Thursday Forum: April 9, 2020

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  1. cohenite

    All cruise ship sunk as dive wrecks and artificial surf breaks.

    Good idea stalker; they made a movie about that and it had this great scene in it:

  2. Old School Conservative

    Families will reunite for many, many beers. BBQs in backyards will still fire up

    Beware the drones, choppers, surveillance cameras and plod at the door.
    Other than that, have a great Easter.

  3. egg_

    Tas putting helicopters up to patrol so that two-headed hillbillies don’t spread the virus?
    And CV-19?

  4. harrys on the boat

    Mark McGowan has just messaged that we should get out and spend money, on coffee’s, take-aways and books.

    The cretinous filth are going nuts saying he’s giving out mixed messages and they want to be told to stay in isolation forever.

    Normal people see it as it’s over. WA doesn’t have anyone catching the disease let alone dying from it. It never did. End this now.

  5. johanna

    Well, the virus event has certainly flushed the political class. A few takeaways so far:

    (i) They are innumerate, and in particular have not the faintest grasp of elementary statistics. Nor do any of their political advisers. Given that almost all of them are lawyers, this is not surprising, but it is worrying.

    (ii) When faced with difficult political decisions involving those number thingies, they immediately hide behind ‘experts.’ They have no concept of the limitations of ‘experts’ in making decisions involving the community as a whole.

    (iii) When faced with difficult political decisions, their first instinct is to throw (our) money at them.

    (iv) When faced with difficult political decisions, the inner totalitarian in them and their advisers emerges with a rapidity and ugliness that startles even many of the old hands who vaue liberty.

    (v) The political class has no moral, religious or political compass. Hence, the rules change daily, inconsistencies abound, the people are penalised, and headless chickens would be offended by the comparison.

    and finally

    (vi) The rules are for Thee and not for me. Sacrifices are imposed on the powerless, while the powerful (i.e. the public sector) are safe and secure. Ministers and high public officials can break the rules, but the little people will be hunted down and punished.

    In relation to (vi) I refer to the Scottish CMO who nipped off for a holiday in the Highlands while everyone else was told to stay at home, the NZ Health Minister who took the family on a picnic, ditto, our own example in NSW who decamped to the country ‘for health reasons’, the Mayor of Baltimore who told everyone to stay away from hairdressers and then had a haircut because ‘her image is important,’ and who knows how many more.

    It’s been a revelation to the general public, although not, of course, to most people here.

  6. Keith Forwheels

    incoherent rambler
    #3402185, posted on April 9, 2020 at 1:11 pm
    Today, whilst venturing amongst the wilds of inner Dannograd, the sense of foreboding was overwhelming. In a Heart of Darkness sort of way.
    We are on a path where things will fall apart.

    Same here in Bris, but at least the weather’s better 🤣

  7. cohenite

    I quote William Butler Yeats:

    Great poet for a virgin and he was really bitter about it:

    I met the Bishop on the road
    And much said he and I.
    `Those breasts are flat and fallen now
    Those veins must soon be dry;
    Live in a heavenly mansion,
    Not in some foul sty.’

    `Fair and foul are near of kin,
    And fair needs foul,’ I cried.
    ‘My friends are gone, but that’s a truth
    Nor grave nor bed denied,
    Learned in bodily lowliness
    And in the heart’s pride.

    `A woman can be proud and stiff
    When on love intent;
    But Love has pitched his mansion in
    The place of excrement;
    For nothing can be sole or whole
    That has not been rent.’

    We can thank Maud Gonne for this glorious stuff; she rooted every member of the IRA but kept poor old Bill strung along for years.

  8. Farmer Gez

    8th Dan
    #3402189, posted on April 9, 2020 at 1:14 pm
    I’m a magician.

    Sleight of hand? Or slight of hand?

    A rabbit out of the hat!

  9. Oops ! From Daily Mail

    Meghan Harry suffer awkward blunder, Archewell website link redirects to Kanyes Gold Digger.

  10. egg_

    Did you bother to watch the vid DB linked last night?

    The evidence free hearsay crap from Wales?

  11. twostix

    Relying on a single 1950s death certificate and a blanket accusation that all doctors in the world are falsifying death certificates because conspiracy?

    Priceless!

    Yes but we all noticed you never answered the obvious question.

    Are China and Hong Kong’s figures (four deaths in all of Hong Kong) true and correct?

    Uhoh!

  12. Roger

    Families will reunite for many, many beers. BBQs in backyards will still fire up

    Beware the drones, choppers, surveillance cameras and plod at the door.
    Other than that, have a great Easter.

    Beware your neighbour, suburbanites!

  13. Infidel Tiger King

    Normal people see it as it’s over. WA doesn’t have anyone catching the disease let alone dying from it. It never did. End this now.

    After this weekend we must reopen everything.

    Keep the borders closed. Locals only. No eastern filth.

  14. John A

    8th Dan #3402059, posted on April 9, 2020 at 12:16 pm

    Yet another ignorant sod who confuses flouting with flaunting

    Yet again you demonstrate your conceited and excessive belief in your own intelligence.
    Perhaps you should buy a dictionary.

    Flout Express contempt

    Flaunt Ostentatious show

    And see discussion on the confusion of the terms.

    What were previously clearly distinct usages have become confused by sloppy usage. The result is poorer communication.

  15. Peter the old fossil

    It’s been a revelation to the general public, although not, of course, to most people here.

    True, Johanna, but not in the way you imply.
    A sizeable number of Cats think everything that’s happened, including virtual nationwide house arrest and the destruction of our economy, was all above board and necessary.

  16. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Mark McGowan has just messaged that we should get out and spend money, on coffee’s, take-aways and books.

    Fine, except the cops have blocked off the road between my nearest branch of Dymocks, and my place.

  17. twostix

    In relation to (vi) I refer to the Scottish CMO who nipped off for a holiday in the Highlands while everyone else was told to stay at home, the NZ Health Minister who took the family on a picnic, ditto, our own example in NSW who decamped to the country ‘for health reasons’, the Mayor of Baltimore who told everyone to stay away from hairdressers and then had a haircut because ‘her image is important,’ and who knows how many more.

    Nobody actually believes any of this nonsense about “staying at home” saving lives except dopey proles.

  18. BangLotto !

    Which state’s police will be the first to shoot someone for breaking the curfew?

    I’m going for NSW.

  19. Gilas

    Any bets on when the populus (sheeples included) will start to revolt against the new Austasi?

    Revolt, not as in writing cheeky, outrageously witty comments on blogs, or letters to the editor,
    but as in groups of civilians visibly rebelling, giving police the option of violent arrest or shooting, forcing a political crisis.

    Two weeks ago, in my romantic naivety, I gave it two weeks. So I’m out.

    Any advances from cleverer Cats?

  20. Infidel Tiger King

    I’m going for NSW.

    $1.01.

    Least likely is WA.

  21. Peter the old fossil

    Another song

  22. JC

    Cronkite

    Have you ever seen a movie less than 45 years old? Stop living in the past, you idiot.

  23. egg_

    the virus event has certainly flushed the political class useful idiots

    FTFY.

  24. Gilas.

    Very soon. Probably over Easter.

  25. johanna

    Does anyone notice a bit of awkward shuffling of feet among the political class now that their donors on both sides (not to mention angry constituents) are starting to deliver a few home truths?

    Are they discovering that relying on ‘models’ alone is very risky? Has it dawned on them that most epidemiology is junk science?

    In the US, the numbers in the model they have been using to predict infections and use of hospital beds was downgraded by 25% yesterday, and 10% a couple of days before.

    Whoops!

    Those are big numbers.

    They are lucky to have Easter to regroup, and I look forward to watching Gladys walk back her stupid statement that the economy will be paralysed until there is a vaccine.

  26. twostix

    Which state’s police will be the first to shoot someone for breaking the curfew?

    I’m going for NSW.

    Victoria has always murdered its citizens in times of upheaval. I don’t think the reforms of the last 20 years to turn it into a police service will hold that centuries old inner demon at bay!

  27. Infidel Tiger King

    I just went to the bike shop and they have completely sold out of everything.

    Must be a lot of people cycling at night.

  28. Arky

    The result is poorer (sic) communication.

    ..
    Poorerer.

  29. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Which state’s police will be the first to shoot someone for breaking the curfew?

    Victoria.

  30. Peter the old fossil

    Revolt, not as in writing cheeky, outrageously witty comments on blogs, or letters to the editor, but as in groups of civilians visibly rebelling, giving police the option of violent arrest or shooting,

    What makes you think they actually care?

  31. The Beer Whisperer

    The only data that we can rely on is total deaths. And according to that, Europe and the US are barely in the middle of a bad flu season, let alone history’s greatest pandemic.

    Ryki, here’s a great source.

  32. twostix

    Does anybody seriously believe that all of Australia’s government Ministers, advisors, top level APS employees, CEO’s and executives are sitting at home reading books this weekend??

  33. Ed Case

    Yes but we all noticed you never answered the obvious question.
    Are China and Hong Kong’s figures (four deaths in all of Hong Kong) true and correct?
    Uhoh!

    Chinese propaganda isn’t the immediate issue.
    The issue is that Western Governments are falling over themselves to perpetrate a hoax when all the evidence points to deaths this year being identical to deaths last year at the corresponding time and the year before that.
    You’re trying to call the Chinese Government as an Adverse Witness to support your case that Corona-Hoax is legit.
    Think about that

  34. Infidel Tiger King

    Best case scenario to end lockdown is a police lady shoots dead a journo trying to sneak in to their holiday home.

  35. Least likely is WA.

    VIKPOL remain an outside chance.
    Facing criticism for not shooting rampaging RoPs, they might see it as their chance to play catch up.

  36. Zatara

    Populus revolt?

    By the end of the Easter weekend unless the cops back off.

  37. Ellie

    Oh – I embedded!! 🙏🤗

  38. Mater

    Any bets on when the populus (sheeples included) will start to revolt against the new Austasi?

    I don’t know, Gilas. They’ve managed to keep them scared.

    As the meme (that is circulating) says:

    “If people were told to get in Cattle Cars to go to virus protection camps, most would rush to get into line.”

    I’m giving it 2 months before the novelty wears off.

  39. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Rambler, on the way back from buying Hot Cross Buns, I heard your “top” cop(is he really a cop, or for that matter are there any real cops left down your way?) on the radio: to wit your man Ashton was defending and even applauding the quality of the investigation into Cardinal Pell, saying everyone, including investigators, prosecutors etc did a good job. Yeats’ poem rings true.

  40. Snoopy

    I hope Morrison has a plan to support destitute Auslan signers when the Covid-19 emergency is over.

  41. Arky

    I hope Morrison has a plan to support destitute Auslan signers when the Covid-19 emergency is over.

    ..
    Bulldoze them into an open sewer.

  42. Infidel Tiger King

    A Victorian cop is most likely to shoot someone avoiding an RBT.

  43. Top Ender

    Note special entitlement…PLUS others are entitled too!

    Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot has defended her decision to get her hair cut while the rest of the city is under a stay-at-home order amid the coronavirus pandemic.

    Lightfoot is facing backlash after she violated her own quarantine advice over the weekend to go to a hair salon, and her stylist spilled the tea on social media.

    The mayor said the haircut was mandatory because she is the “public face of this city”

    “I’m on national media and I’m out in the public eye,” she responded to a reporter. “I take my personal hygiene very seriously. As I said, I felt like I needed to have a haircut. I’m not able to do that myself, so I got a haircut. You want to talk more about that?

    and

    On Tuesday, Lightfoot signed an exec-order ensuring that all immigrants — including illegal Aliens — are eligible to receive the city’s coronavirus benefits.

    Check the photos – the haircut has not helped…

  44. cohenite

    Have you ever seen a movie less than 45 years old?

    I watched one the other day; it reminded me of you:

  45. johanna

    Any bets on when the populus (sheeples included) will start to revolt against the new Austasi?

    The word you are looking for is ‘populace’.

    I wouldn’t be putting myself above people whose description you can’t even spell.

  46. Arky

    Although those Auslan signallers are an effective means of communication.
    When you see one, it communicates to you that the person talking can be safely switched off, because they’re an idiot.

  47. twostix

    It was very coincidental that right before all australians were imprisoned in our houses for an unspecified amount of time, ASIO declared the threat of “right wing” (aka anti-government) bigotty bigots meeting in their family rooms was on par with China.

    Hmmmmmmmmm.

  48. No Johanna.
    The he was looking for was serfs.

  49. Arky

    Where’s the acquittal denier this morning?

  50. Des Deskperson

    ‘Best case scenario to end lockdown is a police lady shoots dead a journo trying to sneak in to their holiday home.’

    Phil Coorey??

  51. Victoria Plod failed to take down Gargasoulus so highly improbable they will shoot anyone.

  52. harrys on the boat

    VIKPOL remain an outside chance.

    They’d be first to shoot, but miss.

  53. Fisky

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    This morning, 450,000 protective suits landed in Dallas, Texas. This was made possible because of the partnership of two great American companies—DuPont and FedEx—and our friends in Vietnam. Thank you!
    @DuPont_News

    @FedEx

    Good to see decoupling in action. China shills must be furious!

  54. johanna

    Top Ender – yes, my mistake, it was the Mayor of Chicago I was referring to.

    If you have seen the pictures, you will share the incomprehension of most people. Why bother?

  55. Peter the old fossil

    And finally, a song for a Lady who changed her mind.

  56. I will neither confirm or deny that I painted my first V graffiti last night.

  57. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Biomechanic expert sought in Kumanjayi Walker killing case

    Amos Aikman
    Northern Correspondent
    @amosaikman
    5 minutes agoApril 9, 2020
    No Comments

    Prosecutors in the high-profile alleged murder case against decorated constable Zachary Rolfe are consulting a biomechanics expert to test whether the teenage Aboriginal victim could have undertaken “particular actions” before he was shot.

    The news comes as police were this week forced to apologise to the community and suspend an officer without pay for allegedly producing clothing that displayed “highly inappropriate content” linked to the #bluelivesmatter movement.

    Nineteen-year-old Kumanjayi Walker died in the troubled outback town of Yuendumu in November in a late-night incident that shocked the nation and sparked protests with racial overtones in nearby Alice Springs and around the country.

    Police moved within days to charge Constable Rolfe — a former soldier who served in Afghanistan and who police had earlier commended for his bravery — with the crime of murder, which carries a mandatory life sentence if proven in the NT.

    That decision, which Rolfe’s legal team has branded “premature”, split the force and triggered a backlash against commissioner Jamie Chalker. He has denied claims from unionists and some frontline officers that politics influenced it.

    Alice Springs Local Court heard on Thursday that the prosecution’s brief against Rolfe already amounted to more than 161 statements, 256 annexures and multiple body-worn camera exhibits.

    Collette Dixon, appearing for the Northern Territory Director of Public Prosecutions, told judge John Birch that while the brief was extensive, key expert evidence was still missing, including from a toxicologist and a video enhancer.

    She said the biomechanics expert would comment on things like “the capacity of the deceased to undertake particular actions, given his body position”.

    Witnesses to the tragic November incident described seeing police throw Walker to a bed moments before gunshots rang out. Rolfe’s barrister, David Edwardson QC, claimed at a hearing before Christmas that Walker launched a “violent and potentially lethal” attack on the officers sent to arrest him for breaching the conditions of a suspended sentence.

    Breaking, from the Oz.

  58. Infidel Tiger King

    The Hill
    @thehill
    JUST IN: Fauci: I don’t think we should shake hands “ever again” http://hill.cm/z4KDLVE

    Trump needs to fire this hysterical arseclown immediately.

  59. C.L.

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    This morning, 450,000 protective suits landed in Dallas, Texas. This was made possible because of the partnership of two great American companies—DuPont and FedEx—and our friends in Vietnam. Thank you!

    Does that mean they were made in Vietnam and paid for by DuPont and FedEx?

  60. NoFixedAddress

    johanna
    #3402204, posted on April 9, 2020 at 1:22 pm

    Well, the virus event has certainly flushed the political class. A few takeaways so far:

    Good points Johanna

  61. Roger

    This morning, 450,000 protective suits landed in Dallas, Texas. This was made possible because of the partnership of two great American companies—DuPont and FedEx—and our friends in Vietnam. Thank you!

    Meanwhile, we got a shipment of medical equipment flown in from Wuhan.

  62. Roger

    Does that mean they were made in Vietnam

    Made in Vietnam in a DuPont factory.

  63. egg_

    the NZ Health Minister who took the family on a picnic

    And went mountain biking the weekend prior IIRC.

    We’re being played for fools.

    As others have said, they’re trialling for a serious epidemic.

  64. twostix

    “I don’t think we should ever shake hands ever again, to be honest with you. Not only would it be good to prevent coronavirus disease; it probably would decrease instances of influenza dramatically in this country,” the doctor added.

    These people are megalomaniacs.

    They want to go down in the history books as the first people in history to have prevented and completely eradicated a virus using early intervention public health policy.

    They think they’ll be put alongside the people who discovered antibiotics and cured polio.

    This is what’s driving enormous amounts of the public class at the moment: the desire to be remembered as WW2 style Leaders(tm).

  65. johanna

    twostix
    #3402262, posted on April 9, 2020 at 1:46 pm

    It was very coincidental that right before all australians were imprisoned in our houses for an unspecified amount of time, ASIO declared the threat of “right wing” (aka anti-government) bigotty bigots meeting in their family rooms was on par with China.

    Hmmmmmmmmm.

    The Brit spooks were at it at the same time, stix. Funny, that.

    I daresay the US lot would have chimed in if they didn’t know that a Great Orange Cloud was hovering over them. 🙂

  66. Zatara

    Does that mean they were made in Vietnam and paid for by DuPont and FedEx?

    Made by DuPont in Vietnam and flown out by FedEx.

  67. rickw

    Which state’s police will be the first to shoot someone for breaking the curfew?

    Victoria.

    Story from a Polish guy I used to work with from when he was in the military:

    5 minutes before curfew a drunk guy runs past the check point at full tilt.

    The other guard cocks his rifle (lock and load to some) and shoots him as he runs off.

    “What the hell did you just do?! It’s 5 minutes to curfew!”

    “It’s ok, he lives a few doors down from me, he was never going to make it home in time.”

  68. Peter the old fossil

    As others have said, they’re trialling for a serious epidemic.

    No, they are guaranteeing the profits of the banks, and commandeering our super.
    No “trialling” about it – it’s already done.

  69. Gilas

    Peter the old fossil
    #3402241, posted on April 9, 2020 at 1:40 pm

    What makes you think they actually care?

    Nothing.
    From what has transpired, it seems they don’t

    johanna
    #3402260, posted on April 9, 2020 at 1:45 pm

    Johanna, it’s latin for people.

  70. Bruce in WA

    Bolero is superb

    I’d give it a 10.

    I see what you did there.

  71. JC

    Infidel Tiger King
    #3402275, posted on April 9, 2020 at 1:50 pm
    The Hill
    @thehill
    JUST IN: Fauci: I don’t think we should shake hands “ever again” http://hill.cm/z4KDLVE

    Trump needs to fire this hysterical arseclown immediately.

    Artie, orange Hitler agrees with that 100%. Are you kidding, the orange oaf likely instructed him to say that.

  72. egg_

    Which state’s police will be the first to shoot someone for breaking the curfew?

    I’m going for NSW.

    Victoria

    The cardigans won’t revolt in a pink fit, but their plod will blow them away, regardless.

  73. johanna

    Poor bugger at the bottle shop today was wearing an elaborate mask with a vented hole on one side. We chatted, and he said it was company policy, but it was bloody uncomfortable and made it hard to breathe. Also, it rubbed up against his glasses and he was already getting a raw spot.

    Guy was more than 1m from me (cases of beer stacked in front of the counter) and at no more risk than the checkout chicks in Coles next door, who were not wearing masks.

    Tolerance for this crap is not going to last.

  74. egg_

    The only data that we can rely on is total deaths.

    Nailed it.

  75. Bruce in WA

    Least likely is WA.

    VIKPOL remain an outside chance.

    Oh, I dunno. WA TRG (Terribly Rough Guys) are wandering all over Ellenbrook at the moment, fingers hovering over their triggers, because someone (allegedly) has been “seen with a firearm” in the area.

  76. Bar Beach Swimmer

    In the US, the numbers in the model they have been using to predict infections and use of hospital beds was downgraded by 25% yesterday, and 10% a couple of days before.

    Whoops!

    Those are big numbers.

    They are lucky to have Easter to regroup, and I look forward to watching Gladys walk back her stupid statement that the economy will be paralysed until there is a vaccine

    Great couple of posts, Johanna. The modelling is very interesting. When the PM and the CMO presented the Govt’s modelling on Tuesday, their embarrassment was palpable. I think they’ll all use Easter as the “get out of gaol” card.

    Although I’m very concerned, as I’ve said on another thread, that because of the gargantuan Job Keeper legislation, which doesn’t kick in until 1 May (to be backdated to 1 Mar), what may happen is the States will again deviate from the Feds and start pulling back while leaving the Feds to pay.

    (In regard to commercial and residential tenants/landlords, I don’t think NSW has yet dealt with the Land Tax issue, and I’m sure they don’t want to give back or reduce any of that cash cow, so maybe it’s time for an out).

  77. Gilas

    Liberty revolt bets (so far):

    incoherent rambler – Probably over Easter.

    Zatara – By the end of the Easter weekend unless the cops back off.

    Mater – 2 months before the novelty wears off.

  78. egg_

    Does anybody seriously believe that all of Australia’s government Ministers, advisors, top level APS employees, CEO’s and executives are sitting at home reading books this weekend??

    Even one of Aunty’s NPH bimbos was reporting on the road from rural NSW.

  79. Remember VIKPOL did shoot a couple for having sex in a night club.

    Who knows what they will do next?

  80. Peter the old fossil

    Why would there be any need to shoot anybody?
    Australia just rolled over en masse and did what it was told.

  81. egg_

    Gilas
    #3402302, posted on April 9, 2020 at 2:06 pm

    Post Easter baby steps easing of restrictions, if I read Hunt correctly.

  82. EvilElvis

    And finally, a song for a Lady who changed her mind.

    That narrows it down…

  83. egg_

    The issue is that Western Governments are falling over themselves to perpetrate a hoax when all the evidence points to deaths this year being identical to deaths last year at the corresponding time and the year before that.

    This.

    Practice for the real thing!

  84. twostix

    Police hotline swamped with COVID-19 calls as Victorians dob in neighbours

    Imagine being a Victorian.

    What a weird specimen of a people.

  85. johanna

    Populus is indeed Latin for the people, but if you meant that you should have put it in italics. What you did was Google it and find a way out of your embarrassment.

    You must think I came down in the last shower.

    Next time you choose to disparage ‘the sheeple’ you had better make sure your spelling and grammar is perfect.

  86. EvilElvis

    Meanwhile, we got a shipment of medical equipment flown in from Wuhan.

    Just taking the piss at the highest levels. And our elites have no clue.

  87. egg_

    Practice for the real thing!

    Because the real thing will have the political class sh1tting themsleves.
    Too bad about fvcked Economies.

  88. Peter the old fossil

    That narrows it down…

    There’s only been one Lady in my life recently, Elvis.

  89. Health Tip of the day.

    When challenged by VIKPOL for breaching proximity guidelines, DO NOT under any circumstances shout “Give me Liberty or give me death”.

  90. Why would there be any need to shoot anybody?

    Because they enjoy it. It’s fun.

  91. Bruce in WA

    The issue is that Western Governments are falling over themselves to perpetrate a hoax when all the evidence points to deaths this year being identical to deaths last year at the corresponding time and the year before that.

    My wife is the most sanguine, logical, think-it-through, unflappable person I have ever met.

    But she surprised the bejezus out of me me the other day by saying she thinks the response to CV19 is a “rehearsal”. For what, she had no idea.

  92. Peter the old fossil

    Practice for the real thing!

    FMD egg, they have totally destroyed the economy AND the social fabric.
    This IS the real thing.

  93. ryki

    You guys aren’t going to believe this.

    Not only is the virus not able to kill anybody who wasn’t going to die anyway but, from the governments’ own numbers we now know that it was never even spreading!

    What epidemiologists have done – because they are all morons – is test more people and say “hey! more people are testing positive so there are more people with the disease! Let’s panic and destroy our country!”

    But you can’t do that. Most people don’t know this but epidemiologists are all utter morons. None of them know anything – and by that I mean none of them know anything about epidemiology.

    The only valid method of determining if the disease is spreading is to look at any change in the ratio of positive vs negative cases over time. If this ratio is increasing, then (assuming your samples are random) then you may well have a disease that is spreading. If the ratio is staying much the same, then the virus is not spreading.

    The reasons that the virus might not be spreading at all could be because a) the tests are meaningless and are just giving false positives; or b) the virus has already been in the population for a long time.

  94. Fisky

    Alexis Haridopolos
    @AHaridopolos
    ·
    12h
    Sorry Bernie supporters,
    Your hero, Senator Sanders, cut another deal with the DNC.
    He will likely now buy his 4th home, 3 more cars, and make millions of dollars off of his next book.
    He’ll do just fine. But you, his supporters, will be left voiceless once again!

  95. egg_

    “I don’t think we should ever shake hands ever again, to be honest with you. Not only would it be good to prevent coronavirus disease; it probably would decrease instances of influenza dramatically in this country,” the doctor added.

    Rolled gold fvckwit.

  96. stackja

    Chicago Decided to Release Prisoners During the Wuhan Coronavirus and Now It’s Proving to Be Problematic
    Beth Baumann| @eb454|Posted: Apr 08, 2020 11:55 PM

    On March 20th, a number of inmates were released from the Cook County Jail in Illinois, which is home to Chicago. Cook County Public Defender Amy Campanelli spent more than a week working with State Attorney Kim Foxx and Sheriff Tom Dart to determine which inmates should be released because they were considered high risk for contracting the Wuhan coronavirus.

    The first positive case took place on March 23rd, just three days after the 100 inmates were released. Because of the close proximity prisoners have with one another and the unsanitary conditions, there is a high probability that those who were released into the community were positive but asymptomatic.

  97. NoFixedAddress

    Peter the old fossil
    #3402221, posted on April 9, 2020 at 1:32 pm

    It’s been a revelation to the general public, although not, of course, to most people here.

    True, Johanna, but not in the way you imply.
    A sizeable number of Cats think everything that’s happened, including virtual nationwide house arrest and the destruction of our economy, was all above board and necessary.

    Bones

    I haven’t read your book nor know anything of your experiences but through various posts you have made, and others, I gather you’ve had an interesting life.

    And yes there is a small coterie of posters on The Cat that seem to go out of their way to tell us off for not believing the official line.

    But kindly consider that most folk have been and are actually gob smacked with what they see going on but do you think that an open website such as the Cat is the place to ‘let it all out’?

  98. EvilElvis

    There’s only been one Lady in my life recently, Elvis.

    I wasn’t aware, MV. Anyone we know?

  99. ryki

    And so, the data.

    In South Korea, the data (even for the period where the disease numbers were climbing the fastest), there was no spread according to the ratio.

    In Italy, there was no spread according to the ratio. This was true both before and after the lockdowns.

    In the US (and Australia but the data set is quite small) the ratio was *reducing* until the lockdowns at which point it started to rise! If anything, lockdowns promote the spread of the virus!

    At any rate, we have to conclude that either all the positive results are just false positives and/or the virus has been around for a long time and has never caused any significant harm.

  100. EvilElvis

    WA doesn’t have anyone catching the disease let alone dying from it. It never did. End this now.

    Apart from the modern day PS plague blankets sent to the Kimberley’s, I concur.

  101. Peter the old fossil

    do you think that an open website such as the Cat is the place to ‘let it all out’?

    NFA – I can’t see it making much difference now. What’s done is done.

  102. egg_

    This IS the real thing.

    They’re competing in the ruling class Olympic games trials.

  103. egg_

    The only valid method of determining if the disease is spreading is to look at any change in the ratio of positive vs negative cases over time.

    Ditto pneumonia deaths.

  104. Zatara

    Sorry Bernie supporters,
    Your hero, Senator Sanders, cut another deal with the DNC.

    How many times does he have to shit on his people for them to wake up?

    They must have heads of stone for this not to have sunk in yet but Bernie could run again 5 years from now and a flock of these moronic thugs will show up AGAIN to support him.

  105. cohenite

    The only data that we can rely on is total deaths.

    Deaths caused by what.

  106. egg_

    b) the virus has already been in the population for a long time.

    5 months at least.
    No random testing of the populus for antibodies?

  107. Top Ender

    Police do better job at busting drug dealers while not actually looking for them

    Four men allegedly found with cocaine inside a car in Sydney’s southwest have each been fined for not complying with coronavirus social distancing measures.

    Police say the men aged between 19 and 22 could not provide a reasonable excuse as to why they were sitting together in the parked car in Casula about 3am.

    The men were each fined $1000 for not complying with the Public Health Act while the drugs were seized for forensic examination.

    Meanwhile, another man was charged with drug offences after being stopped in Ultimo during the coronavirus lockdown.

    Police questioned the 40-year-old man in Ultimo yesterday afternoon and he couldn’t explain why he was outside.

    Detectives searched him and allegedly found substantial quantities of methamphetamine, ketamine and MDMA worth an estimated $50,000 in his backpack.

    The man was also reportedly carrying drug manufacturing equipment and more than $4000 in cash.

    Daily Tele

  108. Ed Case

    Chicago Decided to Release Prisoners

    Yeah, but there’s 3 separate levels of incarceration in the United Sates.
    Jails run by the County
    Prisons run by the States
    Federal Penitentiaries run by the Feds
    Now, it may be possible to spend 20 years in the County Jail if you’re reeeeaally unlucky but they’re probably releasing hubcap thieves.

  109. Question:
    Can someone provide the figures of
    1. Number of people who have died in Australia to this month from illness (not car accidents, not euthanized etc)
    2. Same as 1, but for the same period last year
    3. Total population figures for the two periods.

    ?

  110. DrBeauGan

    Why, I myself have changed champagne to domestic sparkling.

    Some of our domestic sparkling wines are better than many a genuine champagne. Likewise proseccos.

  111. Tel

    The only data that we can rely on is total deaths.

    I would say that the number of people that have been tested is probably accurate.

  112. “Tolerance for this crap is not going to last”

    I hope you are right Johanna.

    Australians by my estimation are altogether cheering on the end of civil liberties with thunderous applause.

    Especially those awful Victorians.

  113. egg_

    They’re competing in the ruling class Olympic games trials.

    And ScoMo has done such a good job with his isolation death rate!
    A black mark for the Ruby Princess bungle, but plod is questioning the skipper!

  114. johanna

    On March 20th, a number of inmates were released from the Cook County Jail in Illinois, which is home to Chicago. Cook County Public Defender Amy Campanelli spent more than a week working with State Attorney Kim Foxx and Sheriff Tom Dart to determine which inmates should be released because they were considered high risk for contracting the Wuhan coronavirus.

    Is she still in her job? The same Kim Foxx who has close connections with Hillary Clinton and gave that Jesse person who fabricated an attack from nonexistent white supremeacists a pass? Who is now being investigated as a result?

    The Dimmocrats are a running sore on the American body politic.

  115. Ed Case

    They must have heads of stone for this not to have sunk in yet but Bernie could run again 5 years from now and a flock of these moronic thugs will show up AGAIN to support him.

    He could and they would, except Bernie made out like a bandit at his only 2 real opportunities
    2016 and 2020.
    He’ll be running for his Senate place in 2024, he couldn’t run in 2008 because it was Obamas turn and he couldn’t run in 204 because he didn’t have a national profile.

  116. JC

    Cronkite

    I know you’re looking for a conspiracy to latch onto, but here’s the problem .

    Barry walks into hospital, coughing and spluttering with a 103f fever. He’s always short of breath, but it’s very severe now. Barry is 70 years old and weighs 400 lbs. Barry suffers from diabetes, liver problems and has partial heart failure. The docs put Barry in the icu and a respirator. They test the fat fuck for the China bug and three days later his heart stops . Barry is dead.

    What did Baz die from. Which illness?

    Go!

  117. If the numbers that I requested are not readily available and/or are not considered by our CMOs then the government induced “response” is a total wank.

  118. JC

    Whoops

    Baz tested positive.

  119. Fisky

    The Spectator Index
    @spectatorindex
    JAPAN: Government to spend over $2 billion to help its country’s firms move production out of China

  120. Nick

    Why, I myself have changed champagne to domestic sparkling.

    Some of our domestic sparkling wines are better than many a genuine champagne. Likewise proseccos.

    I find Australian sparkling wine to be rebarbative.

  121. Especially those awful Victorians.

    Let’s wait and see how they treat government collaborators before we criticize too harshly.

  122. johanna

    Alas, people who ever though Bernie was anything but a shyster:

    Fisky
    #3402321, posted on April 9, 2020 at 2:18 pm

    Alexis Haridopolos
    @AHaridopolos
    ·
    12h
    Sorry Bernie supporters,
    Your hero, Senator Sanders, cut another deal with the DNC.
    He will likely now buy his 4th home, 3 more cars, and make millions of dollars off of his next book.
    He’ll do just fine. But you, his supporters, will be left voiceless once again!

    Quite so.

  123. Zatara

    Police do better job at busting drug dealers while not actually looking for them

    Four men allegedly found with cocaine inside a car in Sydney’s southwest have each been fined for not complying with coronavirus social distancing measures.

    Police say the men aged between 19 and 22 could not provide a reasonable excuse as to why they were sitting together in the parked car in Casula about 3am.

    I’ve been wondering about exactly that. Do violations of the ‘social distancing measures’ serve as legitimate probable cause for search and seizure? OK, they were standing too close together or too many in a car but is that a legitimate reason for the search? Would that bust hold up in court?

    Fruit of the poisoned tree and all that.

  124. Infidel Tiger Prawn:

    Even they now want their botox and cocaine fuelled sex parties back.

    Sod the botox – I’ll be happy with the cocaine fueled sex parties.
    Ta.

  125. ryki

    I would say that the number of people that have been tested is probably accurate.

    Fair point Tel.

  126. johanna

    In keeping with the times , I present:

  127. I would say that the number of people that have been tested is probably accurate.

    With the best tests failing for 20-30% of cases, that doesn’t mean much.

  128. feelthebern

    Zatara, the amount of seizures that NSW police do at “random” road stops is off the charts.
    They’re the functions of taps & metadataing.
    The road stop is the bullshit reason given to the msm.

  129. Zatara

    Is she still in her job? The same Kim Foxx who has close connections with Hillary Clinton and gave that Jesse person who fabricated an attack from nonexistent white supremeacists a pass?

    She is still in her job because she is a black female Democrat with massive financial support from George Soros.

    One who just won the Democrat primary to run for her current seat again.

  130. ryki

    With the best tests failing for 20-30% of cases, that doesn’t mean much.

    I think Tel knows that he is just saying that at the very least, the number of tests is an accurate number.

  131. johanna

    Perhaps more to the point:

  132. calli

    Our local bottle-o has a new home delivery service. They’ve named it Knock and Run.

    🙂

  133. areff

    They’ve named it Knock and Run.

    A friend has been trapped in the Azores, where she was caught when the Xi virus erupted. Locked in her hotel room, the staff often neglect to knock when leaving her breakfast on the doormat. The result: a distraught phone call to report that, for the second day in a row, “the seagulls ate my breakfast.”

    She’s now attempting to wend her way home via NYC, LA, Sydney and, eventually, Danistan.

  134. The Beer Whisperer

    If the Democrats are withholding the malaria drugs because they work, then the Democrats are aiding and abetting deaths.

    This isn’t just some random conspiracy theory, but William Barr.

    Nothing is beneath the Democrats. Pure evil.

  135. Incoherent Rambler:

    Which state’s police will be the first to shoot someone for breaking the curfew?
    I’m going for NSW.

    I’ll have Victoria, please.
    And the taser award for Tasmania.

  136. The Beer Whisperer

    But of course he’s wrong. It’s not because Trump praised it, but because the virus helps them get mail-in voting so they can steal the election.

  137. Gilas

    johanna
    #3402311, posted on April 9, 2020 at 2:11 pm

    Populus is indeed Latin for the people, but if you meant that you should have put it in italics. What you did was Google it and find a way out of your embarrassment.

    You must think I came down in the last shower.

    No, I did Latin in high school, as part of a classical European education, all too long ago.
    Not bragging, but probably a better education than you had.

    One can see why some other Cats have taken an intense dislike to you.
    Have a nice life.

  138. 8th Dan

    Barry walks into hospital, coughing and spluttering with a 103f fever. He’s always short of breath, but it’s very severe now. Barry is 70 years old and weighs 400 lbs. Barry suffers from diabetes, liver problems and has partial heart failure. The docs put Barry in the icu and a respirator. They test the fat fuck for the China bug and three days later his heart stops . Barry is dead.

    What did Baz die from. Which illness?

    BenBatterham-itis

  139. ryki

    BenBatterham-itis

    8th Dan tries to be funny in order to get out of answering a question that he knows will ruin his narrative.

  140. Mother Lode

    Poorerer.

    Heh?

    I thought it was ‘morely poorier’.

  141. Fisky

    It looks like China’s state media have given up trying to coopt the late Dr Li Wenliang as a “patriotic martyr” and are now back to smearing him as a troublemaker. Suggests that Beijing were NOT blindsided at all by the initial cover-up by Wuhan authorities, and were probably calling the shots.

    Global Times
    @globaltimesnews
    Fang Fang is a next target of the West following “whistleblower” doctor Li Wenliang, who were both labelled “heroes” to sabotage Chinese people’s efforts to fight the #COVID19 outbreak and blame China for the global health crisis: observers https://bit.ly/3c1hKnZ

  142. cohenite

    For those bored I recommend a couple of Claudette Colbert movies: I’m just re-watching Midnight with Claudette and John Barrymore; it’s a lot of fun, a Screwball comedy; and after that you can watch The Palm beach Story which is a bit more hectic albeit just as elegant. Some people say Sturges copied the storyline from Midnight but Sturges didn’t have to copy anything.

    Both movies are free on ok.ru. videos.

    Only a decadent bum like head prefect would not enjoy them.

  143. cohenite

    What did Baz die from. Which illness?

    That’s what I said you idiot; poor folk who are on their last legs with one or many pre-existing ailments die and then it’s discovered they coincidentally had the chunk virus which is blamed for their death when it could have been their pre-existing condition. FFS, will you read what I say.

    Go!

    Go fucking where. I wish you would go to the Moon.

  144. areff

    Surprise! Surprise!

    ABC News home page has only one mention of Pell, a report that he has been released.

    They really think if they just say “let’s move on”, their crimes against, fact, journalism and decency will be forgotten.

    Anyone heard a peep from Minister Fletcher?

    Nah, didn’t think so. So the ABC is safe from recrimination, just as it always knew it would be.

  145. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From cohenite at 1:19 pm:

    ” All cruise ship sunk as dive wrecks and artificial surf breaks.

    Good idea stalker; they made a movie about that and it had this great scene in it:”

    and what do you come up with? Jaqueline Bissett dressed in not much more than a white t-shirt climbing out of the ocean in The Deep. That is both most welcome, most welcome! and cruel.

    She’s was gorgeous, she was 33 then and sex on legs – I know, I had stalked her from the time I saw her in Bullitt with the great Steve McQueen – I was in my late teens then and she never knew I existed.

    The film’s producer, Peter Guber, said “That T-shirt made me a rich man.”

    She hated the wet T-shirt scenes because she “felt exploited” – typical dumb cow had no appreciation that the scene made her rich too.

  146. Struth

    What information do you want to know and why does it matter?
    What are you going to do about it?

    The second these pricks pulled this stunt, was the time to instantly scream the house down.
    Our nation is feminized and emasculated.
    Figures of deaths are irrelevant and as has been the case already, mostly made up.

    Oh, there will be talk of backing off some restrictions, in some states as they solidify their hold, but then there will be a guaranteed outbreak requiring all to be prisoners again.
    And so on.
    Theatre.
    Film of Italian hospitals showing nothing anyway, used as NY hospitals showing nothing and MSN liars that are after global socialist domination and the end of Trump’s USA were believed by women and some beta men at the start due to fear and hysteria.
    Have a cold and shoot yourself in the head and Cause of Death in Socialist Italy, belt and road northern Italy, is the cold.
    Same as USA, same as here, same as England.
    Who wants to make a bet BJ lives?
    I will.
    He will miraculously recover.

    Unable to push their feelings back down in periods of confrontation as men have been brought up to do for centuries, they muddied the response, screamed in fear, put masks on and imprisoned themselves as the government told them to do.
    No questions asked.

    I’ve been working with the inlaws business up until now and it’s very interesting to watch the difference to this by men and by women.
    Women will be masked about 90 percent more than men.
    I’m being generous, as I have only seen one teen with his mum both masked, as males wearing masks.
    I’m sure they are in the cities.

    The point being, is we cannot fight this, while the women and beta males screech and virtue signal what is actually a total capitulation to totalitarian government without a shot fired.
    Don’t you care about the old people, they will ask as they head for the gas chambers thinking they are doing god’s work.

    We can fight wayward pollies, but we can’t fight a feminized Australia that wants all this, and needs to feel safe and want the government to provide it.
    And now it is too late without much blood shed.
    Our freedom has not temporarily gone, it is gone.
    Done.
    And as I said earlier, if you want it back, you are going to need those dirty evil white men, to stop raping you, and committing acts of violence against you, and to stop being racist , colonialist murderers of indigenous peoples, and instead, fight for your freedom.
    You aren’t worth it.
    I’m one of those white arse holes you all loathed, so get on with it.
    You go girls.
    Nota has it sorted, see her…….
    When I immediately jumped up and down about this, she dismissed me with all her feminine wisdom, and told me to stop over reacting.
    Then you only need to go to the shops to see the mass hysteria of a feminized nation on display.
    When people take over your nation, and they have, and your women mouth off and tell you to calm down, let them deal with it.
    Ladies, your turn.
    Ladies, when will you fight for our freedom?
    Many of you will die, but we will build memorials to you, ……..do it for us.
    Do it now, the sooner you get organised, the easier it will be, as they are solidifying their hold every second you delay.
    This is not directed to the cat ladies as such, not to Johanna, or Cassie of Sydney, Lizzie, or many of the others that we would die in the trenches to protect but to the mouthy Australian sisterhood in general.

    Your turn.

  147. notafan

    Very important elder.

    Exemption for 80, only 30 expected to turn up.

    In other words, everyone.

  148. areff

    Cohenite and all other housebound cats: Really enjoyed the sci-fi flick Ex Machina on SBS on-demand.

    Heartily recommended

  149. notafan

    If you think Australia is whipped, you only have yourself to blame.

  150. Peter the old fossil

    FFS, will you read what I say.

    Alas, largely a lost skill here, Cohenite.
    Most Cats manage to read what they want to see – never mind what’s actually there.

  151. notafan

    Underlying health issues, pregnant, elderly and couldn’t afford bail.

    Seems reasonable.

    Perhaps they should have gone into two weeks quarantine before going home.

    But Cook County is broke.

  152. NoFixedAddress

    And I laughed and laughed and laughed

    It’s a couple of days ago but the darkening begins.

    Only need the NBN to go down now!

    Regional media broadcasters to shut down signals, end bulletins

    Regional media outlets are preparing to stop news bulletins and shut down some broadcast signals altogether as they face the prospect of running out of cash this financial year due to the COVID-19 crisis.

    Commercial free-to-air regional broadcasters Prime Media Group, WIN Corp and Southern Cross Austereo are asking the Morrison government to underwrite their businesses help them through the pandemic, as advertising revenue falls as much as 50 per cent.

    https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/business/companies/regional-media-broadcasters-to-shut-down-signals-end-bulletins-20200404-p54h1n.html

  153. notafan

    Clearly somebody has a woman problem 😂

    Never mentions a single individual male that doesn’t hold his extremist views.

  154. Zatara

    World Health Organisation’s ‘China centric’ leader launches bizarre attack on Taiwan

    “The leader of the World Health Organisation has gone on a bizarre rant attacking Taiwan while claiming to be the victim of racist comments and death threats. WHO general manager Tedros Adhanom was responding to calls he should resign for failing to condemn China’s role in covering up the coronavirus crisis which has since killed more than 87,000 people.”

    The exchange has been condemned as evidence the WHO is heavily influenced by China.

    Mr Adhanom did not respond directly to criticisms he mishandled the crisis and instead went on a tirade about racism.

    Racism indeed. Guess who read the Democrat check-list for how to respond when caught red handed?

  155. Mother Lode

    I should like to see (since I can’t do it) a columnist right an open letter to the police.

    It should point out that there has historically been a bond of goodwill by the public toward the police. It starts perhaps when children are told the police will always come to their aid and protect them from bad people. It lingers long into adulthood and there is a respect given to the uniform.

    It can be strained and stretched at the best of times, but the public’s cooperation with the police lets them see, hear, and reach further than they ever could otherwise.

    It is an asset that is written up in no balance sheet, a currency accepted everywhere, and with value beyond calculation. It exists between officers and the public. The pact is between the officers and the public. No politician by any action, by any legislation, program, speech, or force replace it once lost.

    When a kidnapped child is saved it is not the politicians who wrote the law we thank. It is not some professional code of conduct we thank. It is the officers. When a body must be pried broken and bleeding from the tangled wreck of a car, it is not the local area command we turn to. When a gang of thugs is kicking the living shit out of some guy, we don’t trust the bean counters and press officers to step between them.

    As I say, politicians wold never be able to create this, but they are able to destroy it with their ill-considered adventures after ephemeral political gain.

    The fines, the warnings, the threats, and the admonishments are each costing them a little more respect. No one cares that a politician or a bureaucrat demanded it, because we also trust police not to finally belong to the citizen us, not the political them.

    What they are squandering today they will have lost forever.

  156. Mother Lode

    Releasing criminals in Chicago?

    Like tipping a cup of salt into the ocean.

  157. EvilElvis

    If you’re “ very important “ you can have 80 at your funeral.

    So a leave pass for 80, plus no doubt, of societies most susceptible. The susceptible that we lock ourselves away for. Not. Even. Fucking. Serious.

  158. Gilas

    Struth
    #3402406, posted on April 9, 2020 at 3:26 pm

    What are you going to do about it?

    A good question Struth.
    Unless I’m mistaken, you are the only Cat who’s acted, not just waffled, against Govt abuse.

    When, do you think, will others (sheeples, betas and doctor’s wives excluded) start to push back against the new Bolshe-Nazis?

  159. Mother Lode

    If you’re “ very important “ you can have 80 at your funeral.
    https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/funeral-for-very-significant-elder-allowed-to-go-ahead-with-80-mourners-20200409-p54ikn.html

    If the government really were worried about the contagiousness of the virus du jour then they are showing a very indifferent attitude towards Aborigines. What, it is less important if they get sick with the illness which is the modern equivalent of the meteor that wiped out the dinosaurs?

  160. Arky

    Mr Adhanom did not respond directly to criticisms he mishandled the crisis and instead went on a tirade about racism.

    ..
    It’s not your race that’s the problem cockhead.

  161. Confused Old Misfit

    Dawn.
    Anzac Day

  162. Crossie

    NSW Keystone Kops are raiding the Ruby Princess Pirate ship. Can this get any more ridiculous?

  163. bundyrum

    Mother Lode, sounds good until you remember the children (especially females) in Britain were totally abandoned by the police there.
    In the last 20 years I have lost respect to the police here.

  164. NoFixedAddress

    Another Italian Bridge in the North collapses

  165. Crossie

    All cruise ship sunk as dive wrecks and artificial surf breaks.

    And while we’re at it let’s wipe out the entire tourist industry.

  166. cohenite

    I know, I had stalked her from the time I saw her in Bullitt with the great Steve McQueen

    Oh dear, your takeaway from Bullitt was Jackie and not this:

  167. ryke

    I don’t know struth. When the UK ordered the lockdown apparently there was 93% support amongst Britons. Presumably the vast majority of men supported it too. I agree that women are, more typically, prone to fear based decision making but this mass hysteria has gripped most sexes. And I’ve seen plenty of men in masks (although, again, I agree women are more likely).

    The bravest soul on the planet right now is probably Candace Owens.

    Let’s not forget that Mike Cernovich completely disgraced himself on this issue (at least he has the good sense to walk it back now though). Tucker Carlson too. Most of the alt-right wet their pants over this virus. Some continue to do so.

    Donald Trump – supposedly the bravest leader in history – fell to water the moment people mentioned germs could kill people. If he doesn’t tell Governors to open up their states by 1 May (and I don’t think he will) then he will be completely unelectable in November. I’m even tipping him not to run. The hysteria is dying down (very slowly) and politicians will need to show they are ahead not behind otherwise they are stuffed at reelection time. And this particularly applies to Trump because his base is the demographic most affected by the economic slowdown.

  168. Cassie of Sydney

    “Anyone heard a peep from Minister Fletcher?”

    Don’t be silly Areff…..you can always be guaranteed that a Coalition government minister will be missing in action when it comes to their ABC….and Fletcher…he would have to rank as one of the most snivelling, wimp and limp Liberals around.

  169. Farmer Gez

    Take out New York from COVID19 stats and the US would be doing well.
    Why is NYC such a cesspit of disease?
    Los Angeles has just over 200 deaths and NYC has 6200. At twice the population the Big Apple has thirty times the death rate.
    Something is very wrong in New York and Trump should look into the causes once the crisis has passed.

  170. bundyrum

    Cassie, can you name a Lib that isn’t a sniveling wimp?

  171. Crossie

    It was instructive that Goulburn Police refused to help the Cardinal get rid of the reptiles of the press who were stalking him all the way from melbourne.
    “Not our job”. Bullshit.

    This caught my attention in the previous thread. It seems police in all states are not covering themselves in glory during this crisis.

  172. Roger

    Take out New York from COVID19 stats and the US would be doing well.
    Why is NYC such a cesspit of disease?

    8 million people living cheek by jowel.

    And millions more o/s visitors.

    Apparently the virus came to NY from Europe.

  173. BrettW

    On the radio and this from The Oz.

    Does this mean fully open as normal or just providing a space for some kids to go ? Just before holiday started my grandson’s private school had two classrooms open but the teachers not providing teaching in them. Radio just as typing suggests not referring to fully open so quite a bit confusing.

    “Mr Tehan told Sky News on Thursday that independent schools which refused to open after the Easter school break face losing their federal funding.

    “It’s safe for schools to be open. We want to ensure all parents have that choice – if they’re working, we don’t have them to make that decision between going to work and staying at home,” he said.

    “We have made it a condition (for funding) that they are open to provide that environment for students to learn who can’t safely learn at home.”

    The national cabinet is meeting now to discuss how different states will handle the return of Term 2. It is expected decisions over schools will be left to state premiers”.

  174. Mother Lode

    I hope Morrison has a plan to support destitute Auslan signers when the Covid-19 emergency is over.

    ..
    Bulldoze them into an open sewer.

    Tie their hands behind their backs so they can’t even cry out.

  175. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Victoria Laurie
    19 MINUTES AGO | 3.45pm
    More cases in Kimberley health workers

    An ongoing outbreak of positive coronavirus cases among health workers in the Kimberley region is causing concern to WA health authorities.

    West Australia has experienced 14 new cases of Covid-19 overnight, bringing the state total up to 495.

    The figure includes two more cases from the remote east Kimberley town of Halls Creek involving health care workers, adding to two who have already tested positive.

    One is identified as a close contact of a healthworker who previously tested positive, and the other is under investigation.

    It brings to nine the number of healthworkers testing positive in the Kimberley, which now has a total of 17 Covid-19 confirmed cases.

    Health minister Roger Cook says it is concerning that healthcare workers are becoming infected.

    He says his department is confident that the new Halls Creek cases were not in contact with Aboriginal people or members of community.

    Halls Creek services dozens of outlying Aboriginal communities, which are considered to have some of the nation’s most vulnerable cohorts of elederly, sick or immune-compromised residents.

    The Australian reported on Wednesday that a doctor in Halls Creek, one of the two health workers already diagnosed with the virus in the town, was at work during the infectious period, including the 24 hours before symptoms showed.

    Breaking, from the Oz.

  176. Struth

    Clearly somebody has a woman problem 😂

    Yeah me.
    Not all of you, but most of you.
    And for very good reason, you fucking spoilt, mouthy, arrogant people.
    The women who had the most freedom, the most equality, the most opportunity in the history of the world, went hysterical when you got it, and turned on your men, wanting to ensure you can kill your unborn because you have rights, blah blah, feelings before fact marxist garbage dribbled constantly and the fact that as a demographic, if you did not vote we would not have left wing government anywhere in the west
    The last few years of mass white man hating has been insulting and pathetic in the extreme.
    You can’t deny it hasn’t happened, so tell us Notafan, what are your plans?
    You go girls.
    I was going to have a crack against the pollies and cops, but you can’t win if three quarters of the actual population want this still, even though oh too late, some of you brainless dildos have now seen the error of your ways but won’t admit it.
    Too late.
    You all screamed at fake propaganda and locked yourself in your houses where you remain.

    Fuck Feminised, gutless dumb, Australia.
    Pathetic shit hole.
    You want to save it, get another tattoo on your fat rolls girls, and go out and do it.
    you don’t need men.

  177. Crossie

    Cassie of Sydney
    #3402442, posted on April 9, 2020 at 3:56 pm
    “Anyone heard a peep from Minister Fletcher?”

    Don’t be silly Areff…..you can always be guaranteed that a Coalition government minister will be missing in action when it comes to their ABC….and Fletcher…he would have to rank as one of the most snivelling, wimp and limp Liberals around.

    He’s in lockdown, can’t respond until the emergency passes.

  178. Crossie

    Farmer Gez
    #3402444, posted on April 9, 2020 at 3:59 pm
    Take out New York from COVID19 stats and the US would be doing well.
    Why is NYC such a cesspit of disease?
    Los Angeles has just over 200 deaths and NYC has 6200. At twice the population the Big Apple has thirty times the death rate.
    Something is very wrong in New York and Trump should look into the causes once the crisis has passed.

    The difference is population density. LA is almost all suburbs, spread out far and wide, New York population is compressed in a much smaller area.

    The new housing policy of urban consolidation will cost lives.

  179. RobK

    An interesting snipette, easy to read article:

    http://blackjay.net/?p=813

    Covid-19 had us all fooled, but now we might have finally found its secret.

    In the last 3–5 days, a mountain of anecdotal evidence has come out of NYC, Italy, Spain, etc. about COVID-19 and characteristics of patients who get seriously ill. It’s not only piling up but now leading to a general field-level consensus backed up by a few previously little-known studies that we’ve had it all wrong the whole time. Well, a few had some things eerily correct, especially with Hydroxychloroquine with Azithromicin, but we’ll get to that in a minute.

    There is no ‘pneumonia’ nor ARDS (Acute Respiratory Address Syndrome). At least not the ARDS with established treatment protocols and procedures we’re familiar with. Ventilators are not only the wrong solution, but high pressure intubation can actually wind up causing more damage than without, not to mention complications from tracheal scarring and ulcers given the duration of intubation often required… They may still have a use in the immediate future for patients too far to bring back with this newfound knowledge, but moving forward a new treatment protocol needs to be established so we stop treating patients for the wrong disease.

    The past 48 hours or so have seen a huge revelation: COVID-19 causes prolonged and progressive hypoxia (starving your body of oxygen) by binding to the heme groups in hemoglobin in your red blood cells. People are simply desaturating (losing O2 in their blood), and that’s what eventually leads to organ failures that them, not any oxidative iron from the hemes, this overwhelms the natural defenses against pulmonary oxidative stress and causes that nice, always-bilateral ground glass opacity in the lungs. Patients returning for re-hospitalization days or weeks after recovery suffering from apparent delayed post-hypoxic leukoencephalopathy strengthen the notion COVID-19 patients are suffering from hypoxia despite no signs of respiratory ‘tire out’ or fatigue.

    Here’s the breakdown of the whole process. Much
    has been simplified just to keep it digestible and layman-friendly.

    Your red blood cells carry oxygen from your lungs to all your organs and the rest of your body. Red blood cells can do this thanks to hemoglobin, which is a protein consisting of four “hemes”. Hemes have a special kind of iron ion, which is normally quite toxic in its free form, locked away in its center with a porphyrin acting as it’s ‘container’. In this way, the iron ion can be ‘caged’ and carried around safely by the hemoglobin, but used to bind to oxygen when it gets to your lungs.

    When the red blood cell gets to the alveoli, or the little sacs in your lungs where all the gas exchange happens, that special little iron ion can flip between FE2+ and FE3+ states with electron exchange and bond to some oxygen, then it goes off on its little merry way to deliver O2 elsewhere.

    Here’s where COVID-19 comes in. Its glycoproteins bond to the heme, and in doing so that special and toxic oxidative iron ion is “disassociated” (released). It’s basically let out of the cage and now freely roaming around on its own. This is bad for two reasons:

    RTWT

  180. Mother Lode

    Does that mean they were made in Vietnam and paid for by DuPont and FedEx?

    Isn’t there a war there.

    There’s a guy who comes here and talks about it all the time. Well, not about the war per se, but about the sheer hell of operating a projector. He talks as though he was just there.

  181. Gilas

    Mother Lode
    #3402422, posted on April 9, 2020 at 3:43 pm

    It should point out that there has historically been a bond of goodwill by the public toward the police. It starts perhaps when children are told the police will always come to their aid and protect them from bad people. It lingers long into adulthood and there is a respect given to the uniform.

    The police’s role is not to protect the public. Never has been.
    Most interactions with police are as a potential law-breaker, looking at a fine, or court attendance, or arrest. Where does the great adulation for these weaponised bullies come from?

    Europeans have known this for centuries and treat police with the suspicion they deserve. After all, they are armed and the proles aren’t.

    The fact that Australians have this overwhelming respect and support for an armed control force has always been amusing to me. ?convict history? just a guess.

    The next few weeks are going to be interesting..

  182. Crossie

    Ann Sanders at Chsnnel Seven just asked a reporter in Goulburn if there has been any sign of George Pell. One, why would a persecuted old man want to come out to amuse the media pack? Second, have they forgotten there is a lockdown and an old churchman is unlikely to break it?

  183. BrettW

    Actually I do believe most would be working (ok with the exception of the NSW Minister Harwin who seems like a bit of a shirker). However significant thousands are not performing their normal duties (ie. cultural centre staff, library and swimming pool staff, Australian Institute of Sport, driving test testers etc).

    “twostix
    #3402244, posted on April 9, 2020 at 1:40 pm
    Does anybody seriously believe that all of Australia’s government Ministers, advisors, top level APS employees, CEO’s and executives are sitting at home reading books this weekend??”

  184. Infidel Tiger King

    Apparently the virus came to NY from Europe.

    The virus has been spread by the affluent to kill elderly, the poor and the inform.

    There is a very good case for punitive wealth taxes on the depraved western rich and crippling tariffs on China after this.

  185. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    There’s a guy who comes here and talks about it all the time.

    Really? Which side was he on?

  186. Crossie

    The police’s role is not to protect the public. Never has been.
    Most interactions with police are as a potential law-breaker, looking at a fine, or court attendance, or arrest. Where does the great adulation for these weaponised bullies come from?

    Television shows though there are far fewer of them now than when I was a kid.

  187. Crossie

    Dear God, we are in lockdown but a plane from Wuhan is hunky-dory.

  188. Roger

    have they forgotten there is a lockdown and an old churchman is unlikely to break it?

    TV “journos” & their camera crew, however, feel no compunction about doing so.

    And the Goulburn police don’t appear to be interested.

    I don’t imagine their commissioner will be impressed…if only he could be momentarily distracted from his crusade against Joe Public.

  189. Cassie of Sydney

    “Not all of you, but most of you.”

    I agree with much of your sentiment Struth…but some of us are okay.

  190. Roger

    Dear God, we are in lockdown but a plane from Wuhan is hunky-dory.

    It was carrying urgently needed faulty Chinese medical supplies.

  191. Peter the old fossil

    Unless I’m mistaken, you are the only Cat who’s acted, not just waffled, against Govt abuse.

    Not quite true. Planning armed insurrection at any time is pointless. We are outgunned. Planning any action at all this Easter or Anzac Day, is equally pointless – there simply isn’t enough time. On top of that, Anzac Day is NOT the day for any kind of protest.

    I’ve been at this a tad longer than Struth – by about 25 years – and contrary to his opinion we have time to plan and do this properly.

    For reasons I will not go into now, my target date is Australia Day, January 26, 2020. There is just one more piece to fall into place, the implementation of the The Currency (Restrictions on the Use of Cash) Bill 2019, and then we begin to organise and advertise our opposition.

    Patience!

  192. Mitch M.

    When the red blood cell gets to the alveoli, or the little sacs in your lungs where all the gas exchange happens, that special little iron ion can flip between FE2+ and FE3+ states with electron exchange and bond to some oxygen, then it goes off on its little merry way to deliver O2 elsewhere.

    Here’s where COVID-19 comes in. Its glycoproteins bond to the heme, and in doing so that special and toxic oxidative iron ion is “disassociated” (released). It’s basically let out of the cage and now freely roaming around on its own. This is bad for two reasons:

    Thanks. Interesting. Certainly free heme can be very toxic and this might explain the lung damage that is occurring. It might also explain the autopsy findings of brain damage in patients because brains tend to accumulate iron, are the most vascularised region in the body, and free iron in the brain is a very bad thing. There are even studies showing a correlation between iron levels of some dementia forms.

  193. Crossie

    Roger
    #3402481, posted on April 9, 2020 at 4:19 pm
    Dear God, we are in lockdown but a plane from Wuhan is hunky-dory.

    It was carrying urgently needed faulty Chinese medical supplies.

    Of course, we need more for the landfills.

  194. notafan

    Fairly traditional Catholic here.

    I’d say the solution was obvious.

    But it’s one that doesn’t suit you, and most other Aussie blokes.

    Funny that.

  195. BrettW

    The bodycam footage cant be that convincing, regarding murder, then.

    “Prosecutors in the high-profile alleged murder case against decorated constable Zachary Rolfe are consulting a biomechanics expert to test whether the teenage Aboriginal victim could have undertaken “particular actions” before he was shot”.

  196. Steve trickler

    Recorded April 3rd.



  197. notafan

    Cardinal Pell caught in his ‘gardening clothes’ according to the Australian.

    Obviously lost weight and wearing his pre prison clobber, the man had never been a clothes horse

    Fyi the shops are shut.

    That’s all they had.

  198. Mother Lode:

    It should point out that there has historically been a bond of goodwill by the public toward the police. It starts perhaps when children are told the police will always come to their aid and protect them from bad people. It lingers long into adulthood and there is a respect given to the uniform.

    Thank you.
    My sentiments as well.
    What has been squandered cannot be replaced.
    The fallout from this debacle will take decades to repair.

  199. Fisky

    For a totally natural virus that slipped out of a bat market, this thing is acting a lot like a bioweapon…

    Bloomberg
    @business
    · 33m
    The coronavirus may be “reactivating” in people who have been cured of the illness, according to Korea’s Centers for Disease Control and Prevention https://trib.al/1w2gN8U

  200. BrettW

    Cant wait for the movie ! Red Dawn Oz.

    Peter the old fossil
    #3402482, posted on April 9, 2020 at 4:19 pm
    Unless I’m mistaken, you are the only Cat who’s acted, not just waffled, against Govt abuse.

    Not quite true. Planning armed insurrection at any time is pointless. We are outgunned. Planning any action at all this Easter or Anzac Day, is equally pointless – there simply isn’t enough time. On top of that, Anzac Day is NOT the day for any kind of protest.

    I’ve been at this a tad longer than Struth – by about 25 years – and contrary to his opinion we have time to plan and do this properly.

    For reasons I will not go into now, my target date is Australia Day, January 26, 2020. There is just one more piece to fall into place, the implementation of the The Currency (Restrictions on the Use of Cash) Bill 2019, and then we begin to organise and advertise our opposition.

    Patience!

  201. Struth

    When, do you think, will others (sheeples, betas and doctor’s wives excluded) start to push back against the new Bolshe-Nazis?

    You’ll know as much as me.
    I’m not lifting a finger.
    The convoy was big, and people came in their thousands, but it’s just not enough, although it did good.
    But there was a very real anti Ju-liar Gillard vibe around Australia.
    This time, gullible betas and women have thrown themselves under the jackboot literally , they want to be there.
    You can’t fight what most of the nation wants.
    I will see tempers getting flaired up, but again I state, the media are 150 percent lying corrupt left wing activists.
    So none of it will be reported, and if something gets up the fearful amongst us will condemn it.

    We are done.
    It is over.
    And it was sudden, I’ll admit I thought it was global warming bullshit, but it has also been the work of socialists world wide for 60 odd years, starting with the Frankfurt school and oddly enough, in meetings in Italy.
    Most Australians don’t know the country has a constitution.
    There is no excuse for that.
    I am 53 so it was taken out of my schools by Whitlam before I went.
    But I made it my duty to learn it.
    I self taught and continue to do so, some of the reason I like coming here.

    Most couldn’t give a shit.
    Well, fuck ’em.

    The country wants this, and by the time it doesn’t anymore, we probably won’t be alive, either by old age, or the fact that you commented here for years.

    This will be allowed to reopen, and then they’ll close it again.
    That will be allowed to open then closed again, until people get the picture. and
    The thugs in charge have the guns, and you will pay them to operate.
    You will be harassed, broken and dirt poor.
    Your daily life will consist of chasing all basics you took for granted in only Feb 2020.
    Crime will be rampant, we are now going to be the Venezuela we knew was coming.

    And it’s what we deserve.
    Be fucked if I’m fighting this time.
    I don’t like Australia or most Australians.
    Dumbest people on earth.
    With all the natural wealth, and resource rich, space and the gift of Judeo Christian, Westminster start, we should have been up there with the USA.
    Shit hole.
    My only laugh is Numbers, and all those that wanted this, are now going to experience life under communist China with a puppet leader.

  202. Fisky

    For reasons I will not go into now, my target date is Australia Day, January 26, 2020. There is just one more piece to fall into place, the implementation of the The Currency (Restrictions on the Use of Cash) Bill 2019, and then we begin to organise and advertise our opposition.

    What is it with you and your Australia Day uprisings, Memoryfault?

  203. NoFixedAddress

    Anne,

    Come on Down

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    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/huge-brilliant-dr-shiva-inventor-email-outlines-connections-bill-gates-dr-fauci-cdc-relevant-coronavirus-pandemic/

  204. Peter the old fossil

    If you’ve got a better idea, BrettW, I’m all ears.

    I’ve got money, time, and assorted skills I’m prepared to bring to the table. Just tell me what you’ve got in mind so we can get started.

    Or are you in the Nota/Knuckles camp – what problem?

  205. Cassie of Sydney

    “Cardinal Pell caught in his ‘gardening clothes’ according to the Australian.”

    I thought that too Nota…when I read it I thought that this is absolutely scraping the bottom of the barrel..modern progressive activism masquerading as journalism. I also note that ALL comments on all Pell pieces in The Oz are closed…..no comments allowed whatsoever.

    And here are my thoughts when I watched the video of Pell yesterday stopping at the service station….I thought that despite all he has endured over the last five years….culminating in being wrongfully imprisoned….that the good cardinal actually looks quite good and sounded upbeat…good on him…if that was me I would probably be consumed with bitterness.

  206. Farmer Gez

    The difference is population density. LA is almost all suburbs, spread out far and wide, New York population is compressed in a much smaller area.

    That’s true Crossie and NYC boroughs have the highest densities of any US city.
    That’s still correlation and we skeptics Cats should not assign it as causation. There may be other vectors at work. New York rats, for instance, carry many bacterial and viral diseases.
    It is estimated that over two million rats live in NYC.

  207. RobK #3402466, posted on April 9, 2020 at 4:10 pm

    If true then the Xi bio-weapon has us truly fscked.

  208. egg_

    Regional media outlets are preparing to stop news bulletins and shut down some broadcast signals altogether as they face the prospect of running out of cash this financial year due to the COVID-19 crisis.

    Commercial free-to-air regional broadcasters Prime Media Group, WIN Corp and Southern Cross Austereo are asking the Morrison government to underwrite their businesses help them through the pandemic, as advertising revenue falls as much as 50 per cent.

    Hey, but it’s all BAU for the rosary beads Big Church tyke frat.

    There are no Medico rubbery figures, all you conspiracy nutters!

  209. Peter the old fossil

    Fisky,

    I thought you were still in the Battye Library, looking for books and articles that were never there.
    When did you get out?

  210. Mr. fossil,
    organized? haha

    Just expect one riot, which will initiate another. You know how it works.

  211. Beertruk

    Tas putting helicopters up to patrol so that two-headed hillbillies don’t spread the virus?

    Does that mean the Taswegians will be fined twice?

  212. egg_

    If you think Australia is whipped, you only have yourself to blame.

    Victorians got the Govt they deserved, good and hard.

  213. Stanley

    Hey Bill, that Tripp woman just died. Hillary, I repeat “I did not have se$ with that woman”.

  214. Mother Lode

    NSW Keystone Kops are raiding the Ruby Princess Pirate ship. Can this get any more ridiculous?

    It could be a blood bath.

    *Bursting into the dining room*

    “Look! There is a virus on that man’s cardigan”

    BLAM! BLAM! BLAM!

    “Nah, it was a piece of cheese. Over there! It is holding that woman hostage!”

    BLAM! BLAM! BLAM!

    “I think I got it.”

    “Yeah, good job. But how did you do all that with just tea spoons?”

  215. Peter the old fossil

    Just expect one riot

    I’m not holding my breath, Rambler.

  216. Does that mean the Taswegians will be fined twice?

    No. The fines for the average family of 23 is punishment enough.

  217. notafan

    Egg running a vendetta, trolling my comments like a Greta.

    Pathetic little SME weirdo.

  218. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    An interesting snipette, easy to read article:

    http://blackjay.net/?p=813

    Covid-19 had us all fooled, but now we might have finally found its secret.

    the original article on medium has been taken down. what the hell?

  219. Farmer Gez

    Mitch M.
    #3402484, posted on April 9, 2020 at 4:20 pm
    When the red blood cell gets to the alveoli, or the little sacs in your lungs where all the gas exchange happens, that special little iron ion can flip between FE2+ and FE3+ states with electron exchange and bond to some oxygen, then it goes off on its little merry way to deliver O2 elsewhere.

    Here’s where COVID-19 comes in. Its glycoproteins bond to the heme, and in doing so that special and toxic oxidative iron ion is “disassociated” (released). It’s basically let out of the cage and now freely roaming around on its own. This is bad for two reasons:

    Thanks. Interesting. Certainly free heme can be very toxic and this might explain the lung damage that is occurring. It might also explain the autopsy findings of brain damage in patients because brains tend to accumulate iron, are the most vascularised region in the body, and free iron in the brain is a very bad thing. There are even studies showing a correlation between iron levels of some dementia forms.

    If this is the case then would taking Vitamin C would be a big mistake? It increases iron uptake.

  220. notafan

    Of course I’ve been very supportive of the government closing down businesses.

    Very.

  221. Stimpson J. Cat

    I just went to the bike shop and they have completely sold out of everything.
    Must be a lot of people cycling at night.

    Gay Lycraclad Legshaving can strike anyone,
    at any age, at any time.
    Cycling is a Transgender Gateway Drug.
    I’ve said this before.

    Very sad.

    You hate to see it!

  222. bundyrum

    If our ancestors could see what we have allowed to happen to Australia they would be disgusted with us.
    I am with Struth.

  223. notafan

    Ooh another kick with the Kmart slippers.

    Ouch.

  224. Mitch M.

    If this is the case then would taking Vitamin C would be a big mistake? It increases iron uptake.

    I don’t know but I have a vague recollection that high C plus high Fe is a bad combination. I’ll check ….

  225. If our ancestors could see what we have allowed to happen to Australia they would be disgusted with us.

    + ∞

  226. notafan

    Now have a crack at the people discussing covid19 like it’s a real virus.

  227. Anthony

    There is only one f—— victim in this whole sad story and it is not the nameless one who complained after VicPol touted for complainants, that he was assaulted by George Pell when, now we all know, he wasn’t. Cannot get much simpler than that Ms Neville.

  228. bundyrum

    Egg, we all got the government we deserved.

  229. egg_

    The past 48 hours or so have seen a huge revelation: COVID-19 causes prolonged and progressive hypoxia (starving your body of oxygen)

    That’s the observation from the NYC Medic’s Youtube someone posted a while back.

  230. egg_

    we all got the government we deserved.

    Some are more equal than others.

  231. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    NSW Keystone Kops are raiding the Ruby Princess Pirate ship. Can this get any more ridiculous?

    did they find the murder weapon?

  232. Stimpson J. Cat

    I don’t know but I have a vague recollection that high C plus high Fe is a bad combination. I’ll check ….

    Good Luck Mitch!

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    Who can figure out the true meaning of “covfefe” ??? Enjoy!
    6:09 PM · May 31, 2017

  233. Struth

    You got it MV, take the lead, I never wanted anyway.
    I just wanted us all to discuss keyboard and non keyboard war strategy here, get ideas.
    After the swift, not a shot fired, takeover of the nation occurred, I knew the need for instant noise to be made.
    To fight back then and there.
    I again, use Notafan as an example of the general female population, and their reaction.
    Then looking around I realized Mass Hysteria, sickening to see in your own time, in your own nation, was a reality.
    You can’t fight what the people want.
    Less of them will want it after this Easter, but it’s too late.
    The whole thing about being under lawless tyrants is you don’t get to change your mind.
    They are above the rule of law, unaccountable, unreachable, and your freedoms have gone, they have the guns and they are threatening you not to resist.
    Look at the latest words from the LINO premier of Tassie.
    He’s putting up military helicopters against his people.

    Does anyone here seriously believe this is temporary?
    How do you think they walk this back, assuming they even want to?
    Just above, there are comments about the police losing respect……..as if they give a fuck.
    It’s all denialism.

    They can’t walk this back, they can’t.
    Imagine the backlash even now.
    The men, not the women mind you, but every c…nt Premier is now seen as an enemy to most men.
    They are out on their ear if democracy is ever returned.
    Palaschook is committing political suicide the second she releases us from prison.
    They’ll be lucky to not be strung up.
    So Democracy ain’t happening again.
    There will be a thousand reasons for your freedom to be denied you, all for your own good.

  234. cohenite

    Cassie, can you name a Lib that isn’t a sniveling wimp?

    Kelly. And new boy Rennick has shown a bit of ticker.

  235. Peter the old fossil

    Of course I’ve been very supportive of the government closing down businesses.

    Has the government been closing down businesses, Nota,
    Reading your posts over the past few weeks I didn’t think anything untoward was happening at all.

  236. Gilas

    Struth
    #3402499, posted on April 9, 2020 at 4:34 pm

    When, do you think, will others (sheeples, betas and doctor’s wives excluded) start to push back against the new Bolshe-Nazis?

    Your daily life will consist of chasing all basics you took for granted in only Feb 2020.
    Crime will be rampant, we are now going to be the Venezuela we knew was coming.

    And it’s what we deserve.
    Be fucked if I’m fighting this time.
    I don’t like Australia or most Australians.
    Dumbest people on earth.

    Thank you for the honest response.
    I agree with everything you wrote. There’s a level of pervasive acceptance, a [email protected], I’m all right Jack! attitude, combined with a general, profound ignorance of history that allows what we see today.
    Without much more than a whisper of concrete “concern”.

    In Italy, there’d be riots in the streets by now. Only so far prevented by the rampant panic created.
    The authorities in Europe will have to produce results soon, in order to avoid conflagrations. Will be interesting to observe.

    Here we are fed the Anglo-centric effluent excreted by the complicit MSM, combined with the “correct” expert opinions, exclusively sought, to impose the restrictions we now have.
    The supine compliance – “Oh, don’t make a foss!” – of the Australian sheeple will probably let them get away with it.

    If so, then it’s fully deserved.

  237. ryki

    Struth, I get it. But you are reading the dynamic of this all wrong.

    Yes, the Premiers are very over zealous but they all think they are reading and reacting to the public mood.

    ScoMo never wanted any of this and still doesn’t. All the politicians want to be up and about and taking their kids to sport too. They just don’t know what to do with the fact that the overwhelming majority want the police state to continue.

    All the nonsense about 6 months or more is bluster but there is a reason for it. They want the support for the lockdowns to end – that would give them political cover to relax them. Unfortunately, even with their “forever” bluster and their ridiculous zeal the turkeys are still voting for Christmas.

    Another thing to consider. The GST right now – the lifeblood of the states – would have absolutely collapsed with retail outlets all but banned. How are the states going to pay their jackbooted thugs, sorry, police when they have no money? Even Andrews understands enough about economics to realise this can’t last. Imagine being a politician and telling your police force “we won’t ever be able to pay you again and the people will never allow you to buy stuff from their shops or black markets because they will forever hate your guts, oh by the way, can you please put your lives on the line to protect us from the angry mobs please and thank you”.

    If even around 40 per cent of the population start opposing the lockdowns then the politicians (even Andrews) will quickly withdraw them. It has nothing to do with numbers of sick or dying. We know that now. The original assertion was to “flatten the curve”, well that isn’t something to worry about given that the numbers of hospitalised is around one trillionth of their expectations. But none of this changed popular support for the continuation of the lockdowns.

  238. Beertruk

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #3402537, posted on April 9, 2020 at 5:01 pm

    It was Colonel Mustard.

  239. 8th Dan

    Mick GC … I’m enjoying a well earned beer.
    James Squire Hop Thief American Pale Ale No 9

    Cheers.

  240. Farmer Gez

    COVID-19 causes prolonged and progressive hypoxia

    The damage caused by free iron in your blood may explain the curious imbalance in male/female death rates.
    Women often suffer from low blood iron after menopause and male consumption of more red meat and alcohol enhances the difference.
    The pieces seem to fit but it’s correlation again perhaps.

  241. egg_

    trolling my comments

    You’re a useful idiot to the likes of Grigs at the moment.

    To those who think we’re just bleating on a private blog, there is some evidence that Blair/Bolt/Pickering et al have lifted some stuff almost verbatim from here* – they may use it as mainly as a Conservative/mainstream Vox Pops, but there is a wider audience IMHO.

    *Even Micallef parody and likely ABC journos.

  242. Top Ender

    Q: Why are murders in Tasmania so hard to solve?

    A: Because there are no dental records and all the DNA matches.

  243. Cassie of Sydney

    “cohenite
    #3402542, posted on April 9, 2020 at 5:03 pm
    Cassie, can you name a Lib that isn’t a sniveling wimp?

    Kelly. And new boy Rennick has shown a bit of ticker.”

    Agree….I used to think Amanda Stoker has some gumption and spine…..but as she clearly showed during the Senate motion against Bettina Arndt in February…she is just another snivelling, spineless, all talk and no action parasite.

  244. notafan

    Ow ow ow

    The Kmart slippers strike again!

    Yep not a single negative comment from me about the shutdown.

    Remember kids repeating lies doesn’t turn them into trues.

  245. bundyrum

    Struth, I understand your anger, I am effin seething at these bastards.
    But I guarantee the dumb arse voters will put the same sacks of shit back in control at the next election whether state or federal.
    You can’t fix stupid.

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