Friday Forum: April 3, 2020

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  1. Mother Lode

    Sixth!

    So pleased I will sayt it three times.

    666!

  2. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    New Fred – all bright and shiny..

  3. Professor Fred Lenin

    Stroke of luck just doing Wuhan CD ese Bat disease casualties and 9found this ! Numbers of sick rising 300 400 per day in whole country ,perhaps the home detention is working ,considering the number of people who have to get about still. We will never forgive the Chinese Communist Fascist Globalists ,they will pay for this disruption .

  4. Can anyone tell me please, what essential work do Queensland public servants do to even think of asking for a pay rise? I also note that Victoria’s pollies are getting big raises. Health Minister Mikakos says that’s ok because it was approved by an independent board. Just hurry up and die peasants.

  5. Professor Fred Lenin

    Zulu. , I’m an old Fred 83 this year ,and still attacking stupidity .

  6. Fleeced

    “Prime Minister Scott Morrison has warned that heavy restrictions on Australia could last longer than six months.”

    I swear this guy’s going to cop a fucking bullet. Not a death threat – just pointing out the risks.

  7. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    Just squeezed into the First XV

  8. Cardimona

    Here’s a letter no paper wants to print…

    Politicians of all persuasions all around the world have promptly shut down their economies because they perceive COVID-19 to be a real danger.

    By contrast, no politician anywhere has done anything remotely like that for “dangerous man-made global warming”.

    COVID-19 has removed all doubt that the last forty years of global cooling/global warming/climate change alarmism was entirely fake.

  9. calli

    Fresh.

    Keep the racket down and no one will know we’re here.

  10. Old School Conservative

    No-one at The Oz seems to notice these side-by-side contradictory headlines:

    New virus cases drop to lowes levels in weeks.
    NSW Premier warns restriction measures will likely be in place for 6 months.

  11. calli

    That’s a thing of beauty, Cardi.

    No wonder it’s red hot.

  12. Cardimona

    On renewables, for the non-technical folks.
    From a bloke some Cats know.

    Now, FCAS, and synchronous vs asynchronous.

    Conventional mechanical generators must, absolutely must, run at constant speed to produce output at the required AC frequency.
    In Australia, as well you know, that frequency, set by an Australian Standard, is 50 Hz, or 50 cycles per second, with very tight limits on variance from that figure.
    For a 2-pole machine (the minimum number of magnetic poles is 2, that’s what a magnet consists of after all, two poles – conventionally called north and south),
    that constant speed is 50 cycles per second. That’s 50 cycles per second x 60 seconds per minute = 3000 rpm.
    Where there is a network of connected conventional generators, not only must they all run at 50 Hz, but they must run in phase so that they
    are all of them producing the same part of the voltage sine wave at exactly the same time instant.
    If any one of them strays from the phase and or frequency requirement, the collective of machines automatically pulls the straying generator back into lock sync,

    So, where does this result in synchronous inertia?
    All conventional machines are consist of mechanical rotors and stators. What matters in each machine, for our purposes is that the rotor has mass,
    that it is spinning, so therefore the fact that it has mass means that the inherent moment of inertia results in that spinning mass having angular momentum.
    The larger the rotor mass, the larger the angular momentum. So, there’s the source of the term “system inertia”.
    That all the machines are spinning, their spin speeds locked together to the same speed, means that the inertia is operating in synchronism,
    hence the more exact term: “synchronous inertia”.

    Given that all those generators are spinning, locked together, at the same synchronous speed, the total angular angular momentum is much. much larger
    than that of any single machine.
    Presuming that on the network there will be large generators, such as those at Liddell or Loy Yang, to name a couple of typical installations,
    then, in adding up the combined mass of those rotors, one very quickly comes into the hundreds, perhaps thousands, of tonnes of spinning machinery,
    all locked together in synchronism. That’s a huge quantity of angular momentum. Very much like a large moving ship in the non-rotational world.
    And, it’s always present while ever these machines are operating.
    Now, try to throw that sort of rotational momentum out of whack, by belting it with any sort of transient, (like that from a bolt of lightning,
    or that from a large load tripping out). These events produce nasty jolts, but it is going to take a lot to jolt such a system out of synchronism.

    The generation of electrical energy does not necessarily require the use of spinning machines, but once one chooses to use such machinery,
    then the mechanical inertia comes along for the ride, as it were. It is only because that moment of inertia is an inherent property of a rotating mass
    that the entire “baggage” if you like of the mechanical angular momentum becomes an inherent part of the operation of a grid based on the use of
    those machines. That it is present though is not a disadvantage because its presence makes any grid system based on the use of such generators very very robust in the matter of dealing with shocks to that system.
    And, as we know, such shocks are frequent, sometimes large, and are all part of operating any system in the real world.

    Other options for the generation of electrical energy now include the use of such as wind generators and solar panels.
    The latter don’t move, much less rotate, so there can be no mechanical inertia there that might be used to cushion against disturbances.
    Wind “turbines” are in a somewhat different category. Yes, they do consist of reasonably heavy mechanical rotors, but the speed at which these rotors spin
    is virtually completely decoupled from the grid frequency by the frequency conversion electronics that couples the “turbine” to the grid.
    One could go into a long and involved explanation but one way of thinking about why this decoupling has to be in place is to consider that,
    because gusting, turbulence, etc., is an inherent property of the wind, then, in order to be able to couple a wind generator to the grid,
    given that all that inherent variability is occurring on a second-by-second basis in its own drive train, then the power electronics must be
    fully effective in being able to decouple it from the grid.
    So, in simple terms, there can be no angular momentum “coming along for the ride” originating in the operation of wind or solar farms.
    If you want to provide grid system protection by means of the use of mechanical inertia in such systems, then something else, a separate service if you like,
    must be operated in addition to provide it.

    Now for some fun.
    What are we going to call this separate service that we would need when the generation is not based on rotating machines?
    The AEMO, which is incredibly good (sarc) at coming up with easily identifiable, catchy labels, came up with “FCAS”, standing for frequency control ancillary services.
    See, simple.
    Surely it should be instantly apparent to 99% of Aussies that, well, what’s required is a service, it’s function is to control the grid frequency
    to stay at 50 Hz, and it’s, well, ancillary.
    So, why does the term require an explanation?
    As for “synchronous”, or “inertia”, well, who cares?
    End of sarc.

    I guess that’s their view. To be cynical, what is clear to me is that the NEM, the AEMO, is in the business of obscurity.
    Consider: the service is hardly one that could be called, by any stretch of the imagination, “ancillary”.
    It is an absolutely essential service.

    Another aspect that is particularly galling: we are told, ad nauseum, by such as the wind industry, that these intermittent renewables
    will replace baseload generators. The “synchronous inertia” came for free with conventional mechanical generation
    but now it has to be paid for, as a separate very large cost. worn ultimately by the consumer, as FCAS.

  13. Old School Conservative

    That would be lowest, not an ad for a clothing store.

  14. stackja

    My, the cycle is short.

  15. stackja

    Once people worked and took local vacations. Then people flew, went on cruises. Now people work from home. And wait.

  16. Xi caused it.
    WHO is an agent of the CCP.
    China sucks.

    My contribution to overloading the CCP web crawlers.

  17. cohenite

    Cardimona
    #3390569, posted on April 3, 2020 at 10:26 am
    On renewables, for the non-technical folks.
    From a bloke some Cats know.

    Tony of Oz?

  18. Mother Lode

    “Prime Minister Scott Morrison has warned that heavy restrictions on Australia could last longer than six months.”

    Perhaps he wants to be dumped. He seems determined to make the government’s management look so toxic that someone surely knife him and then unravel some of this.

    For cryin’ out loud, he comes from the shire and one of the most obvious examples of overreach has been kicking ordinary people off the beach – he can’t be unaware of how unpopular all of this is.

  19. Tom

    “Prime Minister Scott Morrison has warned that heavy restrictions on Australia could last longer than six months.”

    I swear this guy’s going to cop a fucking bullet.

    Morrison has not only never had a real job in his life, his clownery in the past month also reveals he has never understood how an economy works — even when he was Turnbull’s treasurer.

    His only hope of winning the next election will be to convince a majority of voters that Albo would be worse. I think that excuse for wrecking the Australian economy will be wearing thin by 2022. Might as well have real socialism from Labour instead of fake conservatism.

  20. Professor Fred Lenin

    If this plague persists the Chinese may like the Germans have to apply to rejoin the human race.

  21. Infidel Tiger

    “Prime Minister Scott Morrison has warned that heavy restrictions on Australia could last longer than six months.”

    A problem he created for a virus no one in Australia has.

    Leadership.

  22. In a recent study Chinese scientists have discovered that very ill patients do not die from COVID-19 after inserting 8 grams of lead into the back of the head at high speed.

  23. stackja

    Professor Fred Lenin
    #3390595, posted on April 3, 2020 at 10:45 am
    If this plague persists the Chinese may like the Germans have to apply to rejoin the human race.

    First the West Germans held democratic elections. X-1 is a dictator like Germany 1944 and East Germany 1949.

  24. thefrollickingmole

    According to the radio suicide hotline is getting about 3000 calls a day
    Highest ever.

    Lot of wrecked blokes (and ladies) who have seen their sense of self worth incinerated along with their businesses/jobs.

    All done deliberately.

  25. stackja

    incoherent rambler
    #3390599, posted on April 3, 2020 at 10:47 am

    Before or after organs taken?

  26. thefrollickingmole

    incoherent rambler

    North Korea has a fluctuating tally that doesnt get above 1.
    I believe they pioneered the treatment you are talking about.

    10101010101010101010

  27. Pete of Perth

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  28. lotocoti

    “Prime Minister Scott Morrison has warned that heavy restrictions on Australia could last longer than six months.”

    Six weeks I can understand for those currently in Stalag Oz (absent any more World Cruise For Climate Justice dickheads).
    Only inbound/outbound tourism should be looking at six months or more of heavy restrictions.

  29. Cardimona

    Cohenite, no, not Tony from Oz.

    But how good is that explanation?
    I reckon there’s some* journos and pollies that could grasp it.

    * maybe as many as 20 individuals in Australia….

  30. Pete of Perth

    Social distancing or the Gestapo will get you

  31. vlad

    From Bolta today:

    In Victoria, the recovery data shows that there was actually a fall yesterday in the number of Victorians who were sick. More people recovered than got sick – a difference of 11. That means fewer medical resources were tied up and fewer people were likely to infect others. This is very good news. People need to know it.

  32. egg_

    I noticed the Candybot advising to use gloves, when even ABC News had a segment two nights ago saying don’t use gloves* and just wash your hands with soap.
    Knock off the misinformation, Grigs.

    *Just like any surface, the bugs hang around for hours, numpty.

  33. bespoke

    I’m very happy I’m no longer a principal. They’re earning their money.–1735099

    😎

  34. egg_

    Social distancing or the Gestapo will get you

    500 protesters go to Bondi beach – what are they going to do?

  35. stackja

    Wet markets established after Mao destroyed Chinese agriculture. What could possibly go wrong?

  36. No-one at The Oz seems to notice these side-by-side contradictory headlines:

    New virus cases drop to lowes (sic) levels in weeks.
    NSW Premier warns restriction measures will likely be in place for 6 months.

    They’re complimentary, not contradictory.
    One is a result of the other.
    The period under restrictions at the moment is open-ended.
    Six months is probably a reasonable projection.
    It may not be necessary, but unless you have a reliable crystal ball, all we can rely on is the rate of infection data. The trend, in Oz, at least, is in the right direction.
    This is most likely a consequence of the restrictions, although we will need to wait a bit longer for that to be clear.
    The consequences of relaxing the restrictions too early would be catastrophic.

  37. egg_

    “Prime Minister Scott Morrison has warned that heavy restrictions on Australia could last longer than six months.”

    I swear this guy’s going to cop a fucking bullet. Not a death threat – just pointing out the risks.

    Friedeggburger’s chance to roll him – give it a few more weeks of “home detention” for Oz.

  38. bespoke

    egg_
    #3390617, posted on April 3, 2020 at 10:57 am
    1st

    1st fvckwit?

    Come on egg_ a bit of competition will be good for you. 😎

  39. Roger

    From Bolta today:

    In Victoria, the recovery data shows that there was actually a fall yesterday in the number of Victorians who were sick. More people recovered than got sick – a difference of 11. That means fewer medical resources were tied up and fewer people were likely to infect others. This is very good news. People need to know it.

    In breaking news, Daniel Andrews has issued a diktat that Andrew Bolt be taken into custody

  40. stackja

    The angry private now medical doctor?

  41. 500 protesters go to Bondi beach – what are they going to do?

    “We have you surrounded!
    Drop your bathers and come out with your towels up and you won’t get hurt. “

  42. Infidel Tiger

    WA could be declared disease free next week now we have slammed the border shut and still we won’t reopen.

    A golden opportunity missed.

    We would create world headlines worth billions in future investment by being able to do that.

  43. egg_

    even when he was Turnbull’s treasurer.

    Way out of his depth when he went off script, back then IIRC.
    Flummoxed with some cardboard signs on an easel.
    This retard is the Medicos’ puppet.

  44. Natural Instinct

    Time for some cheering up!!!
    .
    Let’s try some Russian poetry done by Joseph Brodsky during the Soviet times (1970)
    .

    Don’t leave the room, don’t blunder, do not go on.
    If you’re smoking Shipka, what good is the Sun?
    Outside, all is meaningless, especially – the cry of joy.
    To the lavatory and back straightaway, old boy.
    O, don’t leave the room, don’t call for a cab, my friend.
    Because Space is a corridor that will end
    with a meter. And, if your dear, delight expressing,
    walks inside, kick her out without undressing.
    Don’t leave the room; pretend that you have a cold.
    Four walls and a chair entice like nothing else in the world.
    Why leave the place that you’ll surely return to late in
    the night, as you were, only more – mutilated?
    O, don’t leave the room. Enchanted, dance bossa nova
    in shoes worn on bare feet, in a coat draped over
    your naked body. The hall reeks of ski wax and cabbage.
    You’ve written a lot; more would be extra baggage.
    Don’t leave the room. Let only the room imagine a little
    what you might look like. And besides, incognito
    ergo sum, as form itself learned from substance once.
    Don’t leave the room! Outside, you will not find France.
    Don’t be a fool! Be what others weren’t. Remain.
    Don’t leave the room! Let the furniture have free reign,
    blend in with wallpaper. Bolt the door, barricade in place
    with a dresser from chronos, cosmos, eros, virus, race.

  45. feelthebern

    Has anyone actually looked at the growth in new infections/hospitalisations/deaths?
    Australia should be 100% re-opened today.
    Including Sydney.
    Planes & boats should still be banned for now because we can’t trust these fvckers coming in at the moment.

  46. egg_

    a bit of competition will be good for you.

    No one’s a match for 1/8th Wang.

  47. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Lawyers’ pay cut in harsh virus verdict

    Jonathan Chancellor
    Property Reporter
    @MrJChancellor
    Christine Lacy
    Margin Call Columnist
    12:00AM April 3, 2020
    13 Comments

    Things are really tough when the partners at one of Australia’s big six law firms have to take a mooted 50 per cent pay cut as part of measures to weather the COVID-19 storm.

    The 270 partners at Minter Ellison have just seen their pay slashed, for some back to around $1m a year, as they prepare for the end of their multi-million-dollar world.

    You’d think their insolvency and restructuring lawyers would be in very high demand as they include some of the best in the country, including Michael Hughes and Brendon Watkins.

    From the Oz. It’s not all doom and gloom…

  48. egg_

    Has anyone actually looked at the growth in new infections/hospitalisations/deaths?
    Australia should be 100% re-opened today.
    Including Sydney.
    Planes & boats should still be banned for now because we can’t trust these fvckers coming in at the moment.

    Far too pragmatic for their Political class.
    This is a Global Emergency!!11!

  49. thefrollickingmole

    Natural Instinct

    Nobody does existential happiness like the Russians.

  50. bespoke

    egg_
    #3390617, posted on April 3, 2020 at 10:57 am
    1st

    1st fvckwit?

    Hey! egg_ Don’t be afraid I’m only an armature. 😎

    Zing!!

  51. egg_

    “We have you surrounded!
    Drop your bathers and come out with your towels up and you won’t get hurt. “

    Get fvcked, pig!

  52. Pete of Perth

    The greens have gone into lockdown. Hopefully they will stay there.

  53. cohenite

    I reckon there’s some* journos and pollies that could grasp it.

    The only thing journos and pollies can grasp is their dick. They wouldn’t know the difference between an inverter and a condenser.

    Mate, it is a good explanation. The public don’t understand the marvel which is a modern electricity grid; frequency, AC and synchronocity are just too hard for them. When I explain these I always put a $ sign on and compare it with roof-top so it’s relatable.

    So who is the mystery author.

  54. Roger

    This retard is the Medicos’ puppet.

    Yes, but just imagine the predicament we’d be in if SloMo hadn’t followed the CMO’s expert advice…we’d have closed the borders to foreign visitors & overseas students & would have quarantined returning Australians, thus preventing the Xi virus from gaining a foothold in the general community.

    We dodged a bullet there.

    Thankfully we now live in a police state with groceries rationed and free child care for all.

    Comrades.

  55. egg_

    Zing!!

    The sound of the Kitteh stalker?
    Broken (be)spoke?

  56. egg_

    This retard is the Medicos’ puppet.

    NSW Health who abrogated their responsibility and let the Ruby Princess disembark.
    Royal Commission?
    /Crickets

  57. bespoke

    Something is broken alright, sad. 😎

  58. candy

    It’s not the people coming in who can’t be trusted – it’s our own workers in Health and ABF.

    Given the Ruby Princess shocking debacle and Premier Gladys denying any responsibility of Health or ABF, and the Chinese students secretly allowed into the country, there’s a long way to go before we can trust the government agencies into the future.

  59. Bruce dawe has died.
    A great wordsmith, a great teacher, a great member of my generation, a great loss.

  60. stackja

    Australia faces the risk of a run on its super funds. While we are accustomed to thinking about the potential of a run on banks, the idea of a run on super is novel.

    Novel is the word? And Bernie Fraser? And Gary Weaven?

  61. egg_

    What are we going to call this separate service that we would need when the generation is not based on rotating machines?

    Direct Current

  62. stackja

    Lift restrictions? Let the virus spread? Survival of the fittest?

  63. NoFixedAddress

    Tailgunner

    I’d like to suggest another poster with the wording

    LEST WE FORGET
    ANZAC DAY 2020

  64. Nob

    1735099
    #3390654, posted on April 3, 2020 at 11:18 am
    Bruce dawe has died.
    A great wordsmith, a great teacher, a great member of my generation

    You were born before WW2?

  65. NoFixedAddress

    Chuck Schumer Demands Military Czar To Oversee Supply Chain – Trump Responds: Hey Dummy, His Name is “Admiral John Polowczyk”…

    A letter for the ages!

    The always political Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer sent a letter to President Trump today saying it was “long past the time” to name a senior military officer to lead the supply-chain effort.

    Senator Schumer was attempting to construct a political narrative around the administration not taking action to secure U.S. supply needs combating COVID-19.

    Talk about LOL

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/04/02/chuck-schumer-demands-military-czar-to-oversee-supply-chain-trump-responds-hey-dummy-his-name-is-admiral-john-polowczyk/

  66. Eyrie

    Replacing Scomoron with Friedeggchickenburger? Talk about out of the frying pan into the fire.

  67. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    1735099
    #3390654, posted on April 3, 2020 at 11:18 am
    Bruce dawe has died.
    A great wordsmith, a great teacher, a great member of my generation

    they’re bringing them in, piled on the hulls of Grants, in trucks, in convoys,
    they’re zipping them up in green plastic bags,
    they’re tagging them now in Saigon, in the mortuary coolness
    they’re giving them names, they’re rolling them out of
    the deep-freeze lockers – on the tarmac at Tan Son Nhut

    “hulls of Grants?”

  68. Tintarella di Luna

    WA could be declared disease free next week now we have slammed the border shut and still we won’t reopen.

    A golden opportunity missed.

    We would create world headlines worth billions in future investment by being able to do that.

    Must feel like back to the future say 30 June, 1900

  69. shatterzzz

    NSW Liberal MP Jason Falinski also said a pay cut would remain a live issue, but noted that many MPs were working longer hours to help constituents hit by the coronavirus pandemic.

    Never heard of this bloke, personally, so I’m a bit dubious of his claim but in the interests of fair play & fair suk of the sav Ozisms I’ll just ask the question .. “Does anyone have knowledge of any local member putting in the hard yards since they went on 5 months full pay holiday .. excluding Bradbury & Gladys who have to do the pressers and put their monikers on the daily rulings!
    The only time I, actually, remember who my local member is is whenever an election looms and the flyers start coming thick and fast .. As for the Senate .. other than Pauline (Feds) and Mark Latham (State) crickets ..

  70. egg_

    If Friedeggburger steers us away from ACTU (JobKeeper) and AMA (lockdown) control is our only hope.

    Free Childcare?
    Policy on the run?

  71. Boambee John

    They’re complimentary, not contradictory.

    Seagull speak, they say nice things to each other.

    Or would that be complementary?

  72. cohenite

    Bruce dawe has died.

    And the troll is still alive. There is no justice.

  73. cohenite

    NoFixedAddress
    #3390667, posted on April 3, 2020 at 11:29 am
    Chuck Schumer Demands Military Czar To Oversee Supply Chain – Trump Responds: Hey Dummy, His Name is “Admiral John Polowczyk”…

    Outstanding. We don’t deserve Trump. Fair dinkum you could kill every demorat pollie tomorrow and the world would be a better place. If the media were not lick spittles for the demorats Trump would win 2020 by 100%.

    Is the troll dead yet.

  74. Mother Lode

    NSW Liberal MP Jason Falinski also said a pay cut would remain a live issue, but noted that many MPs were working longer hours to help constituents hit by the coronavirus pandemic.

    This is absurd. Most senior people in the private sector see their job as getting things done whether it takes a 40 hrs week or longer.

    Managing this stuff is their job. If they are working longer hours than they usually do then that is their job.

    And the fact remains that much of their extra work is fixing up their screw ups – which they are remedying with more screw ups.

    Even their spin doctors need spin doctors to stop them coming off as vain and retarded.

  75. Infidel Tiger

    Lift restrictions? Let the virus spread? Survival of the fittest?

    Yep.

    Avoid Chinese. Avoid cruise shippers.

    Live your life.

  76. NoFixedAddress

    Too good a summary of ‘da models’ by Tel to leave at the end of the OOT
    Tel
    #3390668, posted on April 3, 2020 at 11:29 am

    If you do a search on Modelling transmission and control of the COVID-19 pandemic in Australia you’ll have the lot. (24 page pdf document released 23/3/2020)

    Thanks NFA, got it.

    They used the China data as their calibration, and they decided that children would usually not catch it.

    Another key constraint was a low attack rate in children, reported to be in single digits, for example, only 2.4% of all reported cases in China were children. In doing the calibration, we varied several “free” variables, such as transmission and contact rates, the fraction of symptomatic cases (making it age-dependent ), the probability of transmission for both symptomatic and asymptomatic agents, and the infectivity profile from the onset of infection.

    I remember Mitch saying he didn’t give much credence to the China data, but there’s an even bigger problem that the number of asymptomatic and undetected cases remains completely unknown. Finding these cases depends heavily on testing, and the tests are still under development, plus the methodology of testing and reporting has changed several times.

    There’s some other weird assumptions:

    Social distancing (SD) has been implemented in our model by removing all working group contacts, and setting all non-household contacts to 10% of the standard rate, while keeping the contacts within households unaltered. As mentioned above, the SD compliance levels vary from the zero-SD mode to the full lockdown mode, with a fraction of agents (the SD compliance level) following these constraints. Similar to the restriction on international arrivals, SD strategy is triggered by crossing the threshold of 1,000 cases.

    Australia reached 1000 cases on the 21st of March, which is when they started going to all their crazy stuff and shutting the country down.

    Thing is the simulation presumed that all work stops … they made no allowance for the economy whatsoever.

  77. 500 protesters go to Bondi beach – what are they going to do?

    “Cease, desist and leave the area immediately or we will open fire”

  78. Top Ender

    My book on the A-Bomb attacks is now in pre-order:

    https://www.bigskypublishing.com.au/books/atomic-salvation/

    I shall be hunkering down – underground – in Marble Bar when it comes out, until the sniping subsides….

  79. lotocoti

    “hulls of Grants?”

    One of the traps of FanFic, I’m afraid.
    I’m surprised they weren’t being flown out on Iron Annies.

  80. Old School Conservative

    Daniel Andrews has issued a diktat that Andrew Bolt be taken into custody

    Hooded street urchins ready, willing, and able to have a go.
    VicPlod will never be able to find them though.

  81. Arky

    Here, if you want to understand daigou and why you can’t currently buy the things you need to protect your family, and how our foreign student university model and cheap imported crap economy has recoiled (predictably) on us, listen to the start of this:
    ..


  82. Chris

    “hulls of Grants?”

    An Australia Council reference perhaps.

  83. egg_

    Lift restrictions? Let the virus spread? Survival of the fittest?

    The fire is going to burn out half the paddock – it’s just a matter of how quickly vs ICU beds.
    There is no vaccine.

  84. NoFixedAddress

    Who Believes WHO?


    The astute reader is probably wondering, what do the IPCC and WHO have in common? That’s an excellent question. The correct answer is not both organizations are part of that behemoth known as the United Nations. WHO is a specialized agency of the U.N. allegedly responsible for international public health, part of the U.N. Sustainable Development Group.

    This means in reality, the WHO is a political organization, not a medical one. What the IPCC is to climate science, WHO is to medicine. In other words, put a stethoscope on Bozo the Clown, and he could be the WHO media relations specialist.

    https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/04/who_believes_who.html

  85. stackja

    Top Ender
    #3390690, posted on April 3, 2020 at 11:47 am

    Ordered.

  86. egg_

    “Cease, desist and leave the area immediately or we will open fire”

    Who will have the balls to fire the first shot into a crowd of 500?

  87. Geriatric Mayfly

    Another silver lining. From the OT

    There have been many. The writers’ Soviet cancelled, ditto the UN climate jamboree and other junkets funded by other people. However, I shall miss sitting in front of the telly with strawberries and cream, when Wimbledon should be underway.

  88. Who will have the balls to fire the first shot into a crowd of 500?

    Oops. Sorry sarge.

  89. egg_

    “Cease, desist and leave the area immediately or we will open fire”

    Who will have the balls to fire the first shot into a crowd of 500?

    They didn’t even have the ba lls to shoot Man Monis.

  90. Arky

    That’s the one.
    Sorry for screw ups.

  91. They didn’t even have the ba lls to shoot Man Monis.

    Quite happy to shoot a few law abiding citizens though.

  92. egg_

    Oops. Sorry sarge.

    Dismembered.

  93. Chris

    Who will have the balls to fire the first shot into a crowd of 500?

    RIFLEMAN NUMBER ONE!
    THE MAN IN THE RED SHIRT
    ONE ROUND
    FIRE

    Some are (or were) trained for that.

  94. Old School Conservative

    Nice get BJ.
    My compliments.

  95. thefrollickingmole

    Top Ender
    #3390690, posted on April 3, 2020 at 11:47 am
    My book on the A-Bomb attacks is now in pre-order:

    https://www.bigskypublishing.com.au/books/atomic-salvation/

    Tried to do a purchase but getting a credit card expired error.
    Bank says card is fine.
    Might be worth a check with the publisher in case the problem is at their end perhaps.

  96. Professor Fred Lenin

    Sad news , the untidy nayshins climate changing comisariat has post phoned the emergency urgent climate crisis meeting in Glasgow Scotland for a year so obviously no change is expected to the climate for that period . No doubt the 30<00p !yes 30,p00 experts will have to be compensated for being deprived of their annual taxpayer funded trip with six star accommodation . Per haps the fact that 30,000,yes 30,000. Drones are not flying to the meeting cancels out the co2 build up for the year?
    Islamophobia, er no homophobia , no mizojenee,er no ugh racism ,no no climate change oh wait a minute Er covid 19 virus is the greatest threat to mankind ,sorry human feck it people in the world today .
    Did I get that right. It’s so bloody confusing .

  97. Eyrie

    Top Ender, I could make a case that the Bf109 was the stand out fighter of WW2. Relatively easy to produce, first flew 1935 and with improvements still competitive at war’s end.

  98. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    My book on the A-Bomb attacks is now in pre-order:

    I’ve bagged a couple of copies, but I’m presuming you’ll be doing signed copies?

  99. Speedbox

    Asleep at the wheel but made the first CXX.

  100. Tel

    In other words, put a stethoscope on Bozo the Clown, and he could be the WHO media relations specialist.

    Very very unfair to Bozo who is a nice guy with a heartfelt desire to entertain and amuse.

  101. Porcelain Monkey

    “hulls of Grants”? The Grant tank doesn’t seem to have been used in Vietnam.

    Couple of pics for last night aircraft junkies. US National Air and Space Museum.

  102. stackja

    thefrollickingmole
    #3390720, posted on April 3, 2020 at 12:11 pm

    Strange. I didn’t have problem.

  103. Tel

    COVID-19 has removed all doubt that the last forty years of global cooling/global warming/climate change alarmism was entirely fake.

    The commies now understand that infiltration via the health services is more effective than infiltration via the meteorological bureau.

  104. To be honest, there are many businesses still open for trade here in my town. A few have closed of their own volition but I don’t see any total disruption of anything. Although fishing apparently is banned, I will be taking the kids out. I don’t see plod enforcing any edicts from Premier Andrews.
    If any police do pull you over and are over officious, you can tell they are the ones who want to climb the ladder to higher roles like Commissioner.
    As an aside, Bionic Woman is on. Quite humourous.

  105. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    “hulls of Grants”? The Grant tank doesn’t seem to have been used in Vietnam.

    Well spotted. That was the point I was trying to make, indeed.

  106. MACK

    Victoria is now officially a police state – you can be fined for going out without a good reason. Contact your MP and complain.
    https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/202003/Stay%20at%20Home%20Directions%20.pdf

  107. Some History

    …and one of the most obvious examples of overreach has been kicking ordinary people off the beach

    https://imgur.com/VypUcnH

  108. Anthony

    Not sure why everybody is panicked about the virus affecting the finance system. By removing all expenditure directed towards global nonsense we solve both the problems of global warming/cooling/whatever and the financial problems associated with ‘going over the top’ to ‘save’ our economy.

  109. notafan

    Are you supposed to italicize the word sic when you are quoting someone else and pointing out their typos/spelling errors?

  110. “Cardimona
    #3390562, posted on April 3, 2020 at 10:23 am
    Here’s a letter no paper wants to print…

    Politicians of all persuasions all around the world have promptly shut down their economies because they perceive COVID-19 to be a real danger.

    By contrast, no politician anywhere has done anything remotely like that for “dangerous man-made global warming”.

    COVID-19 has removed all doubt that the last forty years of global cooling/global warming/climate change alarmism was entirely fake.”

    Hello Cardimona: Your insight now supported by the crash of the carbon credits market.

  111. Mark A:

    She will have nothing to do with any of us, gates closed my parents barred from visit, he is a builder has to sleep and live in the bungalow.
    Food is delivered to front gate and goes through a more thorough disinfection than the moon walkers did.

    Move the silly cow to the garage or chookpen. She needs a good wake up call, a bit of a slap across the arse, or she will become hysterical.
    Just my thoughts…

  112. Fleeced

    She will have nothing to do with any of us, gates closed my parents barred from visit, he is a builder has to sleep and live in the bungalow.
    Food is delivered to front gate and goes through a more thorough disinfection than the moon walkers did.

    If your brother doesn’t boot her out and divorce her, he’s an idiot.

  113. Narwhal Tusk

    Eyrie,
    I’m not disagreeing but those facts also applied to the Spitfire.
    Unless I am very much mistaken. h/t Murray Walker.
    I reckon Pierre Clostermann’s “The Big Show” was good.
    Finished up with Tempests.

  114. Dr Faustus

    COVID-19 has removed all doubt that the last forty years of global cooling/global warming/climate change alarmism was entirely fake.

    Climate activists are frothing at the bung over XiVirus.
    Opportunities abound: You thought that was terrifying? Well, try this [add disaster porn and stir]…

    A current favourite: Harness China’s exemplary discipline and leadership over WuFlu to bring about Climate Change change in the post-Trump era.

  115. Narwhal Tusk

    Speaking of WW2 planes, I thought Numbers would have had some insight.
    Through his old man who was in the RAAF.

  116. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Knuckle Dragger at 8:15 am on the previous Forum:

    “45’s been copping it for yonks Cassie.

    The day he started accurately* referring to it as ‘the Chinese virus’ he’s been pilloried by various halfwits across the US and beyond.

    The good news is, he doesn’t appear to give a fuck.”

    I like Donald Trump for many reasons and for that too. I am reminded of Paul Keating – stay with me for a second – who had the Bankstown boy persona down pat because that is what he was. He was quick onto the front foot, like Trump, and well able to reveal his menace with “Which one of you grubs wants to go first, eh? Yeah, gutless wonders.” He was pretty to watch when he was moved to deliver razor sharp insults in the Parliament.

    Donald Trump does not project menace but he has a rare even temperament, controlled, and he doesn’t increase the volume when he is giving someone a serve.

  117. Marty

    Just been looking at NSW Public health orders – Stay at home rules. It states “You may only leave home with a reasonable excuse, including to…”. The use of the word “excuse” rather than “reason” really irks me and betrays the authoritarian mind set of the people drawing up these rules.

  118. Infidel Tiger

    You have to laugh at the irony of the AFL “expanding the game” to China, only to have the feral bat eating degenerates send the game bankrupt.

  119. Bar Beach Swimmer

    “We have you surrounded!
    Drop your bathers and come out with your towels up and you won’t get hurt. “

    Went for another swim during this lock down. Lots of surfies out the back even though the waves were small.

    In the water probably 20 people. One bloke was walking out of the water and at the water’s edge met someone he obviously knew. They stood talking 2 metres apart for about 3 minutes. The surf life saver on duty over the PA advised everyone to move on and that the police were up on their way along the beach.

  120. NoFixedAddress

    Infidel Tiger
    #3390762, posted on April 3, 2020 at 12:50 pm

    You have to laugh at the irony of the AFL “expanding the game” to China, only to have the feral bat eating degenerates send the game bankrupt.

    and I laughed and laughed and laughed

  121. Infidel Tiger

    Is “cumulative cases” the most deceptive statistic in history?

  122. egg_

    Who will have the balls to fire the first shot into a crowd of 500?

    RIFLEMAN NUMBER ONE!
    THE MAN IN THE RED SHIRT
    ONE ROUND
    FIRE

    Some are (or were) trained for that.

    In the spirit of Gallipoli 500 codgers march on Bondi beach on ANZAC Day.
    If the RSL have the ba lls.

    How many codgers have to die to save a handful of codgers in hospital?
    /Shiny @rse
    /Zulu Dawn

  123. rick W:

    I think we start a meme that everyone is not just turning up to the Dawn Service but is bringing their .303.
    Imagine it got so viral that the Idiocracy were forced to comment on it and do something “extra” dumb in response.

    Turn up on the outskirts with a laser pointer.
    ‘mark’ the Idiocrats.
    Subtle but not too subtle the message won’t sink in the peasants are getting a bit miffed.

  124. thefrollickingmole

    stackja

    Ill try again later, may be a stupid glitch, card still has a year to run on the plastic.

  125. egg_

    Food is delivered to front gate and goes through a more thorough disinfection than the moon walkers did.

    /Howard Hughes

  126. notafan

    I see numbers is still spruiking for the Cuban dictatorship even through it has been shown to him, again and again that alleged Cuban longevity is faked by reclassification of early neonatal deaths and pressured abortion.

    With a ratio of over 70 abortions to every hundred live births Cuba is an utter disgrace.

    Without soap.

  127. bespoke

    Arky
    #3390712, posted on April 3, 2020 at 12:01 pm

    Cheers Arky That lead me to this one. Still only part way through.

  128. egg_

    Turn up on the outskirts with a laser pointer.

    A few laser pointers straying across Bondi beat cops oughta put the wind up ’em.
    Especially if they’re a few hundred milliwatts, Rifleman Jones.
    Drone mounted?
    Even better.

  129. egg_

    RIFLEMAN NUMBER ONE!
    THE MAN IN THE RED SHIRT
    ONE ROUND
    FIRE

    Try that against a crowd of angry muz zos.

  130. JC

    Depends on how you want to use the stat, artwald.

    It basically to tells you have many people have and had it. All good.

  131. lotocoti

    Top Ender, I could make a case that the Bf109 was the stand out fighter of WW2. Relatively easy to produce, first flew 1935 and with improvements still competitive at war’s end.

    Junkers powered 109s were shooting down Spitfires in 1948.
    The North American P51 was the best fighter in the ETO, the Mosquito, best multi-role.

  132. Boambee John

    egg

    They didn’t even have the ba lls to shoot Man Monis.

    He wasn’t a white male bogan.

  133. Rohan

    Old School Conservative
    #3390693, posted on April 3, 2020 at 11:50 am
    Daniel Andrews has issued a diktat that Andrew Bolt be taken into custody

    Hooded street urchins ready, willing, and able to have a go.
    VicPlod will never be able to find them though.

    Though it’s funny how well they find people quietly reading a book, all on thier lonesome in a park, on a perfect Autumn day. That individual won’t fine themselves $1000-6000 I suppose. #savinglives

  134. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger
    #3390768, posted on April 3, 2020 at 12:53 pm
    Is “cumulative cases” the most deceptive statistic in history?

    The grinning fucking idiot CMO in Viktorianistan has a permanent erection.
    Banning fishing and anything else the nanny activists at VikHelth can dream up.
    They were supposed to do a daily update, which they do, but it is meaningless gibberish, mostly citing new jackboot measures each day.
    They were quoting 900-ish cumulative cases, but buried back in the website is a three day old stat saying there had been over 300 recoveries.
    Of the 600 ‘live’ cases, there are less than 15% in hospital, and a handful in ICU.
    Yet the AMA activists are running around, flapping their arms, screaming “soooo stressful”.

  135. feelthebern

    4 million background checks conducted during the month of March in the US.
    The highest number on reckon since the federal government started tracking them.

  136. feelthebern

    Of the 600 ‘live’ cases, there are less than 15% in hospital, and a handful in ICU.

    These are the only stats that matter.

  137. egg_

    Trump’s talking of lifting restrictions in 2 weeks.
    Scomoron doesn’t have the ba lls?

  138. notafan

    Yup ICU and deaths/ recovered.

    I went to podiatrist this morning- one of the things we are still ‘allowed’ to do.

    He wants lock down to continue because of compromised brother and older parents.

    I said to him we can’t do this forever and the virus isn’t going to go away, if it’s as contagious as claimed.

    Oh.

  139. Boambee John

    Marty

    The use of the word “excuse” rather than “reason” really irks me and betrays the authoritarian mind set of the people drawing up these rules.

    More likely to be semi-illiteracy, after decades of the likes of numbers “complimenting” (sic) the education system?

  140. notafan

    Winter coming is all the more reason to get some herd immunity happening now amongst our young well population.

  141. Top Ender

    THANKS Eyrie and all others who made comments on my aircraft debate.

    I have expanded it to include the Yak, and am pondering/researching others.

  142. Farmer Gez

    Junkers powered 109s were shooting down Spitfires in 1948.
    The North American P51 was the best fighter in the ETO, the Mosquito, best multi-role.

    Not even a discussion in regard to the P51 airframe matched with a Merlin engine.
    They outperformed anything at height and range. As a bomber escort they drive the war deep into Germany.
    They were so superior that the USAF fighter arm was almost entirely made up of Mustangs.

  143. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Friedeggburger’s chance to roll him

    Josh seems to me to be one of the most ineffectual politicians we’ve currently got. He reminds me of Trump’s nickname for Jeb Bush: low energy. He may be a perfectly nice person; reasonable and patient in his pressers and interviews but unlike Trump, who of course is one in a million, he can’t project reasonableness and, simultaneously, presence.

    As MickGC noted in regard to Trump up thread, Trump’s disposition and response seems always to be even tempered. And Trump himself has previously noted that his even temper is one of his best personality traits. But it’s balanced with that undeniable presence so that everyone understands that he’s no pushover.

    So Josh can’t be the man; in fact because of his earnestness he’d be even worse than the current great leader.

  144. Louis

    It looks like all the States are banning gun sales and new licences. Why? Why would they do that considering how slow and thorough our licence system is.

    At the very least, why impose the ban outside of the major cities?

  145. Cardimona

    Struth, Howard, MV, Tailgunner, and any Cats wondering what to do about Anzac Day; is it too soon to send this out?

    The Editor

    Anzac Day cancelled? Stand in your driveway? No. Do not display such cowardice in remembering our bravest generation.

    All patriotic Aussies should show their defiance of oppressive and excessive government and attend their town war memorials at dawn on Anzac Day.

    Wear a mask and stand two metres apart in sensible deference to preventing spread of a reportedly dangerous foreign disease.

    If the government attempts to stop us paying our respects to those who died for our freedoms we’ll know this is about more than just a virus.

    (88 words)

  146. Top Ender

    Tick, tick, tick…

    Pressure is growing for change at the top of Rugby Australia and Raelene Castle’s days as chief executive look numbered.

    The Australian understands the attitude of the Rugby Australia board has dramatically changed with some new faces joining earlier this week — Virgin Australia co-founder Brett Godfrey, Supercars chairman Peter Wiggs, and former Wallaby Daniel Herbert.

    It is also understood some of the state rugby bosses expressed disappointment with RA’s handling of issues on a phone hook-up of chairman last night.

    A source told The Australian the coming “48 hours” would be very telling for Castle.

    “People are amazed she has hung on this long, everyone knows it has to come to an end soon,” said one insider.

    Rugby Australia may have to pay out six months of Castle’s contract.

    Oz

  147. Mother Lode

    Junkers powered 109s were shooting down Spitfires in 1948.

    Is that year right? I mean, the war had finished.

  148. Wasn’t numbers one of the most successful kamikaze pilots of ww2?
    Flew over 30 missions.

  149. mc

    Is that year right? I mean, the war had finished.

    I am assuming Israeli 109s and Egyptian Spitfires

  150. Mother Lode

    Wear a mask and stand two metres apart in sensible deference to preventing spread of a reportedly dangerous foreign disease.

    Politicians consider cramming people into voting booths for them as vastly more important than showing gratitude to the war dead.

  151. Chris

    Try that against a crowd of angry muz zos.

    If its a legal order and the situation demands, OK. Its a drill for civilian demos that LOOK like getting out of hand in aggression against a defended location.

    A crowd of angry Australians on our own turf, they would have to be marching in revolution to Castle Hill, or refusing to pay their gold license fees at Eureka.
    Troops were deployed with bayonets fixed over some actions in previous generations. The soldier settlers protest ride to the city, maybe about 1930, is one example. I think the anti-Italian riots on the Goldfields provide another C20th example though I think that was Police paraded with rifles and bayonets, not soldiers.

  152. mem

    By removing all expenditure directed towards global nonsense we solve both the problems of global warming/cooling/whatever and the financial problems associated with ‘going over the top’ to ‘save’ our economy.
    You obviously missed this from 2nd April:
    Joint media release with the Hon Barnaby Joyce MP, Member for New England

    Pumped hydro energy storage in the New England Renewable Energy Zone could be a reality thanks to support from the Liberal National Government.

    On behalf of the Liberal National Government, the Australian Renewable Energy Agency (ARENA) is providing $951,000 to Oven Mountain Pumped Storage Pty Ltd in partnership with Alinta Energy to undertake a study on pumped hydro energy storage (PHES) at Oven Mountain, near Armidale and Kempsey in Northern New South Wales.

    The $2.2 million study will determine how the proposed 600 MW / 7,200 MWh pumped hydro facility at Oven Mountain could support system strength in Queensland and northern New South Wales by storing and enabling renewable energy generation.

    The study will examine if the proposed PHES project would unlock further energy investment in the New England region. If proven feasible, it is estimated the project would generate approximately 600-1,000 construction jobs and 30 ongoing jobs once the plant is completed and commissioned.

    https://www.minister.industry.gov.au/ministers/taylor/media-releases/new-study-new-england-renewable-energy-zone

  153. I see numbers is still spruiking for the Cuban dictatorship even through (Isic) it has been shown to him, again and again that alleged Cuban longevity is faked by reclassification of early neonatal deaths and pressured abortion.

    Being “shown over and over again” on Catallaxy has about as much credibility as your average Grimm fairy tale.
    Cuban health statistics, on the whole, are no more nor less reliable than most in Latin America.

    And Cuba does indeed send doctors offshore to assist in times of crisis.
    They’ve been doing it for decades.
    Name any other comparable South American country that has the resources to do that.

  154. Mother Lode

    Wasn’t numbers one of the most successful kamikaze pilots of ww2?
    Flew over 30 missions.

    The terror that struck into the hearts of the enemy when they heard that steady droning noise overhead: Nam-nam-nam-nam-nam-nam…”

  155. rickw

    It looks like all the States are banning gun sales and new licences. Why? Why would they do that considering how slow and thorough our licence system is.

    At the very least, why impose the ban outside of the major cities?

    I would love to see them explain this without resorting to a spike in sales being a bad thing in itself. A larger than normal number of people following legal processes is bad?

    Exactly what are the concerned about? If the concern is average folks shooting cops in full jackboot mode the please say it!

  156. Zatara

    It looks like all the States are banning gun sales and new licences. Why? Why would they do that considering how slow and thorough our licence system is.

    Because they can?

  157. calli

    Thanks for that map, bern.

    It’s gone from one case to 21 in less than a week here. In lockdown. Which means there are lots more asymptomatic people mooching around the shops.

    We are basically a closed system here, one road in, one out. Rumour has it that the first case was off the Princess and she went to the hairdressers. Great.

  158. feelthebern

    A Kraut off the boat has just died in Perth.
    Public servants high fiving.
    We got another one.

  159. twostix

    Yet the AMA activists are running around, flapping their arms, screaming “soooo stressful”.

    They’re going to be a little more stressed if they go ahead and try and imprison us for six months

  160. feelthebern

    Public servants around the country ring a bell every time another import keels over from coronavirus.
    Like real estate agents celebrating a sale.

  161. Rex Mango

    Eyrie, the RAAF currenlty operates the Pilatus PC9, which is a direct descendant of the BF109.

  162. Bar Beach Swimmer

    And when I think about ‘earnestness’ I’m reminded of that old adage:

    The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

    While most people on this site are anti-globalists, perhaps we could make an exception, but only if we outsourced the job of running Australia to The Donald.

    Perhaps if we offered him a fixed term contract – say 3 years, which would fit nicely with our electoral cycle with a contract extension – we might just get out of this mess. And with that three year term we could stand down and/or sack all the current crop. Gee, he would only need two maybe three offsiders to assist him. We’d save heaps.

    Not sure what we could pay him, given that we’re on the way to ruin. Maybe he’d see it as a gift to a grateful ally or more likely as a sideshow that he could do in his spare time.

    MV, there’s your strategy right there for getting rid of the uniparty.

  163. Chris

    Pilatus PC9, which is a direct descendant of the BF109.

    Really? Wow. I ask my wife for one of these for Christmas at regular intervals but she never gets one for me. I had thought it the nearest we could get to a Spit in a modern production aircraft.

  164. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Calli, overall, only 75% of cases are traceable to known events, like a cruise ship or another traveller etc or a known cluster. That leaves 25% of cases coming from contact ‘in the community’. That’s the big bottom of the unknown iceberg. The lockdown should help to diminish that. We’ll know in 14 days approx.

    Morrison should start to give a ‘return to work’ date and conditions.

  165. Rex Mango

    TE, there was an Israeli squadron in 1948 that flew Spitfires, BF109 & Mustangs. Pilots were all WW2 vets & there was a great website about it. Think it was 26Sqn, or something. Pilots all said the Mustang was most comfortable, but Spitfire their favourite to fly.

  166. Dr Faustus

    The $2.2 million study will determine how the proposed 600 MW / 7,200 MWh pumped hydro facility at Oven Mountain could support system strength in Queensland and northern New South Wales by storing and enabling renewable energy generation.

    Until fairly recently, system support services (aka ancillary services) were provided by the generators for free, or nearly free. Now, with the build out of unreliable, asynchronous, non-dispatchable generation, depending on how failed the renewable ‘fleet’ is at any particular time, customers are charged $60+/ MWh – in addition to the cost of sent out power.

    A yummy 18% – 20% IRR project.
    We’re all in this together.

  167. cohenite

    It looks like all the States are banning gun sales and new licences. Why? Why would they do that considering how slow and thorough our licence system is.
    At the very least, why impose the ban outside of the major cities?
    I would love to see them explain this without resorting to a spike in sales being a bad thing in itself. A larger than normal number of people following legal processes is bad?
    Exactly what are the concerned about? If the concern is average folks shooting cops in full jackboot mode the please say it!

    Correct. This shows what’s on the minds of our fucking leaders; and it isn’t our welfare.

  168. Dr Faustus

    ScoMo telling us that we’re entering a New Phase.

    Sounding suspiciously like claiming a result – we need to keep the pressure on.
    On a sustainable basis.

  169. Cardimona

    chaamjamal
    #3390750, posted on April 3, 2020 at 12:37 pm

    Hello Cardimona: Your insight now supported by the crash of the carbon credits market.

    Chaamjamal, love your work, mate; I’ve visited your site quite a few times over the years.
    Do you have a link that shows the carbon market trend over the last few years?

  170. cohenite

    The $2.2 million study will determine how the proposed 600 MW / 7,200 MWh pumped hydro facility at Oven Mountain could support system strength in Queensland and northern New South Wales by storing and enabling renewable energy generation.

    It’s a fucking battery. Batteries only store power and if the power source can’t supply even basic needs how the hell can it provide extra power to store power for later on.

    The biggest pumped hydro is at Tumut and it has never been used. Someone did the numbers.

    BJ needs to give himself an uppercut.

  171. Rex Mango

    Yes, carbon market link please, so can send to warmies.

  172. rickw

    Not even a discussion in regard to the P51 airframe matched with a Merlin engine.
    They outperformed anything at height and range. As a bomber escort they drive the war deep into Germany.
    They were so superior that the USAF fighter arm was almost entirely made up of Mustangs.

    North American Aviation had been asked by the British Purchasing commission about the feasibility of building P-40’s under license. NAA said that they would prefer to build their own design, in 260 days a completely non-diverse group of men and women took the project from being a hand sketch to a flying prototype. The key to the airframes success was that it employed the Davis laminar flow wing, basically a thicker wing with equivalent drag to much thinner wings (thickest section was closer to the trailing edge than had been the previous practice). This gave the P-51 huge internal fuel capacity without a significant penalty.

    The aircraft was originally fitted with an Allison V-12 of similar capacity and horsepower to the RR Merlin V-12. However due to the design of the supercharger, the A V-12’s available horsepower dropped away rapidly with altitude. As a consequence the P-51 was initially consigned to ground attack roles and flew initially under the designation of A-21.

    Fitting the Merlin to the P-51 brought together one of the best airframe / engine / supercharger combinations of WWII. With drop tanks, the USAF had a fighter that could go all the way to Berlin, mix it up with the best of the German fighters and then come all the way back.

    NAA quality was also absolutely first rate along with a design built for rapid production from the outset. Packhard did exactly the same for Merlin production, introducing the “novel” concept of machining parts to require size, rather than the British approach of having parts hand scraped and fitted together by skilled men in dust coats. The result was high quality equipment in vast numbers.

    The USAF also established a rapid feedback loop from the front line back to NAA. Chuck Yeager had an everything dead situation on a brand new P-51, diving though flak with everything dead accompanied by his wingman they ran through the startup sequence and got the aircraft going again. Chuck had bumped a switch with his knee and caused a shutdown. Within weeks an improved switch cover was on new production aircraft and retrofit kits were being issued out.

  173. twostix

    At the end of WW2, or what we now regard as the end – parts of the vast, powerful military establishment that had been handed control of many of the levers of power in the west didn’t want it to end.

    They wanted to continue on to Russia.
    They had excellent reasons: if we don’t push on, they said, we’re condemning millions of eastern europeans to suffer and die under Soviet rule, a century of death and famine, etc, etc.

    So too is the case here. Our elected governments are going to have to stand up to the vast technocratic “public health policy” apparatus at some point and draw a line in the sand.

    Because as theses self-styled generals of public health are saying loud and clear, under their rule, we aren’t stopping until we get to Russia – I.e zero deaths from this or any other sickness that arrives on our doorstep. Meaning they fully expect to wage this “war” and place us under these conditions forever.

  174. Tel

    Is “cumulative cases” the most deceptive statistic in history?

    Yes, unless you can divide them up into various levels of seriousness: no symptoms, some symptoms but no big deal, properly sick, dangerously sick.

  175. Cardimona

    You obviously missed this from 2nd April:

    Geez, mem; what a groaner…
    Thanks for the heads-up.

    BJ needs to give himself an uppercut.

    Doing that by text right now, Cohenite.

  176. Eyrie

    So I was right about the aircraft in the background being a Heinkel 2019 Uhu.

    I still hold with the Bf 109. the Spitfire took nearly 3 times the man hours to produce. Some of the German fighter aces at the end of the war didn’t think much of the P-51. Reckoned they could out turn and out climb it but quantity has a quality of its own.

    If you want a Pilatus for fun, you want one of the PC-21’s we have replaced the PC-9’s with.

  177. Top Ender

    Coronavirus: UN’s World Health Organisation missing in action
    GRAHAM PINN

    The coronavirus has shone the spotlight on the World Health Organisation. On January 10, it stated “there are no specific health measures for travellers to and from Wuhan, China”.

    Two days later, the WHO cited Chinese authorities, saying it was “reassured of the quality of the ongoing investigations and the response measures (as well as) the commitment to share information”. There was “no clear evidence of human to human transmission”.

    Yet evidence of Beijing’s suppression of vital early warnings about the outbreak quickly emerged.

    On March 11, the WHO belatedly renamed the disease a pandemic. By this time it had spread to more than 100 countries.

    In all other aspects of disease management, as the numbers of infected and dying expand, the world’s premier health body has been missing in action.

    The WHO was established in Geneva in 1948 as an off-shoot of the UN. It now has a staff of 5500. From personal experience, when working on overseas aid projects in the 1980s, I found its input to be minimal: the occasional rep would jet in first class, stay at the best hotel, have a chat and jet out again.

    Its budget last year of more than $US3.5bn of contributions shows that 40 per cent is spent on country offices, 25 per cent on regional offices and 35 per cent ($US1.7bn) on its Swiss headquarters.

    It is difficult to find the exact total spent on administration as opposed to “the sharp end”, but a figure of 50 per cent has been mooted.

    The role of the WHO was intended to be improvement of primary healthcare and access to medicine and health products. Multiple reviews have questioned its current aims and motivation.

    Increasingly, its focus has changed from disease to “a health system-orientated approach to build synergies”. It has changed from an organisation that copes with health emergencies to one preoccupied with gender equality, human rights and sustainable development. Its latest budget has increased while its allocation to polio eradication has declined.

    In 2009, the New England Journal of Medicine reported on the WHO’s response to the H1N1 swine flu pandemic. Its sole contribution was to (again belatedly) declare a pandemic.

    In the African Ebola outbreak in 2014-16, the WHO again was slow to respond. Both aid providers and a review by medical journal The Lancet perceived the organisation as overly bureaucratic, slow to act and poorly co-ordinated. Recommendations for reform have not been followed up.

    The ongoing COVID-19 outbreak has again shown the WHO to be incapable of fulfilling its role as leader of medical management of worldwide outbreaks; its contribution has been to give outdated statistics and, far too late, proclaim a pandemic.

    It has made meaningless statements such as “all countries should increase their level of preparedness and rapidly institute necessary measures”.

    The WHO has conspicuously failed to call out China for its early concealment of the epidemic, while praising it for its subsequent authoritarian control; it has perversely praised the country for its transparency.

    In January, when the WHO travel advice was ­issued, China was already engaged in a cover-up, including imprisonment of doctors who had tried to notify overseas authorities. The WHO even desig­nated the virus COVID-19 to remove any connection with its Chinese source. The refusal of the organisation, like its parent the UN, to recognise the existence of Taiwan is ­another example of political ­expediency.

    WHO director-general Tedros Ghebreyesus, appointed to the role in 2017 with Chinese backing, has a history of failure in management of several cholera outbreaks in his home country of Ethiopia; he was then health minister (2005-12) in the government run by Ethiopian People’s Revolutionary Democratic Front. It was here that he first became involved in multiple projects funded by the Chinese Communist Party.

    We should question what is being achieved by this cumbersome organisation, and whether its vast budget could and should be better spent.

    Graham Pinn is a retired consultant physician and tropical medicine specialist.

    Oz link

  178. Top Ender:
    My eyesight isn’t what it used to be so I have to wait for the ebook.
    Pity. “Lethality in War” was very good.

  179. cohenite

    I wonder whether Angus Taylor is doing this bullshit willingly:

    Scott Morrison’s green footprint spreads into regional areas
    Geoff Chambers The Australian April 3, 2020
    The Emissions Reduction Fund — a key plank of Scott Morrison’s pledge to “meet and beat” Australia’s Paris target — is ­expected to deliver more than 16 million tonnes of carbon abatement this year as the government expands its green footprint in regional areas.
    The government spent $27.6m in the 10th fund auction to purchase an additional 1.71m tonnes of carbon abatement across five states.
    Energy and Emissions Reduction Minister Angus Taylor said they had focused on green projects in regional Australia, which has been hit hard by bushfires and the COVID-19 outbreak.
    Mr Taylor said fund projects delivered 14.8m tonnes of abatement last year, which would rise over the next 12 months.
    “These auction results show that the Emissions Reduction Fund is continuing to support practical action to reduce emissions right across the economy while improving productivity and providing social, economic and environmental benefits,” Mr Taylor said. “Importantly, the ERF continues to support those in regional areas working hard to generate carbon offsets, and having a positive impact on global emissions.”
    The fund auction purchased emissions reductions in 11 projects, including forestry, soil carbon, vegetation regeneration, landfill gas and energy efficiency.
    In a move to support the timber industry, which was heavily affected by the bushfires, the fund auction backed four new plantation forestry projects in NSW, Victoria, Western Australia and South Australia.
    The fund has engaged hundreds of projects to secure Australian carbon credit units, which can be sold to the federal government and businesses to offset emissions.
    Scott Morrison boosted the fund by $2bn ahead of last year’s budget, setting it up as a key plank to deliver on his pledge to “meet and beat” Australia’s Paris target to reduce emissions by 26-28 per cent below 2005 levels by 2030.
    The federal government, which is considering measures to boost the timber industry’s involvement in the carbon market, is working with fund participants and industries to explore “new and innovative ways” to reduce emissions under the $2bn ­Climate Solutions Fund.
    Mr Taylor said despite the tough economic conditions, the volume of “abatement” purchased was “substantially higher than the previous auction”.
    Through the fund auction, sellers can choose whether to ­deliver abatement to the federal government at a contracted price, or sell some or all their ­carbon credit units elsewhere.
    In February, the Clean Energy Regulator confirmed some fund projects, limited to fewer than 15 vegetation projects issued with less than 120,000 credit units, were affected by fires.

  180. Fisky:

    Yet another doctor locked up by the CCP.
    https://nypost.com/2020/04/01/whistleblowing-coronavirus-doctor-mysteriously-vanishes/amp/

    My first thoughts on this were that some middle level functionary had taken the opportunity to get back at a doc who had caused them Loss of Face.
    But this is an outlier – while China is telling the world it has defeated the WZV, its still trying to cover up.
    So what would it be trying to cover?
    The only thing I can assume is the existence of a third variant.
    No, this isn’t over, the fat lady hasn’t sung.
    Now that the groceries are reappearing on the ‘specials’ shelves, I’m going to restock. Not with consumables like dunny paper or soap/shampoo.
    Just food and water.
    …and alcohol.

  181. Speedbox

    Top Ender
    #3390690, posted on April 3, 2020 at 11:47 am
    My book on the A-Bomb attacks is now in pre-order:

    Done. Look forward to receiving it.

  182. bespoke

    Eyrie
    #3390844, posted on April 3, 2020 at 2:02 pm
    Some of the German fighter aces at the end of the war didn’t think much of the P-51. Reckoned they could out turn and out climb it but quantity has a quality of its own.

    So like the Tanks

    What is the best should be separated into two “What the best quality” and “What was war winning”?

  183. Megan:

    I’m currently more fearful about what is being imposed on us than the virus. I am shocked to see how easily Australians have surrendered their freedom to the State. The implications of that are the most terrifying thing of all.

    + lots.

  184. Leigh Lowe

    From the Chief Grinning Idiot of VikHelf on 16th March.

    “We are reviewing this rapidly evolving situation daily and will continue to provide up-to-date information to the community,” Professor Sutton said.

    “We are all focused on doing whatever is necessary to minimise the spread of infection and keep Victorians safe.

    “For the virus to spread, extended close personal contact is most likely required. Close personal contact is at least 15 minutes face-to-face or more than two hours in the same room.

    None of the new restrictions allow for this.

  185. Louis

    Scott Morrison talking more shit TV about ‘landlords and tenants needing to come to an arrangement, and banks need to also come to the party’.

    Absolutely nothing concrete or even mildly detailed. So if you were holding out for relief as a commercial tenant, the government has basically said you are on your own…even though they caused the mess and have now for 2 weeks been telling you you will not be evicted and they will force rent relief.

  186. Louis

    Scott Morrison is going to be the Neville Chamberlain of our time. So convinced of the correctness of his solution and direction, but soooo wrong about the whole situation and the even bigger mess he just contributed to.

  187. Nelson Kidd-Players

    notafan #3390749, posted on April 3, 2020 at 12:36 pm

    Are you supposed to italicize the word sic when you are quoting someone else and pointing out their typos/spelling errors?

    Assuming you’re talking about The Cat, given we’re generally copying quotes and pasting them, I’d work on the basis that adding a sic mid-quote is superfluous and slightly pedantic. Especially in these days of quick phone-entered replies with the assistance of ‘Auto-correct’! 🤦

  188. Chris

    If you want a Pilatus for fun, you want one of the PC-21’s we have replaced the PC-9’s with.

    Oh, quite. Also for up-to-date parts availability.

    Wouldn’t that just rock?

  189. bespoke

    Assuming you’re talking about The Cat

    No. Numberwang

  190. Narwhal Tusk

    Further to Pierre Clostermann’s book, a perspective from the other side was Heinz Knoke’s “I flew for the Fuhrer”.
    The fact that they both went through it all and survived is incredible.
    The skill and/or experience of the pilot was often the decider compared with which aircraft was better.
    Interesting discussion but.

  191. Mother Lode

    It’s a fucking battery. Batteries only store power and if the power source can’t supply even basic needs how the hell can it provide extra power to store power for later on.

    You can fool the geniuses that lord over us as easily as that.

    Everyone knows that when you go to the shops and buy batteries you don’t have to charge them.

    And they are renewable because there are always more there when you go to the shop next time.

    Sheesh! Some people are so keen for a gotcha it blinds them to logic.

  192. Bruce of Newcastle

    I don’t think the Venezuelans are good at this pottering around in boats stuff.

    Venezuelan warship shoots, rams into German cruise vessel before sinking (2 Apr)

    BERLIN – A Venezuelan navy ship fired shots at a German-owned cruise ship on March 30 and rammed into the passenger vessel, leading to the sinking of the warship in the Caribbean.

    According to the statement, “While the Master was in contact with the head office, gun shots were fired and, shortly thereafter, the navy vessel approached the starboard side at speed with an angle of 135° and purposely collided with the RCGS RESOLUTE. The navy vessel continued to ram the starboard bow in an apparent attempt to turn the ship’s head towards Venezuelan territorial waters.”

    The cruise company said the RCGS RESOLUTE sustained minor damages, not affecting vessel’s seaworthiness, it occurs that the navy vessel suffered severe damages while making contact with the ice-strengthened bulbous bow of the ice-class expedition cruise vessel RCGS RESOLUTE and started to take water.”

    Was that an iceberg we just hit…?

  193. Mark from Melbourne

    Not even a discussion in regard to the P51 airframe matched with a Merlin engine.
    They outperformed anything at height and range.

    ME 262 says hello.

  194. thefrollickingmole

    Top Ender
    #3390798, posted on April 3, 2020 at 1:17 pm
    THANKS Eyrie and all others who made comments on my aircraft debate.

    May I humbly suggest a year by year comparison.
    Or even possibly high, medium and low altitude fighters (which might see a Russian aircraft sneak in)
    Serviceability, the amount of resources tied up keeping one in the air.
    And see if you can lay to rest the octane wars, where its still confusing how much German over-engineering was due to fuel problems. Ive seen good arguments it was irrelevant and others claiming that there was up to 15% performance loss from fuel alone.

    The Zero was hands down the “best” fighter in the pacific theater but had drawbacks like no radio comms and no self sealing fuel tanks.
    BF109 was pretty damn good but suffered by being a pre WW2 airframe.
    Spitfires, as mentioned took a fair bit to produce.
    P39 very good early war, crap later on.

  195. Nelson Kidd-Players

    In the case of the Wang, then just call them out where they add to the amusement value.

  196. Infidel Tiger

    A Kraut off the boat has just died in Perth.
    Public servants high fiving.
    We got another one.

    Why are we including these imported filth bots in our toll?

    Locals only.

  197. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    “For the virus to spread, extended close personal contact is most likely required. Close personal contact is at least 15 minutes face-to-face or more than two hours in the same room.

    they have absolutely no idea how contagious it is or not

  198. Narwhal Tusk

    Rambler, long time ago now but a mate dealt with Japanese in the textile business.
    Prior to a meeting with one of them I was begged not to mention that kamikaze pilot whose mission tally was 43 in my story.
    Anyway, drinks were involved so I did.
    There was much hissing.

  199. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Coronavirus: UN’s World Health Organisation missing in action

    no. no. they were heavily in action for the chinese communist party

  200. bespoke

    Indeed Nelson KP wang has stepped and that rake so many times it has made him very special.

  201. EvilElvis

    Shit, IT. Might need the other hand to count the dead in WA soon.

  202. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    ScoMo telling us that we’re entering a New Phase.

    Sounding suspiciously like claiming a result – we need to keep the pressure on.
    On a sustainable basis.

    with a diverse yet equitable outcome

  203. Bruce in WA

    I’m currently more fearful about what is being imposed on us than the virus. I am shocked to see how easily Australians have surrendered their freedom to the State. The implications of that are the most terrifying thing of all.

    + a googolplex

  204. Dr Faustus

    Sounds like the JobKeeper scheme is going to be used to hide unemployment. If you’re on it, you are “connected” to your job, so actually your job is still there and you are employed in it, and – ta-daah – so not unemployed.
    Strictly speaking.
    Sort of.

  205. Farmer Gez

    ME 262 says hello.

    A jet, be serious.
    When it’s all said and done the heavy bombers destroyed German industry and left it’s cities in ruins.
    They’re big ugly and unsexy but they were lethal beyond measure.

  206. Leigh Lowe

    Taking IT’s point about “cumulative cases”, I have managed to deduce this from various spots on the VikHelf website.
    Deducting “recovered” from cumulative cases, you get the number of outstanding “unresolved” cases, as follows:-
    28-Mar-20 … 491
    29-Mar-20 … 572
    30-Mar-20 … 569
    31-Mar-20 … 622
    01-Apr-20 … 621
    02-Apr-20 … 609
    03-Apr-20 … 604
    Yep.
    That’s right.
    Slight reduction over the last four days.
    And those numbers would have been already baked in. Nothing to do with Dickhead Dan’s fishing ban.

  207. EvilElvis

    At what point was implementing Jobkeeper after doubling the dole for Jobseeker and giving cash handouts a smart idea?

  208. Dr Faustus

    Rent relief.
    No legal basis.

    But a very strong basis in ‘We’re all in this together’.

  209. Bruce in WA

    Are you supposed to italicize the word sic when you are quoting someone else and pointing out their typos/spelling errors?

    Yes, italicised and in square brackets — [sic]

  210. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I notice on Fox News that New York authorities are now asking everyone who is out and about to wear some form of facial mask – a scarf etc – in order to stop aerosol spread, especially from the asymptomatics to others.

    That could have a useful impact on the community spread, and I don’t see why we shouldn’t ask people here to do that for two weeks in crowded areas especially. Make it voluntary, but make it a social positive to do so.

  211. Infidel Tiger

    Job Keeper is a farce.

    Barely anyone will be able to access it legitimately.

  212. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Are you supposed to italicize the word sic when you are quoting someone else and pointing out their typos/spelling errors?

    It’s not just for typing and spelling errors. It is also used when you wish to emphasise that the particular word or phrase is exactly what they did say, even if it seems to be beyond what might be expected or contextually odd.

  213. wear some form of facial mask

    bugger that.
    I shall continue with my Les Patterson imitation. The more this spreads before winter the better.

  214. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Like hyperbowl, for instance. lol

  215. Infidel Tiger

    ScoMo telling us that we’re entering a New Phase.

    Translation: All the modelling was wrong. We’ve cooked the whole economy for nothing. FUCK! Let’s act like there’s a crisis for at least 6 more months.

  216. Tintarella di Luna

    now asking everyone who is out and about to wear some form of facial mask – a scarf etc –That could have a useful impact on the community spread, and I don’t see why we shouldn’t ask people here to do that for two weeks in crowded areas especially. Make it voluntary, but make it a social positive to do so.

    I think Raelene Castle should lead the way as a community good

  217. Leigh Lowe

    Full VikHelf data …
    (Note that zero might mean “not reported”)

    01-Mar-20 – tests: 9 total cases: 9 increase: – hospital: – ICU: – Recovered: – died: 9 active cases:
    02-Mar-20 – tests: 9 total cases: – increase: – hospital: – ICU: – Recovered: – died: 9 active cases:
    03-Mar-20 – tests: 9 total cases: – increase: – hospital: – ICU: – Recovered: – died: 9 active cases:
    04-Mar-20 – tests: 10 total cases: 1 increase: – hospital: – ICU: – Recovered: – died: 10 active cases:
    05-Mar-20 – tests: 10 total cases: – increase: – hospital: – ICU: – Recovered: – died: 10 active cases:
    06-Mar-20 – tests: 10 total cases: – increase: – hospital: – ICU: – Recovered: – died: 10 active cases:
    07-Mar-20 – tests: 11 total cases: 1 increase: – hospital: – ICU: – Recovered: – died: 11 active cases:
    08-Mar-20 – tests: 12 total cases: 1 increase: – hospital: – ICU: – Recovered: – died: 12 active cases:
    09-Mar-20 – tests: 15 total cases: 3 increase: – hospital: – ICU: – Recovered: – died: 15 active cases:
    10-Mar-20 – tests: 18 total cases: 3 increase: – hospital: – ICU: – Recovered: – died: 18 active cases:
    11-Mar-20 – tests: 21 total cases: 3 increase: – hospital: – ICU: – Recovered: – died: 21 active cases:
    12-Mar-20 – tests: 27 total cases: 6 increase: – hospital: – ICU: – Recovered: – died: 27 active cases:
    13-Mar-20 – tests: 36 total cases: 9 increase: – hospital: – ICU: – Recovered: – died: 36 active cases:
    14-Mar-20 – tests: 49 total cases: 13 increase: 1 hospital: – ICU: – Recovered: – died: 49 active cases:
    15-Mar-20 – tests: 57 total cases: 8 increase: – hospital: – ICU: – Recovered: – died: 57 active cases:
    16-Mar-20 11,700 tests: 71 total cases: 14 increase: 5 hospital: – ICU: – Recovered: – died: 71 active cases:
    17-Mar-20 14,200 tests: 94 total cases: 23 increase: 7 hospital: – ICU: – Recovered: – died: 94 active cases:
    18-Mar-20 15,200 tests: 121 total cases: 27 increase: 6 hospital: – ICU: – Recovered: – died: 121 active cases:
    19-Mar-20 17,180 tests: 150 total cases: 29 increase: 7 hospital: – ICU: 28 Recovered: – died: 122 active cases:
    20-Mar-20 19,337 tests: 178 total cases: 28 increase: 6 hospital: – ICU: 39 Recovered: – died: 139 active cases:
    21-Mar-20 20,500 tests: 229 total cases: 51 increase: 5 hospital: – ICU: 51 Recovered: – died: 178 active cases:
    22-Mar-20 22,900 tests: 296 total cases: 67 increase: 6 hospital: – ICU: 70 Recovered: – died: 226 active cases:
    23-Mar-20 23,700 tests: 355 total cases: 59 increase: 6 hospital: – ICU: 97 Recovered: – died: 258 active cases:
    24-Mar-20 25,000 tests: 411 total cases: 56 increase: 12 hospital: 2 ICU: 113 Recovered: – died: 298 active cases:
    25-Mar-20 25,500 tests: 466 total cases: 55 increase: 12 hospital: 2 ICU: 128 Recovered: – died: 338 active cases:
    26-Mar-20 26,900 tests: 520 total cases: 54 increase: 14 hospital: 3 ICU: 149 Recovered: 3 died: 368 active cases:
    27-Mar-20 27,800 tests: 574 total cases: 54 increase: 22 hospital: 3 ICU: 172 Recovered: 3 died: 399 active cases:
    28-Mar-20 30,100 tests: 685 total cases: 111 increase: 21 hospital: 3 ICU: 191 Recovered: 3 died: 491 active cases:
    29-Mar-20 39,000 tests: 769 total cases: 84 increase: 26 hospital: 4 ICU: 193 Recovered: 4 died: 572 active cases:
    30-Mar-20 42,000 tests: 821 total cases: 52 increase: 29 hospital: 4 ICU: 248 Recovered: 4 died: 569 active cases:
    31-Mar-20 45,000 tests: 917 total cases: 96 increase: 29 hospital: 4 ICU: 291 Recovered: 4 died: 622 active cases:
    01-Apr-20 47,000 tests: 968 total cases: 51 increase: 32 hospital: 6 ICU: 343 Recovered: 4 died: 621 active cases:
    02-Apr-20 49,000 tests: 1,036 total cases: 68 increase: 30 hospital: 6 ICU: 422 Recovered: 5 died: 609 active cases:
    03-Apr-20 51,000 tests: 1,085 total cases: 49 increase: 37 hospital: 7 ICU: 476 Recovered: 5 died: 604 active cases:

  218. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Politician pay cut not helpful: Morrison

    .

    I beg to differ

  219. Like “inedible stain on the history …”, for instance. ror

  220. Zatara

    What is the best should be separated into two “What the best quality” and “What was war winning”?

    Exactly, it’s much too generic a question and lacks criteria. Best in what role? Which theater? Ranked by kills? Performance? Best carrier fighter Pacific, best land based fighter Europe/Africa, best night fighter Pacific, best single engine, best multi-engine. etc.?

    For example on the US side the F-6F was the best fighter in the Pacific based on number of kills against the Japanese, but the P-51 was best US fighter in Europe based on kills.

    Did the F-6F operate in Europe? Yes, but in limited numbers.
    Did the P-51 operate in the Pacific? Yes, but after the Japanese fighter force had been well depleted.

    So is one of them “best”? As with the original question, pull up a chair, open a beer and let the debate begin.

  221. Nelson Kidd-Players

    Politician pay cut not helpful: Morrison

    Make a tremendous difference to morale…

  222. twostix

    Sounding suspiciously like claiming a result – we need to keep the pressure on.
    On a sustainable basis.

    At the start of last week I wrote that by this week they’ll quietly begin changing the rules then start claiming victory. People’s savings are starting to dwindle, and people are getting cranky and housebound. They’re starting to get annoyed and bored with this show.

    However in a different way they are legitimately victorious. They have won an flawless, historic and epic victory for their New Class technocractic ideals against the now-in-tatters old Aussie anglo ideals and customs.

    They can afford to relent now and release the population from house arrest and enjoy their new post-revolution era for awhile.

  223. Boambee John

    even through (Isic) it (sic)

  224. Fisky

    I can see the International Student lobby is demanding WELFARE for all foreign students in Australia. I thought these people were supposed to have enough money saved to meet their living costs before they signed up for a course???

    We see once again, that the real motivation behind Big Australia is not the wellbeing of the Australian people, but a desire to re-engineer the country, to replace it if you will, turning it into a borderless colony of the UN/China. Even if it means subsidising the replacement battalions to move here.

  225. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    The more this spreads before winter the better.

    The herd-immunity thesis. It has some value. But we need to buy time for that. And protect the elderly. It will certainly reach our shores again once travel starts up once more unless we do some big-time ongoing automatic quarantine for all entrants or unless there is a working vaccine or treatments.

    I’d prefer trying to knock it out altogether to RO<1 in Australia for a first try.
    Australia's numbers are low enough for that to be an achievable goal.
    Our locational spread is also in our favour. And we've halted travel.

    Our winter doesn't really kick in until half-way through May.

    Vaccinate heavily for flu strains as well.

  226. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    For example on the US side the F-6F was the best fighter in the Pacific based on number of kills against the Japanese,

    Don’t have a reference, but an F-6F pilot landed on a carrier, having set a record for the number of Japanese aircraft shot down, in a single mission – from memory, seven. He held the record for twenty minutes, before another pilot landed, having shot down nine enemy aircraft….

  227. Our locational spread is also in our favour

    ? most of the population live in Synny and Dannograd.

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