Wednesday Forum: April 8, 2020

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  1. Infidel Tiger

    China did this.

    Never forgive. Never forget.

  2. Rex Mango

    As previously the FN FAL aka The Right Arm of the Free World, has had a Thread dedicated to it, I hereby utilise my privilege, to forever dedicate this noble Thread to the Middle Finger of the Right Arm of the Free World, namely Standard NATO 7.62 x 51mm ammunition. May it never run out and keep killing commies.

  3. Megan

    Where are all the cool kids?

  4. Mother Lode

    6
    6
    6

    I feel absolutely like a beast now.

  5. Megan

    7-0! Some technicality!

  6. AC

    Top 10.

    Louise Milligan is a donkey!

  7. Megan

    Although I did hear a comment that he got off because he has rich friends in high places. Lindy abd George demonstrate the fact that lots of people are very willing to join a witch hunt. And

  8. AC

    Top 10.

    Louise Milligan is a donkey.

  9. rickw

    Now Victorian kiddies are being home schooled, the Department’s advice for schooling hours are:
    prep to yr 2, ~2hrs per day.
    Up to yr 10, ~3.5 hours per day.

    We should use this as the basis for a real education revolution.

    Much of the current format is not conducive to actual learning, many of the subjects are tackled so slowly that students never gain proficiency. Obvious examples being language, computing, craft subjects, touch typing.

    Get kids into part time jobs with all their spare time, the alternate activity being running their own home businesses.

  10. Megan

    Question for the ages…Samsung’s spell wrecker approves of abd in the text but throws in a bonus And at the end to show me how it’s done. Why, genius developers at Samsung, why?

  11. Bruce of Newcastle

    Thwack!

    Donald Trump Announces Hold on World Health Organization Funding

    Mr Tedious is now learning that capitalists have more money than communists.

  12. cuckoo

    The media continue to beclown themselves with COVID coverage. Nein news was shrieking about the YOUNGEST victim to date in Victoria, but their intro showed images of a senior-looking white-bearded man. I expected the victim would turn out to be this guy’s grandchild or something, but no, it was him. Aged 54, a grandfather, white-bearded, overweight and with “existing health condition”, but yeah, the YOUNGEST victim.

  13. feelthebern

    Any civil suites been brought against Pell today?

  14. rickw is on board with the JT Gatto education revolution – dump schools, embrace real world skills!

  15. Megan

    The Victoria Education boffins just demonstrated the uselessness of both their schools and teachers. Great work, dummies.

  16. Nick

    But if kids are home schooled, how will they learn about gender issues, indigenous oppression, climate change, wicked whitey?

  17. Diogenes

    many of the subjects are tackled so slowly that students never gain proficiency.

    You forget that at home you are dealing with only one child at a time, In a class of 30, with a period length of 1 hour, how much time on average does the teacher get to spend with each child ?

    My experience with year 12 is that I can easily get through the syllabus in half the planned time with 4 bright motivated kids. I am rushing to finish with 12 kids of vastly different abilities, one of whom has the reading age of a 12 year old, and another is only kept the subject because he preferred software development to ancient history (which he dropped in year 11).

  18. rickw

    Thwack!

    Donald Trump Announces Hold on World Health Organization Funding

    Mr Tedious is now learning that capitalists have more money than communists.

    May the funding of those who are useless or who are dedicated to infringing our freedom and liberty now collapse!

    I hope Turdross finds employment in a field better suited to his skill set, tending goats looks most appropriate at this stage.

  19. 8th Dan

    At least Daniel Andrews got it right:

    “I make no comment about today’s High Court. But I have a message for every single victim and survivor of child sex abuse,” he said.

    “I see you. I hear you. I believe you.”

  20. Bruce of Newcastle

    James Woods breaks Twitter:

    Someone asks quick-witted James Woods what Trump could do that would make him say ‘that was wrong?’ (7 Apr, via Lucianne)

    He’s like a D-9 vs a bunch of mice.

  21. Tim Neilson

    Any civil suites been brought against Pell today?

    Fair question.

    But I think that civil suits may be quite hard for the “victims”.

    Yes a civil claim needs only evidence on a “balance of probabilities”, not “beyond reasonable doubt”.

    But civil cases normally don’t go before a jury. And I think that after the High Court’s bottom spanking of Ferguson and Maxwell even a CFMEUistan judge will be careful to address the evidence properly.

  22. feelthebern

    Has the governments modelling been released yet?
    If it has been, can a Cat help a brother out?

    I was told last night that it has been released to selected journo’s last night.
    If the case, you can only imagine why.

  23. feelthebern

    Fair question.

    I’m being a smart arse Tim.
    Since the ABC ran the line yesterday, I’ve been posting my smart arsery non-stop.

  24. Infidel Tiger

    The modelling is based on Iranian and China numbers.

    It’s completely legit.

  25. Confused Old Misfit

    Anything going to happen today?
    Are we to be shackled to our bedsteads?
    Is Perth airport closed to domestic traffic?
    Is it time to re-establish the Brisbane line?
    So many questions; so little time.
    I think I’ll go play airline pilot with a digital 737.

  26. Bruce of Newcastle

    At least Daniel Andrews got it right

    Dan, and Dan, might wish to read 2 Thess 2:11.

  27. Anne

    Yesterday NZ Rothschild tranny was yukking it up about the Easter Bunny & the Tooth Fair being essential workers, now Joe Biden tweets this:

    What do Fig Newtons and peanut butter and jelly sandwiches have in common? Listen to this preview of this week’s podcast to find out…

    They’re losing control of themselves.

  28. Ellie

    Passover. Nice new banner, Sinclair.

  29. AC

    If Trump withholds funding from the WHO could ScoMo do the same for the ABC?

  30. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Tintarella di Luna at 9:42 am in the first stanza:

    “Hadley is a bellicose blowhard who has not the wit or the will to think. It’d be a terrible travesty if a mischievous person were to cry rope in relation to those who so blithely dismiss the presumption of innocence and evidence as key in any prosecution.”

    Hadley is all hat and no cattle – he deserves to be fronted by a big bloke and flattened in public. The embarrassment and humiliation would see him off air in an instant.

    A little research reveals he has been sued numerous times and has had to settle many matters which highlight his sub human manner (he is given to uncontrolled screaming rage), including being required to make public apologies – one of which he embellished by bunging on crocodile tears of shame for the radio station workers. All of that is the behaviour of a gutless wonder.

  31. Ellie

    Anne – why do you keep mentioning the Rothschilds?

  32. feelthebern

    Paul Bongiorno has been pretty quiet on twitter since the Pell 7-0 ruling.

  33. feelthebern

    ScoMo said they would release their modelling.
    Where is it?

  34. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Bruce of Newcastle at 10:34 am from back over the page:

    ” there is no point storming in with a “Kick me” sign on your back.

    Hehe, Mick, I was being sardonic. Which is pretty clear from the second sentence. 😀 “

    Fair enough Bruce – my apologies. Perhaps I was blinded by Hadley-like rage! 😉

  35. nfw

    I see the latest waste on taxpayer funds is the commercials with a female doctor and another with a female nurse (?) telling us not to travel as we Australians traditionally do at Easter to see family and friends. Where were the commercials telling the Chinese not to travel to China at Chinese New Year back in January or if they did, not to return to Australia? The Wuhan Virus flu was will known at that time and the racist fascist Chinese government had already started quarantine and body disposal protocols. Where were the commercials telling the Chinese nationals not to travel around stripping chemist shop and grocery store shelves to send the goods back to China at a profit and causing panic buying and shortages for Australians? Nowhere to be seen were they? None because that would have been wacist!

    But now we have Plod or the SS* Services fining people for enjoying their own company in a park on a sunny day or driving in a car further than plod believes one should. No, we can’t move but it was okay for travel to and from China when it really wasn’t. Of course plod goes shopping after his/her shift so that’s okay.

    SS* = State Security of course

  36. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    But if kids are home schooled, how will they learn about gender issues, indigenous oppression, climate change, wicked whitey?

    First week of homeschooling, here, has gone very well indeed. Two students suspended for appalling behaviour, and the teacher sacked for drinking in the workplace.

  37. Farmer Gez

    8th Dan
    #3399734, posted on April 8, 2020 at 10:49 am
    At least Daniel Andrews got it right:

    “I make no comment about today’s High Court. But I have a message for every single victim and survivor of child sex abuse,” he said.

    “I see you. I hear you. I believe you.”

    You’re just shit stirring, as boring as it is predictable. I doubt you don’t support the presumption of innocence but then again maybe you have no principles.
    What’s your job?
    Employed by the State?

  38. rickw

    You forget that at home you are dealing with only one child at a time, In a class of 30, with a period length of 1 hour, how much time on average does the teacher get to spend with each child ?

    Let me clarify with an example:

    Touch typing: Standard teaching method when I was in school was one hour a week for two semesters. Virtually no one learned to touch type.

    How I learned: After failing semester 1 I was given a a kick up the backside and did 1 hours study per day for two weeks. In that time correctly learned the home keys and could type much faster than virtually everyone could at the end of the full course. Only two girls and I were in the 30-35 wpm range at the end, most were in the 10-20 range with a lot of looking at the keys.

    Bottom line was that the teaching approach was driven by the schooling schedule rather than what was required to gain the skill.

  39. feelthebern

    and the teacher sacked for drinking in the workplace.

    Well done that man.

  40. Zatara

    Trump is appearing live on the Hannity program in the next few minutes.

    Will be interesting to see if Hannity lets him speak without interruption.

  41. Infidel Tiger

    Tucker Carlson now the number 1 show on Fox.

    Incredible. He’s the best in the business by streets.

  42. caveman

    When will the new thread curve flatten?

  43. Bruce of Newcastle

    Anything going to happen today?
    Are we to be shackled to our bedsteads?

    Handcuffed, not shackled.

    Colorado man handcuffed for playing T-ball with daughter in empty park (7 Apr)

    He was playing T-ball in an empty park. Matt Mooney said a group of officers approached him, asked for his identification and said he was violating state social distancing guidelines.

    If Dan needs more plod he only has to contact Denver.

  44. Top Ender

    …commercials with a female doctor and another with a female nurse telling us not to travel as we Australians traditionally do at Easter to see family and friends

    It will be a very interesting four day break.

    All across Oz, people will be trapped in their houses, doing bugger all, reflecting on “how did it come to this”…

  45. Mother Lode

    72% of Corona virus deaths in Chicago are African Americans.
    Are they African or American? Who’s differentiating on racial or ethnic grounds?
    Who’s conflating correlation and extrapolation.?

    Is this going to be one of those things where, if a person dies who has the virus, they are counting it as death from the virus?

    The mayor of Chicago will be able to go on TV and say “I have good news and bad news. The bad news is that the number of people killed by the virus has shot up. The good news is that latest statistics show no one has died of gunshot wounds or stabbings in the last week!”

  46. Fisky

    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/politics/article-toronto-recalls-faulty-face-masks-as-canada-works-to-secure-more/?cmpid=rss&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&__twitter_impression=true

    Toronto is recalling more than 60,000 faulty surgical masks, made in China and provided to staff at long-term care facilities, and investigating whether caregivers were exposed to COVID-19 while wearing the equipment.

    The masks were distributed to the facilities more than a week ago and are being recalled after reports of ripping and tearing, the city announced Tuesday. The incident highlights one of the concerns Ottawa is trying to guard against as governments at all levels scramble to secure vital protective equipment during the COVID-19 pandemic.

  47. rickw

    Has the governments modelling been released yet?
    If it has been, can a Cat help a brother out?

    Canberra is still waiting on Beijing to email it through, be patient!!

  48. Infidel Tiger

    Brit Hume
    @brithume
    Well, Dr. Birx just said it. Anyone in U.S. who dies with Covid 19, regardless of what else may be wrong, is now being recorded as a Covid 19 death.
    7:24 AM · Apr 8, 2020·

    Stupid

  49. Bruce of Newcastle

    It will be a very interesting four day break.
    All across Oz, people will be trapped in their houses, doing bugger all

    While on short, compliant, treadly rides yesterday and this morning I’ve seen two caravans and one RV being prepped for obvious travel. How many bogans can NSW Plod arrest in four days?

  50. Ellie

    Anne – there are millions in my family trust. We are a successful people. Ain’t nothing wrong with that.

  51. That’s what I suspected IT.

    Like the erroneous ‘smoking deaths’ data that gets shoved in our faces.

  52. feelthebern

    I predict this.
    A few journos release pieces on how amazingly detailed & sophisticated the modelling was & the government should be applauded for listening to the science.
    They will also trumpet that we should beware of anyone calling the modelling wrong.
    Maybe putting them in the same dreaded category of “climate change deniers”.
    Then once that narrative has been spread non-stop, the modelling is released.
    Then every person who has the skills rip the modelling apart.
    Then the original parties who built the narrative will be all “oh, you’re one of those science deniers aren’t you”.

  53. Sinclair Davidson

    Passover. Nice new banner, Sinclair.

    Strictly only starts tonight. But Passover and Easter coincide exactly this year, so I’m going to alternate the banners.

  54. rickw

    It will be a very interesting four day break.

    All across Oz, people will be trapped in their houses, doing bugger all, reflecting on “how did it come to this”…

    Australia’s Easter Uprising primed and ready to go!

  55. bundyrum

    Anne – why do you keep mentioning the Rothschilds?

    Ellie- why do keep mentioning unfastened bras & free rolling tits?

  56. From the OT:

    An overlooked anniversary

    In all of American history, it’s hard to think of a more loathsome, evil person than Anna Louise Strong.

    It must run in the family.

    She is related to Chief Holocauster Maurice Strong, the vile socialist scum who infiltrated the U.N and vomited the Great Global Warming Scam onto the world.

    As a typical, putrid, sociopathic, narcissistic Socialist he was only interested in one thing; the death of hundreds of millions of people, something he wanted to achieve by denying the developing world cheap electricity and crippling the developed world.

    As a typical Socialist he was also immensely wealthy and corrupt and when he was caught out he fled to…[drum roll please]…CHINA!

    His understudy and Deputy-Chief Holocauster George Soros has already been linked to funding the Wuhan bio lab. Strong died about 5 years ago (good riddance) but wouldn’t be in the least bit surprised if he was also funding the lab.

  57. Ellie

    Anne – my German-J**wish grandparents were born in Frankfurt too. Small world.

  58. feelthebern

    The modelling regarding coronavirus will be the perfect live example of Eric Weinstein’s DISC theory.
    “Distributed Idea Suppression Complex”.

  59. Anne

    Trump takes a swipe at the W.H.O.

    “W.H.O. really blew it..funded largely by..US, yet very China centric..Fortunately I rejected their advice on keeping our borders open to China early on.Why did they give us such a faulty recommendation?”

    He also cleverly connected DeepState Fauci with W.H.O. so when people work out one is corrupt they’re partnered.

    Watch the big, corrupt and evil N.G.Os fall, one by one.

  60. johanna

    On Our Selection, Chapter 3:

    On Our Selection
    Chapter III
    Before We Got the Deeds
    Steele Rudd

    OUR SELECTION adjoined a sheep-run on the Darling Downs, and boasted of few and scant improvements, though things had gradually got a little better than when we started. A verandahless four-roomed slab-hut now standing out from a forest of box-trees, a stock-yard, and six acres under barley were the only evidence of settlement. A few horses—not ours—sometimes grazed about; and occasionally a mob of cattle—also not ours—cows with young calves, steers, and an old bull or two, would stroll around, chew the best legs of any trousers that might be hanging on the log reserved as a clothes-line, then leave in the night and be seen no more for months—some of them never.

    And yet we were always out of meat!

    Dad was up the country earning a few pounds—the corn drove him up when it did n’t bring what he expected. All we got out of it was a bag of flour—I do n’t know what the storekeeper got. Before he left we put in the barley. Somehow, Dad did n’t believe in sowing any more crops, he seemed to lose heart; but Mother talked it over with him, and when reminded that he would soon be entitled to the deeds he brightened up again and worked. How he worked!

    We had no plough, so old Anderson turned over the six acres for us, and Dad gave him a pound an acre—at least he was to send him the first six pounds got up country. Dad sowed the seed; then he, Dan and Dave yoked themselves to a large dry bramble each and harrowed it in. From the way they sweated it must have been hard work. Sometimes they would sit down in the middle of the paddock and “spell” but Dad would say something about getting the deeds and they’d start again.

    A cockatoo-fence was round the barley; and wire-posts, a long distance apart, round the grass-paddock. We were to get the wire to put in when Dad sent the money; and apply for the deeds when he came back. Things would be different then, according to Dad, and the farm would be worked properly. We would break up fifty acres, build a barn, buy a reaper, ploughs, cornsheller, get cows and good horses, and start two or three ploughs. Meanwhile, if we (Dan, Dave and I) minded the barley he was sure there’d be something got out of it.

    Dad had been away about six weeks. Travellers were passing by every day, and there was n’t one that did n’t want a little of something or other. Mother used to ask them if they had met Dad? None ever did until an old grey man came along and said he knew Dad well—he had camped with him one night and shared a damper. Mother was very pleased and brought him in. We had a kangaroo-rat (stewed) for dinner that day. The girls did n’t want to lay it on the table at first, but Mother said he would n’t know what it was. The traveller was very hungry and liked it, and when passing his plate the second time for more, said it was n’t often he got any poultry.

    He tramped on again, and the girls were very glad he did n’t know it was a rat. But Dave was n’t so sure that he did n’t know a rat from a rooster, and reckoned he had n’t met Dad at all.

    The seventh week Dad came back. He arrived at night, and the lot of us had to get up to find the hammer to knock the peg out of the door and let him in. He brought home three pounds—not enough to get the wire with, but he also brought a horse and saddle. He did n’t say if he bought them. It was a bay mare, a grand animal for a journey—so Dad said—and only wanted condition. Emelina, he called her. No mistake, she was a quiet mare! We put her where there was good feed, but she was n’t one that fattened on grass. Birds took kindly to her—crows mostly—and she could n’t go anywhere but a flock of them accompanied her. Even when Dad used to ride her (Dan or Dave never rode her) they used to follow, and would fly on ahead to wait in a tree and “caw” when he was passing beneath.

    Now read on

  61. stackja

    Top Ender
    #3399800, posted on April 8, 2020 at 11:10 am
    All across Oz, people will be trapped in their houses, doing bugger all, reflecting on “how did it come to this”…

    This was originally about a man who was killed by jealous people and rose from death.

  62. Diogenes

    While on short, compliant, treadly rides yesterday and this morning I’ve seen two caravans and one RV being prepped for obvious travel. How many bogans can NSW Plod arrest in four days?

    Dateline: yesterday A few doors up, caravan observed leaving at 6am. 11am caravan observed returning , neighbour very sweary hear bits of rant lots of effing cops! effing stupid! nazi cnuts! who am I effing hurting?

  63. Ellie

    Ellie- why do keep mentioning unfastened bras & free rolling tits?

    I think that is our darling Lizzie not me.

  64. Atoms for Peace

    New Gotham call out for the plod in Victoria is a big ” L” in the sky.

  65. Ellie

    Strictly only starts tonight. But Passover and Easter coincide exactly this year, so I’m going to alternate the banners.

    Is that the blood of Christ on the banner?

  66. Sinclair Davidson

    Roast lamb on the banner.

  67. Mother Lode

    It is going to take some careful work when the kids go back to school.

    For at least a weak they will be correcting the teacher.

    “No, Miss. ‘Z’ is the last letter of the alphabet.”

    “Um..Xr, the square of 5 is not 55.”

    “My parent’s told me that WW2 was between the Western allies and the Germans, not white privileged men and indigenous populations, wymmyns and alternative gender constructs. They showed my books (some before 2005) and lots of stuff on the internet.”

  68. calli

    That’s a very profound question, Ellie.

  69. Infidel Tiger

    Dogz BolloxFlag of EnglandRight Wing News
    @Bollox_dogz
    #Russia is expelling some 1.5 million #Chinese back to #China. No matter you are infected with #COVID19 or not, that is a straight deportation. The news is forbidden in Flag of China #China and the border cities in Flag of China #China are in panic needing to receive them back home.

    Great stuff. We should be following suit.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Bollox_dogz/status/1247650008633049088

  70. Atoms for Peace

    Great rake news today. The WHO predicted all sorts of calamaties moving forwards.

  71. feelthebern

    Roast lamb on the banner.

    Is that a kiwi thing?

  72. Ellie

    You are bad boy, Sinclair.

  73. Old School Conservative

    Middle Finger of the Right Arm of the Free World, namely Standard NATO 7.62 x 51mm ammunition. May it never run out and keep killing commies.

    Rex, anyone – this uneducated civilian would like to know which came first.
    The ammo or the weapon?
    Do weapons get designed to fire certain ammunition, or is ammunition designed to be used by the weaponry?

  74. Sinclair Davidson

    You are bad boy, Sinclair.

    🙂

  75. rickw

    Trying to skip out at lunchtime to check out this baby:

    http://www.lockwoodcompany.com.au/LockwoodAuction%20Photos%20S3088/pages/DSC_0055.htm

    Textron built rather than Adcock and Shipley licence built which is a bit unusual for OZ.

  76. EvilElvis

    Now Victorian kiddies are being home schooled, the Department’s advice for schooling hours are:
    prep to yr 2, ~2hrs per day.
    Up to yr 10, ~3.5 hours per day.

    Thank god it’s only those limited hours though. What with kids working from kitchen tables and chairs and all!

    The horror!

  77. J has been used by the left. Now they don’t care.

    Next up on the reality TV shitshow that is Australia:

    False accusations against ADF soldiers.

  78. Infidel Tiger

    In the past 24 hours, Victoria Police conducted 835 spot checks at homes, businesses and non-essential services across the state as part of Operation Sentinel, issuing 114 fines.

    Seven people were issued infringements after gathering at a house for a dinner party, as were a group of three friends who were playing a video game in a lounge room despite not residing together. Another four people were fined after being found walking the streets seeking drugs.

    Police have also fined people for gathering in parks.

    4 weeks ago the governments were saying we were racists for not frequenting Chinese restaurants. Now this.

    P.s Sinclair can you implement a system that closes old Open Forums. Very annoying and I may withdraw my custom.

  79. Old School Conservative

    Grandson working permanent part-time for an Apple retail store is still on full pay for staying at home.
    Just a couple of Zoom meetings a week. All employees around the world are on the same wicket, as I understand it.
    Some talk of helping customers by phone but nothing concrete yet.

    Apple must have deep pockets.

  80. rickw

    Rex, anyone – this uneducated civilian would like to know which came first.
    The ammo or the weapon?
    Do weapons get designed to fire certain ammunition, or is ammunition designed to be used by the weaponry?

    There are a huge number of historical variations to this. Sometimes a new weapon is designed to accomodate an existing cartridge, sometimes a new cartridge is designed independently to fit into existing weapons with minor modifications. Sometimes a new weapon and cartridge are developed hand in hand.

    Regardless it can be a very interactive and time consuming process. Reliability expectations for firearms exceed that of other machinery by orders of magnitude.

  81. Eyrie

    P.s Sinclair can you implement a system that closes old Open Forums. Very annoying and I may withdraw my custom.

    +1 , IT

  82. Old School Conservative

    Thanks Rickw.

  83. Nelson Kidd-Players

    The Cat is set to close threads after seven days; presumably the Doomlord can do it manually.

    An alternative is for new threads to start at 4:00 AM and most of us can wake to a new thread with Tom’s cartoons in pride of place.

  84. Fisky

    Lindsay David
    @linzcom
    ·
    4m
    I’d argue globalization heading back to the 1990’s. US and EU (and Oz to a lesser extent) won’t be that eager to strengthen trade and diplomatic ties with China taking global trade backwards for some time. Thus China will have to be more dépendant on its domestic economy

  85. Nelson Kidd-Players

    Ellie, the Doomlord has relaxed the restrictions on YouTube clips. You may want to try again!

  86. rickw

    In the past 24 hours, Victoria Police conducted 835 spot checks at homes, businesses and non-essential services across the state as part of Operation Sentinel, issuing 114 fines.

    Seven people were issued infringements after gathering at a house for a dinner party, as were a group of three friends who were playing a video game in a lounge room despite not residing together. Another four people were fined after being found walking the streets seeking drugs.

    Police have also fined people for gathering in parks.

    Is it possible for the consent o meter to go negative?

    Does vicpol realise how much they’re hated by all and sundry?

    The cure for lawlessness is now far worse than the cause.

  87. Delta A

    Canberra is still waiting on Beijing to email it through, be patient!!

    Well played, rickw. 🙂

  88. Fisky

    How China pilfered Australia’s medical supplies

    While the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) was lying to the world about the severity of the coronavirus and punishing whistle blowers, it was also demanding nations keep borders open and pilfering the world’s medical supplies.

    MACROBUSINESS
    How China pilfered Australia’s medical supplies
    By Leith van Onselen in Australian Economyat 11:00 am on April 8, 2020 | 22 comments

    While the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) was lying to the world about the severity of the coronavirus and punishing whistle blowers, it was also demanding nations keep borders open and pilfering the world’s medical supplies.

    The above segment, aired over the weekend by 60 Minutes Australia, features a whistle blower working in Sydney at Chinese real estate developer Poly Developments and Holdings. The whistle blower explains how staff were instructed by the company to urgently find masks and medical supplies anywhere they could, including from pharmacies across Sydney.

    The whistle blower said he saw tonnes of gloves, masks, gowns, sanitiser and other vital medical supplies being packaged in his Sydney office to be sent to China:

    “Meeting rooms, lunch rooms and the boardroom, starting to be filled with different types of items getting unpackaged and repackaged and labelled,” he said.

    “It definitely rose my suspicion. The concern to me is if all these medical items leave the country, what’s left for us?”.

    “It is very unsettling that essential equipment can just leave our borders in massive commercial quantities”.

  89. twostix

    Seven people were issued infringements after gathering at a house for a dinner party, as were a group of three friends who were playing a video game in a lounge room despite not residing together

    Who is doing the dobbing here?

  90. feelthebern

    Who is doing the dobbing here?

    Odd’s on it was that Nicholas Reece beta-male.

  91. Mater

    Rex, anyone – this uneducated civilian would like to know which came first.
    The ammo or the weapon?

    OSC,
    This 16 min video will add to your understanding.

    How the U.S. got shafted out of the FN FAL

  92. Leigh Lowe

    Yes a civil claim needs only evidence on a “balance of probabilities”, not “beyond reasonable doubt”.

    But civil cases normally don’t go before a jury. And I think that after the High Court’s bottom spanking of Ferguson and Maxwell even a CFMEUistan judge will be careful to address the evidence properly.

    True Tim.
    And as for specific claims around the St Pat’s fiction, I think the HC decision renders them dead in the water, even on the “balance of probabilities” criteria.
    The though ambulance chasers representing the father of the OD’d choir boy were putting a brave face and on it, deep down they know there is new Ford Mustang or Bali holiday to be had here.

  93. Boambee John

    An alternative is for new threads to start at 4:00 AM and most of us can wake to a new thread with Tom’s cartoons in pride of place.

    Can this be pre-programmed? Otherwise a bit hard to expect the Doomlord to be up at that hour every day.

  94. twostix

    It’s extraordinary that we even feel the need to ask for the “modelling” and underlying data.

    That these people – “Health Experts” and “Medical Experts” presume to act in secret, issuing diktats that ruin nations based on figures they’ve made up and won’t show us, shows their contempt for open democracy and the people.

  95. Victoria Police conducted 835 spot checks at homes, businesses and non-essential services across the state …

    With no cars on the road breaking the speed limit by 1.5kph, the money has to come from somewhere.

  96. Infidel Tiger

    Boris Johnson climbing off the mat and headed for the top turnbuckle.

    Great news.

  97. Cardimona

    Thanks for the kind words on the 800 words at the end of the OOT, Cats.
    I’ll give it a few days to see if it gets a run and then I’ll send it to the three dozen polliemuppets mentioned therein.

    I’ve already had BobKat’s team print it out for him to read – his locking down FNQ ideas would be a disaster.
    Attempts to do so “to protect indigenous communities” reek of racism and patronisation.
    It should prompt the question; “Why are residents of indigenous communities so much sicker and more vulnerable to a virus than the bulk of the population?”
    The answers would be vewwy uncomfortable, to BobKat and every other polliemoron.

    As to the troll, I used to try and make an effort to help them understand the shortcomings in their thought processes but eventually I realised that the brain circuitry just isn’t there.
    It’s like trying to run a climate model on the wiring harness from a Landrover belonging to 1ALSG at Vung Tau in 1971.

  98. Sinclair Davidson

    Sinclair can you implement a system that closes old Open Forums.

    There is no pleasing everyone. People complain when I close down old forums because I’m stifling ongoing discussion and it just proves that libertarians are closet fascists, blah, blah, blah.

  99. feelthebern

    Oh the irony.
    Posters at a libertarian blog demanding rules on forums.

  100. “Can I see your raw data please?”

    “Oh noes! That would like looking up my skirt! [or kilt]”

  101. thefrollickingmole

    Strictly only starts tonight. But Passover and Easter coincide exactly this year, so I’m going to alternate the banners.

    Return of the penis wizard?
    Penis wizard 2: Tokyo drift….

  102. Anne

    Globalist Bill Gates wants the whole world vaccinated before we’re allowed to leave our homes. Lol.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/mzmollyanna/status/1247701059595677696

    FYI, his father, Willian H. Gates founded the American Eugenics Society, which became Planned ParentMurderhood.

  103. Infidel Tiger

    Here’s my modelling.

    Our stupid and corrupt media and political class couldn’t bare for Australia not to be part of the hysteria, so went balls deep on a problem we never had nor will have, all so they could be part of the cool group and be seen to be doing something, anything.

    Great work team. The SME economy is destroyed for a generation. And that doesn’t even begin to outline what they have down to local sport and community activities. They will never recover.

  104. Ellie

    There is no pleasing everyone. People complain when I close down old forums because I’m stifling ongoing discussion and it just proves that libertarians are closet fascists, blah, blah, blah.

    Stop being a victim. It’s all done to soothe Bird.

  105. Can this be pre-programmed? Otherwise a bit hard to expect the Doomlord to be up at that hour every day.

    I believe the short answer is yes.

    Also, a 4:00 AM start for new threads would allow post-midnight stouches to remain active on the old thread instead of spilling over into the cartoons. No one would have to go back there unless they want to. Less work for Calli.

    Wins all around.

  106. Leigh Lowe

    I just visited my local Collins bookstore.
    Nary a copy of Mzzz Milligan’s tome to be found.
    I did find five copies of “Fallen” by Lucy Morris-Marr, which I moved to the Fiction section.

  107. Dr Faustus

    Has the governments modelling been released yet?
    If it has been, can a Cat help a brother out?

    Here.

    Even though the model can be criticised for being alarmist and based on Wuhan Dodgy Data epidemiology, it shows that government in Australia is in deep shit. And us, by extension.

    The political risk/cost of backing away from social distancing the economy into the ground is to deliberately cause the death of (potentially) thousands of elderly Australians.

    The political exit ramp is either a vaccine, or a silver bullet cure.
    I suspect we’re going to be where we are for a long time.

  108. Friday/Saturday midnight threads have been a thing for as long as I’ve been here, even if they no longer seem to start with a YouTube clip like they used to.

  109. Bruce of Newcastle

    I just visited my local Collins bookstore.
    Nary a copy of Mzzz Milligan’s tome to be found.

    TP shortage…

  110. Geriatric Mayfly

    Missing in action since yesterday, Ferguson’s new bestie – Denis. ‘ Ruined’ he has been from a tender age.
    Maybe he has started up a successful tour business which takes in the Ballarat hotspots. Or more likely, he needs considerable advance notice before presenting himself to the cameras.

  111. Tom

    Top 1000 as the daily open freds flash by like a frog TGV!

  112. twostix

    On balance, do we really believe that “Expert” inner-class feels a moral obligation to keep democracy operating if the choice is between it and any authoritarian model where they get to run things?

    How do know they aren’t cooking the numbers or being biased towards autocratic solutions and policies rather than democratic? Many of them are on record talking about the deficiency of democracy and the supremacy of the Chinese model.

  113. feelthebern

    Are you serious Dr Faustus?
    That’s it?
    Jeeeeeebers.

  114. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    How the U.S. got shafted out of the FN FAL

    Mater – a most informative link indeed, thank you.

  115. Infidel Tiger

    The first flight to Sydney in over two months from China’s “coronavirus capital” Wuhan, is due to land in Australia tonight.

    The cargo flight operated by China’s Suparna Airlines, will be unloaded in a special freight apron area of Sydney Airport.

    It is not clear what the Boeing 747-freighter is carrying, after yesterday completing a trip to Shanghai. Further information is being sought from the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade.

    What in fuck’s name is going on?

  116. Dr Faustus

    Are you serious Dr Faustus?
    That’s it?
    Jeeeeeebers.

    Yup.
    Sorry.

    (But be comforted, there is more modelling going on.)

  117. nfw:

    Where were the commercials telling the Chinese nationals not to travel around stripping chemist shop and grocery store shelves to send the goods back to China at a profit and causing panic buying and shortages for Australians?

    Profit was first goal for the Asian shelf stripping, however, that has morphed into a program of denying the white man PPE that could save lives – which explains the substandard and not-fit-for-purpose rubbish that is being sent from China.

  118. old bloke

    caveman
    #3399788, posted on April 8, 2020 at 11:06 am

    When will the new thread curve flatten?

    We should also consider the inflationary impact of new threads.

    Won’t someone think of the pixels?

  119. rickw

    What in fuck’s name is going on?

    Has anyone got something that flies and could mount anything from a shotgun to rockets?

    #DIYairforcedefendingaustralia

  120. JC

    Medical supplies or troop movements, artie,

  121. Anne

    Winning!

    @RT_com
    Texas gets green light to enforce ban on abortion as ‘non-essential procedure’ during Covid-19 epidemic.

  122. Infidel Tiger

    Western Australian mining magnate Andrew Forrest has revealed he sent “tens of thousands” of pieces of medical PPE to China when the country was in the grip of its coronavirus crisis in January and February.

    Dr Forrest defended the move on 6PR’s Breakfast program on Wednesday morning and said if he hadn’t helped back then his Minderoo Foundation would not have been able to source the tens of millions of pieces of PPE from Chinese medical suppliers coming into Australia now.

    The truth is that Forrest is scum.

    His every action is calculated to win favour with his ChiCom paymasters.

  123. old bloke

    Here’s some more anecdotal results from treating Wuhan Virus with hydroxychloroquine. This doctor also recommends using a zinc supplement alongside the hydroxychloroquine.

    LOS ANGELES — A Los Angeles doctor said he is seeing significant success in prescribing the malaria drug hydroxychloroquine in combination with zinc to treat patients with severe symptoms of COVID-19.

  124. feelthebern

    The public service is concerned there isn’t enough cases, so is flying in a plane load of bats.

  125. feelthebern

    The truth is that Forrest is scum.

    Wrong.
    He’s the greatest living Australian.

  126. The political exit ramp is either a vaccine, or a silver bullet cure.

    You forget one important external issue.

    A mix of malevolence and stupidity on the part of the PRC will be established as the cause of the pandemic.
    This presents a problem for the PRC domestically.
    Their response to this will be to attack a foreigner (which they are probably already doing).

    When the malevolent part of the PRC actions becomes well known, international conflict is inevitable.

    This conflict will be the exit point.

  127. Infidel Tiger

    Forrest is the worst of Australia.

  128. The chickens are coming home to roost –

  129. vlad

    Lucie Morris-Marr is an airhead. Bolta said he was glad she wasn’t at the Herald Sun any more.

  130. feelthebern

    Forrest is the worst of Australia.

    He is the best of us.

  131. Infidel Tiger

    The political exit ramp is either a vaccine, or a silver bullet cure.

    There’s no exit ramp.

    The only politician on earth who wants this over is Trump and possibly BoJo.

    All the rest are having their salad days. This is what they were put on earth for.

  132. dover_beach

    Where art thou, master of rakes? He was delighting in defaming Pell while the ridiculous trial and CoA decisions remained, but he’s all of a sudden fallen silent. Come now, the rack waits.

    BTW, what is to become of those now defamatory comments in which rocks and spiders were mentioned?

  133. Peter the old fossil

    Well, that was as much fun as getting shot.

    Now for a special song for a Special Lady – again.
    The result of our long conversation last night.

  134. Ellie

    1735099 – the chickens come home to roost – ❤

  135. egg_

    Gerry Harvey’s advertising 5 years interest free terms.

    When will isolation be lifted?

  136. egg_

    Tucker Carlson makes an interesting observation that according to the national health stats COVID-19 must be having an amazing effect on curing pneumonia.

    Because the death by pneumonia numbers have gone down like a rock in the last month while COVID-19 ones have risen.

    Go figure.

    If anything comes from this, it may be treatment of pneumonia victims on ventilators – lying them on their stomachs to recover.

  137. Top Ender:

    #3399800, posted on April 8, 2020 at 11:10 am
    All across Oz, people will be trapped in their houses, doing bugger all, reflecting on “how did it come to this”…

    They will be mirroring the thoughts of millions of citizens of a certain Central European nation, who woke up to see the troop trains heading out to the Fronts on September 3rd, 1939.
    “How did it come to this?”
    Let us hope we don’t have to go through the same learning process. And if we do, hopefully we can still hold our heads high at the end.

  138. Nick

    Always classy:

    Clementine Ford Woman zombie
    @clementine_ford
    To repeat, I hope George Pell has been sufficiently weakened by the prison he deserved to spend the rest of his miserable life in and he now dies slowly and painfully from Covid19. Not sorry in the slightest.

  139. Tom

    Tucker Carlson now the number 1 show on Fox.
    Incredible. He’s the best in the business by streets.

    Today’s show was a must-watch. Starting at around the one-minute mark, Carlson analyses the hopelessly wrong modelling by the the health Nazi industrial complex which the US government was forced to rely on for its response to Kung Flu.

    No coincidence it’s the same sort of bullshit modelling that’s being wheeled out against capitalism in the climate hoax. No doubt we will soon be able to read that all the key figures in the health Nazi industrial complex are also global warmening zombies.

    PS: Google are making it harder and harder to access Youtube clips of the Carlson show.

  140. Peter the old fossil

    Gerry Harvey’s advertising 5 years interest free terms.

    He’s pulled that stunt before. People need to read the fine print. Carefully.

  141. hzhousewife

    Paul Bongiorno has been pretty quiet on twitter since the Pell 7-0 ruling.

    I’d like to think he is examining his conscience, but somehow I doubt it.

  142. feelthebern

    The data is just so important Tom.
    Unfortunately, as per IT’s post above, they are mis-classifying the real cause of death.
    This is the same as the BOM deleting historical data to fit their new narrative.

  143. Tintarella di Luna

    I’d like to think he is examining his conscience, but somehow I doubt it.

    I think he may have divested himself of that when he took off his last alb

  144. egg_

    The takeout from a lay person.

    This thing sounds more like a toxin.

    Overexposure seems to be what kills – e.g. Medics’ immune systems overloaded with the bug from various patients (probably overworked, with compromised immune systems, is my bet)
    – Exposure to an infected person for 30 minutes.

    Touching surfaces with the bug may be a way of gaining immunity; most of us may have already had it, per the post mortem confirmations.

  145. feelthebern

    Gerry Harvey is not a great Australian.
    Andrew Forrest is a great Australian.

  146. Infidel Tiger

    Gerry Harvey never sold out his country to Chicoms.

  147. feelthebern

    There is so much real data that should be collected & distributed in an open source, transparent nature.
    Let the citizen modeller loose.
    But we can’t have that now can we.
    We need the gated community of “experts” to tell us what is “right”.

  148. egg_

    @clementine_ford

    Is Clammy suffering from lack of attention in these isolated times?

  149. feelthebern

    Gerry Harvey has made a business out of enslaving Australians by lobbying for higher taxes.
    Andrew Forrest has freed Australians by being a builder of businesses & a builder of wealth.

  150. Diogenes

    This YouTube add-in is crazy!

    Re Asterix …They had some very savvy translators, In high school, in the 70s we were reading the French, German and English versions, and they were idiomatically funny in all languages

  151. EvilElvis

    What in fuck’s name is going on?

    Took the words right out of my mouth. It must have been, er, while you were, umm, nevermind.

    The powers that be continue to prove they are not serious despite locking the plebs down. Surely just for bloody optics they’d look at a flights origin and go “hmmm, Wuhan? Let’s not today.” Idiots

  152. twostix

    The first flight to Sydney in over two months from China’s “coronavirus capital” Wuhan, is due to land in Australia tonight.

    The cargo flight operated by China’s Suparna Airlines, will be unloaded in a special freight apron area of Sydney Airport.

    It is not clear what the Boeing 747-freighter is carrying, after yesterday completing a trip to Shanghai. Further information is being sought from the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade.

    What in fuck’s name is going on?

    Gotta import more China Virus. Australia is lagging dangerously far behind the internationally mandated numbers.

  153. Tintarella di Luna

    Great bastion of morality and temperance, Graeme Richardson has his say on the George Pell travesty, and as always makes it about Graeme Richardson:

    The champagne corks are popping in the Vatican. Cardinal George Pell has been found not guilty by Australia’s highest court.

    Pell’s journey through the Australian legal system has been as big a nightmare for the church as it has for the man himself. Pell is uncommonly unpopular for a prince of the church.

    The dwindling numbers of churchgoers are split between fans and many detractors. The rank and file may want reform but Pell and his ilk are determined they shall not have it.

    READ NEXT

    STREWTH
    Shorten sweet? Not this road trip
    ALICE WORKMAN
    On this occasion the full bench of the High Court has unanimously cleared Pell so he walks out a free man and his legal nightmare has come to an end.

    Legal friends have debated the case against Pell for the last couple of years.

    I have never seen a case in which so many Australian seemed to have a stake in the outcome. Such is the dislike for Pell that Tony Abbott, Pell’s long-time friend, was criticised for daring to visit him in prison.

    For too many of us the fundamental guarantee of the legal ­system, innocent until proven guilty, was suspended or cast aside for Pell.

    He was seen as arrogant and ­arrogances do not play out well in the lounge rooms. As more and more Catholics challenge their own belief and commitment, Pell was the wrong man at the wrong job at the wrong time. A majority of Australian Catholics wanted him to be guilty. He divided the church like no other. When the church required a unifying force, he provided the opposite. When so few young men show interest in filling up the seminaries, a better example of the priesthood should have been presented.

    The lines of the Catechism were drilled into me by nuns, but adherence was beyond me. I ­always fancied that on my death bed I could make a sign of the cross and all my appalling lapses would be forgiven. The trouble with that comfort is the prospect of dying during my sleep one night.

    One of the church’s little tests for kids was that if you attend Mass and communion on the first Friday of the month for nine consecutive months, you were guaranteed your place in heaven. You’ve got to love a church that will allow you to reserve your spot as a child and then rob, steal, cheat and philander your way through life without having to concern yourself with the prospect of eternal hell fire.

    Not even the certainty of ­heaven could get me to forsake my warm bed on a cold winter’s morning. My place in heaven has never looked less certain.

  154. Bruce of Newcastle

    Forrest is the worst of Australia.

    He is the best of us.

    Twiggy is like Elon.
    His pluses outweigh his minuses.
    Unless you were once a nickel investor.
    I just hope Forrest doesn’t catch the EV bug.

  155. Peter the old fossil

    Andrew Forrest is a great Australian.

    Well, he’s very good at getting people killed then nicking off to Hong Kong for a couple of months while a team of 32 top barristers and lawyers cooked up a BS arse covering story in court. AND a compliant state government bent over backwards to accommodate them. They had to. They had just passed legislation making industrial manslaughter a criminal offence.

  156. Top Ender

    The floggings will continue until morale improves!

    Dinner parties, video gamers targeted

    Video gamers and friends gathering for a dinner party are among the latest to be fined by police in Victoria for breaching the state’s strict isolation laws.

    In the past 24 hours, Victoria Police conducted 835 spot checks at homes, businesses and non-essential services across the state as part of Operation Sentinel, issuing 114 fines.

    Seven people were issued infringements after gathering at a house for a dinner party, as were a group of three friends who were playing a video game in a lounge room despite not residing together. Another four people were fined after being found walking the streets seeking drugs.

    Police have also fined people for gathering in parks.

    Under the new laws aimed at stopping the spread of coronavirus, people are only permitted to leave their homes for essential purposes, such as shopping for essentials, exercise, seeking medical care or travelling to work or education that cannot be done at home. On the spot fines for individuals are $1652 and almost $10,000 for businesses.

    Bikies are also among those fined by Victoria Police recently for breaking social distancing laws.

    Police say their Echo Task Force attended the Rebels outlaw motorcycle gang clubhouse in Sunshine West on Tuesday night.

    Seven men and two women were found socialising at the clubhouse and were issued $1,652 fines for breaching the directions of the Chief Health Officer and provided directions to move on,” a Victoria Police spokesman said.

    Oz

  157. Zatara

    What in fuck’s name is going on?

    Restocking the underground exotic animal markets?

  158. notafan

    Thanks Tints.

    Good luck with that

    Those that want ‘reform’ numbers KKK etc can go join the uniting church.

    It’s their perfect fit already.

  159. Infidel Tiger

    Forrest is trying to destroy the fishing industry both recreational and commercial in Australia as we speak.

    He is a megalomaniac, a narcissist and a nanny state loving, Chicom cock sucking, ne’er dowel

  160. feelthebern

    All people who die who are classified as a coronavirus death should be subject to an autopsy.
    Their movements for the month prior to their death should be mapped.
    Their sex, age, healthy history, ethnicity, habitation situation all need to be captured.
    Then all that information (ex their name) needs to then be made publicly available.

  161. johanna

    A majority of Australian Catholics wanted him to be guilty.

    Sez who, Richo?

    What a bizarre statement.

  162. Dr Faustus

    I wonder if Clementine Ford realises the trashy schadenfreude her obvious bitter anguish provides to the casual observer.

    A bit like bar snacks: kind of yummy in context, but revolting when you consider the fingers that have been there before.

  163. feelthebern

    So much hate ITK.
    Where does it come from?

  164. Zatara

    Very interesting evidence of what many suspected.

    How China Built a Twitter Propaganda Machine Then Let It Loose on Coronavirus

    ProPublica analyzed thousands of fake and hijacked Twitter accounts to understand how covert Chinese propaganda spreads around the globe.

  165. egg_

    Gerry Harvey looking to cash in on ScoMo cheques IMHO – but proles will have to enter his shops in the main.

    eBay offering 20% off almost across the board must be biting; and Amazon with low margins from its majority 3rd party sellers is probably biting both of them.

  166. feelthebern

    It’s past midday.
    No civil cases have been brought against Pell.
    Also, the architect of the h0m0/ped0/cover-up situation in the Catholic Church in Victoria, Ronald Mulkearns, is still dead & he still died in pain from the arse cancer.

    Not.
    Too.
    Shabby.

  167. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Ellie- why do keep mentioning unfastened bras & free rolling tits?

    I think that is our darling Lizzie not me.

    Nup. Not me. Never mentioned it here, but fyi now, like many women I unfasten my bra the minute I get home (don’t wear one in quarantine, natch) but nothing goes free rolling everywhere after that, still good uplift. Oestrogen rules. 🙂

    Just received a missive from Big Sis, don’t go out for a walk now you can (fat chance! I’m off), because she says Vaucluse/Bondi is a hotspot of Community CoV (doesn’t surprise me, as they are all on top of each other over there on the oceanside). I point out to her that Vaucluse has two parts, the oceanside part towards Bondi and beyond Dover Heights, where there are many large apartment buildings and fewer houses, and the part where we live, the harbourside, which has big houses and gardens and no big apartment buildings. You can walk down to Doyles at Watson’s Bay from our place to put in an order for the prawns and fish they are flogging there for pick up the next day and not meet a soul.

    Whooo hoooooooooooooooo

    Escape from the London Underground Route Map for Home Isolates.
    We can go for a walk. But what to wear?
    Lycra and Nike’s of course.

    Brisk pace. Tits out, tum pulled in. 🙂

  168. Tel

    Clementine Ford Woman zombie
    @clementine_ford
    To repeat, I hope George Pell has been sufficiently weakened by the prison he deserved to spend the rest of his miserable life in and he now dies slowly and painfully from Covid19. Not sorry in the slightest.

    Pascal’s Wager? No problems!

    She better hope that God doesn’t play spin the bottle.

  169. Ellie

    …but nothing goes free rolling everywhere after that, still good uplift. 

    Nice, but I just can’t see an almost 80 year-old woman as aesthetically pleasing to the eye. I keep thinking of my mum. My bad.

  170. feelthebern

    Hypothetical.
    Van Badham is lying on bed one.
    Clem Ford is lying on another bed.
    Question.
    How quickly can you:
    1) rip your own eyes from their sockets or
    2) jump out the nearest window to your death.

  171. pete m

    Feelthebern, as part of a future risk assessment on those fortescue shares just remember in WA the miners pay any native title compensation claim order which covers land they mined at any time.

    Fmg has been fighting native title claims all over the place and losing and the traditional owners are carrying a huge club called payback.

    In a few years his dividends may be mostly going to them

    Just a heads up

  172. Ellie

    You are almost 80, Lizzie. I do love your self confidence.

  173. feelthebern

    My comments on Twiggy are in relation to his greatness.
    Nothing to do with the investment quality of Fortescue.

  174. Peter the old fossil

    Sign out the front of my local bottle shop:

    Have you tried a quarantini?
    Same as an ordinary martini, but you drink it alone.

  175. Seven States Mencius

    We want to investigate how countries other than China are disturbing our sovereignty. Some loser who has failed his way to the top is trying to throw doubt on the chloroquine-zinc combination. How does Dr Death Fauci’s idiocy, manage to influence Australian medicine and get Australians killed this way? I phoned up for a prescription to add to my collection and I’m getting all this mindless pushback. My argument is its better to get the prescription now before everyone knows its the treatment, then LATER, when I may be denying someone else a scarce resource. I made the comparison with what happened to toilet paper. I pointed out that I already had my zinc sources, along with a considerable stash of other proven winners and I just needed this one prescription in reserve to round out the collection.

    We see this sort of thing often. Most people can tolerate laetrile. One lady I was advising over her breast cancer could not tolerate apricot seeds, so we had to come up with a different strategy. Which was no real problem, but the fact is that if you are okay with laetrile, the laetrile will reliably kill cancer cells. Which is not the total cure. But its a bloody good start and it can buy a lot of time.

    But one of the families in the United States put the hex on Laetrile in the 60’s. To this day Australian customs will seize your laetrile imports. This toadying to American sentiment of course has helped kill millions of Australians.

    So we need to look at our independence from the Chinese. But not only the Chinese. Absorbing medical doctrine from the US is killing Australians every day.

    If you want an alternative zinc enabler, since you won’t be able to get hold of the chloroquine, you might want to take up a green tea habit, and eat purple onions while drinking this green tea when you have a zinc source. Since we know zinc absorbed into the cell will stop the virus multiplying. But the problem is some theorists see a secondary mechanism that chloroqine might be helping in this plandemic. Its thought that the virus is causing iron to be liberated from the red blood cell and causing iron poisoning as well as robbing people of oxygen. In this theory the chloroquine is stopping this from happening.

    The corruption of Australian medicine definitely started in America and is sustained from America. It started when old man Crockefeller hired Abraham Flexner to write the Flexner report. And the hateful influence has not let up from there.

  176. Speedbox

    feelthebern
    #3400071, posted on April 8, 2020 at 12:59 pm

    Tag Heuer or Omega sports timing would have trouble timing me.

  177. THE COMMENT OF THE DAY

    Nick
    #3399727, posted on April 8, 2020 at 10:47 am
    But if kids are home schooled, how will they learn about gender issues, indigenous oppression, climate change, wicked whitey?

    BRILLIANT!

  178. Ellie

    Your pics are attractive, Lizzie. You are an attractive woman, but you are old. That’s ok though.

  179. Ellie

    You embrace it. Kudos.

  180. Seven States Mencius

    We want to investigate how countries other than China are disturbing our sovereignty. Some loser who has failed his way to the top is trying to throw doubt on the chloroquine-zinc combination. How does Dr Death Fauci’s idiocy, manage to influence Australian medicine and get Australians killed this way? I phoned up for a prescription to add to my collection and I’m getting all this mindless pushback. My argument is its better to get the prescription now before everyone knows its the treatment, then LATER, when I may be denying someone else a scarce resource. I made the comparison with what happened to toilet paper. I pointed out that I already had my zinc sources, along with a considerable stash of other proven winners and I just needed this one prescription in reserve to round out the collection.

  181. feelthebern

    All people who die who are classified as a coronavirus death should be subject to an autopsy.
    Their movements for the month prior to their death should be mapped.
    Their sex, age, healthy history, ethnicity, habitation situation all need to be captured.
    Then all that information (ex their name) needs to then be made publicly available.

    In addition to this, all names must be scrubbed, but the manifests of all planes & boats that land/dock need to be released with their origination points specified.
    We can not trust governments, the media & definitely not the public service to tell the truth.

  182. Peter the old fossil

    but I just can’t see an almost 80 year-old woman as aesthetically pleasing to the eye.

    Ellie, we discussed this before. It’s in the eyes. A woman’s eyes are the window to her soul.
    Age is irrelevant. It’s the eyes that count.

  183. Eyrie

    rickw, a pal of mine built a replica Sopwith Pup WW1 fighter. Will that do?
    Search Youtube for Rosie Sopwith Pup

  184. Ellie

    Well yes, Peter. I am 40 and considered old.

  185. Ellie

    My eyes are a screen saver.

  186. Peter the old fossil

    but you are old

    Sniff.
    It’s okay Lizzie. We can share a cab to the old people’s lockup home.

  187. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    If anything comes from this, it may be treatment of pneumonia victims on ventilators – lying them on their stomachs to recover.

    Egg, as Notafan links above, this has been a known practice for a while now with pneumonia. Medcram mentioned it in relationship to Covid 19 ARDS treatments early on in this epidemic.

    I discussed this seeming anomaly with Hairy, that of the pneumonia death drop. He saw it as suspicious; I saw it as more likely that vaccines are at work when the pneumonia bug strikes, holding it off somewhat even with the elderly, but then in romps CoV2 and plays a merry little hell with a free ride, before pneumonia knows what has happened. The elderly person dies of a mild pneumonia not yet much developed and raging CoV2 mushing up the alveoli.

    That’s how epidemics work. The new or resurgent bug rushes into an open field.
    That’s how epidemics end too. The bug kills its hosts too fast, others get immune, the bug attenuates in order to survive in a new and more limited environment.

    ‘bug’ here refers to all contenders: viruses, bacteria and parasites.

  188. Boambee John

    The chickens are coming home to roost –

    On that flight from Wuhan? I think those might be seagulls.

  189. feelthebern

    Hypothetical.
    You have to give Clem Ford & Van Badham a rim job.
    Or you have to go to jail & share a cell with a fellow nicknamed “Black-zilla”.
    Question.
    Do you take Biggie or 2pac music to jail to calm the under-sexed beast?

  190. Peter the old fossil

    I am 40 and considered old.

    Yes but after seeing your pic, #1 son guessed you were younger than him.
    He is 35.

  191. Ellie

    feelthebern – I did 100 squats today. I feel the burn.

  192. Old School Conservative

    Mater, thank you for the info.

  193. Ed Case

    From the Unz Review:
    AnonFromTN says:
    March 30, 2020 at 9:01 pm GMT • 100 Words
    @Parbes

    Ukrainian (not Ukie) joke.
    New teacher comes to class and says:
    – Let’s get acquainted. My name is Petro Petrovych. I am a Bandera follower.
    A girl gets up:
    – My name is Natalka. I am a Bandera follower.
    A boy gets up:
    – My name is Vova, I am a separatist.
    The teacher asks:
    – Why are you a separatist, Vova?
    – Well, my father is a separatist, my mother is a separatist, so is my sister, and all my friends.
    – What if your father were a drug addict, your mother a prostitute, your sister a slut, and all your friends hopeless morons?
    – Then I’d be a Bandera follower.

  194. Mark from Melbourne

    Gerry Harvey is not a great Australian.
    Andrew Forrest is a great Australian.

    Neither of these is a great Australian. They are both businessmen, in their own way and their own style. For better or worse.

    General Sir John Monash, now there’s a great Australian.

  195. Seven States Mencius

    We pretty much have the answers don’t we? Suay Sewing shop are coming out with their open source new and improved mask design. If we can all wear these out and about, and we also have the nutrient profile thats needed. Then the second to last measure is the chloroquine/zinc protocol, with the last measure as ventilation. Somewhere in there we have oxidation therapies. But for the most part if we could get the production out there, we should be able to get back to work mid-May. But if our medical system is so useless they cannot evaluate a host of studies across a half dozen countries, then you’d have to be suspicious that someone is lining us up for expensive treatments that don’t work.

  196. Peter the old fossil

    My eyes are a screen saver.

    I’ll make my own judgement on that, thank you very much.
    Soon.

  197. Old School Conservative

    Clever people running The Australian.
    Not allowing comments on Richo’s fatuous piece.
    The know he’d cop heaps of abuse, fact checking, and “advice”.

  198. Ellie

    Well – my eyes are a actually a screen saver. I didn’t make that up.

  199. Boambee John

    Tits out, tum pulled in. 🙂

    Phrasing!

  200. WDYSIA

    St Patrick’s vandalised and of course people left stuff on the gates of the monastery.

  201. Mater

    Seven people were issued infringements after gathering at a house for a dinner party, as were a group of three friends who were playing a video game in a lounge room despite not residing together.

    Are they getting search warrants, or just kicking in the doors and doing a raid when there is more than one car out front?
    Perhaps waiting in ambush out front?
    Seems a little bizarre.

  202. egg_

    “Can I see your raw data please?”

    What about the mortality rates – i.e. once folk are put on ventilators?
    Data from Wuhan and US posted on OOT.
    9/20 die once on ventilators in a US case.

    Flattening the curve is prevention.
    Ventilators are the cure, with c. 50% death rate, which can be reduced used in a prone position.

    The above method appears lost in the “pandemic” hysteria.

    Those who died on/from the Diamond Princess* died of pneumonia symptoms post disembarking in Japan?

    *There’s some raw data from Johns Hopkins, right there.

  203. Ellie

    But let’s go back to kissing George Pell’s victory. It’s all over the blog.

  204. vlad

    “May I remind everyone that publishing anything that may tend to identify my client is prohibited under Victorian law.” – Vivian Waller, 8 April 2020.

    They should charge Louise Milligan, then. She has published ample items of information that would help an assiduous researcher to identify him.

  205. Infidel Tiger

    St Patrick’s vandalised and of course people left stuff on the gates of the monastery.

    Meanwhile Victorian Police are knocking on doors arresting kids playing video games.

  206. Leigh Lowe

    Question.
    The High Court said that the Viktorianistan courts should have considered that the “opportunity witnesses” raised sufficient doubt in the “Sunday Mass” accusation , so struck out that conviction.
    However, the second accusation (allegedly on a quiet weekday) had no exculpatory witnesses or tight timelines.
    However it was also struck out. The witness was declared ‘convincing’ but there was no counter argument put forward.
    Why was that?
    The only conclusion one can draw is, despite all the chatter about J being a ‘convincing’ witness, the Magnificent Seven clearly believe J is a liar.

  207. Ellie

    Kissing the ring of a man while on bended knee. Only on Oxford street, I thought.

  208. Peter the old fossil

    Well – my eyes are a actually a screen saver. I didn’t make that up.

    As I said, we shall see.
    Do you remember what I said was a woman’s second-most important feature?
    I’ll find out about that, too. I’m an inquisitive type.

  209. Infidel Tiger

    Ellie is your psychiatrist in quarantine?

  210. egg_

    Not new
    2014 paper on the prone position in pneumonia treatment

    Not common practice, however, I believe.

    In Wuhan they took a number of measurements on ventilator patients in various positions.

    /Google “expert”

  211. Zatara

    St Patrick’s vandalised and of course people left stuff on the gates of the monastery.

    Because nobody could have possibly seen that coming right vicpol?

  212. liliana

    A rather amusing and pertinent comment in the daily mail.

    After reading about some of the circumstances in which fines are being issued there appears to be some evidence of a contest taking place, probably concluding after Easter, to determine which state has the Police Force comprising of the most stupid. So far it’s a head to Victoria with NSW second and Queensland a distant 3rd. Although Queensland is always a dark horse personal experience teaches me that NSW Police are no easy beats in the stupidity stakes and I am confident of a strong finish. The other states as always are irrelevant….especially Western Australia

  213. Seven States Mencius

    Note the potential for 5G to be a virus force multiplier. Wuhan was tricked out with 5G. New York is rife with 5G testing. Those cruise ships were boasting their fantastic new internet capacity. All this 5G coming online, at least for testing, in the second half, and particularly the last quarter of last year. Even Ecuador, where its always summer. Other places so weather-blessed seem to have only mild infection from travellers. Whereas Ecuador where 5G testing is going on, is having people dump bodies out in the street.

  214. Ellie

    I am praying for victims of sexual abuse.

  215. Leigh Lowe

    “May I remind everyone that publishing anything that may tend to identify my client is prohibited under Victorian law.” – Vivian Waller, 8 April 2020.

    That cat is already peeping out of the bag.
    Victorian law prohibited any mention that J had past psych issues.
    Walker raised this in the HC appeal, and the HC issued no suppression orders.
    Chris Merritt then reported it in the Oz yesterday. Will the Vikko Supreme Court embarrass themselves further by charging Merritt with contempt for publishing un-suppressed matters from a higher court?

  216. egg_

    the pneumonia death drop.

    Whilst Geeks are discussing pandemic modelling?

    CAGW all over again, where Geeks were late to the party.

  217. Leigh Lowe

    “May I remind everyone that publishing anything that may tend to identify my client is prohibited under Victorian law.” – Vivian Waller, 8 April 2020.

    They are shitting themselves that this guy’s history ends up in the public domain.
    Why is that?

  218. Peter the old fossil

    Something like that, IT. It’s a specialist service.
    Costs heaps – just not in money.

  219. egg_

    where 5G testing is going on

    Even Medics seem to be discussing this online – NOT death rays but Chunk herds roaming around with the technology rollout.

  220. WDYSIA

    Leigh, Meritt in today’s Australian openly said that the complainant J. has a history of psychological problems requiring treatment and that this was kept from the jury and that Pell’s defence team was also not allowed access to documents to assess the nature of his mental illness.

  221. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    General Sir John Monash, now there’s a great Australian.

    Any man who installs his mistress in a hotel in London, while he commands the Australian forces in France, has my undying respect.

  222. Pedro the Loafer

    I am convinced that Fortescue Mining Group (Twiggy’s dirt moving enterprise) has a deep cover mole in his office.
    It seems that every time an FMG explorer turns up a viable mineral sample somewhere the site is miraculously declared a sacred site within hours.

  223. Old School Conservative

    “Ray Hadley is a coward”.
    Andrew Bolt column, Herald Sun.
    Provides several examples.

    Andrew is back in the ring.

  224. Ed Case

    Victorian law prohibited any mention that J had past psych issues.

    It was psychological treatment yesterday. That means talk therapy.
    ”Psych” is usually taken to be shorthand for Psychiatric, meaning shock treatment, major tranquilisers etc.
    So which is it?

  225. WDYSIA

    A question for the legals. Given that Pell is innocent why can’t we identify the complainant. The complaint has only made an allegation against Pell.

  226. Peter the old fossil

    Any man who installs his mistress in a hotel in London, while he commands the Australian forces in France, has my undying respect.

    The man had true class.

  227. Rex Mango

    OSC, re ammunition, what is fascinating about 7.62x51mm is that it’s very similar in dimension to .303 (7.7x56mm). The USA through WW2 & Korea used 30.06 (7.62x63mm), which they swore by. While a more powerful round, it wasn’t suited to automatic weapons being too long & not all the powder was burned by the time the bullet had left the barrel. The Germs used 7.92mm which is bigger still. The British meanwhile had been using .303 (7.7x56mm) since the 1880’s. When NATO adopted 7.62×51 in 1954 and the USA in 1957, it was basically a concession that the British had the best size round all along.

  228. WDYSIA

    That prohibition of mentioning past psych issues, was that something that Andrews introduced in that 2015 raft of changes?

    I’m not one for conspiracy theories but something else has been bugging me. Pell has had all sorts of allegations thrown at him and in the preliminaries to this sorry saga, a swathe of allegations were made and all thrown out by Wallington (?) except for the cathedral case and the swimming pool case. Weren’t these the two cases in Milligan’s book and wasn’t it Wallington who then appeared on the ABC – I forget whether with Milligan or not? To me it is also interesting that they dropped the swimming pool case when the cathedral case was advancing. So much for justice for the victims.

    This makes me suspect that there was a long-term legal strategy to get one criminal case to stick after which any number of civil court actions could proceed to bankrupt the Catholic Church in Australia. And I also suspect that these two losers at the centre of the cathedral and swimming pool trials were just being cynically used by others. Am I now getting into conspiracy theories?

  229. Rex Mango

    Leigh L, biggest giveaway with the Kid, is before complaining about Pell, he made complaints about another cleric. What chance of two independant people touching you up?

  230. Mark from Melbourne

    Any man who installs his mistress in a hotel in London, while he commands the Australian forces in France, has my undying respect.

    … and that was the least of his achievements.

    Hell, I could make an argument that his entire service was not even close to the pinnacle of his achievements.

  231. Nick

    “May I remind everyone that publishing anything that may tend to identify my client is prohibited under Victorian law.” – Vivian Waller, 8 April 2020.

    No reminders about needing to also respect the HC’s decision to twitterati on pain of legal action ?

  232. Seven States Mencius

    “COVID-19 unlikely to slowdown 5G rollout – analyst”

    Well they are not on our side these people. So you just have to stay away from places like Bondi. There are other nice beaches. Don’t stay too long at airports which have these facilities. If someone is meeting you at an airport which has 5G, get them to show up at the last minute. Don’t stay at a hotel too close to such an airport.

  233. vlad

    Question.
    The High Court said that the Viktorianistan courts should have considered that the “opportunity witnesses” raised sufficient doubt in the “Sunday Mass” accusation , so struck out that conviction.
    However, the second accusation (allegedly on a quiet weekday) had no exculpatory witnesses or tight timelines.
    However it was also struck out. The witness was declared ‘convincing’ but there was no counter argument put forward.
    Why was that?

    HCA says the allegations placed both sets of events at the Cathedral after a Sunday Mass, so the “opportunity witnesses” covered both.

    They note the inherent implausibility that no one saw the second supposed incident, but say that doesn’t have to be considered – because of the opportunity witnesses argument. But they still note it!

  234. When the HC voids the decisons of lower courts, are related suppression orders and such related orders, in turn also voided?
    If not, why not?

  235. egg_

    In Critical Coronavirus Cases, Doctors Turn to Last-Ditch Lung Support
    ECMO showed promise with some Diamond Princess cruise passengers, but therapy is labor-intensive and costly

    WSJ

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