Open Forum: April 4, 2020

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  1. Kel

    Doesn’t seem the same when there are not 3,500 comments floating about.

  2. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Evening all and Sliante.

  3. I claim this thread on behalf of glorious worker’s revolutionary front lead by Comrade Morrison and his ACTU cabinet!

  4. Ellie

    I am in moderation because I posted about the holocaust. Sigh

  5. Peter the old fossil

    Hello Lovely Lady,
    Is it late enough for you and I to be a bit flirty?

  6. Two point five metres, Ellie. No further.

  7. Knuckle Dragger

    Soooo…..

    How much do you reckon McPoloPony and the AFL trousered from the Bat People to get Port Adelaide to play in Chai-nerr for the past couple of years?

    That has not, and will not age well.

  8. Ellie

    Hello Lovely Lady,
    Is it late enough for you and I to be a bit flirty?

    Never too late.

  9. EvilElvis

    Apparently not enough to pay for the subsequent virtue he unleashed on us plebs, KD.

  10. Knuckle Dragger

    Here’s one for you, munter.

    On this day in 1922 Joseph Stalin became the General Secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union.

    Only a couple of million down at that point. 98 million or so to go.

  11. Ellie

    Two point five metres, Ellie. No further.

    Monty – how many inches is two point five metres?

  12. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I claim this thread on behalf of glorious worker’s revolutionary front lead by Comrade Morrison and his ACTU cabinet!

    Try not to post when you are drunk, Fascist hyena, you only beclown yourself. Never difficult in your case.

  13. Peter the old fossil

    how many inches is two point five metres?

    Way too many, Lovely Lady.
    I know I’m well endowed but sheesh – talk about mission impossible.

  14. A gentleman never tells, Ellie.

  15. Ellie

    m0nty – you are a true gentleman.

  16. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Here’s one for you, munter.

    More recently, a hundred thousand South Vietnamese summarily executed after “liberation”, two hundred thousand South Vietnamese died from hunger or disease in the “re education” camps, after “liberation” and two million Cambodians died from hunger or disease after “liberation.”

  17. EvilElvis

    A tribute to Kenny

    I tell you what, if Kylie bolted a couple of watermelons to the chassis she wouldn’t be far off a young Dolly, egg.

  18. Leigh Lowe

    m0nty

    #3391727, posted on April 4, 2020 at 12:44 am

    A gentleman never tells, Ellie

    Once again straying outside your area of expertise.
    Well outside.

  19. egg_

    how many inches is two point five metres?

    n^2 schadenboners

  20. Peter the old fossil

    A gentleman never tells, Ellie.

    Don’t be fooled, Ellie.
    That bulge isn’t him – I bet he’s got a pair of socks jammed down the front of his trousers.

  21. Knuckle Dragger

    Rhinolphus affinis, and the people that insist on chowing down on rhinolphus affinis are responsible for the current state of affairs in this country.

    Just sayin’.

  22. Ellie

    Mae West wasn’t really that attractive. Loved her double entendres though.

  23. EvilElvis

    Mae West wasn’t really that attractive.

    Yep. But the right attitude makes up for a lot. Solid unit. Firecracker in the sack?

  24. Leigh Lowe

    Knuckle Dragger

    #3391717, posted on April 4, 2020 at 12:36 am

    Soooo…..

    How much do you reckon McPoloPony and the AFL trousered from the Bat People to get Port Adelaide to play in Chai-nerr for the past couple of years?

    That has not, and will not age well.

    Whatever it was, it won’t be enough.
    Played on a tennis court in front of Pardy invitees who were clueless as to what it was about.
    The only thing which made it slightly authentically AFL was the prices they charged for spicy bat wings … outrageous.

  25. Ellie

    Firecracker in the sack?

    Absofuckinglutly!

  26. Peter the old fossil

    Just sayin’.

    You’re batty, Knuckles – somebody should clout you with a horseshoe.

  27. Don’t think Jaryn Geary would be keen for a China match

  28. mh

    You’ve painted up your ship
    The girls have curled their tinted hair
    Ruby Princess are you contemplating
    Docking somewhere
    The shadow on the wall
    Tells me the sun is going down
    Oh Ruby
    Don’t take corona to town

    It wasn’t me
    That started that old crazy Asian virus
    But I was proud to go
    Aboard the Ruby Princess
    And yes, it’s true that
    I’m not the man that I used to be
    Oh, Ruby, I just wanted company

    Oh Ruby for God’s sake turn around

  29. Steve trickler

    Look at that photo. Fucking brilliant.



  30. JC

    Anyone watched Tiger King? I watched the first episode. These are the kinds of stories that made America great. A gun toting, drug fiend, gay dude owned 107 big cats.

  31. EvilElvis

    Don’t think Jaryn Geary would be keen for a China match

    Wouldn’t want a round two with what they’ve been eating there lately.

    Bit hard to explain away that injury list.

    Jaryn Geary – soup – test.

  32. Ellie

    I am weak at the knees.

  33. Peter the old fossil

    I am weak at the knees.

    Yes, I tend to have that effect.
    Don’t worry, it will wear off after a couple of hours.

  34. Ellie

    A couple of hours? Your length is long!

  35. mh

    Bill Withers, brown bread.

  36. Peter the old fossil

    It’s not the length so much as the width.

  37. Ellie

    Dear Peter – width is irrelevant.

  38. mh

    It seems like only last week we were all playing UK death lotto, and guessing numbers like 25 new deaths.

    Oh yeah, it was last week.

    Days of innocence.

  39. Peter the old fossil

    width is irrelevant.

    Damn! There goes my one sales pitch.

  40. Ellie

    Mh – how many died of the normal flu?

  41. mh

    Mh – how many died of the normal flu?

    Yesterday? Two I think.

  42. Ellie

    It seems everyone has gone to bed. Surely there are some still up wanting to debate?

  43. Ellie

    Link please, mh, so I can check for myself.

  44. Peter the old fossil

    Surely there are some still up wanting to debate?

    No, Lovely Lady, they have all gone to bed.
    We should too. Your bed or mine?

  45. mh

    Elle, nobody cares about the flu virus.

    That’s so last year.

  46. EvilElvis

    Bill Withers, brown bread.

    Ain’t no sunshine when he’s gone…

  47. Steve trickler

    Ellie
    #3391764, posted on April 4, 2020 at 1:33 am
    It seems everyone has gone to bed. Surely there are some still up wanting to debate?



  48. mh

    Not a lovely day. For Bill.

  49. EvilElvis

    Ellie, one of the guys posted this earlier today.

    Worldwide deaths this year to date:
    3,331,570
    Communicable disease deaths this year
    124,779
    Seasonal flu deaths this year
    1,950,701
    Deaths of children under 5 this year
    10,908,334
    Abortions this year
    79,323
    Deaths of mothers during birth this year
    41,684,018
    HIV/AIDS infected people
    431,420
    Deaths caused by HIV/AIDS this year
    2,107,728
    Deaths caused by cancer this year
    251,729
    Deaths caused by malaria this year
    Deaths from the chunk virus to this year to date:
    53146 

  50. Ellie

    Daylight savings ends this weekend

  51. mh

    Friday’s latest figures showed another 684 deaths in the United Kingdom, the biggest daily rise, with the toll now at 3,645.

    Expectation has been growing about when the head of state would make a public statement about the unprecedented events that have seen the country go into lockdown to combat the pandemic.

    Buckingham Palace said in a statement: “Her Majesty The Queen has recorded a special broadcast to the United Kingdom and the Commonwealth in relation to the coronavirus outbreak.

    “The televised address will be broadcast at 8pm on Sunday 5th April, 2020.

    “The address was recorded at Windsor Castle.”

    It is rare for the Queen to address the nation other than her annual Christmas Day message.

  52. Peter the old fossil

    Daylight savings ends this weekend

    Oh goodie – an extra hour together in bed.
    Which positions haven’t we tried recently?

  53. Ellie

    Friday night on the open forum. The coronavirus has impacted here and everywhere.

  54. egg_

    Friday’s latest figures showed another 684 deaths in the United Kingdom, the biggest daily rise, with the toll now at 3,645.

    London being a Global hub like NYC.

    How many in London?

  55. Ellie

    I need to post an address to the Nation tomorrow.

  56. egg_

    width is irrelevant

    1/8th Wang’s in luck!

  57. EvilElvis that was I believe from Rush Limbaugh who was responding to a caller. Was abortion mentioned?

  58. What will the address to the nation entail Ellie?

  59. egg_

    As anticipated, Econonuts, who’s anticipating a car purchase in today’s “climate”?

  60. EvilElvis

    I missed that, Black Ball. I ripped it off of mh or bespoke Friday morning. It’s pretty much a cut and paste from the Worldometer site.

  61. Doesn’t matter Elvis of Evil streak, the point stands. The histrionics surrounding this trumped up flu is nothing short of astounding.

  62. Very much enjoy Rick Stein. Besides his cooking skills, he delves into the history of the area he tours. I recall watching a show with his son cooking for a swanky group in Broome. Any Cats attend this?

  63. The topping contains potassium benzoate

  64. Drying clothes inside because of rain

  65. Pineapple can be used as pizza topping

  66. jupes

    Hey BB how boring is it without the footy?

  67. Scott Pendlebury is the best footballer in the league

  68. GD

    You’ve painted up your ship
    The girls have curled their tinted hair
    Ruby Princess are you contemplating
    Docking somewhere

    Juxtaposing Kenny Rogers’ demise with the Ruby Princess debacle.
    Well spotted.

  69. I do like however that Seven are showing classic matches.

  70. jupes

    I trialed Kayo for a couple of weeks (no fee) so I watched West Coast smash Melbourne but that was it. I have been watching replays of grand finals since but now I’ve put my subscription on hold until they play again.

    When is that by the way? Is it still 10 weeks or have they canned the season?

  71. nb

    Will Wuhan max out at the usual natural death rate?

  72. I think looking at May 31st for resumption.
    They had a Showdown match where Chaaaaaaad Wiiiinnnnnngard (HT Bruce McAveney) kicked 5 to get Port Adelaide over the line.

  73. jupes

    Scott Pendlebury is the best footballer in the league

    Yeah nah. He’s up there and been outstanding for years, however he has never been THE best at any point. Ablett, Fyfe, Dangerfield, Dusty etc.

    If I was picking a team now, I’d pick Nic Nat well before Pendles.

  74. bespoke

    Ellie
    #3391459, posted on April 3, 2020 at 9:16 pm
    Wish life was as great as bespoke says it is.

    Life is always good but only sometimes great see johanna’s perspective.

    johanna
    #3391508, posted on April 3, 2020 at 9:41 pm
    My plight is nothing like that of many thousands of people, losing their businesses and homes, all because less than 50 people have died of a bug.

    Just read some hear who are doing there best to keep there employees, the ones who had to close shop and many more displaying remarkable stoicism and humour for what they have gone though over the years. Look to them as what you’ll like to be even if you fail some times like me. Not the one’s taking advantage in some pathetic attempt for relevance.

    Evan though my youngest is in the first link in health care and my wife who recently lost her job for being sick for so long is now dedicating even more time to helping victims of crime. (I’m not talking about you) but I’m getting sick of hearing tin eared claims of being on the “frontline” “we are at war/ in it together” when they are clearly are not. Your job like mine as a husband and dad is to support those are doing the heavy lifting without fanfare or medals. This is how it should because if it was it would detract from the ones that are really doing it tuff. But I’m not saying the occasional venting of frustration is wrong just remember why. Take care

    PS: 1st 😎

  75. Nob

    Leak has been great last couple of days.

  76. Tom

    A very Melbourne cartoon by Mark Knight about an on-air stoush between Collingwood AFL president Ed Maguire and Nein stports reporter Tony Jones.

  77. bespoke

    egg_
    #3391812, posted on April 4, 2020 at 3:24 am

    Cheers for that, The Dr covered all basses including economic recovery.

  78. bespoke

    Evan though My youngest is in the first link in health care and my wife who recently lost her job for being sick for so long is now dedicating even more time to helping victims of crime. (I’m not talking about you) but So I’m getting sick of hearing tin eared claims of being on the “frontline” “we are at war/ in it together” when they are clearly are not.

    Fixed

  79. Ellie

    Good morning. I fell asleep on the couch.

  80. Ellie

    Black Ball – are you still up?

  81. Ellie

    Peter!! That was a rather inappropriate comment at 1:46am! Oy!

  82. The extent of the change in the view of the world held by our “conservatives” is mind boggling.
    We suddenly have a universal basic income scheme (by a different name), childcare has been nationalised, and they are talking to, and cooperating with, the union movement.
    Remarkable.
    Priorities always change when governments are mugged by reality, but this is extraordinary.
    It will be fascinating to see what we return to when it’s over.
    Laura Tingle has some thoughts –

    It was an extraordinary thing to do, a much needed and good thing to do in the circumstances. And it obviously represented a huge break in the thinking of a conservative government, just as completely refashioning the finances and support of the childcare sector required a complete break with its past views.

  83. Ellie

    Hello M0nty @ 12:44am. Hope you are doing ok. As the saying goes nowadays – stay safe, we will get through this.

  84. NoFixedAddress

    jellybean from the jungle

    how do you describe Australia’s system of Governance?

  85. Struth

    There are still some who are unsure if the state governments are acting unlawfully at border crossings.

    You don’t have to wait for legal advice to know if they are.
    They are.
    Your lawyers are nearly all dead set lefties and even if they are not, have a vested interest, for the very growth and therefore disputes of law to ignore it.
    You could count on one hand, the amount of times a lawyer has brought up the constitution in courts other than the high court, all around Australia, ever.

    The facts are the Commonwealth of Australia constitution over rides laws made by states that conflict with it.
    The Australian constitution is the law of the land above state law.
    Section 109 clearly states it.
    Section 117 gives you your answers regards interstate travel and the way you must be treated.
    And you must be treated exactly……EXACTLY the same as people who reside in that state.

    There is no emergency rule that can bypass our constitution.

    If they want to quarantine all coming into the state, they may have a right to do that.
    They have absolutely no right to pick and chose who they let in based on where they live in the commonwealth.
    They MUST subject every citizen of this country to the same laws.

    This of course is not being done.
    THIS MAKES THEM CRIMINALS.
    They are breaking the law.

    But, they have the guns, and not one, NOT ONE journalist will ever, or has ever, asked them under what law they are doing this.

    We are in a police state, rule by force of arms, locked down BY CRIMINALS.
    It is no exaggeration.
    It is that simple.

    I am no expert on state based legislation, and our constitution isn’t the greatest freedom ensuring bill of rights, however the common man can know exactly where he stands on certain issues.

    And our constitution over rides state law, and that is a fact.

  86. Ellie

    1735099 – I thought of Lara Bingle for some reason. That aside – the world we live in will never be the same again. Let’s embrace change. I think it’s exciting. Moving forward.

    re Bingle – where the bloody hell are you!

  87. The Israelis are imposing very strict controls, and at least one ultra-orthodox neighbourhood has been sealed.

    Across the country, people have been told to stay within a 100-metre (330 ft) radius of their homes; public gatherings have been banned; and anyone going outdoors has been told to cover their face with a mask or scarf.

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who is in voluntary self-isolation despite testing negative for the disease, has warned that further restrictions might be imposed to try to curb the spread of the virus.

    It seems that religious congregations are a strong vector – Iran – Korea – and now Israel.

  88. Struth

    There is nothing conservative about this government as you know from being here numbers.
    And then to try and tell us Tingle has thoughts of her own………………………

    Humour?

  89. how do you describe Australia’s system of Governance?

    Read all about it here.

  90. Peter the old fossil

    Ellie
    #3391846, posted on April 4, 2020 at 6:32 am

    Whatever you say, Lovely Lady.
    If you want us to stick with your favourite positions that’s fine by me.

  91. Your lawyers are nearly all dead set lefties and even if they are not, have a vested interest, for the very growth and therefore disputes of law to ignore it.

    Struth’s ever-increasing list of “dead set lefties” –
    Lawyers
    Police Commissioners
    The federal government
    All state governments (some more than others)
    Teachers
    Academics
    The medical profession
    The union movement
    Employer associations
    The ADF command structure
    The churches
    The judiciary
    The RSL
    There’s not much left…..

  92. And then to try and tell us Tingle has thoughts of her own………………………

    I forgot about journalists….

  93. Ellie

    Peter! Behave! It’s early. Tea is being consumed, not shiraz, darling.

  94. bespoke

    Monty’s saying the same thing with cheeky humour I can appreciate from a believer that has shown some humanity in the past. 1735099 is just being his usual spiteful vindictive self safe from any thong term future reproductions of what’s going on.

  95. Struth

    State governments must be challenged regarding discrimination based on place of residence within the commonwealth.
    Whether you think all of this police state rubbish is worth it or not, it is simply a fact that the dickhead Premier of QLD has decided that Queenslanders coming home from elsewhere cannot possibly have the virus, just people who live in other states.
    The Queensland registered vehicles are being waved through without even stopping.
    This is not quarantining, is it?

    Please write to Outsiders, who are all shitting themselves as well, to let them know of this.
    Pushback while it’s happening because you will not get a chance to when they cement this power grab.

  96. Mater

    We suddenly have a universal basic income scheme (by a different name), childcare has been nationalised, and they are talking to, and cooperating with, the union movement…
    It will be fascinating to see what we return to when it’s over.

    A mountain of debt and the mother of all recessions…which should be enough to convince a complete generation what a bad idea they are.

  97. any thong term future reproductions of what’s going on.

    Now that’s a very creative use of written English.
    Trouble is,I doubt anyone reading it has the faintest idea of what it means.

  98. Ellie

    Prince Charles is on the tele. Why is his face so red?

  99. bespoke

    🤣 You just can’t help your self silly little man, 1735099.

  100. Struth

    Struth’s ever-increasing list of “dead set lefties” –
    Lawyers
    Police Commissioners
    The federal government
    All state governments (some more than others)
    Teachers
    Academics
    The medical profession
    The union movement
    Employer associations
    The ADF command structure
    The churches
    The judiciary
    The RSL
    There’s not much left…..

    No there isn’t, and that’s why we find ourselves imprisoned in not only our country, not only our suburbs, but indeed our very homes.
    We call it the march through the institutions and it is very real.

    You forgot the media………….that’s a biggy.
    There may be one or two conservatives hiding in there somewhere, too scared to put their head above the parapet , so irrelevant, and marked never to be promoted.

    The conservatives were in the other industries the lefties just sacked them from.

  101. 2dogs

    The extent of the change in the view of the world held by our “conservatives” is mind boggling.

    If it boggles your mind, Numbers, could you possibly be charitable enough to admit that you may have misunderstood them? That political tribalism may have led you astray?

  102. duncanm

    Its almost a pity he was known for ‘lovely day’ –

    I feel he might be looking now

  103. Nob

    Lawyers profit from conflict therefore they have a vested interest in finding and promoting conflict.

    Lawyers I know concede this without hesitation.

  104. Tom

    Finally! Alan Joyce’s fag hag is going to be shafted. Paywallian:

    Pressure is growing for change at the top of Rugby Australia and its chief executive Raelene Castle is facing the sack.

    The Weekend Australian understands the attitude of the board towards Castle dramatically changed when three new figures joined earlier this week.

    On Monday Virgin Australia co-founder Brett Godfrey, Supercars chairman Peter Wiggs, and former Wallaby Daniel Herbert took their places on the RA board, which has a huge task on its hands as it faces a $120 million revenue black hole.

    They are said to have a “new perspective” on the way the game’s hierarchy has approached the management of the code which was in crisis even before COVID-19 — bleeding viewers, crowds and participation numbers at many levels of the code for some time.

    Wallabies great Phil Kearns has been mentioned as a possible replacement. When contacted by The Weekend Australian on Friday night Kearns said he had not been formally approached to be CEO — if the position became vacant. Kearns, however, said he would be interested to be part of Australian rugby’s future “if change is on the agenda”.

    Castle pipped Kearns for the position in 2017 but she has lost the support of some key rugby powerbrokers, especially after the organisation presented an unaudited 2019 annual report (with a $9.4 million loss) while trumpeting a “72 per cent” mark on their “internal scoreboard” at RA’s annual general meeting last Monday.

    The Weekend Australian understands the attitude of the Rugby Australia board towards Castle dramatically changed when three new figures joined earlier this week.

    On Monday Virgin Australia co-founder Brett Godfrey, Supercars chairman Peter Wiggs, and former Wallaby Daniel Herbert took their places on the RA board, which has a huge task on its hands as it faces a $120 million revenue black hole.

    They are said to have a “new perspective” on the way the game’s hierarchy has approached the management of the code which was in crisis even pre-COVID-19 — bleeding viewers, crowds and participation numbers at many levels of the code for some time.

    Castle was once comfortable with a majority support of the board in times of crisis including her handling of the Israel Folau saga — her backers including interim chair Paul McLean, who will step down no later than July 31. But sources say Castle has now lost the majority at RA board level.

    In recent days RA board member Pip Marlow, once a loyal Castle supporter, is understood to have drifted away from backing in the CEO to steer the game out of a financial nightmare.

    Castle has been criticised for her “poor judgment”, the key sticking point being her handling of rugby’s broadcast rights.

    Pre-COVID 19 Castle drew criticism after she walked away from Foxtel’s $40 million a year, five-year offer, for TV rights last November.

    Castle was pushing Foxtel for $100 million more.

    It has proved to be a catastrophic move by Castle and left rugby union as the only major football code without a TV deal next year and in turn no guarantee of revenue.

    Also concerning some rugby powerbrokers is RA’s treatment of the 192 professional players. The Weekend Australian has learnt RA asked the Rugby Union Players Association to defer payment to the players for a week. It was flatly refused.

    RUPA chief Justin Harrison and his association again blasted Castle and her organisation on Friday for failing to hand over key financial documents they wanted to see before agreeing to a pay cut.

    Over the past week Harrison repeatedly said RUPA had been left frustrated in their dealings with RA and have felt “shut out” by the organisation as they try to negotiate player pay cuts. The players are currently on full pay.

    They have also been disappointed by the limited time given to them by key RA executives including Castle.

    Meanwhile Rugby Australia said they had given RUPA all the evidence they needed during a 90-minute conference outlining details on Thursday.

    However, they did not allow RUPA to physically take the documents away so they could be analysed by their financial advisers.

    “The Rugby Union Players Association again emphasises the need for an open and collaborative approach from RA before we can properly understand our role in Australian rugby’s restructure, for both short and long-term transformation,” the RUPA statement said on Friday.

    “Our players approach this long-term transformation with a collegiate and team approach and with an acknowledgment the game has to change.

    “That is why RUPA is again respectfully requesting the financial data to fully digest before returning to the table for open and honest negotiations. We see no reasons why RA refuses to engage, despite the provision of protection under a non-disclosure agreement.”

    It’s not just the players who are finding RA’s approach difficult to deal with.

    A phone hook-up of state chairman to interim Rugby Australia chair McLean on Thursday was filled with frustration about the wretched position the game finds itself in and Castle’s ­management.

    A source told The Weekend Australian the coming “48 hours” would be very telling for Castle. “People are amazed she has hung on this long, everyone knows it has to come to an end soon,” said one insider.

    Rugby Australia may have to pay out six months of Castle’s contract. But considering the game is staring at $120m revenue black hole her payout looks to be a pittance.

    Earlier this week Castle indicated she will take a 50 per cent pay cut (she will now earn $400,000 a year) and stood down 100 of her fellow Rugby Australia staff members for three months.

    The Weekend Australian contacted Rugby Australia for comment on Castle’s position on Friday night.

  105. Peter the old fossil

    Oh very well, Lovely Lady.
    I’ll make a cuppa, put on my serious face, and get back to freedom fighting with Struth.
    Thanks for a wonderful night.

  106. Nob

    Bill Withers was a talented normal bloke with a proper job, no disco night gigolo.

    He really connected.

  107. Bruce of Newcastle

    Paywallian:

    Castle set to fall as key backers flip

    Former Wallaby Phil Kearns emerges as likely successor to Raelene Castle as pressure for change grows at Rugby Australia.

    And while you’re at it dump the Irishman and his rapidly depleting money, boot wokeness into touch and get back to rugby.

  108. Tom

    Who were the idiots who gave Raelene Castle the job running rugby in the first place? Blind Freddy oould have told you it was a disaster waiting to happen — lesbo affirmative action gone mad.

  109. Struth

    The banning of going to the footy by Chairman Mo, and his politburo , may yet be our savior.
    Seems this soft cock nation of apathy don’t get riled about much.
    Shafted by government, they bend over for more.
    Take the footy away over winter, FMD.
    I can’t possibly fathom that in Melbournistan, without there being blood in the streets.
    Maybe a fortnight into the season before civil war breaks out in the streets.

  110. Bruce of Newcastle

    Snap Tom! And thanks too for the bumper crop of cartoons, especially Leak’s chicken. Yesterday’s dead tree Tele had a long list of bogans being arrested for various heinous crimes against the quarantine rules. It was hilarious, but the fines probably weren’t.

  111. Ellie

    Nob (strange name) I really enjoyed Withers’ song ‘use me’. Great rhythm. Just listened to it twice while the shiraz … I mean tea was drawing.

  112. Struth

    Lawyers profit from conflict therefore they have a vested interest in finding and promoting conflict.

    Lawyers I know concede this without hesitation.

    Exactly, a clear cut constitutional case, they don’t want to know about.

  113. Peter the old fossil

    The banning of going to the footy by Chairman Mo,
    and his politburo , may yet be our savior.

    Good morning Struth.
    Now you’re getting the idea – this is a battle for hearts and minds – it can’t be won with guns.

  114. Ellie

    vr – thank you. Yes – may he RIP – 30 March 2020. Bless. X

  115. duncanm

    Nob
    #3391821, posted on April 4, 2020 at 5:44 am

    Leak has been great last couple of days.

    sure has. He’s really hitting his straps.

  116. Atoms for Peace

    If police raid a house ( internet rental ), and issue fines for breaching social distance guidelines, are the owners also on the hook for renting in the first place. ? Mates up the road do the air B and B thing, and their house was rocking the other day. I let them know and they were horrified as the purported rental was a young family requiring 2 nights ..

  117. Caveman

    Castle set to release the nude photos.

  118. Ellie

    I would like to make it official. I am no longer a fag hag. I have been discriminated against by the fags in the office. They can take a flying leap. How dare they tell me to go home because I live in a COVID-19 hot-spot – a hot spot for the virus. I supported them through the aids era, even though I was only 5. I supported them through the ‘yes’ era. They can take a flying leap. I sneeze on the activists 😤😤😤

  119. Struth

    Good morning Struth.
    Now you’re getting the idea – this is a battle for hearts and minds – it can’t be won with guns.

    There is also an urgency.
    Two weeks ago, it would have been easier than today, which will be easier than next month, which will be easier than next year, toshow resistance and call them to account, make them show their colours.

    I believe I’m a realist to know that they have only about half the population completely shitting themselves, and maybe 25% more unsure of anything and only just worked out who Sco Mo is and confused .

    That’s why it is a timing thing.
    Keyboard warring right now, to get people thinking about things, and waking the politically apathetic nation up right now is all we can do.
    I think (I hope) things start to change rather quickly as after Easter people will be virtue signalled out and reality bites.
    I’m hoping that’s what may be the case.

    The stories are flying everywhere.
    Around here, people who were not allowed to go to the pub, all went fishing.
    So they banned fishing.
    The lock down is so incredibly over the top, where people are being told to get off beaches that are otherwise deserted, how many people in your own home, you know Palaschook has lost her mind.
    The border fiasco to me right now is the major fight.
    Not the anzac day suggestion.
    I wanted to get, via facebook, people to understand, who were being turned away or deciding not to even try to cross a state border that legally they cannot be stopped.
    They are being stopped by criminals because John Howard took the guns away.

    That’s a fight that’s a clean cut constitutional one where I know I’m right having dealt with it often with oversize loads and transport generally.

    I’m hoping others with knowledge in other areas can bring out the illegality of what else they are doing, and remind everyone we have Rule of Law for a reason.

    I don’t need to talk about Anzac day yet, as it is three weeks away, and we’d need to see the mood of the nation then.
    Unlike you, however, I don’t believe it would take very long to organize, as there is nothing to organize.

    Like and share on facebook things go “viral” …………….
    But that is for another day.
    Right now I’m keyboard “warring” about the illegality of this imprisonment and discrimination based on residence.

  120. NoFixedAddress

    1735099
    #3391859, posted on April 4, 2020 at 6:50 am

    how do you describe Australia’s system of Governance?

    Read all about it here.

    What a surprise jellybean from the jungle /sarc

    You don’t have an original thought in your being and can only regurgitate communist talking points.

    Is it a Cuban ‘university’ that you are ‘doing’ your phd through?

  121. notafan

    Lol

    The Constitution.

    Take it to court.

    You’re an expert.

    Obviously.

  122. Mitch M.

    1735099
    #3391847, posted on April 4, 2020 at 6:34 am
    The extent of the change in the view of the world held by our “conservatives” is mind boggling.
    We suddenly have a universal basic income scheme (by a different name), childcare has been nationalised, and they are talking to, and cooperating with, the union movement.
    Remarkable.

    Let me explain it for you: the only true conservatives are on this blog. The rest of the country is almost entirely composed of morons, sheep, and lefties hell bent on world domination.

  123. Struth

    When I put the post up on facebook, it was immediately liked by my male friends from trucking mostly.

    There were some that liked it from the tour driving side of things.

    All were men.
    Except of course for Mrs Struth, who I made “like” it.

    The fear is noticable.
    It’s not a fear of the virus.
    It’s a fear of the government, already.
    “No I won’t associate myself with that, even if I agree”
    That’s what will kill us.

  124. Struth

    Lol

    The Constitution.

    Take it to court.

    You’re an expert.

    Obviously.

    Good morning to you as well.

  125. rickw

    Control tower thank you to AN-124 landing at Kennedy loaded with medical supplies:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6GPhZbwMCEc

  126. Entropy

    Earlier this week Castle indicated she will take a 50 per cent pay cut (she will now earn $400,000 a year) and stood down 100 of her fellow Rugby Australia staff members for three months.

    How the hell is it possible for RA to have built an empire so large it has a CEO on $800k a year to promote wokeness rather than the game, and is able to employ 100 people altogether, let alone still function while laying off 100 staff.
    I would have thought about 25 staff tops, with many functions at the club level.

  127. NoFixedAddress

    And then they came for the home gardeners.

    Vermont Decrees Home Farming “Non Essential”, Forbids The Selling of Seeds
    Posted on April 2, 2020 by sundance

    Comrades, the administrative state will take care of all your food needs. There is no reason to be self-sufficient in the production of food products. As a result Vermont has designated the selling of seeds as “non-essential” and blocked from purchase:

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/04/02/vermont-decrees-home-farming-non-essential-forbids-the-selling-of-seeds/

  128. bespoke

    No matter how much compassion or pity you have for a leper you don’t let them walk the streets infecting others.

  129. notafan

    Well then.

    Facebook likes

    More lol.

  130. Struth

    TOTALLY UNCONSTITUTIONAL therefore criminal.

    If you are a Queenslander with or without Coronavirus you will be waved straight through the newly formed state checkpoints, allowed into QLD, while those free of the disease but do not reside in Queensland are banned from an entire state of a nation they pay taxes to and are sovereign owners in law, and where, for just one example, their sick parents live and are now unable to be visited and who are dying of other causes, alone,unless special permission is granted.
    The government of Queensland are discriminating against Australian citizens, not because of a virus, as this is no quarantine measure, obviously.
    They are discriminating against people based on where they live in the commonwealth.
    This is in direct violation of the superior rule of law of this nation, section 117 of the Australian Constitution.
    Section117
    A subject of the Queen, resident in any State, shall not be subject in any other State to ANY DISABILITY OR DISCRIMINATION which would not be equally applicable to him if he were a subject of the Queen resident in such other State.
    Section 109 of the constitution states clearly that when state laws are inconsistent with the Commonwealth law, they are invalid, in other words, the QLD government are criminals operating outside the rule of Law.
    Remember, ignorance of the Law is no excuse.
    Especially when most in our parliaments are ex lawyers.
    There is no higher Law than our Constitution.
    It is final and cannot be changed without referendum.

    We have laws for a reason.
    RUOK with this?
    Once rule of Law is abandoned, and you let it happen, you, unarmed, will be ruled by the point of a gun.
    This will kill and cause misery far worse than the coronavirus ever will.
    The Qld state Premier is in a state of Hysterics and does not know whether people will be fined to sit or stand on an empty beach, or even be there.
    She has actually stated that you may walk on the beach, but quickly go home, sunbaking is not allowed.
    Seriously.
    On an empty beach.
    Do you trust your life in the hands of these hysterical morons?
    Do you trust your nation in the hands of these hysterical morons?
    Do you trust their reactions to the coronavirus?

    We have the rule of Law for a reason.

    No one is above it, and if just one places themselves above it, we all lose it.
    Then you may actually get a real body count and not just an infection tally meant to scare you.

    ………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………

    Please post my new updated rant anywhere you can.
    copy and paste.
    Or do your own.
    Is there someone else’s I can copy?

  131. NoFixedAddress

    from sundance in that gardening post above

    We The People, perhaps as a group who have taken some basic precepts of freedom and liberty for granted, would be wise to look at what is taking place within the big picture.

    Various government officials and interests of the state are taking advantage of the current crisis to test how far they can pull the levers of control. Perhaps you do not garden; perhaps you never purchase seeds; perhaps you do not grow your own food; that’s not really the issue here…. stopping your ability to do so should alarm everyone.

    First they told you not to leave home except for essential services. Now they tell you what those services are; and in doing so they define and limit access to products, thereby controlling your behavior to permit only those activities approved by the state.

    Freedom is a tenuous proposition; take nothing for granted.

    Eyes wide open.

  132. notafan

    Thanks for the video Rick.

    Be watching that death metre tick over the next couple of weeks.

    US had 34,000 flu deaths last year.

    Of course the keyboard heroes will be screaming Lies! Lies! Lefties! Lies! (But using 1000 words at a time)

    Also those stats.

    Abortion and maternal deaths were reversed.

    Which should have been extremely obvious.

  133. Ellie

    Will Prince Charles be an efficient King?

  134. Ellie

    Can he ever be? He’s married to a Catholic!

  135. calli

    I’m struggling to understand why seed sales would be forbidden, particularly when coming into the NH’s narrow window for sowing summer crops.

    Also, I’m weary of news services claiming NYC is the “epicentre” of Covid-19. If we are going to use seismic terms, then Wuhan is the epicentre. The shock waves have simply reached NYC.

  136. notafan

    Camilla Parker Bowles is Anglican.

  137. Struth

    Will you post my rant Notafan?
    he he………………………..
    You’re on facebook aren’t you?

  138. notafan

    I’d be embarassed to post such hysterical nonsense.

    Seriously.

  139. Twostix

    Vermont Decrees Home Farming “Non Essential”, Forbids The Selling of Seeds…

    Somewhere in Vermont right now there is a BorisG, a numbers sneering and lecturing to people protesting that this is necessary and good.

    For these people this stopped being about the virus two weeks ago.

  140. Struth

    I’d be embarassed to post such hysterical nonsense.

    Seriously.

    Of course.

  141. DrBeauGan

    Struth, to a depressingly large number of women, the constitution is obsolete. It dates from a time when men looked after women and children. They protected them from the (very few) bad guys, from the harshness of the world, and from their own ignorance and stupidity.

    Now the women have discovered that they don’t need men. The government will look after them. And the government is only too happy to do so. For a price.

    The price is freedom, and most women and a large number of men think it’s a good deal. You don’t, I don’t, but we’re in a minority.

  142. Twostix

    Hands up who seriously thinks the government can put us under house arrest for six months.

    I want to see these people.

  143. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Bar Beach Swimmer
    #3391926, posted on April 4, 2020 at 8:09 am
    Where is everyone? Usually, it takes me a fair amount of time to read to the bottom of the thread! Are you all alright????

    Posting this to get you answering…

    https://youtu.be/XKElk9zTB04

    Now that was very embarrassing; I was talking to myself on the OT and getting mightily concerned that none of you were anywhere to be found; so I posted a msg.

  144. Twostix

    Normally I’d cut and paste a particularly ridiculous paragraph or sentence. But every single sentence in this article about the uproar over the NZ health minister going for a bike ride is literally insane.

  145. duncanm

    I keep coming back to an Orwell quote. Still not sure what I think of it wrt. our current situation.

    The choice for mankind lies between freedom and happiness and for the great bulk of mankind, happiness is better.

  146. Mater

    Struth,
    Do a post about how Hitler was gifted dictatorial power, over and above the German constitution, by causing panic and hysteria.

    Having explained this to a couple of people over the last week, it’s clear that our education system has been deficient (quelle surprise). You can almost see the light bulbs flicker.

    The left have been using “Hitler” to tarnish the right for years. Turn it around on them. And, yes, I’ve already posted such things on FB, in response to hysterical (and dangerous) ideas. It works.

  147. duncanm

    Twostix
    #3391938, posted on April 4, 2020 at 8:24 am

    Hands up who seriously thinks the government can put us under house arrest for six months.

    exactly.

    Start by defining ‘exercise’ for me.

  148. Twostix

    Note what’s happening there. It’s not that he went out – it’s that bike riding is a little bit risky.

    Risky thing are banned.

    It’s like the Nanny state suddenly went senile. We’re all in danger from her.

  149. DrBeauGan

    bespoke
    #3391918, posted on April 4, 2020 at 8:00 am

    No matter how much compassion or pity you have for a leper you don’t let them walk the streets infecting others.

    The same applies to fuckwits, bespoke.

  150. OldOzzie

    Coronavirus pay cuts: This may make you very, very angry

    Adam Creighton
    Economics Editor

    “We will get through this together … it’s no longer about entitlement, it’s about need,” Scott Morrison said on Thursday, in one of his almost daily briefings to the ­nation on the coronavirus crisis.

    These are fine sentiments, but they clearly defy reality. Public sector workers are not suffering nearly to the same extent as those in the private sector, who ultim­ately pay their wages.

    The destruction of millions of jobs and businesses that is now well in train will expose the extraordinarily high pay and conditions of the nation’s top public servants, state and federal, that typically leave foreigners and members of the public speechless.

    In NSW alone, just one state, more than 3200 senior executives, none of them “frontline” staff, are paid between $200,000 and $500,000 a year. Victorian Premier Dan Andrews’s salary is set to rise by $47,000 to $441,000 in July, while backbenchers’ base salaries are set to rise by almost $20,000 to $182,400.

    Not much sharing of the burden there. So far, the jobless are concentrated overwhelmingly among the young and lower-paid, but as household and business spending collapses, soon professionals will face big pay cuts too. Barely a fortnight into the shutdown, law and consulting firms are reducing and announcing lay-offs.

    Asked on Thursday whether senior federal public servants and senior MPs might experience a pay cut as a way of sharing the ­burden, the Prime Minister said: “We’ve put the freezes in place.”

    Forgoing a 2 per cent July ­increase on already enormous salaries is a scene from a Monty Python skit. The 3240-strong Senior Executive Service, for instance, will be keeping their $238,000-to-$453,000 salaries, not to mention the thousands of officials in federal and state regulators who earn at least as much.

    Whatever the merits of the range of the extraordinary impositions on personal freedoms and ­future taxpayers, state and federal public servants, and the politicians who oversee them, should share some of the pain, especially since it’s government that has caused the economic collapse.

    Oliver Lamb, whose business, Ailevon Pacific Aviation Consulting, has been severely affected by the restrictions, and who has just recovered from the coronavirus, said: “Leaders need to show by example that they are making sacri­fices themselves.”

    How much, though, is fraught. Many public servants, especially the senior ones, are working harder than they ever have. Understandably, frontline medical staff would demand exemptions.

    Meanwhile, the pay of the ­judiciary — which is doing very little given that the courts are shut — can’t be cut at all under the Constitution. Moreover, in a crisis, ministers don’t want a disgruntled bureaucracy. In 1931, Britain cut public ­sector pay by 10 per cent, and the navy began to mutiny.

    Some corporate executives will voluntarily take cuts; others won’t. Also, some businesses will make a killing out of the crisis — manufacturers of certain medical devices, for instance. Is it morally wrong to profit from a tragedy?

    Perhaps a temporary higher rate of income tax cutting is the cleanest solution.

    During the Depression, the Scullin government cut public sector pay by 20 per cent.

    A uniform cut would seem draconian, causing real pain for the 100,000-odd junior federal public servants, for instance (who earn less than $100,000), and perhaps also for the 42,000 executives overseeing them (who earn between $130,000 and $175,000).

    For the 30-odd department secretaries and agency leaders, though, on $700,000-plus, it would be bearable.

    Whatever the ethical difficulties, if the economic downturn ­endures, the gap between public affluence and private squalor will grow, forcing politicians’ hands.

    Queensland Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk froze a scheduled 2.5 per cent pay rise for Queensland public servants this week.

    Perhaps the crisis will foster reform of pay relativities within the public sector itself. Australia’s departmental secretaries and agency heads, for instance, are the highest paid in the developed world, according to a 2015 OECD study, earning roughly double their counterparts in 28 other developed countries. And they’ve increased a lot since then.

    The pay of taxpayer-funded political staff, around 1700 strong across states and federal government, is also gobsmacking, where advisers in their late 20s often earn $180,000-plus.

    Other measures might include the cessation of indexing parliamentary and public servant defined benefit pensions, which might be means-tested, making ­lucrative board and advisory roles a bit less so.

    Ultimately, what the government can pay depends on our prosperity. If tax revenues evaporate and debt mounts, some bureaucrats will be sacked and pay will be trimmed commensurately. The president of Argentina, once as rich as Australia, doesn’t earn a sixth of the Prime Minister’s $550,000 a year.

    Indeed, this process is about to ricochet through universities, whose swollen ranks of highly paid administrators and quasi-­academics won’t be so affordable without billions in revenue from Chinese students. Vice-chancellors may struggle to keep their $1m pay cheques.

    Whatever happens, the crisis will change how young jobseekers weigh up their options. As in France, more of the best and brightest will aim for public rather than private sector jobs, with the attendant impact on innovation and economic growth.

    It will provoke deeper thought about the value of work, too. The modern economy is teeming with highly paid roles, famously termed “bullshit jobs” by anthropologist David Graeber, which add little inherent value. In economies dominated by public and private bureaucracy, the idea of workers being paid their “marginal product of labour” — the neat concept in economics textbooks — is more and more a fairytale.

    It’s still too early to expect politicians to force pay cuts on themselves and their senior officials. The drip feed of horrific economic statistics hasn’t begun yet, providing rhetorical backing to the disaster facing millions of Australians, whose businesses and livelihoods have been turned upside down in just a couple of weeks.

    To be fair, any changes to public sector pay will do little to dent the $500bn of extra debt state and federal governments are set to take on. Cash wages and salaries of the entire commonwealth public sector amount to about $23bn a year, in an annual budget approaching $500bn. But morality will always trump economics in public debate.

  151. Struth

    The price is freedom, and most women and a large number of men think it’s a good deal. You don’t, I don’t, but we’re in a minority.

    I get that Dr B, and use notafan to point out that even right wing women don’t get it because they never invented it, and took it for granted.
    Notafan, usually good on most things, falls down here badly, and her ease in being submissive, is a female thing that , nationally is something to take note of.
    When we talk of the feminisation of a nation, and that the fact that there would not be a left wing government in the west without the female vote, you cannot deny it is an issue.
    One that we expose in even women like Notafan.
    We can’t ignore it, as we must realize the enemy we fight.
    So I fight it, by exposing it.
    Notafan will not see it, and wave it away as being hysterical, these men just get so excited about having their freedom taken from them for their own good.
    Bloody idiots they are.
    They also tend to believe all the government tells them, even the likes of Notafan, and dismisses all who question, even when Italy has been exposed, it hasn’t!!!!
    Calli hopped on the bus for a bit, then came to her senses, and the only real Maggie Thatchers we have here are Cassie from Sydney and whether you like her or not, Johanna.
    And Lizzie’s great, because she doesn’t want to be a man, far from it.

  152. Ellie

    The crops are failing. We need water. Can someone in Melbourne please filter it out of your weird state.

  153. EvilElvis

    Scott Pendlebury is the best footballer in the league

    Black Ball, from 2.32am this morning you were on man, almost prophetic, it was beautiful. Until you went there, man. Messiah to full retard in about 15 minutes. Never go full retard. 😂

  154. Tintalrella di Luna

    Coronavirus pay cuts: This may make you very, very angry

    All people are people are equal but some are more equal than others – covers it I think.

  155. OldOzzie

    New normal cannot be this Whitlamesque freak show

    The Australian Editorial

    Last May, voters rejected the statist, welfare-all-around, social-engineering, aspiration-killing, emissions-busting manifesto Bill Shorten was proposing. So here we are, fighting the coronavirus by putting a $2 trillion economy into suspended animation. Australia is being transformed before our eyes. Measures unthinkable weeks ago are flashing past, day by day, as Scott Morrison is doing “whatever it takes” to “save lives and livelihoods”. This week’s $130bn wage-subsidy plan certainly had a wow factor. The $1500 JobSeeker payment goes to employers who keep employees on their books; it is expected to last for six months, preserving six million jobs. The Prime Minister has essentially nationalised half of the country’s private payroll. Socialist-lite Mr Shorten, eat your heart out.

    That third survival package follows what now look like fiscal baby steps of $17.6bn and $66.1bn. That’s a $214bn bill in 18 days, without counting $2.4bn on health spending for pop-up COVID-19 testing clinics and hospital stays; $1.1bn for mental health, telehealth services and domestic violence support; and $3bn for free childcare for almost one million families. In a normal year, Josh Frydenberg spends just under $500bn. The nominally conservative, small-government, low-tax side of politics is building a welfare state on a vast scale, benevolently taking over sectors such as childcare and private hospitals. Not surprisingly, rent-seekers, grifters and failing enterprises are popping out of every crevice, let alone the chasm that has swallowed tourism, hospitality and education. Virgin Australia, battered not just by travel bans, wants a $1.4bn bailout. The Morrison government told the airline to milk its shareholders for an emergency capital injection.

    Facing a health and economic crisis without precedent, we are creating a burden of deficits and ballooning debt. Sure, money is cheap, especially for government borrowers. But there is an opportunity cost for the $500bn bill Canberra and the states are likely to carry when COVID-19 has been tamed. The burden of repaying debt will fall on young workers and those still learning. Mr Morrison has said 2020 will be for most Australians the worst year of their lives. He insists these are temporary, targeted and proportionate measures. We take him at his word when he claims the spending tap will be turned off pronto, calling it a “snap-back” to pre-existing welfare arrangements. But the Prime Minister has not yet sketched out benchmarks, such as the number of infections, that will signal it’s time to take a frail economy out of hibernation.

    One of the follies coming out of this crisis is the idea governments have all the answers. We acknowledge the state has a central role in setting the rules of the game when markets fail, delivering basic services and providing a decent safety net for folks thrust into hardship. Government can do a lot, but it can’t do it all. Society functions best when government steps aside, allowing free enterprise and individuals to flourish. A nation where everyone gets a cheque from Canberra or where our elected representatives and officials control the commanding heights of capitalism is on the road to penury. We freed ourselves from this moribund state paternalism when Bob Hawke, Paul Keating, John Howard and Peter Costello opened the nation to competition and harnessed an aspirational ethos: to start businesses, build wealth and be self-reliant.

    There will be some who see this momentary neo-Whitlamist fiscal freak show as the dawn of a new politics, where big government rules. It’s true the co-operation and co-ordination of national cabinet is superior on urgent matters compared with the clunky Council of Australian Governments format. Mr Morrison is fond of saying there are no red and blue teams in this new grouping of leaders. Perhaps one benefit from this crisis will be a renewed focus on what’s important. Voter trust in our democracy has plummeted during a dysfunctional decade of hyper-partisanship, internal party disorder, obsession with niche rights and legislative gridlock. COVID-19 and its aftermath of high debt, social anxiety, and economic fragility will demand the political class turn its attention to basic problem-solving and long-term preparedness — on national security, vital infrastructure, manufacturing capability, sustainability and prosperity.

    Centre-right parties, as they seek to redefine their purpose, must be careful not to embrace the false, if voguish, saviour complex. Australia has to pay its way and earn its living in the world. This is not preordained. Mr Morrison must remember why voters rejected Shortenomics: there is no fiscal magic pudding and certainly no short-cut Pavlova Magic for puffing up wages by decree. Higher living standards depend on a dynamic, high-performance economy. In time, Mr Morrison’s exit strategy must be based on revivifying the private economy, not on half-baked progressive new deals. It means taking the shackles off all our companies — reducing taxes, red tape and workplace restrictions — and encouraging them to invest, be innovative and employ and train people. COVID-19 has turned life upside down. The fiscal response is not a permanent condition. The state may be your mate now. When this crisis passes, let’s get back on our own feet.

  156. duncanm

    A smart TV programmer would be putting on a run of the following movies. Feel free to add your favourite

    – V for vendetta
    – 1984
    – District 9
    – Total Recall
    – Metropolis
    – Brazil
    – Idiocracy

  157. Cassie of Sydney

    @How the hell is it possible for RA to have built an empire so large it has a CEO on $800k a year to promote wokeness rather than the game, and is able to employ 100 people altogether, let alone still function while laying off 100 staff.
    I would have thought about 25 staff tops, with many functions at the club [email protected]

    This same scenario….of top heavy corporate management on obscene salaries, is applicable to all the major sporting bodies in this country….NFL, RFL, TA…..they have become cesspits of corporate wokism…but RA probably takes the cake and they have left grass roots rugby to flounder…..far easier to focus on “inclusiveness” and “diversity” than promoting the sport among children and in schools.

  158. Twostix

    I received an email about this all from my MP.

    It seem we don’t have a federal or state government any more.

    We have a National Cabinet that runs the country now.

    E.g:

    National Cabinet has agreed to limit both indoor and outdoor gatherings to no more than 2 persons.

    How do we vote out this National Cabinet?

    How does it decide what is law and what is not? Does it vote? Is it a bare majority or 2/3 majority? Who stood on what side of each issue? What stops one or two people dominating it?

  159. Cassie of Sydney

    “Tintalrella di Luna
    #3391951, posted on April 4, 2020 at 8:35 am
    Coronavirus pay cuts: This may make you very, very angry

    All people are people are equal but some are more equal than others – covers it I think.”

    Especially “their ABC” Tinta.

  160. bespoke

    DrBeauGan
    #3391946, posted on April 4, 2020 at 8:31 am
    bespoke
    #3391918, posted on April 4, 2020 at 8:00 am

    No matter how much compassion or pity you have for a leper you don’t let them walk the streets infecting others.

    The same applies to fuckwits, bespoke.

    But who are they? Are you adopting ANTIFA ideals? I’m not, I’m just saying those with obvious mental heath issues should be sent home permanently so others can get on with the job.

  161. Bear Necessities

    Scott P the best in AFL? Very Dusty analysis that.

  162. Struth

    The left have been using “Hitler” to tarnish the right for years. Turn it around on them. And, yes, I’ve already posted such things on FB, in response to hysterical (and dangerous) ideas. It works.

    I’ll copy and paste what you have said, and if I change it around a bit, I’ll show you what I’ve done.
    That’s the shit we should be doing here.
    Keyboard warring is a thing that can work outside of here, as I don’t reckon too many people come here.
    This is almost a private little fight club.

  163. duncanm

    How the hell is it possible for RA to have built an empire so large it has a CEO on $800k a year

    The answer is, it didn’t.

    The grass roots (volunteers, fans, amateur players &etc) built the foundations for that empire over many many years. It’s taken RA less than a decade to hollow that out. Same goes for many other sports.

  164. OldOzzie

    Message from Woolworths CEO

    Dear Customer,

    It’s only 6 weeks since we saw the first wave of surge buying in our stores, following the reports from Northern Italy. So, I now wanted to give you an update on some of the questions I’m hearing most from you, and even from my own family.

    When will you be back to normal on toilet paper, pasta, wipes and other products?
    Amazing as it might seem, we are still seeing almost double our normal demand for toilet paper. Just this week, that was over 20.5 million rolls. So despite much more stock coming in, we’re still not where we need to be. It is slowly improving, but please help everyone by only buying what you need.

    With pasta, we have an extra 1,000 pallets a week coming in, which is more than half a million extra packs. It will still be patchy for a while, but we are expecting much more stock on shelves next week.

    We’re doing our best to keep up with the extraordinary demand for cleaning wipes, including securing extra supply from alternative sources in the short term, much of which will start to arrive in stores in the coming weeks.

    And an interesting fact. Two of our highest growth categories this week have been cake mixes and household cleaning products. A lot more kids are baking and parents cleaning as we all spend more time at home.

    How are you making shopping as safe as possible, and why aren’t all of your team wearing gloves and masks?

    We’ve put many new measures in place to help make our stores a safer place to shop, many as a direct result of feedback from store teams and customers. These include:

    . A store greeter wiping down basket and trolley handles as you enter
    . Asking customers to keep 1.5m between each other in store
    . New Plexiglass screens across our staffed checkouts
    . Packing your own bags at the checkout
    . Our checkout team now rotate every 2 hours to limit face-to-face interaction
    . A significant increase in cleaning of ‘high touch’ surfaces and daily deep cleaning
    . And coming next week, more focus on managing the number of customers in our stores

    The current guidance from the Department of Health is that it’s not necessary for our teams to wear masks and gloves in store. However, we know that many of our team feel more comfortable wearing gloves, so we are providing them as an option if they choose.

    When will online Delivery and Pick up come back?
    And when will you clear the long wait for Priority Assistance?

    We are making good progress reactivating home delivery, area by area. We’re hoping to have all areas operational immediately after Easter.

    The number of Priority Delivery Hubs will go from 50 to over 200 by the end of this weekend. Some of these stores have reduced opening hours to allow us to provide thousands of extra delivery windows a week.

    From Monday, Priority Assistance Partner Pick Up will start to be available, allowing customers to place an order online for someone to pick up on their behalf. That will be in more than 100 stores for drive-thru and 600 stores at the service desk.

    We’ve delivered thousands of the Woolworths Basics Box to help the growing number of people in self isolation. They are already in NSW, ACT, VIC, SA and TAS with more states rolling out shortly.

    Our customer care team has now doubled in size and we are answering 60% more calls than we were last week. And whilst the average phone wait time for Priority Assistance home delivery is still too long at 27 minutes, it is coming down rapidly with more people on our team to support you.

    Most importantly, is Easter still coming this year?

    That’s the easy one, yes it is. Easter at home will be different this year, but you should still be able to get your Easter favourites at Woolworths.

    In summary, we are making progress. In partnership with our customers, the broader industry and State, Territory and Federal Governments, we are getting a little better every day.

    Stay Safe

    Brad Banducci
    CEO
    Woolworths Group

  165. Farmer Gez

    For the good news.

    Huge swathes of NSW and Victoria received heavy rainfall overnight of 25mm+. On top of recent rain the country is primed for a big season of cropping and abundant feed for stock.

    This rain will be a huge help in keeping the regional towns pumping along.
    Grain and stock prices are excellent as the western world learns to value food above trivialities.

  166. 132andBush

    NoFixedAddress
    #3391922, posted on April 4, 2020 at 8:05 am

    from sundance in that gardening post above

    We The People, perhaps as a group who have taken some basic precepts of freedom and liberty for granted, would be wise to look at what is taking place within the big picture.

    Various government officials and interests of the state are taking advantage of the current crisis to test how far they can pull the levers of control. Perhaps you do not garden; perhaps you never purchase seeds; perhaps you do not grow your own food; that’s not really the issue here…. stopping your ability to do so should alarm everyone.

    First they told you not to leave home except for essential services. Now they tell you what those services are; and in doing so they define and limit access to products, thereby controlling your behavior to permit only those activities approved by the state.

    Freedom is a tenuous proposition; take nothing for granted.

    Eyes wide open.

    Like I said a couple of OTee’s ago, its’ our Coronavirus Bill of Rights.

  167. EvilElvis

    It’s not that he went out – it’s that bike riding is a little bit risky.

    I’ve been having this fight on a few motorbike related Facebook pages. Plenty of virtuous numpties posting stay at home shite for the benefit of the overwhelmed health service. When it’s pointed out that it’s a bullshit premise that all or most hospitals are overwhelmed but are almost in holiday mode well, Italy gets thrown up and the post has almost to a man been memory holed. It’s funny how the supposed tough guys roll over. Especially when with a bit of thought and personal responsibility you can do most things in life quite safely. Unfortunately your government and most people you know, irrationally don’t trust you.

  168. Megan

    I’m also in that minority of women wanting to protect our freedom. Freedom is never free and a couple of generations of Australians who never asked themselves what they could do for their country but instead demanded their country to do stuff for them are about to find out exactly what that means.

  169. calli

    I do hope he wore a helmet. ☠️

  170. Boambee John

    Mater

    Do a post about how Hitler was gifted dictatorial power, over and above the German constitution, by causing panic and hysteria.

    And petty fascists like m0nty and the seagull are quite happy with this, because they see it as a means of implementing policies they favour, that they know would never be accepted at an election.

  171. DrBeauGan

    My Cuban business is frozen. DHL have suspended shipments from Cuba because of the crisis. Osvel now has no income from his taxi business too. It’s pretty grim there.

  172. Twostix

    . In time, Mr Morrison’s exit strategy must be based on revivifying the private economy, not on half-baked progressive new deals. It means taking the shackles off all our companies — reducing taxes, red tape and workplace restrictions — and encouraging them to invest, be innovative and employ and train people

    Cuck weaksauce at the critical moment as always.

    They don’t dare ask to see how Morrison is going to abolish free daycare, halve newstart, in six or twelve months, etc.

    That’s because they already know the answer: these things, all of this is forever.

    So as is usual they meekly mumble “Please sir, can we have a corporate tax cut?”.

    Corpacucks!

  173. Cassie of Sydney

    “Megan
    #3391966, posted on April 4, 2020 at 8:49 am
    I’m also in that minority of women wanting to protect our freedom. Freedom is never free and a couple of generations of Australians who never asked themselves what they could do for their country but instead demanded their country to do stuff for them are about to find out exactly what that means
    .”

    I am with you Megan…and we have to fight for our freedoms.

  174. 132andBush

    45mm here.
    Will start sowing on the 15th with a full profile as opposed to the last couple of years of dry plantings.

    Can’t source Glyphosate and have just enough for one more pass. Pre emergent chemical ordered nearly two months ago still has no ETA.

  175. Where’s my strike through tab?
    Has some bastard swiped it?
    Only have bold italic link quote.
    And I want colours – a tab – not a four week programming course.
    And a pony.

  176. calli

    Calli hopped on the bus for a bit, then came to her senses, and the only real Maggie Thatchers we have here are Cassie from Sydney and whether you like her or not, Johanna.

    Stop lying about me. It’s getting very lame and tedious.

    I ask questions and mull over things “out loud”, just like you. Any “bus” I might hop on comes after a lot of thinking and pondering and sifting.

    It seems that, unless I am in lockstep immediately with any pov you might hold I am your enemy. Srr was exactly the same.

    Grow up.

  177. Struth

    What do people know about this new dictatorship body, the National Cabinet.

    What constitutional right do they have to make Law By decree?

  178. Megan

    In time, Mr Morrison’s exit strategy must be based on revivifying the private economy, not on half-baked progressive new deals. It means taking the shackles off all our companies — reducing taxes, red tape and workplace restrictions — and encouraging them to invest, be innovative and employ and train people.

    Ohohoho! As if. No politician, State or Federal, had any sort of plan going into this and now you want us to believe they are capable of even contemplating an exit strategy. I’d laugh but the consequences of sleepwalking tbrough this practical demonstration of overweening government incompetence are terrifying.

  179. 132andBush

    My Cuban business is frozen. DHL have suspended shipments from Cuba because of the crisis. Osvel now has no income from his taxi business too. It’s pretty grim there.

    Is the government in Cuba providing assistance to the Osvels of the country?

    Asking on behalf of another Cat poster who may be too frightened to.

  180. Bruce of Newcastle

    Daniel Greenfield has a wonderful take on the Venezuelan warship which managed to sink itself.

  181. Mater

    I just had a former senior Victorian cop text this to me, along with the link.

    “We have fucking lost our minds. The police in this video should hang their heads in shame. What a fucking joke.”

    https://youtu.be/EcjyQm2KRnE

  182. bespoke

    How not to win hearts and minds.

  183. OldOzzie

    The working class of Australia has a message for Albanese: it’s jobs, stupid

    Janet Albrechtsen

    Last October, deputy Labor leader Richard Marles admitted that working-class voters had turned away from the Labor Party at the election in May last year because then leader Bill Shorten offered them “handouts rather than hope”.

    Fast forward six months, and not much has changed. Labor has another leader who prefers the language of handouts to human dignity and hope, a leader who is pushing the Morrison government for even tighter restrictions on the economy that will kill more jobs and shut down more businesses, causing greater devastation to people’s lives and livelihoods. Australian workers deserved better than Shorten. And now many might be asking if they deserve better than Anthony Albanese too.

    There was a time when a Labor leader would have said this during the current crisis: “Now if you ask me who is an essential worker? Someone who has a job. Everyone who has a job in this economy is an essential worker.”

    So here is another chapter in the existential battle within Labor, between a clique of university-­educated “progressives” versus Labor’s traditional working-class base. Given the choice between these two sides during a monumental crisis, Labor under Albanese has sided with its inner-city voting bloc.

    When Albanese says “I absolutely support stricter shutdowns”, that is the preferred view of people who have not and will not lose their jobs during this pandemic. Many of these same people may not even have any friends who have lost their livelihoods and the dignity that comes from having a job. Just as with climate policy, where Labor’s inner-city left flank can afford higher energy bills and is employed in service industries rather than mining or manufacturing, their financial pressure points when dealing with COVID-19 are far removed from working Australians.

    Taken at face value, Albanese’s demand that the Morrison government must go harder and faster must mean a more severe lockdown of the economy. That will hurt working-class Australians. It will add more jobs and businesses to the economic scrapheap. Many businesses, built from years of hard work by small business owners and their employees, will never reopen. And many of the businesses that do manage to reopen will have fewer workers to match half their former size.

    Does going harder and faster mean shutting down construction or manufacturing jobs? What about steel workers? Mining? These are the acid tests for Labor. Just as voters identified Labor’s forked tongue at the last election over climate change, without Labor clearly describing an honest and clear landing place over COVID-19, the opposition is ­simply posturing.

    Albanese’s position is not just politically reckless after the last election; it is unconscionable. But this is a vintage Labor trick. A trick that has bombed before when Shorten settled on an uncosted policy of cutting emissions by 45 per cent on 2005 levels by 2030 and pretended to be pro-coal at the same time.

    Back in October, Marles explained the need for a new direction for Labor by recounting an encounter with one particular voter. “A third-generation coal­miner who was Labor born and raised, through and through, told me of his inner angst at what would normally be a matter-of-fact putting a “1” in the Labor square,” Marles said. “To the point where he laboured over the ballot paper in his hand for 10 minutes, just staring at it. Because, he wondered to himself: ‘Why would I vote for Labor, when Labor aren’t for me?’ ”

    Under Albanese, that question remains unanswered.

    Culpability for this continuing confusion rests with the Labor Party for choosing another leader who, on current performance, appears tone deaf to working Australians. Albanese’s ocker accent and scruffy suits are not enough to form a meaningful connection with working Australians.

    When Albanese signs his letters to constituents “yours in solidarity”, perhaps he should be taken at his word — a Labor leader in solidarity with the inner-city clique of voters in his Sydney seat of Grayndler, a seat under attack from the Greens

    The COVID-19 pandemic has exposed how deep the confusion about the purpose of the Labor Party runs. Is it beholden to the inner-city left? Or does it represent working-class Australians? It cannot do both convincingly.

    After this crisis passes, voters will surely remember that Albanese has splinters in his backside from straddling Labor’s ideological fence, while Morrison was firmly on the side of keeping people in jobs by keeping as much of the economy open as possible.

  184. Twostix

    Are anglo christians ok with being banned by our newly godless state from attending easter services for the first time in our entire known history?

    Never mind . You can go and buy some chocolate rabbits with the 10000 other people at your local Westfield that day.

  185. bespoke

    Winston Smith
    #3391975, posted on April 4, 2020 at 8:56 am
    Where’s my strike through tab?

    Only for us elites junior. 😎

  186. Struth

    I never said you were the enemy calli, you just agreed with something with Notafan that was a snide remark based on a feminine lack of logic.
    I have nothing against you, I really have nothing against Notafan, I mean, I wouldn’t want to socialize with her, but, I’m sure the feeling’s mutual, but if you join in, don’t whinge that I say something.
    As I said, you’re fine FOR A WOMAN!!

  187. Leigh Lowe

    duncanm

    #3391960, posted on April 4, 2020 at 8:44 am

    How the hell is it possible for RA to have built an empire so large it has a CEO on $800k a year

    The answer is, it didn’t.

    True.
    Instead of paying someone about a third of that with a bonus for actual results, they paid up front for results that never came.
    Worse than that, they went backwards.

  188. Candy

    The ‘National Cabinet’ basically is like the ‘Turnbull Party’ thing. A takeover by a group who see a chance to run things their way. I think I saw an ad on TV saying this is what your National Cabinet is doing though it was spoken quite quickly.

  189. calli

    Are anglo christians ok with being banned by our newly godless state from attending easter services for the first time in our entire known history?

    Short answer – no.

    Easter Day will be a streamed service from our church. No Good Friday services. I believe Eadter services will be televised from St Mary’s, Sydney. I am yet to see anything from St Andrews, but it will come.

    I’ve done a quick search on the Spanish Flu pandemic. Proclamation in January, 1919 to close public places including churches. Still trying to find the date this was rescinded. December 1919 comes up, but no details. It may be that churches were closed in Easter 1919. For all the weight of information on the web, you might as well be searching for something that happened in the Devonian, not a century ago.

  190. Tel

    “We have fucking lost our minds. The police in this video should hang their heads in shame. What a fucking joke.”

    When you see something that makes utterly no sense whatsoever … start looking around for someone who might benefit from having it like that and you might make more sense of the situation.

    This is really about power, not about a virus.

  191. NoFixedAddress

    Struth
    #3391979, posted on April 4, 2020 at 8:58 am

    What do people know about this new dictatorship body, the National Cabinet.

    What constitutional right do they have to make Law By decree?

    Struth

    All you ever didn’t want to know.

    http://www.federalfinancialrelations.gov.au/Default.aspx

    AND

    https://www.coag.gov.au/

  192. Mother Lode

    Castle set to release the nude photos.

    Of herself, presumably.

    I can imagine no other images could have greater coercive and extortive power.

  193. Tintalrella di Luna

    I’m also in that minority of women wanting to protect our freedom.

    Now this is a #MeToo movement I want to join

  194. Tintalrella di Luna

    when it comes to being stopped by police as to why I’m out and about I will say it’s to exercise — the exercise of my human right to walk about freely in the street — that would be a good one for ANZAC Day

  195. notafan

    Lol

    Struth never agrees with me about anything!

    But worse than that he puts words in my mouth and lies and lies and lies.

    What do we want?

    A constitutional crisis!

    When do we want it now.

    The freedom! hysteria is premature.

    We in Australia are doing okay, pandemic wise, I don’t know how many times I have to say the same thing.

    Protect the vunerable, send young and healthy back to school and work.

    I’m still cautious prudence.

    After Easter.

    We’ll see.

  196. notafan

    Calli

    Trove will have articles.

    The point is, it’s not unprecedented.

    Look if people here want to defy the edicts and gather in numbers, do it and stop yapping about it.

    Make sure you post date stamped photos on social media to show everybody how brave you are.

  197. NoFixedAddress

    And Struth

    COAG is run under the umbrella of Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet AND If you want to know where true ignorance resides check out
    https://www.pmc.gov.au/

  198. notafan

    Anyone that’s walking in the street, on their own is exercising.

    I can’t see plod bothering to stop.

    Or is there special clothing required.

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