Thursday Forum: April 2, 2020

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  1. EvilElvis

    FTB, was a case in WA in the last 12 months iirc. Potentially a tranny involved, spreading some std.

  2. bespoke

    I’ve also stocked up on barrels for storage

  3. bespoke

    feelthebern
    #3389500, posted on April 2, 2020 at 5:16 pm
    MV is what you call a chicken hawk.

    +10000

  4. rickw

    Our children have a lost a year of their young lives

    After a couple of months of home schooling most kids should be able to advance one grade.

  5. JC

    That fucking Chinese regime threatenin/ stopping doctors from speaking out about the virus and shit. They (the regime) deserve severe punishment….. oh, hang on…

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-31/hospitals-tell-doctors-they-ll-be-fired-if-they-talk-to-press?sref=XgZBm7li

  6. EvilElvis

    FFS Elvis, go back and read some of your own posts over the last three days, including up to last night.

    Nothing is going back to normal, MV. I’m not sure what fucking Shiraz enhanced stupor you’re in but that has not been the content of any of my posts.

    C’mon Anne, give us hope!

  7. rickw

    I’ve also stocked up on barrels for storage

    What sort of barrels are you recommending?

  8. egg_

    Isn’t “confluence of interest” the new word for conspiracy theory?
    The CAGW cabal ‘n’ all?

  9. egg_

    What sort of barrels are you recommending?

    Snowtown.

  10. Anzac day is when you say, enough is enough.

    Yes.
    Nailed it, Struth.

  11. The Beer Whisperer

    Just in casual conversation let people know there is going to be a national defiance on Anzac day.
    A Dawn service with or without the RSL.

    It is very important to choose something highly symbolic for protesting. Have cameras filming. Lots of cameras.

    Let everyone see the state harrass Australians for honouring those who made the greatest sacrifice. Do it with social distancing to prove your actions are harmless, for maximum effect.

  12. feelthebern

    Spreading an STD.
    Spreading coronavirus.

    Which happens more?
    Which incurs the plod turning up on your door step?
    Which results in daily press conferences from tax eaters?

    Someone wake me up when the death toll from coronavirus passed the death toll of Aussies in Afghanistan.

  13. notafan

    How can today’s politicians be answerable for the actions of politicians 50 years ago?

    Absurd.

  14. Nick

    Heaven knows what will happen when ScoMo forbids the over 70s from leaving the house. My local shopping centre was full of the local codgery, all wearing masks. Heaps of them.

  15. Mark A

    rickw
    #3389529, posted on April 2, 2020 at 5:35 pm

    I’ve also stocked up on barrels for storage

    What sort of barrels are you recommending?

    Barrels, schmarrels, but does he have a bank vault?

  16. egg_

    US might have recorded a big jump in deaths in certain places but in most US hospitals they are currently laying off workers because there is nothing to do.

    Strange times.

    When doves cry Medicos panic.

  17. pete m

    CL
    I was one who thought the High Court ought to have decided immediately to allow the appeal.
    However, even in cases where an appeal is allowed, this is not normal practice.

    I just wish they had in this case, as they had for 2 other recent cases.

  18. Boambee John

    Arky

    Shoes have only been cheap, because they were made cheap by cheap labour in places our betters don’t want to think about.

    The tanned hidescof Uighers do make quite a durable leathet.

  19. rickw

    Anzac day is when you say, enough is enough.

    Yes.
    Nailed it, Struth.

    Turn up with your .303 and a full load of ammo.

  20. notafan

    Oh and loads of Sorbent and Kleenex products available at the supermarket again today.

    And quilton

    And icare ( which nobody much cares for)

    Fancy that!

  21. Infidel Tiger

    When do we get hand sanitiser back on shelves?

  22. old bloke

    “In the past fortnight, there has been a reduction in arrivals coming to Saibai Island from PNG, and there have been no arrivals at nearby Boigu Island,’’ the statement said.

    How do they police that? The distance from Saibai Island (Australia’s northern most territory) to the PNG mainland is only 4 kilometres. That’s a shorter distance than a ferry ride from Circular Quay to Cremorne Point.

  23. bespoke

    What sort of barrels are you recommending?

    Plastic and I have spare if you need some..

  24. egg_

    Is there a worm app for the state of Scotty-from-Marketing’s sphincter?

  25. calli

    Peter the old fossil
    #3389290, posted on April 2, 2020 at 3:42 pm
    As you’ve used the plural, I assume you’re insulting me too, struth.
    About to lose a business that’s taken 30 years to build? I am. About to have a son who will blame himself mercilessly if it goes under? I am.

    Maybe Calli.
    But it’s hard to have much sympathy for somebody who chooses to respond to Struth’s alternative explanation of causes by sarcastically claiming he’ll be suggesting extermination camps next.

    Peter, I have gone back to look at my comments. You clearly didn’t.

    You lied.

  26. calli

    How’s that for “drinking from the cup of reality”?

  27. Fleeced

    IT wrote:

    When do we get hand sanitiser back on shelves?

    That went before the toilet paper and hasn’t been around since. Then someone posted instrutions on how to make your own, and so all the dettol disappeared.

    I went to Woolies today, and they offer you a squirt of hand sanitiser at the entrance. Wonder where they get theirs? Maybe it’s fake.

  28. egg_

    Was Palacechook’s PS pay rise some sort of bribe?

  29. rickw

    What sort of barrels are you recommending?

    Plastic and I have spare if you need some..

    Have you got a link to an image of an example? Normally they’re just little short?

  30. calli

    When do we get hand sanitiser back on shelves?

    When every household in the PRC has a year’s supply.

    And not a second sooner.

  31. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Areff,
    Email has been sent but I can’t seem to get Sinc’s attention.

  32. JC

    Excellent vid by a NYC doc who works in a NY hospital exclusive for China bug victims.

    The big take away is don’t touch your face. Never. Also, don’t go to hospital even if you get it. Show up only if you’re short of breath.

  33. notafan

    Didn’t look at hand sanitizer IT

    I’m sticking with soap, though I used the sanitizer on offer as I entered the store.

    All the check out staff had big bottles of santizer to use though, as well as new Perspex spit screens.

  34. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Calli,
    best wishes.

  35. Fleeced

    Calli:

    IT:

    When do we get hand sanitiser back on shelves?

    When every household in the PRC has a year’s supply.

    And not a second sooner.

    On the upside, it could lift our GDP.

    Three million Australians could work full time producing masks, toilet paper, sanitiser and powdered milk for the Chinese. It’s the future!

  36. When do we get hand sanitiser back on shelves?

    PLA troops will distribute hand sanitiser when they arrive.

  37. Nick

    At my local, enough pallets of hand towels to clean up the Exxon Valdez spill. Not one roll of dunny paper. Strangely, every single floor employee was from the subcontinent

  38. notafan

    I know someone who has acquired a reasonable quantity of ‘home made’ hand sanitizer.

    Locals must be cranking up production

    Wasn’t Shane Warne going to make it locally?

  39. bundyrum

    You notabrain do not see what they have done for the last 50 years?
    What a fkn nut.

  40. calli

    Here are my two comments on the subject

    calli
    #3388762, posted on April 2, 2020 at 9:31 am
    The Italians have admitted to blaming Coronavirus for deaths it did not contribute to.

    Not quite right. The Italians are attributing Coronavirus as the COD for infected people.

    The person who dies has both coronavirus and another ailment, which may or may not have caused death. So, rather than dying of septicaemia next week from an infected hangnail, they are dying this week from coronavirus.

    Does that sum it up, or am I missing something?

    And

    calli
    #3388803, posted on April 2, 2020 at 10:05 am
    The “they would’ve died anyway” observation neglects one key aspect.

    We’re all going to die anyway.

    But pity help the weak, old and sick. We aren’t quite savages yet. But give it time.

    Do you see sarcasm?

    Do you see “extermination camps”?

    Normally I just let this stuff go through to the Keeper, but I ‘m not in the mood tonight.*

    * and no “phrasing” b/s fellas

  41. Top Ender:

    There were over 200 Allied generals killed in the Great War, Winston, so maybe they weren’t too oblivious…

    My statement was more about people who never get up to the coalface to establish reality rather than the courage of our fighting Generals.
    Sorry you took it that way.

  42. Peter the old fossil

    You lied.

    No Calli, not lie, fuzzy headed. I usually have one glass of shiraz with dinner each night. Last night I managed four bottles. I was going for my all time record of five, but ran out of steam around 4.00am this morning. For some unknown reason I’m just not in top form at the moment. Nothing to do with this blog, lamenting an apparent personal loss. I may just see if another dose of the same tonight helps.

    Anyway, I’ve apologised once but I shall do so again. Unreservedly.

  43. egg_

    Cruise ship comparison:

    New Zealand
    Cases: 797
    New: +89
    Deaths: 1

  44. calli

    And boys, if you’re going to have a go at me, get the name right.

    I’m not Cassie.

    I’m not Cassi

    I’m calli, with a very distinctive gravatar, and there’s no excuse for a typo. They’re at opposite ends of the keyboard.

  45. notafan

    You Bundyrum are a very stupid person who thinks someone alive today is responsible for the actions of someone who was alive 50 years ago.

    You are a foul mouthed fake.

    Probably another sock judging by your rare but special appearances as an urger of idiots.

  46. rickw

    The big take away is don’t touch your face.

    I was in West Africa during an Ebola outbreak #1 thing I did, took a lot of effort to reprogram!

  47. Tomorrow’s news:

    NSW police defended the shooting of swimmer at Bondi beach saying: “He was going to die anyway”.

  48. calli

    Apologies accepted, MV.

    I’m a real pushover. 🙂

  49. feelthebern

    From the Moran thread.

    The stimulus effect will be ineffective but the resultant debt will be a Sword of Damocles hanging over the economy, squeezing the availability of investment funds for decades. Countering this with clearing away regulatory detritus is essential if we are to restore income-enhancing growth.

    Correct.
    This is not stimulus.
    This is pumping oxygen into a dying corpse (considering the government just gave it two to the back of the head “dying” might be generous).

  50. rickw

    180Litre Food Grade Plastic Barrel

    Oh yes!!! You’re in Melbourne?

  51. Arky

    I’m not Cassie.

    I’m not Cassi

    ..
    Sorry Debbie.

  52. egg_

    Teh Dumb:
    A Chunk Liberal Councillor, 2x Academics and a Medic.
    Sanity vs the bizarre.

  53. egg_

    180Litre Food Grade Plastic Barrel

    Made in Adelaide?
    Snowtown barrels Mk.II?

  54. bundyrum

    You notabrain haven’t watched how this country has gone down the shitter for the last 50 years.
    The bastard politicians are guilty for following each other down the same UN ,Lima path for ever you absolutely brain dead arsehole.

  55. bespoke

    No. Give me your address!!

  56. Helen

    I went to Woolies today, and they offer you a squirt of hand sanitiser at the entrance. Wonder where they get theirs?

    Nada, nothing, zip in Katherine, not even any trolly wipes. No split perspex screens either. We must be ultra ultra low risk. Or back blocks so who cares. Or something.

  57. feelthebern

    Considering how childcare has been subject to the biggest rorts over the past couple of years, how is the government going to stop rorting of the free childcare to “essential” workers today?

  58. egg_

    Give me your address!!

    And skin suit measurements?

  59. Geriatric Mayfly

    Way to go!

    King of Thailand Maha Vajiralongkorn is currently self-isolating from the Chinese coronavirus in a luxury hotel in Germany with an entourage of 20 concubines and female servants, local reports claimed this week. While the majority of hotels in Germany are closed as a result of the nationwide quarantine, the 67-year-old is believed to have booked out the entire Grand Hotel Sonnenbichl in the Alpine resort town of Garmisch-Partenkirchen

  60. calli

    Sorry Debbie.

    No worries, Gorgeous.

    Now that floored you!

  61. Robber Baron

    Donald Horne saw into the future: “Australia is a lucky country run mainly by second rate people who share its luck. It lives on other people’s ideas, and, although its ordinary people are adaptable, most of its leaders (in all fields) so lack curiosity about the events that surround them that they are often taken by surprise.”

    Our luck ran out.

  62. calli

    Oh, goodness me. I’ve just complimented a rodent.

    Brrrrr….

  63. Viva

    When do we get hand sanitiser back on shelves?

    Que?

    My local chemist has stacks and stacks of spray on sanitiser surrounding the front counter

  64. Peter the old fossil

    You notabrain haven’t . . .

    Now you’ve done it Bundy.
    You’ve awakened the kraken.
    Poor bastard.

  65. Delta A

    Oldies, myself included, need to stay home and keep themselves as safe as possible. If they are smart (or had Arky, Winnie et al advising months ago to stock up) they will not need to venture out more than once a week to top up, during the early seniors’ shopping session.

    Painful as it is, they should not be visiting or receiving visits from friends or family, not even gorgeous grandchildren. (Aargh!) They should take advantage of the local chemist’s offer to hold and fill prescriptions as needed, to reduce the time spent waiting in the shop. Or have home delivery, if the service is available. They should shop online and organise their exercise and entertainment in isolation, and employ meticulous hygiene.

    This means no long lunches or dinners at the local wineries or restaurants. No outings. No chitty-chats with neighbours. No nuffin, really. But if all the oldies agree to comply with these restrictions, for as long as it takes, then the youngsters could stay at work, negating the need for eye-watering ‘stimulus’ packages which will plague the economy for generations.

    This is not an option. It is crucial. I hope – even trust – that most oldies see it the same way.

  66. Mark from Melbourne

    No split perspex screens either.

    They are quite the hoot!

    If you want to actually communicate with the register person (“packet of fags please”), they lean out from behind the screen so they can hear you. Which kind of invalidates the purpose.

    But it looks good.

  67. feelthebern

    Sportsbet have combined the Richmond logo with Exotic Joe.
    Well done that man.

  68. bespoke

    They had Perspex splash guards at the Woolies I went to. Should have asked them for a spoon and plate

  69. Whether the coronavirus was purposefully released or not, the total social shutdown it has necessitated around the world will have shown the Chinese government exactly how to wage a future war. In a war of civilian attrition, such as one waged biologically, China, by virtue of her enormous population, must win. That is why the full pressure of the West must now be brought to bear on that government in order to deal with any future attacks.

    https://www.spectator.com.au/2020/03/coronavrius-was-it-a-weapon-all-along/

    from last week

  70. rickw

    Our luck ran out.

    The second raters finally consolidated enough power to allow them to wreck Australia.

  71. Cassie of Sydney

    “I’m not Cassie.

    I’m not Cassi”

    I am Cassie….of Sydney.

    You are Calli…one of the doyennes of Catallaxy.

  72. calli

    No…no…

    We are all Spartacus.

    In our spare time.

  73. Arky

    I think this stuff could be used a hand sanitiser.
    60% alcohol and can be posted to your door.
    https://www.pharmacy4less.com.au/isocol-rubbing-alcohol-345ml-4.html

  74. calli

    And we’re all individuals too.

    Because social distancing.

  75. miltonf

    Donald Horne was part of the problem.

  76. calli

    Except Grigs.

    No social distancing there.

  77. bundyrum

    Mv, I don’t care about notabrain in the slightest, anyone who can name a politician (apart from Pauline Hanson) that really cared about Australians in the last 50 years I am interested in hearing about.
    Up to you now notabrain.

  78. Armadillo

    Anyway, I’ve apologised once but I shall do so again. Unreservedly.

    Pussy. Never apologise. Ever.

    Debbie might be in a bad mood, but Sheliahs get over this stuff pretty quickly.

    The trick is to say/do something even more outrageous than what got you in trouble in the first place. It gives them something else to concentrate on.

    Always escalate.

  79. Rafe Champion

    Very few Democrats in the US have any Republican friends. The left and non left will eventually become separate species due to the segregation of breeding populations. 

  80. Peter the old fossil

    Oldies, myself included, need to stay home and keep themselves as safe as possible. If they are smart (or had Arky, Winnie et al advising months ago to stock up) they will not need to venture out more than once a week to top up, during the early seniors’ shopping session.

    Delta, you have more chance of being struck by lightning than you do of dying of moronvirus.
    Enjoy your grandchildren as often as you can, while you can. They grow into teenagers – unfortunately.

  81. Dr Faustus

    Prime Minister Scott Morrison has announced that child care will become free for parents who still need it

    “Childcare and early childhood education is critical, particularly for those Australians who rely on it so they can go to work every day,” Mr Morrison said.

    Apparently applies to everyone with a job – no means test.
    Winding this one back in 6-months time will be a panic.

  82. Gab

    I think this stuff could be used a hand sanitiser.
    60% alcohol and can be posted to your door.

    Yep. Make a mix using 80% isocol and 20% aloe vera gel.

  83. calli

    Ted Mack put his money where his mouth is,

  84. Mark A

    Or have home delivery, if the service is available.

    To placate the missus, I filled in our order for Cole’s delivery today.
    She kept chopping and changing, so after half an hour later I clicked on the last button only to be advised that delivery suspended.

    Too much demand on too few personal.

  85. Arky

    I haven’t used the pharmacy4less site, but I do have that isocal stuff on my desk and in the car. I’m doing everything short of bathing in it.

  86. Rafe Champion

    If it wasn’t for higher education, widespread car ownership, multiculturalism and the AFL the original VFL clubs might could become separate species as well.

  87. Knuckle Dragger

    Look, Peter.

    You generally make a reasonable amount of sense, and I’m not speaking as an oracle of any sort. Your views on cash transactions, and the predicted lack thereof are prescient.

    But this sort of stuff:

    ‘the imposition of military and police enforced martial law’

    is nowhere near the mark. You don’t get arrested under martial law, you’re dragged into a dungeon and left there. Martial law doesn’t give out tickets, and historically it’s been very hard to enforce martial law if the smattering of tent-erecting Reservists are unarmed.

    The states are enforcing this stupidity – and it’s not evil, it’s just fucking stupid – differently, which again is inconsistent with martial law, which also doesn’t let you go to court to plead your case.

    In NO WAY am I condoning those fuckwit NSW traffic cops scaring off sunbathers because there are very few Torries on the road right now.

    But it ain’t martial law, and it ain’t a national secret takeover either. It’s a cavalcade of freshly-exposed incompetence at the highest levels by people a) we apparently voted for, and b) unelected sinecure-havers who got one moment in the sun and fucked it up.

  88. areff

    Popcorn ready for tonight’s ABC further stomping on George Pell’s reputation, timed and orchestrated as a forward defence in case the High Court opens the prison door? Well, if you’re tuning in, here are a few things to bear in mind:

    1/ The ABC’s layers of fact checkers and editors: In the promo story posted at ABC News, one of the alleged victims is identified as “Peter Clarke”. A few paragraphs later he becomes “Philip Clarke”.

    If they can’t get one man’s name right, how sloppy and inaccurate is the rest of the report going to be.

    2/ Clarke’s changed story: In the Ballarat Courier of October 5, 2005, Peter Clarke — for that appears to be his correct name — is quoted on his days at the orphanage:

    …Mr Clarke said he loved growing up in the boy’s orphanage.

    “It was great fun,” he said.

    “There was always a new boy and you’d be saying “oh who’s that.”

    Mr Clarke spent 18 years at the orphanage, but his toughest time was when he was released.

    “They dropped me off at the station with a cardboard shoe-box and a letter,” he said.

    “I was very scared and didn’t really know what I was going to do.”

    After some time he decided to move to Melbourne and landed a job in child protection….

    For the ABC’s benefit, Clarke is now saying of Pell:

    Phillip Clarke says the boys would warn each other about Pell’s behaviour in the pool.

    “We’d say, ‘Watch your nuts, watch your nuts’,” he says.

    3/ The ABC’s other informant, identified only as “Bernie”, claims to have been sent to the Cathedral, alone for spiritual guidance:

    In the late 1970s, preparing for his Catholic Confirmation, Bernie was told to meet Pell in Ballarat’s St Patrick’s Cathedral after school. After agreeing to do some chores in the garden, Bernie says Pell told him he was too dirty to go back to the home and needed to have a shower in the adjoining presbytery.

    He says Pell insisted on getting in the shower with him.

    This is very peculiar indeed. Pell was serving at that stage, from 1973 to 1983, at Ballarat East, yet he gets an unidentified third party, who might easily testify against him, to have Bernie meet him at the Cathedral.

    Then it gets even more peculiar: Bernie tells the ABC that Pell took him next door to “the presbytery”, put him in the shower and hopped in too. Thing is, the so-called presbytery would most likely have been the Bishop’s Palace .

    So, according to the ABC, a perv priest had a child sent to the cathedral, where he led the lad to someone else’s home and goosed him in their shower. If it wasn’t the Bishop’s Palace, if it was indeed a presbytery, the same improbabilities apply.

    But of course we can trust the ABC, which gets a billion dollars a year to be accurate.

    Even if they can’t decide if a key informant’s name is Peter or Philip.

  89. bespoke

    Delta A
    #3389611, posted on April 2, 2020 at 6:11 pm

    Sounds like your getting a little spooked? Hubby and kids ok?

  90. bundyrum

    Come on nota, who are the politicians who enhanced our lives in the last 50 years?

  91. struth

    You’re a brave man Bundyrum.
    Watch out for flying Rosary beads and crucifixes.
    You may find yourself reciting a few hail marys.
    I have got Irish Catholic blood so she has no effect on me.
    I’ve been sorrounded by these types most of my life.
    They turn everything you say into everything they know you meant.

  92. notafan

    Lol at the pathetic granddad’s army spitting and snarling from behind their computer screens demanding summary executions of this person and that person.

    You are embarrassing as Anne.

    Not to mention claiming vunerable
    people are in no danger of coronavirus.

    Shame on you.

    Really, you are a disgrace.

  93. mh

    It’s as if AOC has become Australian PM.

  94. Robber Baron

    I just received my $750 ScoMo dollars.

    Woot hoot!

    What to do with this bounty? Decisions, decisions, decisions.

    Perhaps I should renew my Liberal Party membership.

  95. Diogenes

    Did Oberstgrueppenfuehrer Fuller accidentally just let the mask slip?
    In an interview he said the current restrictions were for 90 days and HE would not be asking for an extension . WTF ? I though this was a medical emergency.

    Noticed that Glad was noteably absent from news coverage & it was Reichsfuehrer Elliot fronting the cameras

  96. Delta A

    Delta, you have more chance of being struck by lightning than you do of dying of moronvirus.

    I am not at all worried about catching the virus, Peter. However, I am concerned that all this government instigated overkill is, ostensibly, to keep us oldies alive.

    And so I say again: oldies, isolate, take care of yourselves and stay off the streets so that youngsters can get back to work and keep the economy ticking over. With the ‘frail and vulnerable’ safely tucked away, there’s no problem at all. 🙂

  97. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    I went to Woolies today, and they offer you a squirt of hand sanitiser at the entrance. Wonder where they get theirs? Maybe it’s fake.

    is it made in china? might be just defective…

  98. notafan

    And Struth with the pathetic anti Catholic insults.

    You sound like ‘Cate’ McGregor whose favourite us ‘get your rosaries off our ovaries’

    You should try that one, it would definitely suit you.

  99. struth

    He he.
    And right there she does it.

  100. mc

    Can someone please help a simpleton like me understand ScoMo’s logic.

    1. Childcare centres and schools are safe and ok but golf courses, beaches and churches aren’t.

    2. The government needs to pay for childcare because people have lost their jobs. If they have lost their job, why do they need childcare and why does govt have to pay?

  101. bundyrum

    Hey nota I wasn’t snarling, i asked a simple question, please answer it.

  102. calli

    Hang on, Nota.

    Cate McGreggor only has imaginary ovaries.

  103. Knuckle Dragger

    How the hell do you spend 18 years in an orphanage?

    Must have been the best joint ever, because if it was shit the bloke would have done what everybody else did, and fucked off to join the Navy.

  104. bundyrum

    Come now nota, which politician has made our lives better in the last 50 years?

  105. Delta A

    Sounds like your getting a little spooked?

    Not in the least, bespoke.

    I just keep hearing that the economy is being trashed solely to keep a few oldies out of the grave. I’m simply offering a sensible alternative.

  106. bundyrum

    Don’t dodge anymore you faker.

  107. Ed Case

    You sound like ‘Cate’ McGregor whose favourite us ‘get your rosaries off our ovaries’

    Are you sure about that?
    Iirc, McGregor’s favourite line is”See ya in the carpark, ….”

  108. bespoke

    Ok Delta just checking. take care. 😎

  109. notafan

    Incidentally Norway is no longer accepting parcels from Australia due to covid19.

    And I thought we were bad.

  110. Armadillo

    I just received my $750 ScoMo dollars.

    Pensioners without a track, pub or poker machine available. What an absolute waste.

    Online bookies are going to clean up here.

  111. egg_

    Teh Dumb:
    Oz Medical Modeling Nerd:
    Explosive exponential growths in US and EU brought into Oz by travellers.

    /IT’s border closure policy.

  112. Top Ender

    After a couple of months of home schooling most kids should be able to advance one grade

    Then again, there is no national scale of “must reach this performance level, before kid advances” scale.

    It’s possible for a student to fail every subject, every year, and still be advanced through the grades in Oz.

  113. feelthebern

    How the hell do you spend 18 years in an orphanage?

    Gold Jerry.
    Gold.

  114. egg_

    Explosive exponential growths in US and EU brought into Oz by travellers.

    Our elites.

  115. Cassie of Sydney

    “You sound like ‘Cate’ McGregor whose favourite us ‘get your rosaries off our ovaries’”

    You sure it was Cate McGregor…Nota? I am not aware of him of ever saying such a thing. I don’t think that he has ever had much interest in women’s reproductive organs.

  116. Mark A

    Armadillo
    #3389665, posted on April 2, 2020 at 6:38 pm

    Online bookies are going to clean up here.

    Never mind that, Tassy greyhound races suspended indefinitely.
    That hurts.

  117. cohenite

    Very few Democrats in the US have any Republican friends. The left and non left will eventually become separate species due to the segregation of breeding populations.

    My experience is conservative girls, especially those proficient with farm implements and guns are the best roots. Lefties and hippie girls are either drugged or fussy; and always very sloppy.

  118. Armadillo

    I missed the boat on online funerals. Pretty pissed off about that.

    Jimmy Stewart was a visionary as far as church services go.

  119. Nick

    How the hell do you spend 18 years in an orphanage?

    the place he had been sexually assaulted at too….

  120. egg_

    Data Nerd on Teh Dumb: if 80% of population wear masks, Pandemic goes away.

  121. Geriatric Mayfly

    But of course we can trust the ABC, which gets a billion dollars a year to be accurate.

    The persecution of Pell is so ingrained in ABC , I am now wondering how much of this latest and well timed muckraking is a feeble attempt to save face if things go awry.

  122. egg_

    My experience is conservative girls, especially those proficient with farm implements and guns are the best roots. Lefties and hippie girls are either drugged or fussy; and always very sloppy.

    Better pelvic floors?

  123. notafan

    I’m sure Cassie

    Because it was so absurd.

  124. Infidel Tiger

    WA recorded eight new cases of COVID-19 infection overnight, bringing the state’s total to 400.

    8.

    Complete and total economic Armageddon for this.

    The living will envy the dead.

  125. proficient with farm implements and guns

    I try to avoid both, during sex.

  126. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Better pelvic floors?’

    Well yes, but that’s not the reason.

    Because they’re lefty tarts, they are by nature entitled, and therefore terrible in the cot.

    A Grade starfish.

    Every goddamn time.

  127. Peter the old fossil

    You don’t get arrested under martial law, you’re dragged into a dungeon and left there. Martial law doesn’t give out tickets, and historically it’s been very hard to enforce martial law if the smattering of tent-erecting Reservists are unarmed.

    Knuckles,
    I’m sorry mate, but you’re way offline. Australia is one of the few countries in the world where the military are reserved especially and solely for soldier type stuff. Elsewhere they are an integral part of all sorts of non military operations. It allows the military to operate in conjunction with civilian units, but not under their control.

    Example: when those soccer player kids got trapped in the flooding cave in in Thailand in 2018, the area, and aspects of the rescue operation, were performed under declared martial law. They even had a couple of interviews with the general in charge. Nobody got dragged off to a dungeon and beaten half to death.

    In Australia that could not happen until and unless the Premier of the state where the emergency was occurring specifically requested military aid from the PM, AND granted permission for troops to enter his state. This process had to be repeated each and every time such assistance was required, even if it was he same ultimate cause, and the incidents only weeks apart.

    After the debacle of the bushfires the states and the federal government came up with an unconstitutional (in my opinion) agreement that allows the PM to send troops in wherever he wants, whenever he likes. That is the situation we have now, and that is why we have troops involved in all aspects of this lockdown, and that is what is scaring the bejesus out of me.

    And I repeat what I have maintained from the start – they are not there to enforce by shooting, they are there tto instill compliance through intimidation.

    And it’s working a treat.

  128. Arky

    I missed the boat on online funerals.

    ..
    You buy a cruise ship, which must be going cheap now, , offer cabin tombs to the deceased at $10 000 a pop, (The Final Cruise) and when it’s filled sink it for an artificial reef.
    You’re welcome.

  129. Infidel Tiger

    Last day of school tomorrow.

    Government has banned the kids from using the playground.

  130. egg_

    Teh Dumb panel academic – quit the hoarding, wear masks!

  131. Geriatric Mayfly

    You sound like ‘Cate’ McGregor whose favourite us ‘get your rosaries off our ovaries’

    That’s more in line with Deveney and Badham Common as muck.

  132. chrisl

    Song of the day
    I’ve got the rockin pneumonia and the boogie wu flu

  133. mh

    There appears to be two possible futures for Australia.

    China takeover.

    Or Mad Max.

  134. Chris

    cohenite, your experience is not mine, but I defer to your diversity of knowledge.
    Looking around I see real keepers from the middle to the conservative side. Also nutters. The frightbats and oddballs at the ABC, Fairfax and the Grauniad , and the ones I met in the Public Service exposure I have had, terrify me.
    And then there are women I know that qualify to be among the most outstanding in the world, inspirations whether in the professions, or the volunteer and civil sphere including churches. They do not fall on just one side of the political spectrum; but some of the most admirable swim in the leftist tides because that is where the best people rise to leadership in our Long-March-fucked institutions.

  135. Arky

    Or better yet, you just say you’re going to sink it for a reef, but really you turf the deadites overboard and then sell the thing back to a cruise line after a coat of paint c2045 when people are once again keen to get on a ship with a bunch of geriatric disease vectors and a buffet.

  136. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Again, they were free citizens in a free society, not hoist on any petard but messed around and put into social ire and ‘blaming’ due to bureaucratic ineptitude

    But is it a free society any more? We are locked down, asked to move on, our whole lives under the control of the state. Despite being in the same country we cannot travel without almost a permit system.

    In NSW, if more than two people are in the same car they can be pulled over to check who they are and they can be fined $1000.00 if they do not ordinarily reside at the same address. No-one can visit another person, (except now in Victoria non-cohabiting couples can see each other – Wow!)

    These restrictions were not in place when we travelled, nor when those medicos travelled. Don’t change the goalposts.

    Bureaucracies are always inept, but doctors in any circumstances, but definitely in the current situation, should know better.

    And older people who choose of their own free will in a “free” society to go travelling, including cruising, when major concerns are being raised throughout the world, should accept that if we do not drastically reduce the number of new cases, apart from the definite increases in the number of deaths, these onerous, an anti-free country conditions will go on, possibly indefinitely. We can’t afford now to let in any more non-citizens and non-residents and our own people must self-isolate in their own homes until this is over.
    (I’m not suggesting that you are not against this).

    Given the legal regulatory status under which those doctors arrived home they were free to self-isolate and in fact were told, as we were, to do so. They no doubt would have done it very expertly, as we have. Instead, the police jumped in hard due to a mix up and the media crucified them. So did people on this site.

    We and they decided to travel in circumstances that were prior organised and with no real likely affect on the viral spread. A cruise of healthy people to the Antarctic and on a US port-to-port (San Diego to Fort Lauderdale in Florida) for us that was still going ahead posed very little real risk. Our cruise was stopped due to externalities of the port, not due to the health of our fellow passengers.

    A lot of the more vicious commentary is far from reasonable; it is shameful and barbaric

    I haven’t noticed vicious commentary. Robust, yes, which is what should be expected on this site. But barbaric, no.

    As I said, you must be blind. Matrix, KD, IT and Bern spring to mind, and there were many, many others.
    Vile shrieking to demonise foreign cruisers in our waters and send them to hell on a plague ship were hardly measured responses to a humanitarian crisis. They were ‘look at me, I’m so clever’ examples of posturing sans any intellectual substance. Not even funny, should any of them have been intended to be parodies.

    Our world may be currently stalled but we are a rich country, a supposedly civilised one, and we do have responsibilities towards others in a crisis. We would help in a tsunami, or an earthquake, and we are not yet beyond offering help to these people in whatever way we can

    We’re not refusing to re-provision. We’re not refusing to not move very sick people to hospital. But we are refusing to allow the ships to enter our ports. The current situation is not in any way the types of calamities that we have previously been prepared and able to offer help.

    In those circumstances the peril and human suffering was somewhere else. This meant that we could provide all the assistance we could while the rest of the Australian nation continued running normally. We are now outside of “normal running”. Given the level of contagion we are at risk of many, many Australians becoming sick on the mainland, if the medical profession and the govt are to be believed.

    Due to pressure from normal people expressing humanitarian concern some useful responses are at last being made. There is much else that could be done, and should be done. We are not without proper resources to assist and pulling up drawbridges is a medieval response. Outright shrieking of sink the boats, torpedo them etc. is pretty disgraceful and it did happen here.

    If people hate the virtue signalling of The Left, they should make it clear that it is the left they wish to attack, nor just ordinary people who are citizens going on cruises and otherwise expressing their rights as free citizens until edicts emerge curtailing these rights.

    Lizzie, wanting to differentiate normal Australians taking holidays in these circumstances and then being unhappy with the right of a sovereign nation state to determine who comes to the country with The Left’s moral posturing over others risks putting you into their camp. By not accepting that Australia does have the right to deny entry and should do so given the current situation, you are sitting squarely in the globalist, supra-nationalist camp, which is the position of the Left.

    That is arrant nonsense. Assisting in emergencies is not denying the rights of a sovereign nation. Get some perspective. The decision is moral and political one, eminently possible to practically implement without harm, and nothing to do with taking a globalist position on immigration or sovereignty.

    As to the rights of free citizens being able to enjoy their wants and desires until ‘edicts emerge curtailing these rights’, the fact that you, like those other medical practitioners, are more aware than most others of what a major contagion can do, should have made them and you, more aware of the consequences if things got worse.

    The fact is that at the end of February already there was a lot of information being discussed in the media about the global situation. Now, whether you chose to go on your cruise or not, is not the issue, and I’m pleased that despite a few inconveniences everything seems ok with you and Hairy.

    May I suggest that the group of medical practioners and Hairy and I too were in a strong position to decide on the risks entailed in travel during this period. The border closing response re Australian citizens abroad was OTT at the time and simply stirred further panics at cruise ship ports elsewhere. People are still limping in.

    But what is the issue is that your attitude to the foreign registered cruise ships currently off our coast

    does not suggest a concomitant concern for Australian citizens. (I do not want to verbal you, so accept my apologies if my reading of your post in this aspect is wrong).

    Soon we will have more people coming home – I understand that we have at least two plane loads, one from Nepal and one from South America (somewhere). These Australians may need to be transhipped to Christmas Island or elsewhere or straight into hospital if there are any really sick people among them. So, sorry, it is not inhumane or un-Australian, but the cruise ships need to follow the direction of the government and leave.

    Most of the people still coming in could very well self-quarantine at home, as Australian citizens with an Australian address, with a red bracelet on as I have suggested, and it is very unlikely that many will be sick or break a seriously moderated quarantine at home. They may be tired though from having to muster flights in a hurry.

    The cruise ship passengers and some crew could be humanely treated and accommodated and repatriated where necessary. You lack common sense and a humanitarian perspective here.

    Not much more to say to you on this matter now. We differ. It happens.

  137. notafan

    Ok I can’t find the quote.

    Nevertheless its a pathetic little insult.

    But only to be expected from the wannabe tough men on this site.

    Swaggering around with their grandiose conspiracy theories.

    Laughable.

  138. notafan

    Lol sheer dumb luck.

  139. miltonf

    Joe Biden and Democrat leaders are pushing to postpone or cancel the party’s nominating convention…
    That might be a good idea since Joe will either :
    1. Forget his pants.
    2. Think the podium is a urinal.
    3. Get the name of the city wrong.
    4. forget who he is
    5. forget why he is there
    6. start sniffing people
    7. while on stage start talking about loving kids jumping on his lap, again lol
    8. cornpop showing up and kicking his ass lol

    LOL @ Breitbart comentators.

  140. bespoke

    Mark A
    #3389688, posted on April 2, 2020 at 6:54 pm
    Tank porn.

    Watched a bunch of recovery stuff some time ago one was a T-34 with German makings. The blokes had no safety gear and likely full of vodka. Gunner style

  141. Arky

    You’re an expert Elizabeth.
    Would you consider purchasing a cabin tomb on board a floating cemetery?
    And is there anybody in your immediate family likely to kick up a stink if instead of becoming part of an artificial reef, you were, say, fired out of a naval canon into a ocean trench?

  142. egg_

    ABC News: Loose sphincters in NSW Govt over cruise ships.
    /Penal colony

  143. Arky

    can’t be stuffed looking it up.
    one or tother.

  144. egg_

    Bondi backpackers evicted.

  145. cohenite

    They do not fall on just one side of the political spectrum; but some of the most admirable swim in the leftist tides because that is where the best people rise to leadership in our Long-March-fucked institutions.

    Examples please. In the meantime conservative ladies in the media:

    https://rightwingnews.com/column-2/20-hottest-conservative-women-new-media-2016/

    I’ll do some Australian examples later.

  146. egg_

    That might be a good idea since Joe will either :
    1. Forget his pants.

    Leave his pants behind in a junior female staffer’s office?

  147. Armadillo

    You buy a cruise ship, which must be going cheap now, , offer cabin tombs to the deceased at $10 000 a pop, (The Final Cruise) and when it’s filled sink it for an artificial reef.
    You’re welcome.

    Don’t you be lecturing me about missed opportunities, Arky.

    You quit teaching and had a sound idea about teaching mathematics online. You would be raking in the cash right now.

    But NO! Not good enough! You had to persue your dream of a pile of mangled metal and wood on your garage floor.

  148. Chris

    The persecution of Pell is so ingrained in ABC , I am now wondering how much of this latest and well timed muckraking is a feeble attempt to save face if things go awry.

    I reckon the values of these people are deeply perverted. They loathe the idea that anyone’s behaviour might be guided by better principles than their virtue signals. In particular they want to destroy the church’s past place as a ‘go-to’ for getting background on ethical issues.

  149. mh

    Tourists have flown back to Brisbane airport from Nepal.

    They were quarantined in Ibis Brisbane Airport, but many of them complained, so the Qld government have moved all the complainers to Southbank Hotels.

    F.M.D.

  150. egg_

    Oz elites: Vaccine 12-18 months away!
    Oh noes!

  151. Mark A

    full of vodka

    Only way to be these days.
    Spec reading the Cat.

  152. Arky

    teaching mathematics online.

    ..
    It’s been done.
    No. You need to get excited about the cruise ship cabin tomb switcheroo.
    Potentially very, very lucrative.

  153. Crossie

    Doesn’t the Ruby Princess situation as well as the other eight ships outside Sydney Harbour fall under the “Ships in Distress” of maritime law? Are we not obliged to provide assistance?

  154. egg_

    NYC infected due to being a global hub?
    Houses the UN sh1tholers and their hangers on.
    Our elites.

  155. Crossie

    mh
    #3389715, posted on April 2, 2020 at 7:12 pm
    Tourists have flown back to Brisbane airport from Nepal.

    They were quarantined in Ibis Brisbane Airport, but many of them complained, so the Qld government have moved all the complainers to Southbank Hotels.

    F.M.D.

    I would move the complainers into Villawood migrant detention centre.

  156. calli

    May I suggest that the group of medical practioners and Hairy and I too were in a strong position to decide on the risks entailed in travel during this period. The border closing response re Australian citizens abroad was OTT at the time and simply stirred further panics at cruise ship ports elsewhere. People are still limping in.

    Lizzie, in all fairness, you got home under your own steam. For that I have applauded you. You didn’t cost me one red cent.

    On the other hand, we were treated to fillum of these doctors demanding the Aus government repatriate them. One had the hide to claim he didn’t have sufficient medication with him. A Doctor for crying out loud!

    I have zero sympathy for them.

  157. Armadillo

    No. You need to get excited about the cruise ship cabin tomb switcheroo.

    I am excited. Just trying to figure out an online angle and wether I can run some horses around the outer deck.

    If I’m in international waters, it’s tax free. Yes?

  158. egg_

    Doesn’t the Ruby Princess situation as well as the other eight ships outside Sydney Harbour fall under the “Ships in Distress” of maritime law?

    Looks like Christian charity ends when Medicos panic – emptying backpackers hostels &c. (Glebe’s was being whinged about last night on ABC News).

  159. Chris

    “Ships in Distress” of maritime law? Are we not obliged to provide assistance?

    “AT SEA” is part of the standard. Once anchored in harbor and the immediate threat to life is passed, not so much.
    Food, water resupply and medical assistance seem to me to be obligatory, but whether to release those on board into the hospitals, old folks care homes and primary schools of the host port is subject to law.

  160. Arky

    You’d have to market it.
    But what a great time while everyone is at home watching Youtube.
    I’m seeing Youtube ads.
    I’m seeing a cute but sombre bird in a navy uniform. Gold braid and shit.
    I’m seeing lots of old scenes from movies of cruises. tropical islands.
    I’m hearing salsa music, lively but not too lively.
    I’m seeing distinguished older looking actors as the dead male customers, hot looking the way old trouts like to think of themselves as the deceased women.
    I’m seeing a captainy Captain type, smiling but sympathetic.

  161. egg_

    Some Pe ll complainants and Ferguson on ABC Nightly News.
    Isn’t she supposed to be in Ch ina?

  162. Infidel Tiger

    Rohanct
    @RohanCT
    ·
    17m
    The demographics & population density of Australia might be a major adv. for the country with the virus. Already we are seeing growth tail right off in WA & Tas. It’s a reason why international comparisons are apples and oranges

    WA & Tas should reopen next week.

    It’s ludicrous that we are being punished due to NSW and Victoria being full to bursting with diseased ridden vermin.

  163. feelthebern

    Doesn’t the Ruby Princess situation as well as the other eight ships outside Sydney Harbour fall under the “Ships in Distress” of maritime law? Are we not obliged to provide assistance?

    Provide assistance, of course.
    Letting then dock, no fvcking way.
    They should be well provisioned.
    I’m sure one of the Q&A doctors would love to volunteer to board.
    But under no circumstances can these things be allowed to dock until people are either dead or over coronavirus.

  164. Ed Case

    You might be able to get Siegfried as Captain, someone says he’s still alive.

  165. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I would move the complainers into Villawood migrant detention centre.

    I’d move them to Woomera or Curtin.

  166. feelthebern

    WA & Tas should reopen next week.

    Let’s keep Tasmania quarantined.
    They think they are smart cutting themselves off from the mainland.
    We’re actually happy to be cut off from them.

    It’s the reverse Rorschach from Watchmen.

  167. Chris

    I am excited. Just trying to figure out an online angle and wether I can run some horses around the outer deck.

    If I’m in international waters, it’s tax free. Yes?

    Oh yes. Go for it ‘dillo!*


    *caution: tax implications might not be as suggested if your residence is in the Hivisistan of the South Pacific, or the USA ever received a tax dollar from your sorry carcass.

  168. calli

    On the ships, I reiterate

    – repatriate all Australian passport holders into quarantine
    – assess and treat all sick passengers and crew, and, if necessary, get them onshore for treatment
    – contact and demand all embassies of foreign nationals to be repatriated to their homelands
    – provision and fuel ships in order to return to their registered ports

    Why is this so difficult?

  169. feelthebern

    I’d move them to Woomera or Curtin.

    Manus?

  170. NoFixedAddress

    Custer’s Last stand at The Alamo

    “they were gunna’ die anyway”

  171. egg_

    Let’s keep Tasmania quarantined

    Send the cruise ships there.

  172. feelthebern

    No.
    No boats.
    That boat has sailed..lol…

  173. feelthebern

    Send the cruise ships there.

    Even better.

  174. Chris

    I’d move them to Woomera or Curtin.

    Northam Army Camp has precedent in its favor…

  175. Armadillo

    Dead Calm was a great movie. One of the best.

    Our Nicole was brilliant.

  176. Infidel Tiger

    They have expanded testing in WA and found even fewer cases.

    No one except cruise ship dwelling filth have this virus.

    Shoot anyone who has been on a cruise. Back to work. If diseased livestock arrived we would do it and they are at least tasty.

  177. feelthebern

    Being a retard & getting on a boat when there was so much information not to, is not a ticket back into the country.
    Being a retard means you get punished.
    Not rewarded.

  178. rickw

    I just received my $750 ScoMo dollars.

    Woot hoot!

    What to do with this bounty? Decisions, decisions, decisions.

    Adler B220PG and the balance in ammo!!

  179. Chris

    Just kidding. Woomera it is.

  180. old bloke

    Geriatric Mayfly
    #3389602, posted on April 2, 2020 at 6:08 pm

    Way to go!

    King of Thailand Maha Vajiralongkorn is currently self-isolating from the Chinese coronavirus in a luxury hotel in Germany with an entourage of 20 concubines and female servants, local reports claimed this week. While the majority of hotels in Germany are closed as a result of the nationwide quarantine, the 67-year-old is believed to have booked out the entire Grand Hotel Sonnenbichl in the Alpine resort town of Garmisch-Partenkirchen

    He’s a Duntroon graduate, must be something in the water there.

  181. Helen

    Lizzie, I disagree on the sick boat people humanitarian angle because it will be used against us by country shoppers and their campaigners in our future – providing we are still seen as a sugar on the table destination, that is. It will set a precedent and we must hold that line firmly. So many try to chip away at it all the time, to whit the Phelps mercy rule. Sewing lips, feigning illness, it revolts me.

    I know these people may be ill with the virus, or they might just have a bad flu – this needs to be determined. It is the crew who are likely to be younger so the risk of dying is less than if they were the passengers who are generally older.

  182. Arky

    – provision and fuel ships in order to return to their registered ports

    ..
    Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
    Seize the ship and auction it off to defray the costs of dealing with their mess.
    Preferably selling it to two good looking and entreprenurial or however that’s spelt cruise funeral operators.

  183. feelthebern

    If diseased livestock arrived we would do it

    That’s a bingo !

    h/t Col. Hans Landa

  184. Mark A

    calli
    #3389739, posted on April 2, 2020 at 7:26 pm

    On the ships, I reiterate

    Why is this so difficult?

    Read the (some) comments here and multiply by 10k from other places, add spineless politicians and you got your answer.

  185. Geriatric Mayfly

    NYC infected due to being a global hub?
    Houses the UN sh1tholers and their hangers on.
    Our elites.

    Wouldn’t even the most entitled and most obvious virus vector still claim diplomatic immunity as he/she marches through US airports?

  186. The Beer Whisperer

    Chemists and $2 shops are selling small bottles for about $8 each, inflated by profiteering suppliers who have pentupled their prices for bulk supplies.

  187. egg_

    – assess and treat all sick passengers and crew

    Grigs will be salivating.

  188. bundyrum

    Still waiting to hear about the politicians who have been supportive of Australia in the last 50 years notabrain, you can do it….hohoho.

  189. rickw

    They were quarantined in Ibis Brisbane Airport, but many of them complained, so the Qld government have moved all the complainers to Southbank Hotels.

    I’ve stayed at the Brisbane Ibis a number of times, WTF is the problem?

  190. Top Ender

    Ok, you lot, I need the court of considered public opinion on this.

    (None military hardware types can scroll on by.)

    What was the best single-seat fighter of World War II?

    Have been commissioned for a book which has at its centre the battle between Zero and P-40 “Kittyhawk” which ranged across northern Oz in 1942.

    Prior to that I am doing an intro into the concept of such aircraft, having evolved from the biplanes (although there were the occasional monoplanes and triplanes) of the Great War.

    I am concentrating on the single-engined monoplane propeller fighter.

    Although there were more than 70 types I am thinking (prove me wrong) these are the pre-eminent types:

    Kittyhawk
    Spitfire
    Hurricane
    Mustang
    Hellcat
    Corsair
    Zero
    Messerschmidt ME 109
    Focke Wulf 190

    I have quite an article around it already, and some performance specs, but would be interested to bat it around a bit.

  191. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Northam Army Camp has precedent in its favor…

    There’s actually a detention centre, in close proximity, known irreverently to the locals as “Taliban Heights.”

  192. Crossie

    calli
    On the ships, I reiterate

    – repatriate all Australian passport holders into quarantine
    – assess and treat all sick passengers and crew, and, if necessary, get them onshore for treatment
    – contact and demand all embassies of foreign nationals to be repatriated to their homelands
    – provision and fuel ships in order to return to their registered ports

    Why is this so difficult?

    Exactly. Why compound the mistakes made by our government officials by prolonging the crisis?

  193. EvilElvis

    can’t be stuffed looking it up.

    Either way, what a way to go!

  194. Armadillo

    Preferably selling it to two good looking and entreprenurial or however that’s spelt cruise funeral operators.

    You’re not getting a cut of the profits, Arky.

    Getting to prod and poke the corpses should be reward enough for your ilk.

  195. calli

    Foreign embassies must do their job. Why are they here, otherwise?

    They have a duty to their nationals. They must do it.

  196. Crossie

    feelthebern
    #3389740, posted on April 2, 2020 at 7:26 pm
    I’d move them to Woomera or Curtin.

    Manus?

    What have you got against the good people of Manus Island?

  197. JC

    Artie

    The only way to tell if there are more or fewer cases is through random population testing. Until that’s done we have no way of speculating how deep it’s in the population … the 15 of you that live in WA.

  198. rickw

    You’re an expert Elizabeth.
    Would you consider purchasing a cabin tomb on board a floating cemetery?

    Dude you fill up the cabins with bodies then scuttle it to the Titanic theme! Sooooo romantic!!

  199. Des Deskperson

    ABC Canberra’s news tonight was pretty much a promo for how magnificently the ACT Labor/Greens government was handling the, err, pandemic here.

    It included a very short segment with ACT Liberals leader Alister Coe announcing that an Assembly Committee was being set up to ensure that the ACT government’s response to the crisis was ‘evidence based’.

    A reasonable concern, one would have thought, but the ABC wasn’t impressed. ‘A probe during a pandemic?’ sneered our ABC.

  200. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I am concentrating on the single-engined monoplane propeller fighter.

    P 47 Thunderbolt – it was said that it could fly through a brick wall, but the only evasive action the pilot could take was unbuckling his seat harness and running around the cockpit. Sorry, are you still allowed to use that term?

  201. Knuckle Dragger

    Calli:

    ‘On the other hand, we were treated to fillum of these doctors demanding the Aus government repatriate them. One had the hide to claim he didn’t have sufficient medication with him. A Doctor for crying out loud!’

    Entirely agree. A flogfest of entitled doctors throwing cash at another doctor, her lawyer husband and their freeloading son who run a cruise ship extravaganza company for the Tier 1 folk, and who also knew exactly what they were ‘morally and ethically’ (seeing as how we’re throwing those words around) bound to do. And, because they were Tier 1 folk ignored those guidelines that were for the little people anyway, and did what they liked.

    I want to see names for these people. Names.

    Betty from the Block:

    ‘May I suggest that the group of medical practioners and Hairy and I too were in a strong position to decide on the risks entailed in travel during this period.’

    It would appear to one that one must stick with one’s own. Favours from the Trocadero don’t get called in on their own, y’know.

    A plague recovery centre in Vaucluse would be acceptable. I’m sure Ronnenmarg would find it ethically divine.

  202. Mark A

    Top Ender
    #3389764, posted on April 2, 2020 at 7:31 pm

    P51
    Focke-Wulf FW-190

  203. cohenite

    Bio weapons expert on Bolta saying no way chunks deliberately created chunk virus as a weapon because it’s so ineffective at killing people. Then goes on to say that chunk experts will be looking closely at the economic destruction wreaked by their ineffective weapon. Doesn’t make connection.

    Reminds of story behind development of the 9mm. Some strategist worked out that wounded had a bigger effect on the enemy’s logistics then dead bodies so they invented a small calibre weapon that wounded rather than killed.

  204. calli

    I’m not going there, Knuckles. Lizzie and her husband paid their way.

    Lizzie was still in transit when that pathetic piece of theatre was aired.

  205. Arky

    You filthy swine.
    This was my idea.

  206. Top Ender:

    Although there were more than 70 types I am thinking (prove me wrong) these are the pre-eminent types:

    Very wide range of aircraft there, but the out stander would have to be the FW190A.

  207. bundyrum

    One knows ones station in life doesn’t one …hairy or otherwise.

  208. Crossie

    calli
    #3389769, posted on April 2, 2020 at 7:34 pm
    Foreign embassies must do their job. Why are they here, otherwise?

    They have a duty to their nationals. They must do it.

    It is rather ominous they are all so quiet. On the other hand, it’s very likely our know-nothing journalists would never have even thought to enquire at embassies or consulates.

  209. Arky

    You filthy swine.

    ..
    Not you Debbie.

  210. Fat Tony

    Arky – this cruise ship idea of yours is pretty good.

    How about you make it great – double or triple the price and give them all a Viking funeral.
    You can make extra $$ by filming it and selling it to their estate (for distribution) or direct to family and friends.
    For the more upmarket approach, have individual cameras recording the actual incineration of those who can afford to pay.

    Also – the merchandise – t-shirts with a pic of the burning boat and “Grandpa/ma had a Viking funeral”.
    The toys – and don’t forget the video game – the possibilities are endless.

  211. calli

    because it’s so ineffective at killing people

    It kills economies.

    Ponder that.

    Next time. And there will be a next time.

  212. Des Deskperson

    ‘I am concentrating on the single-engined monoplane propeller fighter.’

    What about the Yak 9 and the Lavochkin La 7?

  213. BrettW

    From Herald Sun. However this article says 4.8% and not 11.8% as per The Oz over at Michael Smith.

    So Labor MP’s say they will take the pay rise but donate it to virus causes over 12 months. Total BS as no way public will know what they are donating. No transparency or accountability. More efficient to calculate savings and then say they have allocated 1 year increase, with a $ total, to buying medical supplies etc.

    By getting the pay rise it helps increase next years when added on top of this year.

    LABOR MPS TO DONATE PAY RISES TO COVID-19 CAUSES
    Labor MPS will donate their upcoming pay rises to COVID-19 related causes amid calls for a politician pay freeze.
    Premier Daniel Andrews, all other Labor MPs, and Opposition Leader Michael O’Brien are due to receive an 4.8 per cent pay rise on July 1.
    Mr O’Brien has called for a pay freeze for all politicians.
    In response the government today announced all Labor MPs would make donations to COVID-19 related causes equivalent to the uplift in their take home pay for 12 months.
    The government has called on all other parties to do the same with backbenchers set to receive a more modest 3.5 per cent bump.
    The pay rise will see Mr Andrews become the best paid premier in Australia, taking his wage to $441,000.
    Mr O’Brien said given the COVID-19 pandemic it was inappropriate for any politician to receive a pay boost.
    But he stopped short of calling for a pay cut.
    “There is a pay cut in real terms, because while inflation goes up if you freeze wages, that’s the reduction in real terms,” he said.
    “The federal government has said they’ll be frozen, I think that’s the right lead to follow.”
    Federal finance minister Mathias Cormann has indicated a pay freeze for Commonwealth politicians as well as ministerial staff, judges ad top public servants.
    The pay rises were set by the independent Remuneration Tribunal — designed by the government and made up of three career public servants.

  214. rickw


    Kittyhawk
    Spitfire
    Hurricane
    Mustang
    Hellcat
    Corsair
    Zero
    Messerschmidt ME 109
    Focke Wulf 190

    I think you need to throw in one Russian fighter

    Can I recommend getting into Greg’s Airplanes on YouTube his works on WWII fighters will give you a solid foundation on assessing the relative performance of fighter. He also has a very recent one on how fight based on the merits of the particular fighter you’re flying and ODA loops / logic as the fight develops.

  215. Infidel Tiger

    So Labor MP’s say they will take the pay rise but donate it to virus causes over 12 months.

    They are donating to the Chinese?

    Business as usual.

  216. Geriatric Mayfly

    Is Rex Mango on duty? Ferguson’s gutter crawl needs a fearless reporter, for those of us unable to digest the bitter vetch dished up by the ABC.

  217. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Manus?’

    Willis.

  218. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Reminds of story behind development of the 9mm. Some strategist worked out that wounded had a bigger effect on the enemy’s logistics then dead bodies so they invented a small calibre weapon that wounded rather than killed.

    First time I’d heard that about the 9mm round – I heard that rationale behind the development of the 5.56 MM round.

  219. Arky

    Rick and Tony get it.
    It’s all about the romance.
    And firing dead people out of 20 inch naval guns into the dark, dark depths.

  220. Fat Tony:

    For the more upmarket approach, have individual cameras recording the actual incineration of those who can afford to pay.

    For a small extra fee, you can have the old bastards blazing coffin flung by a trebuchet from the upper deck.

    We are going to be so bloody rich, we’ll be the star attraction on the next cruise, having karked it snorting cocaine off hookers hooters.

  221. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘I’m not going there, Knuckles. Lizzie and her husband paid their way.’

    Absolutely agreed on that point Calli.

    Paid their way, even exorbitantly.

    As is, as has been said, their right. Rights are what it’s all about these days, apparently.

  222. dover_beach

    In particular they want to destroy the church’s past place as a ‘go-to’ for getting background on ethical issues.

    Yes!

  223. mh

    BAT BANTER Corrie’s Cath Tyldesley jokes ‘if Chinese stuck to sandwiches we wouldn’t be in this mess’ amid coronavirus lockdown

    She then joked: “Tell you what, if Chinese had stuck to cheese sandwiches we wouldn’t be in this mess,” before saying, “Bloody bats”.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/11304049/catherine-tyldesley-sandwich-bat-joke/

  224. bespoke

    So Labor MP’s say they will take the pay rise but donate it to virus causes over 12 months.

    And they will claim it back on Tax.

  225. Peter the old fossil

    Next time. And there will be a next time.

    Why have a next time?
    This time seems to be panning out quite nicely – for them.

  226. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘And firing dead people out of 20 inch naval guns into the dark, dark depths.’

    To the tunes of bagpipes.

    Otherwise that’d be barbaric.

  227. JC

    Just curious.

    Can you request a funeral at sea? Is there any law that says you can’t get dumped in the ocean when you’ve croaked?

  228. Crossie

    Knuckle Dragger
    #3389793, posted on April 2, 2020 at 7:45 pm
    ‘Manus?’

    Willis.

    Willis Island looks like you could walk all around it in fifteen minutes.

  229. rickw

    Focke Wulf 190

    Specifically check out Greg’s Airplanes video on the FW190 and Kurt Tank’s design logic.

    The Cavalry Horse versus The Racehorse.

    The FW 190 has an incredible array of practical features:

    L/R interchangeable ailerons and elevators.
    Wide track undercarriage.
    Push rod activation of control surfaces.
    Finer control near neutral to improve gunnery
    A mechanical engine management “computer” that massively simplifies engine operation in combat.

    Kittyhawk:

    Suggest you contact precision aerospace in Wangaratta four a tour of their restoration and replica factory. They should be happy to accommodate. If not, let me know, I have a contact.

  230. Keith Forwheels

    Peter the old fossil
    #3389802, posted on April 2, 2020 at 7:50 pm

    Next time. And there will be a next time.

    Why have a next time?
    This time seems to be panning out quite nicely – for them.

    It’s a control grid.

    https://www.technologyreview.com/s/615370/coronavirus-pandemic-social-distancing-18-months/

    Peter, I’m very intersted to get your thoughts on MMT & UBI in this context. If you are happy to share, of course.

  231. bespoke

    Arky
    #3389781, posted on April 2, 2020 at 7:41 pm
    You filthy swine.
    This was my idea.

    Don’t worry with such tiny hands and appendage to match what can he do?

  232. min

    Many economists posit that we spent a lot of money that is percentage of GDP during WWII and that we were able to prosper afterwards . I started to ponder the situation
    Firstly as as child during the war the things that killed us then were diphtheria and scarlet fever because no antibiotics. In fact my aunt then a trainee nurse got pneumonia and died. The next major threat was then poliomyelitis.until the Salk vaccine.
    When we were fighting the war we had to support the army ,airforce and navy plus all the other war workers . We had no idea when the war was going to end so that makes it a bit like now except for the isolation We were only 7 million back then and even when the troops came back from memory plenty of jobs but also free education for vets. We even had to bring in people for the Snowy where my family were heavily involved .
    I remember housing was a problem not enough and also lack of building materials..
    Similarities except we are going to have many many unemployed .Some businesses will not survive , but others will emerge but that will take time.
    Agree that we have ditch submarines , renewables and all the govetrnment bodies associated witj them and Paris. Would covid 19 be classed as a force majeure ?

  233. Crossie

    JC
    #3389804, posted on April 2, 2020 at 7:51 pm
    Just curious.

    Can you request a funeral at sea? Is there any law that says you can’t get dumped in the ocean when you’ve croaked?

    For a while there people were going on cruises with urns of their loved ones’ ashes then spilling them overboard. I read somewhere that cruise ships have put a stop to it.

  234. The Beer Whisperer

    Rorschach from Watchmen

    Owner of one of the greatest lines in cinematic history, even if it was in a rather ordinary movie.

  235. egg_

    Top Ender
    #3389764, posted on April 2, 2020 at 7:31 pm

    SIM but interesting:

  236. Fleeced

    Ugh… Tired of my Facebook feed. So many people (in fairness, generally the women) wanting tougher restrictions. One complaining that she’s been in self isolation for a couple weeks complaining about all the “selfish people” on the roads when she had to go out.

    It doesn’t seem to occur to any of these whingers that if they can self isolate for that long, they’re “surplus to requirements”.

  237. Arky

    Just curious.

    Can you request a funeral at sea?

    ..
    See? See?
    We aren’t even in business yet, already we have our first customer.
    Sir, may I interest you in an upgrade to a suite and a twenty gun salute with your firing into the depths.. ahhh sorry, Viking funeral?

  238. Knuckle Dragger

    Belarus.

    Open borders, no lockdowns, no quarantine. 7.7 million punters.

    163 cases. Two deaths.

  239. Mark A

    Knuckle Dragger
    #3389803, posted on April 2, 2020 at 7:50 pm

    ‘And firing dead people out of 20 inch naval guns into the dark, dark depths.’

    To the tunes of bagpipes.

    Otherwise that’d be barbaric.

    They would be glad to forget that awful sound for ever.

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