It’s all about Trump it’s only about Trump

Start here: Poll: Biden leads Trump by 10 points as economic pessimism grows

Continue with this: Federal Reserve Says Unemployment Rate Could Hit 32%

There’s then this from the Washington Post: 33 times Trump downplayed the coronavirus

Followed by: An Epidemic of Media Partisanship

Plus this: Twitter Forces Laura Ingraham to Delete Post on Chloroquine Helping Coronavirus Patients

Supplemented by this: Is Michigan’s Governor Still Trying To Undermine Trump Over Hydroxychloroquine?

Although every so often a bit of the truth finds its way out: CDC advisor says ‘real’ fatality rate of COVID-19 is too low to justify ‘drastic crackdowns’. The first para:

Naive and sensationalist reporting on fatality rates from the novel coronavirus has contributed to toilet-paper hoarding, drastic crackdowns on civil rights by political figures, and potentially devastating and lasting economic impact.

BTW how many fatalities have there been in Australia so far?

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16 Responses to It’s all about Trump it’s only about Trump

  1. Bela Bartok

    Breathless media content in the Daily Telegraph “Death Toll Rises”. Read article: death toll rises by 1 to 18. 18. They have to be kidding?
    Destroy jobs, close schools, fine people $1,000 or threaten them with jail for being in a crowd of 3? For 18 deaths?
    Why not close the roads? Surely they are an unacceptable risk. Close hospitals? There’s more deaths there than will die from this virus.
    The hype from above – it’s all to destabilise Trump, create fear, sell papers. The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.

  2. Iampeter

    Naive and sensationalist reporting on fatality rates from the novel coronavirus has contributed to toilet-paper hoarding, drastic crackdowns on civil rights by political figures, and potentially devastating and lasting economic impact.

    Right, so when are you going to start criticizing Trump?
    Or are you just like the media you keep criticizing for being dishonest and partisan?

  3. Chris M

    TDS sufferers must now refuse any Chloroquine treatment on principle.

    how many fatalities have there been in Australia so far?

    AU dead are 19 total now, which is about 4% of the 450-odd infected we had nearly two weeks ago (to allow for the lag).

  4. yarpos

    “BTW how many fatalities have there been in Australia so far?” and has the overall death rate in Australia deviated from trend even by a miniscule amount? About 13,000 people die every month in Australia.

    “AU dead are 19 total now, which is about 4% of the 450-odd infected we had nearly two weeks ago (to allow for the lag).” We have no clue how many are infected , we only know how many have been tested.

  5. John A

    According to this site and media statement there are more than 4200 cases and 18 deaths have been recorded up to yesterday. No figures on new cases or latest deaths.

    Also not stated: Current reading on the National Hysteria-meter.

    My estimate: Off the dial!

  6. Chris M

    We have no clue how many are infected , we only know how many have been tested.

    Sure. Australia has among the highest rate of testing per pop. in the world (eg SA was the highest until recent days some countries overtook) so there is a pretty good handle on anyone with symptoms. Asymptomatic percentage is guesswork at this stage until / if widespread antibody tests were to happen.

    Death rate only seems to go to Italy levels when hospitals get overrun so they are trying to prevent that happening, especially given how little spare capacity our hospital system has even in normal times.

  7. Peter Finch

    I think Steve’s question was rhetorical with a tad of wit, i.e. why so much ado over so low a mortality rate, albeit such mortalities are such a shame for the deceased and their family. Now in regard to an earlier comment on Steve needing to be critical of Trump I think we all know Trump what Trump is, in particular the right man for the job as currently needed. Trump is not an angel nor do we expect him to be, we expect him to be Trump. There are aspects of Trump’s behaviour we may not like but there are also aspects of his behaviour that we may like. I like to read Steve’s positive comments regarding Trump simply because there is so much lying crap out there about Trump. I’m sure someone has done a study to determine positive vs negative press on Trump, useful to see but I would think it around 90% negative and 10% positive. Simply amazing that he does so well with such craven forces against him.

  8. poider what’s your point in fact what is the point of you full stop? Inane random comments it’s great.

  9. Again, you need to understand the actual cause of death. Did Wuhan Virus contribute, or was it the sole reason?

  10. nb

    yarpos, #3385665, posted on March 31, 2020 at 12:04 pm asks:
    ‘ “BTW how many fatalities have there been in Australia so far?” and has the overall death rate in Australia deviated from trend even by a miniscule amount? About 13,000 people die every month in Australia.’

    You’ll never see an answer to the question ‘has the overall death rate in Australia deviated from trend?’. Doubtless any miniscule amount will be well within normal variation, and probably a lesser increase than during a standard flu season.

    I await Norman Swan’s presentation of these facts. Oh, wait, the ABC is not in the business of facts, is it?

  11. Colonel Crispin Berka

    Had another pop their clogs this morning, bringing Australia’s total to 19.
    As a percentage of closed cases we have had a 7% death rate, making it 70 times deadlier than the flu, or you can take deaths as percent of cumulative cases two weeks ago, making it 3% or 30 times worse than normal flu.

    Before you go suggesting that perhaps quarantining international arrivals and only the general public aged over 60 should have been the next step, remember the death rates we’ve seen so far is what happens when all the severe (but NOT critical/ICU) patients get oxygen and a nurse/staff to get them through. As bad as the death rate has been, that’s when there is enough healthcare resource available. If you let the infection spread amongst under 60s as normal then many of the younger people who would get the severe form and would normally live through it will instead die due to lack of oxygen bottles and care.

    You have to look at other countries like South Korea or Italy to see what CFR you get when hospitals are overwhelmed. South Korea was 1.3% overall or 13 times worse than the flu, which was due to a lot of testing boosting the denominator. South Korea has probably the most accurate figures anywhere in the world because of the extent of testing they did. On that figure, business as usual in Australia leads to 250,000 deaths over 5 months.

  12. Nothing but lies, damn lies and statistics.

  13. Colonel Crispin Berka

    Sure, that’s possible, bemused.
    On the other hand, He who refuses to do arithmetic is doomed to talk nonsense.

  14. egg_

    business as usual in Australia leads to 250,000 deaths over 5 months.

    I call bullshit.

  15. business as usual in Australia leads to 250,000 deaths over 5 months.

    Sounds like something a climate scientist (barf) would say about climate projections. “Business as usual will lead to 8DegC T increase blah blah”.
    Back at the turn of the 19th century, authorities were terribly worried about the mountains of horse and ox shit in the streets of growing cities and towns. They couldn’t scoop up the shit quick enough to alleviate the dangers of disease not to mention the intolerable flies. They also said “business as usual blah blah”.

    It’s NEVER business as usual is it? Human ingenuity almost always comes to the fore in times of need. Like those dirty fossil fuel burning, polluting Ford Model T’s that came along just in time for those authorities not to worry so much about horse shit any longer.

    It seems increasingly likely that a very cheap (US$20 for a 5 day course) cure is at hand and has already saved hundreds of lives including some aged over 70.
    It’s OK to PLAN for the worst, but jumping feet first and ACTING immediately for the worst will usually end up with the cure being worse than the disease.
    That’s what we’re seeing now.
    Madness.

  16. Docket62

    As a percentage of closed cases we have had a 7% death rate, making it 70 times deadlier than the flu, or you can take deaths as percent of cumulative cases two weeks ago, making it 3% or 30 times worse than normal flu.

    I call bullshit as well.

    Ive had this, a dozen people i know have had this – none have been tested, none will. So in reality the infection rate is the denominator. If the infection rate is 10X the test rate then the likely percentage is around…. THE SEASONAL FUCKING FLU.

    Italy Lie about their numbers and have even admitted to apportioning deaths to COVID where there has been no testing simply because it was expedient to do so. The New York mayor? – looking for Fed handouts so pumps the numbers as does the other miscreant – California. Spain is a basket case and reports in the same way as Italy.

    Australian deaths… FFS – every single one of them had multiple other issues that would have killed them if an ant walked over them. Our hospital system is at 10% of capacity and is expanding rapidly as a just in case which means they should be able to cope with the coming flu season – which should be reduced by social distancing being continued.

    .. and draw breath

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