Tuesday Forum: March 31, 2020

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  1. DrBeauGan

    I’ve worked out why numbers is in the universe. It’s so we will better appreciate Cassie and Johno.

  2. bespoke

    incoherent rambler
    #3387113, posted on April 1, 2020 at 8:21 am
    Rise and shine fellow inmates!

    Looks like the minders didn’t lock them last night, shame.😎

  3. calli

    I wondered when the j-w = Chinese equivalence would surface.

  4. Twostix

    Boris and numbers – two old commos love the current situation very much.

    Pretty creepy.

  5. NoFixedAddress

    Jellybean

    Which is your blind, eye the left or the right?

  6. Cassie of Sydney

    “calli
    #3387125, posted on April 1, 2020 at 8:30 am
    I wondered when the j-w = Chinese equivalence would surface.”

    I am just laughing Calli….he really is a putrid disgrace.

  7. Crossie

    Johno
    #3387104, posted on April 1, 2020 at 8:13 am
    The thing with this prick that really annoys me is that he is quite rich. His father was a Professor of Languages in Jordan and an Ambassador,he owned multiple houses,units and farms.

    They all are, from every country including China. Only the rich can send their children to study abroad. In my university whose student population is 30% international the older cars in the car park belong to staff, the prestige cars are always the students’.

  8. Knuckle Dragger

    It’s a takeover! The junta is pulling the strings!

    You were allllll duped, you fools. You didn’t even see it coming! Nobody put up a fight (no, I’m not going to) and NOBODY is punching on with baton and shield-wielding soldiers in the street! Why not?

    I, and only I could have foretold this! And I did! My prophecy has come to pass! Nobody listened to me! The black helicopters ahahahahaaaaaa!!!! I toooooold you…….

    ‘Ah. There you are, sir. You seem to have finished your pudding. Let me help you back to your room.’

  9. calli

    I presume the next step is spruiking internment/extermination camps. We neeeeed them to rid us of the menace.

    Or maybe just some roving gangs to show ‘em what’s what.

    Oh. That’s right. We aren’t and we don’t.

  10. Johno

    Wow, just fucking Wow, Sniffy Jack. Did you think that one up yourself? Stand back people a few of these He Brew, non bat eating, non TP stealing, non hoarding ladies and gentlemen are about to unload on a vicious widdle commo twit.

  11. bespoke

    Hahaahaaha! KD I wish I had your skill.

    Life is good

  12. shatterzzz

    In case you missed it ………..

    NSW IS OFFICIALLY Stage 3 *LOCKDOWN*, as of 12am on 31 March 2020 until 29 June 2020 (90 days) unless the order is revoked earlier.

    This means it is ILLEGAL to leave your home without a *reasonable excuse*, unless you:

    1️⃣ Travel to work or education if you cannot do it from home;
    2️⃣ Need essential items like food, goods or services;
    3️⃣ EXERCISE!
    4️⃣ Medical or caring reasons.

    ALSO:
    5️⃣ You must not gather in a public place of more than 2 people;

    EXCEPT:
    6️⃣ If you are with members of the same household;
    7️⃣ Gatherings essential for work.

    ❗️WARNING❗️: If you fail to comply with a direction and break the rules you are liable for:
    ⛔️ $11,000 Fine, or
    ⛔️ 6 months in prison, or
    🛑 BOTH!

    The law is set out in the Public Health (COVID-19 Restrictions on Gathering and Movement Order) 2020.

  13. Peter the old fossil

    I also didn’t mention that my bride is being treated through St Vincents, not Toowoomba Base.

    So, two hospitals then, not just one. And one of them the main hospital for the region. The other one – a private hospital no less – where your wife was treated.
    And with all that capacity available you use it to compare Toowoomba to the rest of Australia?
    You really are a hopeless case.

  14. Twostix

    I bet if I tried I could get Boris to say that it should be illegal to question or critisise the government at this time.

    You know he wants it.

    The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree!

  15. Excuse me, gone for a while, time for my medication and a nice lie down.

  16. Johno

    Come on girls, I know he is a lame,ghey old commo, don’t just laugh at the fatuous poonce, get stuck in. High heels and all.

  17. win

    Spot on Calli. Rudds GFC package boosted the chinses economy whilst destroying his own. Morrison doing the same thing. dear God. When will a LNP government support ,innovative hard working Australians to start up and compete with a rapacious Chinese government.and the laws and determination
    to protect jobs from vindictive politically motivated Trade Unions.

  18. calli

    So, two hospitals then, not just one.

    Like here, lots of services provided. We are very fortunate.

    Less fortunate are rural areas without much at all. I can understand why they are apprehensive about people coming in for the holidays and possibly creating a cluster that can’t be treated if it goes pear shaped. Our population virtually doubles in school holidays, and I’m wondering how the virus can be kept at its current extra-low level.

  19. NoFixedAddress

    Seeing as all this Stage 3 is for public health protection I wonder when they will start impounding cars to protect us from climate change?

    and I laughed and laughed and laughed.

  20. Knuckle Dragger

    This is great.

    I thought the old ‘it’s a short step to the gas chambers’ routine was just for people who called retards retards.

    Now it’s for describing half a dozen dogbox-residing scared of sunlight endomorphs who would, if you believe this sort of thing march 1.2 billion Bat People into 40 x 8s for the final railway ride.

  21. So, two hospitals then, not just one.

    No – three actually.
    St Andrews is just down the road.
    The point is, very few people are immediately at risk through disruptions to normal hospital services in Australia at the moment. When you consider what has happened in Italy, Spain, and now the US, it would be lunacy not to prepare. It’s Risk Management 101.
    Incidentally, delays in the public system through underfunding have long been a feature of the medical system in this country. I guess you can’t use that particular meme to belt the authorities with in the current environment, so it’s conveniently ignored here.

  22. DrBeauGan

    The thing about the universe is that for nearly fourteen billion years I wasn’t in it because I hadn’t been born. And in a relatively short time I won’t be in it because I shall be dead, a time which will last a lot longer than fourteen billion years. But very briefly, I’ve been alive and able to see and even understand a tiny bit of the universe. It’s a wonderful, astonishing gift I’ve been given. I marvel at it every day.

    This is why abortion is wicked. It denies that wonderful gift of simply being alive.

  23. Cassie of Sydney

    Here’s one good old blood l*bel the racist from Toowoomba believes…

    Jooos pour bleach down the throats of Pallie women.

    Anyone else remember how the he actually believed that good old fashioned blood l*bel?

  24. Cassie of Sydney

    “This is why abortion is wicked. It denies that wonderful gift of simply being alive.”

    Liberty quote.

  25. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘The thing about the universe is that for nearly fourteen billion years I wasn’t in it because I hadn’t been born. And in a relatively short time I won’t be in it because I shall be dead, a time which will last a lot longer than fourteen billion years. But very briefly, I’ve been alive and able to see and even understand a tiny bit of the universe. It’s a wonderful, astonishing gift I’ve been given. I marvel at it every day. ‘

    Thank you DBG, thank you Cats and thank you Sinc. One reason why I’m here.

    Now THAT’s good.

  26. Boambee John

    Received our first Woolworths seniors assist home delivery this morning.

    As Lizzie commented, navigating their website can be a challenge at first, but that should become easier with practice. The delivery is in a five hour bracket, we ended up with 0500 to1000. We had a text last night to confirm our delivery would occur, and a text shortly before arrival. The real pain was having to be up before 0500 to be ready, the actual delivery was around 0645.

    The only things we missed out on were toilet paper (surprise) and kitchen paper. What we have noticed is the disappearance of Kleenex and Sorbent paper products grom Woolworths. Only Quilton or generic brands now seem to be available.

    Have others noticed this? If so, I suspect that the manufacturers might have big (and higher priced) contracts with somewhere else. No prize for guessing! This could be a result of Woolworths’ practice of screwing down what they pay suppliers, thus causing them to look elsewhere for more profitable contracts. Coles might be having similar problems.

  27. Fisky, re Chinese hospitals, can you please tell us which hospitals are in QLD?

    Anyone else know?

  28. calli

    No high heels here, Johno.

    The comparison was inevitable and unsurprising, and quite possibly a neat little talking point on particular social networks. I often do the “substitution” when it seems a specific race/creed is being vilified – it makes a handy test.

    And then it falls down on one very simple criteria. No one is advocating ghettos or imprisonment or beatings or death or anything else of that nature. It is a simple observation of activities/attitudes and whether they fit with our own culture or enhance it or damage it.

    And keep in mind that behind the real people with their hopes and dreams and lives in a new country sits a bloated, ruthless and ambitious world power holding the world to ransom by virtue of their industrial monopoly.

  29. Farmer Gez

    Numbers.

    I have no issue with Chinese people at all. It’s their system of government that I detest. The behaviour of their citizens is symptomatic of heavy handed totalitarian rule. This breeds a lack of trust in your neighbour and the knowledge that any misstep from the party line will have dire consequences for yourself and your family.

    There is a need for huge reform in the cultural food and agricultural practices in China. The epidemics that arise from China are a historical fact and not propaganda. They have not put in place quarantine and hygiene measures that mostly ensure disease free food production that you and your family are a beneficiary of in Australia and other advanced economies.

    This lack of trust in their own system is why the demand for ‘clean and green’ product from Australia is so highly valued by the wealthy and educated Chinese population.

    The export of retail products by the Chinese diaspora is another symptom of this mindset. Enterprising types have built a business model around this demand which is unsurprising as is our governments lack of action to monitor the trade.

  30. MatrixTransform

    oh well, it’s back to Babylon for me this morning

    somebody else will have to mortein that blowfly

  31. Leigh Lowe

    You heard it here first, folks, from the Oracle of Toowoomba.
    Anyone who criticises the Chinese is a Nazi.

  32. Twostix

    Italy, Spain, and now the US, it would be lunacy not to prepare. It’s Risk Management 101.

    Italy, Spain and New York.

    Never Hong Kong, South Korea and Japan.

    Weird right.

  33. Cassie of Sydney

    Don’t know whether to laugh or cry…

    “Rugby’s darkest day came with a resounding thud, leaving most of its workers unemployed for the next three months as the game faces a crippling $120 million loss in revenue this year due to the COVID-19 crisis.

    Around 140 staff members at Rugby Australia were left in shock after chief executive Raelene Castle announced on Tuesday that 75 per cent of them would be stood down from April 1 until June 30.

    Castle read a prepared five-minute statement to her employees, then directed them to speak to their individual managers regarding their temporary job losses. Many of their questions could not be answered.

    Soon followed the culls at Australia’s four Super Rugby franchises; nearly all employees either stood down, or given drastically reduced hours and wages.

    RA and the NSW Waratahs, Queensland Reds, Brumbies and Melbourne Rebels will be reliant on the Australian Government’s JobKeeper bailout package, allowing employers to claim $1500 per fortnight for each employee for up to six months in an attempt to buffer the economic fallout of the coronavirus.

    But the game’s ongoing loss of revenue due to cancelled games has left some employees resigned to never returning to work in rugby.

    RA also spoke to players’ union RUPA on Tuesday and will ask Australia’s 192 professional players to sacrifice a significant amount of their pay to keep the game alive.

    Castle said if no Super Rugby or Test matches can be played this year, RA faces a “worst-case scenario” of $120 million in lost revenue. And there is no broadcast deal secured beyond this year.

    “Our extensive modelling shows that as a code, we could lose up to $120 million in revenue should it not be possible for any rugby to be played in 2020,” Castle said.

    “Of course, that is the worst case scenario, and we are very hopeful that we can recommence the Super Rugby season and domestic Wallabies Test matches at some point this year.

    “The measures we will implement from April 1, although extremely painful, are necessary to ensure the sport remains financially viable and to ensure that we are able to come out the other side of this global crisis, fully-operational and ready to throw everything into the rebuild. It is our priority to keep all of our valued team connected and engaged through this period.

    “We shared with the Rugby Union Players Association today the breadth of our cost-cutting including the standing down of 75 per cent of our staff. We will work closely with RUPA to reach an agreement which is appropriate given this unprecedented situation.”

    However, it’s clear RUPA is still frustrated by the lack of transparency from RA regarding the financial specifics.

    “Australia’s professional rugby union players are still waiting on detailed financial information from Rugby Australia after talks in Sydney on Wednesday, still not provided after three weeks of requests,” RUPA chief Justin Harrison said.

    “Although RA provided no assurances, RUPA looks forward to the opportunity to assess that information in the near future.”

    Castle has taken a 50 per cent salary reduction of her annual $840,000 wage, and her remaining 15-team executive staff across the game at least a 30 per cent salary reduction.

    All RA board directors have agreed to defer their director’s fees.

    Meanwhile, Queensland Rugby Union chief executive David Hanham, who is taking a 40 per cent pay cut, chose a different course and said all 60-plus staff at the QRU would be offered employment albeit with many to work drastically reduced hours.

    “Due to the flexibility of the Government’s JobKeeper regulations, the QRU is now able to offer our loyal staff employment and a sense of purpose which is a very positive message,” Hanham said.

    Coach Brad Thorn will run the Reds’ program on reduced pay while Hanham stressed “the viability of our clubs” was one of the critical goals.

    “Queensland rugby has been around since 1882 and we’ll be around for generations to come by getting over this bridge together as one in the next six months,” Hanham said.

    Hanham said the damage to the QRU would be “close to $15 million in lost revenue over the next six-to-eight months.”

  34. Knuckle Dragger

    If – IF – there’s a trigger point in this country, it will come from the hypocrisy of our betters, and not before.

    The people – and particularly country people – will go through horrible privations if they have to. But only if they don’t see their allegedly highly knowledgeable, highly educated people they (or most of them) voted to lead them flout the laws they put in place for the little people.

    It won’t be protests in the street though. That shit’s for the tourists. It’ll be much worse than that, and it won’t be a couple of manbunned sockless beardy freaks wandering about the gunshops they’ll need to be concerned about.

  35. Gab

    Have others noticed this? If so, I suspect that the manufacturers might have big (and higher priced) contracts with somewhere else. No prize for guessing!

    Yes and had similar thoughts to yours.

  36. calli

    Castle has taken a 50 per cent salary reduction of her annual $840,000 wage, and her remaining 15-team executive staff across the game at least a 30 per cent salary reduction.

    All RA board directors have agreed to defer their director’s fees.

    *sob*

    Doin’ it tough.

  37. Peter the old fossil

    It appears that my pointing out the bleeding obvious isn’t going down well. Fair enough. I’ll stop.

    We can discuss it again in three month’s time when it is all over and everything is back to normal and all the draconian regulations have been repealed and the three million recently unemployed people are all back at work and no businesses ended up going broke and nobody committed suicide and the country isn’t bankrupt and Morrison has admitted it was all just a bit of an overreaction and we can all have a good laugh and you can all take turns rubbishing me.

    Deal?

  38. Leigh Lowe

    Cassie of Sydney

    #3387165, posted on April 1, 2020 at 8:54 am

    Don’t know whether to laugh or cry…

    “Rugby’s darkest day came with a resounding thud, leaving most of its workers unemployed for the next three months as the game faces a crippling $120 million loss in revenue this year due to the COVID-19 crisis.

    Jobs lost everywhere, but the Pavlosaurus is still pulling $420k to be CEO of Zero Inc.
    Nice.
    I do hope Izzy sends out a “God’s wrath” tweet.

  39. calli

    All RA board directors have agreed to defer their director’s fees.

    And keep in mind these are the people who pursued Israel Folau around the codes and the world in the hope of preventing him from getting another job in the sport he loves.

    Because he quoted verses from the Bible in a Tweet.

  40. Eyrie

    There is also St Andrews, a large private hospital, in Toowoomba. That makes 3.

  41. Tom

    Beautifully explained, Farmer Gez at 8.52am, for low-information simpletons like Numbers.

  42. notafan

    John I’ve seen both Kleenex and Sorbent on the shelves at local supermarkets.

    Sorbent is manufactured in Box Hill.

    I think shortages are now localised.

    When I looked yesterday there were several brands available though there were still big gaps.

    Very few people had tp in their trolleys.

    I think it’s starting to settle.

    If desperate local charity will have supplies.

  43. Gab

    Poor Megan Markle. Her thirst for recognition and headlining is quite sad. She has a child and a husband and yet she cannot settle down to a private life as mother and wife.

  44. duncanm

    I like your new banner..

    Well, certainly, there are those who are more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable. But again, truth be told, if you’re looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror. I know why you did it. I know you were afraid. Who wouldn’t be? War, terror, disease. They were a myriad of problems which conspired to corrupt your reason and rob you of your common sense. Fear got the best of you, and in your panic, you turned to the now high chancellor, Adam Sutler. He promised you order, he promised you peace, and all he demanded in return was your silent, obedient consent

  45. Peter the Old Fossil laments the absence of courage once a common Australian characteristic.

    Decades ago an old Dutch lady, who as a teenager ran messages for the Dutch Resistance, told me that in WW2 about 25% of Hollanders were not too upset about Nazi occupiers ruling their lives.

    Another Ex-Dutch lady in 1968(?) still shivered when she heard klaxons on Sydney’s ambulances as they resembled the sirens on Gestapo cars enroute to arrest someone.

  46. Boambee John

    Crank is a pejorative term used for a person who holds an unshakable belief that most of his or her contemporaries consider to be false.

    The seagull defines itself.

  47. notafan

    You are correct farmer Gez

    And the relative sizes of the Australian and Chinese markets means that the can really disrupt (and manipulate) domestic supply of desirable goods.

  48. Cassie of Sydney

    ” for low-information simpletons like Numbers”

    Very generous Tom…..very generous.

  49. Toilet paper is being used as ceiling insulation.

    No other explanation, except for maybe container loads being exported.

  50. Knuckle Dragger

    The punters allegedly at the helm of the NT overnight reiterated they don’t see the need to enforce this idiotic two-person rule.

    Finally.

  51. notafan

    I think it’s pretty obvious that Australian en masse cancellation of elective surgery was premature.

    Ongoing treatment for chemo patients appears to have been the universal exception.

    You simply cannot stop in the middle of a chemo course, which is far as I can see with my own eyes, is delivered in a specialised day surgery.

    So numbers again is simply wrong.

  52. Boambee John

    Incidentally, delays in the public system through underfunding have long been a feature of the medical system in this country.

    Aren’t hospitals a state responsibility? Perhaps talk to Palacechook and Trad?

  53. Knuckle Dragger

    I really think there are people in this country who want to see truckloads of diggers rumbling through the streets and welding people into their own homes. They want to see armoured personnel carriers, bombed up to the guts with .50 and .30 cals standing guard outside supermarkets.

    They want to see mountains of corpses, wrapped in curtains from their houses stacked at the tip and burning in a month-long, unlamented stinking pyre.

    And they want to see the black helicopters and food riots and queues of people in full hazmat gear waiting for the daily ration of pig fat.

    Because these people watch too much fucking MAFS, and they cannot exist without drama.

  54. Caveman

    Golf was our only hope ,to have the greens shut down.

  55. Decades ago an old Dutch lady, who as a teenager ran messages for the Dutch Resistance, told me that in WW2 about 25% of Hollanders were not too upset about Nazi occupiers ruling their lives.

    I’ve heard similar from French, except the percentage was higher (50%).
    “H1tler is not so bad, at least he doing something.”

    Incompetent government opens to door to maniacs

  56. NoFixedAddress

    Breaking News

    Victoria and NSW have banned entry to all Northern Territorians.

    “If they are not going to do what we do then they can keep on knocking but they can’t come in” stated Health spokespersons from each State, who can’t be named for Health reasons.

  57. notafan

    Japan might be in a little trouble.

    with a population older than even Italy’s we shall see.

    coronavirus cases spike in Japan after middling containment measures

  58. stackja

    1 April WHO to tell the truth on Wuhan virus.

  59. notafan

    There are plenty of people sympathetic to the ideology of the Nazis in both Holland and France.

    Lots of examples of people writing letters to expose resistance fighters and J ews in ww11 museums in France, for example.

  60. 1735099

    Never Hong Kong, South Korea and Japan.

    You can add Singapore to that.
    Part of the reasons that these countries, especially Singapore, are doing a better job of managing the crisis is a responsibility to community value that is a feature of most Asian cultures. Individualism takes a back seat.
    Singapore was well prepared as a result of experience with SARS in 2003.
    Wide-net surveillance, quarantine and isolation became embedded in their public health and social regulatory structures, and they are handing it very well.
    The restrictions that you cranks are bitching about are par for the course in Singapore.
    In fact, the restrictions in Singapore are so routine that the slight tightening that has occurred is scarcely noticed. All Singaporean junior schools have hygiene routines that have been in place since 2005, which includes every child’s temperature being taken when they arrive in the morning, and supervised hand washing routines interspersed between lessons throughout the school day.
    Schools have remained open in Singapore throughout, and my nephew, who works in the financial sector, is happily using public transport to get to work. A highly trained, well equipped and extremely diligent team of cleaners work in the trains during the day.
    Contrast their experience with Spain, Italy and now the USA.

  61. bespoke

    Many people have settled in Australia have set up little enclave representing the couture of the old country but this is the first time the system actively encourages Apartheid. Look at ‘Progressives’ like 1735099 happy to preach multiculturalism in a comparable back water and his reaction to Melbourne. Watch Border Force and see the bewildered entitled reaction when permanent residence are busted for contraband.

  62. areff

    We can discuss it again in three month’s time when it is all over

    Three months from now we’ll be in the depths of winter, aka flu season. With a locked-down population having remained largely unexposed to the Xi virus, it will flare up all over again, just worse most likely. More restrictions? More crushing economic damage? More ‘special police powers’? More permanently empty shops and stores?

    Listening in the background to 3AW’s Neil Mitchell, a man whose conceit is that he is the voice of commonsense Melbourne. He’s never encountered an intrusive state initiative he didn’t endorse, the most recent being yearly inspections, fees and council numpties entering your property to run tape measures over your swimming pool fence.

    Today, just now, he’s rabbiting on about the need to observe and strictly enforce Level Three idiocies, even as those measures sow the dragon’s teeth of even worse and more counterproductive restrictions to come.

    We’re circling the drain as the apparatchiks, flatterers, and teat drainers applaud the vortex and pull the chain again and again, always harder.

  63. rickw

    I think it’s pretty obvious that Australian en masse cancellation of elective surgery was premature.

    Bloke at identified as needing a couple of stents. All programmed in, then cancelled. He is taking things carefully. If he croaks, Ausgov and their completely retarded handling of the situation will be to blame.

  64. bespoke

    I’ll stop……Deal?

    No, you’ve never kept your word ever.

  65. Top Ender

    Around 140 staff members at Rugby Australia

    Who knew?

    What a joke.

  66. 1735099

    In reference to mentions upthread that regional and remote hospitals are under pressure because of the shutdowns.
    Lifeflight has just announced that it is basing three aircraft (one in Brisbane and two in Townsville) to evacuate Covid 19 patients who rock up at local hospitals.
    Their fixed wing fleet is one Bombardier Challenger and two Learjet 45s.

  67. Geriatric Mayfly

    Before dawn here, Jupiter is high in the eastern sky, Saturn and Mars are two bright stars below jupiter, only a few degrees apart and of similar brightness.

    Did you also spot Dark Emu?

  68. notafan

    KD

    Exactly

    We have our very own catallaxy drama queens!

  69. Trump presents 100,000 to 250,000 US deaths as the best case scenario.

  70. Mater

    If the clowns endorsing lockdown think that they can sit at home and have their shopping items delivered to their door, they should think again.

    Got this this morning from a Amazon.co.au supplier:

    Good afternoon,

    Thank you for your order with XXXXX, we have received the below statement from one of our Warehouses’ regarding COVID-19.

    ‘Further to the government’s measures, and as a precautionary measure with regard to the health of each of our employees, We have made the difficult decision to suspend the activity of our site immediately as of 30th March. As a result, the warehouse will be closed for orders with immediate effect until further notice’

    Unfortunately, this means that your order has not been dispatched and we are currently unable to ship this to you, you will have already received an email stating that this item has shipped, however this is not the case as unfortunately the warehouse closed before they could complete the dispatch of all orders.

    So it begins!
    I asked for a refund rather than wait until the lockdown is lifted. That company will not exist by that stage.

  71. 1735099

    So Numbers again is simply wrong.

    About what, precisely?
    That breast cancer treatment is not interrupted, or that some procedures not considered urgent have been postponed?

  72. rickw

    Trump presents 100,000 to 250,000 US deaths

    So much worse than the made up Chicom figures, USA fail!

  73. Tom

    The Twitter gotcha parrot reminds me I should turn on Fox News in the runup to Tucker at 11am find out what’s really going on in the US. Amazing there are idiots around the world like Monty who tell themselves CNN’s rolling Get Trump fantasy is reality.

  74. 1735099

    Trump presents 100000 to 250000 US deaths as best case scenario.
    Bit of a leap from “It’s just influenza- it will soon be over”.
    US deaths are now 500 more than China.

  75. rickw

    Trump presents 100,000 to 250,000 US deaths

    Not unrealistic in a country full of obese doughnut eaters.

  76. bespoke

    So cute 1735099 still thinks people take his quotes seriously.

  77. cohenite

    There is no justice. The troll’s wife gets cancer and the troll is still alive to vomit here.

    The troll is a commie; like all commies it lies, cheats and scorns anyone who is not a commie. It supports the chunks who gave us the virus and disparages the West. It is the enemy.

  78. notafan

    Callous much numbers

    I would have thought Roger’s son’s aggressive tumour was in fact, urgent.

    Also it’s not ‘some’ procedures, it’s all.

    Pretty tough for people experiencing serious pain.

    You are such a charitable compassionate man.

    I wonder who your role model is.

    I know Who it is not.

  79. rickw

    Trump presents 100000 to 250000 US deaths as best case scenario.
    Bit of a leap from “It’s just influenza- it will soon be over”.

    You do realise that this projection is exactly in line with the mortality rate for influenza – 0.1%.

  80. twostix

    Wide-net surveillance, quarantine and isolation became embedded in their public health and social regulatory structures, and they are handing it very well.
    The restrictions that you cranks are bitching about are par for the course in Singapore.

    Thanks.

    We increasingly see the true motivator for many of the virus concern trolls. Coincidentally they all share one thing in common: being 70 year old misfit boomer commo leftovers from the ’70’s.

  81. notafan

    Trump is certainly now predicting bigger numbers.

    China lie
    People die.

    But don’t worry it’s all #fakenews

    Just ask our resident expert on everything.

  82. vr

    coronavirus cases spike in Japan after middling containment measures

    May be they were suppressing the numbers to make things look better than they were in the event the Olympics went ahead as planned.

  83. notafan

    You cant on one hand say hey Singapore is doing great! and on the other ignore the fact it is because their methods are draconian.

  84. notafan

    Yes vr

    Lots of face-saving in Asia.

    Is it a thing?

  85. twostix

    All of America’s deaths will be in the rat infested, leftwing run, garbage-strewn bugman shitholes of New York and Las Angeles.

    Like Rome and Barcelona.

    All completely irrelevant to Australia.

    Behold your vast, towering plague ridden, garbage and rat-filled empire, resident Bugmen!

  86. Roger

    I would have thought Roger’s son’s aggressive tumour was in fact, urgent.

    Dealing with health bureaucracy at this time is a nightmare, nota.

    We’ve got his last MRI results which the specialist was waiting on.

    Short of getting in to another specialist privately – which we’re trying today – we’ll take that down to the hospital & try to see the ortho registrar.

  87. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Fox News was the only thing worth watching for news in America as this epidemic progressed while we were there. This would be even more the case now, and good viewing if you have it here in Australia too, as a counter to the MSM anti-Trump take on it all.

  88. Nick

    Have others noticed this? If so, I suspect that the manufacturers might have big (and higher priced) contracts with somewhere else. No prize for guessing! This could be a result of Woolworths’ practice of screwing down what they pay suppliers, thus causing them to look elsewhere for more profitable contracts. Coles might be having similar problems.

    I’ve noticed it. What were also heavily discounted products such as washing powder and dish washing tablets, are sold at their original, high, prices.

  89. Top Ender

    Did you also spot Dark Emu?

    Dark Emu, the Kiddy Version, or whatever’s it’s called, is up for the national prize at the Children’s Book Council awards.

    Doubtless it will win, and move on to rewriting history for children across Oz.

    “Who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.”

  90. Nick

    We increasingly see the true motivator for many of the virus concern trolls. Coincidentally they all share one thing in common: being 70 year old misfit boomer commo leftovers from the ’70’s.

    They hope that such strict Government controls will soon be applied towards ‘climate change’. You watch.

  91. Trump presents 100000 to 250000 US deaths as best case scenario.
    Bit of a leap from “It’s just influenza- it will soon be over”.

    You do realise that this projection is exactly in line with the mortality rate for influenza – 0.1%.

    Hint: this is not the last time Trump’s predicted death toll range will be ratcheted upwards.

  92. candy

    I reckon cancelling the knee and hip replacements is pretty harsh. People with bone scraping arthritis who can barely walk and have waited for some time to have some of the pain resolved. Still at home hoping Woolies can deliver or someone can help them around the house.

    Only 20 deaths and the latest a 92 year old lady. It’s hard to see the virus overrunning the country so that all the hospitals are distressingly overrun with virus patients. Maybe we are lucky to be spread out and lots of sunshine to kill bugs.

    And girt by sea – except for the Ruby Princess passengers who should have been taken to Christmas Island pronto. I don’t know what Mr Morrison has not used that facility more – turns out to be a good idea in the beginning to bring the stranded Australians in Wuhan to for quarantining. Quirky but correct. The cruiser passengers should be taken there.

  93. rickw

    Nota, from the article:

    While about 0.1% of people who get the flu die, the coronavirus’ global death rate is about 4.7%, based on the current numbers of cases and deaths.

    It’s the same article that I got the figure of 0.1% for flu.

    The question with Coronvirus is whether or not the divisor is right given the prevalence of nil symptoms.

  94. notafan

    Prayers for your success Roger.

  95. Old School Conservative

    Good luck Roger, I hope it all pans out for the best.
    And, without sounding trite, thoughts and prayers are coming your family’s way.

  96. Roger

    Thanks nota & oco & others last night.

    Will pop back in this evening, Deo volente.

  97. BorisG

    How hard is it for the governor of NY to give his socialist appointed , socialist head of the health department a call and tell her/him that we want the figures fudged to get Trump out?
    Any death you can attribute to Coronavirus , do it.

    Struth = Deranged. Conspiracy. Theorist.

    Sad.

  98. Boambee John

    US deaths are now 500 more than China.

    Bidding is still open on that bridge I have for sale!

  99. twostix

    You cant on one hand say hey Singapore is doing great! and on the other ignore the fact it is because their methods are draconian.

    You were hysterically emotionally blackmailing us about killing your Great-Nanna using Italy (where pigs roam the crowded city streets eating the from garbage piles – very relevant) when we already knew they were overcooking their numbers.

  100. Old School Conservative

    The cruiser passengers should be taken there.

    But Candy, all governments and agencies agree – no-one made the decision to let them ashore, no-one is to blame, no fault needs to be apportioned, no investigations are required.

  101. Gab

    Vic govt will be taking over private hospitals. Just announced. Heaven help us! This will not end well.

  102. bespoke

    US deaths are now 500 more than China.

    This is the dishonest use of statistics that the public get bombarded with daily

  103. notafan

    Yes Rickw

    But people may has also been asymptomatic carriers of flu viruses. We never checked

    And total deaths also matter. In fact they and total hospitalisations are all that really matters

    No-one, other than monty perhaps is arguing here that Australia might not have significant natural advantages to dealing with coronavirus.

    But claiming it’s not an actual pandemic and we should all be going about our business, including the frail elderly is imbecilic ( not you Twostix)

  104. Ruthm

    composing this waiting for my lift home after surgery and a night in the Wesley. Read abt Roger’s son in disbelief. I understand Cat 1 and 2 elective surgery is still going on in Qld. It might have been a bit quieter here yesterday, and the hospital is in lockdown, no visitors and a security guard to check you in, but otherwise much as normal. keep pushing Roger.

  105. Tom

    Hahaha! Just watching Trump taking on all comers from the rat-infested White House press corps — even CNN’s Jim Acosta, who, just now, wast trying to manufacture his one-millionth Get Trump soundbite gotcha this week. He sounds like like Monty and Numbers — a line-and-length lefty bully and coward.

  106. Old School Conservative

    Boris, you’ve got to stop Natasha from trying to criticise Struth.
    She’s giving you a bad name. It’s Badenov reading your stuff.

  107. The virus free people are on the new thread.

  108. Nationalisation of industry has begun, comrades! Raise a glass of Stoli for glorious victory of workers!

  109. BorisG

    Unlike many other states, NY has tested many people – about 200,000, similar to Australia. But unlike Australia, it found about 30% infected with the virus (1-2 % in Australia). Not sure who they test, but it looks like the entire NYC will be infected soon. Deaths in NY currently doubling in 3 days.

    A major catastrophy is unfolding in the world’s most iconic city.

  110. Sinclair Davidson

    A major catastrophy is unfolding in the world’s most iconic city.

    What? Melbourne?

  111. notafan

    I did nothing of the kind.

    I said my elderly mother and my sister were at risk, they are, and that we , as individuals, needed to be cautious and prudent.

    We are.

    I have also said repeatedly that those scoffing an international figures #justaflu and #fakenews while running socialist conspiracy and martial law theories are not helping.

    As for pigs roaming the streets of major Italian cities eating garbage

    OK

  112. notafan

    Yes Sinc

    It’s Melbourne.

    My favourite coffee place is closed and the one that has stayed open doesn’t make lemon slice.

  113. Unlike many other states, NY has tested many people – about 200,000, similar to Australia. But unlike Australia, it found about 30% infected with the virus (1-2 % in Australia). Not sure who they test, but it looks like the entire NYC will be infected soon. Deaths in NY currently doubling in 3 days.

    A major catastrophy is unfolding in the world’s most iconic city.

    Having been to New York I’m not surprised by those infection numbers. It has a population density, if you believe the internet, of 25 times that of Sydney.

    Extrapolating NY to Australia is like Apples and Oranges.

  114. Sinclair Davidson

    My favourite coffee place is closed and the one that has stayed open doesn’t make lemon slice.

    End. of. civilisation.

  115. Crossie

    calli
    #3387174, posted on April 1, 2020 at 9:00 am
    All RA board directors have agreed to defer their director’s fees.

    And keep in mind these are the people who pursued Israel Folau around the codes and the world in the hope of preventing him from getting another job in the sport he loves.

    Because he quoted verses from the Bible in a Tweet.

    God’s sense of humour is also known as irony and poetic justice.

  116. Rex Mango:

    Jimmy Webb, camp as a row of tents, but wrote good songs. He wrote Macarther Park, most annoying song ever, which won’t put on because it gets into your ear & you won’t sleep.

    There’s only one version of that song that’s worth playing – Richard Harris original.
    Still brings a tear to my eyes.
    So much innocence we’ve lost.
    The world was bright and new and all we could see was the opportunities and none of the costs.
    But the costs were there – weren’t they? We just chose to not see them.
    *snif*

  117. Crossie

    Sinclair Davidson
    #3387320, posted on April 1, 2020 at 10:29 am
    A major catastrophy is unfolding in the world’s most iconic city.

    What? Melbourne?

    Secondary city complex.

  118. You cant on one hand say hey Singapore is doing great! and on the other ignore the fact it is because their methods are draconian.

    I’m not ignoring that their methods are “draconian”.
    They work.
    If you have 28 minutes to spare, watch this.
    Singaporeans aren’t bitching and moaning because of first world problems like Amazon has stopped delivering and the gunshops are closed.
    They’re getting on with their lives and acting like grown up people.

  119. Crossie

    Sinclair Davidson
    #3387346, posted on April 1, 2020 at 10:44 am
    My favourite coffee place is closed and the one that has stayed open doesn’t make lemon slice.

    End. of. civilisation.

    End of civilisation was when Aldi stopped stocking my favourite hot chocolate sachets. No wonder coronavirus followed soon after.

  120. cohenite

    Stop lying troll; and FOAD.

  121. JC:

    …I mean the saving on a tank of petrol can only go so far.

    We are learning the cheapest tank of fuel is the one you don’t use.

  122. It has a population density, if you believe the internet, of 25 times that of Sydney.

    The problem is more than the population density.
    It’s a bugger of a place.
    People don’t talk – they bark at each other.
    The social stratification is glaringly obvious.
    The African-Americans are all in menial jobs, as are the Latinos.
    The Anglos in the financial district are mostly neurotic money grubbers, and the only people who feel secure enough to hold a conversation are tourists. Everybody’s out to stuff everybody else around in the interests of making a quick buck. It’s a sick and sorry place.
    In 2018 I travelled from New York to Washington to Havana.
    The capacity to make social connections increased progressively across the three cities.

  123. cohenite

    The troll is a commie; what a disgusting thing it is.

  124. bespoke

    They’re getting on with their lives and acting like grown up people–1735099.

    Says the boy who bitched about not having a ICU next door and complained his son couldn’t get a job close to home not that long ago.

  125. candy

    I don’t know Winston about MacArthur’s Park tune.

    The bit about the green icing flowing down and the cake in the rain, and not having the recipe again (oh no!)
    always seemed a bit too realistic to me. A cake.

  126. Stop lying troll; and FOAD.

    Where’s the lie?
    I linked to a documentary.
    If readers here took your advice (and Mater’s and Struth’s) they’d be no need to tell people to disappear and die.
    It would happen as a matter of course.
    Here’s a novel idea.
    Declare a discrete geographical segment of the country as a restriction-free zone.
    Fly all the non-compliers and whingers to that location, seal them in, and let them do their own thing.
    Let the survivors out after six months (subject to quarantine).
    That should keep everyone happy.
    Fraser Island’s nice this time of year, and the Tailor turn up in August.
    That’s only four months away.

  127. Infidel Tiger

    Thread’s dead.

    Move.

  128. Peter the old fossil

    Secondary city complex.

    Thanks for that clarification, Crossie.
    I thought the Doomlord must have meant “most moronic city”, and agreed with him.

  129. Chris

    ‘Ah. There you are, sir. You seem to have finished your pudding. Let me help you back to your room.’

    KD, you rock.
    That is pretty much how I laugh at my own revolutionary fervour…

  130. Chris

    Thread’s dead.

    Move.

    No, I am self-isolating in here. Move away 1.5 metres, and boil your head for 20 mins continuously.

  131. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Help a simple man out:

    Accusations of staking, wife beating, cutesy threats of gun violence, OK.

    Accusations of naughty shopping, bad

    I certainly will help you out on this, Bespoke. The ‘rules’ are those of simple truth and civility:

    Pointing out that certain behaviours here are tantamount to online stalking? That’s OK, an opinion about which some may wish to differ. Some may see it as simply childish of me for objecting or of the perps for doing it, for instance. Or humorous, as with the pile-on crazies here who think such things are ‘funny’.
    Wife beating? Never OK, and I haven’t a clue what your reference is here.
    Cutesy threats of gun violence? My invitation to Nick to take up denigration of my New Orleans clan with them and to leave me out of it? That’s OK, too. No voiced violence and a hypothetical. They would probably have offered to turn the other cheek and to pray for him while giving him a beer.

    But a blunt statement about a currently highly illegal activity of breaking a mandated quarantine in a very enclosed public environment, an action directly attributed to me with, furthermore, a claim that I admitted to performing it. NOT OK. It is an absolute untruth, direct slander if left to stand signal as an acceptable comment on this site and I thank Sinc for apparently deleting it.

    I also thank Nick for apologising for that recent post and his immediate recognition that he had made an error in comprehension and attribution and I have accepted his apology concerning that error. These things do happen and none of us is perfect on a fast-moving blog.

    Ellie, you may take note of this. Nick was not misapprehended by others (as you stated in a one-off comment last night in support I suppose of Nick as is your absolute right). Nick engaged in misapprehension. Two different things. In fairness, Nick at least believed in posting that he was correct.

    Storm in a teacup now though, and more to discuss here than this matter, which I hope is concluded now.

  132. Twostix:

    It’s almost like we’re being goaded by the government right now.
    It’s like they badly want the populace to react.
    What is going on here?

    That’s precisely what is happening – we are being tested, and the test will stop when we draw the line.
    The people can draw the line wherever they like.
    It can be drawn at gender reassignment surgery paid by the taxpayer, or it can be drawn at passing the NBN fiasco.
    Or, it can be with excessive taxation, or refusal to allow the selling off of our water supplies.
    Or even by confiscating our weapons, or allowing the Greens to become the defacto ruling party of Australia.
    Never forget though, the Globalists have done this because they think our rights can be wound back. They don’t see that we – the people – can deliver a bloody good belting across the snout and reset the social and economic levers to our advantage.
    It just requires we have the guts to stand up to them, and if we don’t, we will find that our agreement to these demands of the globalists won’t be the end of their demands, it will be the starting point of the next round.

  133. Geriatric Mayfly

    6.5 wobbly in Idaho at 10km. Enough to bring down a few hippy hovels.

  134. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    The capacity to make social connections increased progressively across the three cities.

    We need to pass this one over to the good Dr. Beaugan for informed comment on Havana. 🙂

  135. bespoke

    More words more selective memory more de-basing of meanings more entitlement blah!

    It was over but whatever.

  136. Nick

    Apparently casual hookups are now illegal. Lol

  137. Boambee John

    m0nty
    #3387311, posted on April 1, 2020 at 10:23 am
    Nationalisation of industry has begun, comrades! Raise a glass of Stoli for glorious victory of workers!

    That has always worked so well everywhere else, hasn’t it
    Gulags next?

  138. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    For some here I do suspect that good grammar and sound logic equals ‘entitlement’.

    But let it be. Interpretive memory is always arguable, so to each their own.

    Nevertheless, I’m no post-modernist, and facts are always facts in my neck of these woods.

  139. Confused old misfit:

    “A doctor and HIS husband” King and Queen of the shipboard prom no doubt.
    Knowledge a mile deep and 12 inches wide and an indication that there is something there else outside the norm.
    Add to that the “I’m a doctor so I must bre God” complex and we are well into the laws are for little people territory.

    You noticed that too?
    The world polarising into those who benefited from the Globalist/Collectivist cult, and those who pay for it.

  140. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Apparently casual hookups are now illegal. Lol

    Yes, it really is Stasiland. How do they intend to police that one?

    As soon as we are out of quarantine I want to take Hairy with me to collect Attapuss from my son to help carry to the car all of that cat’s many essential items, like his huge scratchy apparatus and his toys and litter tray and bags of litter and food etc. I suppose that would be three people together though? Not allowed?

    I can’t keep up with these regulations and that is exactly how they like it so they can pounce.

  141. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    6.5 wobbly in Idaho at 10km

    Handy for digging up those Idaho potatoes. Help for the food aid.

    That said, hope no great destruction and no-one was hurt.

  142. bespoke

    It doesn’t take much to expose a ‘Progressives’ authoritarian instincts especially one that’s trying to hide in plain site.

  143. zyconoclast

    San Diego Tunnel Task Force uncovers sophisticated cross-border drug tunnel under the US/Mexico border

    The tunnel extends for more than 2,000 feet underground from a warehouse in Tijuana, Mexico to a warehouse in the Otay Mesa area of San Diego. The tunnel has an average depth of 31 feet and is three-feet wide through most of the passageway.

  144. Delta A

    DrBeauGan
    #3387149, posted on April 1, 2020 at 8:45 am

    Beautifully written, Beaugy.

  145. Calli:

    All RA board directors have agreed to defer their director’s fees.
    And keep in mind these are the people who pursued Israel Folau around the codes and the world in the hope of preventing him from getting another job in the sport he loves.
    Because he quoted verses from the Bible in a Tweet.

    They have deferred their directors fee.
    Can I unpack that just a bit, Calli?
    To defer something means that you don’t get it right now, it’s just in the future. So their fees could be paid next week and still be ‘deferred’.
    What other fees do the directors get? Are there any other remunerations apart from the fees? Like travel/vehicle/sponsor discounts?
    We are used to people who virtue signal to blatantly lie.

  146. Cardimona

    A mate from my school days is a casual nurse at the Cairns Base Hospital.
    With all electives cancelled he hasn’t had a shift in 12 days.

  147. Cardimona

    I forget who inspired these three mini-missives but they all got a run in the regional paper today…

    Empty supermarket shelves, sudden business closures, government paying workers’ wages, dramatic curtailments of individual freedoms – how’s everyone enjoying their free trial of socialism? Xxx, Xxx

    x

    If only we’d put people arriving in Australia in supervised quarantine from January when we first learned China had a problem our vast saltwater moat would have kept us safe and our economy could be booming. Our leaders made the unforgivable mistake of trusting the UN WHO. The UN is run by remote-control from China and it has drifted a long way from its original remit. Yyy, Yyyy

    The Premier has declared an end to fun (31/3) and the PM is fussing about non-compliance (31/3). Here’s a heads-up to the both of you; fail to fully wind back this temporary totalitarianism when the bug is controlled and you’ll be the enemies of all Australian people. Zzz, Zzzz

  148. Tintarella di Luna

    Cardimona
    #3387701, posted on April 1, 2020 at 2:55 pm

    Love your work Cardimona, thank you

  149. Cardimona

    Thanks, Tinta.
    I should of known there’d be a new thread…
    It’s hard to keep up at present.

  150. The Beer Whisperer

    So apparently we need martial law to stop people from being irresponsible, so now the only people outside without an official reason are……..the same people for whom everyone else has been punished.

    The problem of course is that martial law can be used as a justification to stop anything. Murder, rape or folk music, although the latter does have some merit.

  151. OldOzzie

    Now you can’t even visit your BOYFRIEND: Partners who live apart are banned from seeing each other
    Victoria has banned couples from seeing each other in their homes

    Except in Victoria, if you are from a Special Ethnic Group

    How POLICE ‘let a wedding with 30 guests and a drummer go ahead’ in Melbourne despite a ban on ceremonies with more than five guests – just telling them to keep 1.5m apart

    A wedding with more than 30 guests went ahead at the weekend despite strict social distancing rules
    Victoria Police visited the Melbourne nuptials with the party told they could continue if they kept 1.5m away
    Prime Minister Scott Morrison ruled only five people can attend: bride, groom, celebrant and two witnesses

    Victoria Police let wedding celebrations go ahead in Broadmeadows, Victoria, at the weekend despite strict social distancing measures. 32 people are in the above photograph

    Authorities were hesitant to give an explanation for what occurred in this situation.

    ‘Victoria Police will not provide a running commentary on individual spot checks, reports of people breaching self-isolation or breaches of mass gatherings,’ a police spokeswoman said.

    ‘However we have seen the vast majority of the community treat this issue with the seriousness it deserves up until this point.’

    Daily Mail Australia has approached Victorian Police Minister Lisa Neville, the groom and several guests for comment.

  152. bespoke

    Stalking

    It isn’t if your a member of the same club and clash with another member. Your use diminishes the seriousness of kids and other vulnerable people who get followed to what ever platform they have and encourage others to do the same to harass. At best you could claim harassment if not for you admitting many times the bait your commentary to get negative feedback. Your interpretation legitimises people like numberwang to claim the same or me or anyone. As for pile -on’s you have participated in many cheer leaded many others and are quick to stick the boot in (go low). So like numberwang your own words shows the total lake of self awareness and disregard for consistency.

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