Scott Morrison has been played for a fool

NSW police officers are raiding parks and public spaces, threatening to fine people who are otherwise obeying social-distancing laws and ordering them to return home in a major escalation of draconian COVID-19 protocols that go ­beyond the intention of the federal government.

Having botched the handling of the cruise ship Ruby Princess, a fiasco that unleashed more than 200 confirmed cases of corona­virus into the community, NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian and her police commissioner on ­Tuesday initiated a crackdown on people in public spaces.

The heavy-handed approach has stunned federal officials and goes beyond the conditions placed on residents in other states; it also runs counter to the spirit of the ­national cabinet position announced by Scott Morrison on Sunday.

Source: The Australian

Looks to me that the unconstitutional “National Cabinet” was a ruse for the federal government to announce all the much-loathed rules about home detention, and then to have the federal taxpayer pick up the cost of saving the State public health systems from collapsing.

All this being announced before the federal Parliament had an opportunity to discuss anything.

Then we read that a policeman is in charge of deploying the ADF:

[NSW Police Commissioner Michael Fuller] on Tuesday flagged an intention to use the defence force to deal with the removal of nine cruise ships floating off the coast of NSW.

The cruise liners are refusing to abide by a federal government edict that they return to their port of origin, as they would not be given permission to disembark. Mr Fuller said the ships had initiated appeals against the government’s decision, with a result to be known in coming days.

He flagged calling in the Royal Australian Navy if required.

Do we even have constitutional government in Australia?

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44 Responses to Scott Morrison has been played for a fool

  1. rickw

    What sort of Politicians and Police do we have for them to have gotten this out of control within two weeks?

  2. a reader

    Fuller is finished. I feel like he has overstepped the mark massively. Social distancing I get. Having the police chase people who dare to sit on a park bench…by themselves?

  3. C.L.

    LOL.
    Fuller is in charge of the armed forces now?
    No, mate. The Governor-General is the C-in-C. Your job is to catch purse snatchers and roll the occasional drunk to supplement your income.
    What a cock head.

  4. Infidel Tiger

    For once it’s good to see the denizens of the eastern suburbs getting fucked over.

    Now they know how westies feel every day.

  5. Infidel Tiger

    We need more of this lunacy so people wise up to what’s happening.

    A fake crisis must never be wasted.

  6. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    He flagged calling in the Royal Australian Navy if required.

    Umm, at which point the Governor General will politely, ever so politely, tell him to fuck off.

  7. Infidel Tiger

    I have heard a rumour that recreational boating is being banned.

    Wtf!!!

  8. Hay Stockard

    Navy got any war canoes working at the moment? I mean fit for sea?

  9. Rob

    This is every bully-boy politician and policeman’s nirvana.
    Is drone surveillance of Australian citizens to become the new norm?
    And since when have the police been responsible for controlling international shipping movements within our coastal borders.

  10. EvilElvis

    I have heard a rumour that recreational boating is being banned.

    Under threat of Naval gazing!

  11. Hay Stockard

    Where does Fuller buy hats big enough to fit his fat head?

  12. Chris M

    What are the international maritime rules regarding the cruise ship situation? They can be supplied with bunker fuel and food at least but refusing disembarkation seems entirely reasonable. If they insist it could be charged at $10,000 per passenger per day and quarantined at Pinchgut? Or split between parliament house and police HQ?

  13. Hay Stockard

    It’s the State premiers that own the over the top totalitarian. Let loose the inner fascist they cry. And no one seems to be prepared to do anything. I ignore the sickles despots.

  14. NoFixedAddress

    Do we even have constitutional government in Australia?

    and I laughed and laughed and laughed.

  15. Rayvic

    Gladys has gone to extremes by effectively banning two people playing golf together on spacious golf courses, thus denying pairs the opportunity to exercise in the fresh air.

    She is penalising the community for her government’s gross negligence in not testing disembarking Ruby Princess passengers.

  16. Hay Stockard

    Rayvic,
    That’s the Public Service way. Reward the guilty and punish the innocent. Kafkauesque.

  17. tombell

    well, in some sort of order:-

    1. Scott Morrison is a fool;
    2. Not sure when we last had “Constitutional ” government in the sh*thole we call home. Over half a century at least.

    Ever since the States gave up taxing power to the Feds, it’s been downhill. Sure ww1 & 2 maybe gave some reason to centralize things pro tem. But the state cockroaches loved it. Blame the Feds for everything. But hey, our pay needs to keep going up. Ask Danny boy. And as for the Feds, the f*ckers who go there love the power. And the money’s ok too – but you make way more off the books. You know, insolvent piggeries sold for millions etc. And life as a lobbyist for PRC or in the UN or whatever is pretty good too. Particulalry if you’re still picking up a fat cheque every months from the schmucks who voted you in….What’s not to like?

  18. WDYSIA

    Scott Morrison is a fool.
    I wonder which side Andrew Robb is rooting for, these days.

  19. Petros

    Morrison was born with a silver spoon in his mouth and promoted way beyond his level of experience and competence. We are now enduring the end result. He makes Jacinta Ardern look like a great leader.

  20. Real Deal

    Fuller’s tyres have been pumped up all week by Ray Hadley on 2GB who yesterday was sounding even more hysterical over this. He was even happy to throw his golfer mates under a bus supporting the ban.

    If people can’t get out quite safely into parks, beaches, golf courses and cycleways there will be mental breakdowns and suicides. As the NSW government has already shown disregard for its own citizens lives over Ruby Princess, using jackbooted goons to fine and arrest its own citizens will be like taking candy from a baby.

    Most are good coppers but they too are being harassed into submission by those who love to dominate.

  21. Crossie

    Rayvic
    #3386908, posted on April 1, 2020 at 12:13 am
    Gladys has gone to extremes by effectively banning two people playing golf together on spacious golf courses, thus denying pairs the opportunity to exercise in the fresh air.

    She is penalising the community for her government’s gross negligence in not testing disembarking Ruby Princess passengers.

    I can understand there may not have been the means to test them all at the time however, there must have been a fairly senior border control bureaucrat (federal) who gave the go ahead for disembarkation without arranging quarantine in the city hotels as is happening now.

    They had the Diamond Princess example in Japan to give them a context yet nobody thought we might need a protocol for cruise ships seeing as how many are operation around Australia. Our best and brightest are not.

  22. Crossie

    If people can’t get out quite safely into parks, beaches, golf courses and cycleways there will be mental breakdowns and suicides. As the NSW government has already shown disregard for its own citizens lives over Ruby Princess, using jackbooted goons to fine and arrest its own citizens will be like taking candy from a baby.

    A huge number of passengers, if not the majority, on the Ruby Princess were NSW residents as is the case with most cruises starting in Sydney, it’s not a case of us against them. What is startling is that there was no disaster plan for any of this. Every place I have worked had to have a disaster plan that is periodically reviewed.

  23. Crossie

    WDYSIA
    #3387044, posted on April 1, 2020 at 6:27 am
    Scott Morrison is a fool.
    I wonder which side Andrew Robb is rooting for, these days.

    Or Paul Keating and a whole conga line of Labor suckholes.

  24. one old bruce

    No mention of Bondi where the main police crackdown is happening in NSW, and also the main cluster of cases?

    Full of globe-trotting ‘backpackers’ and hipsters who are not Australian citizens, therefore not entitled to our Constitutional protections.

  25. Castle Wolfenstein

    He’s Fuller Sh**t.

  26. Yarpos

    Methinks Gladys and Michael are over compensating and trying to appear assertive and in control. Its a nice bit of “look! Squirrel! ” as while ever people are bitching about draconian laws they arent talking about the Ruby Princess.

  27. Crossie

    As for the lack of temperature screening at airports and cruise terminals until last weekend, perhaps it was difficult to source the thermometers seeing as how the Chinese government operatives in Australia stripped the supplies from Australian shops.

    I don’t usually subscribe to conspiracy theories but it’s hard not to see an act of war in these activities. The other possibility is that the Chinese government would have done anything than admit they had a problem on their hands. A lot of these supplies are produced in other Asian countries and they could have ordered bulk supplies from them but that would have alerted the world to a deepening crisis in China.

    For a communist government first, last, and only response to a crisis is to lie.

  28. Diogenes

    I have heard a rumour that recreational boating is being banned.

    The boating itself is not banned, but many councils have closed boat ramps as “they are places where people congregate” so unless you can carry your boat into the water, recreational boating is effectively banned

  29. Suburban Boy

    The National Cabinet is no more “unconstitutional” than the regular federal cabinet. Both are political committees which make political decisions but neither has any legal authority to implement or enforce those decisions.

    In the case of the federal cabinet, decisions are either implemented by individual ministers (where they have statutory power) or by the Federal Executive Council, which comprises two or more ministers under the presidency of the Governor-General.

    The National Cabinet makes decisions but they are implemented by heads of government through the legal formalities of each government. When the PM announces a decision of the National Cabinet he is only informing the public of the political decisions that have been reached and that are expected to be implemented through the legal mechanisms of each government. His pronouncements in a press conference have no force of law, but it is useful to know what has been decided, isn’t it?

  30. Michael Lewis

    Isn’t the Police Minister in NSW a “sort of policeman” as he declared to some hapless person last year? Wasn’t he “almost stood down”. Didn’t he take a holiday in London as the news of the Chinese epidemic started to arrive in the West? And when he bleats on TV why am I reminded more of Joe Bliden than Donald Trump? And as for Gladys, I used to think that she was a sage person who considered all matters, but now I see her as the person whose policies are the same as the latest twitter opinions or Ray Hadley’s demagoguery. And for his highness, the Police Commissioner – maybe he’s higher than that – his holiness – he’s revealed as someone who acts first and thinks (if that’s the appropriate verb) last. And now he’s higher still, Ruler of the Queen’s Navy!

  31. Eyrie

    “I have heard a rumour that recreational boating is being banned.”

    Already done in the land of the Long White Teeth, IT. Seems you might put the volunteer resce service at risk of catching the Kung Flu if you get into trouble.

  32. Eyrie

    Thread title should read: Scott Morrison being played for the fool that he is.

  33. Robber Baron

    I’m just listening to Neil Mitchell on 3AW. He is a big supporter of the government classes. He said that in “emergencies like this we need to be in a dictatorship” or something very similar. The man has no wisdom, no knowledge of history or appreciation of freedom.

    Australia has changed. I doubt we will get our freedoms back.

  34. John Bayley

    I doubt we will get our freedoms back.

    We didn’t have all too many of those left in any case.
    With ‘the people’ clamouring for ever more socialism, it is inevitable that there will be some ‘collateral damage’ along the road leading to Veneztralia.
    Being arrested for going for a swim at a public beach is a small price to pay, seeing that it’s all for ‘the greater good’.
    Comrades.

  35. As to whether the National Cabinet is unconstitutional, Suburban Boy’s lucid explanation gets it. Co-operation at this level won’t become anywhere near permanent (and nor should it in a federation).

    A worry ahead lies in the extraordinary resort to law making by regulation. It is not just the scope of it. Regs are disallowable by parliament (if this us allowed by the law that empowers their making), but control is useless if parliament does not meet. This technique for governing will be cited as a precedent by those wishing to deal with other issues, such as so-called ‘climate emergency’.

  36. Hay Stockard

    Crosstie,
    For the umpteenth time. I was the STATE HEALTH DEPARTMENT NOT BORDER PROTECTION that let the ship disembark. Have you got it now?

  37. Peter Finch

    “I can understand there may not have been the means to test them all at the time however, there must have been a fairly senior border control bureaucrat (federal) who gave the go ahead for disembarkation without arranging quarantine in the city hotels as is happening now.”

    Crossie’s comment above unfortunately highlights a gross misunderstanding (I could use a more accurate term but leave it to your imaginations) of maritime procedures. Do some study on the maritime law requirement for a ship’s first entry into a nation’s port even for an Australian flagged vessel that has visited other nation’s ports. A ship’s master has to fly the yellow quarantine flag and make the vessel available for inspection prior to acceptance by the port authority.

    The ABF is responsible for customs, the NSW health department is responsible for approving the health of those disembarking (based on the ship’s master and ship’s doctors advice) and the Power Authority is responsible for approving berthing and disembarkation. Also the federal minister of Health Greg Hunt issued an order preventing disembarkation from any visiting vessel the day before this incident. So point you finger at the NSW government not the head of the ABF.

  38. Peter Finch

    replace Power Authority with Port Authority.

  39. a reader

    I keep wanting to whinge about Gladys and how she’s a terrible old scold. Then I think the alternative is Jodie McKay and all I can think is oh dear…imagine having SuperNanny in charge

  40. Crossie

    The ABF is responsible for customs, the NSW health department is responsible for approving the health of those disembarking (based on the ship’s master and ship’s doctors advice) and the Power Authority is responsible for approving berthing and disembarkation. Also the federal minister of Health Greg Hunt issued an order preventing disembarkation from any visiting vessel the day before this incident. So point you finger at the NSW government not the head of the ABF.

    OK, I stand corrected.

  41. Crossie

    Already done in the land of the Long White Teeth,

    That is funny.

  42. Speedbox

    rickw
    #3386804, posted on March 31, 2020 at 10:51 pm
    What sort of Politicians and Police do we have for them to have gotten this out of control within two weeks?

    Yeah, frightening, isn’t it. Behold, the future.

    Robber Baron
    #3387224, posted on April 1, 2020 at 9:35 am
    Australia has changed. I doubt we will get our freedoms back.

    Many things will undoubtedly be rolled back – but whether all remains to be seen. Disturbing is the precedent and I refer you to rickw’s comment above.

  43. Lilliana

    I wonder which side Andrew Robb is rooting for, these days.
    Or Paul Keating and a whole conga line of Labor suckholes.

    Well if Shaoquett Chaher Moselmane is any example not us. His slogan is ‘putting people first’. He needs to be a bit more specific.

  44. Chris

    One thing is clear – Tony Abbott has questions to answer
    (/ABC snark)

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