Friday Forum: April 3, 2020

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  1. johanna

    Plus, Quilton were giving away one million rolls.

    If you are over 60 you should be able to access via a charity.

    If you don’t want them as charity, make a donation.

    What ‘charity’, notafan? Please explain.

    Your statement is meaningless.

  2. Tel

    Scomoron claims his actions have halved the hospital caseload.

    Difficult to prove him wrong isn’t it?

    That said, our hospitals could easily handle twice the caseload … our current number of cases is quite low.

    On the other hand, our hospitals could do with a lot more basic equipment like masks and hand sanitizer. Pity none of the public servants have anything to say about that. It’s a state issue of course, but how much do they spend on equality crap while they cannot cover simple stuff?

  3. Bruce in WA

    The Chinese are travelling in numbers to every nation on earth.

    Peaceful little Lembongan Island off Bali was, according to the locals, having 5 000 Chinese “visitors” a day, all on prepaid day trips (no money for the locals), who took their food with them, and would go into local warungs and demand boiling water for their dried noodles — for free, of course.

  4. For Pell case followers.

    The ABC’s Revelation is clearly in contempt of court. It would be argued of course that no High Court judge would be prejudiced against Pell. (Although the damage to this court might arise from members of the public thinking the court was influenced if their holding is adverse to Pell.)

    But the program might well prejudice a jury that decided on Pell’s guilt if the HC was to order a new trial. Taking this into account, if the HC is aware of the program, they might be more inclined to acquit than order a retrial. If so, the Revelation program might be seen as beneficial to Pell. (If there is an order of a retrial, it might be that the trial judge could order a permanent stay on the basis of prejudicial publicity by the ABC.)

  5. Ellie

    So – the world is about to end – who would you choose to share a meal with?

    Me? Mr Trump. I would like to dissect his big beautiful brain.

    Him, and also my science teacher.

  6. rickw

    Australia, and most of the free world is in lockdown. Policed and enforced

    Who’s going hardest? The CCP’s puppet on Spring Street. The Belt and Road Boy with a heavily armed (1000 assault rifles) and incredibly corrupt and dumb police force at his disposal.

  7. mh

    I’m warming to ScoMo.

    Morrison currently $151 Time Magazine Person of the Year 2020

  8. twostix

    Andrews: Plan for stage four restrictions
    Mr Andrews said he believed stage four restrictions would be introduced but did not detail what that would entail.

    “I think there will be a stage four, when I’m in a position and when I need to make those announcements I will,” he said.

    “I’ve tried to be very upfront about these different stages and the journey that we’re on,” he said.

    “If I’m planning for it then VIctorians have a right to know and I am looking at a number of different steps and further measures that I believe will save lives.

    “That’s the fundamental responsibility and obligation that I have. That’s not for today.”

    Dan Andrews is driving this entire country from the backseat at the moment.

    Like I said: In the weird “National Cabinet” – which ever Premier has the most extreme policy andis the most belligerent gets to set the national agenda. Morrison – simply a figure head – has to announce that state’s policy as his own in order to present the “united” front that the media demands from him.

    Andrews has him, and all of us, hostage.

    Which is kind of hilarious.

  9. Atoms for Peace

    If Victoristan goes level 4, can Dan the man please put a tie on? I’d even go with a red bandana.

  10. mh

    If China does not act on its animal ‘wet’ markets then travel bans on the Ch inks must follow around the world.

    2020 must be the year Chinese international travel ends.

  11. notafan

    Oh for goodness sake Johanna do you always have to be so bloodyminded?

    Vinnies, Salvos, the usual suspects.

  12. Nick

    Maybe one day we will hear one of her relatives was a garbo, doubt it though.

    I think she’d say yes. Greta Garbo.

  13. calli

    Something amusing for Golfing Cats. The course has re-opened and the Pro has been inundated with questions about carts.

    His email to members:

    1. Does that mean that if myself and my wife are playing golf together, one of us can drive the cart to the proshop and the other one has to drive their car? YES! that’s exactly what it means.
    2. Can i put a long plank of wood on the front seat and have my wife sit 1.5 metres away from me outside the cart? Nice idea, but it would make the cart unstable. Also, if she is heavier than you it wouldn’t work. NO!
    3. Can i tow a trailer or sled with my wife in it behind me? You could, but another law is that all loads must be covered, so your wife would have to have a tarp over her head the whole time you were driving. NO!
    4. Can i tow my wife around on roller blades or a skate board? You could, but when you give her a whip around the corner she will probably hit a tree, leaving all manner of debris for the greens staff to clean up. NO!
    5. Can i put a chair on top of my cart and have my wife sit up there? 1.5 metres away of course? Not really, it would change the centre of gravity of the cart and it would tip over, leaving yet more debris for greens staff to deal with. NO!

    Bother. I was picturing lots of Granny Clampets in their chairs atop the carts haring around.

  14. twostix

    I didn’t think much of the National Cabinet and the questions Sinc brought up about its legality and constitutionality – like most simply thinking it just yet another public servant talk shop that doesn’t matter.

    But we’re seeing that it does matter. It has caused a profound change in how the country is operated – it hides responsibility, blurs the levels of government and creates mass confusion as to which level of government can and is doing what.

    Here’s a simple thought experiment: If the heads of government informally all agreed to give Daniel Andrews the power to run the country would they be allowed to do that?

    Because that’s what the National Cabinet has done.

  15. Atoms for Peace

    If we have a national strategy based around CO2 reductions, how hard to bring in a plan to reduce purchasing Chinese products. ? I’m making it my mission to make do or spend a few extra on just about any other countries products. Maybe it’s North Koreas time to shine. They are less shite than the CCP ponzi scheme.

  16. Nelson Kidd-Players

    Farmer Gez #3391090, posted on April 3, 2020 at 4:54 pm

    Johanna, I know a county hopping, bootlegging woman who has just run some contraband TP from Woolies in Bendigo through the trooper’s roadblocks and back to the old farmhouse.
    My kids call her mum.

    Does her car feature a Dixie horn and a Confederate flag on the roof?

  17. Zatara

    There are large supply movements in America towards the border and coast of munitions and personnel

    No, there aren’t.

    And they have activated the entire National Guard

    No, they haven’t. They have mostly activated Guard and Reserve medical units (such as the USNS Comfort and Mercy hospital ships) and offered voluntary temporary recall to retired medical personnel to back up the civilian medical capabilities for the duration of the virus emergency.

    Does anyone else consider this odd:

    I might, if any of it was true.

  18. A Lurker

    It smacks like the world is preparing for something on a large scale and C19 just doesn’t fit

    Triffids?

  19. Brettw:

    “At the moment there are two classes of Australian. Those whose lives are devastated by losing their job and their business, and public servants who have been completely untouched by the crisis.”

    … and higher echelon public servants who have been completely untouched by the crisis, and are utterly unaware of what it’s doing to the tax base and the rest of Australia.”
    You’re right, Brettw – the nation is rapidly polarising into two groups – and the public servants haven’t a clue as to how they are being seen by the working & private trader class.

  20. Caveman

    Stage 4

    I’ve had a theory that the stages are based on the Police Academy movies.

    Stage 4 is Citzens on Patrol

    The misfit Police Academy graduates now are assigned to train a group of civilian volunteers to fight crime once again plaguing the streets.

  21. egg_

    Who will be the first of the National Cabinet Premiers to break ranks?

  22. twostix

    If the heads of governments all agreed together to put all of the political decisions that have to be made in the country into the hands of an unelected panel of academics and they themselves would just be mouthpieces for the panel, would they be allowed to do that?

    The constitution doesn’t stop it.

    Yet it would be against the very core of the Australian democracy and tradition.

    Tradition matters. Nearly everything we have runs on tradition.

    The “National Cabinet” is against our traditions and the spirit of accountability and the absolute expectation we have elected leaders being visible and individually transparent in their own sphere of influence.

    It needs to be dismantled.

  23. egg_

    Stage 4

    Pollies get a cream pie in the face?

  24. rickw

    I didn’t think much of the National Cabinet and the questions Sinc brought up about its legality and constitutionality – like most simply thinking it just yet another public servant talk shop that doesn’t matter.

    But we’re seeing that it does matter. It has caused a profound change in how the country is operated – it hides responsibility, blurs the levels of government and creates mass confusion as to which level of government can and is doing what.

    The prototype for this was the work on the 1996 National Firearms Agreement. I’m sure that both State Governments and Federal Government noted that no layer was ever effectively electorally paid back for the bastardry, because of the blurring of the levels of government.

  25. Infidel Tiger

    Stage 4 is Citzens on Patrol

    Police Academy 4 is one of the great movies.

    Leslie Easterbrook had/has sensational big naturals.

  26. mh

    What has even happened today?

    Are we still 100 percent SNAFU?

  27. Helen

    That would be a very interesting conversation Helen!

    not the ouija board, TE, to the son! lols

  28. calli

    Triffids?

    I was thinking rampant totalitarianism.

    But I’ll settle for triffids.

    I have many…many litres of Glypho 360 in the garage.

  29. Calli:

    I’m off tomorrow to pick up pavers, quickset and some seedlings. An maybe an overpriced frangipani (because I can’t get to the wholesaler).

    I have several different colours/fragrances in the back yard.
    Do you have a specific colour you’re after?

  30. egg_

    It smacks like the world is preparing for something on a large scale and C19 just doesn’t fit

    Triffids?

    The invasion of Dan of the walking dead.

  31. Oh come on

    More wishful thinking over at the ABC Washington DC bureau:

    Trump’s coronavirus ambiguity follows an old strategy. This time Americans might reject the consequences

    This time – maybe this time!

  32. twostix

    Because of the secretive and increasingly corrupt National Cabinet millions of Australians (rightly) think that Scott Morrison has the power to order schools to close down and order you not to leave your house.

    This is against reality. He’s merely acting as a mouthpiece for the state premiers – the state premiers have a duty and responsibilty to the individuals in their state to clearly outline their thoughts and ideas on any matter.

    The National Cabinet denies us our public debate and accountability of individual leaders.

  33. rickw

    Stage 4

    I’ve had a theory that the stages are based on the Police Academy movies.

    Quite possible! Dickhead Dan probably has some thought that anything needs 4 stages if it’s really serious, but he can’t quite remember where the idea comes from…

  34. Zatara:

    He was fired mostly because he leaked a copy of that memo to the left-wing press in San Francisco, his home town, essentially broadcasting to the world a major weakness in US defenses in the Pacific during a time of crisis involving China.

    I hope the idiot was cashiered for such a stupid and elementary breach of OpSec.

  35. twostix

    Stage 4 is being forced to drink the Koolaid when it arrives.

  36. C.L.

    Way Way out on a limb but what do you think he would say if they asked him to stay in until judgment?

    Well, I don’t think they would ask him but, let’s say they did – on the understanding that they wanted the pubic to hear their reasoning – I can see Pell maybe agreeing to it. Nothing he has done from the start of all this has smacked of even the slightest impatience.

  37. egg_

    It looks like paper towels are the new TP in my local Colesworth, going by the amount of the stuff on the TP shelves.

  38. ProfessorvFred Lenin

    A national cabinet ?what a good idea
    Petrograd 1917 a speech by the moderate leader,”gentlemen ,in the name of freedom we must form a National Cabinet and include the Bolshevik minority party I am sure messrs Lenin and Trotsky are reasonable men who desire democracy” .
    Berlin 1934 , von Hindenburg ,”it is in the interest of stability and ceasing of friction and civil unrest we form a National Cabinet including the National Socialists ,herr Hitler assures me of his party’s dedication to democracy,peace and freedom”.
    Those plans worked out well didn’t they ?

  39. mh

    Stage 4

    Stay Off The Roads!

  40. MatrixTransform

    Triffids?

    Body Snatchers

  41. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    very interesting story, worth a read if you are into that sort of thing
    Does relativity lie at the source of quantum exoticism?

  42. twostix

    Can my partner or child visit?

    Initially, it was thought the answer was no.

    However, the Health Minister’s office has told the ABC if a partner routinely stayed several nights a weekend then that could continue as it was a normal living arrangement.

    Ms Palaszczuk went further: “If your son wants to bring their girlfriend over and you know their girlfriend, that’s fine.”

    She said the point was not to “invite strangers into your home” and to “shrink your world” and limit “extra contact” to combat the coronavirus outbreak.

    “If then that girlfriend wants to bring another friend that you don’t know, that’s a stranger to your house,” the Premier said.

    It’s not hyperbole to say that these people are literally making up the rules as they go along – there are no actual laws restraining them right now. Words come out of the premiers mouth and that is immediately “the law” – and the police will immediately take action based on those utterances.

    The definition of a Police State.

    Whether you think it’s necessary or not, it is what it is.

  43. Perth Trader

    Kenworth have closed the Bayswater truck plant until management can find a way to build a truck without workers contravening the 1.5 meter social distancing laws.

  44. cohenite

    Stop paying pollies and bureaucrats and this bullshit will be over in a week.

  45. twostix

    QLD does seem to be doing its best to implement the “lockdown” without actually implementing the “lockdown”.

    Are QLD and NSW against Victoria’s insane version of it? Is Dan Andrews and his bully boy mate McGowen bullying and marginalising the lady permiers in the National Cabinet meetings?

    Hmmmmmm.

  46. Keith Forwheels

    Docket62
    #3391212, posted on April 3, 2020 at 6:20 pm

    Does anyone else consider this odd:

    Australia, and most of the free world is in lockdown. Policed and enforced
    There are large supply movements in America towards the border and coast of munitions and personnel
    And they have activated the entire National Guard
    Australia and America are clearing hospitals, expanding ICU’s at a great rate and erecting morgues

    It smacks like the world is preparing for something on a large scale and C19 just doesn’t fit

    Yes, feels like something more rumbling away under the surface.

  47. notafan

    Tell us more about these US troop movements.

    I thought the danger was coming from under the ground, which is why 500 million US troops had been wargaming in tunnels.

    Is there a word for the opposite of aliens?

  48. notafan

    Could explain the rumblings under the surface.

  49. bespoke

    Could explain the rumblings under the surface.

    Not mine 😁

  50. A reader

    Police commisar in NSW says going to Ikea isn’t essential and that people should be prevented. First rule of the government’s regulations says it isn’t illegal to get household essentials. He is out of control

  51. Zatara

    Winston

    I hope the idiot was cashiered for such a stupid and elementary breach of OpSec.

    Indeed, and he had to know he was pissing away his career doing it.

    Interestingly, he is of just the right age and seniority to have sold his professional soul to the Obama progressive movement as a junior field grade officer. He could be the epitome of a remain-behind kamikaze and perhaps he thought it worth it in the quest to heap more shit on Trump during a crisis.

    A true deep stater. I doubt he’ll starve on a street corner.

  52. Docket62

    I could almost safely Guarantee you the fight back will start here.

    And in Melbourne. 25th April Anzac Day. Civil disobedience. Be at the shrine ‘exercising’ or be square

  53. Keith Forwheels

    notafan
    #3391302, posted on April 3, 2020 at 7:25 pm

    Could explain the rumblings under the surface.

    Sorry Nota, I have taken stock, and on reflection everything is off to a pretty normal start to the year. Let’s hope it stays just like this through to Christmas 🤣

  54. Keith Forwheels

    Docket62
    #3391307, posted on April 3, 2020 at 7:30 pm

    TG, is that you under the red hat?? Sorry can’t make it, I’m interstate, and revelling in the normality of the situation.

  55. Bruce of Newcastle

    The bureaucracy does seem to like lurid models. The coronavirus models seem to be as excitable as the climate change ones.

    General news from the US and elsewhere that hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin are working. If rolled out here that combo would knock the stuffing out of the assumptions in the models.

  56. Keith Forwheels

    notafan
    #3391310, posted on April 3, 2020 at 7:33 pm

    what William said

    William was an optimist! 😁

  57. johanna

    Speaking of people who are not joining in the sacrifice, are any of the academics who are so fond of telling us what to do losing their jobs? How about teachers in government schools?

    Never has the demarcation between the powerful and the powerless been more stark.

    The local coffee shop owner, restauranteur, hairdresser, and a whole bunch of other people who have risked their own money – phfft! They are nothing. They need to sacrifice for the common good.

    The public sector (including the education aristos), Colesworths and a few other select entities are coining it like never before. Just wait till the beneficiaries swoop on the property market, which is about to fall into a chasm as desperate people sell up.

    These are the people who wail about the wickedness of uneven income and wealth distribution the loudest.

    Just watch them cash in as the little people go broke, while still deploring capitalism in public.

    This is potentially a cataclysmic event for the economy, as wealth is redistributed from the private sector to the public sector’s beneficiaries and big business. University professors will add properties formerly owned by small business owners to their portfolios at bargain prices. Small retailers in all segments will be crushed. People with mortgages will be forced to sell through no fault of their own, in a falling market.

    ScoMo is being led by the lowest common denominator with his ‘national cabinet’ – whoever is rushing towards the cliff fastest wins.

    Are no no adults in the room with the guts to tell the children that the red cordial is being cut off now, that everything is frozen and we are winding back asap, that plunging the entire country into, not just a recession, but a Depression, is criminally irresponsible?

  58. bespoke

    Was that you!!!!

    No dear it was those 500 million US troops tunnelling underground.

  59. Atoms for Peace

    So, when does Australia save a few quid and walk away from WHO? Little steps and no one other than the usual rabid chihuahuas from the left will squawk……

  60. Davey Boy

    SMH: NSW Health allowed Ruby Princess guests to disembark, despite warnings from ship’s senior physician
    By Matt Bungard
    NSW Health told the Ruby Princess’ senior physician that testing was not required before letting passengers disembark, an email chain has revealed.

    Nine News reported on Friday that NSW Health was informed that two travellers onboard had upper respiratory tract infections and needed an ambulance after being administered 15 swab tests and testing negative for influenza.

    Coronavirus: Ruby Princess responsible for 10 per cent of Australia’s infections
    The Ruby Princess cruise ship fiasco now makes up more than 10 percent of coronavirus infections around Australia.

    “The NSW Health expert panel has assessed the Ruby Princess as NOT requiring onboard health assessment in Sydney. We would, however, ask you to send the 15 samples to our lab for COVID testing,” a leaked email from the department read.

    The ship was then told it was free to disembark.

    “The Ruby Princess was assessed as low risk, based on the level of illness on board, the negative COVID-19 tests done on passengers while in New Zealand, and the positive influenza tests done on a large proportion of the passengers with influenza-like illness,” a NSW Health statement said in response to the story. “The risk assessment process recognised that there is no ‘no risk’ setting for COVID-19 but balanced the level of risk against the benefit of removing passengers from a cruise ship on which the virus could be circulating.”

  61. Geriatric Mayfly

    I imagine these Bunnings raiders are buying turnips, cabbages and broad beans. Most unobjectionable vegie plants are now entering either death or decline.

  62. Peter the old fossil

    And in Melbourne. 25th April Anzac Day. Civil disobedience. Be at the shrine ‘exercising’ or be square

    Do that, and not only will your efforts be pointless, you’ll be destroying any chance of ever mobilising any kind of support for any meaningful protest in the future.

  63. Struth:

    I’ve just posted my little rant on Facebook, regarding the QLD government, please feel free to do the same, copy and paste.
    It’s getting lots of likes and shares.

    Have you got a link as to where you’ve posted it?
    …prolly help.

  64. 1735099

    Whether you think it’s necessary or not, it is what it is.

    What it is is common sense.
    It has to be explained to those who are thick.
    It has to be monitored because a few don’t give a stuff about others.
    Neither explaining and monitoring would be necessary in an ideal world.
    A glance at this site reveals the distribution of stupidity and selfishness.

  65. The Beer Whisperer

    Ms Palaszczuk went further: “If your son wants to bring their girlfriend over and you know their girlfriend, that’s fine.”

    Why the fuck is this stupid bint micromanaging??

    Does she have any idea how much of a moron she appears, judging individual circumstances? Nanny statism at its worst.

    What, is she going to start a Dear Abbie correspondence line, to make up rules as she goes along? The change if governance is profound, and is the worst precedent in our country’s history.

  66. Stanley

    Jakarta (ANTARA) – Chinese President Xi Jinping, during a telephonic conversation with his Indonesian counterpart President Joko Widodo (Jokowi) on Thursday (April 2), pledged to assist Indonesia in containing the COVID-19 epidemic.

    Xi expressed concern over the spread of the novel coronavirus in the rest of the world, including Indonesia.

    On behalf of the Chinese government and people, Xi sympathized with the Indonesian people.

    The Chinese people have been through the most critical phase only after putting up a tough fight, Xi remarked, adding that China had identified the difficulties faced by Indonesia and offered its assistance to help handle them.

    Xi strongly believed that Indonesia, under the leadership of President Jokowi, will be able to win the battle against the deadly virus outbreak.

    To face the COVID-19 pandemic, China and Indonesia have helped one another as a manifestation of their deep friendship, according to the secretary general of the Communist Party of China (CPC).

    In observance of seven decades of diplomatic ties between China and Indonesia, Xi echoed China’s intent to continue to forge close cooperation with Indonesia in realizing the Belt and Road Initiative and deepening strategic partnership between both nations.

    Xi further drew attention to the criticality of strong synergy among members of the international community to overcome the epidemic that has emerged as an enemy to mankind.

    The chief of China’s Central Military Commission (CMC) also called on Indonesia to work more closely with China to encourage the Group of Twenty (G20) and the international community to play their role in overcoming the global economic crisis.

    In the meantime, Jokowi affirmed that under Xi’s leadership, the Chinese people had been through the crucial phase in the fight against the outbreak, and to this end, the world can take a cue from China.

    Jokowi expressed gratitude to China for its assistance and support extended to Indonesia to contain the outbreak.

    Chinese assistance is immensely important for Indonesia, some Chinese official media stated while quoting the statement by the Indonesian president.

    Watch as the CCP makes the most of the West’s inward looking focus. Bat-f*^kers

  67. Rockdoctor

    NSW Health told the Ruby Princess’ senior physician that testing was not required before letting passengers disembark, an email chain has revealed.

    Apparently Gladys is still supporting NSW Health. Go figure.

  68. calli

    Thank you Winston. I have my eye on a pure bright yellow one.

  69. Docket62

    TG, is that you under the red hat??

    Sorry Keith. No one with that moniker here 🙂

  70. calli

    NSW Health

    No. No. No.

    That is not a person.

    Who gave the direction? Who made the decision?

  71. Nelson Kidd-Players

    Farmer Gez #3391177, posted on April 3, 2020 at 5:52 pm

    Could Dan of the Dead explain again why level 4 restrictions are necessary and what evidence he has to support his contention that retail shops are spreading the virus?

    Belt-and-Road terms.

  72. calli

    It may have been Decision by Committee. Who was on it?

  73. Old School Conservative

    Police commisar in NSW says going to Ikea isn’t essential

    So….work from home is mandated, but don’t go and get a desk/chair on pain of jail.

  74. Docket62

    Do that, and not only will your efforts be pointless, you’ll be destroying any chance of ever mobilising any kind of support for any meaningful protest in the future.

    How so?

  75. Roger

    NSW Health told the Ruby Princess’ senior physician that testing was not required before letting passengers disembark, an email chain has revealed.

    So Berejiklian lied about the cruise ship lying?

    ScoMo is being led by the lowest common denominator with his ‘national cabinet’ – whoever is rushing towards the cliff fastest wins.

    Egged on by a CMO who has taken his cues from the WHO from the start. He knows a lot about kidneys; but what’s necessary to isolate a country with no land borders from a pandemic? Not so much.

  76. Keith Forwheels

    Docket62
    #3391327, posted on April 3, 2020 at 7:45 pm

    TG, is that you under the red hat??

    Sorry Keith. No one with that moniker here 🙂

    Stay safe. Frame them in your narrative, don’t let them frame you. What would Gandhi do? This will be a long road.

  77. Atoms for Peace

    The new term is plague and road.

  78. Leigh Lowe

    Police commisar in NSW says going to Ikea isn’t essential

    Obviously Ikea have been remiss in acquiring Aldi bags.

  79. Dr Faustus

    ScoMo has promised to reveal the modelling behind ‘the science’ that says ‘Shut Down the Fucking Economy- NOW’. Next week, in company with Dr Paul Kelly.

    100% certain that Australia would be on track to be worse than Italy unless ScoMoPlan.
    Expert modelling will show 2,275,000 Australians could have been dead by September.
    (p 0.005%)

  80. Infidel Tiger

    Impossible to stop China Flu in Indonesia.

    Too vast, too densely populated.

    It will be a great testing ground for what happens when let loose.

  81. egg_

    Police commisar in NSW says going to Ikea isn’t essential and that people should be prevented. First rule of the government’s regulations says it isn’t illegal to get household essentials. He is out of control

    I’d like to see a pair of plod bump into half a dozen Islanders enroute to IKEA; even yours truly may take more than one bullet to stop, which would be enough to just p1ss one right off in front of witnesses.

  82. rickw:
    Some luvverly planks in those trees…

  83. Leigh Lowe

    Geriatric Mayfly

    #3391318, posted on April 3, 2020 at 7:38 pm

    I imagine these Bunnings raiders are buying turnips, cabbages and broad beans. Most unobjectionable vegie plants are now entering either death or decline.

    Yes.
    I looked up my planting chart for April for cool climes.
    Makes for grim reading.
    Kale.
    Cabbage.
    Turnips.
    The sort of thing one feeds to pigs to get something useful to eat.

  84. I’m working on a model guillotine.

    I think I can get to 25 pollies per hour.

  85. Roger

    Police commisar in NSW says going to Ikea isn’t essential

    Will that be tear gas or rubber bullets, sir?

  86. Peter the old fossil

    Does she have any idea how much of a moron she appears, judging individual circumstances? Nanny statism at its worst.

    She is simply displaying her true character. Watch the later episodes of Harry Potter. Ponygirl is simply unveiling her Delores Umbridge inner self.

  87. egg_

    Speaking of people who are not joining in the sacrifice, are any of the academics who are so fond of telling us what to do losing their jobs? How about teachers in government schools?

    All singing from the same Hymn book on Teh Dumb – if anything, they want things to go beyond 6 months.
    Our elites.

  88. calli

    Lettuce, spinach, silver beet, beetroot, rocket. Mmmmm.

  89. Roger

    The new term is plague and road.

    Chuckle.

    A gold star for Atoms.

  90. Roger

    Does she have any idea how much of a moron she appears, judging individual circumstances?

    Palooka Palaszczuk?

    No, no idea at all.

  91. Rockdoctor

    On behalf of the Chinese government and people, Xi sympathized with the Indonesian people.

    Big ethnic Chinese population in Indo that make most of the dosh enraging the pribumi Indo locals who aren’t as dynamic and sometimes go on rampages last in 1998. Brimob dealt with that one in their way. Wouldn’t be surprised to find this is a gesture to curry favour….

  92. calli

    Given the way they’ve tried to blame others, it’s more

    Plague and goad

  93. Some History

    Bent Meddler has another “episode”.

    Bette Midler: Trump’s ‘Overwhelming Jealousy of Barack Obama Will Kill Us All’

    https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2020/04/01/bette-midler-trumps-overwhelming-jealousy-of-barack-obama-will-kill-us-all/

  94. johanna

    Reading ye olde fredde, I discovered this gem:

    Mark A
    #3390153, posted on April 2, 2020 at 10:57 pm

    From my inbox as it came from my Polish friend (and client)

    Two countess rode their carriages and met on the bridge. Each of them thought that the other should give way. Believe it or not, the dispute lasted several weeks! Finally the dispute went to the king. The king issued a verdict: “The younger one must give way to the older”.

    Then they both turned back and left…

    Magnificent.

    Politicians today, reared in the bubble of their own party’s incubator, have no wisdom when it comes to dealing with awkward problems. No life experience, not much common sense. The same goes for ‘journalists.’ Faced with a problem, they have only one answer, and if it doesn’t work, they demand redoubling.

  95. cohenite

    Some more choice book titles and their blurbs; perfect for those long days and nights of social distancing!

    Girl On The Beach: From Out Of The Sea She Came To Him, Naked And Unashamed… A scorching novel of the love-them-paint-them art world — of anxious-to-undress girls who knock down studio doors — of Lissa, whose body kindled fiery desires!

    Neighbors and Lovers: a blistering novel of husbands on the prowl and wives on the loose.

    Thank you, call again: she wondered how much longer she could lead a double life: a dutiful housewife by night and a high-priced call girl by day.

  96. Old School Conservative

    The shutdown is a boon for introverts.

  97. Infidel Tiger

    Hey Victoria and NSW, you might not be aware but stage 5 restrictions prevent all alcohol sales. That’s your next stage!

    Your fascist governments are coming for you!

    Have to say, apart from no shops being open, things are pretty relaxed in WA. Suppose we can be that way when no one has the virus.

  98. EvilElvis

    What has even happened today?

    Scomo claiming he’s saved us from what would have been an extra 5000 infection cases. If you’re generous and say 1% death rate, that’s an extra 50 deaths. Current deaths at 28. What’s $300b divided by 78? He’s happy to claim unsubstantiated numbers, let’s see what a life is worth to him to bankrupt the private sector.

  99. Some History

    Bent Meddler has another “episode”.

    And so does Pear

    Cher: ‘I’ve always loathed’ Trump ‘Cowardice Will KILL US’

    “I’ve always loathed trump 4 of his unending Character Flaws, But Now his Cowardice will KILL US.DRS WILL DIE BECAUSE DISMANTLED AGENCY FORMED 2 PROTECT US FROM PANDEMICS. WONT GIVE AMERICAN PPE, HE LET AMERICA Cos.SELL MED EQUIP.2 THE WORLD. HE KNEW & STILL DID NOTHING.FLA IS GETTING MED EQUIP,” Cher screeched.

    https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2020/04/02/cher-trumps-cowardice-will-kill-us/

  100. egg_

    Eh Scomoron, how does it feel to be buttfvcked by the Hunchback?

  101. Atoms for Peace

    Thanks Roger but I read it somewhere else. Worth repeating though..

  102. egg_

    The shutdown is a boon for introverts.

    Amen.
    I’ll bet folk are out strolling on Bondi beach.

  103. johanna

    calli
    #3391328, posted on April 3, 2020 at 7:46 pm

    NSW Health

    No. No. No.

    That is not a person.

    Who gave the direction? Who made the decision?

    The Deputy CMO. Don’t know his/her name.

    Won’t be sacked, on that you can rely.

  104. Atoms for Peace

    And as for those pesky fruit bat colonies in Australia, I do have a tourist based solution for them. Burp…

  105. EvilElvis

    Actually, 28 dead already. He’s potentially saved 50 lives, $60,000,000 a head. Hallelujah!

  106. Infidel Tiger

    Actually, 28 dead already. He’s potentially saved 50 lives, $60,000,000 a head. Hallelujah!

    $60,000,000 is just the stimulus per old xunt.

    $600,000,000 in ongoing costs is more likely. We are now in a depression for at least the next decade.

  107. EvilElvis

    Wait! I’ve fucked that up, the numbers are bigger than my 1985 solar powered Sanyo calc can handle. Add 2 zeros to the above figure.

  108. areff

    Speaking of people who are not joining in the sacrifice, are any of the academics who are so fond of telling us what to do losing their jobs?

    They are enduring horrors you can’t imagine. For almost a month now no one has been able to get any attention at all by frothing about the climate emergency. If this keeps up, count on Garnaut et al breaking into Myer so they can bare their arses in the window. It’s the only way they’ll get any attention at all.

  109. RobK

    I think I can get to 25 pollies per hour.
    You are going to have to motorise it.

  110. johanna

    It must be hell for extroverts, but every dog has its day. 🙂

    But, never mind about the feelz, how about stopping the country from plunging into a Depression?

  111. Peter the old fossil

    How so?

    For a start even if Anzac Day was a suitable date – which it’s not – you have only 21 days to get it all together – not nearly enough time to organise the numbers required for a meaningful protest.

    Even more importantly, if Australia has one truly universal sacred day it is not Good Friday and it is not Christmas Day, it is Anzac Day. Using it as a venue to protest against anything will only result in alienating a huge section of the population.

    We already have one day where Aussies come out in droves, simply to be Aussies. And that is Australia Day, January 26. It is already under attack by the Left, which is a feature, not a bug, and it is far enough away to build major popular support for any protest.

  112. Calli:
    I’ll have a look in the morning and see what colours I have atm.

  113. Liberty Quote:

    The right of revolution is an inherent one. When people are oppressed by their government, it is a natural right they enjoy to relieve themselves of oppression, if they are strong enough, whether by withdrawal from it, or by overthrowing it and substituting a government more acceptable.

    — Ulysses S. Grant

  114. calli

    That would be Chant, Joh.

    Still yapping every morning on the tele.

  115. calli

    Don’t worry about it Winston. I have one picked out. But thank you for your kind offer.

    Reminds me of Kaye, who had lots of cuttings. I have only managed seedlings from one follicle.

  116. Rockdoctor

    Egged on by a CMO who has taken his cues from the WHO from the start. He knows a lot about kidneys; but what’s necessary to isolate a country with no land borders from a pandemic? Not so much.

    This is what is starting to really enrage me Roger. CMO is an expert, listen to his advice. Then consult with other stakeholders to get all the information: what it will do to the economy, legal implications locally/internationally the design a coarse of action to manage the risk versus reward. Come out and sell it as the best way forward, no vague wishy washy language.

    IMO I have seen precious little of that and leadership, more like a series of reactive measures. The move from detention centres as quarantine to Hotels is a front & centre example, they are kowtowing to social media crowds and it still isn’t working! Also the fact no-one is apologising & fessing up to mistakes which I could forgive with real contrition not Beattie style platitudes or some real incompetence is being swept under the rug but stinking with a foul stench. i.e. Ruby Princess.

  117. Geriatric Mayfly

    calli
    #3391348, posted on April 3, 2020 at 7:59 pm
    Lettuce, spinach, silver beet, beetroot, rocket. Mmmmm.

    All right for you. If you are out hunting frangipanni, then you must be far removed from the Steppes of Sodom. Silver beet? Up the throat comes a long lodged treat from boarding school.

  118. Peter the old fossil

    But, never mind about the feelz, how about stopping the country from plunging into a Depression?

    Already taken care of Johanna, That’s what the $3 + trillion in super funds is earmarked for.

  119. Some History

    BREAKING NEWS:

    The National Cabinet has appointed new spokesperson to improve transparency

    https://imgur.com/eNjmWuV

  120. mh

    Bernie Ecclestone, brown bre…. no wait.

    He’s planted his seed

    Formula 1 racing’s Bernie Ecclestone is proud to announce that he is going to be a father again… at 89.

  121. Oh come on

    The Twitter blue check marks are ecstatic at the current goings on and seem to think ScoMo is ushering in the vision of Bernie Sanders. The thing is, they may be right.

  122. Infidel Tiger

    Has to be said, it is so heartwarming how much people hate China!

    So many random people are telling me they want them finished.

    Canberra has heard the jungle drums too. That’s why that fat heap of shit Morrison made mention of the OzGooks being ok yesterday.

  123. rickw

    National Cabinet

    The finest collection of mouth breathing knuckle heads ever assembled.

  124. candy

    Miss Gladys B knows who gave the order and she’s protecting them.

    Some kind of favour being done for someone, NSW Libs and all.

    But it has ended it perhaps 10 deaths, much fear and distress and partially contributing to Morrison closing down the economy because of those deaths.

  125. rickw

    Canberra has heard the jungle drums too. That’s why that fat heap of shit Morrison made mention of the OzGooks being ok yesterday.

    The fuckers who facilitated the covert export of medical equipment at the request of the CCP are ok?

  126. Bar Beach Swimmer

    “If Australians really are all in this together, as the PM says, every federal and state politician should have their pay cut by 20% until the lockdown is over.”

    And by doing so there would an incentive to re-open (unhibernate? is that really possible) the economy: if there’s no pain being felt by the ruling classes (I know, they’re supposed to be the servants of the people, but that is an outmoded construction), then it’s possible that this destruction of the country’s economic and social life will continue much longer than is necessary. I’d be very surprised if, with the reduction of their wages, the “entrails readers” were not able to revise the models.

  127. mh

    I heard Clive Hamilton interviewed by John Stanley in the week. A very intelligent man.

    Hamilton has a new book out soon – Hidden Hand

    In this landmark follow-up to the bestselling Silent Invasion, Clive Hamilton and Mareike Ohlberg expose the Chinese Communist Party’s global program of influence and subversion, and the threat it poses to democracy.

  128. Docket62

    stage 5 restrictions prevent all alcohol sales.

    We are weathered bootleggers here in Mexico

  129. johanna

    Peter. I have several times advised everyone who can cash in their super to do so.

    TheirABC reports that when real estate agents remind people that, among other options, they can cash in part of their super to pay their rent, they are being threatened by the ACCC. Apparently, this falls into the category of providing financial advice without a licence.

    The ACCC is out of control. A more useless body would be hard to imagine. If it was abolished tomorrow, nobody would notice, except taxpayerss. They are now seeking relevance by getting involved with virus related issues.

    Renters were not ‘advised’ to cash in part of their super. There was a suite of options, and that was one. If they hadn’t mentioned it, the ACCC would be on to them about that.

  130. Geriatric Mayfly

    Formula 1 racing’s Bernie Ecclestone is proud to announce that he is going to be a father again… at 89.
    In these times of confusion can we be sure they were his taddies?

  131. Docket62

    For a start even if Anzac Day was a suitable date – which it’s not – you have only 21 days to get it all together

    You really dont understand social media do you?

    As for Australia Day.. WTF? The concept of a protest is to conduct it whilst the thing you are protesting is happening.. not when its been buried for 8 Months…FMD

  132. Peter the old fossil

    Has to be said, it is so heartwarming heartrending how much people are being led to hate China!

    FIFY

  133. JC

    my

    Chives first and foremost is a gerbil warming bed wetter. Whenever he takes aim, that’s the scope he uses…Gerbiling. He is against China because China is a huge emitter. This cue ball was a greens party candidate some years ago.

  134. MatrixTransform

    We are weathered bootleggers here in Mexico

    Mexican bootleggers unite.

    I’m collecting sugar

    not panic-buying … collecting

  135. johanna

    mh
    #3391387, posted on April 3, 2020 at 8:27 pm

    Bernie Ecclestone, brown bre…. no wait.

    He’s planted his seed

    Formula 1 racing’s Bernie Ecclestone is proud to announce that he is going to be a father again… at 89.

    I doubt that the sperm of an 89 year old is going to produce Best in Show.

  136. Narwhal Tusk

    Helen
    My uncle flew Kittyhawks.
    I must dig out some nice photos I have.
    Should I mention he was only 19.

    TE
    if you would like to get my email, I’ll post you that book.
    It was published in 1953 and I first read it about then.
    Tempis fugit.

  137. old bloke

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #3391131, posted on April 3, 2020 at 5:19 pm

    I am hoping he will cooperate in this measure and not regard it as overkill. Which he just might. 🙂

    Your precautions are inadequate Lizzie.

    When he comes home, you should first hose him down with the garden hose in the driveway. Then remove the clothing, place in a sealed bag for incineration, and scrub with wire brush, then a second hosing.

    To make sure there’s no remaining virus bugs in the water molecules, he should then go for a short run in his wet nakedness. He doesn’t have to go far*, perhaps just around the block, to remove any remaining water molecules.

    When he returns, scrub with a Dettol and water solution. To keep safe social distances, I’d recommend using a long handled broom for this operation. After which, he can go inside and you can follow your procedures with the Glen 20 etc. Then extract the shopping bag from the car, hope he didn’t buy ice cream because it’s melted by now.

    *Regarding the lap of honour around the block: be prepared for people to look shocked or outraged, some may make unwelcome remarks, and some may throw out of date vegetables as he manly strides by, unfortunately some people don’t understand the seriousness of the situation, and how important it is to defeat this cursed Chinese virus.

  138. Some History

    Formula 1 racing’s Bernie Ecclestone is proud to announce that he is going to be a father again… at 89.

    Lil’ Bernie could hardly contain his excitement at the announcement

    https://imgur.com/GNTJbVZ

  139. johanna

    I heard Clive Hamilton interviewed by John Stanley in the week. A very intelligent man.

    That would be the same Clive Hamilton who suggested that we should ‘suspend democracy’ to fight climate change.

    He is now a tenured academic at a fifth rate TAFE in central NSW.

    Get a grip.

  140. vlad

    That would be the same Clive Hamilton who suggested that we should ‘suspend democracy’ to fight climate change.

    We’ve suspended the Constitution instead to fight Wu Flu.

  141. Arky

    Kenworth have closed the Bayswater truck plant until management can find a way to build a truck without workers contravening the 1.5 meter social distancing laws.

    ..
    They could gay marry the workers into couples and then adopt a couple of apprentices each and work as families.

  142. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Roger at 8:01 pm:

    “Does she have any idea how much of a moron she appears, judging individual circumstances?

    Palooka Palaszczuk?

    No, no idea at all.”

    The intelligentsia and the doctors wives, dumb blondes all, clamored for wall to wall females in control, for no good reason, and they got it. They represent all wymminses – no wymminses took issue with that claim.

    For example – the Queensland Cabinet is more than 50% female, every other departmental heavy is a female, the police head public servant in a pretty blue uniform bedecked with bravery and campaign medals from eBay is a female, the chief justice is a female and the State is an organisational and financial shambles.

    The greatest threat to the Premier is her Deputy Premier, an utterly unscrupulous feeelthy rich left wing w0g female who is untouchable. That’s how wymminses do things to, above all, suit themselves.

    It’s a bit late to pith and moan about it now fellas.

  143. mh

    The Chinese Communist Party is determined to reshape the world in its image. The party is not interested in democracy. It sees only a bitter ideological struggle with the West, dividing the world into those who can be won over, and enemies. Many political and business elites have already been lured to their corner; others are weighing up a devil’s bargain.

    Through its enormous economic power and covert influence operations, China is now weakening global institutions, aggressively targeting individual corporations, and threatening freedom of expression from the arts to academia. At the same time, Western security services are increasingly worried about incursions into our communications infrastructure.

    In a landmark study combining meticulous research with unique insights, Hidden Hand exposes the Chinese Communist Party’s global program of subversion, and the threat it poses to democracy. We have already missed too many warning signs – now it is time to wake up.

  144. Arky

    Why do I have to do all the thinking for the whole country?

  145. Some History

    Formula 1 racing’s Bernie Ecclestone is proud to announce that he is going to be a father again… at 89.
    In these times of confusion can we be sure they were his taddies?

    The happy couple

    https://imgur.com/C0OYc0Z

  146. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Who will be the first of the National Cabinet Premiers to break ranks?

    Egg, the first one who realises their polling numbers are at the base of a very large shaft that risks taking the rest of them there.

  147. JC

    Maybe it’s really bad news for us going into winter.

    Cal, Texas and Florida have much smaller levels of contagion than the cooler states according to reports. Cal is around 12% of the population and ~ 3% of the cases.

    We maybe screwed.

  148. Ellie

    For those that live alone and are an essential service; this virus is showing just how important you are to people. Nothing. Zip. Nought. Non-essential public servants are surrounded by wealth and people who care, apparently. I feel very alone.

  149. vlad

    On a scale of 1 to 5 where 1 is ordinary seasonal flu and 5 is Spanish Influenza 1918, Wu Flu in Australia is a 2.

    I think our masters have overreacted.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandemic_severity_index

  150. Docket62

    We have already missed too many warning signs – now it is time to wake up.

    Time to tool up eh…….

  151. JC

    my, let me suggest a small edit.

    The Australian Greens Party is determined to reshape the world in its image. The party is not interested in democracy. It sees only a bitter ideological struggle with the West, dividing the world into those who can be won over, and enemies. Many political and business elites have already been lured to their corner; others are weighing up a devil’s bargain.

  152. Mitch M.

    The ABC’s Revelation is clearly in contempt of court. It would be argued of course that no High Court judge would be prejudiced against Pell. (Although the damage to this court might arise from members of the public thinking the court was influenced if their holding is adverse to Pell.)

    There cannot be contempt in relation to legal proceedings that may happen at a future date, it can only happen when legal proceedings are in process otherwise anything stated about a particular matter could latter be used to a charge of contempt of court.

  153. Arky

    The time is right for all of us to gay marry to get around the isolation regulations.
    Who’s up for it?
    I’m adopting Johanna and JC as my kids, so take that into consideration.
    Just so I can glare at them in the mirror and go “If you kids can’t stop bickering I’m going to turn this car right around and no one’s going for a walk on the beach spaced 2 metres apart from each other”.

  154. Ellie

    We will attempt to keep the community safe though. Bureaucracy V frontline shit kickers!

  155. johanna

    *Regarding the lap of honour around the block: be prepared for people to look shocked or outraged, some may make unwelcome remarks, and some may throw out of date vegetables as he manly strides by, unfortunately some people don’t understand the seriousness of the situation, and how important it is to defeat this cursed Chinese virus.

    Really, oldbloke, you pleb.

    This is Vaucluse! This is where the promoters of the tax deductible medicos cruise (and our sacred Lizzie) live! This is where the cruise promoters who skipped quarantine still live, with nary a touch of the ‘ello. ello, ello’ while the rest of us are held up and questioned in roadblocks! Nobody has dragged them down to a quarantine station. They are special. Just ask Lizzie.

    Dear oh dear oh dear. What a naif you are. 🙁

  156. mh

    I’m declaring it first.

    Clive Hamilton is a conservative.

    Welcome, brother.

  157. JC

    Vlad

    Hope you’re right. However , weather could be important, so it’s got to be cleared out this month otherwise we could be in trouble… but then the Trump meds may work.

  158. vlad

    Clive Hamilton is a conservative.

    Merely having ScoMo to the left of you doesn’t make you a conservative.

  159. Bar Beach Swimmer

    twostix
    #3391278, posted on April 3, 2020 at 7:05 pm

    👍

  160. johanna

    Arky
    #3391430, posted on April 3, 2020 at 9:01 pm

    The time is right for all of us to gay marry to get around the isolation regulations.
    Who’s up for it?
    I’m adopting Johanna and JC as my kids, so take that into consideration.
    Just so I can glare at them in the mirror and go “If you kids can’t stop bickering I’m going to turn this car right around and no one’s going for a walk on the beach spaced 2 metres apart from each other”.

    Not sure if you can adopt someone older than you as a kid.

    But, if possible, ‘are we there yet’ would burst your eardrums.

  161. egg_

    Who will be the first of the National Cabinet Premiers to break ranks?

    Egg, the first one who realises their polling numbers are at the base of a very large shaft that risks taking the rest of them there.

    Persackly!

  162. JC

    Hey, if. Chives has made a religious conversion, more power to him. However, being anti-China is not a reason to embrace cue ball. Despising China because of their emissions is not a good reason.

  163. Dr Faustus

    Kenworth have closed the Bayswater truck plant until management can find a way to build a truck without workers contravening the 1.5 meter social distancing laws.

    My CFMMEU contacts tell me that the Union is pushing strongly for a time-based social distancing metric. Apparently, the boys are losing out a bit with 1.5m restriction, 4m Rule, whatever – and that will never fuckin’ do.

    Going to National Cabinet – with the science.
    And stuff.

  164. egg_

    stage 5 restrictions

    Doors welded shut and live fry your pets.

  165. Nob

    Rockdoctor
    #3391382, posted on April 3, 2020 at 8:22 pm
    This is what is starting to really enrage me Roger. CMO is an expert, listen to his advice. Then consult with other stakeholders

    Yes FFS.

    All these innumerate arts graduates crapping on about trusting Experts and The Science.

    They couldn’t tell a zoology dropout from a real scientist and the dead giveaway is that they never mention the specific discipline.

    Anyway, I’m sure you’ve been in morning meetings for mining or drilling operations and every expert present has input but decisions are then made by project manager or similar.

    Sometimes they have to go back to partners because of financial impact of new operations required.

    In my case, for example, the optimum parameters for some tools on the drill string conflict with some other tools or requirements. Somebody has to consider and balance all that and decide the best , which is the same as least worst, cost of action.

    YOU DON’T LET THE SPECIALISTS RUN THE WHOLE SHOW.

    No, no, no!

  166. Arky

    Bought a 3 Kg bag of icing sugar online.
    Not sure what I’m going to do with it, but it’s there if the need arises.

  167. C.L.

    The ABC’s Revelation is clearly in contempt of court.

    No, in contempt of the law. The program was defamatory. The ABC thinks it’s above the law. Just because a man is in prison, that doesn’t mean he cannot be defamed. Typically, media outlets will only broadcast or publish criminal accusations against a named individual when they’re certain he’ll be charged and certain there is prosecutable evidence. They will then offer a public interest justification for their story, secure in the knowledge or belief (acting on in-house legal advice) that when the individual is convicted, no defamation will exist.

    In this case, the state of Victoria has already checked out the claims made by “Bernie” and concluded they were bullshit. They were thrown out. The ABC also knows there is no evidence to support the accusations. They went ahead anyway because a) they believe Pell is too old, beaten down and destroyed to fight another fight in court; and b) they have an unlimited budget and don’t personally care about the consequences.

    Terrified of Pell being acquitted (they seem to believe he will be), the ABC wants to associate a “new” scandal to his name as punishment.

  168. johanna

    mh
    #3391435, posted on April 3, 2020 at 9:03 pm

    I’m declaring it first.

    Clive Hamilton is a conservative.

    Welcome, brother.

    Are you a troll?

  169. Some History

    At the moment, half the American death toll comes from New York/New Jersey

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

  170. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Narwhal Tusk at 8:50 pm:

    “Helen
    My uncle flew Kittyhawks.
    I must dig out some nice photos I have.
    Should I mention he was only 19. …”

    On occasion I have looked down into the cockpit of a Spitfire or an FA18. I have concluded I could not have fulfilled a destiny as a fighter ace over London or in Miramax’ Top Gun – a man needs to be built like Malcolm Johnston or Roy Higgins on a good day to fit into the allotted tiny, tiny space!

  171. Arky

    Clive Hamilton has been sensible on China for quite some time if memory serves me correctly.

  172. Ellie

    This virus has shown just how much us essential service providers are just a number.

  173. JC

    Just out of curiosity.. The flu was off the charts in January 2018 and by May that year medical authorities were about to call it a pandemic. Fuckers going to the wintery northern hemisphere brought it back. Are we going to close the economy for a bad flu season next time around?

  174. Nick

    Terrified of Pell being acquitted (they seem to believe he will be), the ABC wants to associate a “new” scandal to his name as punishment.

    To create a stain and hound the man upon his release with statements such as’ still under investigation for serious accusations’

  175. Ellie

    Wish life was as great as bespoke says it is.

  176. Tel

    These are the people who wail about the wickedness of uneven income and wealth distribution the loudest.

    Just watch them cash in as the little people go broke, while still deploring capitalism in public.

    But johanna they do honestly deplore capitalism, that’s why they get themselves into key positions and use government to thumb the scale in their favour. People who love capitalism would never do that.

  177. mh

    Hey, if. Chives has made a religious conversion, more power to him. However, being anti-China is not a reason to embrace cue ball.

    True, but I think his reasons for being anti China are the important point.

    What you are arguing is he is writing books on China undermining the West because he hates their carbon emissions. Whereas I believe Clive has discovered the road to righteousness and his thinking now is that the West is in fact worth fighting for. Sometimes you have to face an enemy to realise what is important.

  178. Arky

    I think it’s likely we are in the deaths in ones, twos and threes stage right now, and due for a day of ten or 15.
    From looking at other like countries, pretty soon after that you are getting fifty a day, then 150 a day.
    I hope I’m wrong, and I sure hope one of ’ems not me or one of the few people I like.
    But I think it’s going to happen here pretty soon.

  179. JC

    If Pell is released, he should simply head back to Rome and be done with this shithole. Never look back. In any event, Rome would be a great place to see out his last days as a card. The Vatican looks top notch. Never look back and never even go near the Australian media.

  180. cohenite

    I heard Clive Hamilton interviewed by John Stanley in the week. A very intelligent man.
    Hamilton has a new book out soon – Hidden Hand
    In this landmark follow-up to the bestselling Silent Invasion, Clive Hamilton and Mareike Ohlberg expose the Chinese Communist Party’s global program of influence and subversion, and the threat it poses to democracy.

    That is fucking ironic:

    https://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/andrew-bolt/the-denier-clive-hamilton/news-story/872ae4944a7d435132bf560d8f6c1ebe#commentsmore

  181. Nick

    One person who will be sure to have mixed feelings at GPS release would be Archbishop Fisher. Pell and Cassidy retaining their Cardinalships.

  182. Peter the old fossil

    Good evening Ellie.
    Sounds like you need a relaxing back massage while you sip a good Merlot.

  183. JC

    mh

    I’m the first here to forgive sinners and transgressors. When cue ball apologizes for his time with the Greens, gets on his hands and knees begging forgiveness for suggesting we should suspend democracy and sic the security services onto gerbil sceptics… well a decade after I’m prepared to accept his knee padding apologies. I also need to see tears.

  184. Geriatric Mayfly

    Terrified of Pell being acquitted (they seem to believe he will be), the ABC wants to associate a “new” scandal to his name as punishment.

    To that end, wasn’t old Vingar Tits supposed to drop the mother of all bombshells last night? Didn’t the researchers “gasp” when they became privy to yet another horrendous deed? Not much evidence of it today.

  185. mc

    A compost bin as a free market economy

  186. JC

    Cronkite

    We don’t need you in this discussion on chives. Butt out.

  187. C.L.

    Just out of curiosity.. The flu was off the charts in January 2018 and by May that year medical authorities were about to call it a pandemic. Fuckers going to the wintery northern hemisphere brought it back. Are we going to close the economy for a bad flu season next time around?

    Doing some research for a post the other day, I came across an Australian Medical Journal article whose authors included Dr Brendan Murphy (now Morrison’s CMO and coronavirus czar). It was about the 2009 flu and how hugely bad it was, lessons to be learned etc etc.

    Ever heard of it?

  188. Arky

    The pattern is, you have a death or two a day for ten days or two weeks, then a spike up into the double digits, then you are off to the races.
    This is the consistent pattern in countries with reliable data who haven’t got their shit together with a treatment protocol.
    We are due.

  189. Eyrie

    “Bought a 3 Kg bag of icing sugar online.”
    Now buy some pool chemicals.

  190. egg_

    That is fucking ironic:

    Elastic democracy, Comrade.

  191. C.L.

    I Googled it up again …

    Here it is: Is Australia prepared for the next pandemic?

    The 2009 influenza pandemic tested Australia’s capacity to respond to a highly transmissible emerging infectious disease.3 Public health units and frontline practitioners around the country were affected in different ways. The pandemic reached our states and territories at different times, leading to staggered and varied responses and pointing to clear gaps and challenges in logistics and governance.

  192. Ellie

    Good evening Ellie.
    Sounds like you need a relaxing back massage while you sip a good Merlot.

    A cab sav is preferable.

    Back massage? Always welcome.

    Seriously though. I can’t be the only frontline shit kicker here. This virus is showing the true spirit of so-called supportive high ranking officers.

    I am a senior (in rank, not age 🙂 ). We are drowing in red tape.

  193. JC

    Arky
    #3391454, posted on April 3, 2020 at 9:14 pm
    Clive Hamilton has been sensible on China for quite some time if memory serves me correctly.

    Two things

    1. What’s his motivation considering what he’s said about liberal democracy and the use of security services.
    2. You don’t need cue ball to make the case against the CCP.

  194. mh

    cohenite
    #3391469, posted on April 3, 2020 at 9:23 pm

    re top link.

    I see you guys are all there in the comments in Feb 2012.

    With monty at the top.

  195. JC

    Eyrie

    Mixing icing sugar and pool chemicals to treat the China bug hasn’t been tested. Be careful.

  196. Arky

    Due to the fact that we were oblivious while chinese overseas students smurfed all the required PPE that our hospitals need to adequately protect our doctors and nurses, I feel we may be screwed.

  197. Ellie

    I do realise the irony – a law enforcement type on a Libertarian blog.

  198. cohenite

    I also need to see tears.

    Who amongst us head prefect would not burst into spontaneous tears on gazing upon your stern but wise visage.

  199. Ellie

    I can’t be the only one.

  200. Eyrie

    It ain’t for the China bug JC.

  201. egg_

    Has Scomoron got out-of-work Rodeo Clowns patrolling Bondi beach?
    If not, why not?

  202. Arky

    What’s his motivation

    ..
    Don’t know the man and I can’t read minds.
    I would support Darth Vader or Ted Bundy if they were putting their energies towards fucking with the CCP.

  203. mh

    2. You don’t need cue ball to make the case against the CCP.

    If the book(s) are well researched, and he makes the case effectively, I cannot see the downside.

  204. Perth Trader

    Under what law can a Aust. premier stop any person from entering or leave a State? Unless that person is wanted for a crime? Has the Aust. constitution been cancelled? Can I really be arrested and fined for travelling by road to another state ?

  205. Ellie

    In your relationships at work, who is ultimately there in the end? Not your fucking Commish or Minister.

  206. Eyrie

    Via Instapundit:
    https://www.reaperpatches.com/products/operation-enduring-clusterfuck-covid-19
    Seems totally appropriate for the government response in Australia.

  207. Docket62

    From looking at other like countries, pretty soon after that you are getting fifty a day, then 150 a day.

    No Arky, there’s no comparison. Italy and America (NY and Ca) simply Lie. It’s in their interest to record C19 cases, because they benefit financially from it. In some cases the testing is so bad, they are simply testing for any Corona virus (IE: The common cold) in order to garner figures… a lot of these people dies of the thing they were suffering from and happened to have a damn cold – hence they are on the books

    Try this: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLk-wf9BEGn_mEY_LxjAABgv3HX5wIef-p

    Candace Owens is backing this as well

  208. cohenite

    I see you guys are all there in the comments in Feb 2012.

    Those were the days when head prefect looked upon me favourably, if not adoringly. Alas, gone for good.

  209. DrBeauGan

    very interesting story, worth a read if you are into that sort of thing
    Does relativity lie at the source of quantum exoticism?

    Very interesting and potentially very important. You put up some good stuff, zippy. I downloaded the pdf and sent it to a colleague.

  210. Arky

    For sure, Mr Vader, this Death Star seems a little inhumane, but I like your stance on fucking with the CCP.
    Same goes for you Mr. Bundy. Please don’t kill me.

  211. egg_

    You put up some good stuff, zippy.

    +1

    Ditto Mitch.

  212. mh

    Remember Britain’s Brexit debate had some strange bedfellows, too.

    Like George Galloway supporting Nigel Farage.

  213. Peter the old fossil

    A cab sav it is then.

    It’s not just “frontline essential services” that are drowning in red tape, Ellie.
    Greg, an old bushie mate of mine from the NT called in yesterday on his way home from the pool supplies shop. He reckoned the red tape involved in getting some of the chemicals was unbelievable – and he doesn’t even own a pool!

  214. johanna

    I was intending to sell my joint this year. Arthritis, can’t do the stairs that well, garden too much, etc. This is my life savings.

    My plight is nothing like that of many thousands of people, losing their businesses and homes, all because less than 50 people have died of a bug.

    What is wrong with these people?

  215. BrettW

    From todays Courier Mail which was about Premier’s decision to put on hold pay rise for 220,000 state employees

    “Every dollar the Government can save now by freezing wages is a dollar it wont have to borrow.

    And every dollar it wont have to borrow is one that doesn’t have to be raised by new and increased taxes to pay it off”.

  216. mh

    Bolt should invite Hamilton on his show to discuss his book Hidden Hand.

    That’s a great title, too.

  217. johanna

    mh
    #3391506, posted on April 3, 2020 at 9:39 pm

    Remember Britain’s Brexit debate had some strange bedfellows, too.

    Like George Galloway supporting Nigel Farage.

    You definitely are a troll.

  218. Ellie

    I am surrounded by, who I thought were my genuine gay friends. They have become the most hysterical mob. This virus is illuminating.

  219. Diogenes

    If the heads of governments all agreed together to put all of the political decisions that have to be made in the country into the hands of an unelected panel of academics and they themselves would just be mouthpieces for the panel, would they be allowed to do that?

    Listening to OberstGruppenfuehrer Fuller in interviews I wonder if HE is running the state rather than the ostensible bosses Galdys & Idiot Elliot or the Health Minister(who?) in whose name this mess is unfolding

  220. Empire 5:5

    Under what law can a Aust. premier stop any person from entering or leave a State? Unless that person is wanted for a crime? Has the Aust. constitution been cancelled? Can I really be arrested and fined for travelling by road to another state ?

    Good question that no j’ismist has asked.

    I’m actually awaiting legal advice for this very matter.

  221. Peter the old fossil

    What is wrong with these people?

    Nothing – for them.
    Everything is proceeding as planned.

  222. C.L.

    Ellie, you work for yourself and you’re shut down?
    How are you faring?

  223. Docket62

    Here’s an example of the US news media spooking the public. It’s happening all the time:
    https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1244661417023856640

    Using footage of an Italian Hospital and masquerading it as a NY hospital and then getting caught.

  224. cohenite

    There cannot be contempt in relation to legal proceedings that may happen at a future date, it can only happen when legal proceedings are in process otherwise anything stated about a particular matter could latter be used to a charge of contempt of court.

    Not necessarily. The test at common law is whether the action taken against the person had a tendency to interfere with the administration of justice: In the matter of Samuel Goldman, Re; sub nom Re Goldman [1968] 3 NSWR 325 at 327, 328. It is not necessary to show actual interference: Harkianakis v Skalkos (1997) 42 NSWLR 22 at 29.

    Improper pressure on prospective parties, before any proceedings have been commenced, can constitute a contempt. This is upon the basis that it represents an interference with the administration of justice generally: Live Group Pty Ltd v Rabbi Ulman [2017] NSWSC 1759.

  225. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Very interesting and potentially very important. You put up some good stuff, zippy. I downloaded the pdf and sent it to a colleague.

    the original paper if anyone is interested

    Quantum principle of relativity
    Andrzej Dragan1,2 and Artur Ekert2,3

  226. The time is right for all of us to gay marry to get around the regulations.

    Not sure about that Arky

  227. egg_

    stage 5 restrictions

    Doors welded shut and live fry your pets.

    Victorians ask for recipes.

    Dan complies.

  228. Perth Trader

    EMPIRE 5:5…….the Aust constitution states free travel and trade between states. My guess is that the only way to stop a citizen from travelling is if the person carries the CV19 bug, and that will require a test at a border stop.

  229. Empire 5:5

    JC
    #3391456, posted on April 3, 2020 at 9:15 pm
    Just out of curiosity.. The flu was off the charts in January 2018 and by May that year medical authorities were about to call it a pandemic. Fuckers going to the wintery northern hemisphere brought it back. Are we going to close the economy for a bad flu season next time around?

    Nope. This is a once in human history mass mind control experiment.

    It will backfire monumentally. In 12 months time half the population will have a CL quality BS detector operational in their head.

  230. Porcelain Monkey

    Winston Smith
    Looks like they are doing a decent restoration.

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