Wednesday Forum: April 1, 2020

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  1. Hay Stockard

    RA both spoiled and despoiled Rugby. Bunch of rapacious nepotistic old boys. Chaps that couldn’t get a job being looked after by the Old Boy network. I do hope every door hits their useless arses on their way out.

  2. Farmer Gez

    A bonking ban.

    My wife was way ahead of the curve on that one.

  3. feelthebern

    Brazil still out of the market for all intents & purposes.

  4. vlad

    My personal hero** is Allan Myers, Australia’s richest lawyer.

    He has a townhouse in the city – location unknown – and owns an entire town in the country – or close enough. He goes to the country pub for dinner and they bring him a bottle of wine out 0f the cellar. His own.

    He didn’t like all those power lines overhead so he had them put underground.

    Some shed on a hill annoyed his view so he bought the property and demolished it.

    A philanthropist as well. And he won the Supreme Court prize* in his year. I’m sure that helped.

    *top of his class at Melbourne.
    ** after Gandhi, Einstein and Enrico Fermi.

  5. Geriatric Mayfly

    Where’s Mango? Has Ferguson the Fearless dropped her monster bombshell yet?

  6. Boambee John

    old bloke

    Time for vengeance for the Kormoran? . That would liven things up along the coffee strip.

    When the German survivors of the Kormoran were being loaded on a ship back to Germany after the war, the Straat Malakka, the Dutch ship which was the cover identity used by the Kormoean to lure Sydney closer, was berthed nearby. I wonder did any of the Germans notice?

  7. Bar Beach Swimmer

    And they made me run around and throw myself repeatedly at the ground for no good reason

    And what was the outcome of that?

    Did things improve for you or did you regress?

  8. feelthebern

    The job keeper abortion should have been on the back burner.
    The rental subsidies need to be announced.
    The landlords are already putting together their blowjob wish list.

  9. Howard Hill

    Leigh Lowe
    #3388290, posted on April 1, 2020 at 9:26 pm

    Watching the ‘Istory Channel.
    Quoting Barnes Wallis during WW2 (paraphrasing) …

    We need to consider the effective use of explosives.
    Bombing tanks and planes is one thing.
    It is far more effective to bomb the factories which manufacture the tanks and planes.
    But the ultimate is to cut off the lifelines of those factories by destroying power generation and transmission infrastructure.”

    Summarises the modern Green agenda perfectly.

    Instead of putting through this prolonged pain, why don’t the just shoot out the interconnectors and be done with it? Then the real fun can begin!

  10. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Can anyone confirm the Melbourne based muesli wedding? Party of 30, free pass, just stay 1.5m apart. Wedding pics say otherwise.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8173931/Coronavirus-wedding-Melbourne-family-allowed-celebrate-despite-restrictions.html

  11. JC

    I’ve told it before, its about that habitual lawfare fat fuck on the other side of the continent. Why Clive was/is an obese porker.

    A mining pal was telling me how he was attending some sort of mining dinner in Melbourne one time and Clive was there. Clive offered him a ride back in the city or home in the limo so they could chat some more. On the way, Clive had the driver stop at a maccas, then went in and bought a burger, (large) chips and a coke. He was still peckish…. after the dinner. To his credit though, Clive went into the joint himself and not the driver.

  12. Sean

    Are we going to see a whole bunch of non-profitable businesses propped up by JobKeeker?

    I can’t help but feel it will really fuck with the price of goods the longer it goes. Unwinding it could be a clusterfuck and cause a whole heap of destruction created by government intervention.

  13. cohenite

    POLICE ‘let a wedding with 30 guests and a drummer go ahead‘ in Melbourne despite a ban on ceremonies with more than five guests – just telling them to keep 1.5m apart
    A wedding with more than 30 guests went ahead at the weekend despite strict social distancing rules
    Victoria Police visited the Melbourne nuptials with the party told they could continue if they kept 1.5m away
    Prime Minister Scott Morrison ruled only five people can attend: bride, groom, celebrant and two witnesses
    Even stricter restrictions on gatherings of more than two people have kicked in since the nuptials
    Do you know more? Contact our reporters: [email protected]

    An RoP event.

    How much more can our stinking scum pollies insult average punters: overseas cruise ships get open door treatment establishing the chunk virus; bureaucrats not only keep all their jobs but get wage rises; chunk companies pilfer all our medical supplies and create the panic buying and are still in business; and RoPs are exempt from gathering rules.

  14. feelthebern

    Allan Myers acted for someone I know pro bono.
    A bank was trying to screw over a staff member.
    When the bank saw he was acting for them, they settled immediately.

  15. JC

    Cronkite

    If you knew him why didn’t he ask you to represent him 🙂

  16. Knuckle Dragger

    Allan Myers.

    Used to (and may still) own Tipperary Station, one of the biggest in the northern NT.

  17. Bar Beach Swimmer

    My State was derided as the second most loony toon place in Australia

    Only the second? For what reason did you not take out first place?

  18. Farmer Gez

    Don’t you love the Coles advert thanking their ‘team’ in these tough times.
    Farmers get a small mention.
    Shelf stackers rule the world.

  19. JC

    Whoops… Wrong person Bern. I thought it was our crack legal eagle’s comment.

  20. vlad

    On the way, Clive had the driver stop at a maccas, then went in and bought a burger, (large) chips and a coke. He was still peckish…. after the dinner. To his credit though, Clive went into the joint himself and not the driver.

    Ugh, Maccas.

    I wouldn’t be seen dead there. Hungry Jacks where I met John Elliott is the place to be.

  21. Bushkid

    A Herc would be just the ticket.
    One each if nec
    Get a really strong jumpmaster

    Just palletise and put a big parachute on it.

    Saves on airport fees too.

  22. Nick

    The AFL, cheered on by the usual suspects, were so full of cash and hubris that they thought they could lecture all and sundry on all manner of ‘social’ issues. It’s a pity that when it returns, no player will dare to question why their lost wages prop up QWERTY week.

  23. Knuckle Dragger:

    This is why I am steadfastly of the view that this is not a master plan by the gummints to take over this country under the guise of pandemicness, using the Army Reserve to help.
    They are far too fucking stupid to think this up, and are more concerned with looking bad at pressers – one-upping each other until the winner gets everyone in his/her State buried alive for their own good.

    Watching this Exercise Epidemic in Multiple Flavours is so funny, I’ve forgotten the code to my wine cellar – Excuse me – Winstons Wuhan Zombie Virus Last Redoubt For The Human Race.
    Hang on, it’s in my Magnetic Key Holder Granite Rock Collection
    I couldn’t afford the granite rock tray to put it in, so I got the cheaper River rock collection – it stands out a bit, but I saved nearly $8 on freight alone!

  24. cohenite

    Get your act together head prefect; mistakes like that lose wars.

  25. vlad

    Bernie “Siegfried” Kopell is still alive, by the way. Aged 86.

  26. Leigh Lowe

    vlad

    #3388280, posted on April 1, 2020 at 9:23 pm

    The best years of the VFL/AFL were those when they had a gentleman’s agreement with HSV-7 and the players all had day jobs as plumbers and roof tilers.

    Or window cleaners.
    True story (leave the NYC fire engine in the garage JC).
    In the mid 1980’s I worked out in the Western suburbs on the second floor of a satanic mill.
    One day, engrossed in work (ie snoozing), I heard a tap on the window behind me.

    “Don’t let me bother you, mate. Just cleanin’ the windas!”

    The winda cleaner was Terry Daniher, who was the premiership captain of Essendon footy club just two werks before.
    A different world.

  27. Boambee John

    notafan
    #3388258, posted on April 1, 2020 at 9:10 pm
    No thanks

    Even road spikes are a form of terrorism.

    Gandhian passive resistance it is then.

    PS, it is more likely to be the police than the Army.

  28. EvilElvis

    FTB, when it comes to Twiggy you’re either an FMG man or an Anaconda man. Polar opposites.

  29. Infidel Tiger

    POLICE ‘let a wedding with 30 guests and a drummer go ahead‘ in Melbourne despite a ban on ceremonies with more than five guests – just telling them to keep 1.5m apart
    A wedding with more than 30 guests went ahead at the weekend despite strict social distancing rules
    Victoria Police visited the Melbourne nuptials with the party told they could continue if they kept 1.5m away
    Prime Minister Scott Morrison ruled only five people can attend: bride, groom, celebrant and two witnesses
    Even stricter restrictions on gatherings of more than two people have kicked in since the nuptials
    Do you know more? Contact our reporters: [email protected]

    Good for them.

    If only other Australians had their moxie.

  30. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘A wedding with more than 30 guests went ahead at the weekend despite strict social distancing rules’

    Fuckwits. Exactly what I’m talking about. Inconsistent hypocrisy. One for them, another for us. I’ll have no sympathy whatsoever if the cops (hopefully traffic cops) decide to crank on at three lightly built blokes walking down a street together in Altona, and they turn out to be welterweight title holders and deck all assembled.

    Eleven baggage handlers went down at once in Adelaide, mostly family and extended family members. Apparently they weren’t culturally accepting of social distance, so they didn’t bother. Allowed to continue on. Now crook.

    Fuckwits.

  31. Boambee John

    feelthebern
    #3388287, posted on April 1, 2020 at 9:24 pm
    Crikey.
    Even Pauline Hanson is poking holes in the Job Keeper scheme.
    How did that get out of the lab?

    m0nty was gloating the other day about the ALP and the ACTU now being the government. I think it was made up by Combet and the ACTU boss, so it is hardly surprising that it is a crock.

  32. feelthebern

    I’ve assembled a new chair for my home office tonight.
    It’s a gamers chair.
    Seriously the best office chair I’ve ever had.
    Thinking about getting one for the office.
    No wonder those gamers can play for 12 hours straight.

  33. bespoke

    Bar Beach Swimmer
    #3388309, posted on April 1, 2020 at 9:35 pm
    My State was derided as the second most loony toon place in Australia

    Only the second? For what reason did you not take out first place?

    Bob Brown

  34. vlad

    The winda cleaner was Terry Daniher, who was the premiership captain of Essendon footy club just two werks before.
    A different world.

    Great story. Better days.

    What was Warwick Capper’s day job? Does anyone know? He cops a lot of flak but was one of the most spectacular markers the game has ever seen.

  35. feelthebern

    Elvis, just watch the cashflows.
    I got stung on Anaconda, but checked out pretty early.
    Water under the bridge.

  36. rickw

    What a shit country no longer being able to own the classics that we built:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4YzyLKBFOOk

  37. Ellie

    Had a nice take on fried rice tonight. It had a tom yum flavour, and with pineapple, of course. Why is pineapple ok with rice, but not on pizza. Carbs and sweetness go well together.

  38. Leigh Lowe

    feelthebern
    #3388306, posted on April 1, 2020 at 9:33 pm
    Allan Myers acted for someone I know pro bono.
    A bank was trying to screw over a staff member.
    When the bank saw he was acting for them, they settled immediately.

    Unusual dude.
    Hot-shot tax QC. I think he made a motzer taking a success fee position on some of Alan Bond’s more audacious deals.
    Hooked into the arts community, and I think was a staunch supporter of art restorer Mohamed Sidique who was accused (and acquitted it should be said) of doing Brett Whitley knock offs.
    Myers built a yuuuge estate in the tiny town of Dunkeld (where he grew up) and developed the Royal Mail hotel there into a high-end restaurant.
    I have always wondered about the need to return to and dominate the town where he grew up.

  39. cohenite

    If only other Australians had their moxie.

    That’s right stalker; we should all be RoP; no one has more moxie than RoP; except the chunks. You want moxie, you’re going to get moxie fair up the clacker.

  40. Tel

    How much more can our stinking scum pollies insult average punters: overseas cruise ships get open door treatment establishing the chunk virus; bureaucrats not only keep all their jobs but get wage rises; chunk companies pilfer all our medical supplies and create the panic buying and are still in business; and RoPs are exempt from gathering rules.

    Doctors get “legal loopholes” and allowed to shoot through quarantine.
    Foreign students get special exemption by dog-legging it via a third country.
    Universities are exempted from magic distance laws, but beaches, golf and parks are closed regardless of magic distance.

    I think we are finally crystallizing the true meaning of “reasonable” … if you are a protected political class then what you do is “reasonable” and you can go about your business, everyone else can Far Cough. To the political class, the word “essential” actually means “stuff we care about” … I suppose that’s what economics teaches you, everyone is acting in their own interests, some are honest about that and some lie.

  41. Infidel Tiger

    Five health workers in remote WA infected
    Five health workers have tested positive to coronavirus in the remote Kimberley region where half of all residents are indigenous.

    The new cases include an employee of the WA Country Health Service in Halls Creek, a service hub for remote Aboriginal communities and the place where desert people often go for medical appointments and treatment.

    Three of the other Kimberley health workers were in the region’s largest town of Broome and one was in the town of Kununurra near the Northern Territory border. All three towns have hospitals that treat people from outlying settlements, where there are small clinics but no capacity for operations.

    The cases created deep concern after the state and Commonwealth governments made careful plans in recent weeks to cut off travel to the region and in particular to remote indigenous communities. The WA Department of Communities has helped dozens of indigenous people return to remote communities from regional towns believing they are safer there.

    About 17,000 of the Kimberley’s 34,000 residents are indigenous and considered especially vulnerable to COVID-19 because they have a higher incidence of underlying health issues such as diabetes and heart conditions.

    West Australian Health Minister Roger Cook announced the number of known cases of COVID-19 in the Kimberley had doubled overnight on Tuesday from six to 12. Five of the six new Kimberley cases were health workers employed by the state government.

    Halls Creek is the nearest town to dozens of remote settlements including the Tanami Desert community of Balgo where residents are racing to build a “Tanami Ark” for its elders. There are fears of an imminent coronavirus outbreak after some locals ignored advice not to let residents return from infected areas without first spending 14 days in isolation elsewhere.

    Balgo, which is home to about 400 people living 500km south of Kununurra in northern Western Australia, had until Monday been striving to make those who claimed residency quarantine themselves outside the community before coming back.

    How the hell did this happen?

    This is very worrying.

  42. Howard Hill

    This is probably a dumb question, but what does RoP stand for?

  43. Bar Beach Swimmer

    So I can assume they are still waiting in the bus, then?

    Winston,
    Only if it’s in Kosovo, ‘cause that’s where most of them went after their demonstration against our accommodation.

    (I had a quick search but can’t find the original Newcastle Herald Article. I did find an article about a family who were celebrating 10 years in 2009 in Australia. That report notes, however, that the family went back to Kosovo and then later came out again. There is a reference to being sponsored but it didn’t provide any other information.)

  44. Infidel Tiger

    That’s right stalker; we should all be RoP; no one has more moxie than RoP; except the chunks. You want moxie, you’re going to get moxie fair up the clacker.

    Excuse me strange internet person, but why do you call me “stalker”?

    I can barely remember reading anything you have posted let alone caring a jot for your existence.

  45. Infidel Tiger

    Allan Myers has the best wine collection in the Southern Hemisphere.

  46. feelthebern

    What the fvck is happening in WA Tiger King ?
    Place is falling apart !

  47. MatrixTransform

    what does RoP stand for

    Really Old Politics

  48. egg_

    egg – that must have been terrible for you to read
    RUOK??

    My Filipina friend told me I wouldn’t like their traditional food (she’s originally from Samar Is), so I looked it up – she was right!

  49. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Winston, I agree there are too many ships and we should triage their needs and try to send some of them home with their crews. But if we need to help some passengers (crew another matter except for those ill) then we could demand their passports and label the individuals with country of origin, ready for repatriation after 14 days. Staggered and thoroughly monitored entry into basic quarantine facilities is humane and possible. It has already worked for 800 Germans repatriated in WA.

    Helping those in peril on the sea is an obligation. Refugee advocates can go hang. This has nothing to do with refugee status ,

  50. Some History

    This is probably a dumb question, but what does RoP stand for?

    Religion of Peace/Pieces – Is lam

  51. Sean

    So if I’m understanding this right with the government money

    Group A is going to go out and spend a whole heap more at store B (supermarket + booze) who will not be able to alter their prices in ‘war lockdown mode’

    Putting money in the hands of B, who then go and spend at C (increased demand prices go up)

    C then go to D (increased demand and prices up)
    So slowly eating away at the purchasing power created by the checks to A anyway.

    Now if the checks to A stop…B loses demand, C loses demand and D loses demand, all of whom hired people and got bigger due to the increased capital and we now have a bunch of misallocated capital and a longer slower recovery when it pops.

    We all pay more for B, C and D and then have to pay back A through higher taxes in the future.

  52. EvilElvis

    How the hell did this happen?

    Public service just taking the complete and utter piss.

  53. Knuckle Dragger

    No cruise ships, and to hell with the passengers.

    As the AC130 gunship pilots say, ‘Hit it’.

  54. MatrixTransform

    The missus and the biz partner’s missus are both employees.

    a colleague suggested we sack ’em both … better money.

    … your money

  55. Knuckle Dragger

    For a bit of nostalgia, just re-watched Dominic Frisby’s ’17 Million Fuck Offs’, the defining tune of the Brexit era.

    Better times.

  56. JC

    Watching Fierce People on Netflix or whatever.

    Diane Lane in 2007 was incredibly beautiful. One of the hottest women ever.

  57. Infidel Tiger

    Open borders could wipe out all our aboriginals.

    All that will be left is white skinned arts graduates named Sebastian.

  58. vlad

    Allan Myers made his serious money out of a single investment. He had a lazy ten million – as you do – and put it into a Polish brewery that went through the roof.

  59. Leigh Lowe

    Nick

    #3388315, posted on April 1, 2020 at 9:36 pm

    The AFL, cheered on by the usual suspects, were so full of cash and hubris that they thought they could lecture all and sundry on all manner of ‘social’ issues. It’s a pity that when it returns, no player will dare to question why their lost wages prop up QWERTY week.

    I think that is changing.
    Two notable morons (Jack Riewoldt and Patrick Dangerfield) have been having a sook about taking a cut on their million dollar salaries.
    Listening to 3AW the other night to a show hosted by some Gen Z dick who has played precisely nought games of footy at any level. “Scoop” was his nick-name. You know the sort … 30% hair gel and tooth whitener … stovepipe navy blue trousers, brown shoes, no socks.
    Anyway, a lifelong Richmond supporter calls in to say he is done with the Tigers after Riewoldt’s dummy spit.
    “Scoop” is incredulous.
    Accusing even.

    “You’d give the Tiges away after all those years? Really? I mean, these players have contracts.”

    The reply from the caller?

    “Contracts? They have contracts? So did four of my mates who got the arse this week.”

  60. Howard Hill

    Thanks, MatrixTransform

  61. Leigh Lowe

    vlad

    #3388363, posted on April 1, 2020 at 10:17 pm

    Allan Myers made his serious money out of a single investment. He had a lazy ten million – as you do – and put it into a Polish brewery that went through the roof.

    That is the one.
    Instead of legal advisory fees, he took equity in a brewery being acquired by Alan Bond.

  62. vlad

    Bloody hell. 10.19 pm already.

    Way past my bedtime.

    Almost time for Sinc to come in and deliver the epilogue.

    Good night.

  63. Lazlo

    No cruise ships, and to hell with the passengers

    Gee, under the Geneva Convention we give medical help to prisoners of war, who were yesterday trying to kill us.

    Common humanity is dying, especially on this blog/sewer.

  64. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘“Contracts? They have contracts? So did four of my mates who got the arse this week.”’

    That bloke’s mates should have all got their jobs back on the strength of that comment alone.

    Or, preferably, much higher paid jobs as AFL Social Media Marketing Advisors.

    On contracts.

  65. vlad

    Or, preferably, much higher paid jobs as AFL Social Media Marketing Advisors.

    Or even higher as AWFL Social Media Marketing Advisors.

  66. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Common humanity is dying, especially on this blog/sewer.’

    Not really.

    I just care much more for the common humanity of my countrymen, who if just one more plague carrier sets foot on our shores from one of these death ships, our stupid, stupid leaders will crush just that little bit further.

    ‘Hit it’.

  67. Knuckle Dragger

    All right, okay, all right.

    Countrywomen too.

    No fat chicks.

  68. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Even in wartime we gave succor to the injured enemy. Current cruise ship issues do present an ethical and moral problem, which does require some thought and discussion.

    I don’t expect all here to agree with me that we should show human compassion. But I think we should. Basic compassion, but still a helping hand offered to the extent that we realistically can.

    Again, nothing to do with refugees or the legal status of these people who have passports and are clearly mere visitors.

  69. EvilElvis

    Having a Facebook to and fro with some fuckwit on a special interest page (motorbikes) about the current saving up of Aussie ICU beds based on Italian figures. FMD. My head hurts. Custard needs a medal for doing this shit for so long, it’s a cesspit.

  70. MatrixTransform

    Current cruise ship issues do present an ethical and moral problem

    too smart … too dumb

  71. Nob

    Howard Hill
    #3388341, posted on April 1, 2020 at 9:58 pm
    This is probably a dumb question, but what does RoP stand for?

    To us drillers, it’s Rate of Penetration.

    To normal people, religion of peace.

  72. cohenite

    I can barely remember reading anything you have posted let alone caring a jot for your existence.

    Of course you don’t stalker.

  73. Leigh Lowe

    Gee, under the Geneva Convention we give medical help to prisoners of war, who were yesterday trying to kill us.

    No worries.
    Load a couple of volunteer Radicales Sans Frontiers on borad and wave them all goodbye.

  74. Infidel Tiger

    Anyone on, or who has been on a cruise ship should be shot.

    Women and children first.

  75. Arky

    Even in wartime we gave succor to the injured enemy.

    ..
    Ewwwwww.

  76. Arky

    Even in wartime we gave succor to the injured enemy.

    ..
    Poor bastards couldn’t get away.

  77. harrys on the boat

    Probably posted before, but worth it again. Trump – Enter Sandman

    https://youtu.be/Yey5MtACi3g

  78. Lazlo

    Not really

    Yes it is. Own it, as you do with evident pride.

  79. Davey Boy

    Coronavirus restrictions imposed on gun shops in Qld, WA spark outrage in rural industries

    Pest controllers and farmers are among those calling for the Queensland Government to scrap a controversial regulation banning firearms dealers from opening due to coronavirus.

    Key points:

    Businesses, the environment and law enforcement capabilities could be seriously hindered by Queensland’s decision to shut down gun shops, opponents say
    A similar regulation has been put in place in Western Australia, but with exceptions that allow certain groups to purchase supplies
    A Queensland MP says one of the unintended consequences of the new rule is that shops that sell ammunition often stock other essential supplies
    The directive from the State’s health department has classed licensed armourers and dealers as “non-essential services”, meaning they will be forced to shut or face fines of more than $13,000.

    North Queensland pest animal controller Kristen Ridge said animal welfare and public safety, as well as her business, would suffer from the new rule.

    “It’s more concern than disappointment — we are an essential service,” Ms Ridge said.

    “If a feral animal is causing any risk to animal or human, we have to be there on the spot to reduce and remove that risk.”

    Consultation lacking, pest controller says

    Ms Ridge described the ruling as knee-jerk and said the Government had failed to consult the pest control sector.

    “We heard whispers of it on Saturday — yesterday we confirmed it through emails and phone calls,” she said.

    “Nothing was openly announced.”

    Different rules for different states

    In Western Australia a regulation has been enacted that has seen gun shops to close to the general public, but with some exceptions.

    Primary producers, professional pest shooters and Indigenous people exercising native title rights to hunt are allowed to access products and services.
    Shooting Industry Federation of Australia spokeswoman Laura Patterson said the patchwork of legal responses were failing Australians.

    “We found out at the same time everyone else did, there was no consultation,” Ms Patterson said.

    “As a result there are unintended consequences over poorly-crafted policy.”

    ‘Unintended consequences’

    Nick Dametto, the Katter’s Australian Party member in the Queensland Parliament, said details on why the policy was enacted were unclear.

    “It’s probably been done with the best intentions, but not understanding the unintended consequences,” he said.

    “Businesses in rural Queensland may sell firearms, but also dog food and rural supplies as well.

    “People are saying ‘I sell firearms, but can I open to sell fencing supplies as well’ — all these questions aren’t being answered.”

  80. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I was pleased to see Rita Panahi taking a similar position tonight on Bolt re assisting cruise passengers, saying too that it would make her unpopular.

    This blog is not a sewer, btw. Sometimes arguments here are forcefully put. That’s ok by me, and there is nothing wrong with an Aussies First perspective. But in my view, in this overhyped situation, we are a long way from being unable to help those in need on our very shores, which we could do effectively without viral risk if proper procedures are followed.

    We could end up regretting our mean spiritedness later if we don’t help now and our moral failures become apparent and define us as moral pigmies.

    This is not, again I stress, a matter of holding firm borders. This is simple humanity, like dealing with a plane crash within our sea areas.

  81. vlad

    Basic compassion, but still a helping hand offered to the extent that we realistically can.

    They’re welcome to dock at Christmas Island and disembark there.

  82. cohenite

    Howard Hill
    #3388341, posted on April 1, 2020 at 9:58 pm
    This is probably a dumb question, but what does RoP stand for?

    I use the acronym since m.sl.m is banned.

    I mean it to mean religion of pieces, given their predilection for blowing themselves and other poor sods up; and also ripping to pieces any and all host societies. Still there are some who like their moxie; whatever the fuck that means.

  83. Howard Hill

    To us drillers, it’s Rate of Penetration.

    To normal people, religion of peace.

    Ah yes, Religion of Pieces sounds more like it. Thanks, Nob.

  84. Lazlo

    Don’t expect any mutuality when you are in trouble in a foreign country KD.

    ‘Hit you’.

  85. rickw

    Tree felling accidents (basically what would happen if Ausgov were in the tree felling business):

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bilwLqB8jVM

  86. MatrixTransform

    which we could do effectively without viral risk if proper procedures are followed.

    torpedo the boats

  87. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Load a couple of volunteer Radicales Sans Frontiers on borad and wave them all goodbye.’

    No no no. I’ve changed my mind.

    There are 33 doctors in this country who thought they were sooooo good at doctoring they didn’t need to follow the rules, and ended up infecting the rest of the country. Penance time.

    A packet of bandaids for each. Pinochet chopper ride, landing (hopefully) on the poop deck. Next to the shuffleboard court/deck/rink/arena.

    The survivors can make the lepers all good again, as it sails back through the Southern Ocean to Patagonia.

  88. cohenite

    Nick Dametto, the Katter’s Australian Party member in the Queensland Parliament, said details on why the policy was enacted were unclear.
    “It’s probably been done with the best intentions, but not understanding the unintended consequences,” he said.

    Nothing any government does to restrict legal ownership of guns is done with the best intentions.

  89. vlad

    We could end up regretting our mean spiritedness later

    Not me. PM Vlad would have closed all incoming travel from everywhere from day one. Everyone go to Christmas Island.

    And you’d have been kissing my feet for it.

  90. Leigh Lowe

    Even in wartime we gave succor to the injured enemy. Current cruise ship issues do present an ethical and moral problem, which does require some thought and discussion

    No they don’t.
    They won’t even divulge details of illnesses on board.
    The prick on the bridge of the Ruby Princess lied through his fucking teeth, aided and abetted by friendlies in the NSW Government and Sydney CC.
    The precedent in this country is the arrogant arsewipe at the helm of the MV Tampa who bleated “maritime law” and tried to transport illegals across the moat.
    Resolution:-
    1. Allow Australian passport holders off under strict quarantine. Not “Australian residents.” Passport holders only. If they are dual passport holders travelling on a second passport, stiff shit. Go with the passport you are carrying.
    2. Sell them provisions, fuel and water at market rates.
    3. Ask for doctors to volunteer to jump on board.
    4. Tell them to fuck off home.
    5. Moral dilemma resolved.

  91. MatrixTransform

    Betty, you and the hirsute one put everybody at risk.
    For a vanity.

    here you are presenting a new solution
    … to the problem that people like yourself created

    sorry.
    No

  92. vlad

    A packet of bandaids for each. Pinochet chopper ride, landing (hopefully) on the poop deck. Next to the shuffleboard court/deck/rink/arena.

    That’s a little harsh. I’d keelhaul them before letting them off at Christmas Island.

  93. EvilElvis

    But in my view, in this overhyped situation, we are a long way from being unable to help those in need on our very shores, which we could do effectively without viral risk if proper procedures are followed.

    There’s not one thing wrong with this, Lizzie.

    In a sane, competent land it would be a no brainer. The current effort regarding the virus shows the powers that be and a large proportion of the PS who would implement the procedures as neither. Unfortunately for those truly in need.

  94. JC

    Cronkite

    Who’s on your hate list next week?

  95. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Don’t expect any mutuality when you are in trouble in a foreign country KD.’

    Haven’t so far Lazza, and don’t plan to in the future. And that’s okay. Their country, etc.

    You can invite arsonists into your home buddy, but not when it’s my home too.

  96. Howard Hill

    Tree felling accidents (basically what would happen if Ausgov were in the tree felling business):

    Normal day at the office for our stupid quislings 🙂

  97. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Christmas Island would be a fine solution if there was time and space, Vlad. No-one is talking luxury here. Fly them there perhaps?

  98. Infidel Tiger

    Worse than the cruise ship debacle, there has been a China Flu outbreak on the USS Theodore Roosevelt.

    Not good at all.

  99. MatrixTransform

    We could end up regretting our mean spiritedness later if we don’t help now and our moral failures become apparent and define us as moral pigmies.

    I read earlier today that theTard is looking for a friend

  100. Infidel Tiger

    He hates me because of you JC.

    Guilt by association

  101. cohenite

    More news from the whacky and moxie filled world of the RoP and their fucking dhimmis in the West including that lanky piece of shit de Blasio who has closed all Christian churches but not the RoP:

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/

  102. Infidel Tiger

    Send the cruise ships to Heard Island.

    In a hundred years we’ll check back and see what they came up with.

  103. cohenite

    Who’s on your hate list next week?

    No one head prefect; now go and give stalker a hug, you pillow puncher, you.

  104. vlad

    Fly them there perhaps?

    If they’re on a ship they can sail there. Whatever it takes. Christmas Island is a compassionate compromise. But they’re not coming on to the mainland. That’s false compassion.

  105. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Time for those public health people, who have been acting as dumbos so far, to hit their straps and show their mettle assisting the armed forces to do a good safe compassionate job, EvilElvis.

  106. egg_

    Diane Lane in 2007 was incredibly beautiful. One of the hottest women ever.

    +1

    Hawt as in A Perfect Storm

  107. Lazlo

    Intelligent, nuanced civilisations have been dealing with public health emergencies for centuries. Never helped by witch burners like KD.

  108. JC

    Leave me out if this artie. You’ve obviously offended the crack legal eagle. Nothing to do with me.

    Cronkite, what did artie do to get you holding a grudge that? Explain.

  109. Leigh Lowe

    OK.
    Lizzie.
    Moral dilemma time.
    There are 500 ICU beds in Perth.
    We unload a bunch of Kraut tourists off a cruise ship.
    200 of the Krauts have Kung Flu and 100 need intensive care.
    10,000 native Sandgropers get Kung Flu and 450 require ICU treatment.
    Who gets compassionate ICU treatment?
    500 ICU spots.
    100 Krauts.
    450 locals, many of whom have paid Medicare and private Australian health insurance.
    You choose.

  110. vlad

    I said it here weeks ago when Hunt was allowing some load of students in on compassionate grounds that he was a moron. Quarantine allows no exceptions – because neither does the disease. We have to be as mindlessly ruthless as the virus itself. All else is sentimentality.

  111. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘our moral failures become apparent and define us as moral pigmies.’

    I’m a long way from convinced that the actual virus is the problem. But if it is everything our betters in CMO offices and the media tell us, then it is imperative that the ship be set on fire and sunk with all hands.

    Because that is what we are being told to do. If we can’t hold a chick’s hand in the street, why the hell would we instantly import hundreds of parasite and virus-loaded furriners who’ll go straight to the hospitals we’re supposed to have cleared out for our own elderly?

    Hit it.

  112. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Assistance to sail there is fine by me if the ill are immediately ship isolated or taken to hospital and the well crew work in sanitized conditions. Just get them onto dry land and give them a chance to fly home.

  113. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Anyone seen 8th Dan round lately? Perhaps he’s dead of the dreaded pox?

  114. JC

    Fredo

    Stop trying to elevate yourself. No one buys it.

  115. cohenite

    what did artie do to get you holding a grudge that? Explain.

    I don’t know who artie is; anyway a gentleman never explains.

    As for your choice of beautiful women I’ll leave you with Dorothy Eaton, the last Ziegfeld girl:

  116. vlad

    Disappeared the same time as Porter. Just sayin’.

  117. Pedro the Loafer

    Bloody Hell. I was afraid of this, and sadly it has come to pass.

    The Kung Flu has gotten loose in the Kimberley.

    No amount of bullshit .gov “directives” will convince the aboriginal population to practice social distancing, personal hygiene measures or restrictions on travel. It is likely to decimate the remote communities and absolutely overwhelm the primitive medical facilities, usually just a nurse or two and a tele link to a doctor in Perth. The Flying Doctor is often the first resort for these outposts and the whole of the RAAF transport fleet won’t be enough to airlift patients.

  118. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Just get them onto dry land’

    No problem. Kalumburu, otherwise known as Runaway Bay.

    There’d be just enough magic Dark Emu doctors there to have it sorted.

  119. EvilElvis

    Time for those public health people, who have been acting as dumbos so far, to hit their straps and show their mettle assisting the armed forces to do a good safe compassionate job, EvilElvis.

    I think the trust bridge has well and truly been burnt, Lizzie. There’s a battle inside most public servants now between trying to think what’s best to do or sticking with their ingrained virtuosness.

  120. Steve trickler

    Filmed between 11. to 13. March 2020.

    Have a listen to it.



  121. vlad

    That chick is borderline something philia.

    Women, not girls, rule vlad’s world.

  122. Lazlo

    Perfect Police State thinking there KD. Zeig!

  123. JC

    As for your choice of beautiful women I’ll leave you with Dorothy Eaton, the last Ziegfeld girl:

    Jowls are too big. Any larger and she’d be mistaken for a grouper (fish).

  124. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘The Kung Flu has gotten loose in the Kimberley.’

    Fuck.

    This had better not be those virtuous yet sickly ‘health’ workers.

    The single NT/WA border crossing/control post the other side of Timber Creek on the Vic Highway had better jump to 20 tonight, because there’s endless corrugated sandy bush tracks between there and Docker Rover in the southwest corner.

  125. feelthebern

    Emily Blunt.
    Best on ground.

  126. Lazlo

    Those numbers are way overblown LL.

    It’s like the Climate Cult.

  127. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    No amount of bullshit .gov “directives” will convince the aboriginal population to practice social distancing, personal hygiene measures or restrictions on travel

    It will all be whitefella’s fault, though.

  128. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Quarantine is not hospitalisation. Very few will require that.

    I’m heading for a bath in quarantine now in my own marble bathroom using complementary By Royal Appointment bubble bath courtesy of Cunard’s Queen Mary ‘crossing’ from Southamptom to New York.

    As we used to say in primary school in the olden days: put that in your pipe and smoke it. In other words I have said my piece, now over and out.

    Soon enough life will return to normal.
    I am practicing for that now.
    Play safe, Cats. 🙂

  129. Infidel Tiger

    Cohenite did you just link to a page with pictures of young girls?

    Dude I know you like the Romantics, but there’s no need to go full nazi weirdo just yet.

  130. Knuckle Dragger

    Lazlo. Compassionate yet useless visitor.

    If this gets into the Kimberley as Pedro suggests, every single indig in WA should be given a hospital bed before Passenger One of that death ship, and even then it’ll be too late.

    If you’re that interested, head on out to the beach and start swimming. For the sake of infected foreigners. Bring back some dunny roll from the stateroom.

  131. EvilElvis

    ‘The Kung Flu has gotten loose in the Kimberley.’

    Not even 24 hours into the regional movement ban and the public service has dropped the infected straight into an indigenous hot spot. What a fucking farce!

  132. Pedro the Loafer

    KFD, I could show anyone a half a dozen ways to get across the WA/NT border away from the Vic.

    The mobs rarely use main roads anyway, and the slygroggers and ganja merchants have a huge network of access roads through the bush.

    This is a looming disaster for the Norwest.

  133. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Locals first in any genuine crisis, btw. Triage is also done on health, age and likelihood of survival. We are a long way from that so far.

  134. Lazlo

    OK KD. Everyone understands what you are, very clearly stated, and can have their own opinions on how we treat other human beings.

  135. Leigh Lowe

    Lazlo

    #3388445, posted on April 1, 2020 at 11:04 pm

    Those numbers are way overblown LL.

    And, if the numbers of cases on the ship are overblown, they can comfortably sail away.
    Bon voyage, dude.

  136. Knuckle Dragger

    I know Pedro.

    Should have added a 0 to that 20 I mentioned.

    The border may as well go from Timber Creek through Lajamanu to Tennant Creek.

  137. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    This is a looming disaster for the Norwest.

    Five cases so far, and I would have bet good money that this is why the McGowan Government banned all travel between the regions.

  138. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Lazlo was commenting here years ago, long before you arrived KD. Just saying. Seems mostly to have been a lurker in recent times.

  139. feelthebern

    When did these pricks board the ship?
    Pack of retards.

  140. Infidel Tiger

    Life will never be the same again.

    Cruise ships are finished. They will be reconfigured as morgues, hospitals and dive wrecks.

  141. Tel

    Gee, under the Geneva Convention we give medical help to prisoners of war, who were yesterday trying to kill us.

    That’s right and the people on the cruise ships should be happy to do their bit to help out by staying away, just like people in the war were doing their bit. We are all in this together … so do it my way … understand?

    It’s only temporary (just like income tax, and guest workers) so they can come back when this is all over.

  142. Knuckle Dragger

    I didn’t mean visitor to the Cat, Lizzie.

  143. Leigh Lowe

    Locals first in any genuine crisis, btw. Triage is also done on health, age and likelihood of survival. We are a long way from that so far.

    Well, they have put the jackboot on the throat of the economy on the basis of their own assessment that “the health system could be overwhelmed”.
    So, by their own assessment, we may have to prioritise a reasonably healthy 55 year old Kraut cruise-ship tourist over a 65 year old indigenous man who is a smoker with diabetes and heart disease.

  144. MatrixTransform

    commenting here years ago

    on a cruise just days ago …

  145. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger

    #3388460, posted on April 1, 2020 at 11:16 pm

    Life will never be the same again.

    Cruise ships are finished. They will be reconfigured as morgues, hospitals and dive wrecks

    If only we had submarines capable of torpedoing them.

  146. vlad

    okay, this is way past my bed time.

    and i’m lovin’ it but: good. night.

  147. feelthebern

    Real shock jocks from the US.

  148. Tel

    It will all be whitefella’s fault, though.

    In this case seems to have been the white do gooders and medical staff who brought it in.

    Could be wrong, but that’s sure what it looks like.

    Remember when the horse flu did the rounds in Australia and wherever the vets charged around checking for horse flu, three days later the horses got sick? Yeah, well that story might be repeating itself.

  149. feelthebern

    Australia doesn’t have any real shock jocks.

  150. Mark A

    Didn’t realise there was a ranking order at the Cat based on seniority.
    One does learn a new thing every day,😜😎

  151. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘WA Country Health Service have confirmed of the nine new regional cases announced today by Minister for Health Roger Cook, six were in the Kimberley.

    ‘Five of those were health workers – three in Broome, one in Kununurra and one in Halls Creek.’

    Oh, ripping. Just fucking ripping. Very mobile, very portable indig heath workers.

  152. Twostix

    Strange how all over the world governments are enacting identical laws and identical “blunders” (like innocently banning guns shops which california just did too) on the exact same day.

    Almost like there’s an international collaboaration going on by our very internationalist “experts” class.

  153. Lazlo

    How do you know that MT?

  154. Lazlo

    The health system will not be overwhelmed. Look at the data (not the models) and get some perspective ffs.

  155. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘How do you know that MT?’

    Hahahahaaaaaaa.

    Worst giveaway ever.

  156. Infidel Tiger

    I’ll bet my arse these health workers only recently flew in and didn’t quarantine.

    Of all the places to send them to.

  157. MatrixTransform

    How do you know that MT?

    I’m just a dumb trady … the fuck would I know eh?

  158. Knuckle Dragger

    Lazlo’s last name appears to be Cunard.

  159. feelthebern

    So public servants have infected more people than any other group.

  160. Old School Conservative

    Three-quarters of all deaths in Australia resulting from the corona­virus pandemic are linked to just three sources of infection — the Ruby Princess and three other returning cruise ships, an aged-care facility and the cancer treatment ward of a major metropolitan public hospital.
    (The Australian)

    So 75% of all deaths come from just 3 sources – yet the entire Australian economy has to be trashed and social cohesion turned upside down.

    Morrison must start walking back the “reforms” and building defences against the real causes of the spreading infection. I’m sure he’s got some smart speech writers who can make him sound good in doing a flip flop.

  161. Tel

    I’ll bet my arse these health workers only recently flew in and didn’t quarantine.

    Of all the places to send them to.

    If it was random, then now and then something would come out in our favour … if only by accident.

    There’s a peculiar mix of opportunism, useful idiocy and outright sabotage going on right now, making it challenging and interesting to untangle.

  162. Lazlo

    I don’t know what you do MT. Though the normal spelling is tradey. You and KD seem to have quite a twosome gang going. Cunard?

  163. MatrixTransform

    Laz, did you just get of a cruise as well?

    …and dishing out the good medical epidemiological info.

    equivalent to, “yeah, nah, she’ll be right mate”

    ? ffs ?

  164. Lazlo

    Your comment is incomprehensible MT.

  165. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘There’s a peculiar mix of opportunism, useful idiocy and outright sabotage going on right now, making it challenging and interesting to untangle.’

    This is bang on the money.

    For a bit of useful idiocy, have a look at the last 15 minutes or so upthread.

  166. MatrixTransform

    Though the normal spelling is tradey

    Lazlo Cunard ?

    ok. fine. doesn’t sound like anything

    perhaps KD and I grew up in the same slum?

  167. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Though the normal spelling is tradey’

    Ah, no. Not in Australia.

    I’ve got five pairs of jocks that say different.

  168. MatrixTransform

    How do you know that MT?

    alright … Mr. trying to make coherent sense.

    … how do I know what?

  169. MatrixTransform

    I’ve got five pairs of jocks that say different.

    you sad bastard.
    I can’t believe you admitted that in public

  170. BorisG

    Last week I was condemned for citing a modelling study, which estimated the US death from coronavirus without containment measure to be about 2 million Yesterday The White House released its own projections , showing that without those measures there will be between 1.5 to 2.5 million.

    Thus served the basis for Trump to extend the shutdown by two more weeks the previous day. With the lockdown they expect the deaths to be between 100,000 and 250,000, 5 to 10 times more than in a seasonal flu. Although Fauci stressed that they are not happy with this figure and would do everything to bring it down.

    Is trump taken for a fool or you finally agree With him this is a grave threat?

  171. zyconoclast


    Watching Fierce People on Netflix or whatever.

    Diane Lane in 2007 was incredibly beautiful. One of the hottest women ever.

    49 Hot Pictures Of Diane Lane Which Are Too Hot To Handle

  172. Knuckle Dragger

    Matrix,

    Obviously, I had to have the pouches pre-stretched.

  173. Steve trickler

    First time for me. The Last Post played on a guitar.



  174. MatrixTransform

    Last week I was condemned for citing a modelling study

    We haven’t heard from yr man-in-wuhan for a while … what’s the goss?

  175. BorisG

    flushing meadows, the home of US Open Tennis, is being transformed into another NYC field hospital.

  176. MatrixTransform

    Obviously, I had to have the pouches pre-stretched.

    on top of the normal ‘trady-space’?

    … kudos

  177. Mark A

    Time to unleash my lame pics.

  178. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘what’s the goss?’

    Welding accident.

  179. BorisG

    We haven’t heard from yr man-in-wuhan for a while

    He is out and about now. Happy he did not take the offer to evacuate to Australia.

    There was an article about him on Sunday in Adelaide Now.

  180. EvilElvis

    I’ve got five pairs of jocks that say different.

    Girlfriend story is obviously a sham then. I’ve been living a lie.

  181. Mark A

    Steve trickler
    #3388504, posted on April 1, 2020 at 11:52 pm

    That was beautiful stickler.

  182. Twostix

    Boris.

    Who is right about visiting girlfriends?

    NSW who say its ok or Victoria who banned it?

    Clearly it can’t be both.

    Uh-oh!

  183. MatrixTransform

    There was an article about him on Sunday in Adelaide Now.

    wot, no stats or observations?

  184. BorisG

    Who is right about visiting girlfriends?

    NSW who say its ok or Victoria who banned it?

    Depends where you live and who you elected.

  185. BorisG

    wot, no stats or observations?

    No just ways to cope with lockdowns.

  186. zyconoclast

    Twostix
    #3388473, posted on April 1, 2020 at 11:26 pm
    Strange how all over the world governments are enacting identical laws and identical “blunders” (like innocently banning guns shops which california just did too) on the exact same day.

    Almost like there’s an international collaboaration going on by our very internationalist “experts” class.

    Like the coincidental change in immigration laws:
    USA 1965
    Australia 1966
    Canada 1967

  187. MatrixTransform

    No just ways to cope with lockdowns.

    gamer. Right?

  188. Rex Mango

    Just heard ABC radio news & Australia on top of this virus. Numbers of infectees keep dropping. Four weeks time we should be out of this hell & re-open the pubs.

  189. Twostix

    Growing up in Soviet Russia in a bolshevik family has made your mind subconsciously favour autocratic action and oppose democratic ideals.

    Like how a child who goes to church will remain christian all their life whether they like it or not.

    So too it is with bolshevism.

    Sorry Boris.

  190. Twostix

    Depends where you live and who you elected.

    Ahahaha

    So “expert” advice is subjective now?

    LOL.

    “Hello fellow democracy supporters, I too am one of you. How about we imprison everyone in their home. Experts say we must, so…”.

  191. Hay Stockard

    Rex Mango,
    Are you sure about the pubs opening in 4 weeks? I have my birthday coming up and want to ,ale arrangements.
    Plus 2,specialists insist I go drinking with my mates.

  192. BorisG

    Growing up in Soviet Russia in a bolshevik family

    My family was anti communist and suffered for it, you clown.

  193. Tel

    Just heard ABC radio news & Australia on top of this virus. Numbers of infectees keep dropping. Four weeks time we should be out of this hell & re-open the pubs.

    See how it goes when Winter comes around and the proper cold & flu season starts up.

  194. BorisG

    So “expert” advice is subjective now?

    Advice is probably uniform but specific decisions are up to the government.

  195. Tel

    Thus served the basis for Trump to extend the shutdown by two more weeks the previous day.

    Trump has neither the constitutional authority nor the inclination to extend any “shutdown”.

    The White House issues some guidelines which local authorities are able to take onboard if they choose to do so.

    https://www.axios.com/trump-coronavirus-social-distancing-30-days-29cb77cd-39fb-4ae7-9ab7-eb6cdd314e80.html

  196. egg_

    Anyone seen 8th Dan round lately?

    Consigned to the sock drawer, whilst the other socks are so busy during the “pandemic” feeding frenzy.

  197. Rex Mango

    Hay S, the government will not take their foot off the brake, now that they have discovered how much power they have. So yes, the pubs should be open in four weeks, but sadly the fascist putsch that run this country will milk the crisis for as long as possible. That said, Australia has got this thing beaten.

  198. BorisG

    No one as yet come out and either praised or condemn trump as per my comment from 11:49 pm.

  199. Rex Mango

    This track going out to all the coronavirus sufferers out there & all those in self isolation, keeping the rest of us safe:

  200. areff

    Leigh, you’re being unkind to Scoop McClure, who does wears sock, spurns hair gel and is a pretty decent person and reporter on the whole.

    His old man was an Age sports journalist, and a good one, and Scoop has done his time working up from the bottom. Good kid, hard worker, smart and I like him personally.

    Go one floor down from 3AW and your description would fit every twentysomething newsroom wanker at the Age. But Scoop is nothing like those sorry aggregations of brainless human tissue.

  201. egg_

    Strange how all over the world governments are enacting identical laws and identical “blunders” (like innocently banning guns shops which california just did too) on the exact same day.

    Shades of 911 – will the BBC announce something 30 minutes into the future, just like before.
    Trump being a Troofer ‘n’ all.

  202. egg_

    No one as yet come out and either praised or condemn trump as per my comment from 11:49 pm.

    Troll is me!

  203. egg_

    ‘There’s a peculiar mix of opportunism, useful idiocy and outright sabotage going on right now, making it challenging and interesting to untangle.’

    Unsavoury characters always take advantage of a crisis.

  204. JC

    I think it’s a threat, Boris. But we’ll see. Let’s also watch Sweden and see how their looser policy works at the end and compare.

  205. Howard Hill

    ‘Though the normal spelling is tradey’

    Ah, no. Not in Australia.

    I’ve got five pairs of jocks that say different.

    LOL! These soy boys no nothing, KD 🙂

  206. Howard Hill

    Unsavoury characters always take advantage of a crisis.

    NO. it’s their typical, M.O.
    Problem, Reaction, Solution. Don’t fall for it.

  207. Tel

    No one as yet come out and either praised or condemn trump as per my comment from 11:49 pm.

    Your comment is crap, you pretend that Trump has some special authority that he himself does not claim.

    Why should anyone that that seriously?

  208. Steve trickler

    The opening monologue from Paul Page is a classic. Great history. Worth the 3:30.

    Race start ramps up @1:20:00.



  209. Rex Mango

    Nothing beats a good sea shanty:

  210. BorisG

    Your comment is crap, you pretend that Trump has some special authority that he himself does not claim.

    Simple question: is his policy right or wrong, in your opinion? With all the uncertainly inevitable in such a unique situation?

  211. Leigh Lowe

    Sorry areff, but Scoot did sound a tiny bit “inside the bubble”.
    They are whipping themselves into a frenzy … “the future of the game is at stake.”
    Well, not quite.
    The game will continue on.
    It will still be played on scrubby rural ovals with cars parked around the fence as it always has.

    But the torrent of cash hosing through corporate boxes funded by punters paying $15 for a pie and a beer might have taken a fatal hit.

  212. Rex Mango

    Leigh L. pretty obvious right now that like the Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner, the AFLW is an albatross around the neck of the AFL.

  213. JC

    Simple question: is his policy right or wrong, in your opinion? With all the uncertainly inevitable in such a unique situation?

    I think the policy is wrong. Old people should be isolated and protected and the young ought to go back to work.. I think the stimulus is a huge mistake. I think the Fed should ease even further on monetary policy by targeting nominal income as Scott Sumner argues.

  214. Rex Mango

    AFL has perfect chance to now reconfigure. Adopt a three division system. First division the current AFL. Second Division, being SANFL, WAFL, VFL & few others. Third Division being country football etc. Great thing about having divisions is relegation games become as big as Grand Finals. Problem is Carlton will be relegated quite quickly.

  215. Peter the old fossil

    Wot? No Thursday forum?
    Typical Doomlord – get us all expectant and then lets us down again.
    I’m beginning to think he’s a bit of a sadist.

  216. BorisG

    OK JC. I am more interested in views of those who think Trump can do no wrong.

  217. Tel

    Simple question: is his policy right or wrong, in your opinion? With all the uncertainly inevitable in such a unique situation?

    It’s a simple question that still ignores the fact that Trump is issuing guidelines not policy.

    I’m going to presume that you mean to ask, “Are his guidelines helpful?”

    I’m using this link … https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/03.16.20_coronavirus-guidance_8.5x11_315PM.pdf

    Stay home if you feel sick. Keep your children home if they are sick. If you are at risk then stay out of harm’s way.

    That’s all perfectly reasonable … I give my stamp of approval to that.

    Work from home if possible.

    I have no problem with that, I recommend working from home it’s good if you can do it.

    Some people in critical infrastructure industries have a socialist responsibility to maintain normal work schedule.

    Totally disagree with that one, everyone has a right to quit work if they choose to do so. I’m not a believer in socialist responsibility, so Trump got that one wrong.

    Avoid groups of more than 10 people.

    Sounds like personal choice, I certainly am avoiding such gatherings. Other people might choose otherwise, it’s a guideline only.

    Avoid bars, restaurants, etc

    Same as above, reasonable as a guideline under the circumstances. People might choose otherwise.

    Avoid discretionary travel.

    Personal choice, risk vs reward.

    No not visit nursing homes, etc

    As a guideline, quite reasonable, final say-so is based on the policy of the nursing home. It’s marginal in as much as lack of visits also results in negative impact but this is only a guideline. I will give Trump a pass.

    Practice good hygiene

    I’m fine with that. Where’s my alcohol based hand sanitizer, why can’t I buy any?

    Generally as a guideline these are all OK. I have sufficient hand sanitizer, not as much as I would like. I have bleach as a fallback. If Trump could “nudge” a few more supplies of basic hygiene products into general availability I would appreciate his help.

    Take note: there’s nothing about shutting down beaches and golf courses here. Some other moron thought of those ideas, nothing to do with Trump.

  218. Steve trickler

    Regarding above. This is excellent.



  219. NoFixedAddress

    Steve trickler
    #3388504, posted on April 1, 2020 at 11:52 pm

    First time for me. The Last Post played on a guitar.

    thanks Steve

  220. Leigh Lowe

    Rex Mango

    #3388552, posted on April 2, 2020 at 12:58 am

    Leigh L. pretty obvious right now that like the Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner, the AFLW is an albatross around the neck of the AFL.

    So many albatrosses.
    AWFL.
    Indigenous issues.
    QWERTYs.
    Media liaison.
    Accredited jis’ms.
    And they have a battalion of employees for each minority vanity project.
    Along with the clubs and their scores of coaches and hangers-on.
    Crunch time is coming.

  221. BorisG

    Tel, if these are just guidelines, what was Trump planning to open up by Easter?

  222. NoFixedAddress

    BorisG
    #3388565, posted on April 2, 2020 at 1:47 am

    Tel, if these are just guidelines, what was Trump planning to open up by Easter?

    You have no idea of english as she’s spoken do you BorisG

    And name the posters here who think that Trump can do no wrong.

  223. BorisG

    In reality of course most of the US is in shutdown. Most restaurants, bars, cafes, shooing centres, schools are closed, fortunately. This will help save a million lives (or more) though still less than if it was done earlier.

  224. NoFixedAddress

    And BorisG

    The Communist East German is strong in you.

    It is my fervent hope when this is over that Australians decimated by stasi government types actually boycott the entire government shit heap.

    They are not fit for human society and are mere drones.

  225. BorisG

    JC just heard one UK based Russian guy give a very simple rationale to current policies. Basically their are two methods to beat the virus: total lockdown and herd immunity with protection of the elderly and volnurable. He says neither extreme will work. Total lockdown is impossible because many people are needed not to be locked down to maintain systems – from health workers to farmacistd to food delivery to police to power companies etc. Conversely herd immunity approach would still cause too many deaths, since even for people under 60 there are still too many deaths, which alone can overwhelm the health systems.

    Thus some approach combining elements of both is in order and each country tries its own balance.

  226. Howard Hill

    Thus some approach combining elements of both is in order and each country tries its own balance.

    How about we just forget this virus exists and let everyone go back to work. For the sake of the hysterical. We’ll torpedo any plague ships entering our waters, anti aircraft, gun down any plague planes flown by gay leprechauns, round up any leftists and send them to Chunkland to have bat soup with KimJongFlungShit and hang all the bastards that tried to destroy our Aussie way of life?

    Sounds like a plan no?

  227. Peter the old fossil

    Australians decimated by stasi government types actually boycott the entire government shit heap.

    Don’t be silly, NFA. Nothing like that is going to happen. Just ask Calli or Knuckles or Elvis or Bespoke or anyone of our resident experts on the subject. They assure us sanity will prevail any day now, and everything will go back to the way it was – no harm done.

    If you don’t see the error of your ways you will get labelled a crank like Struth and me, and then you will have to front up here on July 1 with me so they can all take turns rubbishing us for our foolishness. And you don’t want that.

  228. Howard Hill

    There are many who believe as you do, MV.
    We’ve got your back!

  229. Peter the old fossil

    We’ll torpedo any plague ships entering our waters, anti aircraft, gun down any plague planes

    Wouldn’t we need some functional torpedoes and anti aircraft guns to do that?
    Just asking.

  230. Peter the old fossil

    I’ve read your comments Howard.

  231. NoFixedAddress

    Hey Stasi BorisG

    Riddle me this.

    Spain has 194 deaths per million population (407 Million people)
    Portugal has 18 deaths per million population (10 Million people)
    Italy has 206 deaths per million population (60+ Million people)
    UK has 35 deaths per million population (68- Million people)
    USA has 12 deaths per million population (330+ Million people)
    Canada has 3 deaths per million population (37+ Million people)
    Australia has 0.8 deaths per million population (25+ Million people)

    How do you explain those number Stasi BorisG?

  232. Howard Hill

    Easy, Peter. Aussies are one of the most ingenuous people on the planet when it comes to these things.
    A couple of high speed fishing boats loaded to the gunnels with hot VB cans and that ship is going to meet the same fate as Atlantis.
    A few trebuchet loaded with city councillors will bring down that plane before the captain can say, “Holly fucken shit”.

  233. Howard Hill

    oops that should’ve been holy fucken shit

  234. Howard Hill

    Scare mongers don’t do numbers, NFA. It makes their brains hurt.

  235. Peter the old fossil

    If you say so, Howard. I’m just a mild mannered engineer and writer.
    I know very little about guns and military and corrupt government and stuff like that.
    That’s why I’m now relying on all you Catallaxy experts to tell me what is going to happen.

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