you and yer advanced numerical analysis all account for nothing unless its proven in the Death Lotto stakes.

    … just keep in mind that I am 2x champion and going for the triple crown … er sorry, the triple corona

    bring it on

  207. Infidel Tiger

    I hear the insanity has been cranked up to 11.

    Getting fresh air with your family is now illegal in this shithole.

  208. Nick

    Lol

    Will Harry and Meghan get US-taxpayer funded Secret Service protection in LA? Couple will have to ask for ‘special help’ and the final decision could rest with President Trump as Canadians bid the couple and their security costs farewell

  209. Geriatric Mayfly

    Funny about that. Adams joked about the “phone sanitisers”. Yet here we are, wiping down anything and everything.

    Back in the day, I recall Bristow having a wandering eye for Miss Pretty of Kleenaphone.

  210. miltonf

    So the CCP ban an Australian company from entering China’s market, smashing its sales and share price, then a CCP front comes to the rescue and buys it out. This is “free trade” libertarianism in action.

    It’s just so fucking outrageous that they try this and our treacherous, effete, quisling elites allow it to happen.

  211. JC

    Mole

    Details on the firms say it’s private, so has the sale ocurred?

    The company is listed and went from a $1 stock to nearly $13 stock based on sales to China.

    and then

    Price has halved and now a Chinese company jumps in with a share swap offer worth nearly $12 (dont laugh)

    Let me get this right, the stock when from a buck to 13 and now the acquisition settled at 12 bucks and this shows market manipulation? Really?

  212. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Someone post Friendenbergs bloody contact e-mail.

    [email protected]

  213. Infidel Tiger

    Now ScoMo’s sidekick Chief Medical Officer telling everyone to get indoors.

    Worst possible advice.

    This is a disease of the city and the confined, not the open plains and the free.

    We are being poisoned by fascist xunts.

  214. Does the ADF have enough ammo for pollie firing squads?
    Would chopping blocks do a better job?

  215. Fisky

    A little research on Twitter gives us a fascinating insight into how this Bellamy’s takeover played out.

    Susan Moore
    @susan_m
    ·
    Dec 13, 2013
    Great story: Tasmanian formula group Bellamy’s Organic rides China wave towards $50m in sales
    http://brw.com.au/p/business/towards_sales_steps_tasmanian_formula_CgiG8kZ1CBbGmn4AqmhcSI via @BRW
    @MrJThomson

    A Business Herald
    @abusinessherald
    ·
    Aug 5, 2014
    Bellamy’s to ramp up China plans
    http://tinyurl.com/mvzy9fa

    SMH/Age Business
    @BusinessDay
    ·
    Dec 2, 2016
    Former darling dairy stocks dumped after Bellamy’s China warning
    #retail #ausbiz http://smh.com.au/business/markets/bellamys-australia-shares-plunge-on-soft-china-sales-20161202-gt2g3r.html via
    @smh

    Influence Blueprint
    @influencebprint
    ·
    Dec 5, 2016
    How Bellamy’s Organic came unstuck in China

    Bellamy’s Organic is dumping stock in China afte http://afr.com/business/retail/fmcg/how-bellamys-organic-came-unstuck-in-china-20161205-gt4dgk

    SMH/Age Business
    @BusinessDay
    ·
    Jul 7, 2017
    Shares halted: Bellamy’s China nightmare continues as export license suspended
    #ausbiz #china #daigou http://smh.com.au/business/bellamys-australia-hits-another-roadblock-in-china-as-export-licence-suspended-20170706-gx6gi5.html
    @smh

    ·
    Sep 17, 2019
    This should be a bigger story than it is. China destabilized Bellamy’s attempt to enter thier market with a new organic product which pushed its shareprices down & now they are attempting to take it over. Bellamy’s China takeover bid https://smh.com.au/business/markets/bellamy-s-china-takeover-bid-and-surging-oil-price-drive-asx-higher-20190916-p52rwf.html via
    @smh

    Geoff Wade
    @geoff_p_wade
    ·
    Nov 25, 2019
    Australia: After its $1.5 billion deal to buy Bellamy’s Organic, China Mengniu 蒙牛 Dairy Company agrees to buy Lion’s dairy and drinks business for $600 million. Mengniu will acquire major brands including Big M, Dairy Farmers, Pura and Farmers Union
    https://smh.com.au/business/compa

    Wow. An Australian company deliberately destroyed and taken over by a partly CCP-owned company. Just like that.

  216. Infidel Tiger

    6 months at least?

    Well I think we can all guarantee we are now all broke and have no future.

  217. notafan

    I think I broke the law about fifteen times today.

  218. egg_

    ABC News: Quarantined cruise ship Doctor says he feels betrayed – Doctors were told to go home and self isolate.
    Very plausible, given other cruise ship passengers treatment.
    Pollie double speak: “loop hole”.

    ScoMo cred = below zero.

  219. EvilElvis

    Lois Einhorn is a man.

    One of the great movie scenes.

  220. I fear that Enzud will grant Scotty asylum.
    He must not be allowed to escape!

  221. egg_

    Does the ADF have enough ammo for pollie firing squads?

    Hence, the guillotine’s invention?
    Auschwitz showers?

  222. Fisky

    A little research on Twitter gives us a fascinating insight into how this Bellamy’s takeover played out.

    Susan Moore
    @susan_m
    ·
    Dec 13, 2013
    Great story: Tasmanian formula group Bellamy’s Organic rides China wave towards $50m in sales
    via @BRW
    @MrJThomson

    A Business Herald
    @abusinessherald
    ·
    Aug 5, 2014
    Bellamy’s to ramp up China plans

    SMH/Age Business
    @BusinessDay
    ·
    Dec 2, 2016
    Former darling dairy stocks dumped after Bellamy’s China warning
    #retail #ausbiz via
    @smh

    Influence Blueprint
    @influencebprint
    ·
    Dec 5, 2016
    How Bellamy’s Organic came unstuck in China
    Bellamy’s Organic is dumping stock in China
    afte

    SMH/Age Business
    @BusinessDay
    ·
    Jul 7, 2017
    Shares halted: Bellamy’s China nightmare continues as export license suspended
    #ausbiz #china #daigou
    @smh

    ·
    Sep 17, 2019
    This should be a bigger story than it is. China destabilized Bellamy’s attempt to enter thier market with a new organic product which pushed its shareprices down & now they are attempting to take it over. Bellamy’s China takeover bid via
    @smh

    Geoff Wade
    @geoff_p_wade
    ·
    Nov 25, 2019
    Australia: After its $1.5 billion deal to buy Bellamy’s Organic, China Mengniu 蒙牛 Dairy Company agrees to buy Lion’s dairy and drinks business for $600 million. Mengniu will acquire major brands including Big M, Dairy Farmers, Pura and Farmers
    Union

    Wow. An Australian company deliberately destroyed and taken over by a CCP front company. Just like that.

  223. Doctors were told to go home and self isolate.

    That’s a typo.
    The word is immolate.

  224. EvilElvis

    A lot of these jobs are unnecessary

    A lot of these jobs are not jobs. They are pastimes.

    Here’s an easy way to sort them.

    Is the revenue derived predominantly from the taxpayer?

    Is there a significant supple chain behind the employee?

  225. EvilElvis

    Supple = supply

    FFS.

  226. Robber Baron

    Chief Medical Officer telling everyone to get indoors

    I stayed indoors all day. I’m saving lives and earning social credit points.

  227. mh

    Qld government forced hundreds of thousands of people into polling booths only yesterday with threats of financial penalties.

    Today we are told only 2 people can gather.

    FMD. Our governments are twats.

  228. Roger

    Now ScoMo’s sidekick Chief Medical Officer telling everyone to get indoors.

    Worst possible advice.

    Remember, these are the medical experts who advised against shutting down the borders early on.

    If we’d done so, only the education and tourism sectors would require a bail out, not the whole economy.

  229. calli

    Of course, an eclipse is an excellent time to spot a corona…

    Ahahah! That’s worse than my Gordian Knot. Bless you!

  230. Caveman

    “Moratorium on evictions for 6 months” alot will use that as an excuse. Does the landlord get any thing out of it, except no or less rent?

  231. Dairy Farmers, Pura and Farmers Union

    I’ve been boycotting those three since the announcement.

  232. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    If I have to stay indoors any longer I’m going to go stark raving bonkers, you canutes …

  233. thefrollickingmole

    Let me get this right, the stock when from a buck to 13 and now the acquisition settled at 12 bucks and this shows market manipulation? Really?

    $13 was when the bright sunlit lands of growth and the license were there.

    The acquisition was (apparently) mostly Chinese shares and a $.60 one off dividend payout.
    The board approved it because they have been promised 10 years of directorship (and pay).

    Want to take a wager on how much those particular shares might be worth in a decades time?

    Do you think a government should be able to block and cripple another countries business in order to be able to take them over?

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