When will Audrey Zibelman and the AEMO come clean with the public?

We will not get out of the various holes that are falling into, debt, civil liberties, energy policy, without a move towards bipartisan politics. That will not happen until the general public have a half decent grasp on the real situation regarding those issues.

Consider the electricity supply. The choke point problem with wind and solar power dictates that we will have to maintain 100% of our conventional capacity for many years to come. Apparently in some circles the AEMO has made it known that we will have to keep coal in the mix for the foreseeable future.

Has the AEMO conveyed that vital information to the ALP, the Greens and the general public? When is the ABC and the MSM going to report this?

Until the general public is aware of the reality of the situation the Greens, Zali Steggall  and the ALP can play posture and pontificate about RE and zero emissions and get away with it.

Bipartisan energy policies will not be possible until the rank and file of voters realise There Is No Alternative to coal for many years to come. TINA!

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21 Responses to When will Audrey Zibelman and the AEMO come clean with the public?

  1. Professor Fred Lenin

    If we need to keep the convention power generation what is the point of unreliable subsidised wind and solar wouldn’t the money spent be put to better use improving the conventional system ? , which is more reliable and cheaper . The huge additional debt that will be caused by the virus spending should dictate the policy mentioned . Poor indebted countries cannot afford airy fairy academic dreams ,and we will certainly be poorer and deeply in debt .
    It’s time for a good dose of populist nationalism and to hell with the elitist globalist fascists .

  2. Rayvic

    “If we need to keep the convention power generation what is the point of unreliable subsidised wind and solar wouldn’t the money spent be put to better use improving the conventional system ?”

    There is no scientific or economic point in subsidising unreliable wind and solar. Accordingly, the Coalition should cease subsidising the renewables, but is obstructed from doing so by too many treasonable ‘moderates’ in its ranks.

  3. RobK

    When will Audrey Zibelman and the AEMO come clean with the public?
    ‘Be a longtime yet, boss. Dey at a good fishing spot.

  4. Rafe:

    We will not get out of the various holes that are falling into, debt, civil liberties, energy policy, without a move towards bipartisan politics.

    Rafe, we have bipartisan politics, but they only espouse ludicrous Leftist policies that enable them and their mates to gorge at the bloody trough without fear of removal.

  5. Crossie

    Bipartisan energy policies will not be possible until the rank and file of voters realise There Is No Alternative to coal for many years to come. TINA!

    They all know that but the plebs need to be kept in the dark so the sweet renewable subsidies can be funnelled to their favourite companies.

  6. Rafe Champion

    A good point Winston. Still too many rats in the Liberal ranks.
    But even the Liberals can be driven towards better policies if the plebs are better informed.

  7. An interesting thought came to mind yesterday when I was reading about the rugby fiasco. It seems all too often that when you put a woman in charge of many organisations, all manner of mishaps arise.

    Rugby is one, AEMO another, Yahoo more of the same, our human rights disaster etc. I’m not saying that men can’t be/haven’t been as bad, but when they are, they are quickly replaced and no one attempts to make excuses or cover up.

  8. Petros

    Maybe ScoMo should go to an early election late this year, before people realize the penury he has inflicted upon Australians. He might get control of the Senate.

  9. tombell

    taxes will be going up sooner rather than later to pay for the COVID shemozzle. those with the capacity to pay will be hit hard. in reality the super rich will be little affected. none of them are stupid enough to be tax residents of this country. a combination of higher state/fed taxes and imposts AND ludicrous power prices just might get people interested in being “better informed”.

  10. pbw

    Winston,

    we have bipartisan politics

    Precisely. Which leads to…
    Petros,

    [ScoMo] might get control of the Senate.

    To do what?

  11. Roger

    Has the AEMO conveyed that vital information to the ALP, the Greens and the general public?

    And, most crucially, the states, which have all (I think that’s correct) adopted zero emissions goals.

    Those coal fired plants in Qld that keep the grid viable? They aren’t planning to replace them.

  12. Rafe Champion

    Roger as far as I know all the states are on board although I have not checked Tasmania or WA but I can’t imagine they would want to be left out. And the nations of the western world are mostly on board as well so it is not as though Australia is just an island of insanity.

  13. Roger

    And the nations of the western world are mostly on board as well so it is not as though Australia is just an island of insanity.

    Yes, but most nations of the Western world have nuclear to provide base load; even virtue signalling Germany can import nuclear from France as needed.

    And even Commie Joe Biden has more nuclear power plants in response to AGW as a policy.

    In contrast, we’re walking a tightrope without a net.

  14. Billy Boy

    Bemused,
    There may be some truth in what you say..

  15. Billy it is the simple truth of these woke times. Nobody will object to appointing competent women to senior positions but there is no justification for affirmative action at the point of hiring and promotion or favoritism when the time comes to get rid of non-performers.
    Look at James Cook University. The academic record of the VC is a parody and she is clearly a professional MMC (member of many committees).

  16. DaveR

    We should all understand by now that nothing is going to happen while “NY Audrey” is in the role. A committed deep green zealot appointed to the position by Turnbull for exactly that reason.

    And a key point on coal power: it has to be run 24/7 as a baseload supply, preferably at a fixed contract price. They cannot operate as swing suppliers, switching on and off as spot (or slightly forward) prices give a short window of profitability.

  17. John A

    Consider the electricity supply. The choke point problem with wind and solar power dictates that we will have to maintain 100% of our conventional capacity for many years to come. Apparently, in some circles the AEMO has made it known that we will have to keep coal in the mix for the foreseeable future.

    Which means that the electrical engineers have lost to the green marketeers and show ponies.

    The grid and the reticulation network have been designed as a positive-pressure, centrally-based generating system, where the energy used at the customer outlets is “pushed” from the power plants at high voltage for almost instantaneous use.

    The raw source of the baseload energy (coal, nuclear) is already in a concentrated form with high energy density (thank you, Dr Karl Kruszelnicki, about the only useful concept you have given us).

    The screwballs energy sources (wind, solar) by stark contrast are dispersed forms with almost NO density and need a preliminary step to concentrate the energy into a usable form. The effort required must be paid for, so that by definition, such sources will never be cost-comparative with the already concentrated forms we have available.

    Secondly, these dispersed sources are not available in any constant supply and, by the laws of physics, cannot maintain baseload pressure within the present grid. This is admitted but never acknowledged by the fact that the RE “industry” always talks about “phasing out” coal rather than “replacing” it, because deep down in their brains (somewhere) is the incontrovertible fact that they NEED baseload unless the entire centrally-designed grid is abandoned.

    The only way solar can work is as individual building supply, off-grid, but that is like saying we should all disconnect our water supply from the mains in the street and use our own tanks. This used to be known as “third-world poverty” or “primitive pre-industrial Australia.”

    Bring back Sir John Monash, please!

  18. Rafe Champion

    Yes Boambee I am not a betting man but I would put a dollar on Never.

  19. Following on from my earlier comment, not how Their ABC is talking about the Hee Haw from the Land of the Long White Cloud:

    Three reasons why Jacinda Ardern’s coronavirus response has been a masterclass in crisis leadership

    And how much criticism have our state premiers received, including the sheila from Victoristan?

  20. Rob

    Allowing the planned /intended closure of the electricity grid’s coal fired base load generators to continue is the best way to expose the utter folly of this policy.
    The ramifications will be impossible to disguise or sugar coat.
    Bring it on, and follow up with the inevitable move to nuclear power..

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