Greg Craven tears their ABC a new one

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129 Responses to Greg Craven tears their ABC a new one

  1. C.L.

    Good stuff but … re “J”:

    “There is no reason to believe that he did not believe he was telling the truth.”

    That’s bullshit.
    There was sufficient craft in his testimony and conduct to convince me is a straight-out liar.

  2. Sinclair Davidson

    I think Craven was avoiding a journalist trap there. He wasn’t deviating from the judgement.

  3. Frank

    There was sufficient craft in his testimony and conduct to convince me is a straight-out liar.

    It can never be said in this situation though.

  4. nfw

    You see leftie luvvie “progressives” use “the law” to justify their actions and when “the law” goes against them then it’s wrong I tell you, wrong! It’s not as if Stalin and all the other mass murderers (funny how they all seem to be socialists) just had people killed for the fun of it. No, they used the “approved law” of the time and all was done in accordance with that. So you see the luvvies fully expected the High Court to find in their favour but for the full bench to find against them it’s just not fair as they had their guilty verdict all decided well in advance of any court room appearances.

  5. Lee

    That interview just goes to show that the ABC (for the all their smugness and sanctimony about being investigative journalists) don’t like it when the blowtorch is turned back on them.

  6. Cassie of Sydney

    Greg Craven was sublime dealing with the mediocre ABC hack.

  7. egg_

    HC vs Aunty:

    7 – Nil

    Legends.

  8. I’d like to see Greg Craven interviewed more frequently! But I doubt the ABC will invite him back.

  9. notafan

    ‘Manufactured obscurity’

  10. Adelagado

    Well that’s one interview that won’t get replayed on the ABC.

  11. Megan

    Well done, Greg. Handled the attempted gotcha like a master. And didn’t the pretty airhead on the other side feel the heat? She attempted Olympic level deflection as she finally realised he well and truly had her measure.

  12. ac

    Cardinal Pell needs to sue Louise Milligan for defamation her book and contact commentary these past three years!!!

  13. mareeS

    Interviewer’s final question as to will the Catholic Church recover, it hasn’t died. I am not a hugely practising one outside of Christmas, Easter and family ceremonies, but I and family members are part of the community. Much like friends of other faiths.

  14. H B Bear

    Ouch. J’ismist down.

  15. Sinclair Davidson

    Well that’s one interview that won’t get replayed on the ABC.

    I’ve made a copy just in case they pressure YouTube to take it down.

  16. DaveR

    Hetty Johnston in the Sydney Telegraph says as of today there is “a new normal, and that the voices of child sexual assault victims are overwhelmingly inconsequential”.

    What utter tosh: she doesnt seem to have read the clear reasoning for the 7-0 verdict.

  17. Roger

    “There is no reason to believe that he did not believe he was telling the truth.”

    Then he is either delusional or lying.

  18. egg_

    J’ismist down.

    Still on training wheels.
    Cruelty on the part of Aunty.

  19. Infidel Tiger

    Barney Swartz in the SMH promises they will harass Pell to the grave.

  20. Bruce of Newcastle

    Can we shut the ABC down now? I’d love it if the Vatican sued them into the ground, except the damages would be coming from my taxpayer’s pocket.

  21. Bela Bartok

    Makes me proud to be an ACU student…

  22. calli

    Barney Swartz in the SMH promises they will harass Pell to the grave.

    Then they will make their own lives yawning chasms of misery and vengeance. Their choice.

  23. Roger

    Can we shut the ABC down now? I’d love it if the Vatican sued them into the ground, except the damages would be coming from my taxpayer’s pocket.

    But at least damages (& costs) would come from the ABC’s budget.

  24. ac

    Cardinal Pell needs to sue Louise Milligan for a start!!!!!

  25. mh

    Julia Gillard
    @JuliaGillard
    ·
    6h
    Recovery from sexual abuse in childhood can be complex and can take time. For many people, particularly those who have experienced trauma, today’s news may bring a range of emotions. It’s important to know that support is available.

  26. Cassie of Sydney

    “Hetty Johnston in the Sydney Telegraph “

    I have never liked Johnston…..she is a bottom feeder.

  27. Snoopy

    Cassie of Sydney
    #3398430, posted on April 7, 2020 at 5:24 pm
    “Hetty Johnston in the Sydney Telegraph “

    I have never liked Johnston…..she is a bottom feeder.

    Yep. Hetty was a serial failed candidate for a number of Queensland and Federal elections. Then she hit the motherload.*

    Not our motherload.

  28. Cassie of Sydney

    Chris Kenny has the bottom feeder…aka Hetty Johnston….on his Sky programme. He really should know better…..Johnston isn’t an expert at anything…..she is a just a longstanding and very pernicious muckraker of the first degree.

  29. Rex Mango

    mh, fascinating that Gillard pops her head above the parapet at this time. She is the shadowy figure behind this grotesque legal charade. She was the master of the deflection when the polls were bad for her, like blackest day in Australian sport. Get Pell perfect opportunity to attack the patriarchy. Great interview by Craven by the way.

  30. Rooster

    I’m amazed they didn’t cut him off mid-sentence due to ‘technical difficulties’. Is there a single person within the ABC sheltered workshop who expressed doubt over Pell’s guilt. It’s not a hard question. The answer is NO.

  31. H B Bear

    Look forward to watching this on Media Watch with the smarmy Paul Barry.

  32. vlad

    today’s news may bring a range of emotions

    Including joy and gratitude.

  33. H B Bear

    Hetty Johnston is just a sad rent-a-quote on this stuff. For the mummy bloggers.

  34. JC

    mh, tweet to our Julia.

    Very True, Julia. All forms of abuse are horrifyingly brutal. By the way what do u think about ur pal’s (Hillary Clinton) spouse (Bill) having been accused of rape and other diabolical acts in his past. Yet you had Australia donate millions to their so-called charity. Nice Call.

  35. Roger

    Barney Swartz in the SMH promises they will harass Pell to the grave.

    Harassing an innocent man to the grave, eh?

    Nice look for a senior fellow of the Centre for Public Christianity, a not-for-profit that purports to offer “a Christian perspective on contemporary life”.

  36. WolfmanOz

    Firm and to the point – well done Greg Craven !

  37. Roger

    I admire your work, JC.

  38. H B Bear

    For Gillard it is all about the feelz.

    Labor doesn’t really do Rule of Law, rules of evidence and the separation of powers.

  39. Beachcomber

    Cardinal Pell needs to sue Louise Milligan for a start!!!!!

    Milligan has been hitting Twitter with quotes from QC Richter’s foolish submissions to the sentencing hearing. She is mis-representing references to “vanilla” acts etc. as admissions of of wrongdoing by Cardinal Pell.
    ABC communard Milligan is a very disturbed and evil person.

  40. Fisky

    All of the Labor commentary on this has been unhinged (as for the Greens…don’t even go there). Unfortunately, a few of them who should and do know better are remaining silent for fear of the mob.

    Do these people not know the basic facts of our legal system or do they not care?

  41. WDYSIA

    Barney Swartz in the SMH promises they will harass Pell to the grave.

    Is that Barney Zwartz who to use to write for the Age? If so, he’s a very anti-Catholic Presbyterian. I thought he had retired, too.

  42. Gyro Cadiz

    “journalist” now bleeding from every opening after a mighty thwacking.

    Her efforts at constant reframing failed dismally.

  43. Gyro Cadiz

    “journalist” now bleeding from every opening after a mighty thwacking.

    Her efforts at constant reframing failed dismally.

  44. notafan

    Milligan has a law degree, don’t you know?

  45. custard

    The best TV all day. I just shared it on Spacechook.

    I still think Karina is really hot.

  46. Roger

    Labor doesn’t really do Rule of Law, rules of evidence and the separation of powers.

    Like all Commies.

  47. Well done by Greg Craven, although i think he was quite measured in what he said. I would have love to have seen him go off tap at the alpbc j’imists.

    As a side note i have spent a pleasant afternoon reporting the twatterati who have lost their shit over the Pell exoneration.

  48. JC

    Milligan is the 2020 version of Emma Alberici.

  49. notafan

    Monash University Law degree. Grad dip in journalism at RMIT

  50. Infidel Tiger

    I still think Karina is really hot.

    An absolute babe.

  51. Fisky

    Yes, I’ve reported a few myself. It’s annoying that Twitter does have defamation as an option for reporting people. All the choices are various shades of Da Feels, It’s Not Who We Are (TM), etc etc.

  52. notafan

    And raised ‘a devoted Catholic’

    Whatever that means.

  53. Fisky

    That should be, does NOT have…

  54. Dan

    @Roger, I think you have misinterpreted the comment re Barney Swartz’s article. It’s not meant as Barney Swartz saying he will harass Pell, but rather that Swartz is giving an opinion that Pell will continue to be harassed.

  55. Leigh Lowe

    Barney Swartz in the SMH promises they will harass Pell to the grave

    We can only hope Barney is in his grave by Wednesday then.

  56. lotocoti

    Hetty has never been a fan of due process.
    We are fortunate there have always been enough less worse political aspirants
    to stymie her ambitions for elected office.

  57. Roger

    Do you have a quote, Dan?

  58. Fisky
    #3398498, posted on April 7, 2020 at 5:59 pm

    Yes, I’ve reported a few myself. It’s annoying that Twitter does have defamation as an option for reporting people. All the choices are various shades of Da Feels, It’s Not Who We Are (TM), etc etc.

    Go straight for the self harm or death threats option, works every time 🙂

  59. Roger

    Channel 9’s coverage verges on the defamatory but doesn’t quite get there.

    They’ve obviously had their lawyers go over it.

    If any of them were falsely accused of such crimes they’d soon realise the importance of the burden of proof in criminal cases.

  60. WDYSIA

    Richter’s rather unfortunate reference to Vanilla is nevertheless true. One charge effectively was that Pell grabbed a boy by the balls. Teachers have broken up such behaviour in the school yard without necessitating a High Court appeal. Many teen girls get groped on crowded public transport without their lives falling apart. I’m not saying that such behaviour should be overlooked or go unpunishef but on the scale of things, it is a minor offence and not worthy of a lengthy jail sentence which is equivalent to what murderers get in Victoria. The other charges relating to the first incident were more serious but again, in the scheme of things, relatively minor.

    Some of the boys – and it was mostly boys who were abused by priests – suffered immeasurably worse abuse, some of it physically as well as emotionally and mentally disfiguring, and for years. This case I believe has done untold damage to those with genuine and serious complaints as it has trivialized them.

    I think J is very likely a liar. He may be at the point where he’s told his lies often enough that he now believes them, but I still believe they are lies. And of course he is free to lie because he has nothing to lose. His identity is protected. He will never come up on charges of perjury. He is feeding off his notoriety among his little group of which he is ostensibly ‘a leader’ and who likely know his identity (I keep thinking this group is some victims support group). But had he won this case he could have made himself a tidy little packet.

    I also find it interesting that his father (of course) made a statement, but J the victim is strangely silent. Did he make a statement? Did the media pursue him for a statement? Where is his deeply compelling response?

  61. Fisky

    Go straight for the self harm or death threats option, works every time 🙂

    Hahaha! Good one

  62. Fisky

    They’ve obviously had their lawyers go over it.

    It says a lot about their intentions that they had to lawyer it. There are some truly disgusting people in the white collar class in our country.

  63. NoFixedAddress

    There is a lot of High Court Deniers out there.

  64. Leigh Lowe

    Can we remove a good proportion of ribbons hanging on church fences today or not?

  65. Cassie of Sydney

    “This case I believe has done untold damage to those with genuine and serious complaints as it has trivialized them.”

    Absolutely…and it was never ever about assisting genuine and real victims and helping them seek and get justice…it was only ever about getting Pell and getting the Catholic Church as a whole. The likes of their ABC, Marr, Fatty Milligan and so on don’t give a shit about the real victims…..this was only ever a political witch hunt and assassination.

  66. Lee

    Channel 9’s coverage verges on the defamatory but doesn’t quite get there.

    Peter Hitchener on their Melbourne news tonight looked graver than I’ve ever seen him.
    What really annoyed me though was the reporter who referred to other “victims” (not alleged victims) with respect to Cardinal Pell.

  67. WolfmanOz

    Having read Hetty Johnston’s article I am appalled – just scream guilty and due process be damned.

  68. mh

    Very True, Julia. All forms of abuse are horrifyingly brutal. By the way what do u think about ur pal’s (Hillary Clinton) spouse (Bill) having been accused of rape and other diabolical acts in his past. Yet you had Australia donate millions to their so-called charity. Nice Call.

    Noice.

  69. a happy little debunker

    To be fair to Gillard, she is prompting people who may being having an emotional meltdown (because they can no longer assign blame) to seek some sort of professional help.

  70. Credelin being very cautious regarding Pell. Why?

  71. Gab

    Credelin being very cautious regarding Pell. Why?

    Fear of reprisal.

  72. Ubique

    The ABC cares not a jot about child abuse on an industrial scale occurring right now in remote and regional communities.

  73. Rex Mango

    Having so much fun listening to ABC RN, watching the Drum, missed the Project, but will get to it later & now Ch2 News & 7.30. So much egg on so many faces. Order of the day; Splice the Main Brace.

  74. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Infidel Tiger at 5:59 pm:

    ” I still think Karina is really hot.

    An absolute babe.”

    Oh? Here was I was thinking a jolly good dose of the clap would be suitable reward for her ignorant amateurism.

    Talking over a man who she has invited in to comment is about as pig ignorant as it gets. She is paid an equal opportunity leg-up salary to offer nothing of value, to seek out achievers and criticise what they do, from a base of zero knowledge. Little wonder he showed her up so expertly for the fraud she is – fish in a barrel.

  75. ‘Traffic Control Officers’ can be more efficiently and cheaply replaced by portable traffic lights. Pollies ‘hand wavers’ can be more effectively replaced by subtitles FFS.
    I hate fuckin Pollies – they pervert everything, even good folks who have learned sign language but are being misused by the sewer.

  76. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From a happy little debunker at 6:31 pm:

    “To be fair to Gillard, she is prompting people who may being having an emotional meltdown (because they can no longer assign blame) to seek some sort of professional help.”

    Utter bullship! The slag from Altona has never done a thing throughout her miserable existence without personal profit foremost in her motivation. Do you not remember her own father died of shame?

    Who in their right mind would utter the nonsense “To be fair to Gillard”? The grub has lied and deceived as a way of life.

  77. Splice the Main Brace.

    Thanks, don’t mind if you do.

  78. maree s:

    Interviewer’s final question as to will the Catholic Church recover, it hasn’t died. I am not a hugely practising one outside of Christmas, Easter and family ceremonies, but I and family members are part of the community. Much like friends of other faiths.

    I was hoping Greg would reply with:
    “Of course the Catholic Church will recover – but I wouldn’t be too sure about the ABC and the wider media.”

  79. Doomlord:

    I’ve made a copy just in case they pressure YouTube to take it down.

    How do you do that?
    I don’t mean make a link, but to actually download the video?

  80. vlad

    Milligan has a law degree, don’t you know?

    You’d never know it.

  81. vlad

    How do you do that?
    I don’t mean make a link, but to actually download the video?

    One way – I don’t say it’s the only way or the best – is to have an app that can record whatever is on your computer screen in real time. oCam is one such.

    https://ohsoft.net/eng/ocam/download.php?cate=1002

  82. vlad

    Zwartz is deranged. He says, gloatingly (and the entire article is one long gloat about the trouble ahead of Pell, to the grave ) “So Pell has not walked scot-free.”

    If Zwartz has a job – anywhere – he should be fired.

  83. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Winston Smith at 7:23 pm:

    Doomlord:

    ” I’ve made a copy just in case they pressure YouTube to take it down.

    How do you do that?
    I don’t mean make a link, but to actually download the video?

    How? … in this case, without delay!

    Their ABC will not permit that first class pizzling to remain visible for long.

    Log in to YouTube. Beneath their video replay you will see “Download” on a green “button”. Click on that, use the drop-down list to select MP4 720p, click on that and save gaily away.

  84. Bar Beach Swimmer

    CL, can you repost that report re the background on The Kid’. The one that examined his evidence from his own words, I think as per what Milligan had written about in her book. Thank you.

  85. Anita

    H B Bear
    #3398466, posted on April 7, 2020 at 5:42 pm
    “For Gillard it is all about the feelz.

    Labor doesn’t really do Rule of Law, rules of evidence and the separation of powers”

    Agreed

  86. Nighthawk the Elder

    Girl just got “schooled” by the Professor.

  87. Jo

    Awesome Greg craven. You are speaking the truth

  88. Bar Beach Swimmer

    I still think Karina is really hot.

    An absolute babe

    IT, haven’t you ever heard of a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Or, perhaps a better analogy, the Sirens enticing sailors with their beautiful voice only to be in one legend drowned or was it torn to shreds in another? A more modern example would be an attack by The Left. Always remember stay away from The Left: they eat their own, so what would they do to you?

  89. Hodor

    Get thee to a non live area of their abc

  90. Sinclair Davidson

    How do you do that?

    Start playing the clip, then pause it. Add the letter ss after the . and before youtube and then download. A whole bunch of other things will come up – ignore them. Then find the clip in your download folder and save.

  91. candy

    She certainly is an attractive, well spoken young lady. Quite polite. A nice presence on the TV for the ABC.

    Obviously of the ABC group think etc, but apart from that not the spitting angry type of ABC lady.

    She is an improvement on the other ABC ladies – nicer feminine look and quite polite. So a good interview.
    Of course, she could turn shrewish, and that would be a shame.

  92. Paolo

    My own suspicion is that J was abused by someone but at some point (whether of his own accord or encouraged by others) decided to try and pin it on Pell. The lies that were enough to convince Louise Milligan then needed to be constantly refined to match the actual facts that kept coming up from the other witnesses (only 2 possible Sundays it could actually have happened, etc.) and he was in too deep to back out even though it was so obviously improbable.

    Watch the no-win-no-fee lawyers drop their clients like hotcakes as soon as it’s clear Pell will fight any civil cases because the cases are so weak. Strong enough for the ABC but not for people able to use logic.

    Greg Craven is Australian of the Year!

  93. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Craven was on Bolt tonight and spoke well on the ramifications of HC decision. I hadn’t seen the ALPBC interview at that point.

    For those hoping that the daddy of the dead boy will pursue a case against Pell, someone on Sky observed that “there is no chance of a case against Pell being pursued on behalf a dead individual, with zero evidence, especially after this decision”.

    Once again, altogether now:

    Shut It Down
    Fire Them All
    Mound Of Skulls
    Salt The Earth

  94. Squirrel

    The High Court decision is a very serious test of the ABC’s claim to public funding on the basis that it is unbiased.

    It’s one thing for a generalist (I assume) presenter to conduct an interview with a highly qualified specialist on the subject, and have it go bad (to put it politely), but let’s see if some of the ABC’s specialist programs, particularly on radio, deal with the High Court decision in more detail and from a legal perspective, not from a political perspective.

  95. nb

    ‘but let’s see if some of the ABC’s specialist programs, particularly on radio, deal with the High Court decision in more detail and from a legal perspective, not from a political perspective.’
    They will be practicing the subtle nuances that make their discussions sound objective, and yet leave a negative impression. It can be a subtle art. For example providing a vivid metaphor in relation to guilt, but a muddy explanation for innocence. Can’t be faulted, and yet completely biased.

  96. Anto

    Karina Carvalho seems to be a very nice person and, usually, a fairly neutral interviewer (for the ABC).

    However, that inevitably means that she just reads out questions which somebody behind the scenes has prepared earlier. That means she is completely unprepared for a vindicated and combative subject.

    She was the focus of the ridicule, but she bore it on behalf of Their entire ABC.

  97. John A

    candy #3398831, posted on April 7, 2020 at 8:21 pm

    She certainly is an attractive, well spoken young lady. Quite polite. A nice presence on the TV for the ABC.

    Obviously of the ABC group think etc, but apart from that not the spitting angry type of ABC lady.

    Up to a point only. When cornered she began to display standard anti-conservative bias, talked over the interviewee and threatened to close the interview.

    Also the copy she was using contained those subtle biases – speaking of “victims” not complainants, not even “alleged”, and included “other victims of abuse” in her questions.

    Congratulations, Prof, on a well-handled interview.

  98. C.L.

    Shut It Down
    Fire Them All
    Mound Of Skulls
    Salt The Earth

    Not good enough, ‘Fish.
    We’ve got to be SURE – and you know what that means …

  99. Louis

    I’m not totally satisfied with the High Court decision.

    The prosecution couldn’t even say exactly what the date was the offending took place. If Pell hadn’t of been such a high profile person, causing so many witnesses to be able to recall and speak on his defence, he would have had no chance of defending himself against this charge.

    Imagine another person who is accused of something from 20 years ago, and being able to defend themselves? Would you even remember what you were doing or what possible witnesses you could call on, if they still remember or can even be found.

    The High Court should have thrown it out purely on the absurdity of the prosecution case and the conduct of police. No supporting evidence or witnesses, just a victim’s ‘account’. The whole false memory thing showed how convinced people can be of something that never actually happened.

    All the High Court have said is that a probably that something happened, leaves the probability that it did not, and that was failed to properly be considered.

  100. GoWest

    Well done Craven – up there with the Delingpole vs Faine re climate change discussion / battle…

    Shows the way for future interviews with the ABCe – treat em with the contempt they deserve…

  101. Dan

    @Roger No quote, it’s probably more the absence of a quote really. Swartz’s article articulates views of how things may unfold for GP from here on. It’s not a cal for him to be harassed or a statement of intention.

  102. Biggles

    Why am I still funding “news” and current affairs at their ABC? Bias and deliberate deception in this matter. Who is accountable? Who will be sacked? Name an ABC presenter or journalist who cast doubt on Pells guilt. Reminds me of the same hacks who predicted Trump couldn’t win. Not one entertained he could win. See the pattern here?
    Thank your God for our High Court. Everyone is protected by its judgement today.

  103. Louis Litt

    The case was bad. Prior to 2007 Aust was a cohesive society. There were no divisions and no one was bashed for who they were. What I find interesting, when at Uni in the 1980s It was my first social interactions with English protestants. Pope JP come on tour and the playboy Protestant was laughing with his Protestant mates that some one should shoot JP as soon as he step off the plane.there was the one off remark about Catholics from the Protestant lecturers.
    The comment re Schwarz above – a Presbyterian. Gillard the same vein, Wong educated at Scotch, Rudd a embarrassed Catholic defects to the winners , Anglican to hide his past, Shorten defects to being an Anglican for whatever reason.
    When you say commies this seems to me to be turning the clock back to the 1700s. Proddies V Catholics.
    On thing I find unusual about all of this – when Don Dunstan was premier of SA and visualised it as the Greece of the south, there was a high kidnapping, murder and abduction of teenagers, more male men.
    Unusual this stopped when he ceased being premier.
    Get a grip Australia before you cause violence Amungst yourselves – this is as bad as Whitlams dismissal.

  104. TN

    Although in the past I largely detested Pell and continue to think that his church is guilty of monumental evil, ever since seeing Pell’s police interview in Rome I have doubted his guilt on these charges. Assuming that one really is innocent (and not just not legally guilty), it must be one of the worst feelings in the world to be wrongly incarcerated*, and Pell to his credit appears to have handled it with grace. Perhaps that was partly because he saw himself as paying part of the price for his church’s evil-doing, and his responsibility for not preventing it and for minimising its significance?
    —-
    * Apologies for the virtue signalling, but I occasionally donate to wrongly-incarcerated blacks (typically) in the US. Google “innocence project gofundme” and you’ll find plenty of heart-wrenching and worthy cases.

  105. Rayvic

    Ray Hadley (2GB) relished Cardinal Pell’s conviction last year, and had the audacity to chastise Tony Abbott and John Howard for speaking to the ‘guilty’ Cardinal Pell.

    Given the High Court’s quashing of the conviction, an unqualified apology by Hadley to the three would now be in order.

  106. BorisG

    I know Greg Craven from his time in W.A. great guy.

    A note for haters of academia: he is not only an academic, but a serial university adminsitrator.

  107. BorisG

    Today on the radio and TV a number of sexual abuse victims and their advocates said this verdict is devastating for them. But why? How the fact that one conviction is quashed damage any real victim? And this isn’t like the first time someone accused of child sexual abuse has been found not guilty.

    Did they expect every single accuser to be telling the truth? Do they believe Pell should answer for all sins of the church?

  108. Nob

    Pursuing false allegations doesn’t help any real victim.
    It does the exact opposite.

  109. win

    Channels 7 and 10 have people talking about the devastation to all victims of paedophilia. It appears that the media who have fermented massaged and given oxygen to the conviction of Cardinal Pell expect him to be crucified on behalf of all victims other then the kids from remote Indigenous Communities.
    Our media are really loathsome. the women on Sunrise referred to the Cardinal as being ” holed up in a monastery”.

  110. Mother Lode

    If media organisations are looking for the who is expendable in these WuFlu straitened times, they may want to start with reporters pigheadedly refusing to acknowledge facts – presumably a pre-requisite of the profession – and who think the media organisation is for their personal agenda rather than the directors and shareholders.

    They would also be disencumering themselves of a person who, again in these financially strained times, might invite lengthy, expensive and ultimately damning litigation upon them.

  111. Up The Workers!

    Even Juliar Gillard (who said she’d call out misogyny wherever she saw it) evidently supports Kathy Sherriff in her allegations against Bull Shitten.

    Good one Juliar.

    Monica Lewinski would be proud of you, now that you have finally come around to sticking up for the victim instead of the perpetrator.

    Now that wasn’t too hard after all, was it?

  112. notafan

    The allegations moved dates so many times, one could get dizzy.

    If only there was a formal enquiry into this ‘manufactured obscurity’.

    very much a movable feast

  113. H B Bear

    Channel Stokes news showed a parade of “victims” to share their outrage and disappointment. In other words the feelz – nothing about the actual legal case, systemic failures or facts.

    Dumbed down,shallow, Front Line, mummy blogger stuff. Exactly what you would expect.

  114. Docket62

    There is a lot of High Court Deniers out there.

    At least this time the ‘facts’ are settled

  115. Boambee John

    BorisG

    Did they expect every single accuser to be telling the truth? Do they believe Pell should answer for all sins of the church
    em>

    Yes, their desire is for a scapegoat.

  116. Delta A

    No wonder Leigh Sales wanted another go at him last night. He exposed the interviewer as a biased hack.

  117. H B Bear

    I don’t know Homer Simpson, I’ve never met Homer Simpson, but…

    https://youtu.be/yaS5VIGsS0E

  118. Delta A

    Muddled my post. Should read:

    No wonder Leigh Sales wanted a go at Pell last night. Craven exposed the interviewer as a biased hack.

  119. Cynic of Ayr

    Ah, but what we didn’t see as the camera was on Greg Craven, was off camera.
    The ABC mouthpiece was a stunned mullet, and didn’t know what to do.
    First she said “Management” would disagree. but, in seconds camera staff, and journalists rushing to the scene, were waving their arms and frantically slashing fingers across their throats, “Cut! Cut!”
    The frantic talking over Craven was a sight to behold.
    “Let’s move on, we don’t like those answers!”

  120. Greg Cudmore

    If any other Australian had been exonerated after serving 400+ days in jail there would be massive sympathy for the wrongly convicted and anger at the system. Instead the trolls are frothing at the mouth describing the outcome as an unlikely technicality. Beyond reasonable doubt – a technicality? Coupled with the during that the courts do not overturn juries. Chamberlain, Ronald Ryan, Ratten, Van Belan and Mcleod Lindsay are just a few of the cases where juries got it completely wrong,

  121. JABL

    A magnificent decision.

    The important takeways:
    1. If the uncontradicted evidence is that the the conduct complained of could not have happened then the case should have been taken away from the jury (assuming that the DPP was brain dead enough to allow it to proceed)
    2. The Defence appears to have been nobbled in that they were prohibited by law from accessing the complainant’s counseling history and medical diagnosis. This exists in at least two jurisdictions. In mine ‘any’ counselor be it a teacher or whom ever who gives ‘advice’ to a complainant is protected. This prevents, unless a Court rules otherwise, a defendant from knowing what a complainant may have claimed in the past (ie possible prior inconsistent statements).
    3. Further to 3 it is believed by some in legal profession in light of certain personalities involved in the Royal Commission that this may be covering a return to hypno-therapy and “recovered memories” with all the attendant injustice that entails.

  122. Crossie

    Ubique
    #3398620, posted on April 7, 2020 at 6:50 pm
    The ABC cares not a jot about child abuse on an industrial scale occurring right now in remote and regional communities.

    That doesn’t help the narrative so it doesn’t exist.

  123. Tim

    George: “Do you like apples!?
    ABC: (nodding,…as long as they’re vegan, non Catholic, left leaning and bias and rotten to the core!)
    George: 7-0!!!!..How do you like those apples!?

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R_MvFaBL5KU

  124. Tim

    George: “Do you like apples!?
    ABC: (nodding,…as long as they’re vegan, non Catholic, left leaning, bias and rotten to the core!)
    George: 7-0!!!!..How do you like those apples!?

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R_MvFaBL5KU

  125. Davey Street

    ITA’s BROADCASTING COPORATION (IBC) NEWS AND CURRENT AFFAIRS DIVISION has been a disaster. NOTHING HAS CHANGED. HOSTILITY TOWARDS CONSERVATIVES AND LIBERALS BY THIS UNION CONTROLLED PUBLIC SERVANT GROUP THINK ORG HAS NOT CHANGED ONE IOTA since Ita took over

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