Tuesday Forum: March 31, 2020

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  1. Knuckle Dragger

    I just realised in the last ten minutes or so bern.

    Some people will take even the most ludicrous propositions, even with tags, seriously.

    Sort of explains a lot, really.

  2. EvilElvis

    I can feel the devil walking up to me

    That’s not the devil, it’s worse.
    Another skanky Belmont junkee crack whore,
    knocking on the wrong number of a Toorak lodge door…

  3. Infidel Tiger

    From what I have read the changes Turnbull made to Labors NBN are an improvement.

    About as much of an improvement as Parmesan cheese on a dog turd.

  4. JC

    Why has the price of oil collapsed, JC?

    Saudis and Russia not agreeing to production cuts to maintain the price is one. The other is the Saudis using the Russia squabble as a pretext to wanting the US oil patch to go broke. Take your pick as either work.

  5. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Another skanky Belmont junkee crack whore,
    knocking on the wrong number of a Toorak lodge door…

    No. No, no no no no. Not in Toorak.

    They’re ‘executive assistants’.

  6. Thefrollickingmole

    Definitely “ the queens we use would not excite you”

  7. Rex Mango

    Here’s a great track, which was mistakenly taken up by a stupid generation (Numbers, hello) as an anti South East Asian War song, when it was actually about the Spanish American War:

  8. EvilElvis

    Nah, KD. The ‘executive assistantz’ used to work the classy motels. Like the Flag and GEML.

  9. Knuckle Dragger

    The Flag.

    Ewwwwwwwww.

    Even for me. Ewwwwwwww.

  10. Armadillo

    Thanks for the reminder.

    Brain bleach required in Aisle 3, 4 and 5.

  11. Sinclair Davidson

    What? It is a great song.

  12. thefrollickingmole

    I used to like the flag…
    2 rats was far shittyer

  13. feelthebern

    More My Pillow ads.

  14. Knuckle Dragger

    They are among us:

    Tidemann and Vardon (1997) estimate that the Top End indig eat up to 180,000 bats every year.

  15. feelthebern

    More My Pillow guy.

  16. Armadillo

    More My Pillow ads.

    Classier than Sinc’s contribution.

  17. EvilElvis

    I used to like the flag…
    2 rats was far shittyer

    +1. Driving through into that carpark was like entering an alternate universe at the TL. Or a Mogadishu motel.

  18. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Here’s a great track, which was mistakenly taken up by a stupid generation (Numbers, hello) as an anti South East Asian War song, when it was actually about the Spanish American War:

    Big fan of Glen Campbell, but that’s the first I knew it was about the Spanish American war. Thank you.

  19. Neil

    Neil, when we go into lockdown & all have access to Pornhub Premium, we will need fibre to the premises.

    What would FTTP cost and how long would it take to build? I got FTTP I guess because I live in a newer home with an underground conduit. Most homes are old and don’t have one.

    But recently I switched from Telstra to TPG because their NBN12 plan is $50/month cheaper than what I was paying. I get 11Mbps with that plan and I have fibre. So what is the point of FTTP?

    But I don’t want to pay $200/month just to send emails and surf the net which is most probably what I would be paying with labors FTTP. Plus it takes much longer to build meaning people would be stuck with dialup for who knows how long.

  20. Rex Mango

    Easily his best track & another Jimmy Webb number:

  21. Knuckle Dragger

    Keep going bern.

    Twist the blade.

  22. Rex Mango

    Neil, am no fan of KRudd, but all I know is FTTP wouldn’t have cost $2ooB, which is what we are forking out now to fund the Libs spending spree. With people working from home & govt trying to do everything from home the network is not up to it, plus we would have needed it to get the good stuff when the lockdown comes.

  23. Peter the old fossil

    Thanks for Galveston, Rex. It’s been a hectic day on the Cat, and it made a welcome change of pace.
    As this day draws to a close, let’s take it back yet another notch.

  24. Knuckle Dragger

    Why would I get FTTP NBN12 with TPG at $50/month for 90 seconds of Pornhub Premium?

  25. MatrixTransform

    Imagine if you’re a minimum wage cleaner at a hotel.

    I went to the citadel for work today.

    The cleaners were there

    inside building and outside them

    around town there were numerous crews of half-arsed disinfectant wipers going over traffic light buttons and bike racks with chux.

    The truckies were trucking
    The plasterers were plastering
    the Baristas were hanging on by the skin of their teeth

    no … I’m not joking

  26. Armadillo

    Easily his best track & another Jimmy Webb number:

    His lyrics are unbelieveable. Wow. Genius.

  27. Knuckle Dragger

    I mean, the 45 minutes of crying afterwards I can do without the internet.

  28. Fisky

    Hearing more and more reports of foreigners getting kicked out of venues in CN.

  29. Lazlo

    rickw
    The NBN was a disaster from whoa to go. I cannot understand how , in a democracy, we let this obscene amount of our money be wasted on this vanity project.
    Does nobody care about the value of money any more?

  30. Armadillo

    The stoner read the bus timetable and cobbled together some bullshit about a Sheliah. Respect.

  31. Neil

    Neil, am no fan of KRudd, but all I know is FTTP wouldn’t have cost $2ooB

    Fact is nobody knows what FTTP would cost or how long it would take to build. People drive the cars they can afford not the cars they would like to drive.

    How long would FTTP take to build? Nobody really knows. That means people would be stuck on dialup for years longer

  32. mh

    Saw the corona show on CH7 tonight.
    A government spokesman was asked what he wanted people to spend their ‘stimulus’ payments on.
    His answer was “essentials”.
    I’m sure that means ColesWorth.

  33. Infidel Tiger

    Hearing more and more reports of foreigners getting kicked out of venues in CN.

    Great stuff.

    Faster!

  34. MatrixTransform

    Does nobody care about the value of money any more?

    money aint money … people are money.

  35. Lazlo

    Completely wrong, Rex Mango.

  36. JC

    Hearing more and more reports of foreigners getting kicked out of venues in CN.

    The Cartoon Network?

  37. Rex Mango

    Jimmy Webb, camp as a row of tents, but wrote good songs. He wrote Macarther Park, most annoying song ever, which won’t put on because it gets into your ear & you won’t sleep.

  38. Armadillo

    Does nobody care about the value of money any more?

    They are about to find out. The hard way.

  39. Rex Mango

    No Lazlo, you are wrong, about which I am not sure, but your assertion is incorrect.

  40. Rex Mango

    Money is best measured today, since Nixon took the USA off the Gold Standard, as a tug of war between the Chinese who have vast amounts of green bits of paper & the Americans who have accumulated junk they bought from Walmart cheaply.

  41. Peter the old fossil

    Does nobody care about the value of money any more?

    Yes – 25 million less 227 equals 24,999,773 who care.

  42. MatrixTransform

    sharpening their FPV pencils as we speak

  43. vr

    I went to my local Thai for takeaway. It was a thriving business that normally seats anywhere from 100-200 guests per night. On any given night they would have employed about 15 people.

    The owner was thrilled to have my $25 order. Said that because they don’t use UBER &co, there are reliant on the peeps in the neighbourhood. Was moved that people that she knew by face had showed up.

  44. Lazlo

    You know what Arma? They are going to “tax the rich” because they do not know how wealth is created.
    Welcome to the ABC’s Peoples Republic..

  45. Fisky

    Reclose of Bars, Clubs, KTVs, Internet Cafe, Cinemas, Tourist Attractions, Museums…

    Just got this through. First tier city, PRC. Someone’s telling porkies again!

  46. Armadillo

    This will ultimately be known as the “Paper Recession”.

    First came toilet paper, next came the currency.

  47. Rex Mango

    Community Service Announcement: Ch76 (& few others I guess) currently running adverts on high rotation for fashion brand ‘Pretty Little Things’. Better than anything you will find on Pornhub Premium. Full respect.

  48. Fisky

    Ah! It makes perfect sense now. Bar, club and restaurant owners wanted to stave off a prefecture-level re-closing, so they figured kicking foreigners out was their best hope to stay open. Didn’t work, they’re closing down again, and no doubt foreigners will be blamed for it. Thanks to the Imported Corona Virus campaign.

  49. MatrixTransform

    UBER & co

    what’s an UBER ?

  50. Fisky

    BTW – notice how the re-shut down of the PRC is going mostly under the radar. They really, really do not want anyone to think they don’t have a handle on this, but in case they do, it’s the fault of foreigners.

    Hope you’re having a ball over there, JB!

  51. mh

    The corona virus appears to be a northern hemisphere disease.

    Things could change now we have passed the March equinox. Or they might not.

  52. Lazlo

    People are money, MT, to the extent that they trade. Without trade you have no exercise of comparative advantage. And then you have no wealth creation..

    This must stop, soon.

  53. JC

    The corona virus appears to be a northern hemisphere disease.

    Maybe because hardly anyone lives in the southern hemisphere. The Southern hem is mostly sea water.

  54. Armadillo

    I know little of economics other than to have something of value you can travel with.

  55. Rex Mango

    JC, correct & also maybe the weather. Doesn’t seem to like the tropics either like Singapore.

  56. JC

    the Northern Hemisphere, the ratio of land to ocean is about 1 to 1.5. The ratio of land to ocean in the Southern Hemisphere is 1 to 4.

    The includes the Antarctic. Take that cold shithole out of the count an its almost all water.

  57. JC

    I’m just messing about, Rex.

  58. Rex Mango

    Dillo, economics called the dismal science for a reason. In 73 the oil price went up & caused chaos. Other day oil price went down & same. No way to explain that.

  59. mh

    Maybe because hardly anyone lives in the southern hemisphere. The Southern hem is mostly sea water.

    Make the Southern Hemisphere Great Again

    MSHGA

  60. JC

    No way to explain that.

    There is actually. In 1973 the consumers were whacked and the producers bought yachts and Boeing jets as their personal transportation. Now, the consumers are doing well, but not well enough to buy big boats and private jets, I mean the saving on a tank of petrol can only go so far.

  61. JC

    Make the Southern Hemisphere Great Again

    It’s a form of social distancing. We’ve been doing it forever.

  62. Lazlo

    You lot really don’t get wealth creation. Let’s eat taxes!

  63. stackja

    I made it through the wilderness
    Somehow I made it through
    Didn’t know how lost I was until I found you
    I was beat, incomplete, I’d been had
    I was sad and blue, but you made me feel
    Yeah, you made me feel shiny and new

  64. vr

    matrix. meant to say uber eats

  65. Armadillo

    It could be gold, it could be a cow, or it could be a whore. Something you can trade.

    On the other hand, it could be a threat (like the black plague or Coronavirus). Or police enforcement.

    Both these things carry weight.

  66. mh

    Sydney and Melbourne are a blight on the Southern Hemisphere.

    It shouldn’t be what we’re about.

  67. JC

    Rex

    Think of it this way. When there is a huge move in the price of a commodity, especially oil – up or down- someone is going to get fucked over. And its either the consumer or the producer.

  68. Rex Mango

    Another economic question is how the USA goes into WW2, has quarter of a million killed & emerges richer. Likewise Australia in both world wars & smaller peripheral wars we fought (often with disgruntled participants), we always came out ahead.

  69. EvilElvis

    Six bros, Qantas baggage handlers chock full of covid. Wouldn’t have thought Adelaide would need that many baggage handlers.

  70. Rex Mango

    JC, so all you want is a stable price for everything?

  71. JC

    Another economic question is how the USA goes into WW2, has quarter of a million killed & emerges richer. Likewise Australia in both world wars & smaller peripheral wars we fought (often with disgruntled participants), we always came out ahead.

    Totally untrue. Don’t confuse military power with living standards. The per capita living standards for the US coming out of the war was less than 1929. Australia may not have been that much different.

  72. EvilElvis

    JC, so all you want is a stable price for everything?

    The volatile my pillow market mixed with the level of covid bullshit that’s going on would spook the toughest of traders, Rex.

  73. bespoke

    So what about living standards in the 50’s did’t they rise?

  74. MatrixTransform

    meant to say uber eats

    lol .. what’s an uber eats ?

  75. EvilElvis

    We’ve just reclaimed the private hospital system to the public service. Why are we paying private insurance?

  76. Rex Mango

    Baggage handlers, like fire fighters know everything, Funny part about this disease is the vector is famous people & obviously travel.

  77. Lazlo

    So how are you going to make Australia Great Again JC? Market trading?

  78. JC

    JC, so all you want is a stable price for everything?

    I don’t like cartels like OPEC and its hangers, which is essentially a bloc trying to set prices. I think they fail because they have different cost basis and therefore can never work. Prices would be more stable if private firms ran the show.

  79. JC

    Lazlo

    I posted the 10 points of light yesterday.

  80. Rex Mango

    JC, you have to admit that post WW2 the USA went through probably the longest sustained boom in history.

  81. Neil

    https://www.innovationaus.com/nbn-financially-doomed-from-start/

    NBN Co was doomed to be a “financial disaster” regardless of whether it used Labor’s all-fibre model or the current multi-technology mix, respected independent telecommunications analyst firm New Street Research has told a joint parliamentary committee.
    New Street’s respected senior analyst Ian Martin said taxpayers faced a bill for around $30 billion on write downs to the value of NBN Co under the MTM model and that the cost could have been as high as $60 billion under Labor’s all-fibre model.

  82. MatrixTransform

    seriously isn’t the skimmer model dead yet?

    pay me money for something you could perfectly well do for yourself?

    fucking meerkats

  83. JC

    bespoke
    #3386917, posted on April 1, 2020 at 12:20 am

    So what about living standards in the 50’s did’t they rise?

    Absolutely. I think the US started kicking arse on a per capita basis around 1947 or so.

  84. Lazlo

    That’s a long time ago. Give me the Executive Summary.

  85. mh

    The only thing I can see that would wreck the Southern Hemisphere is the Ch inks.

    They could ruin everything.

  86. Armadillo

    In 73 the oil price went up & caused chaos.

    Some made profits. Petrol rationing based on “odds and evens”. What did the punters do?

    Changed number plates. This is no different. It’s like water restrictions.

    The Government, no matter how hard they try, won’t outsmart the populous.

    The problem for the “World Government” at this stage is that they have totally overstepped the mark. Once the people realise they have “been had”, it’s all over for them.

  87. Lazlo

    Living standards went through the roof post 1950, as they did post 1815, when wealth creation started to supercharge.

  88. Armadillo

    The Great Awakening

    h/t Annie

  89. Rex Mango

    Gotta hit the sack to get to work tomorrow – this song goes out to those that have never been in love before:

  90. JC

    There is this chart of real GDP per capita, however its hugely misleading. Real per capita GDP is measure of industrial production to all intents, so it also account for the production of goods in the war effort. In other words, a tank and a jeep would be part of the GDP during the war years. Tanks and jeeps help you win a war, but it doesn’t do much for living standards of the general population.

  91. Lazlo

    The Great Awakening was some Methodist Meme in the 18th Century.

  92. Armadillo

    “Wealth Creation” doesn’t always equate to a better world.

    Look at the statics of those who support Socialism in the US. It’s fucking scary.

  93. JC

    JC, you have to admit that post WW2 the USA went through probably the longest sustained boom in history.

    Why would I have to admit that, hen I would never dispute that.

    The American growth rate was terribly disturbed by the 30’s new deal bullshit. There is no such thing as the Great Depression for the US, which lasted most of the decade. They were rolling recessions one after the other or even combined as shit terrible economic policies were introduced by FDR. Periodically there was a new insult to the economy and those that were combined.

  94. Armadillo

    Gotta hit the sack to get to work tomorrow

    Skite.

  95. Lazlo

    So, JC, the only way out of this is to localise production – milk, cattle,pharmacies, – not be dependent on the Chicoms, even if it doubles the price. Correct?

  96. Lazlo

    Wealth creation always results in a better world.

  97. bespoke

    Higher expectations by returning solders must have played a part in demand. Some poor dirt farmer isn’t going to like using horse after driving a tank.

  98. NoFixedAddress

    Winston Smith
    #3386700, posted on March 31, 2020 at 9:58 pm

    Fat Tony:

    Anyone got any ideas on when the confiscation of all legal firearms will start?

    That will/should be the trigger for mass civil disobedience.

    Not paying tax to the government would be excellent.

  99. Armadillo

    They were rolling recessions one after the other or even combined as shit terrible economic policies were introduced by FDR

    Pretty much.

  100. Fisky

    Anders Corr, Ph.D.
    @anderscorr
    ·
    19h
    A billionaire Chinese national, Liu Dian Bo, bought 34 Australian hospitals in 2015 for $900 million. They have 8000 beds. Now that the country needs them most, the billionaire is shutting them down. His company wants more money from the government.

    Nationalise now!

  101. JC

    So, JC, the only way out of this is to localise production – milk, cattle,pharmacies, – not be dependent on the Chicoms, even if it doubles the price. Correct?

    Nope. We saw vestiges of economic nationalism in the US during the 30s, it didn’t work and it was eventually discarded from about the 50s onward. We saw it here from the start of Federation then tightened further in the 30s and more so in the 50s. We were almost on our knees in the early 80s and getting poorer until Keating put a stop to it.

    Look, you can suggest we make goods necessary to fight a pandemic in Australia, but unless we drastically change our economic settings we will simply carry on as before. Are we going to go from some of the most expensive electricity in the western world to the cheapest? We could easily, but we won’t. That’s just one example.

  102. Infidel Tiger

    Anders Corr, Ph.D.
    @anderscorr
    ·
    19h
    A billionaire Chinese national, Liu Dian Bo, bought 34 Australian hospitals in 2015 for $900 million. They have 8000 beds. Now that the country needs them most, the billionaire is shutting them down. His company wants more money from the government.

    Confiscate his assets.

    Proceeds of crime.

  103. JC

    Fisk

    That’s not the real story or the way you’re putting it. Those beds are there, but the government has essentially forbidden elective surgery, which is what those hospitals were used for. Unless that changes the dude is better off temporarily closing them down.

    In any event, there are designated hospitals only if you fall down with the china bug.

  104. JC

    Not Fisk… I meant Artie.

    Fisk posted that story last night.

  105. Armadillo

    Wealth creation always results in a better world.

    No. Creating wealthy bureaucrats doesn’t result in a better world.

    It’s merely a redistribution of wealth under the guise of socialism.

  106. EvilElvis

    Nationalise now!

    That’s happened already. Hunt has basically sucked those facilities into the public system. Closed down specialist services and elective surgery so no work, why not shut them?

  107. Infidel Tiger

    Bwahahaha!

    Qld public servants are getting a pay rise!

    That’s it. It’s now just a free for all.

  108. Lazlo

    Agreed JC, this must be accompanied by a drastic change to our economic settings, including electricity. This is the time.

    But I fear it won’t happen. No cojones, anywhere.

  109. EvilElvis

    Oh, all done under the guise of “sharing the load”. The whole public sector has been crucified by “sharing the load”. FMD.

  110. Armadillo

    I should have added /democracy.

  111. JC

    I looked further upthread and both of you posted it. I take that correction back.

    Fisk

    You posted that thing last night, why are you re-posting it. It’s wrong anyway.

  112. bespoke

    Qld public servants are getting a pay rise!

    “We are all in this together!-tv talking head”

  113. JC

    eggsactly, why not shut them down when there’s no work for the staff?

  114. JC

    Artie

    Don’t get egged on by Fisky. You’re so trigger happy these days.

  115. Lazlo

    Arma,
    Read Adam Smith and Riccardo. There is a reason we are more wealthy than the 19th Century.
    It had nothing to do with the public sector.

  116. Armadillo

    It had nothing to do with the public sector.

    Read again what I wrote, Lazlo. Some of it is “tongue in cheek”.

    The point is this. The public service in this country has grown way too big for its boots. They can throw as much money at it as they want, but there will be repercussions when the money runs out.

    There will ultimately be a reckoning. Good.

  117. JC

    The public service in this country has grown way too big for its boots. They can throw as much money at it as they want, but there will be repercussions when the money runs out.

    I can’t verbalize the loathing and abhorrence I have for the public sector. I’m short of words.

  118. Lazlo

    Doesn’t change my point about wealth creation Arma. Lose sight of that then we are gone down the Chicom road.

  119. Twostix

    It’s almost like we’re being goaded by the government right now.

    It’s like they badly want the populace to react.

    What is going on here?

  120. JC

    What is going on here?

    All last year green zombies were stopping traffic in our large cities to advocate for more expensive electricity prices. We’re under house arrest, cops are going around beaches and parks threatening people if they don’t go back in homes and the silence is eerie. This place has been sheeplized.

  121. Armadillo

    Lose sight of that then we are gone down the Chicom road.

    That ship has already sailed.

    Why do you think we are currently in the situation we are? Nothing to do with “Wealth Creation” perhaps?

    Globalisation and wealth cremation.

  122. Some History

    What’s Going On?

    4 Non Blondes – What’s Up (Official Video)

  123. Lazlo

    I share your grief. Time to reset and articulate, step up, make proposals. It can be done, Maggie did.

  124. Armadillo

    The positive out of all this is that the companies who have been spruicking for Commnist China are going to get burnt.

    The only real asset in a business is trust. It’s something you can neither buy, nor sell.

  125. Armadillo

    This place has been sheeplized.

    Unleash the Labradoodle.

  126. NoFixedAddress

    Lazlo
    #3386978, posted on April 1, 2020 at 1:36 am

    I share your grief. Time to reset and articulate, step up, make proposals. It can be done, Maggie did.

    We do not have a mechanism to reset.

  127. Lazlo

    That’s what the Tory wets said in 1979.

  128. Armadillo

    Let we forget our politicians who have cuddled up to our Asian friends.

    The list is long………

  129. NoFixedAddress

    Australia is a Socialist country

  130. Armadillo

    That’s what the Tory wets said in 1979.

    What did they say?

  131. Peter the old fossil

    Twostix
    #3386971, posted on April 1, 2020 at 1:24 am

    + 1oo.

    You’re starting to get it, Twostix. Go read any history of occupational forces all the way back to Roman times. It’s SOP. The Germans used it with devastating effect in France and the Netherlands, and elsewhere. Put simply:
    1) – Occupy.
    2) – Do everything possible to aggravate the locals and create a backlash.
    3) – Shoot and or overpower dissenters and ship survivors off to concentration camps.
    Most of rest of population now cowed, docile and easily controlled. Aggravations can be relaxed, life returns to something approaching normal.

    Trouble here in Oz is that the population is so cowed they can’t even get a decent protest march going.

  132. So they get a pay rise and one off payment. Not one civil servant has sacrificed anything due to the virus.

    I note the Union guy in the article (previous page) said no Qld state staff had been stood down. This is total BS. All libraries, cultural buildings and swimming pools closed, driving tests cancelled. I know a council worker who is working one week on and one week off. Another on the public payroll told me today he has been allowed to go home on full pay. His job has no element that could be done at home but is over 60 and considered high risk.

    It is clear our leaders have no concept of who pays for the 2 million plus civil servants in the country. Payroll $165 billion plus and rising.

    “Workers across the Queensland public sector are participating in an “all-staff” ballot that opened last week to approve a 2.5 per cent wage increase, plus a one-off cash payment of $1250”.

  133. Armadillo

    Australia is a Socialist country

    Australia is a country about to explode into anti Socialist and anti Authoritarisn fever. Give it a week.

  134. JC

    Yep, but it’s no surprise really.

    Hospital executive and former Hillary campaign staffer fired because she wants to kill Trump supporters with the china bug by refusing treatment.

    New York hospital executive has been fired after she posted public comments on social media fantasising about how supporters of President Trump would get the coronavirus and not be allowed to get treatment.

  135. Fisky

    Good!

    DropletJohn Spitzer
    @ASX1500
    ·
    3h
    Net migration is about to turn negative as temporary migrants have no jobs and no protection.

    The massive oversupply of housing which was masked by Airbnb is about to become monumental as the completions continue but the immigrants don’t.

  136. Lazlo

    Before Maggie was elected in a landslide. It can happen. Then it did a year later with Ronald Reagan.

  137. Armadillo

    It is clear our leaders have no concept of who pays for the 2 million plus civil servants in the country.

    They know.

  138. Peter the old fossil

    Give it a week.

    Until what? Armed insurrection?
    Right now you’d be lucky to get more than a hundred people prepared to march down the main streets of Sydney in protest, all obediently maintaining their “social distance”.
    That’s not going to change in a week. Or a month.

  139. NoFixedAddress

    Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan were 40 years ago.

    Who in Australia has a party and leader that can get us out of this mess.

    LNP are a waste of time and just short of Labor who are just short of the Greens.

  140. Peter the old fossil

    Mark Latham.

    Jesus wept.

  141. NoFixedAddress

    Well I hope the LNP/Labor/Greens cabal shut down the Adani Mine and India invades us because they’ve certainly got better military and nukes and then we might get some clear air because with the current Political, Government and Business structureswe have – we’re fkd.

  142. Peter the old fossil

    Well I hope the LNP/Labor/Greens cabal shut down the Adani Mine

    Unlikely, since our politicians are no longer running the show.
    They are now little more than paid messenger boys.

    No, I don’t know who is calling the shots.

  143. Armadillo

    Right now you’d be lucky to get more than a hundred people prepared to march down the main streets of Sydney in protest,

    LOL. It doesn’t matter what happens in Sydney or Melbourne. You people can march all you want. You often do. The ABC dutifully covers it.

    What you won’t be seeing on your TV screens is what’s happening in the bush.

    Everyone has had a gutful of the bullshit, and are flaunting the laws. The Police know better than to ignite the situation. Haven’t seen a copper anywhere. None.

  144. Armadillo

    You see the odd freak in a supermarket with a face mask on. Shopping.

    The staff are mostly standing around, pissed off that they have to wear plastic gloves.

  145. Peter the old fossil

    What you won’t be seeing on your TV screens is what’s happening in the bush.

    So, just what is happening “in the bush”?
    500 angry farmers, armed with their five shot capacity, bolt action rifles, are going to march on Canberra, overthrow the puppet government, and reestablish freedom and representative democracy?

    The people actually running the show couldn’t give a stiff shit.

  146. Peter the old fossil

    Armadillo
    #3387001, posted on April 1, 2020 at 2:44 am

    A week ago, yes. Yesterday, no.
    Face masks and social distancing the order of the day.
    And no, I’m not in one of the capital cities.

  147. Howard Hill

    Right now you’d be lucky to get more than a hundred people prepared to march down the main streets of Sydney in protest,

    City people have no idea what goes on in the real world. They listen to channel Nein news and watch that whore on acurrentamakeupbullshit. They are shit frightened of firearms and have swallowed the daily indoctrination fed to them by our corrupt, communist, media.
    These people wouldn’t march to save their pathetic little lives.

    The bushies and hunters though are a completely different breed. They don’t mix with those lactating soy. They don’t waste their time on bullshit protests. Protests are there to let the plebs let of some steam and nothing more. When did a protest ever achieve anything?

    When that piece of crap, Howard tried to disarm Aussies by banning semi-autos, it set off a chain of events all across the country. It did nothing to stop armed revolution, infact, it forced people underground because they could see the writing on the wall.
    There are more high powered rifles out there than there ever were and the people that own them are pretty much of the same calibre and know how to use them. There are caches of illegal weapons all over the country and the ammo to support them.
    If you move around the right hunting groups enough, you’ll know what I’m talking about.

    Once the shit gets real, we’re not quite there yet, close but not yet. The country will be shocked at the amount of fire-power that will come out of the wood-work. If they push this shit too far they are going to have a war they’ll never forget, if they survive it that is.

    Remember America? Most of the population were against going to war, it only too a third of the country to bring down the crown.

  148. Howard Hill

    500 angry farmers, armed with their five shot capacity, bolt action rifles

    Goat fuckers hiding in caves have stood against the greatest military the world has ever known!

  149. classical_hero

    Souvenir impeachment pens for all.

  150. struth

    The next phase for takeover is well underway.
    Changing people’s fear for the corona virus nothingness to making them understand who is in charge and who to fear.
    Single swimmers at the beach and single people walking in parks are being harrassed by the cops.
    They are closing down the gun shops and ammo purchasing.
    More and more the tightening around the throats by your new China/UN overlords goading a response they can crush.
    They must be re examing what can be done as the fight back required to then show us all who really to fear…when they crush it…isn’t coming from the dumb fearful apathetic Aussies.
    For my money they’ll probably have to provoke the mooooooossies.
    How pathetic.
    The next few weeks is wake up time.
    They need us to work out what to truly fear and it’s not a cold virus.

  151. BorisG

    A few days ago when I observed that deaths in NY were rising quickly, i was told that they are mostly in NY and under cotnrol.

    Now the deaths in NY alone have doubled in 3 days, surpassing 1500, most of these in the last week. Most modeling studies assume both cases and deaths doubling every 5 days. This is just sky rocketing. For comparison, deaths form flu are 1500 for the entire flu season (about 12 weeks). No surprise that the system cannot cope and requires turning Central Park into hospital, and hospital ship. And it is not enough.

    Maybe, just maybe the cranks here will realise that this

  152. BorisG

    Sorry pressed post too early.

    Maybe, just maybe the cranks here will realise that this Is deadly serious and we are lucky the government made a decisive measures Relatively early. Not early enough but hopefully not too late.

    Think about it. Australia is probably more connected to China than any country in Europe or North America. Yet we have far fewer cases and deaths. Our government must have been doing something right.

  153. rickw

    Maybe, just maybe the cranks here will realise that this Is deadly serious and we are lucky the government made a decisive measures Relatively early. Not early enough but hopefully not too late.

    Government is made decisive measure?

    Thermal screening on International Arrivals started at Melbourne Airport on Sunday as far as I can tell. Ruby Princess? Government has completely screwed up what was firmly within their remit and existing powers.

    Meanwhile they have gone beserk on Australian Citizens, who don’t have the virus and who wouldn’t have got it except that Government completely failed at border control.

  154. rickw

    Yet we have far fewer cases and deaths. Our government must have been doing something right.

    Suburbia has built in social distancing, structural and personal hygiene are good, the weather has been hot. We are girt by sea.

    Government has done their best to trash these natural advantages, in particular girt by sea.

  155. rickw

    500 angry farmers, armed with their five shot capacity, bolt action rifles

    Goat fuckers hiding in caves have stood against the greatest military the world has ever known!

    Rules of Engagement. I don’t think angry farmers will be doing rules of engagement.

  156. rickw

    City people have no idea what goes on in the real world. They listen to channel Nein news and watch that whore on acurrentamakeupbullshit. They are shit frightened of firearms and have swallowed the daily indoctrination fed to them by our corrupt, communist, media.
    These people wouldn’t march to save their pathetic little lives.

    The bushies and hunters though are a completely different breed. They don’t mix with those lactating soy.

    I saw several man-buns in a gun shop four weeks ago. I had never seen this before. They looked uncomfortable and out of place, but they were there to buy guns and ammo. Something has changed.

  157. Johno

    Daylight saving ends in NSW on Sunday. Where did they store all the sunshine? Can we have access to the savings in July?

  158. rickw

    Another economic question is how the USA goes into WW2, has quarter of a million killed & emerges richer.

    I think it reset expectations and mindset. Military service introduced a lot of people to higher standards of personal hygiene, the amount of military dentistry work done was immense. Introduced many people to the idea of clean clothes and regular meals. When you’ve been shot at while storming beaches it changes both your mindset and expectations. There were plenty of local government “resets” thanks to this, some of them involving armed confrontations, a large chunk of the population used to working with each other, trusting each other is very powerful.

    Australian soldiers were specifically counselled against getting any ideas off “Capitalist” Americans who couldn’t wait to get back to the USA and try their new ideas and businesses. Just go back to being Aussie light socialists M’kay!

  159. Confused Old Misfit

    “A doctor and HIS husband” King and Queen of the shipboard prom no doubt.
    Knowledge a mile deep and 12 inches wide and an indication that there is something there else outside the norm.
    Add to that the “I’m a doctor so I must bre God” complex and we are well into the laws are for little people territory.

  160. 132andBush

    *Public gatherings, excluding household members, have been reduced to a maximum of two people.

    *Everyone should stay home unless you are: shopping for essentials, receiving medical care, exercising or travelling to work or education.

    *People aged over 70; aged over 65 with pre-existing conditions, or Indigenous people aged over 50 with pre-existing conditions should stay home wherever possible for their own protection.

    Your Covid Bill Of Rights.

  161. Johno

    I know a Jordanian,who came to Australia in about 2000 on a student visa. His family is rich and paid his tuition at Monash,one year later he somehow got PR and had access to HECS. He then took a low paying job at ANU lecturing about the Middle East whilst he studied for his Masters. He then wrangled a PHD out of the system, all the time taking cash payments for tutoring in english/arab language. By this time he had Dual Citizenship and he then returned to Jordan in about 2015. He never paid a cent in HECS dues, because low income, he drove a Mercedes.
    The situation in Jordan is turning nasty with the Chinese virus, so he has returned to Australia with his Jordanian wife and daughter. We put them up in a nice hotel for 14 days, thank you nice taxpayers of Oz.

    He contacted me and said that he has wrangled a position at Uni because of his PHD,however this was cancelled the next day because of the Chinese virus. He wanted me to tell him all about the payments the nice Government of Australia were handing out.

  162. bespoke

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #3386235, posted on March 31, 2020 at 6:16 pm
    Do not trust people who want to be friends with everyone.
    Do not trust emotional manipulators.
    Do not trust high maintenance ego’s
    =====
    Now hang on.

    I actually trust quite a few Women

    So do I and quite a few men I’ve come across have emotional issues they need to sort out before they preach.

  163. NoFixedAddress

    Johno
    #3387047, posted on April 1, 2020 at 6:36 am

    come off it Johno

    its too early in the morning for April Fools jokes

  164. Rafe Champion

    Another economic question is how the USA goes into WW2, has quarter of a million killed & emerges richer.
    They didn’t emerge richer, they got richer afterwards like everyone else when they stopped killing off the cream of their manpower and destroying each others infrastructure. Some people like to think that Keynesian economics did it.

    The New Deal locked the US in depression until the war, then the concentration on the war effort forced people to put up with the sacrifices and the austerity that most people in the US experienced during the war.

  165. struth

    Still looking at websites run by the children of the deep state in Washington Boris G.
    Seeing vision on MSM of wokkas in space suits?
    Socialists have thousands of people dying everyday to reclassify as dying by a cold virus like they’ve admitted to in Italy.

    New York run by out and proud socialist and the most important election in the fight against global socialist domination coming up and you come here believing all you are told.
    People like you, gullible twats gave our country away.

  166. struth

    I haven’t done one but it would be interesting to compare the states who voted for Trump or are run by Proper Republican governors as to death by corona cold virus compared to socialist run states.

  167. Johno

    I told him I had no idea of the benefits as they did not affect me. I want to keep the lines of communication open as I am truly interested in how this turns out. One thing I am sure of he will not pay any tax or repay his HECS debt,he will work the system for all he can get and then return to his shithole country when the dust settles.

  168. jupes

    One thing I am sure of he will not pay any tax or repay his HECS debt,he will work the system for all he can get and then return to his shithole country when the dust settles.

    Australia. The dumbest country on Earth.

  169. Johno

    I don’t think there is anything I can do about this,he is an Australian citizen and ENTITLED to all the benefits accruing thereof. Like all of his kind he is status driven and his ego will cause him to slip up, well, that’s what I tell myself anyway.

  170. NoFixedAddress

    Reading an article at PJ Media on

    HOA Threatens to Foreclose on Residents Conducting Business at Home During Lockdown

    https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/hoa-to-people-trying-to-earn-a-living-during-the-lockdown-drop-dead/

    and was reminded that many, many Australian councils (if not all) have regulation about registering and operating a Home Based Business and Working from Home.

    With ASIO monitoring internet traffic and every government department accessing telecommunications data I presume your door will get kicked in early one morning if your licences and registrations are not up to date.

    and I laughed and laughed and laughed.

  171. Scotty and Dan of the Dead must quickly role back the police state
    or it will done for them in a less than pleasant manner.

    The stakes in this game have gone up.

  172. NoFixedAddress

    The Dark Shadow of Chinese Globalization Falls Over Italy
    By Christopher R. O’Dea March 31, 2020 6:30 AM

    China’s ambition is nothing less than world domination through control of maritime trade.

    By quietly acquiring a global network of commercial ports from countries and investors unable or unwilling to maintain their critical economic infrastructure, China has reverse-engineered the logic of conquest: Chinese state-owned companies now control a base network of the sort that previous global hegemons obtained through military victory. Expect China to use the coronavirus crisis to accelerate its efforts to use that economic leverage to pull host countries deeper into Beijing’s political orbit.
    ….
    That was not the visual backdrop Italian leaders were seeking less than a year ago when they signed a memorandum of understanding with China, committing Italy to Xi Jinping’s Belt and Road Initiative. Italy also signed nearly 20 related agreements to build new port and road infrastructure, initiate scientific cooperation in space science and satellite technology, boost exports of frozen pork and citrus fruit to China, and tap Chinese investment funds to pay for many of the projects. Despite the wide-ranging commitments agreed to in Rome in March, China apparently did not believe it had any responsibility to tell its new partner that a dangerous virus had been on the loose in Wuhan in December, and that many of the Chinese arriving in Northern Italy during the winter might be carriers. The decimation of Italy’s elderly highlights how China handles partner nations, and it’s a dark future.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/03/dark-shadow-chinese-globalization-falls-over-italy/#slide-1

  173. Peter the old fossil

    Scotty and Dan of the Dead must quickly role back the police state
    or it will done for them in a less than pleasant manner.

    How? And by whom?

  174. Mater

    Maybe, just maybe the cranks here will realise that this Is deadly serious and we are lucky the government made a decisive measures Relatively early. Not early enough but hopefully not too late.

    Whilst you were reading the posts of “the cranks” last night, I hope you noticed the reports of people’s medical conditions going untreated. People are going to die from this lockdown, Boris.

    Your words:

    Harming of others need to be outlawed, that is what the government has done. Good on them.

    But then this:

    BorisG
    #3385908, posted on March 31, 2020 at 2:42 pm

    People will die from undiagnosed cancer and a myriad of other things as a result of this action

    Not if it is managed well. On the contrary, had the health system been overwhelmed, such an outcome would be much more likely.

  175. Struth

    Scotty and Dan of the Dead must quickly role back the police state
    or it will done for them in a less than pleasant manner.

    The stakes in this game have gone up.

    Not to mention the Queensland Commopremier………………Palacepoop.

    The facts remain that even here on Catallaxy we have those gullible and shitting their pants.
    The likelihood of Australia waking up in large numbers before the internet is closed down to Chinese style regulations is highly unlikely.
    It seems to me, that populations that really need scaring to lay down and take it are getting a good solid bullshit death rate thrown at them.
    They don’t need to try that hard in Australia, we love being convicts and told when to shit and how to wipe our arses.
    But if we play up, the death toll in Australia will shoot through the roof.

    NY is Propaganda central at the moment.
    You could have bet on it at the start.

  176. Megan

    It is two years since my last breast screen. I have previously had a lumpectomy. If I have to wait an indefinite period of time for treatment my options for successful outcomes decrease. Am I better or worse off dying from breast cancer or covid19?

    Either way Boris, I’m still dead. But I can feel good as I breathe my last because an unknowable number of lives have been saved.

  177. calli

    An interesting story.

    Lobsters swapped for medical supplies.

    Those medical supplies have had a rough ride. Manufactured in China, sent to Oz, bought up by daigou, back to China, now a bartering chip back to Oz.

    If only we manufactured that medical equipment, we could be eating nice fat lobsters and rude fingering the Chinese.

    Who would still be eating pangolin and bats.

  178. How? And by whom?

    Today’s password please.

  179. Struth

    How hard is it for the governor of NY to give his socialist appointed , socialist head of the health department a call and tell her/him that we want the figures fudged to get Trump out?
    Any death you can attribute to Coronavirus , do it.
    We’ve got CNN on the streets in space suits and the MSM is mobilising to really get the orange man.
    Just give us some figures to publish like the Italians did.

  180. bespoke

    You’re starting to get it, Twostix. Go read any history of occupational forces all the way back to Roman times. It’s SOP. The Germans used it with devastating effect in France and the Netherlands, and elsewhere. Put simply:
    1) – Occupy.
    2) – Do everything possible to aggravate the locals and create a backlash.
    3) – Shoot and or overpower dissenters and ship survivors off to concentration camps.
    Most of rest of population now cowed, docile and easily controlled. Aggravations can be relaxed, life returns to something approaching normal.

    Trouble here in Oz is that the population is so cowed they can’t even get a decent protest march going.

    I share the concerns that people aren’t paying attention but his rubbish is one reason why they don’t and why I’m about to tell my ‘progressive’ little bro in England to never contact my wife and kid again. Those that go out and do stuff see the streets are a little quiet with some jittery but people are still going about there lives walking with kids and dogs going to work and not a jack boot to be seen.
    This is what happens if you live your life on social media looking for things to get outraged reliant on filtered information it makes them vulnerable to mischievous no life predators and at this time they are having field day spreading BS story’s and coursing panic that is actually helping more compliance not less.

    “history” Lol! What happened to the last two people stirring up others emotions getting them to do unspeakable things while held up in a bunker or house, they died a miserable death as they should.

  181. Peter the old fossil

    Whilst you were reading the posts of “the cranks” last night,

    Thank you for your kind words, Mater.
    Now that we have passed the apex of the bell curve of casualties in most states, remind me again when all these restrictions will be lifted, the military withdrawn, and Morrison will wave his magic wand and everything will go back to normal? It’s just that I desperately need some more Ventolin.

  182. Struth

    IR, our police forces consider us, and have done for many years, an enemy that needs controlling.

    Their incredible obsession with bikies, whether you like them or not, was plainly obvious through the years.
    Not because they didn’t like the crime the bikies were doing, didn’t harrass them to help the crime rate, but they saw them as a threat to their dominance.
    Purely one group of thugs against another on power trips.
    It was pathetic to watch.

    These people are not on our side.

  183. Cassie of Sydney

    “Maybe, just maybe the cranks here will realise that this Is deadly serious and we are lucky the government made a decisive measures “

    There are a few “cranks here”…and BolshevikG is one of them. I wonder if BolshevikG is walking around wearing a face mask to protect himself from the Wuhan Flu? BolshevikG strikes me as the type of “crank” who would happily volunteer to dob in his neighbours for “breaking the rules”…you know people doing such anti-social things such as sitting in a park reading.

  184. Whilst you were reading the posts of “the cranks” last night, I hope you noticed the reports of people’s medical conditions going untreated. People are going to die from this lockdown, Boris.

    Well there you go.
    The situation must be different in Queensland.
    My bride has recently completed chemo for breast cancer, after surgery and radiotherapy.
    A check with her oncology team the other day revealed that the current emergency will make no difference, at this stage, to her treatment. Her friends, who are in the process of chemo, are continuing with their treatment.
    That particular meme is, like so many that pop up here, bullshit.

  185. Struth

    Those that go out and do stuff see the streets are a little quiet with some jittery but people are still going about there lives

    Those millions out of work just getting on with it?

  186. There are a few “cranks here”…and BolshevikG is one of them.

    BorisG is one of the few sane posters on this scrofulous blog.
    Cassie simply abuses anyone who doesn’t follow the Catallaxy party line.
    “Cranks” is a very accurate description. Unfortunately the word has gone out of use.

  187. Cassie of Sydney

    “Not to mention the Queensland Commopremier………………Palacepoop.”

    Who will be reelected yet again…..because the LNP and Freckleface are inept Labor lite toadies who will never rock the boat about anything. They can’t even find the cojones to speak up against drag queens reading to children in QLD public libraries.

  188. Cassie of Sydney

    “That particular meme is, like so many that pop up here, bullshit.”

    Speaking of perpetual cranks and perpetual bullshit.

  189. Peter the old fossil

    Bespoke,

    Better that you go back to making sick jokes about my “allegedly dying wife”. You know, the one who is “allegedly dead” now. At least that way you won’t risk getting anybody else killed.

  190. Struth

    Well there you go.
    The situation must be different in Queensland.
    My bride has recently completed chemo for breast cancer, after surgery and radiotherapy.
    A check with her oncology team the other day revealed that the current emergency will make no difference, at this stage, to her treatment. Her friends, who are in the process of chemo, are continuing with their treatment.
    That particular meme is, like so many that pop up here, bullshit.

    That’s because the hospitals are not being over run, the coronavirus is a cold virus and no one is dying from it.
    If they were the hospitals would be filled by now.
    They are not, we have had hardly any deaths compared to last year’s flu season, yet we are being told we need to go into stage “whatever” lockdown as they tighten the screws.
    You can’t have it both ways.
    No extra deaths, and probably all deaths were of old age related illnesses while someone had a cold that did not contribute to death, but like the Italians, used to scare the population into being held down with Martial Law.

  191. There are a few “cranks here”…and BolshevikG is one of them.

    BorisG is one of the (very) few sane commentators who post here.
    And his use of the word “crank” is absolutely accurate.
    Dictionary meaning –

    Crank is a pejorative term used for a person who holds an unshakable belief that most of his or her contemporaries consider to be false.

    Which is obvious when you consider the ranting that goes on here, and compare that behaviour with that of most Australians in the current crisis..
    He gets abused by Cassie, of course, because that is what she does – abuses anyone who departs from the Catallaxy party line.

  192. Crossie

    NoFixedAddress
    #3387049, posted on April 1, 2020 at 6:44 am
    Johno
    #3387047, posted on April 1, 2020 at 6:36 am

    come off it Johno

    its too early in the morning for April Fools jokes

    Johno’s story sounds about right. About ten years ago I knew a Jordanian student doing a double degree just so he could qualify fo permanent residency. He was an arrogant prick.

  193. Nick

    It’s going to be hard today to know what is an April fools day joke and what is a Government directive.

  194. Cassie of Sydney

    “He gets abused by Cassie, of course, because that is what she does – abuses anyone who departs from the Catallaxy party line.”

    I only call out racists, Joooo haters and cranks….and the Toowoomba Turd is all three.

  195. That’s because the hospitals are not being over run, the coronavirus is a cold virus and no one is dying from it.

    Which, at this stage, has a lot to do with the fact that governments in this country are controlling social behaviour. It’s not rocket science – we’re dealing with a virus which is c-o-n-t-a-g-i-o-u-s. Look it up.

    If they were the hospitals would be filled by now.

    Check out what is happening in New York.
    Or perhaps it’s just another conspiracy.
    Or perhaps many here are assiduously competing for Darwin awards.
    Crank…..

  196. an old fossil has a short memory.

    When all those nice, smiling people in the eastern suburbs can’t pay their mortgage and can’t sell their house; they become a little grumpy and unreasonable (to say the least).

    And speaking of memory, who was it who said that one’s respect for (police) authority is proportional to your net worth?

  197. Johno’s story sounds about right. About ten years ago I knew a Jordanian student doing a double degree just so he could qualify fo permanent residency. He was an arrogant prick.

    The arrogant prick is Johno.
    According to him, this bloke is an Australian citizen.
    He has exactly the same rights and entitlements as you and me.
    How would you feel if he was a Saffie who had been naturalised as an Australian citizen?

  198. Peter the old fossil

    That’s because the hospitals are not being over run, the coronavirus is a cold virus and no one is dying from it.

    Good morning Struth.
    It’s also because the Toowoomba hospital is the main regional emergency and casualty centre for all of the surrounding rural farming district. It has a capacity far in excess of that needed for the immediate township. That includes both facilities and staff.

    Numbers always conveniently fails to mention these minor details.

  199. Mater

    That particular meme is, like so many that pop up here, bullshit.

    You’re not capable of any lateral thought, are you?
    Your narrow experience is the gold standard?
    Read Rogers story from last night. My wife couldn’t physically see a Dr because she suffers hay fever. Has she been physically examined? Did they look down her throat? Do they know what her problem really is?

    Even in good times, an acquaintance of mine had her cancer (same as mine) misdiagnosed three times before they looked closely enough. By that stage, too late. She’s dead, leaving three primary aged children behind.

    Rest assured, right now, people are being misdiagnosed over the phone and treatments are extending to the point of no return.

    The other day, I said deaths are inevitable, either way. I don’t mind if you’ve assessed the current course of action to be the least worst option, just don’t be ignorant enough to deny the other side of the equation.

  200. calli

    Just had mum on the line, voice trembling with worry. Wednesday is lunch day (and an opportunity for me to surreptitiously check the fridge and pantry) for us. It’s also critical for socialisation.

    She’s concerned that we are breaking the law by having lunch in her house. We have been keeping a tightly closed loop re the virus. There is one case here and it’s in isolation.

    Meanwhile, recklessness continues with cruise ship arrivals. The New Broom is asking prospective clients if they’ve just come back from cruises. And sure enough, they are bored in isolation and want to get quotes for work around the house. So they phone up and want to meet at home.

  201. Cassie of Sydney

    “just don’t be ignorant enough to deny the other side of the equation.”

    He is incapable of such thinking. Quite disturbing when you think that this creep taught children.

  202. Knuckle Dragger

    Rex at 2.21;

    ‘Baggage handlers, like fire fighters, know everything.’

    Haha. Great little piece before the mania set in.

  203. Peter the old fossil

    When all those nice, smiling people in the eastern suburbs can’t pay their mortgage and can’t sell their house; they become a little grumpy and unreasonable (to say the least).

    Yeah? And so what? What do you expect all these “grumpy and unreasonable” people to do about it? Sign an online petition demanding the military and armed police cease and desist?

  204. DrBeauGan

    Before dawn here, Jupiter is high in the eastern sky, Saturn and Mars are two bright stars below jupiter, only a few degrees apart and of similar brightness.

    It’s a beautiful universe.

  205. Johno

    The thing with this prick that really annoys me is that he is quite rich. His father was a Professor of Languages in Jordan and an Ambassador,he owned multiple houses,units and farms. He died in Europe about 10 years ago and of course eldest son administers and owns the estate. This prick only bailed from Jordan because of the Chinese Virus, and Australia provides him,wife and daughter with a safe haven until it all blows over.He could quite easily live a life of luxury here for years, but if the taxpayer is stumping up money, he will take that too. In fact if he doesn’t he will lose face with his mob.

  206. Numbers always conveniently fails to mention these minor details.

    I also didn’t mention that my bride is being treated through St Vincents, not Toowoomba Base.
    That’s a rake of Monty proportions….

  207. NoFixedAddress

    Crossie
    #3387088, posted on April 1, 2020 at 7:56 am

    NoFixedAddress
    #3387049, posted on April 1, 2020 at 6:44 am
    Johno
    #3387047, posted on April 1, 2020 at 6:36 am

    come off it Johno

    its too early in the morning for April Fools jokes

    Johno’s story sounds about right. About ten years ago I knew a Jordanian student doing a double degree just so he could qualify fo permanent residency. He was an arrogant prick.

    Crossie

    Did not doubt Johno at all.

    It’s the sort of story that you have to either laugh at, weep over or just rapidly swallow a double shot.

  208. calli

    It’s a beautiful universe.

    It most certainly is, DrBeau.

    I woke to a thick, soft sea mist rolling across the fairways and creeping up to the back door, backlit by the rising sun. Not a breath of wind, and a salt tang in the air.

    Now almost burned off.

  209. bespoke

    Peter the old fossil
    #3387083, posted on April 1, 2020 at 7:51 am
    Bespoke,

    Better that you go back to making sick jokes about my “allegedly dying wife”. You know, the one who is “allegedly dead” now. At least that way you won’t risk getting anybody else killed.

    Your a lying no life crank that has had no skin in the game for a long time if ever and surrounded by enablers.

    I would feel sorry for you if not for your exploitation of what has happened to you spreading the misery because your to feeble minded to take charge of your own life.

  210. DrBeauGan

    It’s a beautiful universe.

    It would be even better if numbers wasn’t in it.

  211. Johno

    Sniffy you stupid dumb prick, this maggot has gamed the system, but you don’t mind because you have never been paid one dollar that wasn’t taken from a taxpayer first. If this person was a white American we could expect a 250 word essay and a stern letter to the Editor.

    Lift your game lad,you are a monomanic,sniffy jack shit.

  212. Knuckle Dragger

    Reposting the best bits of Howard Hill at 3.27;

    ‘City people have no idea what goes on in the real world. They listen to channel Nein news and watch that whore on acurrentamakeupbullshit. They are shit frightened of firearms and have swallowed the daily indoctrination fed to them by our corrupt, communist, media.
    These people wouldn’t march to save their pathetic little lives.
    The bushies and hunters though are a completely different breed. They don’t mix with those lactating soy. They don’t waste their time on bullshit protests. Protests are there to let the plebs let of some steam and nothing more. When did a protest ever achieve anything?’

    Preach it. Yeah, go ahead, protest. Like allll the other protests, like the XR ones, and the G11 ones, and the poofery ones, and even the MUA ones and BLF ones. Name one single thing they achieved.

    That’s right. Fuck all.

    ‘There are more high powered rifles out there than there ever were and the people that own them are pretty much of the same calibre and know how to use them. There are caches of illegal weapons all over the country and the ammo to support them.
    If you move around the right hunting groups enough, you’ll know what I’m talking about.
    Once the shit gets real, we’re not quite there yet, close but not yet. The country will be shocked at the amount of fire-power that will come out of the wood-work. If they push this shit too far they are going to have a war they’ll never forget, if they survive it that is.’

    People laugh and laugh and laugh (h/t NFA) at the stooopid hicks from the country who’ve never been in an Uber. Well I’ll tell you what, those dumb stalk-chewing hat wearers have the means to access a truly frightening amount of firepower.

  213. Farmer Gez

    ABC reports: Chinese authorities have bowed to pressure (ha ha) and will now count asymptomatic virus cases.

    The number won’t be high as most of their asymptomatic cases are buried.

  214. NoFixedAddress

    Calli and Dr BG

    Great descriptions…. thank you both.

  215. Cassie of Sydney

    “The number won’t be high as most of their asymptomatic cases are buried.”

    Cremated first.

  216. The nasty thing about Xi flu in China is the 9mm hole at the back of the head.

  217. bespoke

    calli
    #3387107, posted on April 1, 2020 at 8:17 am
    It’s a beautiful universe.

    It most certainly is, DrBeau

    +1 😁

  218. Knuckle Dragger

    And they’re not going to be spooked into it by idiots believing Joe from Finance who’s in the Army Reserve, and who is just south of Kulgera right now, covered in flies and making sure the border control post tents are set up is the vanguard of the military taking over civilian control of Australia.

    But no. Apparently all these UNARMED RESERVISTS are the face of martial law.

    Jesus Christ. I know this is a suboptimal state of affairs, but geez. Some of these posts are coming from people I thought were approaching normal.

  219. It’s interesting to compare the anti-Chinese sentiment that has been a feature of this site since Covid 19 has become an issue, with ant-semitic propaganda which was a feature of Hitler’s Germany in the thirties.
    Themes (these days we’d call them memes) doing the rounds back then included –
    Je ws were filthy people with filthy habits (Check).
    Je ws were exploiting the host community through hoarding and financial manipulation (Check).
    Je ws were expropriating resources overseas for their own benefit (Check).
    Je ws held no allegiance to anyone except their own (Check).
    Scroll back and check the last week or so of OTs.
    All these memes in relation to the Chinese (usually called Chicoms or Chunks) and the pattern is absolutely consistent.

  220. NoFixedAddress

    ‘We swear by the Southern Cross to stand truly by each other and fight to defend our rights and liberties!’ The diggers’ oath, 30 November 1854.

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