Even though mum and dad are at home with little else to do

Childcare centres to be free for parents during pandemic, Scott Morrison announces.

The Federal Government will spend an estimated $1.6 billion to fund the radical — but temporary — overhaul of the struggling sector, which has been pleading for a bailout as parents pull kids out of care.

Mr Morrison said free child care would be offered so essential workers could keep going to work, but Education Minister Dan Tehan later clarified all parents would qualify — including students and the unemployed.

“We want as many people being able to work as we possibly can, and we want them to be able to access child care as they need,” he told the ABC’s Afternoon Briefing program.

 
“Free.” LOL. “Temporary.” LOL. And now the government wants “as many” people at work as possible?

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58 Responses to Even though mum and dad are at home with little else to do

  1. feelthebern

    How did this policy get out of the lab?

  2. C.L.

    The Liberal Wets market.

  3. Mark M

    Meanwhile, on planet B …
    Government Accidentally Shuts Itself Down With Ban On Non-Essential Businesses
    https://babylonbee.com/news/government-accidentally-shuts-itself-down-with-ban-on-non-essential-businesses

  4. Infidel Tiger

    The Liberal Wets market

    You need to trademark that.

    It’s too good.

  5. lotocoti

    How am I supposed to pay for all this largesse?

  6. Sean

    Free Candy for Everybody

  7. H B Bear

    Free money. Getcha free money.

  8. sfw

    Can’t go fishing in Vic but the kids can go to childcare, can’t buy ammo, can’t do anything. I’m over it. They can’t stop this thing just slow it down, until there is a vaccine or most of the population get it. it won’t go away. How long do they think they can keep this up?

  9. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    The National Babysitting Pension for obese young muuuuthurrrs – a scam as blatant as the Cripples Pension with its Lazy Son Who Cares Supplement. May the ignorant entitled young pay for it plus interest for decades to come.

  10. Scott Osmond

    Sigh, we are so fucked.

  11. RobK

    How is a childcare centre different to a school, as a vector for the spread of a virus?

  12. bollux

    Buy some popcorn when the coward they call Scott tries to wind this back. He will never have the guts. Good times for all and more coming. Anyone still doubt this is a leftard experiment?

  13. How long do they think they can keep this up?

    Word has it that this shutdown crap will keep going for at least six months. I wonder when government begins to realise this is all fucked up?

  14. Rod W

    Even if Mum and Dad have to work, there’s a good chance there are plenty of neighbours stuck at home. Why not allow people to pay their neighbours to look after their kids with an income tax exemption for the payment. Keeps it off the public purse.

    What am I missing

  15. duncanm

    where do I sign up for my cabin in the woods?

  16. duncanm

    Scott Osmond
    #3390499, posted on April 3, 2020 at 9:49 am
    Sigh, we are so fucked.

    fuckedness is like human stupidity – its infinite.

    What’s next ?

  17. Cynic of Ayr

    So, lemme get this straight.
    Govt. “You’re not allowed to go to work because you and everyone else will die.”
    Govt. “You’re not allowed to send your kids to school, because you and everyone else will die.”
    Govt. “You are allowed to send your kids to child care, because you and everyone else won’t die.”
    Govt. “If you are not working, and are not sending your kids to day care, you should, and the Govt will pay for it.”
    Govt. “We’re doing this because we want everyone to go to work!”

  18. candy

    There is definite feeling that Scott Morrison and the National Cabinet have no steadying influence on them at all. They may need an older wiser head to settle them a bit.

  19. John Comnenus

    Why not pay for all private school fees as well using the same rationale? Might as well wipe all HECS debt while SCOMO is busy socialising the whole economy.

    It is clear to me that there is no political party in Australia that represents those of us who favour small government and less regulation. It’s just all degrees of big government and unfettered regulation.

    Prior to GFC I think average federal spending was approx 21% of GDP. Since then I think it has ratcheted up to about 24% of GDP. Post Corona Virus, the government won’t be able to retire all these measure. Federal spending will probably end up around 30% of GDP and gods knows where state and local ends up. We will end up moribund like France with Government. Accounting for 40-45% of GDP choking the life out of the remaining 55% that has to generate the taxes to pay for this largesse.

    Pro tip for SCOMO and non public sector employees. When the government accounts for 45% of GDP it needs to tax the private sector about 75% of its income in order to balance the books.

  20. John Comnenus

    Rod,

    Because local unemployed family members are not members of the union and have no formal qualifications as child carers. It is irrelevant that many of them have heaps of experience as parents. How can the government be sure you know how to be a parent without a Cert III in supervising toddlers?

  21. John Comnenus

    Even today Gladys told us we need to flatten the curve because NSW has 60 odd people in hospital (including hospital in the home – which is probably a term to ensure that bed rest at home comes with a Medicare item number for State public hospitals to bill against) and I think 25 are in ventilated ICU. Gladys said she is buying time to double or even quadruple Capacity for the onslaught yet to come. Gladys is unhinged, cowering behind her CMO, whilst scaring the public with the suggestion of an Italy type situation when there is almost no chance of that happening. The numbers of new cases continue to fall as more capacity comes on line and existing capacity is not maxed out. Where is this monumental collapse of the public health system that we are being panicked about going to come from?

  22. Tel

    It is clear to me that there is no political party in Australia that represents those of us who favour small government and less regulation. It’s just all degrees of big government and unfettered regulation.

    Briefly there was the LDP but yeah … been drifting that way for decades.

    Even a simple Constitutional Party that asks for the Commonwealth to remain strictly within the confines of what it was set out to do might be a start. The very concept of government within some confined boundary has been abandoned.

  23. Tel

    Gladys is unhinged, cowering behind her CMO, whilst scaring the public with the suggestion of an Italy type situation when there is almost no chance of that happening. The numbers of new cases continue to fall as more capacity comes on line and existing capacity is not maxed out.

    We don’t know how big the seasonal effect might be and we don’t have the slightest idea why Sydney and Melbourne right now don’t look like New York. It’s not like we have done anything particularly clever, we have followed WHO sabotage guidelines from the getgo and New York did very much the same. For inexplicable reasons they copped a whacking but we got very little. Most of the dead in Australia can be directly traced to cruise ships and people returning from overseas.

    I don’t believe for a minute that Australians are magically immune, nor that we are intrinsically cleaner or more careful than New Yorkers. Could be we are simply healthier, better diet, more sun?

    Gladys is way out of her depth and fumbling around for advice at a time where the advice she is getting is all bad. She’s pretty good at keeping a steady hand on the wheel, business as usual, but she is hopeless in a crisis.

  24. candy

    Post Corona Virus, the government won’t be able to retire all these measure.

    That’s what I am wondering. Once you give everyone free child care and double Jobseeker amount etc, income supplements, no eviction from rental properties even for not paying, how do you take it back to pre virus?
    I mean, which government would go to election on that. They would simply lose.

  25. candy

    Could be we are simply healthier, better diet, more sun?

    Perhaps New Yorkers live in more closed in apartments with lifts and common areas, more surfaces to touch communally and so on. A question of degree, not difference.

  26. Democrats Create Select Committee to Investigate Trump’s Coronavirus Response

    The committee will “examine all aspects of the federal response to the coronavirus and ensure the taxpayer’s dollars are being wisely and efficiently spent,” the speaker told reporters on a conference call.

    “The panel will root out waste, fraud, and abuse; it will protect against price-gauging, profiteering, and political favoritism,” the speaker continued. “We need transparency and accountability.”

    Where there’s money there’s also frequently mischief,” she added.

    I’m quite certain that the Democrats are experts at this.

    Also:

    Study: Smokers Appear Less Likely to Be Hospitalised with COVID-19

    What next? Alcohol is good for you?

  27. Roger

    “We want as many people being able to work as we possibly can, and we want them to be able to access child care as they need,” [Morrison] told the ABC’s Afternoon Briefing program.

    This has been Uniparty policy for decades now. Framed as enlightened, progressive policy, it’s actually a sign of a society that has its priorities precisely the wrong way around and which is hence destined for long term decline.

    Guess who pioneered it?

    The vast majority of Soviet families require the salary of a working wife to make ends meet. Repeatedly, Soviet citizens express astonishment when they learn that an American father can support a family of two, three or four children without his wife’s working. Many are also surprised that American women would willingly have more than one child.

    In the Soviet Union, Day Care is the Norm (NYT, 1974).

  28. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From bollux at 9:58 am:

    “Buy some popcorn when the coward they call Scott tries to wind this back. He will never have the guts. Good times for all and more coming. Anyone still doubt this is a leftard experiment?”

    Where have you been?

    Gough Whitlam and Jim Cairns and their comrades kicked all this off 50 years ago, not Morrison in 2020. Look up their names in an encyclopedia.

    You can call it what you like but Morrison, just like every prime minister before him, is giving the punters precisely what they voted for, more and more of the government’s money. He knows, as they knew, that the moment he stops doing that he becomes Leader of the Opposition. “coward” and “guts” has nought to do with it but you surely do, grow up.

    Look in the mirror and all around you to see who is to blame. In due course the mugs might switch their lazy brains on and realise where the “government’s money” comes from and do something about it. Don’t hold your breath though.

  29. Dr Faustus

    Post Corona Virus, the government won’t be able to retire all these measure.

    Guaranteed.
    Too much Genie, not enough bottle.

  30. Terry

    C.L.
    #3390471, posted on April 3, 2020 at 9:24 am
    “The Liberal Wets market.”
    Nailed it.

    The source of the Socialist virus plaguing the nation.

  31. Boambee John

    Gladys is cowering behind the “advice” of the NSW CMO.

    Would that be the same CMO whose deputy is rumoured to have allowed disembarkation without health checks for cruise passengers? Don’t recall seeing the (former) deputy lining up at Centrelink?

  32. Roger

    Post Corona Virus, the government won’t be able to retire all these measure[s].

    Did someone say retire?”

    You’ll be working until you’re 80 to pay for these measures.

  33. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From candy at 10:16 am:

    “There is definite feeling [in my left knee] that Scott Morrison and the National Cabinet have no steadying influence on them at all. They may need an older wiser head to settle them a bit.”

    Who?, I wonder. That Wong chap is over fifty and a father (who pretends to have squirted a child into some sheila). Mark Doofus is over 60. Fatso Payne is rising 60, no children and only general housework to keep her busy, so she’s available; and that abo minister bloke from WA who looks as white as can be – Wyatt-a-Booga-Booga is near 70, with 340,763 years of deep cultural stick figure paintings (mostly found on rocks near proposed mine sites) to guide him. He also has Big Man experience handing out valuable favours to obedient people.

    and from John Comnenus at 10:30 am:

    “… whilst scaring the public with the suggestion of an Italy type situation when there is almost no chance of that happening. The numbers of new cases continue to fall as more capacity comes on line and existing capacity is not maxed out.”

    It’s good to have a detailed list of hospital beds nationally and yesterday’s movements in and out; and a health futures divining rod.

    I enjoy when people let a random idea fall into their brain, have a glass of water to help it to soak in and establish, then speak it as fact.

  34. I think one of the problems that this government has is the fact that similar measures are happening elsewhere around the world and if something similar is not pursued here, then the government of the day is ripe for massive criticism and will be remembered at the next election.

    I don’t like all these handouts, but you would see it with any party and that’s what politics is all about. I guarantee that anyone here that had the opportunity to go into politics and wanted to stay in politics would do exactly the same.

  35. Roger

    I think one of the problems that this government has is the fact that similar measures are happening elsewhere around the world and if something similar is not pursued here, then the government of the day is ripe for massive criticism and will be remembered at the next election. I guarantee that anyone here that had the opportunity to go into politics and wanted to stay in politics would do exactly the same.

    “No one will really understand politics until they understand that politicians are not trying to solve our problems. They are trying to solve their own problems — of which getting elected and re-elected are No. 1 and No. 2. Whatever is No. 3 is far behind”.

    Thomas Sowell, Economist

  36. Roger
    #3390725, posted on April 3, 2020 at 12:17 pm

    Precisely!

  37. mundi

    Every economic thing that have done so far is stupid.

    JobSeeker boost doesn’t start unitl April 27th, basically over a month since employees have been without work, and possibly we will see some lifting by then. Most of the money is going to people completely not impacted like existing people on welfare and pensioners.

    JobKeeper will apply to almost no companies at all since its based on Q1 BAS. So to get a 30% drop in Q1 revenue, which basically entirely happened in march, you would need to go from 100% Jan/Feb to basically 0% in March.

    The 30% is arbitary, so is the 50%, so is the $3b limit. None of it makes any sense.

    Even more bizarre is JobKeeper will be paying people to not work…. Not to show up and keep working. But to not work at all.

    Then you get free child care to look after your kids while you are not working.

    Then the government is saying workers have preference for child care… as if he knows the demand will really come from all the dead beat parents sending them to care rather than looking after them while they sit at home on benefiits.

    Then it only applies to people who already had child care. So if you have an elderly grand parent who can’t watch kids due to virus risk, you can’t go and get the subsidised child care.

    We are seeing unintended idiotic consequences everywhere.

    We are in situation where we will not get jobkeeper for our staff, but our competitor will. Imagine how idiotic that is.

  38. Zatara

    Why not allow people to pay their neighbours to look after their kids with an income tax exemption for the payment. Keeps it off the public purse.

    What am I missing?

    One word, Control.

  39. John Comnenus

    Tel,

    We did one critical thing different to almost everyone else. We didn’t let 200,000 Chinese, mainly uni students, turn up without screening after 1 Feb & luckily before the start of the first uni semester. I have heard reports that 175,000 people fled Wuhan in January. They went to all corners of the globe – but not to Australia without screening. I will bet, that in the wash up, that this one measure will be attributed to our relatively low caseload and mortality rate. Apparently Italy allowed 100,000 Chinese guest workers to flood into the country after Christmas and in January and February.

    We were too slow to apply the same measures to those coming from Europe and the Ruby Princess or whatever the ship is called was a catastrophe.

  40. bollux

    Mick Gold Coast QLD: You realise Whitlam and Cairns are dead? Morrison and his socialist mob are in a position to do something unlike Gough. Because Gough injected us with left wing poison doesn’t mean The Liberals needed to adopt it and invent their own, like a $225 billion submarine scheme to help with the enslavement. I really am struggling to understand the government and am convinced that self preservation is the only ethos they follow.

  41. Eyrie

    “Perhaps New Yorkers live in more closed in apartments with lifts and common areas, more surfaces to touch communally and so on. A question of degree, not difference.”

    Large cities and people living in apartments are foul shitholes that need to be cleansed and sterilised by the blinding white light of nuclear hellfire.

  42. Tel

    John Comnenus,

    That might explain why we didn’t get an uptick in cases, but the lethality of the cases that we DID GET is still much lower. I’ve been told our healthcare is a much better system than places like New York but I don’t believe it. We had similar shortages of basic equipment (gloves, masks, sanitizer) for hospitals as the Americans were facing.

    In the USA the total number of cases sat fairly flat until early March and then zoomed up, which does not look to me like normal exponential growth. Early March does approximately match the start of the university season, once you allow for a couple of weeks random incubation.

  43. Tel

    “Perhaps New Yorkers live in more closed in apartments with lifts and common areas, more surfaces to touch communally and so on. A question of degree, not difference.”

    Sydney is exactly like that, only the apartments tend to be newer.

  44. Tel

    You’ll be working until you’re 80 to pay for these measures.

    Once they figure out you actually intend to pay up, they will spend a bit extra.

  45. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From bollux at 2:08 pm:

    “Mick Gold Coast QLD: You realise Whitlam and Cairns are dead? Morrison and his socialist mob are in a position to do something unlike Gough. Because Gough injected us with left wing poison doesn’t mean The Liberals needed to adopt it and invent their own, like a $225 billion submarine scheme to help with the enslavement. I really am struggling to understand the government and am convinced that self preservation is the only ethos they follow.”

    I find I must say again:

    “Morrison, just like every prime minister before him, is giving the punters precisely what they voted for, more and more of the government’s money. He knows, as they knew, that the moment he stops doing that he becomes Leader of the Opposition.”

    Morrison and everyone else in the Liberal Branch of the Labor Party “are in a position to do” precisely nothing fundamental about what they do and how they do it.

    You have “a $225 billion submarine scheme” out there swinging in the breeze for unclear reason. I’ll have to assume you mean Morrison must cancel the contract. The Frogs’ lawyers would start at double the contract price and settle at perhaps half, a disappointment fee penalty of $100 billion. What a splendid idea.

    “I really am struggling to understand the government”

    Don’t waste your time – they are not spending much time at all trying to understand you.

    “I … am convinced that self preservation is the only ethos they follow”

    Now we are starting to agree on something. 😉

  46. Has Morrison and all his advisers really lost their marbles this time????

    I kept rereading the press release to make sure I got it right. So – child care centres are losing income because parents have lost jobs & are withdrawing their children – so, the government are to make the care free – so that the parents can stay at home child-free?? Oh please!

    Why is the child care business so special that it will not revive, like any other business (or not), when this thing is over?

    In addition, the supposed out-of-work parent is already receiving a government payment. And what of the parents who are NOT out of work? Assumably they also get free childcare! Unbelievable. Tell me, I’m wrong, please.

  47. sfw

    Can anyone tell what the grand plan is?

    As far as I can make out the government thinks it has two options.

    1 – Minimise infections, stall the economy indefinitely and hope a vaccine comes along before we are eating dirt.

    2 – Try to erase the virus here no matter how long it takes or what it costs and keep the borders closed indefinitely allowing only minimal overseas flights and all passengers quarantined for two weeks.

    I know there are other options but it seems the gov is only considering the above two, or am I missing something?

  48. Tell me, I’m wrong, please.

    Unfortunately, I don’t think your logic can be faulted.

  49. nfw

    “Stay at home”; “go to work”. Good thing we’re still paying (how?) for politicians and public servants isn’t it? In the words of that great philosopher Gordon Shumway: Which is it?

  50. John A

    John Comnenus #3390819, posted on April 3, 2020, at 1:32 pm

    Tel,

    We did one critical thing different to almost everyone else. We didn’t let 200,000 Chinese, mainly uni students, turn up without screening after 1 Feb & luckily before the start of the first uni semester.

    Nor did we encourage people to hug a Chinese person, shake hands with them and express our Anti-Wacism physically as they did in NooYok and Frisco (at the be(s)hest of the infamous Nancy Pelosi).

  51. shatterzzz

    Once you give everyone free child care and double Jobseeker amount etc, income supplements, no eviction from rental properties even for not paying, how do you take it back to pre virus?
    I mean, which government would go to election on that. They would simply lose.

    I’m sure that AnAl using the silence is golden tack is taking this all under management .. No wonder Labor ‘s leadership is invisible Scottie from Marketing is the LaborParty’s wet dream!

  52. Colin Suttie

    Tel

    “In the USA the total number of cases sat fairly flat until early March and then zoomed up, which does not look to me like normal exponential growth.”

    The number of cases closely tracks the number of tests. Felix Scholkmann posted a graph on Twitter showing the rate of infection is pretty consistent, i.e. not exponential growth:

  53. Catfeesh?

    “Even though mum and dad are at home with little else to do”

    What bullshit is this? Mum and Dad have plenty to do. For several minutes at a time.

  54. Squirrel

    “The Liberal Wets market.” – genius!

    On the detail – this policy is, aside from vote-buying, basically about propping up and juicing the property market (and thus, in current circumstances, about keeping the banks afloat).

  55. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From vicki at 3:41 pm:

    “Has Morrison and all his advisers really lost their marbles this time????

    I kept rereading the press release to make sure I got it right. So – child care centres are losing income because parents have lost jobs & are withdrawing their children – so, the government are to make the care free – so that the parents can stay at home child-free?? Oh please!

    Why is the child care business so special …

    In addition, the supposed out-of-work parent is already receiving a government payment. And what of the parents who are NOT out of work? Assumably they also get free childcare! Unbelievable. Tell me, I’m wrong, please.”

    A child care business is special because … well … just because. Don’t pose stupid questions.

    Parents who work are heroic and essential. Can you not imagine the pressure they feel carrying the nation while so many are allowed to go home and do nothing? They are like serving in a war zone, like. Do you really expect them to go home and raise their children as well, without support? Working parents don’t have a lot of spare time to spend on their children, who are a community asset after all.

    You also fail to properly appreciate the difficulty of capturing me-time, an essential metric¹ of one’s journey according to one’s therapist. The life coach also endorses this fundamental human right. One’s skin just glows since discovering dolphin pee facial application cream, don’t you think.

    As to the financial supplement. It goes some way towards the compensation government ought to be paying the young for the appalling residential market they must endure. Like, compared to their boomer parents who got to pay less than $200,000 for their home last century, located much closer to the city and the restaurants and the tennis club. So many of these selfish older people stay put on their $200,000 share, refusing to sell up. This denies the children rightful access to their $1,750,000 proportion (less half the selling costs which the parents should be picking up anyway, it’s their house) – how inequitable is that?

    ¹ I have waited for weeks to use this word in this idiotic but fashionable context. My next objective is to write about some random “threat” just so I can preface it with “existential”, to be fashionable without adding any meaning at all.

  56. Scott Osmond

    Vicki, you are assuming they had marbles to lose. Sadly evidence over the last 10 months shows that Slowmo and company didn’t have any marbles to begin with. I won’t bore readers with the list but I think they are just throwing shit at the wall and hoping for the best. Let’s make a decision. Let’s announce it. Oh? how will it work? Um, let me and the administration work the details out and we’ll get back to you. Give us a couple of weeks. I think what we are seeing, like the 10k cash ban is a class of leaders and administrators who have never been in business, never been accountable to the market and have always worked in the loving arms of government where you are cushioned from consequences.

  57. Andre Lewis

    Surely the ‘free’ childcare could be limited to people working as an incentive to keep going. Why is it available to people out of work who can look after their own kids?

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