Monday Forum: March 30, 2020

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  1. MatrixTransform

    3. Stand back and marvel at one’s genius.

    OH&S … fill out a JSA, put on yr PPE … then stand well back

  2. the only question is was it an accidental release or deliberate.

    Indeed.
    The answer to that question will determine whether or not China glows in the dark for the next 14,000 years.

  3. JC

    Hey, you’d hate to be a Chinese person heading back from China, caught carrying some illegal shit like pickled dog testicles meant for curing thrush and brain cancer or some made up shit like that. They’ll be immediately deported I hope.

  4. Infidel Tiger

    There’s going to be a 5 min test that will make it’s way into the market in the next short while. Test them all before they’re allowed in. They don’t like it? Fuck’em.

    Don’t test them.

    Ban them completely.

    We don’t let in agricultural products from filthy and diseased places. Humans should be treated the same.

  5. Nick

    Wow

    Although the WHO can’t openly address its quandary, the justification for flattering the Chinese leadership and promoting its fictions is presumably that it’s the lesser of two evils. The alternative is that China refuses to cooperate at all, and the world is even less equipped to fight the disease. But the planet’s taxpayers can be forgiven for wondering how the CCP managed to convince Mr Tedros and colleagues to submit to the CCP’s exceptionalism so enthusiastically – and how/why the bureaucrats imagined the rest of us wouldn’t notice/mind.

  6. No machine is on “idle” after you’ve dropped a bag of spanners into it.
    Like that rick.
    Stolen

  7. JC

    Anne
    #3384319, posted on March 30, 2020 at 1:48 pm

    JC, I’ve heard Cohenite mention Zero Point Energy.

    Annie, you’re confused. Cronkite is describing himself.

  8. JC

    Ban them completely.

    Dude, we need the foreign exchange. Just test the fuckers.

  9. Dude, we need the foreign exchange.

    More than we need a few hundred thousand living people?

  10. JC

    Just listening to a podcast. Studies are currently showing in the US that the regular death rate since the lock-down due to the virus is… NEGATTIVE. The lockdown has basically eliminated nearly all accidental deaths or deaths that you get from regular normal day to day living. How about that.

  11. Caveman

    Commercial Landlords have been truly fukd, they are taking the hit. We’ve had a mid size retailer close the doors, still owes land tax ,which we paid in full before the due date, which was well before any lockdowns. What this does is even preclude the landlord (us) from offering the premises to other niche operators. So we sitting on our ass no income 6 mths….but this will be no doubt be longer. Who knows if the business will be alive after 6 mths.

    You got to be operating to make money , this Scmo hand out does not induce work.

  12. Sean

    The lockdown has basically eliminated nearly all accidental deaths or deaths that you get from regular normal day to day living. How about that.

    I was thinking with sports all off the ER must be getting bugger all broken legs etc. over the weekend or other injuries from drunken fights.

  13. bundyrum

    Hey scooby, after your financial analysis of Bellamys you should just fuck off into the distance you daft bastard.

  14. Bruce in WA

    BREAKING: FDA Issues Emergency Authorization of Hydroxychloroquine and Chloroquine
    By David Rufful – March 29, 2020

    The Food and Drug Administration has issued an emergency use authorization for hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine, Politico reports.

    Hydroxychloroquine and chloroquineare “decades-old malaria drugs.” “Let’s see how it works,” Trump said. “It may. It may not.”

    Recently, President Trump has suggested these treatments have “a real chance to be one of the biggest game-changers in the history of medicine.”

    HHS said in a statement, “The agency allowed for the drugs to be donated to the Strategic National Stockpile to be distributed and prescribed by doctors to hospitalized teen and adult patients with COVID-19, as appropriate, when a clinical trial is not available or feasible.”

    Sandoz has donated 30 million doses of hydroxychloroquine to the stockpile and Bayer donated 1 million doses of chloroquine.

    Career scientists have been skeptical of the effort, noting the lack of data on the drug’s efficacy for coronavirus care and worried that it would siphon medication away from patients who need it for other conditions, calling instead for the agency to pursue its usual clinical trials.

    Three officials told POLITICO that FDA’s planned move would facilitate more access to the drug by allowing more manufacturers to produce or donate it.

    Hydroxychloroquine, which is already available commercially in the United States, is commonly used to treat malaria, lupus and rheumatoid arthritis. The drug also has been touted as a therapy for coronavirus by an unusual assortment of investors, TV correspondents and even some advisers to the White House — including some advocates who overstated their claims and credentials — and been championed by guests on Fox News.

  15. Rebel with cause

    Looks like Raylene Boyle will oversee a transition of Australian rugby back to its amateur days. Get woke, go broke.

  16. shatterzzz

    Hey, you’d hate to be a Chinese person heading back from China, caught carrying some illegal shit like pickled dog testicles meant for curing thrush and brain cancer or some made up shit like that. They’ll be immediately deported I hope.

    More likely a 5 star hotel for 14 days .. with self-cooking facilities LOL!

  17. Stimpson J. Cat

    One last point before I go for a walk down the beach.

    With the Labradoodle.
    😂

  18. Struth

    WA enters stage three of COVID-19 response as Mark McGowan reveals 17 new cases of West Australians testing positive for the sniffles overnight.

  19. JC

    Oh hi Ted. What’s wrong with the so called analysis you seem to be upset with? Glad to see you’re up and about these days. Most often you appear to be in some sort of coma when posting here.

  20. JC

    With the Labradoodle.
    😂

    No, we left him home.

  21. Anne

    Annie, you’re confused. Cronkite is describing himself.

    That could almost be a Trumpism, JC.

    Well done. 👏🏻

  22. JC

    More than we need a few hundred thousand living people?

    Like the Greens? Sure.

  23. Infidel Tiger

    Commercial Landlords have been truly fukd, they are taking the hit. We’ve had a mid size retailer close the doors, still owes land tax ,which we paid in full before the due date, which was well before any lockdowns. What this does is even preclude the landlord (us) from offering the premises to other niche operators. So we sitting on our ass no income 6 mths….but this will be no doubt be longer. Who knows if the business will be alive after 6 mths.

    You got to be operating to make money , this Scmo hand out does not induce work.

    It’s madness.

    In 6 months there are going to be mass evictions and/or some seriously large accrued debts needing to be paid.

    The banks are deferring payments, not giving you a holiday. Your capitalized interest after 6 months will mean your payments are larger!

    People have no idea about the damage we are doing structurally. We are never going back

  24. thefrollickingmole

    Got a price back for 20L of rubbing alcohol, delivered mid next month.

    Its the about $30 more than 200L was 2 weeks ago at around $250 a drum.

    Hydrogen peroxide similar, 2.5 litre limit on purchases.

  25. bundyrum

    Hey scooby, are you still an all knowing piece of shit? sounds like you haven’t changed.
    I see you are still the greatest trader in the world, pity you are a gobshite.

  26. JC

    What a treat lock-down is. Perfect weather, not a blade of grass swinging around and the bay is like a tranquil lake. We were close to being the only people on the beach. We saw a couple of others. More please.

  27. Well i got 15% from painter a month ago.
    Good stuff, Wolfie.
    The ambit may have been bumped up slightly to compensate.
    10%.
    😎

  28. JC

    Hey scooby, are you still an all knowing piece of shit? sounds like you haven’t changed.
    I see you are still the greatest trader in the world, pity you are a gobshite.

    What’s with all the aggro today? It’s so unnecessary and very discourteous. I prefer you’re usual low energy vegetable state.

  29. bundyrum

    Scooby you are Scott Morrison, you can’t hide it anymore.

  30. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    WA enters stage three of COVID-19 response as Mark McGowan reveals 17 new cases of West Australians testing positive for the sniffles overnight.

    They’ve gone very quiet about this plan to ban travel between the regions – is that still on?

  31. Stimpson J. Cat

    JC, I’ve heard Cohenite mention Zero Point Energy.

    Everyone loves The Incredibles.
    😂

  32. bundyrum

    You talk about discourteous ….fkn riot, you self indulging xunt.

  33. Stimpson J. Cat

    The lockdown has basically eliminated nearly all accidental deaths or deaths that you get from regular normal day to day living. How about that.

    It’s because Fat People tend not to fall over if they don’t actually stand up.

    Everyone Knows This.

  34. JC

    Annie

    Stick up a current pic of yourself in the side pocket beside your name. I wanna see if you’ve aged over the past 3 or so years since the last time you put one up.

  35. Yeah, it’s very weird, JC.
    Everything is ded, but it’s absolutely turning it on, weather-wise.
    I’ve been going cruising after work a bit, down City Rd to Port Melbourne, up Beaconsfield Pde then went down Chaps home.
    Traffic is unreal.
    More please!

  36. bundyrum

    Hey scooby you still in love with gay leprechaun?

  37. Bruce in WA

    They’ve gone very quiet about this plan to ban travel between the regions – is that still on?

    Yep …

    Perth man arrested for illegally entering Broome after Kimberley border closure

    A Perth man has been arrested for entering Broome after the Kimberley borders were shut to stop the spread of coronavirus.

    It is alleged the Kardinya man, 36, was denied entry to the region’s border at the Sandfire checkpoint on Friday morning.

    Police allege the man was found at 10.50pm last night at Louis Street in the town.

    A WA Police statement said the man did not fall within any areas of exemption and was not authorised to enter the area.

    He has been charged with one count of failing to comply with emergency requirements and will remain in custody until an appearance in Northbridge Magistrates Court via video link today.

  38. Bruce of Newcastle

    Mole – don’t mix the ethanol with the peroxide unless you want to reach orbit.

    Apology if I’m telling you to suck eggs. I’d rather risk doing that than not say something.

  39. Stimpson J. Cat

    Adi.
    @AdiBacelar
    After this is all over, please remember in future job interviews to ask them what their company did to protect their employees with regards to the global COVID-19 situation. Can’t be risking working for wayward companies.
    1:16 AM · Mar 21, 2020

  40. egg_

    In 6 months there are going to be mass evictions and/or some seriously large accrued debts needing to be paid.

    The banks are deferring payments, not giving you a holiday. Your capitalized interest after 6 months will mean your payments are larger!

    People have no idea about the damage we are doing structurally. We are never going back

    Doesn’t bode well for the property market.
    “Idling” Economy?

  41. thefrollickingmole

    They’ve gone very quiet about this plan to ban travel between the regions – is that still on?

    Latest emails from SES are backpedalling a little.

    Please to reiterate the conditions of possible deployment assisting WAPOL in road blocks.
    Currently there is no requirement for our assistance, the Regional plan has been completed and forwarded to WAPOL for possible inclusion, should we get a formal request for SES assistance we will notify you immediately.

  42. Infidel Tiger

    Stick up a current pic of yourself in the side pocket beside your name. I wanna see if you’ve aged over the past 3 or so years since the last time you put one up.

    Going to be a fair reflection off all that alfoil.

  43. Stimpson J. Cat

    Hydrogen peroxide similar, 2.5 litre limit on purchases.

    To make sure it is pure hydrogen peroxide,
    gently dip your hair in the barrel.

  44. bespoke

    Hey scooby you still in love with gay leprechaun?

    Is cohenite Irish?

  45. thefrollickingmole

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #3384675, posted on March 30, 2020 at 5:59 pm
    Mole – don’t mix the ethanol with the peroxide unless you want to reach orbit.

    Ive been mixing the glycerol and water in with the grog first before the preoxide.
    Only been using 92% alcohol so far.

    Would mixing 3 or 6% peroxide and 99% alcohol be a bad thing?
    Ill post the recipe Im using formulation 2.

    https://www.who.int/gpsc/5may/Guide_to_Local_Production.pdf?ua=1

  46. Some History

    Mole – don’t mix the ethanol with the peroxide unless you want to reach orbit.

    https://imgur.com/VyZZiYs

  47. calli

    To make sure it is pure hydrogen peroxide,
    gently dip your hair in the barrel.

    Chuckle.

    60’s “blonding creme”.

  48. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    It’s because Fat People tend not to fall over if they don’t actually stand up.

    monster please share your experience of this

  49. bundyrum

    Have the politicians took a paycut yet?
    Has any snivel serpent been laid off?
    What a shithole of a country.

  50. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘We don’t let in agricultural products from filthy and diseased places. Humans should be treated the same.’

    Finally.

  51. miltonf

    Which is the most evil demorat of them all? There’s stiff competition but I think it’s that disgusting old slag Cadaver-Pelosi.

  52. Knuckle Dragger

    @TheStorm

    Archduke Franz Ferdinand discovered the adrenochrome secret buried for centuries by Vlad II the Impaler.

    The freedom fighter Princip went back in time to reverse the effect, but fell at the final hurdle.

    The Darkness cometh, and yet:

    There is another.

  53. egg_

    Teh Dumb:
    Michelle O’Neil: Possibly 2 Million /20% Unemployed in a few weeks.

    For 16 flu deaths?

  54. egg_

    Peter Hartcher: Lockdown still not enough for da curve.

  55. Knuckle Dragger

    @TheStorm

    At the signal, polarities will be reversed.

    Turn your televisions to face the wall.

    #lockdownyourhearts

  56. egg_

    Peter Strong (Small Business CEO) fairly happy.

  57. bundyrum

    Not sure if the politicians read this site, but if you do I hate (with a few exceptions) you all.

    Hate is not a nice word in the English language, but rest assured I hate you bastards.

  58. Anne

    Cohenite:

    But seriously, anyone who can replicate over distance tesla’s wireless electricity is going to go broke since how would you meter it. In addition the problem with tesla’s idea was directional control and scaling.

    Which coincidentally is the problem with ZPE Along with entropy which means only unequal energy can be harnessed otherwise a perpetual energy contradiction is produced. Similarly the Casimir effect cannot be scaled otherwise we would have Casimir thrusters sending us everywhere without fuel just by utilising harnessing quantum field energy.

    Thank you. I really wish I understood that, Cohenite.

    At any rate, regarding the metering; yes it’s not able to be metered, that’s the point.

    Imagine the production and prosperity that would come from $Free energy and that’s precisely why it was knocked on the head by those set on weakening America.

  59. bundyrum

    Anne, it was to weaken the world not just America.

  60. thefrollickingmole

    bundyrum
    #3384700, posted on March 30, 2020 at 6:14 pm
    Not sure if the politicians read this site, but if you do I hate (with a few exceptions) you all.

    Hate is not a nice word in the English language, but rest assured I hate you bastards.

    Have some Kipling.

    THE WRATH OF THE AWAKENED SAXON
    by Rudyard Kipling

    It was not part of their blood,
    It came to them very late,
    With long arrears to make good,
    When the Saxon began to hate.

    They were not easily moved,
    They were icy — willing to wait
    Till every count should be proved,
    Ere the Saxon began to hate.

    Their voices were even and low.
    Their eyes were level and straight.
    There was neither sign nor show
    When the Saxon began to hate.

    It was not preached to the crowd.
    It was not taught by the state.
    No man spoke it aloud
    When the Saxon began to hate.

    It was not suddently bred.
    It will not swiftly abate.
    Through the chilled years ahead,
    When Time shall count from the date
    That the Saxon began to hate.

  61. Farmer Gez

    Where are the free balloons?

    I want free balloons.

  62. Guess what?
    This is what Winning feels like.
    😏

  63. cohenite

    Annie, you’re confused. Cronkite is describing himself.

    I don’t need ZPE head prefect, you energise me.

  64. Some History

    I don’t need ZPE head prefect, you energise me.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b07-yKnKRMQ
    🙂

  65. Anne

    Annie

    Stick up a current pic of yourself in the side pocket beside your name. I wanna see if you’ve aged over the past 3 or so years since the last time you put one up.

    JC, my avatar is a recent pic.

  66. Mark A

    Anne
    #3384702, posted on March 30, 2020 at 6:15 pm

    At any rate, regarding the metering; yes it’s not able to be metered, that’s the point.

    Imagine the production and prosperity that would come from $Free energy and that’s precisely why it was knocked on the head by those set on weakening America.

    You still don’t get it Anne, somebody has to produce that energy and if he doesn’t get paid why would he?

  67. THE WRATH OF THE AWAKENED SAXON
    by Rudyard Kipling

    one of my favourites.

  68. egg_

    Teh Dumb finds an Economist who thinks that lengthy shutdowns are OK*, doesn’t know to restart the Economy if it goes on too long but doesn’t want to “kill people”.
    Waaaaaah!
    Justin Waters, some wet behind the ears tard working in the US.

    *Trump666 thrown in for free.

  69. egg_

    Where are the free balloons?

    I want free balloons.

    And a pony ride!

    And ice cream!

  70. bundyrum

    Thanks mole, I am anglo saxon descent, eventually this will pass & heads will roll.
    History repeats.

  71. I like the idea of lottos. I propose one, who will be the next ‘celebrity’ to intone it’s our duty to the nation by washing our hands? I’m going Magda Szubanski.

  72. Bruce in WA

    Henry Lawson

    So I sit and write and ponder, while the house is deaf and dumb,
    Seeing visions “over yonder” of the war I know must come.
    In the corner — not a vision — but a sign for coming days
    Stand a box of ammunition and a rifle in green baize.
    And in this, the living present, let the word go through the land,
    Every tradesman, clerk and peasant should have these two things at hand.

    No — no ranting song is needed, and no meeting, flag or fuss —
    In the future, still unheeded, shall the spirit come to us!
    Without feathers, drum or riot on the day that is to be,
    We shall march down, very quiet, to our stations by the sea.
    While the bitter parties stifle every voice that warns of war,
    Every man should own a rifle and have cartridges in store!

  73. Stimpson J. Cat

    ‘We don’t let in agricultural products from filthy and diseased places. Humans should be treated the same.’

    The entire Middle East, New Zealand, Tasmania, China, Europe, UK, America, etc etc.

    Antarctica is fine though.
    😁

  74. Anne

    Anne, it was to weaken the world not just America.

    Yes, of course, Bundy.

    If America falls to the Globalists the rest of the world will follow.

    Joseph Stalin said:

    America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: it’s patriotism, it’s morality and its spiritual life.

    If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within.

    Now think about what the Hollywood and Entertainment industries have been pushing for the past 50 years.

  75. Boambee John

    Doesn’t bode well for the property market.

    Is their stupidity about to destroy the property ponzi? Or only commercial property?

  76. bundyrum

    Some bread, but the circus has been taken, apart from the Canberra one.

  77. calli

    Every man should own a rifle and have cartridges in store!

    Every man should own a rifle or at least a Stihl pole saw.

  78. Anne

    Cohenite:

    I don’t need ZPE head prefect, you energise me.

    You’ve got to admit, it was a pretty good zinger.

    …for an Elite with tasselled loafers.

  79. Cassie of Sydney

    “How about doing these things first Pauline… you should know, after operating a Fish&Chip shop.”

    JC…I like you a lot but aren’t you being a tad elitist with your reference to Pauline and the fact that she once owned a fish and chip shop? Pauline…unlike most people….had actual experience running a small business, employing people and balancing books…something most people wouldn’t have a clue about….in fact I am beginning to think that most young people think money grows on trees. In fact I wish our parliament was full of men and women who had run fish and chip shops….rather than the motley university educated apparatchik scum that are currently in parliament. I’ll take Pauline any day over most of the Liberal wimps….and let us not forget that it was only Pauline Hanson and Malcolm Roberts who voted against that disgraceful senate motion against Bettina Arndt a month ago.

  80. dover_beach

    Peter Hartcher: Lockdown still not enough for da curve.

    If they are continuing to talk about ‘the curve’ we need to see it, projected and actual trend line. If there is no acceleration in the next two weeks they need to ease off as the figures I’ve seen project the dramatic growth to begin in April.

  81. bespoke

    Cassie

    Took me some time but I’v come think the same.

  82. Stimpson J. Cat

    Every man should own a rifle or at least a Stihl pole saw.

    Every Women should spend more time ironing, cooking, and cleaning daily than they spend on the internet.

  83. JC

    Cassie

    Some of the shit she’s pulled at times like voting with the Liars party to stop Lib legislation going through has pissed me off about her. She’s just a opportunist. I can’t exactly recall the times but there’s been a number of cases. She’s there milking the system. That’s all.

    I’m not being elitist at all. Forget what I said about her owning the Fish&Chip shop as that would have been her most productive time. She also has put a lock on the party where no one would be able to get rid of her.

    Latham and the other dude should be running that party.

  84. cohenite

    Just a thought but maybe in anticipation this site should continue in dual English/chunk languages; sucking up to the new overlords etc.

  85. Infidel Tiger

    If they are continuing to talk about ‘the curve’ we need to see it, projected and actual trend line. If there is no acceleration in the next two weeks they need to ease off as the figures I’ve seen project the dramatic growth to begin in April.

    Unless something dramatic changes, WA will be free of the disease very soon.

    We haven’t had a single community transmission and now we have stopped importing filth, we have almost zero new cases.

  86. egg_

    SloMo – spokesman for the Oz Deep State

  87. custard

    watoday.com.au

    Extreme and draconian’: WA Police launch drones to enforce social distancing rules
    By Heather McNeill
    WA Police drones will be deployed to public spaces to deliver audio warnings to those caught flouting social distancing rules.

    The drones will be utilised at parks, beaches and cafe strips to ensure people are adhering to strict new gathering rules which ban people venturing outside in groups of more than two, unless they are family or live together.

    The new “extreme and draconian” measures were announced by Premier Mark McGowan on Monday as part of WA’s stage three restrictions.

  88. EvilElvis

    JC…I like you a lot but aren’t you being a tad elitist

    Cassie, don’t go there! She accidentally put chicken salt on his banana fritter once. Was easier to start a grudge than give her 1 star on trip advisor and get on with life.

  89. JC

    We haven’t had a single community transmission

    I should hope so, with 15 residents in the entire state. Dude, no one freaking lives there!

  90. cohenite

    I can’t exactly recall the times but there’s been a number of cases.

    Says head prefect who has also seen unicorns, aliens and UFOs but is hazy on the details.

    You’re a fucking elitist head prefect; albeit one with nice buns.

  91. JC

    Cronkite

    You’re such low energy. Zero point.

  92. calli

    Every Women should spend more time ironing, cooking, and cleaning daily than they spend on the internet.

    Want a list of what I’ve done today, DenimMan?

    Plus speed reading, of course.

  93. EvilElvis

    WA Police drones

    Normal cops with loudhailers, custard?

  94. Struth

    WE SHOULD USE GOV SPEAK BACK AT THEM.

    Due to an the unexpected impact of the deadly GOV2020 attacks upon our communities, the people have decided to take swift and decisive action.
    Under the Constitution of the Commonwealth of Australia act 1900, we will bring forth a raft of measures designed to halt this terrible entity from infecting the community with poverty, disease, death by violence and societal breakdown.
    We know the GOV2020 is a terrible entity capable of installing wide spread panic, toilet roll hoarding and can consume every aspect of your life, indeed kill you negligently or with the consent of your “will” inspired relatives in Victoria, known as a hotbed of GOV2020 contagion.
    It is now reached every Australian home and studies have proven this deadly entity is now printing money.
    The sovereign people of Australia, will fight this entity and defend our nation from allowing it to settle as the entity it now finds itself to be.
    It has already caused widespread job losses and destruction and has divided many communities, once united.
    We have responded and ordered the immediate closing down of any public building and the immediate withdrawal of funding of these departments, as totalitarian government has increased by 40 percent overnight.
    We will “come down like a tonne of bricks” on any politician that steps outside of the rule of law, and will not tolerate any politician making up regulations and enforcing them with armed police thugs.
    They will be seriously dealt with.

  95. Ed Case

    Which is the most evil demorat of them all? There’s stiff competition but I think it’s that disgusting old slag Cadaver-Pelosi.

    Pelosi turned 80 2 days ago. Apparently she comes from money and she married into money. Anyway, the
    comment i read said that she wanted to retire in 2010 when the Dems lost the House [Tea Party] and she lost the Speakership, but the problem was that the House runs on seniority, and an incompetent black congressman was next in line to be House Minority Leader [and is still next in line].
    The Dems huge problem is that the black vote is their most dependable vote by far but if they allow blacks to take senior leadership positions in Washington it’s the end of the party for everyone.
    So Nancy may want to quit but she’s not allowed to.

  96. cohenite

    Zero point.

    Actually ZPE theoretically has all the energy in the Universe; it just can’t be utilised; it’s untouchable; a bit like you head prefect, you tease, you.

  97. bundyrum

    Scooby you never fail to show you are an elitist, when you are just a twat.

  98. Confused Old Misfit

    somebody has to produce that energy and if he doesn’t get paid why would he?

    That you have to explain it Mark A, says so much. ;(

  99. Cassie of Sydney

    “JC
    #3384739, posted on March 30, 2020 at 6:52 pm”

    I’m not saying she’s perfect…..but I’ll take her any day, with all her imperfections, over the rest of them. Pauline cares about this country. And I was lucky/fortunate enough to vote for Mark Latham here in NSW last March and I have never had cause to regret my vote…unlike my vote for Dave Sharma…..who will be in for a nasty shock next time he sees me. Sharma lives near me and I can’t wait to run into him in my local IGA…….he will be shaking by the time I finish with my verbal ear bashing of him.

  100. JC

    Look people, the most impressive politician in the country is sitting in the NSW parliament. He’s the closest thing we have to someone who believes in western values and classic liberalism. Latham is the best.

  101. bundyrum

    Latham is very good but you are a xunt.

  102. Roger

    Latham is the best.

    Even if he is a social democrat.

  103. EvilElvis

    I’m not saying she’s perfect

    Cassie, please, just stop. I’m not sure I’d get over having my Dagwood dog dipped in the sweet chilli sauce either. Everyone knows it’s tomato sauce all the way. Things happen in the heat of the kitchen though.

  104. Peter the old fossil

    Is their stupidity about to destroy the property ponzi?

    John,
    The longer you go on thinking this has anything to do with “stupidity” the more certain it is that we’re fvcked. We are witnessing the execution of a meticulously prepared plan. Here, and elsewhere.

  105. JC

    I am with Struth.

    Poor struth.

    Struth, make sure you’re wearing this t-shirt next time. Make sure he’s to your left.

  106. JC

    Even if he is a social democrat.

    Nope he’s not. He’s pretty much a classic liberal.

  107. egg_

    GOV2020

    Priority #1: JobKeep for Politicians

  108. Roger

    Nope he’s not. He’s pretty much a classic liberal.

    He’s self identified as a SD.

    On the Cat even, iirc.

    Still good value though.

  109. Roger

    GOV2020

    Priority #1: JobKeep for Politicians

    “No one will really understand politics until they understand that politicians are not trying to solve our problems. They are trying to solve their own problems — of which getting elected and re-elected are No. 1 and No. 2. Whatever is No. 3 is far behind”.

    — Thomas Sowell

  110. JC

    He’s self identified as a SD.

    A social dem these days is an environmental green zealot. Latham is anything but.

  111. Cassie of Sydney

    ” Latham is the best.”

    Yes…because he is willing to fight the culture wars….like Trump. Whereas the Liberals have been missing in action…in fact they have surrendered everything. Most Liberal politicians, most Liberal state governments are just Labor lite…..I mean look at the Victorian opposition under Guy? Look at the QLD LNP under Freckleface….in QLD Palachook is cruising for another victory. Here in NSW we’ve got Gladbag and Liberal Green scum like Mark Speakman and Matt Kean…may as well have Labor in charge….Speakman has been spruiking for Arndt to lose her Australia Day award.

  112. custard

    Agreed Elvis.

    Is it still just 2 people dead of the WhuFlu in WA?

  113. Cassie of Sydney

    “I’m not sure I’d get over having my Dagwood dog dipped in the sweet chilli sauce either. Everyone knows it’s tomato sauce all the way. “

    Tomato sauce on hot chips should be banned….only mayonnaise.

  114. custard

    Adam Creighton is wearing the worst looking shirt I’ve ever seen. #Bolt

  115. Farmer Gez

    8th Dan is missing.

    COVID in the cubicles?

  116. Eyrie

    Use of drones by police. Shades of Larry Niven’s “Free Parks” or Roger Zelazny’s “This Moment of Storm”.

  117. rickw

    The drones will be utilised at parks, beaches and cafe strips to ensure people are adhering to strict new gathering rules which ban people venturing outside in groups of more than two, unless they are family or live together.
    The new “extreme and draconian” measures were announced by Premier Mark McGowan on Monday as part of WA’s stage three restrictions.

    Where did the drones come from? 99% Chance from the CCP.

    Report the fuckers to CASA, 99% chance they won’t have complied with any of the rules thrust on the rest of us.

    Slab of beer for the first person to bring one down. Bonus slab if it’s done using a directed energy weapon built from a repurposed microwave oven.

  118. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    We are doing well on the,cabbage front. The huge cabbage which apart from some old carrots and some frozen peas was our only fresh veggie source, is now half used up. Yesterday I made cabbage rolls with some beef mince I froze in little paks for Attapus, who now has plenty of his fave kangaroo again at my second son’s where he is holidaying.
    Doyles restaurant delivery gave Hairy a salad yesterday with his fish. Eat up ya cat food rolls, I say as I served them up for lunch today.

    Delicious. Did ’em with tarragon, tinned tomato and rice. Could have been a tad firmer but I am on a learning curve here.

  119. thefrollickingmole

    Italian mayors.

    Bringing the harshness.
    I also love how some have the sign language person in the background while they are threatening people.
    https://twitter.com/MarinaStavrou9/status/1244161012833583104

  120. calli

    Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn understood politicians and politics, Roger.

    And entertained us muchly.

    Their scripts were prophetic. Kill the economy to save the economy.

  121. Stimpson J. Cat

    Want a list of what I’ve done today, DenimMan?
    Plus speed reading, of course.

    I don’t need a list Calli.
    I’m automatically assuming you’ve already finished the ironing, and the cleaning, and dinner is prepped and ready to go,
    otherwise you wouldn’t be here.

    I have faith in you.
    😁

  122. Roger

    A social dem these days is an environmental green zealot. Latham is anything but.

    Greens are Communist extremists.

    SDs believe in social and economic justice within a liberal democratic polity.

  123. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    8th Dan is missing.

    COVID in the cubicles?

    Self immolated?

  124. Stimpson J. Cat

    ban people venturing outside in groups of more than two, unless they are family or live together.

    Single Dads and Single Mothers finally getting the respect they deserve.
    At last!

    Ha ha ha ha ha ja ha ja!!!!

  125. Megan

    In fact I wish our parliament was full of men and women who had run fish and chip shops….rather than the motley university educated apparatchik scum that are currently in parliament

    I could not agree with this statement more. I’m over the whole useless lot of them!

  126. egg_

    8th Dan is missing.

    COVID in the cubicles?

    He’s probably busy stocking up on tissues and lube.

  127. calli

    All done, Stimps. And so much more.

    My garden is looking show-quality. I love autumn.

  128. MatrixTransform

    Bonus slab if it’s done using a directed energy weapon built from a repurposed microwave oven.

    frequencies are about right … Hmm

    this challenge is right up there with my portable EMP discombobulation for parking sensors

  129. Roger

    Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn understood politicians and politics, Roger.

    Indeed.

    Sitting in my “to watch again” pile in these days of self-isolation, calli.

    Just below The Good Life.

    Feeling a bit stir crazy so I went for a drive in the country today instead.

  130. Anne

    An interesting thing just happened.

    The Twitter Banners of dozens of Hollywood and Media Elites have just turned to solid block colours.

    Has this happened to any Australian celebrities?

  131. Eyrie

    I wonder how long before the drones have Tasers?
    Oh well, we always knew this was a penal colony.

  132. miltonf

    So Nancy may want to quit but she’s not allowed to.

    Interesting stuff. Who’s next in line then? Clyburn?

  133. Eyrie

    A penal colony filled with the vilest scum of the earth. Then there are the convicts.

  134. Top Ender

    Would you go to jail for $325k+ a year?

    A serial fraudster who swindled more than $650,000 from university funds to compensate for her low self-esteem will spend at least two years behind bars.

    Kamaljeet Kaur Gill was charged with fraud following an anti-corruption investigation into her lengthy and sophisticated scam while working at Victoria University.

    Over the course of almost four years Gill, now 51, forged colleagues’ signatures and faked invoices from the university to obtain hundreds of EFTPOS gift cards to the tune of $614,000.

    The mother-of-two also stole $36,500 worth of Coles/Myer gift cards owned by the university to fund her impulsive shopping habits and buy her children expensive gifts, the County Court this week heard.

    Gill, who was employed as an executive assistant at the time, ordered the gift cards under the guise of a “fake marketing program”, pretending the cards were to be used to entice potential students to the university’s Footscray campus.

    Instead, Gill pocketed the lot – with less than $100 left on the gift cards when investigators caught up with her in November 2018.

    An Independent Broad-based Anti-Corruption investigation saw Gill charged with misconduct in public office, obtaining financial advantage by deception and theft, each offence carrying a maximum 10 year jail term.

    In sentencing Gill to three years and six months in prison, Judge Howard Mason said the sophisticated scam was “a great breach of trust”.

    Herald Sun

  135. MatrixTransform

    He’s probably busy stocking up on tissues and lube

    vicious circle

  136. Good to know that Labor and the ACTU are running the country again. Solidarity forever, comrades!

  137. MatrixTransform

    vicious circle

    super-spreader right there

  138. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Coronavirus: Stranded Aussies defy warnings to come home

    Ben Packham
    FOREIGN AFFAIRS AND DEFENCE CORRESPONDENT
    @bennpackham
    31 minutes ago March 30, 2020
    No Comments

    Foreign Minister Marise Payne has warned Australian travellers who pass up the chance for commercial flights home not to expect the government to bail them out later, as stranded Aussies push for government-funded rescue flights.

    In Nepal, there has been a pushback by some travellers over a special April 1 Nepal Airlines flight organised to get Australians home due to the $4000-per-seat cost.

    “If enough Australians refuse to pay this exorbitant fee, we can arrange for a better deal,” one traveller said in a Facebook group for Australians in Nepal.

    We are citizens of Australia and the government has a duty to protect our welfare.”

    The government is also worried about 3000 Australian tourists and 4500 expats in Bali who appear to be defying government warnings to return home.

    Senator Payne said attempts to put pressure on the government to fund repatriation flights amid COVID-19 border closures were “wrong and irresponsible”.

    “We will not prioritise support for Australians who have rejected commercial options and mistakenly expect a direct, government repatriation,” she told The Australian.

    “We have a very clear message for Australians who are overseas and want to come home: do not wait, and do not pass up opportunities to take commercial flights,” Senator Payne said.

    “There may not be alternatives. Remember, a great many Australians need help right now, not just overseas but also here at home.

    Breaking, from the Oz.

  139. Hanx is solid blue.
    Who else, Anne?

  140. Stimpson J. Cat

    The government is also worried about 3000 Australian tourists and 4500 expats in Bali who appear to be defying government warnings to return home.

    F®cking Hippies.
    Stay there then.
    But don’t beg for help later when your Bintang Mask fails.
    We’ll be too busy saving failing banks and Chinese owned businesses.

  141. Stimpson J. Cat

    Time for today’s weigh in.
    I’ll go first.
    68kg.

    Monty, your turn!!!!

  142. MatrixTransform

    super-spreader right there

    where’s a welder when you need one?

  143. Snoopy

    Mobile phone footage of the boxes of medical supplies strapped into the seats of that charter plane to China shown on SBS.

    FMD. The directors of the companies involved should be jailed until appropriate charges can be legislated.

  144. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Coronavirus: Stranded Aussies defy warnings to come home

    … and be locked up for 2 weeks. how can they resist this offer???

  145. miltonf

    I agree with Cassie and JC re Latham. He should really be in the Senate with Pauline. They would complement each other. I was still very pleased to vote for him when I was in NSW and was glad to meet him too. I’m also pleased in a grim kind of way that I voted informal for the Lower House in the last NSW election.

  146. JC

    The directors of the companies involved should be jailed until appropriate charges can be legislated.

    Really? Like you don’t think that’s problematic?

  147. Mater

    The government is also worried about 3000 Australian tourists and 4500 expats in Bali who appear to be defying government warnings to return home.

    They know that in 12 months, the Balinese will be visiting Australia for cheap, third world holidays and drinking Jam Jars in the Subiaco Hotel.

  148. miltonf

    Gladishoklian and co have turned out to be worse than I had imagined possible.

  149. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Could have been a tad firmer but I am on a learning curve here.

    phrasing

  150. Snoopy

    No. It’s what the Chicoms do.

  151. MatrixTransform

    Like you don’t think that’s problematic?

    oh noes … JC is reading feminist theory

  152. Keith Forwheels

    Tailgunner
    #3384590, posted on March 30, 2020 at 4:58 pm

    That may be the wrong model for what is likely to unfold.

    Expand on that please, Keith

    TG, may I please share with you a quote for George Orwell, appropriate for our times;

    “Now I will tell you the answer to my question. It is this. The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand presently. We are different from the oligarchies of the past in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just around the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know what no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now you begin to understand me.”

    The so called 1 percenters, the CMFEU, the OMG’s, whatever. They are used to terrorising the defenceless. They are allowed to exist to serve as a focal point for societal fear, for moments like this, when we have to surrender everything to be “saved’. When the big state gets rolling these “tough guys” will either join up, stand down, or die. And the ones who will fight back will be the exception, not the rule, and they won’t be doing it in small armies on the streets, or at least, not for long.

  153. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    The longer you go on thinking this has anything to do with “stupidity” the more certain it is that we’re fvcked. We are witnessing the execution of a meticulously prepared plan. Here, and elsewhere.

    did I miss part 2 or 3?

  154. Really? Like you don’t think that’s problematic?

    not a problem.

    shoot ’em.

    think up some suitable charges later on.

  155. Leigh Lowe

    Bruce in WA
    #3384649, posted on March 30, 2020 at 5:39 pm
    BREAKING: FDA Issues Emergency Authorization of Hydroxychloroquine and Chloroquine
    By David Rufful – March 29, 2020

    The Food and Drug Administration has issued an emergency use authorization for hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine, Politico reports.

    Just heard a prof from the Walter and Eliza Hall Institute on Blot.
    He seemed to be saying that theses drugs not only might be an effective treatment, but also have a preventative effect.
    Of course, medical workers are first in line for the treatment.

  156. Bruce of Newcastle

    Would mixing 3 or 6% peroxide and 99% alcohol be a bad thing?

    Sorry Mole, I’ve been busy so I didn’t reply immediately.

    Mixing hydrogen peroxide with ethanol is risky because H2O2 is a strong oxidant and ethanol is a fuel. The two can autocombust (and worse) in the right mix and probably autoignite.

    Also the RoP kiddies like to make energetic packages (I’m carefully not using the ‘b’ word) using a similar mix (which I will not describe).

    I really recommend you don’t use H2O2 with ethanol at all. I suspect 3 or 6% H2O2 in ethanol isn’t likely to go bang but it could potentially ignite not unlike rocket fuel.

    I wouldn’t mix pool chlorine with ethanol either, as it is also an oxidant. (Pool chlorine is worse because you can get chlorine gas formed too.)

    I know what you want to do, which is have a disinfectant plus ethanol mix but I would not myself use H2O2 plus ethanol because of ignition danger.

  157. EvilElvis

    Report the fuckers to CASA, 99% chance they won’t have complied with any of the rules thrust on the rest of us.

    Oops. I thought the cops are the drones. My mistake…

  158. Nick

    They know that in 12 months

    They can whine on A Current Affair how mean the Government is and demand a flight home

  159. Stimpson J. Cat

    Really? Like you don’t think that’s problematic?

    Company Directors aren’t Real People JC.
    Much like Traders or Bankers.
    It’s perfectly fine.

  160. Roger

    Senator Payne said attempts to put pressure on the government to fund repatriation flights amid COVID-19 border closures were “wrong and irresponsible”.

    Stand by for a backflip with pike within 48 hours.

  161. JC

    Good ol’ American can do. It is an exceptional place even warts and all.

    Governments are frantically trying to contain and combat the coronavirus, and those efforts are important, but the world’s best hope is private innovation. Cutting-edge diagnostic tests and treatments are advancing, and government should encourage the trend.

    President Trump recently ordered the Food and Drug Administration to “slash red tape like nobody’s ever done before” to make medicines approved for other illnesses available for coronavirus patients. The FDA is famously cautious, and safety is important. But drug regulators need to be more nimble during a pandemic with millions of lives at risk.

    The FDA was slow to approve tests by private and public health labs, though recently it has approved a point-of-care test by small diagnostic company Cepheid that can return results in 45 minutes. In the biggest breakthrough so far, Abbott Laboratories has received approval for a test that it says can show positive results in five minutes. The company hopes to start delivering kits this week, ramping up production to 50,000 tests a day.

    Purdue University biomedical engineers have created a handheld paper device similar to a home pregnancy test that can be used to test a variety of viruses and return results in 40 minutes. Some note that at-home tests could produce more false negatives, since infected individuals may make blunders. But the FDA should consider this risk against the lower cost and strain on the health-care system.

    The agency should also fast-track review of a finger-prick antibody blood test by diagnostics firm Biomerica that can return results in as few as 10 minutes and can show if a person was recently infected even in the absence of symptoms. This would allow hospitals and workplaces to identify people who were infected and may have already developed resistance to the virus.

  162. Snoopy

    Bruce in WA
    #3384649, posted on March 30, 2020 at 5:39 pm
    BREAKING: FDA Issues Emergency Authorization of Hydroxychloroquine and Chloroquine
    By David Rufful – March 29, 2020

    The Food and Drug Administration has issued an emergency use authorization for hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine, Politico reports.

    Of course no mention of the studies of French immunologist Didier Raoult. The report gives the impression Trump is simply winging it under the influence of Fox News.

  163. Kev

    Every man should own a rifle and have cartridges in store!
    I have my 1918 .303 Lee Enfield and 50 rounds. Zeroed it last year so I’m ready.

  164. EvilElvis

    Is it still just 2 people dead of the WhuFlu in WA?

    Just calculating, custard. Numbers coming in…

    2! Yes, 2.

    If I don’t have to take my socks off or my faux Michael Jackson sequined glove to count the dead then I’m thinking overreaction.

  165. cohenite

    .he will be shaking by the time I finish with my verbal ear bashing of him.

    Kick him in the cods Cassie! Oh wait, he hasn’t got any.

  166. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘3000 Australian tourists and 4500 expats in Bali’

    7500 fuckwits then.

    Actually, hang on. 3000 dickheads who knew goddamn well what was going to happen and thought they’d get a sweet deal OS until it suddenly turned out they were more likely to get BatDeath in Nepal or some other shitshow than this country, and now want to ‘come home’ for free; aaaand

    4500 Australians living permanently in Bali, having earlier told Australia and everyone in it to go fuck themselves and were quite content porking the local chicks and wearing Bintang singlets to weddings and funerals until they realised that Indonesia’s sanitation and tucker were indeed quite a few steps behind Australia’s.

    7500 fuckwits then.

  167. Peter the old fossil

    I agree with Cassie and JC re Latham. He should really be in the Senate with Pauline. They would complement each other.

    Really? To what end? The Socialist Progressive Uniparty** (Lib, Lab, Nat, LNP) now control 61 of the 76 seats, or 80%. There is no longer any meaningful “opposition”.

    .
    Socialist Progressive Uniparty = S.P.U. – pronounced “spew”.

  168. JC

    More:
    Incredible. Trump has made this possible by raising the FDA’s boom gates. But look at the work being done. It’s not possible anywhere else.

    Importantly, these tests could prevent sick people—some of whom may not be infected with the coronavirus—from flooding ERs. Screening large groups would also provide a more accurate understanding of the virus’s prevalence and severity. Screening sick people only may cause the virus’s fatality rate to appear higher than it is, leading to more draconian government responses.

    Academic institutions and drugmakers are also dusting off dozens of drugs to test on the novel coronavirus. A small group of French patients were given an anti-malaria treatment combined with an antibiotic used to treat upper respiratory infections with good results (see Jeff Colyer nearby). Generic manufacturers are ramping up production of the medicines for experimental use.

    Gilead has begun testing its experimental antiviral drug remdesivir on more than 1,000 patients, and six trials are now underway globally. The drug wasn’t effective against Ebola, but studies on mice and monkeys show it may work better on coronaviruses. Early results from clinical trials could be available in weeks. Gilead last week said it is broadening access to the drug and ramping up production. Even apparent dead ends in drug development sometimes later yield breakthroughs.

    Scientists are also looking to repurpose therapies for inflammatory conditions. Of particular interest is the rheumatoid arthritis drug Kevzara by Regeneron and Sanofi that inhibits the molecule “interleukin 6,” which is believed to cause acute respiratory inflammation in severely ill patients. The drugmakers are beginning trials in the U.S. and other hard-hit countries.

    Most medicines now being taken off the shelf are already known to be safe in humans, so trials now can determine if they are effective against the coronavirus, and at what dosage and duration. Government regulators should allow adaptive trial designs that let researchers enroll more patients in beneficial treatments rather than requiring a control group to suffer.

    At least a half dozen biotech firms and universities are working on antibody treatments from blood collected from recovered patients. These treatments will take more time to develop but may be more effective across a broader population. Stanford researchers are experimenting with the Crispr gene-editing tool to stop coronavirus from hijacking human cells. Gene-editing can’t currently be applied on a large scale, but doctors in the future might be able to use it to help patients who don’t respond to other treatments.
    ***

    Dozens of vaccines are also being developed and tested but probably won’t be available for months if they work. The nearer-term hope is that expanded testing can slow the spread while experimental treatments relieve the symptoms and reduce the demand for scarce ventilators and ICU beds. If even some therapies now in testing help, governments may feel better about easing economic and travel restrictions.

    Global commerce has allowed the coronavirus to spread faster and further. But healthy competition among drugmakers and scientists around the world is also accelerating innovation to stop the virus.

  169. Cassie of Sydney

    “cohenite
    #3384849, posted on March 30, 2020 at 7:54 pm
    .he will be shaking by the time I finish with my verbal ear bashing of him.

    Kick him in the cods Cassie! Oh wait, he hasn’t got any.”

    No he doesn’t Cohenite…he’s a limp wimp lettuce leaf.

  170. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    4500 Australians living permanently in Bali, having earlier told Australia and everyone in it to go fuck themselves and were quite content porking the local chicks and wearing Bintang singlets to weddings and funerals until they realised that Indonesia’s sanitation and tucker were indeed quite a few steps behind Australia’s.

    For shame, K.D, didn’t you read the story – they are citizens of Australia, and the Government has a duty to their welfare?

  171. Anne

    Tim Gunn
    Samuel Jackson
    Jack Posobiec
    David Beckham
    John King
    Wolf Blitzer
    Brian Stelter
    Rupert Murdoch
    Kobe Bryant
    Chuck grandly
    Jonah Hill
    Richard Wilkins
    Harvey Weinstein
    Mike judge
    John Cusack
    Conan O’Brien
    Gail King
    Bill Burr
    Andy Sandberg
    Amanda Bynes
    Ian summer holder
    Dave Chappel
    Jamie Lee Curtis
    Kevin Spacey
    Kim Kardashian
    Kanye
    Rachel Matto
    Julia Roberts
    Rhianna
    Will be Goldberg
    Stephen King
    Cathy Bates
    @Jack !!!

    Many more.

  172. Anne

    Whoopi Goldberg.

    Few errors. I was dictating.

  173. Ed Case

    Interesting stuff. Who’s next in line then? Clyburn?

    Clyburn is the one they want to keep out. He’s also born 1940. My comment wasn’t entirely correct, it looks like Hoyer is next in line for Speaker, so Clyburn would then become Majority Leader if the Dems hold the House in November.
    That’s a scenario the powerbrokers don’t want. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Clyburn

  174. JC

    US doc reporting in the WSJ on the success of the Trump pills.

    In the fight against Covid-19 though we might look forward in doom, one day we will look backward in awe. In an article last week, I discussed a promising drug combination to treat the disease. There is now new data supporting this treatment. Since then, Kansas City area physicians, including Joe Brewer, Dan Hinthorn and me, continue to treat many patients, and some have shown improvement. Major medical centers including the University of Washington and Mass General have added hydroxychloroquine to treatment options. So here’s an update, a response to some questions that have come up, and suggestions based on the latest information.

    What is the treatment?

    Physicians are using two drugs in combination—hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin, which I’ll abbreviate HC and AZ—to treat patients with advanced Covid-19 symptoms. We use a regimen reported in a recent open-label trial in Marseille, France, which was updated March 26, and which doctors may modify in any given case.

    What is the evidence?

    For HC, two bodies of evidence support its potential in treating Covid-19: in vitro (test tube) studies and initial clinical reports from the field. After the 2002-03 global outbreak of SARS, a coronavirus related to the one that causes Covid-19, an in vitro study conducted by doctors from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention identified chloroquine (a relative of HC) as an attractive option for prevention and treatment. If added before the virus was introduced, the drug was highly effective in preventing cellular infection. Even later application markedly inhibited infection. Another contemporaneous study showed similar results. As for Covid, a Chinese study published March 9 showed HC has excellent in vitro effects. Other recent information suggests potential antiviral mechanisms of HC and chloroquine.

    The bedrock of all infectious medicine, from developing treatments for specific infections to treating individual patients, is in vitro laboratory testing and patient trials. Covid-19 is no exception. Current laboratory data suggest that HC should work.

    Clinical information has also emerged from Covid treatment. During the initial Chinese outbreak, Wuhan doctors observed that patients with lupus—a disease for which HC is a common treatment—did not seem to develop Covid-19. Of 178 hospital patients who tested positive, none had lupus and none were on HC. None of this Wuhan hospital’s dermatology department’s 80 lupus patients were infected with the novel coronavirus. The Wuhan doctors hypothesized that this may be due to long-term use of HC. They treated 20 Covid-19 patients with HC. Their result: “Clinical symptoms improve significantly in 1 to 2 days. After five days of chest CT examination, 19 cases showed significant absorption improvement.”

    Second, consider AZ—the antibiotic marketed as Z-Pak—combined with HC. The French study showed that 57% of 14 Covid-19 patients receiving HC without AZ tested negative for the virus on a nasal swab on day six. But 100% of the six patients who received both HC and AZ tested negative on day six. Compare that with 16 infected patients at another hospital who didn’t receive either treatment: only 12% tested negative on day six. These are small samples, but significant.

    The authors of the French study last week published the results of an additional 80 hospitalized patients receiving a combination of HC and AZ. By day eight of treatment, 93% showed a negative nasopharyngeal swab for the virus. “This allowed patients to rapidly be discharged from highly contagious wards with a mean length of stay of five days,” the authors write. “Other teams should urgently evaluate this cost-effective therapeutic strategy, to both avoid the spread of the disease and treat patients as soon as possible before severe respiratory irreversible complications take hold.” I agree.

    What are the risks?

    The World Health Organization lists both HC and AZ as essential medicines, “considered to be the most effective and safe to meet the most important needs in a health system.” These drugs have been in use for many years—HC since 1955 and AZ since 1988. Only the combination is new. For now it isn’t well understood why the mix is so effective.

    The clinical information service Lexicomp lists the interaction between HC and AZ as Category B, which means the majority of patients require no special caution. Long-term HC use can have adverse effects. Chronic use can cause eye problems. Heartbeat arrhythmia is occasionally observed. Increased electrocardiogram tracking may be appropriate for patients at risk of the latter effect. Potential mental-health effects should be closely observed.

    All drugs have side effects, and HC’s overall record is safe. Yes, this is an “off label” use. But that isn’t unusual, either. One study showed 21% of U.S. prescriptions were for off-label use.

    These drugs are still needed to treat malaria, lupus and other diseases, which makes it important not to exhaust supplies treating Covid-19 patients. Yet this is a historic pandemic, and treatment with HC and AZ shows considerable promise. That is reason to increase supplies quickly.

    What are the next steps?

    New York state has started a large controlled clinical trial, and there are reports of others. Many believe that patients who can’t be in a trial should be allowed to decide, in consultation with a physician, whether to use this treatment. This is happening in some U.S. practices.

    In a perfect world with unlimited supplies, any infected patient could receive treatment. With limited supplies, we should treat the sickest first and be strategic about it. We should consider this regimen for highly exposed people such as health-care workers and first responders. These heroes in the war against Covid-19 deserve protection.

    Early treatment is always better, whether for cancer, diabetes or infection. The in vitro results, field experience and French trial suggest Covid-19 is no different. If this regimen’s promise is borne out by more data, and if supply is ramped up, then we can expand treatment.

    For my entire career, I have taken a conservative approach to medicine. I don’t want to give false or premature hope. All of this is subject to further refinement as more information arrives. But likewise I can’t ignore the available evidence. This appears to be the best widely available option for treating Covid-19 and not merely easing the suffering from the disease. It would be irresponsible not to pursue this option aggressively.

    Dr. Colyer is a practicing physician. He served as governor of Kansas, 2018-19.

  175. Anne

    Virginia Giuffre, (trafficked through Cabal PedoNetwork/ Epstein victim) now has a Monarch Butterfly.

  176. Infidel Tiger

    Dr Norman Swan may have the China Flu!

  177. miltonf

    Yeah interesting. So the old bat’s stuck there. I bet the DNC have a mountain of dirt on her too.

  178. Cassie of Sydney

    He is such an attention seeker….

    “ABC’s Norman Swan tested for virus

    The ABC’s medical guru, Norman Swan, has revealed he is in self-enforced isolation after developing flu-like systems over the weekend, but is confident “it’s just man flu”.

    “Over the weekend I came down with the symptoms of the flu,” the doctor said on the 7.30 program.

    “I self-isolated and this morning I went for the test. Now, I’m sure it’s just man flu, but if it’s not and I do come back positive, then I’m one of a growing number of Australians who have caught COVID-19 from community spread.”

  179. JC

    What about his brother, Wayne? How’s he doing, Artie? The curse of it all. Dr. Norman Swan may have infected the entire ABC.

  180. Infidel Tiger

    We must close the ABC as a precaution.

  181. Cassie of Sydney

    “Dr. Norman Swan may have infected the entire ABC.”

    Hope so.

  182. JC

    The ABC’s medical guru, Norman Swan, has revealed he is in self-enforced isolation after developing flu-like systems over the weekend, but is confident “it’s just man flu”.

    In other words then, it’s just bullshit. It’s a publicity and sympathy gathering stunt.

  183. notafan

    Nice list

    Kobe Bryant died in January.

    What are you accusing him of now?

  184. notafan

    Did swan have contact with a confirmed case it did he get a test because he’s special?

  185. Cassie of Sydney

    “In other words then, it’s just bullshit. It’s a publicity and sympathy gathering stunt.”

    My thoughts too.

  186. Anne

    Stimpy:

    Time for today’s weigh in.
    I’ll go first.
    68kg.

    58.2kgs this morning.

    I’ve dropped 4 kilos in two months without even trying – on the Carnivore Diet. Never felt better.

    I’m smarter, stronger, faster!

    Shawn Baker is the man!

  187. Knuckle Dragger

    Rupert Murdoch’s on Twitter?

  188. mh

    The ABC’s medical guru, Norman Swan, has revealed he is in self-enforced isolation after developing flu-like systems over the weekend, but is confident “it’s just man flu”.

    So a tax parasite ‘medical guru’ thinks that men getting sick from viruses is just a psychological condition.

    Stupid fucking cunt.

  189. mh

    The ABC’s medical guru, Norman Swan, has revealed he is in self-enforced isolation after developing flu-like systems over the weekend, but is confident “it’s just man flu”.

    So a tax parasite ‘medical guru’ thinks that men getting sick from viruses is just a psychological condition.

    Stupid fucking cvnt.

  190. bespoke

    Kev
    #3384847, posted on March 30, 2020 at 7:53 pm
    Every man should own a rifle and have cartridges in store!
    I have my 1918 .303 Lee Enfield and 50 rounds. Zeroed it last year so I’m ready.

    Could you take them home back then?

  191. Knuckle Dragger

    I can’t decide.

    Join a cabal, or be a freedom fighting cabal-buster.

    700 years of dominance without publicity of any kind vs #TenDaysOfDarkness with my identity carefully sealed by the Tenth Circuit Court.

    Decisions, decisions.

  192. cohenite

    58.2kgs this morning.

    That’s tiny; almost the same weight as head prefect.

  193. Geriatric Mayfly

    For shame, K.D, didn’t you read the story – they are citizens of Australia, and the Government has a duty to their welfare?

    Reminds me of another group of Australians clamouring to be hauled out of Lebanon, while the Israelis were giving the Lebs a touch of the stick. They got their wish, and were asked to strong>voluntarily reimburse the taxpayer for the fares. We never saw what the tally was.

  194. Kev

    Bespoke
    Could you take them home back then?
    Yes mate along with my horse and saddle gear

  195. Anne

    @BardsOfWar

    Ventilators or Generators?

    Remember my earlier tweet…

    The three pillars of freedom:
    1) End child sex trafficking and drug trafficking
    2) End Central Banking
    3) Release Zero point energy aka Free Energy

  196. mh

    Message to MSM: Nobody gives a flying fuck about people in quarantine.

    Or maybe it’s just me? Does anyone here care about someone staying in a hotel for 2 weeks?

  197. MatrixTransform

    The missus reckons that it all makes sense when you realise that Gov’t are actually trying to get us killed

  198. calli

    Kev
    #3384847, posted on March 30, 2020 at 7:53 pm
    Every man should own a rifle and have cartridges in store!
    I have my 1918 .303 Lee Enfield and 50 rounds. Zeroed it last year so I’m ready.

    Hero! 😍

    Do hedge trimmers count? I have petrol ones too. No entrenching tool. I seem to have mislaid it.

  199. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Yes mate along with my horse and saddle gear

    Errr, you could bring your horse home from the Boer war, not in 1918, you couldn’t…

  200. Shy Ted

    I wonder how many pollies are absolutely sheeting themselves right now knowing that in due course they’re going to have to go out in public again. I hope it’s 100% of the LNP because it should be. They’re not the real villains of course but in a way they’re doing the bidding of the left and that’s where the blame really lies but the absolute capitulation in the last few weeks makes them wholly culpable. Ans then there are the invisible army of pubic serpents in the wings whose names and faces are not known to us. Time to watch who’s heading off to work and whose lifestyles are remarkably unchanged. Time to pass casual conversation – “coping with being laid off?” “managing to pay the bills?” Innocuous questions to feed paranoia. It travels up the chain. We aren’t all in this together. It’s them and us.

  201. calli

    Knuckle Dragger
    #3384850, posted on March 30, 2020 at 7:55 pm

    Impeccable arithmatic.

  202. bespoke

    Light Horse, respect!.

  203. Kev

    Calli, I’ll lend you my entrenching tool. Still sharpened on the edges for the “all else fails” moment in your life.

  204. Mark A

    Keyworker, definition:

    A person whose work is overlooked and undervalued, until the fucking shit hits the fan.

  205. They’re not the real villains of course but in a way they’re doing the bidding of the left and that’s where the blame really lies but the absolute capitulation in the last few weeks makes them wholly culpable.

    I don’t even know who the head of the ACTU is but whoever they are, today was the day s/he/it/etc became Prime Minister.

  206. Mark A

    Ooops apologies for the direct quote, not my usual choice of words.

  207. Mother Lode

    The ABC’s medical guru, Norman Swan, has revealed he is in self-enforced isolation after developing flu-like systems over the weekend, but is confident “it’s just man flu”.

    Gawd – he even has the beta-male habit of using Frightbat ‘stupid men’ jargon, seeking to ingratiate himself with the wymminses collective.

    How degrading.

  208. Knuckle Dragger

    Mark A,

    Bang on. According to Faceache people used to berate their kiddies, saying that if they didn’t pull their fingers out they’d be stacking shelves at Coles for a living.

    Now the nightfill crews are ranked by the public head and shoulders over any, and every single doctor in the country.

  209. calli

    I also have many…many circular knitting needles. Puncturing plus garrotte. And kebab skewers.

    Locked and loaded!

  210. calli

    Time to sharpen the spades. Nothing like a handy bench grinder.

    Is a well balanced mattock a bridge too far?

  211. EvilElvis

    58.2kgs this morning.

    Just when you think you’re out of things to throw at CopDrones™, Anne and Stimps put their hands up!

  212. Arky

    Yaaawn.
    [paaaaaaaaaaaaaaarp]
    Morning everyone.

  213. Peter the old fossil

    then there are the invisible army of pubic serpents in the wings whose names and faces are not known to us.

    Speak for yourself, Ted. I have a little list . .

    We aren’t all in this together. It’s them and us.

    Truest words written here today, Ted.

    .
    Time to watch a movie.

  214. Arky

    Still dark out.
    Catch a few more minutes then.

  215. EvilElvis

    Speak for yourself, Ted. I have a little list . .

    Are they arranged into ‘naughty’ and ‘nice’, MV?

  216. EvilElvis

    Arky,

    No response from any pollies then you pop up now and I have mail!

    Are you Nola Marino in drag?

  217. Knuckle Dragger

    Behold, punters. Behold the greatness of DOCTOR Norman Swan, as told by the ABC:

    ‘One of the first medically qualified journalists in Australia, Dr Swan was born in Scotland, and graduated in medicine from the University of Aberdeen and later obtained his postgraduate qualifications in Paediatrics.’

    Started medicine by stitching up child headbutt victims. So far so good.

    ‘Joining the ABC in 1982’

    Here we go.

    ‘Dr Swan has won numerous awards for his work as presenter of the Health Report on ABC Radio National.
    Dr Swan was named Australian Radio Producer of the Year in 1984 and was awarded a Gold Citation in the United National Media Peace Prizes for his radio work. He has won three Walkley National Awards for Australian journalism including the Gold, and has won Australia’s top prize for Science Journalism, the Michael Daly Award, twice. A famous example of Dr Swan’s work is his much publicised and controversial investigative program on scientific fraud and the well-known gynaecologist Dr William McBride.’

    Lady bits doctor investigator. No epidemiology just yet.

    ‘In 2004 he was awarded the Medal of the Australian Academy of Science, an honour that is only rarely given and the Royal College of Physicians of Glasgow made him a Fellow.’

    Only a single medallist. How disappointing.

    In addition to the Health Minutes on NewsRadio and the Health Report on Radio National, Dr Swan appears every Monday morning on Sally Loane’s ABC 702 program in Sydney and Liam Bartlett on ABC 720 in Perth.

    ‘He hosted Health Dimensions on ABC Television, and created, wrote and narrated a four part series on disease and civilisation, “Invisible Enemies”, made for Channel 4(UK) and SBS Television. This has been shown in twenty seven countries.’

    27 countries on SBS is an abject failure.

    ‘He also co-wrote and narrated “The Opposite Sex”, a four part series for ABC Television.
    Norman Swan is known outside Australia. He has been the Australian correspondent for the Journal of the American Medical Association and the British Medical Journal and has consulted for the World Health Organisation in Geneva.’

    So he’s a medical journalist who got his quack quals in the early 80s, at best.

    Yeah. Everyone listen to this bloke.

  218. egg_

    Dr Norman Swan may have the China Flu!

    Swan dive?

    Karma!

  219. calli

    I’ve got a little list — I’ve got a little list
    Of society offenders who might well be underground,
    And who never would be missed — who never would be missed!

    Thanks, KokoMV.

  220. I have hay knives ready.

    But I’m focused on transport to the headsman.

    Tumbrils are ready.

  221. Arky

    Are you Nola Marino in drag?

    ..
    Tim Wilson actually, and don’t think I haven’t been taking notice of all the shitty things you lot have been saying about me.
    Now for the love of God let me sleep.

  222. egg_

    Dr Norman Swan may have the China Flu!

    Also, the circle of pooves from the water cooler?

  223. calli

    Ha! The spaminator ate my reference to woad. I was considering putting in a quick crop.

  224. EvilElvis

    Now for the love of God let me sleep.

    Generic, assistant delivered response anyway, Arky.
    Luckily, there’s many juicy benefits and help available!

    We are fucked.

  225. egg_

    super-spreader right there

    Carpe – Industrial strength mind bleach – stat!

  226. vlad

    I got spaminated for – I’m not sure why. Nobel laureate?

  227. vlad

    Ooh, I’m getting close. I don’t think it was “fluorescent extraterrestrial” what done it.

  228. Infidel Tiger

    The head of the ACTU has said she’s not happy with government paying the wages unless it is $1275 per week.

    FFS!

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