Tuesday Forum: April 7, 2020

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  1. Rex Mango

    JC, re that Church of the Holy Sepulchre Key Master, as I understand it, compulsory that he must be a moozie, considered a great honour & certain families have had this job for centuries. Like being a Steward at Flemington.

  2. NoFixedAddress

    lotocoti
    #3398779, posted on April 7, 2020 at 8:02 pm

    NFA
    Lex’s archive is great.
    The over G tale is a corker.

    Yeah lotocoti

    I’ve saved the site.

    Top Ender gave a list of skills the CCP Navy will need to develop among which was night landing and it reminded me of a description I read, somewhere, by a pilot describing his first landing on the deck at night.

    And he was telling the story more from a perspective of learning trust and humility because he said when you are coming in the only thing you can do is trust in God, your training but most of all the bloke guiding you down.

    He said I didn’t know I was alive until that first night landing and I’m paraphrasing here but he said when the plane came to a stop he just sat there until deck crew came and helped him out all the while congratulating him and he looked down and realised he’d pissed himself.

    Can’t remember the sequence but the other pilots gave him a cheer and he was told don’t worry about pissing yourself. You wouldn’t be human if you didn’t.

    If anyone recognizes that I’d appreciate if you had a reference.

    Thanks

  3. Leigh Lowe

    Hollywood actor Woody Harrelson is suggesting that 5G technology may have potential negative effects on coronavirus victims.

    He started out playing a dumb as dog-shit country hick on Cheers.
    No method acting involved.

  4. Steve trickler

    Peter the old fossil
    #3398852, posted on April 7, 2020 at 8:31 pm

    It takes me back to Carnarvon in 1983 with headphones on my head. At a ripe old age 4 years.

  5. Rex Mango

    Battle of Britain a flawed movie, but they did their homework and an all star lineup. Scene where British Ambassador loses temper with German counterpart very good.

  6. calli

    Sir Ralph Richardson, Rex.

    “And even then we won’t listen”.

    Good, hearty stuff.

  7. Peter the old fossil

    It takes me back to Carnarvon in 1983 with headphones on my head. At a ripe old age 4 years.

    My goodness! You’re just a baby. Marilyn and I got married in Carnarvon in 1980.
    And I was no teenager.

  8. Bruce of Newcastle

    The @UN reports the lockdowns are leading to a “horrifying surge” in domestic violence.

    Horrifying lack of dosh more likely.

    U.N. official warns of “dire” financial crisis due to coronavirus in leaked documents (4 Apr)

    The United Nations is facing a “dire” liquidity crisis as it deals with added expenses related to the need to “respond to the global health crisis” of coronavirus, according to an email from Movses Abelian, the U.N. undersecretary general for General Assembly and conference management. That email was sent to explain a memo from the undersecretary general for management Catherine Pollard, and both documents were obtained by CBS News.

    Maybe they should get nice Mr Ghebreyesus to ask his Chinese friends for a dime or two.
    Surely they will help!

  9. liliana

    But it’s mostly the older folk so it’s hard to see why the Chinese would target the 75 to 90 year olds. Too weird.

    Because they are no longer productive and aren’t very good consumers. I notice that several news articles have mentioned that China is returning to pre bat flue production levels.

    Now that they have created world panic they are back to making crap again. Seems quite rational to me. They would hardly want to target their means of production but are willing to sacrifice a few to create sufficient fear in developed nations.

  10. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    My goodness! You’re just a baby. Marilyn and I got married in Carnarvon in 1980.
    And I was no teenager.

    I married the Creature From the Black Lagoon the year after.

  11. Ed Case

    Zinc supplementation sounds good, though it’s not well absorbed.
    Meat looks to be the best source, possible Australians have been sucked in by the relentless anti-meat propaganda and aren’t eating anywhere near enough steaks and roasts?
    Anyway, here’s a list of things Cayenne Pepper is good for.
    https://globalhealing.com/natural-health/benefits-of-cayenne-pepper/

  12. Peter the old fossil

    They would hardly want to target their means of production but are willing to sacrifice a few to create sufficient fear in developed nations.

    Of course it could also be because the Chinese were not responsible for it in the first place.
    Just suggesting . . .

  13. Rex Mango

    Think the Battle of Britain almost exact opposite of epics nowadays. They stuck so closely to historical accuracy that the overall story line ponderous, but has riveting individual scenes for the modern eye. Modern movies just create their own romanticised story that sounds good, but historical nonsense. Also no PC mush back in 69 & unlike say Darkest Hour not seeing coloured folk everywhere.

    PS Susannah York is smoking hot in this pub scene with Christopher Plummer

  14. Robber Baron

    Paul Murray is an awesome shill for the ScoMo dictatorship. He just said the home detention will last for months and end only when a vaccine is available. And if anyone wants to go to the pub, they won’t be open “any time soon.”

    The depression is guaranteed.

    Dictator Morrison has ensured property values for commercial property values will crash because he just forced us property owners that we must reduce rent to zero if the business in my property has been shut down by the government.

    ScoMo will lose the next election by a landslide.

  15. Fat Tony

    candy
    #3398847, posted on April 7, 2020 at 8:29 pm
    ……..But it’s mostly the older folk so it’s hard to see why the Chinese would target the 75 to 90 year olds. Too weird.

    Communists are liars, thieves and murderers.

    To the CCP, what use are the 75 – 90+ year olds??
    They are “useless eaters” who also require a similar number of younger people to care for them. These younger people could be making money for the CCP.

    So, to a communist, the State would benefit by killing off all the older ones.

  16. Rex Mango

    Calli, yes should have recognised Sir Ralph.

  17. Ed Case

    The history of the PRC is murky.
    Read today that Chiang Kai Shek was winning the Chinese Civil War in 1948 when the U.S. State Dept. [later found to be infested with traitors] brokered a ceasefire, then embargoed arms sales to Chiang.
    A second U.S. brokered ceasefire that year broke the back of the ROC Armies and the rest is history.
    So the question is, was control of the State Dept. ever wrested from the hands of the traitors or is it still playing games with it’s mates in the Peoples Republic?

  18. rickw

    This is great, the hit song of 2020:

  19. P

    vlad
    #3398279, posted on April 7, 2020 at 4:16 pm

    Sorry if this was said already on the old thread but Honor Blackman has died aged 94.

    Thanks, I missed it with all that’s being going on today.

    Honor Blackman was great in The Avengers. Brings back many good memories of the time.

  20. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    PS Susannah York is smoking hot in this pub scene with Christopher Plummer

    The lady looked almost as good as in the bathtub scene, with Roger Moore in “Gold.”

  21. NoFixedAddress

    Future pandemic planning has got to be overhauled.

    The current structure and implementation is just a failure with ‘expert’ health departments wagging the tail.

    We may as well not have any elected representatives anywhere so all the politicians can be sacked.

    We could of course form more States that reflect the regions rather than having a narrow city centric coterie dictating to the masses as if one size fits all.

  22. It takes me back to Carnarvon in 1983 with headphones on my head. At a ripe old age 4 years.

    Sweet cheeses on a bicycle i had been in the RAN for 6 years in 83.

  23. EvilElvis

    My goodness! You’re just a baby. Marilyn and I got married in Carnarvon in 1980.
    And I was no teenager.

    How long were you in Carnarvon for, MV?

  24. Steve trickler

    Peter the old fossil
    #3398906, posted on April 7, 2020 at 9:02 pm
    It takes me back to Carnarvon in 1983 with headphones on my head. At a ripe old age 4 years.

    My goodness! You’re just a baby. Marilyn and I got married in Carnarvon in 1980.
    And I was no teenager.

    And learning from you and a lot other people here.👍 Head swells are not needed.

  25. rickw

    For numbers, who given his absence, has hopefully been smote:

  26. Ed Case

    ScoMo will lose the next election by a landslide.

    Can’t see it happening. Small time landlords don’t have much pull, but 4 million Aussies having a warm shower in the $cottyBux once a fortnite won’t be keen to throw themselves on the tender mercies of the Labor Party
    Those blokes hate Dole Bludgers.

  27. Infidel Tiger

    The World Health Organization has no blanket recommendation for countries and regions for easing measures to slow the spread of the coronavirus pandemic, but urged them not to lift them too early.

    “One of the most important parts is not to let go of the measures too early in order not to have a fall back again,” WHO spokesman Christian Lindmeier said in a virtual briefing.

    That seals it.

    Reopen everything and back to work straight after Easter.

  28. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Bruce of Newcastle at 9:04 pm:

    ” The @UN reports the lockdowns are leading to a “horrifying surge” in domestic violence.

    Horrifying lack of dosh more likely.

    U.N. official warns of “dire” financial crisis due to coronavirus in leaked documents (4 Apr)

    … caused largely by its very own executives – black African trash wandering freely about the globe, first class and six star, strutting through first world white fella health departments and haughtily telling them how to do their jobs … followed all the way by a lower caste sambo collecting bribes, free stuff and little boys for their pleasure.

  29. EvilElvis

    Paul Murray is an awesome shill for the ScoMo dictatorship.

    Yep, company line all the way now. Fuck the country for two disabled sisters, good job. Bit harsh but FFS there has to be some balance of the scales, a reality check. Then tears up after a nurse gets abused on a train. Leaf on the breeze.

    Thank Christ he’s got some decent commentators on.

  30. rickw

    Famine hot on the heels of pestilence?

  31. Kev

    Aircraft carrier landings -from a USN Pilot during the Vietnam war

    [He said] the three best things in a pilot’s life are a good landing, a good bowel movement and a good orgasm, and when he landed on a carrier in rough weather at night he could have all three at the same time

  32. Bruce in WA

    Sweet cheeses on a bicycle i had been in the RAN for 6 years in 83.

    Married and divorced for a decade by then … 🙁 But I had met my current wife and had three years of joy by then, too.

  33. Mater

    Think the Battle of Britain almost exact opposite of epics nowadays.

    If you look closely, you’ll noticed that the Flight Sgt (the pilot who loses his family during the bombing) is actually Winston (the Continental Hotel owner) from John Wick 1, 2 and 3.

  34. Mother Lode

    I would invite people to recognise that Poida is a leftist whose schtick is to try to make people here wonder if, and possibly react to, the possibility that they are themselves leftists and hence say something discreditable in response.

    He has shown again and again, even as he insists he is the only right wing person on the planet, that he does not understand individualism contrasted with collectivism (he would see a bucket of ranges as collectivists) nor freedom.

    My suspicion is that he has personal hygiene problems too.

    And girls laugh at him.

    And he does not always make it to the bathroom on time.

    He is a very middling intellect (on a good day, on topics he is familar with such as onanism and coprophilia) who comes here trying to to get people to convince him of his genius by either becoming flustered or (surely the holy grail) accepting some small crumb of his ‘logic’.

    Seriously, has anyone read one of his comments and thought the comment (as opposed to uncontroversial elements such as the sum of one and one) had merit.

    Then there is the bathroom thing.

  35. Knuckle Dragger

    Apropos of rickw’s clip *ahem*:

    Hoe.

    Hoe. Hoe, hoe hoe hoe ho.

    China is asshoe.

  36. Peter the old fossil

    A couple of times in the 70’s, Elvis.
    About five years total.

  37. vr

    The Netherlands denies the Chinese government’s claim that it ordered ‘non-medical masks’.

    Hope the Dutch didn’t pay for this upfront. If they hadn’t they can walk away from this.

  38. Arky

    Take a look at the traffic figures for chinese cities.
    They are doing one thing, and one thing only: Working.
    They get up, drive to work, stay there, then drive home, stay at home til the following morning.
    No traffic during the day. No weekend traffic.
    What are they working on?
    There is no demand. The entire world is holed up in their houses watching TV and, apparently, belting their gobby missuses, according to the stock fantasy feminists finger themselves off to.
    So what are they working for? Are they stockpiling millions of flat screen TVs and shit washing machines, just for little old us?
    I don’t fucking think so.

  39. Knuckle Dragger

    Further;

    The gent (the ‘sommelier’) in Wick II with the big necklace and Pommy accent handing the shooters and cutlery out in Italy is The Sherminator from the original American Pie.

  40. cohenite

    I’m disgusted’: Father of dead choirboy slams Pell ruling

    It’s nein so no mention the dead son disavowed being molested.

  41. Beertruk

    Sweet cheeses on a bicycle i had been in the RAN for 6 years in 83.

    bugger, i meant 3 years.

    I had been in the ARA 4 years in 83.

  42. JC:

    Africa is not credible. Any excuse for free cashola. Don’ rely on anything those idiots say when it comes to money. They just want a free ride.

    Yes.
    That’s why they call it “African Rules.”

  43. Tel

    Paul Murray is an awesome shill for the ScoMo dictatorship.

    Come on, look at the big picture … Murray will shill for anyone, and whatever he does the libertarians get blamed so I don’t see how he can lose.

  44. rickw

    I just realised we’ve been a couple of hours without something on the FN FAL.

    Something from Henry Chan (“rooftop chinaman”):

  45. EvilElvis

    A couple of times in the 70’s, Elvis.
    About five years total.

    My old man used to be in the bakery in the early seventies and met my mum there. Small world.

  46. struth

    This country does not deserve freedom and will not get the little they had back.
    Unless somehow Trump can pull a rabbit out of his hat that applies pressure it ain’t happening.
    National hysteria over the mostly non leathal kung flu caused by msm wrecking the joint on purpose means those that would fight this would not be up against just the corrupt political elite but a feminized emasculated nation of imbiciles.
    A nation ever quick to condemn middle age western white men and their terrible toxic masculinity and colonialism.
    Of which I am one.
    So fuck it.
    After seeing more bedwetting insanity today and a realisation that it’s not a winnable fight due to the national hysteria…….the people are as bad as the pollies.
    That we didn’t move against them the second they took over and stole our freedom means no one gets it or even cares outside a few people here and there.
    As a dispised white man I release myself from giving a shit. .
    I own what I have and am armed.
    Good luck.

  47. Steve trickler

    Long version. 👌



  48. Rex Mango

    Good dogfight scenes now. Very hard to do air to air photography well. Up until Top Gun, this was about as good as it got. We’ve got two Spitfires/Hurricanes in same shot as a smoking Heinkel spears in.

  49. Peter the old fossil

    Been a long day after a string of long days – time for an early night.
    Play nice, guys.

  50. feelthebern

    My old man used to be in the bakery in the early seventies and met my mum there.

    Insert joke about bun in the oven ?

  51. Rex Mango

    rickw, here is a bloke that loves the FN FAL, unlike others on this blog:

  52. Rex Mango

    More great arial shots now with Battle of Britain. There was a good American film about F86 Sabres fighting Mig15 in Korean War that was very good.

  53. MsDolittle

    Your booking has been created into a flight credit.

    Qantas impersonating god and cancelling my flight.

  54. cohenite

    Some comparative figures between H1N1 (Swine) and the chunk virus:

    H1N1 world wide infections: 0.7–1.4 billion
    Deaths: 151,700–575,400

    Chunk world wide infections to date: 1,360,039
    Deaths: 75,973 (many of which are concurrent in that the victim was suffering from another deadly illness)

  55. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Your booking has been created into a flight credit.’

    Be thankful it’s a flight credit, Ms D.

    If it was a cruise ship credit you can kiss that piece of shit goodbye.

  56. NoFixedAddress

    Kev
    #3398958, posted on April 7, 2020 at 9:30 pm

    Aircraft carrier landings -from a USN Pilot during the Vietnam war

    ++++lol

  57. EvilElvis

    Insert joke about bun in the oven ?

    I was the bun! Turned out to be a few slices short of a loaf…

  58. JC

    But it’s not a flu type illness, cronkite. It’s a SARS like illness.
    Also, your basic analysis in dead wrong. (pun intended)

    Your giving the stats for the entirety of the swine flu. We have not yet reached the end of this pandemic. Also, we didn’t have a large percentage of the world locked down during the Swine flu like we do now.

    Ask someone half way numerate and able to look through basic numbers before you post a comment.
    Please stop being an idiot.

  59. Rex Mango

    Community Service Announcement: Susannah York now in stockings suspenders & about to bang Christopher Plummer.

  60. bespoke

    Struth

    Stay safe 😎

  61. cohenite

    Keith Pitt, the federal resource minister on Murray with a mohawk haircut. These are amazing times. I wonder which pollie will first sport a face tattoo.

  62. Arky:
    Don’t mind me, I’m a little pissed.

    So what are they working for? Are they stockpiling millions of flat screen TVs and shit washing machines, just for little old us?
    I don’t fucking think so.

    Under what circumstances does a nation not require an industrial base when it goes to war?

    Answer: If it is able to prosecute that war without any further production because for the last twenty years it has overproduced offensive and defensive stocks by 5% each year.
    (I’m not saying this has happened – I’m saying the concept should be considered.)

  63. Confused Old Misfit

    created into

    Angels and Ministers of Grace, dsfend us!

  64. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    [He said] the three best things in a pilot’s life are a good landing, a good bowel movement and a good orgasm, and when he landed on a carrier in rough weather at night he could have all three at the same time

    One of the locals here was a carrier pilot, United States Navy, during the Vietnam War. He attributes all his problems to having a 75year old body, with a hundred and five year old spine.

  65. ZK2A:

    One of the locals here was a carrier pilot, United States Navy, during the Vietnam War. He attributes all his problems to having a 75year old body, with a hundred and five year old spine.

    I’ll do a swap.
    With the meds I’m on, I’m running a good couple of meters ahead of that Methuselah bastard.

  66. cohenite

    STFU head prefect. H1N1 lasted a year and basically the world did bugger all. The point you pinhead was currently we have just over 1.3 million with the chunk virus which has been going, if you accept some estimates, since last November and the 6th month is just ticking over and 76000 deaths. As I have been saying the chunk doesn’t seem to be as contagious as the swine but has a higher mortality rate; except in Australia.

    The real issue is the reaction this time to the chunk compared to the swine. Either some one knows something or we have been sold a pup.

    Now take off your loafers head prefect and use your toes and fingers to count to 26.

  67. Fisky

    China in Focus – NTD
    @ChinaInFocusNTD
    ·
    28s
    The Chinese regime claims the #CCPVirus is under control, but the #CCP leader #Xijinping was recently seen wearing a mask again. He was spotted with no mask at the end of March while visiting a province. Some are now speculating the epidemic in Beijing may have worsened.

    Oh dear!

  68. Rex Mango

    Ok, Boxheads under Herman Goering have switched attacks away from the airfields to London. Battle of Britain is now over. This unfortunately where the movie falls down. There was no definitive ending to the Battle of Britain & the movie shows that. Too historically accurate.

  69. Tel

    As I have been saying the chunk doesn’t seem to be as contagious as the swine but has a higher mortality rate; except in Australia.

    I disagree, this WuFlu is plenty contagious, but often hard to detect which means all the infection numbers are too low. It’s already doing the first comeback round in China right now, so they didn’t keep it under control. I’ve always been suspicious about crossover in and out of pets like cats and dogs, and the astounding thing is that none of the “government will save you” type people have even bothered to study that … being a heck of a lot more interested in power grabs than actually doing anything useful. Like I said, this virus will come back more times than Freddy Kruger on a bad acid flashback, but hopefully lethality will reduce as it mutates, and better medications become available. Forget the vaccine, ain’t happening.

    H1N1 had extremely obvious symptoms and not even slightly sneaky, not comparing like with like.

  70. JC

    Cronkite

    You showed stats the were for the end of the swine fly, you dullard. Comparing those numbers with the china bug is simply incorrect. We’re not at the end of this yet and also, as I said, we didn’t have a lockdown during the swine flu. You cannot make that comparison without looking like an idiot. Sometimes I’m left speechless with the level of stupidity you demonstrate. Like Felicity, you need to return your law license too and demand to know you were issued one in the first place.

  71. Bruce in WA

    For some reason, only managed 3 hours’ sleep last night, so dead on my feet now. iPad is showing 98% charge, so I might just go upstairs to bed and read … for all of 15 minutes!

    Night all.

    What a big day! I hoped so much for the HC decision! Maybe someone does listen …

  72. mh

    Sweden reporting 114 new COVID-19 deaths.

    The laissez faire approach will be under scrutiny.

  73. JC

    mh
    #3399070, posted on April 7, 2020 at 10:42 pm

    Sweden reporting 114 new COVID-19 deaths.

    The laissez faire approach will be under scrutiny.

    It’s Bloomberg so be wary. I read yesterday they’re a hair trigger away from calling a complete lockdown too.

  74. Rex Mango

    Tel, thanks for the good news.

  75. Leigh Lowe

    Bruce in WA

    #3399068, posted on April 7, 2020 at 10:41 pm

    For some reason, only managed 3 hours’ sleep last night, so dead on my feet now. iPad is showing 98% charge, so I might just go upstairs to bed and read … for all of 15 minutes!

    Night all.

    What a big day! I hoped so much for the HC decision! Maybe someone does listen …

    Ditto.
    Maybe I was worried about this decision.
    Big day.

  76. harrys on the boat

    It’s bloody obvious while we’re doing so well. It’s not the season. Been over 30 degs in Perth throughout. Started in summer. Heat, dry heat, UV rays, vitamin D. We tend to be healthy buggers, urban sprawl so natural distancing, plus we hate each other.

    Was it here I heard the theory that with all the Chicom students and tourists we’ve probably had it here since November and it’s been round the population at the best possible time.

    Either way, end this fucking bullshit now.

  77. Rex Mango

    Keith Park, who just made the Polish Sqn operational was a Kiwi & pretty much the mastermind behind the whole RAF defence of the UK in the Battle of Britain.

  78. NoFixedAddress

    Amazing the filth that j’ism produces

    Walter Duranty was the spiv for the soviet communists and I only just learned of this shill for Mao z dung

    An overlooked anniversary
    By Lloyd Billingsley

    With China much in the news, the establishment media missed a chance to recall America’s greatest promoter of the communist regime, who died 50 years ago.

    “Anna Louise Strong, the American who spent most of her life writing books and articles extolling the virtues of Communism, died today of a heart attack in Peking, where she had lived for the last 12 years,” the New York Times reported on March 30, 1970.

    In China, the Nebraska-born Strong championed Mao Zedong, whom she first interviewed back in 1946. The Communist Party chairman set up Strong with an apartment, automobile, secretary, cook, and maid. Strong dutifully recycled the regime’s propaganda in her monthly “Letter from China,” but the American felt bound to carry out other duties.

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/04/an_overlooked_anniversary.html

  79. Dave in Marybrook

    How much of Sweden’s laissez-faire approach is to do with the no-go [email protected] ghettoes which they’ve installed around every major city?

  80. Tel

    We’re not at the end of this yet and also, as I said, we didn’t have a lockdown during the swine flu. You cannot make that comparison without looking like an idiot.

    Personally I think the “lockdown” was absolutely stupid, completely unhelpful, and serves no medical purpose whatsoever. Kids are spreading the virus via schools and childcare which are too sacred to close, and from talking with people, I can tell you that governments simply are not testing kids. Therefore the virus is still spreading, going via government-approved routes, while some teenager gets busted for learning to drive and that does not help anyone, but might fill quotas and tax revenue.

    Having said that, with swine flu you either got sick or you didn’t and then it was over. Psychologically that’s easier to deal with … the enemy that shows itself. People freak out a lot more over hidden enemies, and that’s why governments could get such excellent leverage from the “War on Terror” because no one had any idea where the next attack would come from. Also, it’s a lot easier to whip up panic over a hidden bad guy than it is when everyone can see it for themselves … thus the power grab becomes more feasible.

  81. Steve trickler

    Sleep well everyone.



  82. Fat Tony

    mh
    #3399070, posted on April 7, 2020 at 10:42 pm
    Sweden reporting 114 new COVID-19 deaths.
    The laissez faire approach will be under scrutiny.

    Like the other countries in Europe, what is the cntribution by the MENA imports?

  83. mh

    Dave in Marybrook
    #3399086, posted on April 7, 2020 at 10:51 pm
    How much of Sweden’s laissez-faire approach is to do with the no-go [email protected] ghettoes which they’ve installed around every major city?

    Boris Johnson had a laissez-faire approach too, up until about March 20.
    Then his government had a rethink.

  84. feelthebern

    Pat Robertson blames coronavirus on oral sex.

  85. Rex Mango

    ftb, oral sex is good for no-one besides the giver.

  86. cohenite

    Sometimes I’m left speechless with the level of stupidity you demonstrate.

    Alright I’ll try harder if you undertake to be speechless for longer.

    As I said Tel, either this chunk virus is much worse than we think – maybe the asymptomatic infected will get the thing harder later – and some one knows something else or the chunk virus is just the cover.

    It’s all to conspiratorial for me and head prefect is being a dickhead so I’ll piss off and read a book about the Barrymores.

  87. MatrixTransform

    went for a walk this arvo down the wetlands.
    council by-laws officer pulled up the van and got out.
    strode out like he owned the place

    too close cowboy … watch yr fucking step

    I’m not as nice as I appear at first sight.

    … shit’s getting outta hand

  88. Howard Hill

    ScoMo will lose the next election by a landslide.

    Everyone says this but who are they going to vote for, ANAL?

  89. egg_

    Japan declares a state of emergency after rise in cases in Tokyo
    Japanese prime minister Shinzo Abe has declared a state of emergency to fight new coronavirus infections in major population centres.

    He also unveiled a stimulus package he described as among the world’s biggest to soften the economic blow.

    Abe announced the state of emergency targeting the capital Tokyo and six other prefectures – accounting for about 44% of Japan’s population – for a period of about one month.

    “We have decided to declare a state of emergency because we’ve judged that a fast spread of the coronavirus nationwide would have an enormous impact on lives and the economy,” he told parliament earlier.

    His cabinet will also finalise the stimulus package worth 108 trillion yen ($990 billion) – equal to 20% of Japan’s economic output – to cushion the impact of the epidemic on the world’s third-largest economy.

    Coronavirus infections in Tokyo more than doubled to about 1,200 in the past week, with more than 80 new ones reported on Tuesday, accounting for the highest number in the country. Nationwide, cases have climbed past 4,000 with 93 deaths as of Monday.

    The emergency gives governors the authority to call on people to stay at home and businesses to close. With no penalties for ignoring the requests in most cases, enforcement will rely more on peer pressure and respect for authority.

    Tokyo governor Yuriko Koike said the city was in talks with the central government to decide what types of facilities it would ask to close or curtail business hours, while reiterating there would be no restrictions on buying groceries and medicine.

    /The Guardian

  90. MatrixTransform

    who are they going to vote for

    for the most part, voters are retarded

  91. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    It’s all to conspiratorial for me and head prefect is being a dickhead so I’ll piss off and read a book about the Barrymores.

    I’m reading a very good book about the sinking of the “Titanic”, by one Gareth Russell. It pulls to pieces a lot of the myths about that disaster….

    Head prefect being a dickhead? What changes?

  92. Rex Mango

    End of movie and sky over Britain as free of aircraft as sky over Australia right now.

    PS – In closing titles they just showed stat that less than 2,00o German bomber crews were KIA in Battle of Britain. Around 6,000 Australians were killed over Europe in Bomber Command

  93. Old School Conservative

    Then tears up after a nurse gets abused on a train

    In all fairness to PM, he was recounting the death of his little son in the same ward as the nurse worked.

  94. Mark A

    NoFixedAddress
    #3399083, posted on April 7, 2020 at 10:51 pm

    Amazing the filth that j’ism produces

    Walter Duranty was the spiv for the soviet communists and I only just learned of this shill for Mao z dung

    They are still with us, probably in greater numbers but more subtle perhaps at least some of them, others come out in your face, sensing victory no need to hide.

  95. mh

    New deaths for England 758, so UK daily toll will be a biggie tonight.

  96. Fat Tony

    Howard Hill
    #3399120, posted on April 7, 2020 at 11:24 pm
    ScoMo will lose the next election by a landslide.
    Everyone says this but who are they going to vote for, ANAL?

    Choice between LNP and LNPLite (Labour)

    Maybe it’s time to get the conservative vote together – what’s Australia 1 Party doing? (R Bosi)
    A strong conservative party could have its best chance in the next elections (if we are allowed to have them)

  97. Howard Hill

    After seeing more bedwetting insanity today and a realisation that it’s not a winnable fight due to the national hysteria…….the people are as bad as the pollies.
    That we didn’t move against them the second they took over and stole our freedom means no one gets it or even cares outside a few people here and there.
    As a dispised white man I release myself from giving a shit. .
    I own what I have and am armed.
    Good luck.

    I told you it wasn’t worth it. good to see you’ve woken up. Time to call for further lockdowns. The place needs utter destroying, it’s the only way.
    Lets not do this by halves, burn the whole joint to the ground so that they all get what they wanted, then we can step in and create a new. The left will not own this place, I can assure you of that!

  98. Mark A

    Q: What’s the difference between a BMW and a porcupine?

    A: A porcupine has pricks on the outside.

  99. Howard Hill

    R Bosi

    I’ve listened to all he has to say, but the sheep all think he’s a conspiracy nutter, he’ll go nowhere.

  100. Howard Hill

    That’s a scream, Mark A. 🙂

  101. Howard Hill

    MatrixTransform
    #3399124, posted on April 7, 2020 at 11:27 pm

    who are they going to vote for

    for the most part, voters are retarded

    Did you model that MT? Show us your code!

  102. MatrixTransform

    row => row.has("wtf")

  103. Infidel Tiger

    BREAKING: England’s coronavirus death toll rose by 758
    England’s coronavirus death toll rose by 758 in 24 hours to 5,655, according to figures just released by the Department of Health. 29 of the 758 had no known underlying health conditions.

    29/758 were otherwise thought to be healthy.

  104. MatrixTransform

    in a a language nobody ever never heard of

  105. Howard Hill

    for the most part >= NFA | sprintf(“They’re all Fucked in the head”);

  106. NoFixedAddress

    If your in ICU with a CCP Virus and they say they will put you on a Ventilator… your fucked.

    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/04/ventilators-are-no-panacea.php

    Further, ventilators themselves are not risk-free:

    When we mechanically blow air into your damaged lungs faster and harder than humanly possible, ventilator-induced lung injury may result. Generally, for a person to tolerate the undertaking, we have to sedate them, leading to immobility and severe weakness. While sedated, the person cannot cough or clear their airway effectively, leading to superimposed bacterial pneumonia.

    This is an awful lot to survive.

    So far, the data are not encouraging:

    [I]n the case of COVID-19, the preliminary outcome data is rather dismal. On Monday, the New England Journal of Medicine published a case series of very ill COVID-19 patients in Seattle with data up to March 23: of the 20 patients who went on a ventilator, only four had so far escaped the hospital alive. Nine had died. Three remained in suspended animation, going on three or four weeks of ventilation. Four escaped the ventilator but remained in hospital.

  107. Fisky

    Oh dear! Who has been telling porkies??

    https://twitter.com/jenniferatntd/status/1247522839147597825

    Jennifer Zeng 曾錚
    @jenniferatntd
    ·
    5m

    Somewhere in #Wuhan, people moving body secretly as “zero new cases” has become a political task, and communities dare not break the “zero new cases” record, so they arrange to have the body moved at midnight.
    #CCPVirus #COVID2019 #Coronavirus #CoronavirusPandemic

  108. Howard Hill

    UK Cops Broadcast “Corona Rap”

    Yo, this is Derby Police.
    Don’t be afraid, we come in peace.
    The government said so listen up quick.
    Take our advice and you may not get sick.
    Stay at home whenever you can.
    Don’t go out on the streets with your fam.
    Don’t walk around in two or more, or we’ll come knocking at your door.
    Only go to the shop for essential things like bread, milk, fruit and cheese strings.
    Go stretch your legs but only one time.
    Do as we say or you might get a fine.
    Please help us to fight this disease.
    Lots of love from your favorite PCs.

    Now I know we’re totally fucked. FMD!

  109. EvilElvis

    In all fairness to PM, he was recounting the death of his little son in the same ward as the nurse worked.

    Fair enough, OSC. I’ll take that back. I thought it was a bit over emotional for the story attached. Terrible business.

  110. MatrixTransform


    do =>
    "fuck this shit"
    end

  111. Old School Conservative

    No worries EE.

  112. Howard Hill

    LOL!

    const char *PM=DICKHEAD;
    const char *MSM=ELVIL_FILTH;
    const char *PLEBS_ARE_DUMB;

    if ( PM >= MSM ) {
    PLEBS = FUCKED;
    sprintf( “We’re all Scrwed”);
    }
    if ( PLEBS == FUCKED ) {
    sprintf( “Sing Corona Rap” );
    return;
    }

  113. Arky

    What a fucking great idea it was to spend four decades totally rejigging our economy to centre around education and services.
    Wow.
    It’s working out great.
    And sending raw materials to our major geo- political rival, a totalitarian communist regime that has been systematically trying to fuck us since 1949.
    To all our politicians and leaders, past and present: I shit on you.

  114. Fisky

    What a fucking great idea it was to spend four decades totally rejigging our economy to centre around education and services.
    Wow.
    It’s working out great.
    And sending raw materials to our major geo- political rival, a totalitarian communist regime that has been systematically trying to fuck us since 1949.

    A massive success isn’t it!

  115. Howard Hill

    European Union Approves Bugs For Human Consumption

    This puts a whole new meaning on: “Let them eat cake!”

  116. egg_

    of the 20 patients who went on a ventilator, only four had so far escaped the hospital alive. Nine had died.

    Yup, lying them on their stomach whilst on a ventilator increases their chances immensely, per upthread.
    It’s a strange bug, that’s for sure.

  117. Infidel Tiger

    What a fucking great idea it was to spend four decades totally rejigging our economy to centre around education and services.
    Wow.
    It’s working out great.
    And sending raw materials to our major geo- political rival, a totalitarian communist regime that has been systematically trying to fuck us since 1949.
    To all our politicians and leaders, past and present: I shit on you.

    Sure it looks grim now, but it’ll be right once the immigration spigot is turned back on and 400,000 third worlders arrive per annum.

  118. Howard Hill

    How to cook Grasshoppers

    Grasshoppers are a crunchy, delicious treat enjoyed around the world in countries like Mexico and Uganda. Just one grasshopper contains 6 grams (0.21 oz) of protein and many people think the world should harvest more insects to help people in need of healthy, nourishing meals.[1] As long as you cook your grasshoppers, whether boiling or frying them, they will be safe to eat and ready in minutes. If you want to know how to cook grasshoppers in a variety of ways, see Step 1 to get started.

  119. Mark A

    Arky
    #3399176, posted on April 8, 2020 at 12:29 am

    What a fucking great idea it was to spend four decades totally rejigging our economy to centre around education and services.
    Wow.
    It’s working out great.
    And sending raw materials to our major geo- political rival, a totalitarian communist regime that has been systematically trying to fuck us since 1949.
    To all our politicians and leaders, past and present: I shit on you.

    Does this mean you don’t approve, or just having a few misgivings?

  120. NoFixedAddress

    Send this to the national cabinet and its henchpersons who after all are only following order.

  121. Fisky

    Reparations are unavoidable!

    Washington Examiner
    @dcexaminer
    · 17m
    “I’d make China pay big time.”

    @LindseyGrahamSC says China should pay for the pandemic.
    https://washex.am/2VdXusN

  122. Mark A

    Howard Hill
    #3399189, posted on April 8, 2020 at 12:43 am

    As long as you cook your grasshoppers, whether boiling or frying them, they will be safe to eat and ready in minutes. If you want to know how to cook grasshoppers in a variety of ways, see Step 1 to get started.

    I stick to my steaks thank you if it’s alright with you, even if it takes a bit more time.

  123. Howard Hill

    Always thought it was funny that the elites say we should live disarmed in squalor, eating the filth of the earth, but they still dine on caviar and lobster behind 10 foot stone walls surrounded by armed security guards and taking baths in the milk of unicorns.

    The sooner their heads are on pikes the better.

  124. Howard Hill

    I stick to my steaks thank you if it’s alright with you

    Are you sure that’s steak you’re eating, Mark A? I mean, how do you know it’s not reconstituted slugs with food dye?

  125. C.L.

    Interesting piece at the Jewish Tablet on the role lunatic ‘consultants’ played in destroying American economic independence:

    The Coronavirus Didn’t Cause This Crisis by Itself. McKinsey Helped.

    So whose brilliant idea was it to outsource the production of critical medical supplies and life-saving medicines to China, an authoritarian, mercantilist state hostile to U.S. global hegemony? And whose idea was it to replace the one-earner family with the two-earner household as the norm?

    The answer in both cases is American business, aided by ideologues—libertarian ideologues in the case of offshoring, and so-called “corporate feminists” in the case of family structure (as we shall see, the present dominant form of feminism is only one among several schools). And in both cases the motivation of American business was the same—reducing the wages it had to pay to American workers.

    Let’s begin with offshoring. “Unbundling” is the term popularized by McKinsey and other consulting firms and business theorists in the 1990s for the process of dismantling the pride of postwar American capitalism—vertically-integrated industrial behemoths like GM and IBM. Vertical integration had been a mistake, the consultants claimed with the passion of evangelists. There was no need for massive industrial complexes in which iron and coke and petrochemicals went in at one end and a steel-and-plastic car or refrigerator came out at the other, with unionized, well-paid workers with generous benefits laboring on assembly lines in between. Businesses should focus on their “core competencies” and try to replace production, finance and bookkeeping with arm’s-length contracts with external contractors.

    Worth reading. Not very long.

  126. C.L.

    Interesting piece at the J-ew1s-h Tablet on the role lunatic ‘consultants’ played in destroying American economic independence:

    The Coronavirus Didn’t Cause This Crisis by Itself. McKinsey Helped.

    So whose brilliant idea was it to outsource the production of critical medical supplies and life-saving medicines to China, an authoritarian, mercantilist state hostile to U.S. global hegemony? And whose idea was it to replace the one-earner family with the two-earner household as the norm?

    The answer in both cases is American business, aided by ideologues—libertarian ideologues in the case of offshoring, and so-called “corporate feminists” in the case of family structure (as we shall see, the present dominant form of feminism is only one among several schools). And in both cases the motivation of American business was the same—reducing the wages it had to pay to American workers.

    Let’s begin with offshoring. “Unbundling” is the term popularized by McKinsey and other consulting firms and business theorists in the 1990s for the process of dismantling the pride of postwar American capitalism—vertically-integrated industrial behemoths like GM and IBM. Vertical integration had been a mistake, the consultants claimed with the passion of evangelists. There was no need for massive industrial complexes in which iron and coke and petrochemicals went in at one end and a steel-and-plastic car or refrigerator came out at the other, with unionized, well-paid workers with generous benefits laboring on assembly lines in between. Businesses should focus on their “core competencies” and try to replace production, finance and bookkeeping with arm’s-length contracts with external contractors.

    Worth reading. Not very long.

  127. Nelson Kidd-Players

    Dolittle, if Qàntas have canceled on you, perhaps its worth pushing for a refund.

  128. Nelson Kidd-Players

    Might need to make references to consumer law.

  129. JC

    Let’s be clear and wide eyed about all this. Despite the hoopla, American business has the highest return on capital in the world. At the other side of the profitability spectrum, there are comparatively few Chinese companies that produce an adequate rate of return.

  130. NoFixedAddress

    Mark A

    Look what you are missing out on,

    The use of edible insects has a long history in China, where they have been consumed for more than 2000 years. In general, the level of acceptance is high for the consumption of insects in China. Many studies on edible insects have been conducted in the last 20 years, and the scope of the research includes the culture of entomophagy and the identification, nutritional value, farming and breeding of edible insects, in addition to food production and safety.

    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/1744-7917.12449

  131. C.L.

    The US economy has got to be able to make gear, though, JC – vertically.

  132. Seven States Mencius

    “Let’s be clear and wide eyed about all this. Despite the hoopla, American business has the highest return on capital in the world.”

    For the love of God man you know nothing. HIgh return on capital is in no way a measure of societal health. If anything its a sign of huge deficits, low savings rates and artificially cheap money.

  133. NoFixedAddress

    JC
    #3399201, posted on April 8, 2020 at 1:05 am

    Let’s be clear and wide eyed about all this. Despite the hoopla, American business has the highest return on capital in the world. At the other side of the profitability spectrum, there are comparatively few Chinese companies that produce an adequate rate of return.

    JC

    The CCP have no interest in what you or I say about anything.

    They are on the long march through the entire world.

  134. Fisky

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    8m
    The W.H.O. really blew it. For some reason, funded largely by the United States, yet very China centric. We will be giving that a good look. Fortunately I rejected their advice on keeping our borders open to China early on. Why did they give us such a faulty recommendation?

  135. Howard Hill

    How long before you question if that steak is the remains of your dead carona neighbour?
    If they’re starting to push bugs, you can bet that Soylent Green will be next.
    I mean, who thought our zebra crossings would be painted in rainbow colours and that babies could be killed after birth?

  136. Seven States Mencius

    “The US economy has got to be able to make gear, though, JC – vertically.”

    The US economy has been screwed since the last bailout cartelised them. Now it may seem that the fantastic spruiker capacities of the current President has lead to a rash of new jobs. But the basics have not been done and so these new jobs will turn out to be ephemeral. While the house was being burned down the same people that robbed the country in 2008 have rushed in and stolen everything without putting out the fire. So there is a second act of cartelisation going on. So the US economy will be rendered demi-communist and will be useless for all purposes.

    High profits are a result of lack of savings, deficits and high monetary growth which can be shown directly in formulaic fashion. But high profit rates in the big companies is the goal of financial cartelisation. Because a financial cartel needs bit companies that have such monopoly power they cannot go broke in order to extend debt contracts too.

    A competitive situation is a profit erasure and spreading machine. If there is no monopolisation, then the profits are spread over the production chain for healthy reinvestment at all levels.

  137. NoFixedAddress

    Seven States Mencius
    #3399205, posted on April 8, 2020 at 1:08 am

    You come up with some great names Mencius

    Please tell us your sage and wise advice for the current situation

  138. Seven States Mencius

    What the current situation shows is the great power of the sole trader economy. If the sole traders are cashed up and tooled up they can spin on a dime in and change production to meet any crisis. I have the empirical evidence for this. Two words. Shane Warne. A nation of cashed up, low debt tooled up sole traders and small manufacturers is a society that cannot be beaten. When they see we cannot be beaten then they will respect us. If not fear us.

    If we see the current crisis the main problem is the delusion that capital accumulation can come through debt contracts and not through retained earnings. For do we not see the main problem being that the small businessman must pay his debts now, and yet has not the revenues to do so? The debts are the problem. And the lack of debt-free producer goods.

    In Los Angeles a small company has done their own research to save all our asses. They are in the process of producing the perfect low-cost mask, and publishing the design out in the open. At the same time the big businesses have been shown to be useless communist vessels. If not outright traitors.

    The small business is a tooled up team of but 30 workers. This is the solution to our problem. Small business. No interest paying debt. Lots of cash. Too many tools.

  139. Mark A

    Howard Hill
    #3399195, posted on April 8, 2020 at 12:55 am

    I stick to my steaks thank you if it’s alright with you

    Are you sure that’s steak you’re eating, Mark A? I mean, how do you know it’s not reconstituted slugs with food dye?

    Does moooing and baahing before they are humanely slaughtered gives a hint?

  140. Mark A

    Hello Graham, nice to see.
    You are welcome, sorry I have no say in your stay.

  141. jupes

    Can’t remember the sequence but the other pilots gave him a cheer and he was told don’t worry about pissing yourself. You wouldn’t be human if you didn’t.

    Yeah right. As if that happened.

  142. Mark A

    NoFixedAddress
    #3399202, posted on April 8, 2020 at 1:07 am

    Mark A

    Look what you are missing out on,

    Take your word for it but respectfully decline .

  143. Seven States Mencius

    Well there is no Graham here. But would you not say that the fellow you speak of is often spectacularly vindicated with the passage of time?

    What has been giving me the drizzling shits is welfare queens like feelthebern and JC spouting their destructive welfare queen bullshit and feeling no pushback. Don’t you know that they have the same bad instincts of a Malcolm Turnbull, and every bad move they advocate would cost us a fortune. Yet you all suck it up as if they have valuable opinions on things.

    For example JC just the other day was saying that the answer was to take away all royalties and auction off property rights. A complete disaster. But note how it would make auction prices go through the roof, so that all that loot was on the table for banker overhead. Everything they say is either wrong or deeply harmful.

  144. JC

    CL

    The US manufacturing sector is no slouch. The US is the largest manufacture in the world, producing 18% of global manufacturing output. Note also, this figure, unlike many other countries doesn’t include construction- neither commercial nor residential.
    All told manufacturing represent around 12% of US output.

    In global terms, China is around 17% of world manufacturing.

    I think part of the issue is this. Rather than looking at the volumes produced etc. we tend to weigh manufacturing as a percentage of GDP. In rich countries – especially wealthy ones like the US, services account for a large portion of consumer spending. Moreover, in real terms manufactured goods have become relatively cheaper, which impacts on the weight in GDP.

    We’ve been talking about this for a while and a short time ago, I looked at my spending habits on my bank statements. My spending on services would be ~70% of my annual consumption.

    I’ll give you another idea of what it’s like. I have a pal who is very wealthy. He spends over a million dollars a year on services related to travel. Now, he doesn’t eat more than you or I do and doesn’t buy a new TV every couple months. Consequently his consumption of manufactured goods would be no different to a middle class family.

    One other thing about the US. The categorization of technology in my mind is problematic. Is it really just an ordinary service or is it a form of virtual manufacturing?

    https://www.thebalance.com/u-s-manufacturing-what-it-is-statistics-and-outlook-3305575

  145. egg_

    Obama bailed out GM during the ’07 GFC.
    Now GM is making ventilators for CV-19.

  146. Mark A

    jupes
    #3399218, posted on April 8, 2020 at 1:31 am

    Can’t remember the sequence but the other pilots gave him a cheer and he was told don’t worry about pissing yourself. You wouldn’t be human if you didn’t.

    Yeah right. As if that happened.

    Nice stories, along the lines of “my nana told me”
    Happens when actually dying but hardly ever with trained professionals doing the tasks they were trained to do.

  147. Howard Hill

    Does moooing and baahing before they are humanely slaughtered gives a hint?

    I dunno Mark, there’s a reason they’re called slugs. I would rely on what they say?

  148. JC

    For the love of God man you know nothing. HIgh return on capital is in no way a measure of societal health. If anything its a sign of huge deficits, low savings rates and artificially cheap money.

    Okay Seven let’s test your hypothesis. Low return on capital, outright losses or breakeven is a sign of decent societal health, small deficits, high savings and very tight money. The very opposite of high returns on capital.

    Seven, I’ve always warned you tom stay away from economics, because you say some very stupid shit at times.

  149. Mark A

    Seven States Mencius
    #3399220, posted on April 8, 2020 at 1:34 am

    Well there is no Graham here. But would you not say that the fellow you speak of is often spectacularly vindicated with the passage of time?

    Graham or not I have no problem with you or him, enjoy your comments, keep off a certain topic and you could stay for a while.
    Not for ever as Mr Davidson assured you the last time.

  150. Howard Hill

    You trader kunts are all that’s wrong with this world. You’re just a bunch of parasites that produce nothing, you’ve sucked the life out of the whole planet and now you’re all shitting yourselves coz the moolah’s run out.
    When the plebs all get used to eating bugs, guess what? Parasites are bugs and you’re on the menu whahahah!

  151. Mark A

    Howard Hill
    #3399226, posted on April 8, 2020 at 1:39 am

    Does moooing and baahing before they are humanely slaughtered gives a hint?

    I dunno Mark, there’s a reason they’re called slugs. I would rely on what they say?

    I have to chew on this.
    Too cryptic for me.

    My family owns farms we have cattle and sheep, we take it to the local abattoir, take home the carcass.
    Don’t know where the slugs come into play?

  152. Seven States Mencius

    Lets hope this Mr Davidson you speak of is a reformed human locust swarm. Instead of active human locust swarms like JC and feelthebern. Night after night after night JC comes back only to demand another handout and to point the bone at Australian manufacturing.

    We can become a manufacturing superpower but we have to want that outcome. JC makes a link that says American manufacturing is growing. Well you know. Everything goes up and down. But to the extent it is growing thats not unrelated to having a President who wanted it to grow. For thirty years in this country we have had all these human locust swarms getting about wanting Australian manufacturing to die or go away.

  153. JC

    And the return of manufacturing to the US is happening and will continue to do so because of incredible robotics technology. But the jobs in big numbers won’t be as visible.

    At General Motors (ticker: GM), 13,000 of the 30,000 robots in its plants worldwide are now connected. Each day, those robots feed operating data into the cloud. GM uses the data to do predictive maintenance on its machines to improve plant uptime.

    “One [percentage point] improvement in uptime is significant,” says Dan Grieshaber, GM’s director of global manufacturing engineering integration. “We got seven [percentage points] improvement in our first month with data analytics. That’s huge dollars.”

    Technology is also enabling robots to do more. The sorting of red and green pills in the Fanuc facility wasn’t directed by any human. The machines recognize color and can react to object orientation and a changing environment like never before.

    A fast-growing niche is collaborative robots, or cobots. These smaller robots work alongside humans and are cheaper, easier to program, and appeal to smaller enterprises that wouldn’t have considered robotic automation in the past.

    The new technologies are part of what manufacturing executives are calling the next industrial revolution, one that makes robotic automation accessible to a wider assortment of customers. Already, growth has been explosive. Robot deliveries have grown 19% a year on average for the past five years, up from the 5% annual growth averaged in the previous 20 years.

    https://www.barrons.com/articles/its-time-to-invest-in-companies-in-the-vanguard-of-the-robotic-revolution-51550280539?mod=article_inline

  154. JC

    Howard

    I blame the Rothschilds.

  155. Seven States Mencius

    “You trader kunts are all that’s wrong with this world. You’re just a bunch of parasites that produce nothing, you’ve sucked the life out of the whole planet and now you’re all shitting yourselves coz the moolah’s run out.
    When the plebs all get used to eating bugs, guess what? Parasites are bugs and you’re on the menu whahahah!”

    Amen.

    And now everyday JC shows up to taunt Australian manufacturing, as if we could wish ourselves out of trouble rather than produce ourselves out of this disaster that subsidising the banks has led us into.

  156. Seven States Mencius

    No you don’t blame the Rothschild you parasite but you should. Because the trail runs out at that point. Maybe if you go around to their house there is a lizard following them in and out of their room with a laser pointed at their heads. But the audit trail doesn’t go that far. I blame parasites in general.

    If you use cheap loanable funds for mortgages and bullshit rather than for manufacturing equipment you are starving producers and creating parasite overhead.

  157. JC

    Seven

    If you want to go manufacturing, go ahead and stop asking others to do it for you. Show how it’s done. Go! But stop asking others to do it, otherwise STFU.

  158. Howard Hill

    Mark A, Really?

    Just because they’re moooing and baahing before they are humanely slaughtered doesn’t mean they’re what you think they are. Monsanto are very clever and have probably genetically engineered them from slugs. Slugs are like traders, they lie and cheat. Don’t be fooled by their appearance or the sounds they make.

    I’ve go a slug in my back yard that thinks it’s a Magpie, the prick eats everything in sight. He’s just about sucked my freezer dry. Luckily he doesn’t use dunny paper or all shit would break out!

  159. Seven States Mencius

    “And the return of manufacturing to the US is happening and will continue to do so because of incredible robotics technology.”

    No thats all bullshit. Robots are not to be differentiated from other tools. They are more just a space-saving technology than anything else. The same financial parasites that rooted American manufacturing have doubled down on their looting.

  160. JC

    If you use cheap loanable funds for mortgages and bullshit rather than for manufacturing equipment you are starving producers and creating parasite overhead.

    There are no loans for equipment purchases. I didn’t know that, Seven. Recall, you once suggested we should live in pyramids? I’m fine with that as long as I get the penthouse.. right at the top. And you, you get the unlit space in the middle at ground level.

  161. egg_

    One other thing about the US. The categorization of technology in my mind is problematic. Is it really just an ordinary service or is it a form of virtual manufacturing?

    Australian and Global firms have their IP here but manufacture in China.
    From previous, China clones same for their internal market but could easily flood Global markets, if they choose to.
    Xiaomi mobile phones sh1t on the rest with German optics.
    Xiaomi (“Mi”) in ear earphones are cut from solid billet with German machinery.

  162. Mark A

    Howard Hill
    #3399243, posted on April 8, 2020 at 1:56 am

    I think I better go to bed, this convo is doing my head in.

  163. Seven States Mencius

    “There are no loans for equipment purchases.” No don’t try your Jedi-parasite bullshit on my you idiot.

  164. egg_

    Xiaomi (“Mi”) in ear earphones

    Makers of the world’s only quadruple driver (in ear) earphones; nanotechnology.

  165. JC

    Stop hallucinating, Seven. There is ample funding available to purchases machinery. No one wants to buy any for a host of reasons. Australia is not business friendly to that sort of thing.

  166. Seven States Mencius

    On ME you idiot. Look how the welfare queen has no shame. No shame. Keeps a straight face the whole time. So meanwhile billions of cheap interest loans, from subsidised institutions, go out for wealth destroying “investments” yet to buy equipment you take such a high interest rate it can only lead to more banker overhead.

  167. Seven States Mencius

    “There is ample funding available to purchases machinery.”

    Exhibit one thousand. Proving you are a liar and a parasite.

  168. C.L.

    Good to see you, Bird.

    Thanks, JC. That’s an interesting way of seeing things.
    18 percent plays 17.
    I’d still like the US further ahead in world manufacturing. I suppose if you’re looking at this in hemispheric rather than strictly national terms, Western manufacturing is collectively all-powerful vis-a-vis China. But we seem to have been sloppy in what we’ve allowed ourselves to ‘bundle’ up and move offshore and what we’ve decided to keep. Lack of discipline there and a lot of corporatist greed.

  169. egg_

    In the face of CAGW hype, Ford F-250s now come with a 7.3 Litre petrol V8* option.
    Highly efficient tow vehicles, too.

    *Of interest to ‘Rodders, of course.

  170. Arky

    I lived above a taxi garage in Bangkok for a couple of weeks in the 90’s.
    Very interesting to see how almost every house in that neighbourhood was a little manufacturing shop.
    I wonder if this model might be jiggery pokered with modern information technology into something efficient.
    Imagine you could by pass all the shit employment laws and imposts on companies if you had a way to farm out component manufactue to tens of thousands of little blokes all with a computer controlled lathe or welding and cutting gear or #D printer or whatever, all tracked by a modern inventory system.
    Kind of an Uber of manufacturing.
    Stick a stupid solar panel above each shed to game the renewables scam, and Bobs your fucking uncle.

  171. Seven States Mencius

    Think of what JC spends money on. All of it useless. Essentially just derivative contracts. Think of where our banks lend to. The repurchase of already existing houses and land. This is wealth destruction and overhead on a grand scale.

  172. JC

    Seven

    If you want to know something, I’d possibly be the only person here with a direct interest in manufacturing and we purchases machines too. 🙂 True. I inherited part of a small enterprise and rather than sell I decided to keep it going. It’s fun.

    You should try it sometime instead of just talking about how other people should do this or that. Get an idea, package it up as a business plan and see how far you can take it. Stop talking about this stuff and go do it. Go!

  173. Seven States Mencius

    Yeah exactly Arky. The potential is there. We just have to get this subsided banker overhead off our backs. And the bullshit public sector high-paid salary welfare types too.

  174. Howard Hill

    I think I better go to bed, this convo is doing my head in.

    Three crickets in the morning will fix that Mark. But stay off the cockroaches, they’ll turn you into a reconstituted slug trader and you’ll start moooing and baahing.

  175. JC

    And seven… you’re the only person I allow to abuse me without a response because you know and have always known I have the best of intentions for you. But stop being an idiot.

  176. Seven States Mencius

    “If you want to know something, I’d possibly be the only person here with a direct interest in manufacturing and we purchases machines too. 🙂 True. I inherited part of a small enterprise and rather than sell I decided to keep it going. It’s fun.”

    Well thats good stuff. But the rest of what you do is overhead. If the overhead is taken care of then many people can be in that fortunate small business position.

  177. egg_

    Very interesting to see how almost every house in that neighbourhood was a little manufacturing shop.

    Japan does the same to this day, where e.g. rural housewives can work from home manufacturing electronic components.

  178. Arky

    Japan does the same to this day, where e.g. rural housewives can work from home manufacturing electronic components.

    ..
    It’s never really taken off in the West.
    I wonder how much this has to do with strict zoning laws?

  179. Seven States Mencius

    So you yourself have the benefit of the joy of small business manufacturing. Yet you come here every day to point the bone at this countries capacities in that direction.

    For starters trading deficits are financially constructed. If we allow foreigners to buy all our gear and we borrow more than we lend we find ourselves with large trading deficits. We can reverse this logic, should we choose to, and engineer trading surpluses as far as the eye can see.

  180. NoFixedAddress

    Did someone mention Roth’s child

  181. JC

    Well thats good stuff.

    yep. Look, I really don’t enjoy trading much anymore like I did in my younger days. I made decent money in this run down because a couple of great trades – one of which Liz was the inspiration. 🙂 I make far less money out of that little enterprise, but that’s where I get a lot of enjoyment these days. It’s fun finding new customers and working with a bunch of really decent hires. Although my stupid cousin is very trying at times. He inherited the other half. 🙂

  182. Nob

    Arky
    #3399256, posted on April 8, 2020 at 2:06 am
    I lived above a taxi garage in Bangkok for a couple of weeks in the 90’s.
    Very interesting to see how almost every house in that neighbourhood was a little manufacturing shop.
    I wonder if this model might be jiggery pokered with modern information technology into something efficient.
    Imagine you could by pass all the shit employment laws and imposts on companies if you had a way to farm out component manufacturer to tens of thousands of little blokes all with a computer controlled lathe or welding and cutting gear or #D printer or whatever, all tracked by a modern inventory system.

    I have a mate in Ireland who does exactly that – making small locally-specific gas fittings for the local gas board on a CNC lathe in one of his farm sheds.

  183. JC

    Yet you come here every day to point the bone at this countries capacities in that direction.

    Nonsense. What I’ve done is point out the obstacles we have to surmount and they’re big ones.

  184. Seven States Mencius

    Way to go. Bravo. The main problem that I have is you and Bern have been coming here acting like there isn’t a bank bailout or subsidy, thats ever been, that you don’t like or argue is necessary. Well that just cannot stand. Bankers and financial people have to earn a living too. And not just take all the chips from the card table.

  185. Nob

    Arky
    #3399267, posted on April 8, 2020 at 2:14 am
    Japan does the same to this day, where e.g. rural housewives can work from home manufacturing electronic components.

    ..
    It’s never really taken off in the West.
    I wonder how much this has to do with strict zoning laws?

    A lot.

    And the ingrained habit of union-dominated Australia to treat small businesses as criminal enterprises.

  186. Seven States Mencius

    Nonsense. What I’ve done is point out the obstacles we have to surmount and they’re big ones.

    Yes of course. We have huge financial sector and public sector overhead. But every day you show up as if you are trying to psyche every Australian manufacturer out. Whereas the reality is if the manufacturers had gotten the low interest finance from the RBA that the bankers have, to buy equipment, they would be super tooled up by now.

  187. JC

    Whereas the reality is if the manufacturers had gotten the low interest finance from the RBA that the bankers have, to buy equipment, they would be super tooled up by now.

    Seven, don’t confuse money market operations to tweak the money supply with credit as it’s not the same thing. Credit and money are different elements.

  188. Seven States Mencius

    “I have a mate in Ireland who does exactly that – making small locally-specific gas fittings for the local gas board on a CNC lathe in one of his farm sheds.”

    These dudes are out there if you look for them. And all we need to do is adopt policies that wind up with them growing about 2 per cent every quarter. In the context of low debts or at least low interest-bearing debts.

  189. Seven States Mencius

    “Seven, don’t confuse money market operations to tweak the money supply with credit as it’s not the same thing. Credit and money are different elements.”

    No stop your bullshit fella. The banks are overhead and they don’t deserve any low interest loans whatsoever. A central bank must end all subsidies. Charge them loan shark rates for the cash to go out in the vans. No excuse to subsidise a bank ever. No excuse for you still to be dishonest about this.

  190. JC

    In the context of low debts or at least low interest-bearing debts.

    How many times have I told you it’s not the nominal interest that figures in investment decisions.

    What’s a business plan, or an investment plan? It’s something that works backwards. You estimate revenues with a given set of inputs (costs) and interest is simply part of the overall costs if you take on debt.

  191. Nob

    These dudes are out there if you look for them. And all we need to do is adopt policies that wind up with them growing about 2 per cent every quarter

    They are there but are fewer and fewer in Australia and even he would tell you he’s not innovating or doing much more than ticking over and supplementing his (EU subsidised) farm income.

    But he lives well, it’s not peanuts.

  192. JC

    They are there but are fewer and fewer in Australia and even he would tell you he’s not innovating or doing much more than ticking over and supplementing his (EU subsidised) farm income.

    You said earlier this dude, has a farm and on there, he has a shed/factory and makes stuff.
    Nob, farmers are not even allowed to cut down a single tree in this country without approval.

  193. Seven States Mencius

    “How many times have I told you it’s not the nominal interest that figures in investment decisions.”

    Makes no difference what you say. Its bullshit from tip to stern. If interest on loans to buy producer goods is high, by the laws of exponential growth, it will all end up as banker overhead in the end. So the reality is that the cheap credit must not go to the banks, and that any sound system directs low interest loans to producer goods. Because the producer goods themselves are depreciating. Obviously a high interest loan for producer goods is inherently suspect.

  194. JC

    Makes no difference what you say. Its bullshit from tip to stern. If interest on loans to buy producer goods is high, by the laws of exponential growth, it will all end up as banker overhead in the end. So the reality is that the cheap credit must not go to the banks, and that any sound system directs low interest loans to producer goods. Because the producer goods themselves are depreciating. Obviously a high interest loan for producer goods is inherently suspect.

    Seven, that’s just mumbo jumbo.

  195. Howard Hill

    Manufacturing is dead in this country. Most of those still going are supplying the local market of items that are not practical to ship from other countries.
    Our location to the rest of the world has always been a hindrance to growing a market. That coupled with a low population base, makes it hard for many to even get going. Now add in the morons running this country in cahoots with the union movement and it’s not hard to see why we’re going no where.

    This virus is not going to change that, and all those that are calling for manufacturing to return here are deluded. It’s not going to happen, we simply don’t have the economy of scale to make it work.

  196. Seven States Mencius

    “This virus is not going to change that, and all those that are calling for manufacturing to return here are deluded.”

    We are not here to make predictions. If you are predicting doom thats one thing. I’m not talking about what we will do. Only that we can be a manufacturing superpower if we choose to stop subsidising the banks and carrying all these bullshit jobs. I wasn’t here to be a soothsayer. Sure people might not listen hard enough. They might continue as human locust swarms. But you are delusional if you think we can get out of trouble any other way but manufacturing revival. We aren’t progressing by getting in more debt, selling off all our assets or any other strategy but low-debt manufacturing expansion.

    Now whether we will decide we are going to do this or not, I’m not going to try and compete with your gift of second sight.

  197. JC

    It’s not going to happen, we simply don’t have the economy of scale to make it work.

    You pick your spots. You don’t have to be the biggest scaled up producer. You can also be small as long as your output is superior. We bought machines from an Italian machine maker. They were ~30% more expensive than Chinese made ones, but they are far more reliable and superior in every way.

  198. Seven States Mencius

    Very good JC. See people? Just give these Jedi-bankers a bit of push-back and all of a sudden they start talking productive sense. Goodnight everyone.

  199. Howard Hill

    I’ve been there. We were one of the most efficient in the world at making what we made, we developed all the automation in house. I’m not going to tell you what the product was, it’s very well known throughout the country and the world and I value my anonymity.

    Unless you have a unique product in a niche market you might survive. Soon as you start encroaching on other markets you become a target and those market players have much more power than you. In this country you just can’t break in. You can’t grow your base larger enough in the local market to start pushing other players out of the way. I won’t even go into the fact that soon as you become recognised, those fucking chunks just destroy you.

  200. Howard Hill

    They were ~30% more expensive than Chinese made ones, but they are far more reliable and superior in every way.

    JC. We treat Chines machines as kits. they are a base to start from, they’re not a finished product. Euro and US machines are over priced for the same reason our stuff is, bureaucrats sucking the life out of everything they set their eyes on.

    You can buy a Chines/Taiwanese machine and then refurbish it cheaper and better than imports from the west.

    Are you exporting, JC. Coz if you’re not, what benefit does that bring into the country? You can’t make a country grow its wealth without export.

  201. Howard Hill

    egg_. The virus is a smoke screen. Anyone with half a brain can see that.

  202. egg_

    Interesting observation in the video re low death % relative to late isolating populations – like Oz, per Tel’s comments.
    Hopefully, we get to lift our isolation soon, if the curve satisfies the powers that be.

  203. egg_

    By Professor of Medicine, of Health Research and Policy and of Biomedical Data Science, at Stanford University School of Medicine and a Professor of Statistics at Stanford University School of Humanities and Sciences.

  204. Howard Hill

    we are making decisions without reliable data

    You mean like GloBull Warming?

    All you need to do is look at the numbers around the world, _egg and including our own. This will tell you what’s going on. Why have flu cases declined?

  205. Howard Hill

    And think about all the hysteria surrounding the virus living on surfaces for days on end. Now think about all those people lined up at Centerlink, shopping at the majors and elsewhere, people filling their cars at fuel pumps, passing money around. According to all the hystericals, we should all be dead by now, or at least on a ventilator.

  206. Tel

    A central bank must end all subsidies. Charge them loan shark rates for the cash to go out in the vans. No excuse to subsidise a bank ever. No excuse for you still to be dishonest about this.

    Get with the program … banks purchase overpriced government bonds, and therefore provide a special favour offering spendthrift political parties the opportunity to buy votes and use monetary inflation as a secret tax. As a special favour in return, government shelters the banks from competition, lets them keep a slice of the inflation tax, and allows them to operate a cartel, protected from bank runs by the central bank. Just yer basic Syndicalism implemented at a business to government level.

    Like most deals, it works well because both sides get something out of it.

  207. Howard Hill

    Whoa, Tel. You’re starting to sound like Annie.

    Yes, Tom. Thanks. Mark Knight Does it for me today.

  208. Tel

    Hello Graham, nice to see.
    You are welcome, sorry I have no say in your stay.

    Means well but struggles with the concept of banking and has done for years.

    A lot of other people also can’t understand banking, but then they shrug and give up and go on to do other things. This guy can’t break through … nor can he move on … he’s in an endless loop.

  209. Tel

    Howard, how many government bonds have you purchased?

    What about your friends, any of them brag about their stash of Aussie bonds?

  210. will

    JC
    #3399280, posted on April 8, 2020 at 2:33 am

    How many times have I told you it’s not the nominal interest that figures in investment decisions.

    What’s a business plan, or an investment plan? It’s something that works backwards. You estimate revenues with a given set of inputs (costs) and interest is simply part of the overall costs if you take on debt.

    revenue less cost = cash flow;
    cash flow discounted by the (risk adjusted) nominal interest rate;
    cash flow positive or negative?
    This is the basis of the capital investment decision..fairly critical I would think

  211. bespoke

    Arky
    #3399256, posted on April 8, 2020 at 2:06 am
    I lived above a taxi garage in Bangkok for a couple of weeks in the 90’s.
    Very interesting to see how almost every house in that neighbourhood was a little manufacturing shop.
    I wonder if this model might be jiggery pokered with modern information technology into something efficient.
    Imagine you could by pass all the shit employment laws and imposts on companies if you had a way to farm out component manufactue to tens of thousands of little blokes all with a computer controlled lathe or welding and cutting gear or #D printer or whatever, all tracked by a modern inventory system.
    Kind of an Uber of manufacturing.
    Stick a stupid solar panel above each shed to game the renewables scam, and Bobs your fucking uncle.

    Yep, It’s amazing watching Indian DIY youtubers do with what little they have but thee are also westerners to.

    Australia has everything needed to create an artisanal economy probably better for innovation as all western tech is starting to look the same to me, phones etc.

  212. Howard Hill

    Tel
    #3399326, posted on April 8, 2020 at 4:59 am

    Howard, how many government bonds have you purchased?

    What about your friends, any of them brag about their stash of Aussie bonds?

    Sorry, Tel. I wasn’t having a go at you, I agree with all you’ve said. It’s just, when you start implying that .gov is in cahoots with banks, you’re treading in Annie’s world, according to most.

    I have never bought government bonds and don’t know anyone that has.
    And yes, the banks and traders have fucked the whole world. how do we stop it?

  213. bespoke

    The Cat OF is an endless loop, Tel.

  214. will

    Tel
    #3399319, posted on April 8, 2020 at 4:40 am
    A central bank must end all subsidies.

    There are no subsidies. Since deregulation in the 1980s, there is no longer even a government guarantee.

    Charge them loan shark rates for the cash to go out in the vans. No excuse to subsidise a bank ever. No excuse for you still to be dishonest about this.

    stop ranting

    Get with the program … banks purchase overpriced government bonds, and therefore provide a special favour offering spendthrift political parties the opportunity to buy votes and use monetary inflation as a secret tax.

    How are they “overpriced”? They are priced by the market, which includes non-bank and international players. If “spendthrift political parties …… buy votes” then the voters are happy to sell.

    As a special favour in return, government shelters the banks from competition, lets them keep a slice of the inflation tax, and allows them to operate a cartel, protected from bank runs by the central bank. Just yer basic Syndicalism implemented at a business to government level.

    Do you know what a cartel is? Do you know how many banks there are in Australia (i.e. institutions with a banking license)? about 30, but you can look it up on the APRA website.

    The wealth and prosperity of this country depends on having a strong banking sector, and high confidence in their financial stability. If the government makes them special (and I am not sure they make them as special as you seem to think), it’s because they are.

  215. will

    Howard Hill
    #3399333, posted on April 8, 2020 at 5:16 am
    Tel
    #3399326, posted on April 8, 2020 at 4:59 am
    What about your friends, any of them brag about their stash of Aussie bonds?
    I have never bought government bonds and don’t know anyone that has.

    Back in the late 1970s the Australian Government issued bearer bonds, which were quite popular with some I worked with at the time. However government paper is not really sold retail, but is mostly purchased by institutions in big licks, which is how they are sold. If you have a super fund I am sure it would include some.

    And yes, the banks and traders have fucked the whole world. how do we stop it?

    you two loons should get on well, but please stay away from the levers of government

  216. Rockdoctor

    Nelson Kidd-Players
    #3399198, posted on April 8, 2020 at 12:59 am

    Dolittle, if Qàntas have canceled on you, perhaps its worth pushing for a refund.

    Agree with this one. Have had quite a few Qantaslink flights cancelled on me and the ones I didn’t reschedule, I have had to ring through for the refund. Normally not an issue and takes about a week to get back once the wheels in their bureaucracy get going.

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