Thursday Forum: April 16, 2020

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  1. Gab says:

    The chief evil is unlimited government…nobody is qualified to wield unlimited power.

    — Friedrich von Hayek

  2. NoFixedAddress says:

    Tying It All Together: China, Dr. Fauci, French Company Sanofi Pasteur, George Soros and the Gates Foundation

    On January 15th, China would only report 41 cases publicly. Based on this information, President Trump in Davos claimed that the US had the situation under control, no doubt based on what his health advisors had told him. The media now claims the President missed the significance of the situation but only a week before Trump’s statement in Davos, China had confirmed only 41 cases of the coronavirus. By January 31st, the WHO would label the China coronavirus a public health crisis. By February 2nd, China would report more than 17,000 cases.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/tying-together-china-dr-fauci-french-company-sanofi-pasteur-george-soros-gates-foundation/

  3. Rex Mango says:

    More soft rock & one of Springsteen’s best tracks, before he got carried away with himself:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0JOOEnRopM

  4. JC says:

    If Gilead has the goods, this stock is heading to $US140 billion in market cap. If it doesn’t it’s heading to 70 bucks or US$88 billion in market cap. You lose 15% of your money or make 44%. You should know the result in 30 days, but I also reckon the insiders would have a decent clue.

  5. MatrixTransform says:

    join zoom you bastards

  6. Mitch M. says:

    However, both the Chicago and NEJM results lack any information about a control arm, which many experts say is key to understanding the effectiveness of the drug — something that Wall Street analysts took pains to point out on Friday.

    But you could compare the trial patient results with results of untreated COVID patients. A control arm is preferable but there are enough patients now to compare and contrast. That should have been done in the trial.

    “This is uncontrolled, anecdotal data, which often winds up not being confirmed in controlled studies,” the firm added, referencing the controversy over hydroxychloroquine, an anti-malarial drug that’s also shown effectiveness against the coronavirus in isolated instances.

    The results there were so parlous as to be insignificant. Not a good example.

    The company originally applied for orphan drug status, but rescinded it after backlash. In addition, the drug was first reported to have positive results in China, but the company struggled to recruit participants for clinical trials there. … “Orphan” status would have meant, that under FDA guidelines, Gilead could treat this as a new find and therefore not be restricted in what it could charge. Why did they do that? Was it because they hunched it had huge prospects? In any event, they to take cover due to rapid gun fire.

    Typical Big Pharma, any excuse to make a buck in a crisis.

  7. Mark A says:

    Shyte, whoever it is, would you please stop with the needles?
    I need to sleep and can’t.

    Depriving one of sleep is the cruelest punishment, just after the bamboo sticks under the fingernails, just ask the Craw (get Smart)

  8. Cactus says:

    Guys

    zoom drink happening

    11.54pm post has zoom details. on with Matrix

  9. JC says:

    Typical Big Pharma, any excuse to make a buck in a crisis.

    Well excuse me for breathing. Making money and saving lives. How could they. Monsters.

  10. NoFixedAddress says:

    Eaten you mean by our oriental friends or exterminated Dalek style?

    Shotguns

  11. JC says:

    Mitch

    Is it a goer?

  12. NoFixedAddress says:

    Typical Big Pharma, any excuse to make a buck in a crisis.

    Mitch M

    I believe the FDA and our own fkd mob should not exist.

  13. Infidel Tiger King says:

    Keith McCullough
    @KeithMcCullough
    ·
    Apr 16
    GERMANY: Religious gatherings will remain banned. Restaurants, bars, cafes, cinemas and music venues and big events are banned until 31-Aug

    Shit. You think things are insane here…

  14. Mark A says:

    Rex Mango
    #3416597, posted on April 18, 2020 at 12:15 am

    Mark A, no fan of Ray but he does deserve a Mention in Dispatches for almost single handedly saving NSW form Mike Baird’s Greyhound Ban.

    Wasn’t aware as I don’t listen to him anymore but if he did, good for him.
    Anyone of intelligence would have opposed that stupid ban.

    Declare, I have an interest in Greyhound racing, a substantial portion of my non taxable income comes from there.

  15. Louis says:

    https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/coronavirus-uk-on-track-to-have-highest-death-rate-in-europe-expert-warns/news-story/a1e3877014fc12d439e47ceb8c842d0a

    Anybody else notice this outright China propaganda on news com au?

    Apparently the Anglo world is over and every will be so impressed with China that China will lead the world voluntarily.

    And the completely bogus numbers the author gives. Apparently there are hundreds of thousands of ‘uncounted’ COVID deaths in in countries. While the author references a UK public health expert who seems to be in denial of reality but also seems to conflate confirmed cases with deaths.

  16. JC says:

    Bolsonaro, sounds like a Portuguese speaking Trump on a triple dose of steroids. Seriously, he makes Trump sound like wimp.

    Jair Bolsonaro is leading Brazilians “to the slaughterhouse” with his criminally irresponsible handling of coronavirus, the country’s former president Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva has said.

    In an impassioned interview with the Guardian – which came as Brazil’s Covid-19 death toll hit 1,924 – Lula said that by undermining social distancing and defenestrating his own health minister, Brazil’s “troglodyte” leader risked repeating the devastating scenes playing out in Ecuador where families have had to dump their loved ones’ corpses in the streets.

    “Unfortunately I fear Brazil is going to suffer a great deal because of Bolsonaro’s recklessness … I fear that if this grows Brazil could see some cases like those horrific, monstrous images we saw in Guayaquil,” said the 74-year-old leftist.
    Bolsonaro fires popular health minister after dispute over coronavirus response

    “We can’t just want to topple a president because we don’t like him,” Lula admitted. “[But] if Bolsonaro continues to commit crimes of responsibility … [and] trying to lead society to the slaughterhouse – which is what he is doing – I think the institutions will need to find a way of sorting Bolsonaro out. And that will mean you’ll need to have an impeachment.”

    Bolsonaro – a proudly homophobic former army captain already despised by progressive Brazilians for his hostility to the environment, indigenous rights and the arts, as well as his alleged links to Rio’s mafia – has alienated millions more with his dismissive stance towards the coronavirus, which he belittles as media “hysteria” and a “bit of a cold”.

    Since the World Health Organization declared the pandemic on 11 March, Brazil’s president has repeatedly thumbed his nose at social distancing, first by egging on and attending pro-Bolsonaro protests and then with a series of provocative visits to bakeries, supermarkets and pharmacies. During one unnecessary outing Bolsonaro declared: “No one will hinder my right to come and go.”

    In March the rightwing populist even suggested Brazilians need not worry about Covid-19 since they could bathe in excrement “and nothing happens”.

    Such moves put Bolsonaro at loggerheads with his own health minister, Luiz Henrique Mandetta, a doctor-turned-politician who was fired on Thursday after challenging the president’s behaviour.

    Meanwhile Bolsonaro’s politician son, Eduardo, has taken the wrecking ball to ties with Brazil’s most important trade partner, China, by accusing its Communist party leaders of being to blame for the coronavirus crisis.

    Bolsonaro’s actions have sparked nightly pot-banging protests in cities up and down the country and drawn scorn from across the political spectrum.

    “Coronavirus must be laughing its head off,” Eliane Cantanhêde, a columnist for the conservative Estado de São Paulo newspaper, wrote of Bolsonaro’s antics this week.

    More here: I know, it’s the Guardian, so just read the funny bits.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/17/lula-bolsonaro-brazil-to-slaughterhouse-covid-19-coronavirus

    Just remember, Lulu was in jail for corruption charges.

  17. Rex Mango says:

    Mark A, don’t listen to him, but he waged non-stop campaign that overturned dumbest state government decision ever. This proved his power greater than NSW Premier.

  18. JC says:

    I just bought a 1/2 position is Gilead. 12 buck downside is not going to cause limb loss. Wish me luck.

  19. Rex Mango says:

    Louis, don’t worry. As gradually everyone becomes aware that the virus was produced by a laboratory in Wuhan and accidentally released, hence the western world will be able to walk away from debts they owe to the Chinese.

  20. Overburdened says:

    https://youtu.be/yKzzquZ9I-E

    Rex Mango

    Impaired by using an iPad for logistical reasons.

    The Bamboos Avenger

  21. BrettW says:

    For any Courier Mail online readers a great article by Des Houghton about Qld civil service should take pay cuts.

    Also has a poll about pay. Currently 52% for pay cut, 26% pay freeze, 18% pay rise and others unsure.

  22. Mark A says:

    Louis
    #3416612, posted on April 18, 2020 at 12:29 am

    And the completely bogus numbers the author gives. Apparently there are hundreds of thousands of ‘uncounted’ COVID deaths in in countries. While the author references a UK public health expert who seems to be in denial of reality but also seems to conflate confirmed cases with deaths.

    I have a residence in Europe, in a sizable town, caught up in OZ at the mo but keeping up with the happenings over there, so far no detected cases and they take it very very seriously.

    Organised volunteer groups doing shopping and stuff for the over 60s.
    Dutch friend and neighbor there is happy to be there instead of in Holland.

  23. JC says:

    Another huge stock bet. Chubb and other business insurers (like Chubb) sold insurance to companies covering for business interruption. Sounds good right, until you get to the fine print in the policies. Chubb and other firms DO NOT cover for pandemics. The stock is down 30%.

    Some of these policy holders are going to court… watch Cramer’s interview with Chubb CEO. He reckons its unconstitutional whatever.

    If Chubb looks like winning, the stock is going up massively, but you always have to be careful with lawfare.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=64&v=16pWsccOxw0&feature=emb_logo

  24. NoFixedAddress says:

    JC
    #3416617, posted on April 18, 2020 at 12:39 am

    I just bought a 1/2 position is Gilead. 12 buck downside is not going to cause limb loss. Wish me luck.

    go for it JC and good luck.

    Presumably you are doing it but make sure you are keeping tabs on all the players.

  25. Infidel Tiger King says:

    First thing we checked was our business insurance.

    They all had clauses related to pandemics.

    Bastards.

  26. NFA:

    Eaten you mean by our oriental friends or exterminated Dalek style?

    Shotguns

    20 litres of petrol splashed around the base of the tree.
    Wait 2 minutes for fumes to drift into tree.
    Ignite fumes.
    Watch decorative bat candles zoom in all directions.

  27. JC says:

    Infidel Tiger King
    #3416625, posted on April 18, 2020 at 12:59 am

    First thing we checked was our business insurance.

    They all had clauses related to pandemics.

    Listen to Greenberg’s interview, it’s very funny in a cynical sort of way. He’s so in concern trolling mode. “Stay safe”.

    There maybe a case here, as the argument would be that the pandemic didn’t directly cause the interruption. In other words, you didn’t have masses of employees and clients die on you or get sick. The government closed you down. That’s the only escape there is, unless the fine print doesn’t specify, in which case the courts would herd up with the plaintiffs.

  28. EvilElvis says:

    Christ’s sake.

    Just caught up again and bed time. What a thread.

    H/t Rex, Moonlight Shadow, noice.

  29. NoFixedAddress says:

    20 litres of petrol splashed around the base of the tree.
    Wait 2 minutes for fumes to drift into tree.
    Ignite fumes.
    Watch decorative bat candles zoom in all directions.

    roflol

    but according to our health Morlocs we are not allowed to have pyric sky displays in Australia though it would be interesting.

    However I’d be concerned that it could end up being a Pyrrhic victory given the wilderness overgrowrh in most urban settings.

    Instead of shotguns i’d actually prefer punt guns suitably attached to vehicles allowing for discrete retirement from the area.

    https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/punt-gun-1910-1920/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punt_gun

  30. Rex Mango says:

    Don’t know why this song always gets interpreted this way, but not complaining:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svew54WHcU4

  31. NoFixedAddress says:

    This is now mandatory teaching

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HGF4knhTg0

  32. Rex Mango says:

    For those Mike Oldfield fans out there, here we go a song not written by Henry VIII:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4rvcZMY37I

  33. EvilElvis says:

    For those Mike Oldfield fans out there, here we go a song not written by Henry VIII:

    Suddenly have the urge for a Mr Whippy…

  34. Howard Hill says:

    Chinese Coronavirus Is a Man Made Virus According to Luc Montagnier the Man Who Discovered HIV

    On a more pleasant note:

    Rex Mango
    #3416631, posted on April 18, 2020 at 1:21 am

    I’d crawl across broken glass just to sniff its …..

  35. JC says:

    Just get a load of this and read the caption to the pic. Note the names.

    Esmerelda Farquharson-Selby practises ballet and mum Heidi does pilates as dad Jim works on his guitar playing and brother Hamish enjoys screen time

  36. Struth says:

    Facebook types are generally sick in da head.

    This inane virtue signalling “We’re just so happy no matter what” bullshit is pure insanity.

    It’s feminine traits unleashed and unchallenged.
    Socially competitive bullshit, it’s very dangerous if not countered.
    Women’s influence on men is civilising and a good thing.
    Men should tame the worst excesses of the female mind and we haven’t done so.

    Ying and yang and all that.

    The insanity has been hard to watch , especially over the last few weeks.
    Mrs Struth comes in and says look what so and so just posted of themselves.

    People doing mad sock Mondays with the entire family, locked in their homes.
    Reversing their clothes and dancing infront of the camera like retards.

    The people that are the worst, are the men.
    These brain dead, weak fathers.
    What does it show the children.
    Dad’s fine with being imprisoned, he’s doing what he is told, happily having his, and his entire family’s freedom forcefully removed from them.
    A fine thing for a man to instill in his kids.

    I have no problem with it if it was voluntary.
    It is not.
    And these so called men have a responsibility to united and organize with other men to rise against this.
    Not dancing around the lounge room like a retard with their shirts on back to front and posting their insanity for the world to see.

    Facebook is full of the mental sickness of the inadequate.

    The special interest/club pages are worthy of it, but most of it is insanity advertised.

    I can’t see the Anzac day Missive being picked up there and shared by the thousands.
    Too scared of having people seeing them as responsible adults, and not insanely happy contented people with beautiful friends and fun lives.

  37. Howard Hill says:

    Facebook types are generally sick in da head.

    You could have stopped there, Struth. That’s all that needed to be said. Same goes for Twitter tards, no brain needed for either.

  38. Tom says:

    Peter Broelman has Dutton Derangement.

  39. Tom says:

    Same boring old TDS from David Rowe.

  40. Tom says:

    Bob Moran (London Daily Telegraph).

  41. Tom says:

    Ingram Pinn (London Financial Times).

  42. Struth says:

    Where are your Local reps?

    If anyone needs a tracking device forced on them it’s these arseholes, so we can track them down.

    Hear the language from Sco Mo, the man I said would be worse for Australia than Turnbull because he is a better bullshit artist and appears as just a suburban dad doing all he can , just for us…of course.
    Hear his language………….”we will give Australians the chance to do the right thing” but if they don’t we will make it compulsory, (but if they don’t we will force it down their feeble fucking throats, being the arsewipes they are)

    These criminals calling on people to do the right thing, the right thing.

    Is this the right thing according to President Xi the Pooh, or in the eyes of god?

    These pseudo christian happy clappers are usually not the brightest in the room, and there is usually to be found in men that attend these fairly unchristian virtue signalling “churches”, the same character flaws as the facebook males above described.
    Virtue signallers and socially competitive trashboys who’s wives call the shots.

  43. Tom says:

    Christian Adams (London Evening Standard).

  44. Tom says:

    Dave Brown (London Independent).

  45. Howard Hill says:

    All that just to say brain dead cucks?
    I admire your tenacity, Struth, but I feel your expending a lot of energy for nil result.
    It’s over dude. the cucks/left have won. You cannot beat them, their numbers are just tooooo great, like trying to wipe out an ant nest with a magnifying glass when the suns not out.

    Australia. A dead people about to be run over by history.

  46. Struth says:

    Sorry Tom.

    I’ve broken an unwritten rule.

    I’ve been a baaaaaaad boy.

  47. Struth says:

    I admire your tenacity, Struth, but I feel your expending a lot of energy for nil result.
    It’s over dude. the cucks/left have won. You cannot beat them, their numbers are just tooooo great, like trying to wipe out an ant nest with a magnifying glass when the suns not out.

    Australia. A dead people about to be run over by history.

    It now is the ultimate question, and I admit you may well be right.
    But I’m not sure, hence the amount of comments I make here.
    I don’t know where you live Howard Hill, but I am in regional Queensland, and I’ve been talking to a lot of people, and my inlaws have a business all the town comes to and from surrounding towns, and Mrs Struth and I get to talk to a lot of them as well.

    People are fuming, generally.

    The amount of people still fearing for their lives with masks on are in the percentage of the Greens voters of the area.
    About 5% of the population at best.

    Some young blokes declared they are out and about and doing what they want, “fuck ’em” was their take on it.
    They’re going fishing, and visiting each other and will not be stopped.

    A bloke I know just bought two trucks for work he had from customers the government closed down.
    Fuming is an understatement.
    The women are now turning, slowly, as the kids either in or out of school mayhem hits, and people start to realise just how poor they are going to be.

    But Australians are different, as I’ve known all along in the way the deal with these things, and to be honest very different to the way yanks respond to this shit, and it could end up the most amusing, entertaining way of dealing with fucktard totalitarians the world will see.

    They’ve just got to be stirred up a bit.

  48. Struth says:

    You can tell an Australian to go home to save lives, and they believe it’s the right thing to do, they’ll do it,but let’s watch what happens when Sco Mo tries to force tracking on to them.
    We aren’t in it all together then.
    I’ll just peer into my crystallized B a l l s ……………..

    I see that unlike the USA, where they’d protest and stand up for their rights, the authorities trying to force shit on Australians when they don’t want it, results in the authorities trying to herd cats, which can be quite entertaining to watch.

  49. Howard Hill says:

    It’s no different where I am, Struth; south eastern suburbs of Dannograd.
    I deal with people all over the country and have many friends in your neck of the woods, mostly between Townsville and Cairns and converse with them all weekly. They’re all the same. Pissed off and something needs to change. But guess what? They all agree on one thing. The government needs to do something. Not one will step out of their comfort zone for fear of breaking a rule. We’re fucked dude. Just waiting for the fat lady to sing.

  50. Fair Shake says:

    The Australian

    Pell appeal judge: ‘I’m no criminal lawyer‘

    No kidding?

  51. 1735099 says:

    I have no problem with it if it was voluntary.
    It is not.

    Total bullshit.
    50+ years of teaching taught me that you cannot make any child do something he/she doesn’t want to do.
    Adults are the same.
    It’s about understanding consequences and making choices.
    That’s why people are obeying the lockdowns and why the streets are largely empty.
    That’s why businesses are shut down all over the country.
    You can throw as many tantrums as you like.
    Nobody’s listening.

  52. 1735099 says:

    I see that unlike the USA, where they’d protest and stand up for their rights,

    There is precious little of that happening across the pacific.
    Perhaps it has something to do with the mortality rate.
    And Fatty 5D* keeps telling everyone that he has saved hundreds of thousands of lives.

    *Trump has a weight problem, and was deferred from service in Vietnam 5 times.

  53. Leigh Lowe says:

    KD at 10:40 last night on the fall of Western Bulldogs Lachi Hunter …

    ‘He abandoned his Toyota SUV, which was found to contain his ­official club gear and a partly drunk bottle of rose.’

    Ted Whitten and Charlie Sutton would be turning in their graves.
    Sign up for the car crash, breaking Kung Flu curfew, leaving the scene, whatever.
    But never, ever plead guilty to being in possession of a bottle of rose.

  54. Leigh Lowe says:

    Shocking news!
    One of the houso kids I helped yesterday is in hospital.
    Apparently he got into my gift hamper and ate the scented candle and some bath salts.

  55. calli says:

    Hahahah!

    When your bloated parliamentary salary just ain’t enough:

    LABOR SENATOR RENTED OUT BEACHSIDE AIRBNB IN LOCKDOWN
    Federal Labor senator Deborah O’Neill had paying guests staying in her oceanfront Airbnb lisiting during the strict coronavirus lockdown period. It comes after NSW Arts Minister Don Harwin resigned after breaching the lockdown rules.

    All behind the paywall, natch.

    Bye, bye Deb.

  56. calli says:

    Funny dat. I have a friend who runs a B&B. She got a visit from plod to warn her not to open over Easter or UFN.

    She complied. It’s her only source of income.

    “Rules” for some but not others.

  57. Bear Necessities says:

    The only thing worse than Rose is Riesling. Riesling looks like cat urine.

  58. Leigh Lowe says:

    areff

    #3416514, posted on April 17, 2020 at 11:13 pm

    Lachie Hunter is being victimised because he’s a son of the mighty West.

    Rose is a bit of a worry though

    A bit of a worry?
    Understatement.
    Old joke.

    “Police found a body of a man floating in the Yarra last night.
    The man was wearing make-up and a ladies wig, high heeled shoes, fishnet stockings, lingerie and a Footscray jumper and had a dildo inserted in his arse.
    Police removed the Footscray jumper to spare the man’s family any embarassment.”

  59. Leigh Lowe says:

    LABOR SENATOR RENTED OUT BEACHSIDE AIRBNB IN LOCKDOWN
    Federal Labor senator Deborah O’Neill

    Is she the one who went on a very mouthy “do you know who I am?” rant a few years ago?

  60. Cardimona says:

    Cats, the Gold Coast paper printed yesterday’s submission in full, but the Townsville paper printed a slightly cropped version.
    Here it is again to save scrolling…

    The Editor

    Queuing at Centrelink is OK, but walking on the beach is not. Passing people in shop aisles is OK, but going camping is not. Pilots landing flights from overseas and wandering off into our major cities is OK, but rural people are questioned by police as to why we’re out.

    Why don’t these rules make sense? Because they’re not supposed to make sense. The purpose is unquestioned obedience to authority even in situations where it makes no sense. We feel compelled to obey because of fears for our personal safety – even while our hospitals stand empty. This is psychic degradation; the communists remain “expert” at it.

    So where’s the fear come from? A protracted campaign from the entire media and a huge number of politicians, all driven by unknown “experts” and their “computer modelling”. Every pumped-up power-mad bureaucrat has leapt onto the bandwagon to bask in their moment of glory. Even our police feel charged-up and empowered to “save us from ourselves”.

    But what about the reality of the Chinese disease? As of Friday morning we’ve had 63 deaths, a third of them from one cruise ship and many others originating overseas, three months after C19 was thought to have first arrived here. The ABS says Australia had 1255 flu deaths in 2017, which averages 314 per three months.

    The problem is not the disease – it is the concerted campaign to destroy Western economies for no good medical reason. This is climate alarmism on super-steroids. Controlling the virus isn’t the objective, control is the objective. Are our elected reps oblivious to this? Or not? It would be worth asking them – if you can find them.

  61. calli says:

    No, Leigh. That was Belinda Neal. Iguana Joes.

    Good times.

  62. Tintarella di Luna says:

    Is she the one who went on a very mouthy “do you know who I am?” rant a few years ago?

    No that was Belinda Neal ex-Senator and wife of Tom-fooleried ex- NSW Labor powerhouse John Della Bosca. – but just the names change when it comes to Labor’s Layyyyydies

  63. Tintarella di Luna says:

    Snap calli

  64. Tintarella di Luna says:

    Cardimona
    #3416691, posted on April 18, 2020 at 7:04 am
    Cats, the Gold Coast paper printed yesterday’s submission in full,

    . Well done Cardimona and thank you

  65. Leigh Lowe says:

    calli

    #3416692, posted on April 18, 2020 at 7:05 am

    No, Leigh. That was Belinda Neal. Iguana Joes.

    Good times.

    Sorry.
    So many mouthy labor laydeez it is hard to keep up.

  66. Tintarella di Luna says:

    Well, well, well what a surprise – he of the gimlet eye looking for filthy lucre:Cash for coronavirus:

    ABC ‘guru’ Norman Swan after money to turn spin doctor
    EXCLUSIVE
    BRAD NORINGTON
    ASSOCIATE EDITOR
    @BradNorington

    49 MINUTES AGO APRIL 18, 2020
    237 COMMENTS
    A company co-founded by prominent ABC health broadcaster ­Norman Swan, the No 1 public critic of Scott Morrison’s coronavirus strategy, was bidding to win the contract for a government-funded media campaign to educate GPs across the country on COVID-19.

    Dr Swan is executive director and co-founder of Tonic Health Media, a private company that unsuccessfully pitched last month for work funded by the federal government to produce educational videos about coronavirus for GPs.

    He is best known as host of ABC Radio National’s The Health Report and has appeared frequently on flagship ABC TV programs recently as the face of the national broadcaster’s COVID-19 coverage.

    When the infection rate was climbing last month, Dr Swan took to social media with predictions that a doubling of reported cases every three days would see numbers rise from 1700 to 7000 or 8000 in a week — with the true number possibly 80,000.

    Highly critical of the Morrison government for not treating the crisis seriously enough, or acting with haste, he tweeted: “Primary school maths. Someone should go figure. No magic fairy will bring that down. 14-20 days behind Italy. Believe in maths not magic.”

    In another tweet, Dr Swan said: “Bring the public with you. Young people as well as the elderly will die unnecessarily if we don’t act. Today’s cases are the result of what we didn’t do two weeks ago.”

    Extra tidbits elsewhere in the Oz READ MORE:Dr Swan’s dire predictions flop|ABC news chief denies row with PM’s office over Swan|Sorry Ita, Dr Swan isn’t everyone’s ‘treasure’|Medical dispute flares over lockdowns|Swan’s Tonic: a bit on the side

    Amid signs Australia’s efforts to stop the spread of COVID-19 could now be working compared with those of other nations, the latest number of confirmed cases ­almost a month later is 6487, with 63 deaths and 3783 recorded as having recovered.

    Dr Swan confirmed that Tonic had sought the government contract to educate GPs on corona­virus “a few weeks ago” during discussions with Universal McCann, the media booking agency that negotiates contracts on the government’s behalf for public ­information and advertising campaigns. But he said he did not know that Tonic was unsuccessful in winning the work until contacted by The Weekend Australian, and then checking with Tonic’s sales manager.

    Dr Swan, a medical doctor who switched to health journalism 30 years ago, said he had been “upfront” with ABC management about his commercial role with Tonic, and specifically its interest in COVID-19-related productions for the government. He had “promised” there would be no conflict with his on-air work for the public broadcaster, he said.

    Dr Swan said Tonic had a long commercial relationship with the federal Health Department, producing educational material in areas such as pregnancy and immunisation for influenza, and cervical cancer.

    Although Tonic was rebuffed on the contract to supply education videos for GPs, Dr Swan said the company did secure some other government-funded coronavirus work “a few weeks ago”.

    He said Tonic’s small part in this work, which all major media organisations had been contracted to provide through Universal McCann, involved airing COVID-19 public information videos on the company’s TV network screens in doctors’ waiting rooms.

    As a fierce critic of Morrison government measures to combat coronavirus, Dr Swan argued last month that Canberra should have moved faster and harder in imposing social-distancing and isolation rules.

    He urged much a stricter “shutdown”, including the closure of schools, and advocated much more testing to help determine how far the virus had spread into the community. His comments have irritated senior government ministers, especially given Dr Swan’s strong ABC following, and he has been attacked by some commentators.

    Dr Swan appears to have toned down his criticism more recently with signs that attempts to “flatten the curve” of the virus spread could be working. He said he knew he was “not popular” with the government. He was also not popular with colleagues at Tonic Health, he said, because his outspoken views, often at odds with government policy, could affect the company’s ability to win further contracts.

    “The last thing that is going to happen any time soon is a contract with the commonwealth,” he said.

    Other principals at Tonic include its chairman, Paul Robinson, who also chairs St Vincent’s Health Australia; managing director Matthew Cullen, a member of the government’s Aged Care Quality Advisory Council and consultant psychiatrist at Sydney’s St Vincent’s Hospital; and board member Peter Joseph, who chairs the Black Dog Institute, the St James Ethics Centre and the University of NSW’s Health-Science Alliance.

    Dr Swan said the ABC was aware of his role at Tonic and the company’s interest in seeking government contracts related to COVID-19, saying he had been “transparent” with the national broadcaster. The ABC was aware Tonic was on the Universal McCann “plan” for contracted work.

    “There’s always a tension involved because basically (Tonic) is a health television channel … which is why you’d be mad not to be upfront with the ABC about it.

    “They know about it and the promise I’ve made to the ABC is that there will be no conflict in anything I’m doing on air, and what the health television channel is doing … there’s a long history of the company dealing with the commonwealth on education campaigns.”

    Dr Swan said he understood from the company’s sales manager that Tonic did not win the GP education video contract because “the timing was wrong”. He was not involved in procuring the work for Tonic, he said, and while he was the company’s co-founder, he was now “regrettably” a minority shareholder with a less than 5 per cent stake after various capital raisings.

    He did not draw a salary from Tonic, he said, but did sit on the board with the title executive director. Any paid work at Tonic he received related to his role as “executive producer” supervising video content to ensure it was clinically correct.

    As well as running his own ABC radio program, Dr Swan appears regularly on the Drum, occasionally hosts Radio National Breakfast and is a guest reporter on Four Corners. He was previously involved with an ABC TV program that ran on News 24 called Tonic — the same as his company’s name — that was produced by a company, GSB Consulting and Communications, with Dr Swan as managing director.

    An ABC spokesman told The Weekend Australian that Dr Swan’s involvement with Tonic was governed by the terms of his contract with the ABC and its editorial policies: “Norman is a highly experienced ABC journalist and health professional who offers informed insights and analysis as part of the ABC’s coverage of COVID-19, and is highly regarded and respected for his commitment to independence and integrity.”

  67. Leigh Lowe says:

    Infidel Tiger King

    #3416528, posted on April 17, 2020 at 11:23 pm

    I love rosè.

    There. I said it.

    Sinc, can you monitor ITK’s account.
    Pretty sure he has been hacked.

  68. Leigh Lowe says:

    Rosè.
    It is the Kate McGregor of wines.
    It is a red transitioning to be a white.
    Essential bits missing.

  69. calli says:

    the No 1 public critic of Scott Morrison’s coronavirus strategy,

    No conflict of interest there, is there Ita?

    He missed out on a lucrative government contract, and we are now paying him to criticise the government.

    For all the genuine failings of the Morrison strategy, this just isn’t good enough.

  70. miltonf says:

    I read many years ago that ‘politics attracts revolting people’. This attraction would be money and power particularly possibility of putting a bit of stick about. The Australian and US constitutions envisaged politicians, that is, elected representatives coming from the community. Of the people, for the people, by the people. The more I read about the US constitution, I see how the authors were mindful of the dangers of the money n power types.

  71. Atoms for Peace says:

    Moving forward, how do we consumers stick it to China ?. As a household, we are already taking steps to avoid where at all possible products made in China. The process won’t happen overnight, but our next step will be to write to major companies in Australian and ask them if they have plans to disengage from Chinese suppliers. Little steps etc…..Grassroots campaign and quietly spread the word.

  72. calli says:

    And the jackals are circling the first of the wounded.

    Our government needs to act quickly to protect us from these opportunistic sh*ts. They are responsible for our woes and now hope to capitalise on the weakness they caused.

  73. rickw says:

    First thing we checked was our business insurance.

    They all had clauses related to pandemics.

    Bastards.

    What about a Government Induced Clusterfuck? If you didn’t have any staff die or get sick could you argue that the impact is not from the pandemic but from the ensuing Government Clusterfuck?

  74. rickw says:

    Moving forward, how do we consumers stick it to China ?. As a household, we are already taking steps to avoid where at all possible products made in China.

    I think the options for not made in China have already increased dramatically thanks to their production slowdown since January. The Chinese Shop near me sells Australian made plastic tubs, clearly they ran out of Chicom stock and had to source an alternate local supplier.

    If we can keep sticking it to them then it gets easier to keep sticking it to them.

  75. Mater says:

    Total bullshit.
    50+ years of teaching taught me that you cannot make any child do something he/she doesn’t want to do.
    Adults are the same.

    Except deploy to Vietnam?

  76. Dr Faustus says:

    And the jackals are circling the first of the wounded.

    Nice juxtaposition with Atoms’ post.
    Post apocalypse, Ozzie Pooh Air would be a certain crowd favourite.

  77. custard says:

    Morning Cats!

    Back to work Monday for me.

    I wonder if there will be any customers to talk to….

  78. Twostix says:

    That’s why people are obeying the lockdowns and why the streets are largely empty.

    The fuck are you talking about?

    The shops are packed, my street and suburb are busier than ever.

    You’re such a senile old crank. Little hitler too. What a nightmare any school you ran must have been.

    And now your “profession” replaced within five days by the TV and e-learning!

    😂

  79. Bushkid says:

    Struth
    #3416675, posted on April 18, 2020 at 4:39 am

    I don’t know where you live Howard Hill, but I am in regional Queensland,

    G’day Struth, I’m also in regional Queensland, Capricornia region. Just wondering if you’re anywhere near here.

    I’m self employed in a business that is continuing to limp along but will only do so as long as people still have a little bit of money to spend, and don’t become too scared to spend even that bit. I don’t think anyone who’s driving this shit show has the faintest idea what they’ve done.

  80. Mater says:

    Total bullshit.
    50+ years of teaching taught me that you cannot make any child do something he/she doesn’t want to do.
    Adults are the same.

    Too good not to include:

    1735099
    #3404383, posted on April 10, 2020 at 5:06 pm

    Even if I hadn’t been deployed I’d still be chasing the income I lost.
    As Mater so helpfully pointed out, the government forced me (and 53000 others) out of a job through national service.

  81. Dr Faustus says:

    In A Mistake Anyone Could Make news:

    Nearly 1,300 people who died of the coronavirus in the Chinese city of Wuhan were not counted in death tolls because of lapses, Chinese state media says.

    But Beijing dismissed claims that there had been any kind of cover-up.

    You might think it’s easy, telling whether someone’s dead…

  82. Leigh Lowe says:

    Infidel Tiger King

    #3416528, posted on April 17, 2020 at 11:23 pm

    I love rosè.

    There. I said it.

    I cannot believe we sat here and listened to this guy criticising others for wearing ironed jeans and tasseled loafers.
    Probably drinking rosè all the while.
    It makes me sick to my stomach.

  83. struth

    Sam Vankin: The true toxicity of social media revealed

    https://youtu.be/dmXcjvL9VSc

  84. Megan says:

    Mater…doing the Lord’s work on the Cat junkie seagull lying in the gutter amidst his contradictory word vomit for the day. Well done!

  85. Leigh Lowe says:

    You might think it’s easy, telling whether someone’s dead…

    You’ve never worked in the Victorian Public Service, have you?

  86. lotocoti says:

    Total bullshit.
    50+ years of teaching taught me that you cannot make any child do something he/she doesn’t want to do.

    Forty odd years ago there were a couple of LS PTIs who found it super easy.
    Barely an inconvenience.

  87. Entropy says:

    I cannot believe we sat here and listened to this guy criticising others for wearing ironed jeans and tasseled loafers.
    Probably drinking rosè all the while.
    It makes me sick to my stomach.

    After consulting Mrs Entropy on the matter, she explained she just cannot respect a man who actually chooses Rosè.

  88. calli says:

    You might think it’s easy, telling whether someone’s dead…

    Amazing what you find when an angle grinder is taken to a welded up door.

  89. Mater says:

    The fuck are you talking about?
    The shops are packed, my street and suburb are busier than ever.

    Around here, also. Town is as busy as I’ve ever seen it, outside of school drop off and pick up times.

    Struth wants to know why Australians aren’t going spare. It’s easy. Very few are obeying the rules, in practice. Less are everyday. They see the numbers and are increasingly sceptical.

    Sure there is a facade, and the businesses have to comply with what can be checked, but other than ‘social distancing’ and lot are doing what they believe they can get away with. Buy a days worth of groceries so you can go back again tomorrow and have another coffee, have your story (lie) fully rehearsed before leaving home, etc. Everyone IS avoiding the police like the plague.

    Gatherings are happening, but more surreptitiously than before. Most people think the rules are bizarre and inconsistent and are treating them with the contempt they deserve.

    Why no backlash? Well, a pressure cooker takes a long time to cook when the lid it not fitted properly. The incredibly hostile reaction to the tracking app (check FB comments to relevant articles) shows what will happen when/if the lid starts getting properly screwed down into place.

    Rules being broken everywhere…but the spread is still not happening.

  90. Struth says:

    50+ years of teaching taught me that you cannot make any child do something he/she doesn’t want to do.
    Adults are the same.

    That’s because they don’t respect you.

    Live by your own proclaimed submissive obedience and do what you are told for once.
    Fuck off.

  91. Entropy says:

    I don’t understand how public servants working for the ABC, because that what they really are, are not on APS pay scales, and have the same outside work restrictions on them as any other public servant. It is straight out conflict of interest.

  92. jo says:

    Rose’ is like the lgbtxyz brigade, not really one thing or the other.

  93. Mother Lode says:

    Rosè.
    It is the Kate McGregor of wines.

    Actually it can be quite pleasant on warm afternoons. It is generally quite light and not sweet.

    Not over enamoured by the ones based on Pinot Noir grapes, but ones based on Shiraz can be nice.

    There is a lot of crap out there because it is easy to make, is as I say light, and some people think it classy.

    But there are good ones too. I had one recently by a winery called Tournon. Very nice.

  94. calli says:

    Just watching the Mayor of Burnie not answering questions on how the big local cluster happened. Lightweight Seven presenter seems incapable of getting a straight answer from this fellow.

    Any other news about how this happened, including the unheard of response in closing two hospitals?

    Be careful not to throw blame, sez he. So I can only assume extremely slack activities and lapses by “health workers” in the region.

  95. Mother Lode says:

    Which, despite the name, was made in Australia.

  96. lotocoti says:

    I cannot believe we sat here and listened to this guy …

    I’ve always half suspected he’s actually a “nail technician” who’s been on the DSP for the last fifteen years with a bad back.

  97. jo says:

    Live by your own proclaimed submissive obedience and do what you are told for once.
    Fuck off.

    Go to SVN and peel spuds, spud cos you were to stupid to get out of it.

  98. Boambee John says:

    And Fatty 5D* keeps telling everyone that he has saved hundreds of thousands of lives.

    *Trump has a weight problem, and was deferred from service in Vietnam 5 times.

    Perseveration relapse.

    Sad!

  99. custard says:

    Trumpster is speaking at the podium.

  100. calli says:

    Mater at 8:16

    Exactly. This is what I’m observing too in my extremely easy-going neck of the woods.

  101. Twostix says:

    The funniest thing happened.

    A month ago all the kids got sent home and parents were told to educate them (something hitherto we were scolded would ruin our children’s lives forever – but let us keep that for later).

    Two week in the older boys complain they dont work this hard at school.

    Okay children, nice try.

    After a month of “planning” the Education department sends home a letter explaining what to do this term.

    Their orders…

    – TV, worksheets and online learning.
    – Set them no more than 2-3 hours of this academic work a day

    Ahahahahah.

    We’re seeing things are worse than we ever imagined.

  102. Struth says:

    Cardimona, great work, I’ll put one to the paper around here, I’ve just been avoiding it as locally for my business I needed to appear Neutral in the past.
    Those days are long gone now as I shocked everyone on facebook, a page I never looked at but used my business page instead.
    We also have a community facebook page I am told, so I am going to use that, many look at that, but closer to the 25th.

    Sco Mo and his insulated Medical Bureaucrat overlords keep talking about forced tracking and that should help.

  103. Megan says:

     

    And Fatty 5D* keeps telling everyone that he has saved hundreds of thousands of lives

    Isn’t that exactly what our very own CMOs and pollies are saying? The ones you demand our unquestioning obedience to?

  104. Farmer Gez says:

    Sowing is under way at our farm.
    Vetch for hay first, faba beans, followed by canola, then the cereals and finally lentils.
    Bloody mice are everywhere and we’ll have to bait most paddocks you keep them down to a dull roar.
    Grain treated with Zinc Phosphide is the bait, one grain can kill a mouse. It’s toxic shit and you have to be very careful not to breathe in the fumes when using it for ground baiting.

    We’re making very good money on grain in hand with lentils now at $900 a tonne as India and Bangladesh panic buy food rations for the poor. That’s about a 50% lift on a couple of months ago.

  105. calli says:

    50+ years of teaching taught me that you cannot make any child do something he/she doesn’t want to do.

    Really? My best friend was coerced, as a child, into a sexual relationship with her stepfather.

    She must have secretly wanted to do it.

  106. Leigh Lowe says:

    calli

    #3416746, posted on April 18, 2020 at 8:25 am

    Mater at 8:16

    Exactly. This is what I’m observing too in my extremely easy-going neck of the woods.

    Ditto.
    The main topic of conversation in the street is that we have had a handful of cases in town (all returned cruisers) and no new ones for weeks.
    Easter was very quiet (particularly Sunday and Monday) but now starting to pick up.
    You can only cry “wolf!” so many times.

  107. Megan says:

    The foot and road traffic around our way yesterday told me people may say they are working from home but they are certainly not staying at home.

  108. calli says:

    We’re seeing things are worse than we ever imagined.

    How are you getting on with the homeschooling, ‘Stix?

    Are the children enjoying it, or are they anxious to get back to school and friends?

  109. Leigh Lowe says:

    Their orders…

    – TV, worksheets and online learning.
    – Set them no more than 2-3 hours of this academic work a day

    What if … shock, horror … Naplan results actually improve next year?

  110. calli says:

    They scrapped Naplan this year. Now we know why. 😀

  111. Struth says:

    Just south of you Bushkid.

  112. Struth says:

    Trumpster is speaking at the podium.

    Link please.

  113. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “The thought of you teaching my child fills me with dread.”

    Yes however now the pervert uses google to spy on children playing on beaches.

  114. Mater says:

    and you cheer it on because of your sick wife.

    Don’t mistake Bob’s motives. He cheers it on because he thinks it is the vehicle to destroy capitalism. His version of October 1917.

    1735099
    #3382312, posted on March 29, 2020 at 11:24 am

    There’s a stark similarity between the asteroid that wiped out the dinosaurs and the Corona virus.
    It will be fascinating to watch which of the dinosaurs that underpin global Capitalism remain when it’s done.

    1735099
    #3404303, posted on April 10, 2020 at 3:41 pm

    The Right are the people in shock.
    Although I’d describe it as remarkable rather than delicious.

    They never “remotely contemplated” the nationalisation of the Australian economy that has taken place under a conservative government.
    All sorts of strange new chickens are coming home to roost.
    It’s a new dispensation…..

  115. Shy Ted says:

    1735099 #3416680, posted on April 18, 2020 at 6:19 am
    50+ years of teaching taught me that you cannot make any child do something he/she doesn’t want to do.

    Yep, no child ever did anything their parents, teachers or others forced them to do. I’ll bet no Cat could tell a story of something they were forced to do as a kid. I always did my homework, behaved at school, ran out onto the pitch in the freezing cold and ate broccoli because I wanted to.
    But I believe you, TooBob, were never able to make any child do something they didn’t want to. Hard to believe anything you write but I believe this.

  116. Farmer Gez says:

    Their orders…

    – TV, worksheets and online learning.
    – Set them no more than 2-3 hours of this academic work a day

    The whole system is glorified homework, not teaching. The older kids will cope but the little tackers don’t have the foundation skills behind them to work alone.

  117. Mother Lode says:

    Trump has a weight problem, and was deferred from service in Vietnam 5 times.

    I would hesitate to call it a problem. The guy has boundless energy, has all his enemies on the back foot, clean bill of health, and is married to a model who exudes calm, grace, and serenity.

    He can reduce foes to a gibbering heap in a single tweet. Like calling Cuomo’s brother ‘Fredo’.

    Compare to the previous guy, whose Presidency has been thoroughly eclipsed, emerging back into the light only occasionally when assessing the damage being repaired, and that bestial savage wife of his.

    As for deferments – this from a guy who has spent half a century bitching about getting sent to Vietnam, how governments should not have the power, bitching about not being able to stay in Australia, and once in Vietnam fleeing back to base to operate a projector and count blankets in storerooms.

    Trump succeeded in what Numbers so desperately wanted. This is jealousy, not righteous anger.

  118. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “50+ years” of teaching taught me that you cannot make any child do something he/she doesn’t want to do.

    Just remember…the pervert wrote this.

  119. Dr Faustus says:

    You’ve never worked in the Victorian Public Service, have you?

    No.
    But goalz.

  120. Black Ball says:

    Good morning all.
    Indeed you are correct Mater. I have had mates here for a beer, been to others for bbq. No one gives a flying fornication. But as struth notes, watch what happens when a tracking device is forced upon us. Won’t be fun.

  121. Shy Ted says:

    Well done, calli and others, beat me to it.

  122. Cassie of Sydney says:

    ” and that bestial savage wife of his”

    A very accurate description.

  123. Atoms for Peace says:

    With Sco Mo’s talk about economic sovereignty, no apparent mention of the elephant in the room.
    Baseline power security. We have exported jobs and carbon emissions offshore. Couple of HELE coal fired power stations please Scott, or your plans will be still born if Australian companies factor in power prices and go ” Naaah

  124. stix

    You probably already know this, but childhood educational attainment is really driven by parental care.

    People from stable homes pretty much learn to read and write from their parents.

    The same kids then can ask Mum and Dad about stuff they don’t know.

    I am not putting shit on good teachers. The system is awful, there are lots of dumb, useless teachers who should have gotten the most menial of jobs (and we can’t fire) and parents that are worse than useless.

    If you take out non-academic work, school hours could be trimmed to boot. At least the great and merciful Corona Chan is showing us this fact.

    If anything, the upside might be improved teacher accountability, more homeschooling and parents questioning if their *career* no one else cares about us important at all.

  125. Atoms for Peace says:

    Farmer Getz,,poisoning critters to produce food. Shock, horror..wonder if Vegans know that 🙂 ps..I do tell Vegans that once they introduce themselves as such.

  126. Bushkid says:

    Struth
    #3416760, posted on April 18, 2020 at 8:32 am
    Just south of you Bushkid.

    Thanks Struth, nice to know there are a couple of other Cats in the region. There are a couple of others from different blogs around the place too, a few hundred kilometres being “close”. If you’re interested, ask Since for my email.

    I’m about to email my fed and state MPs about this latest bit of insanity that Morrison has come out with – the “compulsory” downloading of their tracking app. It has to be stamped on right away.

    What disturbs me is Morrison’s language – the “I really don’t want to do this to you, but I will, regretfully, do it if you make me” approach.

  127. Boambee John says:

    A few days ago, someone posted a link to the story of a government school teacher (from Victoria???), who was jailed for [email protected] offences against more than 30 kids, and was shuffled from school to school by the education department.

    Could anyone please provide the link.

  128. mh says:

    Twostix
    #3416718, posted on April 18, 2020 at 7:56 am
    That’s why people are obeying the lockdowns and why the streets are largely empty.

    The fuck are you talking about?

    The shops are packed, my street and suburb are busier than ever

    Really? Where are you?

  129. Give the wines from Tumbarumba a chance.

    Poor little blighters had some bushfire issues earlier on in the year. 😭

    I even helped clean up after the fires. My two days of physical labour makes me a son of the soil, I’VE PICKED COTTON!, etc.

  130. johanna says:

    From Mick, 11.59pm:

    The Beaumont children abduction and the murders at Wanda happened at about the same time, a whole new phenomenon to a naive young fella in his teenage. Wanda and Greenhills and Sandshoes (?) were remote places regarded as safe until then, as I recall, but that changed.

    I can only but imagine the mood among the beach and Shire people. That was a young families dormitory area in the mid ’60s, with a brand new high school near Taren Point and “pleasant and soporific” describes it well. I have long believed the police had a couple of pretty good suspects who they could not quite nail.

    That brand new high school was my alma mater, Endeavour HS.

    Yes, the Wanda murders were a loss of innocence event, as I imagine the Beaumont episode was for Adelaide. Previously, nobody thought twice about going to, or letting their children go to, those remote parts of the beach. That changed forever.

    I often wonder if the murders would have been solved with the forensic science we now have. It was pretty primitive in those days, and the calibre of the wallopers was less than optimal, I’m sorry to say.

  131. What disturbs me is Morrison’s language – the “I really don’t want to do this to you, but I will, regretfully, do it if you make me” approach.

    It is because we fail to see his greatness.

    https://youtu.be/k-2KqwevtEc

  132. Leigh Lowe says:

    Atoms for Peace

    #3416777, posted on April 18, 2020 at 8:43 am

    With Sco Mo’s talk about economic sovereignty, no apparent mention of the elephant in the room.
    Baseline power security. We have exported jobs and carbon emissions offshore. Couple of HELE coal fired power stations please Scott,

    Announce it.
    When the Greens march in the streets to protest ask Dan how many copped the $1652.
    Quarantine over.

  133. Cassie of Sydney says:

    [email protected] offences against more than 30 kids”

    Yes…but haven’t we just been lectured above by our very own far-left pervert that “his 50+ years of teaching had taught him that you cannot make any child do something he/she doesn’t want to do.”

  134. Economic and military sovereignty?

    Nukes!

    https://youtu.be/uK367T7h6ZY

  135. Bushkid says:

    Boambee John
    #3416783, posted on April 18, 2020 at 8:48 am
    A few days ago, someone posted a link to the story of a government school teacher (from Victoria???), who was jailed for [email protected] offences against more than 30 kids, and was shuffled from school to school by the education department.

    Could anyone please provide the link.

    Hmmm. Sounds like a great basis for an ABC “expose”, a book, and subsequent court case.

  136. The 30+ kids did not have chocolate drop eyes.

  137. Geriatric Mayfly says:

    S0 Maxwell knows nothing about criminal law. What were his specialities then? Human Rights should cover all bases.

  138. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “Geriatric Mayfly
    #3416802, posted on April 18, 2020 at 8:56 am
    S0 Maxwell knows nothing about criminal law. What were his specialities then? Human Rights should cover all bases.”

    But of course…that is the basis now for all legal acumen….never mind such paltry things as evidence or presumption of innocence etc etc…it is now all about the “feelz”.

  139. Struth says:

    Struth wants to know why Australians aren’t going spare. It’s easy. Very few are obeying the rules, in practice. Less are everyday. They see the numbers and are increasingly sceptical.

    I’ll just peer into my crystallized B a l l s ……………..

    I see that unlike the USA, where they’d protest and stand up for their rights, the authorities trying to force shit on Australians when they don’t want it, results in the authorities trying to herd cats, which can be quite entertaining to watch.

    I think above comment sees that I do know why Australians aren’t going spare.
    And I’ve often stated that where the yank and the Aussie differ, is the yank will be symbolically standing up for freedom and fighting it, where the Australians just worked out ways to get around the tyranny.

    Years of taking tourists from all around the world made me realize what a fantastic, excellent and superb culture we had, but it had a couple of flaws.
    Hey no-one’s perfect.
    Our culture, compared to others was bloody superior in so many ways, and it did include ridiculing authority and getting around authority.
    All done with great humour and inventiveness.
    We HAD that reputation for a reason.
    But the fault lies in doing the best with the hand you are dealt, instead of holding those to account that dealt you that hand.
    There comes a time you won’t be able to get around tyrants.
    No matter how inventive you are, and you should not as men, put up with their imposition.
    Those tyrants were outside our borders, so war could be fought.
    Now they are inside the gates, we must work out who exactly the enemy is, and take them on.
    These blogs are good for working that out.
    So I suggest the Chinese are not the problem.
    It is our “representatives ” who opened the gates to them and are now still, doing their bidding.
    Those that have placed themselves above the rule of law.
    I worked out this was a media beatup when it first happened and obviously, the reaction was also not a reaction to a virus.
    So I go where I want as often as I can, as mater states others are doing.
    I do what I want and try to avoid being arrested or the first one shot.
    But we are not free to go where we want, by gunpoint we are held, and so “getting around it” isn’t good enough.
    The politically pig ignorant Australians (which is three quarters of them, and another major cultural flaw), this time must understand, getting around this won’t work in the long run, and we have already let our liberties disappear, too much, and we cannot accept what has been done to us already, let alone what is to come.

  140. Gab says:

    Here’s a link to that story where the education deptment shuffled a pedo phile teacher around other schools https://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-09-19/victims-launch-legal-action-against-education-department/7857178

  141. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “Gab
    #3416809, posted on April 18, 2020 at 9:01 am”

    Gab…I have discovered a very good youtube channel you might be interested in….Patrick is a traditional Catholic and does some great interviews…..

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWzifzT03gicvPKve7QrqSg/videos

  142. Mater says:

    Indeed you are correct Mater. I have had mates here for a beer, been to others for bbq. No one gives a flying fornication. But as struth notes, watch what happens when a tracking device is forced upon us. Won’t be fun.

    As has been mentioned here before, the structure of the Australian community (and our various Police Forces) is based around a ‘high trust’ society.

    They have nowhere near the numbers required to control the populace en masse. That’s understandable, they were never designed to. They have always relied on popular support – and a VERY large serving of bluff. That bluff is being called, because they’ve killed a large portion of community support.

    Sure there is some token stories in the press (part of the propaganda which is required to maintain the bluff), but considering the number of people flouting the rules, they are, in reality, largely ineffective.

    The victim here is the lost trust we once had in the police. Having them used like this has broken the bond of trust and cast them as a object of suspicion, rather than as a saviour, in time of need. Things are not going to ‘snap-back’ into shape after this.

    P.S. Had the Police Association come out and done what we regularly see them do: that is, announce that they’ll uphold the law, issue warnings, but refuse to fine people, more of that trust might have survived. They’d have been seen as humans (fellow Australians) doing an unpleasant task.

  143. I missed out last year, but got mit uns, I shall climb Ayers Rock one day.

    Was anyone getting busted for this prior?

    Work contact was bragging about climbing it last year.

  144. Boambee John says:

    Thanks Gab.

  145. Twostix says:

    Boy oh boy oh boy.

  146. When 12 cops arrest 2 men for eating pizza in a car, it makes me care less about their operational hazards.

    So Joe Q Public such as myself sees Ron Iddles then we see people like Fowler, Rogerson, Jubelin, Gobbo etc.

    We’re bewildered when the good cops aren’t destroying the bad, even downright evil ones.

    When some degenerate shoots a young PC or detective, there is doubt in your mind if the dead cop wasn’t a crook anyways, perhaps more so than the cop killer.

  147. Nick says:

    I cannot believe we sat here and listened to this guy criticising others for wearing ironed jeans and tasseled loafers.
    Probably drinking rosè all the while.
    It makes me sick to my stomach.

    I say bring forth the Cat’s collar of shame.

  148. Leigh Lowe says:

    I watched the Pell interview again last night followed by the Gobbo cluster.
    Sky should just set up another channel …
    Ashton’s Blooper Tapes.

  149. Jesus H Christ.

    1984 was a documentary.

  150. Leigh

    They’d have to pay too much in royalty payments to Benny Hill’s heirs.

  151. Dr Faustus says:

    What disturbs me is Morrison’s language – the “I really don’t want to do this to you, but I will, regretfully, do it if you make me” approach.

    Yes, most disturbing.

    From the get go Morrison and his CMO coterie have been following overseas Covid policy responses – irrespective of whether they make sense, or are effective.

    The tracking app concept is already up and running: Singapore, US, and the EU have/are about to roll out versions. Significantly, none of these are resorting to compulsion (not even authoritarian Singapore) – in fact quite the reverse.

    Big Daddy’s dark, ‘my preference is Plan A and giving people a change to do it right’, quasi-threat to force the HappyTracker app onto Australia is an entirely home-grown piece of overreach. And, as with so much of this Covid response, the unintended fuckup fairies are already circling.

    Hopefully, with Albanese publicly distancing, Morrison will see the political writing on the wall.
    But, sadly, unlikely.

  152. Cardimona says:

    Dr Birx just used the term “specificity” on whitsehouse.gov/live.
    Only other person I’ve ever heard use that term was whatsisname, the Milky Bar Kid…

  153. mh says:

    COVID-19 new deaths +8,479
    The previous 24 hours COVID-19 new deaths +6,996
    It’s not going away in the northern hemisphere.
    Whereas the Southern Hemisphere it hasn’t really taken off at all.

  154. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “Leigh Lowe
    #3416818, posted on April 18, 2020 at 9:12 am
    I watched the Pell interview again last night followed by the Gobbo cluster.
    Sky should just set up another channel …
    Ashton’s Blooper Tapes.”

    I have now watched the interview three times….and every time, given the great injustice he endured, I have been bowled over by Cardinal Pell’s innate dignity, kindness and decency. He is a mensch….and I can think of no greater compliment.

  155. The Brits need to sack every last copper there and rebuild law enforcement from the ground up.

    No pensions, no coming to Australia and harrassing Uber drivers.

  156. But was it programmatic specificity?

  157. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “Legalise Sedition
    #3416826, posted on April 18, 2020 at 9:18 am
    The Brits need to sack every last copper there and rebuild law enforcement from the ground up.”

    As does Victoria.

  158. Atoms for Peace says:

    Leigh..noice!

  159. Cardimona says:

    The Cat really is the best source of info and ideas.
    Got everything I needed for today’s letter from a short scroll from Twostix at 0756 to Mater at 0816.
    Thank, team!
    Just sent this to eight papers.

    The Editor

    Traffic congestion charts (Tomtom.com) for cities here and elsewhere show that people are sick of ridiculous, contrary, and conflicting “lockdown laws” and are taking back their freedom.

    Churches, sports and social groups are gathering – surreptitiously instead of openly, in order to avoid unwanted (and unnecessary) police attention.

    Many shopping precincts are busier than ever. Bunnings’ carparks have been packed. People simply prepare an excuse in case they’re intercepted.

    Coffee shop addicts go out for one day’s groceries, get the daily latte, and chill with their mates on the footpath instead of inside.

    It’s more than two weeks since Queenslanders shuffled through the disease-exchange polling stations for local government elections.

    But still the infection rates don’t surge, our hospitals stand empty, and our casual nurses go without pay.

    The scary numbers from the US are from Democrat-controlled cities, and are artificially inflated to make President Trump look bad.

    Give it up, ScoMo; it’s over. We’ve been hoaxed on a global scale. By China and the UN’s WHO, with the usual globalists and socialists along for the ride.

    (177 words)

  160. Dr Faustus says:

    That bluff is being called, because they’ve killed a large portion of community support.

    Individual cases of police stupidity and overreach also effortlessly jump State borders.

    A sloppy police collar for teaching a kid to drive in Victoria, or a fine for eating a public kebab in NSW – quickly pops up in Queensland as ‘evidence’ that the Cops Are Dead Set Against Us.

    A big national problem given VikPol’s high standards.

  161. Struth says:

    but considering the number of people flouting the rules, they are, in reality, largely ineffective.

    This is said while you cannot go to a restaurant or meet your mates at a pub for a beer.
    You can’t travel interstate or out of your region, can’t get to your sick oldies, have no job now and can’t go down the beach, fishing camping, go and stay at a caravan park, or gather to worship your god, if you are a Christian, or gather to respect the war dead that fought for our freedom, and just didn’t sneak and hide from German troops to get around them.

    The things that matter are not being dealt with, and this time they really matter.

    My point is, Aussies may think being tracked by Government repulsive because they like the freedom to get around things that they should actually fight head on to remove.
    Far too much freedom has been removed, that if we are honest with ourselves, is an act of war against us, and we are not getting around or able to ignore.
    The minor shit yes, but the major shit, no.

  162. dover_beach says:

    Could anyone please provide the link.

    Here.

  163. Roger says:

    What disturbs me is Morrison’s language – the “I really don’t want to do this to you, but I will, regretfully, do it if you make me” approach.

    Morrison is a soft pillow who bears the impress of whoever is sitting on him.

    When it was Abbott it was for the good.

    Brendan Murphy not so much.

  164. Leigh Lowe says:

    Sure there is some token stories in the press (part of the propaganda which is required to maintain the bluff), but considering the number of people flouting the rules, they are, in reality, largely ineffective.

    And what are the rules?
    A j*weller rang Neil Mitchell yesterday to say he was open.
    Neil not happy.
    J*weller tells him the regulations don’t stop him opening.
    Neil very high-horsey.
    J*weller asks how it would be illegal for him to open with full distancing, but a hairdresser can spend 30 minutes touching someone?
    Neil dismounts from the high-horsey and goes a bit umm-ah, well, it’s the vibe of the thing.
    Translation?
    Neil isn’t in the market for j*wels but does like to look nicely groomed when he appears on telly.
    Outrageous outrage ensues.
    Karens lining up to call in.

  165. Karens need their speak to the manager haircuts, you see?

  166. Dr Faustus says:

    Rosé has its place.

    A beach bar in Majorca; in a tall glass, with ice-cubes and orange slices.
    And a little plate of fried baby octopi.

  167. Geriatric Mayfly says:

    The Brits need to sack every last copper there and rebuild law enforcement from the ground up.”

    The British Police forces were rife, at one stage, with Free Masonry, particularly at in the higher ranks. I wonder.

  168. Leigh Lowe says:

    Dr Faustus

    #3416842, posted on April 18, 2020 at 9:34 am

    Rosé has its place.

    There are two types of men:-
    1. Men who drink rosé;
    2. Real men.

  169. Mater says:

    My point is, Aussies may think being tracked by Government repulsive because they like the freedom to get around things that they should actually fight head on to remove.

    No arguments, Struth.
    But whilst we still even have a significant number of trusted Cats on this blog, supporting the measures, the time is obviously not right.

    Discretion is sometimes the better part of valour. At least for the time being.

  170. cohenite says:

    Tom’s toons are great; but broelman, rowe and every English cartoonist are so anti-Trump they’re stupid. T really want to punch rowe in his stupid face.

  171. Dr Faustus says:

    In Stupid Is Thriving In Canberra news:

    The latest advice is that you keep that walk, run, cycle or hike to 30 minutes in length.

    Golf is still allowed, but people must follow the strict social distancing rules.

    Eight out of ten of Canberra’s golf courses remain open, with the RMC closed and Federal temporarily closed for maintenance.

    So, 30 minutes on the golf course?
    For me, that’s 17 strokes and two holes.

  172. Bushkid says:

    Roger
    #3416839, posted on April 18, 2020 at 9:31 am
    What disturbs me is Morrison’s language – the “I really don’t want to do this to you, but I will, regretfully, do it if you make me” approach.

    Morrison is a soft pillow who bears the impress of whoever is sitting on him.

    When it was Abbott it was for the good.

    Brendan Murphy not so much.

    Indeed.

    There are too many sheeple gushing over how Morrison “stopped the boats”, and so we should respect and follow him now, he’s “doing the right thing to save us all” blah blah blah.

    What they all forget is that it was only under Abbott’s direction that Morrison actually did anything positive about the illegal flotillas.

    Morrison is a follower, not a leader, except when he goes off the reservation as with this latest brain fart that exposes his inner control freak dictator streak.

    Under a good leader, he can do well. Under this current campaign by the CMO and DCMO, UN and WHO he’s just dangerous. Little Hitlers who’ve found a pliable PM happy to grant their every wish – because he’s a control freak himself. Oh, and a scared one at that. A dangerous combination.

  173. Cardimona says:

    Struth at 0827.

    I’ve found local support is far greater than local resentment – it’s just that the supporters will only say it quietly in your ear for fear of attracting the resentment crabs.

  174. Des Deskperson says:

    ‘I don’t understand how public servants working for the ABC, because that what they really are, are not on APS pay scales, and have the same outside work restrictions on them as any other public servant. It is straight out conflict of interest.’

    The ABC grunts covered by the EA are on similar pay seats to the APS, at last as far as far as managers and administrators go. Top middle managers are on around $125,000 pa, about the same as an EL 2.

    ‘Stars’ on individual contracts – almost everyone you see or hear on the ABC – are, however, a whole other matter. Their rewards presumable reflects their unique talents.

    The only restrictions on APS employees taking up outside work is that they must avoid real or perceived conflicts interest and that their outside work does not interfere with their ability to do their APS job.

    The ABC has a rather more complex policy on external work – probably reflecting its high public profile – here:

    https://edpols.abc.net.au/guidance/external-work-and-editorial-conflicts/

    Like many sensible codes, the policy sets out principles – with examples – that have to be applied in individual cases rather than laying down precise prescriptions:

    I won’t go into the detail of the policy, but I was struck by this this example:

    ‘..a radio or television program maker involved in a documentary critically examining the solar energy industry could not also be employed by a company selling solar panels.’

    Could this apply to Dr Swan?

  175. notafan says:

    I’ve noticed more traffic but with cafes and half the shops and all public facilities shut it’s hard to actually do much.

    The once verboten homeschooling is interesting though as Farmer Gez says you can’t possibly expect littlies to work on their own.

    If mum is keen they should be motoring.

    My rellie had a go at home schooling in February, ahead in leaps and bounds when rejoined the class before lockdown.

    A few surreptitious play dates perhaps for fun times.

    Agree children of motivated parents are going to do well.

    When school returns it will be a pickle.

  176. Dr Faustus says:

    There are two types of men:-
    1. Men who drink rosé;
    2. Real men.

    Plus men who drink rose so they can eat fried octopus.
    I think that covers it.

  177. notafan says:

    Tradies working in the building industry, particularly medium to small seem to have avoided most of the farcical restrictions.

    And they don’t bother with social distancing.

    Very ticked about no playing football.

  178. Black Ball says:

    Yes Leigh Lowe. Neil Mitchell is being a bit of a cockhead. Must be from working from home. Or is he? 🤔

  179. Roger says:

    ‘Stars’ on individual contracts – almost everyone you see or hear on the ABC – are, however, a whole other matter. Their rewards presumable reflects their unique talents.

    Funny how individual contracts are good for ABC “stars” but bad for the average worker.

  180. Struth says:

    No arguments, Struth.
    But whilst we still even have a significant number of trusted Cats on this blog, supporting the measures, the time is obviously not right.

    Who?

    Most of them were just still MSM believers, and have come around.

    The shock that the left can be so destructive and lie and co ordinate to do so is a shock to many people.

    At the start, I knew statistics could not be believed, the Media could not be believed, government could not be believed, and medical bureaucracies could not be believed.

    We knew the left had a major incentive to do what they have done.
    The destruction of the west before a resurgent and sovereign United States under Trump won.
    That’s what we are doing in this position now.
    I stated I wanted proof of deaths not from government departments or the MSM.
    I was howled down.
    I was being ridiculous.
    I wanted reports from right wing sites, and I don’t call Foxtel right wing either.

    But people still had faith in government departments long since marched through.
    Worldwide.
    People still believing at least a half of what they are seeing on the television.
    People still yesterday quoting the ABC’s surveys as if they hold a spec of truth.
    That’s right, we all want this shutdown says the ABC, they ran a survey after all, (run by a journalist) and people declare their disgust for Australians!

    We have generations who have taken their news from the MSM, and back about 1960 you could still do that with relative confidence that at least half of what you were hearing was correct, based entirely on the standards and ethics of our more Christian society at the time.
    You can believe nothing from the MSM……at all.
    It should be obvious to all but old habits die hard.

  181. Black Ball says:

    I can see tension, like the OK Corrall. Everyone’s fingers twitching on the holster, awaiting the inevitable. The new fred.

  182. Perfidious Albino says:

    ‘..a radio or television program maker involved in a documentary critically examining allegations of historical sexual abuse by a public figure could not also publish a book supporting the complainants allegations.’

  183. Farmer Gez says:

    Sadly Nota, as my secondary teacher wife says, there’s a good few students who go to school gladly to get away from home life.

  184. miltonf says:

    Tom Elliot’s working from home. I find him fairly good. Listen to him driving home from work. He has some wakadoodles calling him up sometimes.

  185. Carpe Jugulum says:

    New Fred Troops.

  186. Farmer Gez says:

    So, 30 minutes on the golf course?
    For me, that’s 17 strokes and two holes.

    Well you are a ‘Dr’ Faustus.
    What really pisses off the doctor/lawyer set is when fit young football type lads wander in, smack the ball twice as far and still drop it in the green.

  187. notafan says:

    There is no doubt that the northern hemisphere has experienced a high death toll.

  188. Greg Norman can still crunch it, but he’s ripped and jacked to boot.

  189. Struth says:

    Blokes around here usually start off the conversation with, How ya going with all this virus bullshit?
    They say it loudly.

    But I hate to say it, and I don’t want to get into the female vs male thing today, but they don’t tend to say it when women are in the room.
    And that is where they fail, and where men these days are fucking useless.

    How comforting would it be for women, if men just call this bullshit out, in front of their fearful women, in public?
    In front of women other than their wives at home, who then just dismiss their husband as a crackpot because they don’t hear it from other men.
    All women in our civilisation are our responsibility to defend from evil and it’s bullshit.

    They should think more of women than to just humour them.
    The women are still not coming back fully, from their dizzying hysteria just yet.
    They should be relaxed (back in the kitchen) and under no illusion this is bullshit and their menfolk are going to sort out the per pe-trators.

    Ah, the perfect Struth world………………………..you know yooz want ut.

  190. Struth I constantly tell people it’s bullshit.

  191. Infidel Tiger King says:

    COVID-19 new deaths +8,479
    The previous 24 hours COVID-19 new deaths +6,996
    It’s not going away in the northern hemisphere.
    Whereas the Southern Hemisphere it hasn’t really taken off at all.

    I suspect we are going to find out that the very worst thing you can do when the virus starts spreading through the community is to quarantine everybody. Particularly in high density cities.

  192. notafan says:

    I doubt any claimimg it’s a work of fiction is going to test that theory by sending their oldies out hither and thither, certainly not going to say sure mum and dad book that cruise to Venice in September.

  193. Farmer Gez says:

    I said that a week ago ITK.
    It makes no sense to lock people down in apartment buildings shared with hundreds and then let them go out and shop in concentrated numbers, only to come home with the ‘catch of the day’ to infect the family and building.
    I’m only a thick farmer without a medical degree but this defies logic.

  194. Spurgeon Monkfish III says:

    This is jealousy

    In a nutshell, Load – and the syphilitic ol’ nong is too stupid to even try to hide it.

  195. DrBeauGan says:

    There are two types of men:-
    1. Men who drink rosé;
    2. Real men.

    There are two types of men:-
    Those who can spell rosé correctly
    And those who can’t.

  196. Knuckle Dragger says:

    Mater at 9.06;

    I was catching up, but this is entirely accurate:

    ‘The victim here is the lost trust we once had in the police. Having them used like this has broken the bond of trust and cast them as a object of suspicion, rather than as a saviour, in time of need. Things are not going to ‘snap-back’ into shape after this.

    ‘P.S. Had the Police Association come out and done what we regularly see them do: that is, announce that they’ll uphold the law, issue warnings, but refuse to fine people, more of that trust might have survived. They’d have been seen as humans (fellow Australians) doing an unpleasant task.’

    Excellent. Just excellent.

    Now think back to all that footage of the underemployed traffic cops and the like giving the punters over a gorilla in burn time for a ‘breach’. Because I have, and haven’t seen one of the wallopers with over five years in the trade doing it. All young starry-eyed rosy-cheeked wunderkind who’ve never worn a smack in the moosh.

    They don’t recruit for common sense any more, and the reason is they outsource it to contractors who have no clue what to look for but are nevertheless cheaper. A close associate of mine wasn’t asked why he wanted to be a copper during his recruitment panel.

    He WAS asked how many pub fights he’d been in. When the answer was ‘my fair share, but I didn’t start any of them’ the panel all started writing furiously, and said associate thought he’d fucked it up. Not so, apparently. This was in the mid-90s, mind. Better times.

  197. Boambee John says:

    dover beach

    Thanks also.

  198. Knuckle Dragger says:

    Dr Faustus:

    ‘A sloppy police collar for teaching a kid to drive in Victoria, or a fine for eating a public kebab in NSW – quickly pops up in Queensland as ‘evidence’ that the Cops Are Dead Set Against Us.’

    Exactomundo.

    This is also the reason why the midget angry cop chick in Vicco who burned the L Plater is now on sick leave, after having been roundly abused Essendon cheer squad-style by her colleagues at the station, and very likely now having damaged or ‘biohazard-enhanced’ personal possessions there.

  199. EvilElvis says:

    Their orders…

    – TV, worksheets and online learning.
    – Set them no more than 2-3 hours of this academic work a day

    Ahahahahah.

    We’re seeing things are worse than we ever imagined.

    Had the same experience, Stix. 400 emails sent to parents, no login details for several sites so I just said stuff it! Sat my two youngest down, dumped any intention of doing arty shit and focused on the maths and english websites we could access. The younger was off and racing, the older needs some hands on and explaining of certain things with a pen and paper to do working. In two days we probably did 4 solid hours each day. Day 3 the access to teacher notes and a diary with each day’s expectations arrived. In two days we’d done more than a weeks allotted work in 2 major subjects and had a pad with several pages of home drawn equations to help the older boy out.

    The effort to set up the website access and the consequent cock up of too many different sites and access issues is just typical PS rubbish. I can’t see why the teachers weren’t better off emailing out once or twice a week the kids usual work sheets. The same stuff they normally get sent home with. At least the kids can keep using pens and pencils in an age where writing skills are an embarrassment. Send some stuff back to teacher occassionally at staggered intervals to check progress and Bobs your aunties live in lover.

    Teachers, being predominantly female, are hooked on interaction. But interaction that is fawning, social media based shite that sucks in the mums, beta dad’s and kids who are raised on the crap. No discipline, no focus, no smart kids.

  200. Knuckle Dragger says:

    Sedition:

    ‘When some degenerate shoots a young PC or detective, there is doubt in your mind if the dead cop wasn’t a crook anyways, perhaps more so than the cop killer.’

    Fair point, but a ‘young PC’ has not the time in nor the contacts or networks to be properly crook. An older Sergeant, maybe.

    Detectives can go either way, dependent on where they’ve worked and most importantly if they decide there’s an easier way to augment the old pay packet.

  201. Top Ender says:

    There are six types of men:

    1. Men who drink rosé
    2. Men with man-buns
    3. Men who call themselves feminists
    4. Men who drive Volvos
    5. Men who say “No-one needs to own a gun”

    6. Real men

  202. Leigh Lowe says:

    This is also the reason why the midget angry cop chick in Vicco who burned the L Plater is now on sick leave, after having been roundly abused Essendon cheer squad-style by her colleagues at the station …

    This is my problem with “discretion”.
    These Mini-me Big Kevs are itching to use their “discretion” to book anybody who offends them at first glance … cute 17 year old L-platers, little old ladies who look a bit One Nation, anyone with a “Christian Fish” bumper sticker … whilst a Beemer 5 series full of JBs will get a free pass.

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