Why didn’t Malcolm see his removal as a CIA coup?

From The Age: ‘Trump kept talking over the top of me’: Turnbull recounts tense call. Turnbull has to be the absolute high water mark of political stupidity. Is there anyone more completely dense who has ever been a political leader anywhere? Read this and wonder.

A furious Donald Trump berated then-prime minister Malcolm Turnbull over a deal to resettle hundreds of refugees, only to joke about the agreement months later by claiming 2000 “terrorists” would come to America.

The US President swung wildly in the negotiations to resettle asylum seekers from Manus Island and Nauru, in a pattern repeated in volatile talks to give Australia valuable exemptions in Mr Trump’s trade war with China.

Recounting the clashes and compromises in a new memoir, Mr Turnbull tells of a colleague going “white with horror” at Mr Trump’s ferocity about the refugee deal in a notorious phone conversation in January 2017….

“As his anger rose, Trump kept talking over the top of me, with more intensity,” Mr Turnbull writes of the phone call.

“It was as though at times he was talking to himself or perhaps to the people in the room, which of course included [then presidential adviser] Steve Bannon, one of the deal’s fiercest opponents.

“At one point, I looked up from the phone across my desk to [senior adviser] David Bold – his face was white with horror – so I turned to look out the window instead.”…

When Mr Trump asked his wife, Melania, to join the talks, he joked with Mr Turnbull about the refugee deal he had been so angry about months earlier.

“Melania, do you know, Malcolm has 2000 of the worst terrorists in the world locked up on a desert island and that fool Obama agreed to take them?” Mr Trump said, according to the new memoir.

“And now Malcolm has talked me into taking them, too.”

Mr Turnbull notes that while the conversation was “surreal”, the deal meant refugees would soon begin leaving the islands to resettle in the US….

“So, you’ve been having a little fun at my expense, Malcolm?” he said, according to Mr Turnbull’s account. “It’s not bad. Lots of people think you are better than Alec Baldwin.”

As French President Emmanuel Macron listened, Mr Turnbull told Mr Trump – “wearily” – that the refugees were not terrorists.

“Oh, yes, they are,” Mr Trump replied, in Mr Turnbull’s account. “They are the worst, and that fool Obama – the worst president EVER – agreed to take them to America. Can you believe that? Would you take them, Emmanuel?”

Mr Turnbull says the French President opened his mouth but did not say anything.

Mr Turnbull concludes that Trump is a “radical” and “populist” leader whose deliberate unpredictability generates fear and anxiety in other nations rather than respect for American strength.

The only reason we can rule out a CIA coup is that everything Malcolm stood for is part of the American Deep State agenda. That Malcolm is a fool has long been known, but not with as much detail as he has now provided us with.

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61 Responses to Why didn’t Malcolm see his removal as a CIA coup?

  1. C.L.

    A furious Donald Trump berated then-prime minister Malcolm Turnbull …

    Good.

  2. Infidel Tiger King

    Turnbull still seething at his treatment by Trump.

    Meanwhile, Trump wouldn’t even remember who he was.

  3. Alec Trumble?

    Who was that guy?

    The President of New Zealand?

    Anyway he’s a llllooser!

  4. Infidel Tiger King

    Mal Rundle? Oh yeah, the Austrian Interior Minister.

  5. a happy little debunker

    Obama’s deal was struck post election during the US government’s ‘transitions mode’.
    That Turnbull played such shenanigans, speaks to his enormous lack of integrity.

  6. Chris M

    Terrific to read, even more respect to President Trump!

    ‘Populist’ means democratic, people’s choice is what globalists fear.

  7. The fact that stuff like this got into print just shows what an idiot Turdball still is. A Labor stooge that nearly paid off for Labor.

  8. Tim Neilson

    Did any of the “refugees” end up in the USA?

    Didn’t Trump say he’d honour the deal that they could come to the US if they wanted, but then announce that none of them would be eligible for US social welfare, at which point they all suddenly lost interest in leaving their hellish incarceration?

  9. iain russell

    One of your better ones, Steve.

  10. NoFixedAddress

    And just think.

    This is the moron that The Liberal Party of NSW put forward as their best!

    Evil fkn filth the lot of them.

  11. Iampeter

    No honest person could read that extract and conclude that Turnbull is the one looking bad.

    Also, gotta love this bit:

    “And now Malcolm has talked me into taking them, too.”

    Worlds greatest negotiator rolled by Malcolm Turnbull!

    Why didn’t Malcolm see his removal as a CIA coup?

    Because he’s not a crackpot.

  12. nb

    The double amusement is that, presumably, this is supposed to represent Trumble at his most insightful and reflect badly on Trump. I doubt the paper would have selected it for special attention otherwise. The paper and Trumble, two sockpuppets miming out the same sad agenda.

  13. David Brewer

    If Turnbull had any concern for the country he would not blab out his version of conversations with world leaders from only a couple of years ago. When he does so, he damages the perception of our trustworthiness in all our international negotiations.

    With our “revolving door” leadership, we cannot afford PMs going on such ego trips less than 2 years after they leave office. And pandering to the Trump-deranged with Trump still in office – on an issue on which Turnbull has already made a fool of himself – is just crazy.

  14. Frank

    Trump on Turnbull, then there was this classic of passive aggressive revenge:

    My good friend Kevin Rude.

    It’s almost as if they have these people pegged years before before the local press work I out.

  15. Gyro Cadiz

    Cretin, simple, asinine, deranged, dim-witted, dullard, fatuous, feeble-minded, idiotic, imbecilic, inane, ludicrous, moronic, simple-minded, slow, witless….

    I just cannot find a word in English which truly describes Turnbull

  16. Roger

    Mr Turnbull concludes that Trump is a “radical” and “populist” leader whose deliberate unpredictability generates fear and anxiety in other nations rather than respect for American strength.

    Translation:

    Trump is a democrat who puts American’s interests first.

  17. don coyote

    Sometimes, it is better to say nothing and be thought a fool
    Than to ……….

  18. Tim Neilson

    No honest person could read that extract and conclude that Turnbull is the one looking bad.

    So says Iamashiteater on the basis of his zero life experience in exercising a position of responsibility.

    For an example of analysis by someone who understands the reality of being entrusted with authority, just look down the thread:

    If Turnbull had any concern for the country he would not blab out his version of conversations with world leaders from only a couple of years ago. When he does so, he damages the perception of our trustworthiness in all our international negotiations.

    With our “revolving door” leadership, we cannot afford PMs going on such ego trips less than 2 years after they leave office. And pandering to the Trump-deranged with Trump still in office – on an issue on which Turnbull has already made a fool of himself – is just crazy.

    Yes.

  19. Lee

    Why didn’t Malcolm see his removal as a CIA coup?

    Because he’s not a crackpot.

    No.
    He’s much, much worse.

  20. Faye

    I’m glad President Trump told him off. Just goes to show what a fool Turnbull is.

  21. “The smartest fool in the room”.

  22. Bronson

    Don don’t tell him that yam is our village idiot. Without yam we’d have to find another idiot which would upset a village some where.

  23. littledozer

    Let’s not forget the eternal love for Hilderbeast expressed almost unanimously throughout the coalition “Barking mad” and “Dropkick” were some of the slurs hurled during the campaign, as well as the over 500 million both parties sent to the Clinton foundation…..doubt any of that missed by the Trump train team.

    Obama ran round smashing up foreign affairs over Russia and Turnbull was a willing pawn in the games the Obama admin engaged in. Only a moron like Turnbull would allow himself to be used in such a way.

  24. Colonel Bunty Golightly

    I don’t think many or even any of theses cockroaches ever reached the US. Once Trump took the welfare sugar off the table I think most of them decided to remain and use our welfare system instead. Australia is a joke!

  25. Iampeter

    So much hate for Turnbull. Why it’s almost like he was a left wing Prime Minister who built the environmentalist bureaucracy, middle class welfare, confiscated peoples weapons, etc…

    Oh wait…that was John Howard.
    Strange we never see this much hate for him from conservatives.
    In fact, didn’t Howard get the “Greatest Living Conservative” award a few years back or something?
    Didn’t the Australian Conservatives have a whole shrine to him on their web-page, saying this was the “ideal” conservative government or something?
    Wait…so why all the hate for Turnbull again?

    Why it’s almost like conservatives are even more left wing than the people they call leftist and hate, but are so totally confused about everything that they don’t even realize it…

  26. nfw

    CIA coup? Couldn’t be. The CIA was working for Turnbull’s friends, you know: Obozo, the Clintons, the left. Now Russian interference, that’s a whole new ball game.

  27. Tim Neilson

    Iampeter
    #3419525, posted on April 19, 2020 at 7:04 pm

    See, Iamashiteater, this is why you’re never going to be able to hold down a job until you change your attitude completely.

    If you haven’t noticed the vast number of criticisms of Howard over the years on this blog, your comprehension skills are clearly inadequate for gainful employment.

    And if you have noticed them and have nevertheless decided to strut and preen on this thread with your “the only conservative in the village” schtick, you’re clearly too conceited and self-absorbed to be capable of competent dealings with other people in the manner required in gainful employment.

  28. areff

    Failed prime ministers seem unusually fond of lying about their encounters with US Presidents. Recall Kevin Rudd regaling dinner party guests in 2008 with alleged examples of George W Bush’s stupidity.

    PM Butter Balls claimed he had to tell W. what the G20 is — and then leaked that claimed conversation to The Australian. Today, of course, he is as one with Turnbull in demanding News Corp be smote and Rupert dragged behind a Tesla to the scaffold.

    These two, the closest Nature comes to matching them would be the high-tide line of scum and rubbish left on the beach as the waters recede

  29. areff

    Iampeter, what a good name — “peter” being US slang for prick.

  30. areff

    I just cannot find a word in English which truly describes Turnbull

    Yiddish does the trick: putz

  31. candy

    “wearily”

    Meaning Malcolm was such a cool, intelligent sophisticated leader talking to a red neck like Trump, so tiresome to have deal with such a buffoon, How times changed though. I remember the look on Malcolm and Julie’s faces in question time when Trump won in 2016. Shock, disbelief.

    Not that Mr Turnbull is not sophisticated in terms of taste, art, music and culture etc. Even writing a book with gossip, sexual innuendo stuff would go against his grain. I would think his son put him up to that part of it. I don’t think Malcolm Turnbull in himself is “crass” but in fact a genteel person.

  32. Rob MW

    Just as well that at that time Trump didn’t know about Downer’s involvement in trying to undermine/invalidate his new administration. The fucking phone line would have boiled the pacific. Turncoat and the liberals got off lightly when Trump should have bashed the living christ out of them.

  33. Squirrel

    “So, you’ve been having a little fun at my expense, Malcolm?” he said, according to Mr Turnbull’s account. “It’s not bad. Lots of people think you are better than Alec Baldwin.”

    Just imagine if Bill (“Trump is barking mad”) Shorten had won the 2016 and/or 2019 election……..

  34. Hay Stockard

    Malcolm is releasing his book on Adolf Hitler’s birthday. Coincidence or something more sinister?

  35. Kingsley

    Can anyone think of a more inconsequential PM than Turnbull?

  36. Hodor

    Ooh Candy,
    Having met Trumble in a political sense, I was overawed at the ego of the prick.

    He would invade a room and pretend that he had taken over like a True Leader.

    The snickers and snorks behind his back were palpable, yet ignored by the fucken “single syllable word for vagina”.

    I ignored him.

  37. NoFixedAddress

    candy
    #3419710, posted on April 19, 2020 at 8:44 pm

    “wearily”

    I am in awe of your assessment.

    To me Turnbull and his coterie found a political party and apparatus that they gutted and clothe themselves in its historical skin.

  38. Nighthawk the Elder

    Turnbull has to be the absolute high water mark of political stupidity. Is there anyone more completely dense who has ever been a political leader anywhere?

    I reckon Kevin Rudd will give Turnbull a run for his money in the dense ex politician stakes. Perhaps we call it a draw and agree they were both utterly useless.

  39. Tel

    CIA coup? Couldn’t be. The CIA was working for Turnbull’s friends, you know: Obozo, the Clintons, the left. Now Russian interference, that’s a whole new ball game.

    Good point … the CIA coup was when Turnbull got into power.

  40. twostix

    As French President Emmanuel Macron listened, Mr Turnbull told Mr Trump – “wearily” – that the refugees were not terrorists.

    “Oh, yes, they are,” Mr Trump replied, in Mr Turnbull’s account. “They are the worst, and that fool Obama – the worst president EVER – agreed to take them to America. Can you believe that? Would you take them, Emmanuel?”

    Completely made up dialogue to pander to the retarded white collar professional middle class’s middle brow condescension.

  41. Professor Fred Lenin

    Turnbull and the krudster are amazing ,they are actually making crooked jools giliard look better , something you would have thought impossible ,but there you go,every time they open their egotistical foolish mouths she looks better . What a trifecta the three lefties make! The krudster turnbull and gilliard the three most incompetent polliemaggots this country has ever produced . The buggers were a pandemic themselves the damage the fools did .

  42. Fisky

    It’s a shame Iampeter wasn’t here a decade ago to explain why the Carbon Tax was “right wing” and repealing it a leftist policy!

  43. Colonel Bunty Golightly

    Professor Fred. Yes, turdball and Crudd are definitely making Gillard look better. But only by comparison. Gillard set the low benchmark which crudd lowered only further. Turdball however managed to completely remove any dignity from politics. It’s not that Gillard was good it’s just that she wasn’t as bad.

  44. John A

    Mutter, mumble…
    Beam in ceiling yes. Chair – could I still kick that away?
    Hey Lucy, how long a rope should I have, do you think?

  45. NoFixedAddress

    eMTee is the defining proof that all persons associated with law in any way shape or form should be banned from all political positions

  46. win

    What can possess Turnbull to hold himself up for ridicule both at home and abroad. Its almost as if he is frightened of something.

  47. Up The Workers!

    ” That Malcolm is a fool has long been known, but not with as much detail as he has now provided us with.”

    Better to have remained silent and be thought of as ‘possibly a fool’, than to open ones’ mouth and remove all doubt.

  48. Iampeter

    It’s a shame Iampeter wasn’t here a decade ago to explain why the Carbon Tax was “right wing” and repealing it a leftist policy!

    The carbon tax is left wing and opposing it is indeed right wing. But Howard supporters, who supported Australia’s first cap and trade scheme and creation of Australia’s green bureaucracy, can’t oppose the carbon tax. Howard supporters are the very leftists that created this mess in the first place.

    Thanks for this post, Fisky. You’ve perfectly proved the point I was making.

    Hey, maybe in another ten years of reading about politics you’ll be able to figure out what’s what.
    Maybe.

  49. Docket62

    No honest person could read that extract and conclude that Turnbull is the one looking bad.’

    Should read: No honest person could read that extract and conclude that Turnbull is telling the truth

    Dickhead

  50. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From win at 6:29 am:

    “What can possess Turnbull to hold himself up for ridicule both at home and abroad. Its almost as if he is frightened of something.”

    He has no mates, that is why he has been so far off track for so many years, blokes who would say:

    ‘Turn it up Malcolm you bloody old fool. Don’t go out there selling that self serving garbage and expect people to swallow it whole. You are old news, no-one gives a rat’s what you think or say. Pull your head in and keep up, it’s your shout you drongo!”

    He has no mates and that should be no surprise at all.

  51. Crossie

    David Brewer
    #3419351, posted on April 19, 2020 at 5:17 pm
    If Turnbull had any concern for the country he would not blab out his version of conversations with world leaders from only a couple of years ago. When he does so, he damages the perception of our trustworthiness in all our international negotiations.

    That’s not true, he got a lift back Paris from Copenhagen climate change summit in Macron’s plane. They had such a wonderful time together. Who would have thunk it, the French imbecile and the Australian moron hit it off?

  52. Crossie

    Rob MW
    #3419723, posted on April 19, 2020 at 8:49 pm
    Just as well that at that time Trump didn’t know about Downer’s involvement in trying to undermine/invalidate his new administration. The fucking phone line would have boiled the pacific. Turncoat and the liberals got off lightly when Trump should have bashed the living christ out of them.

    I don’t think Downer in particular and Australia generally have got away with it yet. I have a horrible feeling Trump will get even over this somehow.

  53. Iampeter

    No honest person could read that extract and conclude that Turnbull is the one looking bad.’

    Should read: No honest person could read that extract and conclude that Turnbull is telling the truth

    Dickhead

    Well, you made a good point. But then called me “dickhead,” which is an emotional response that indicates you know that your own point is not likely correct and what I said was probably right, but you just wish it was wrong.

  54. Ros

    Lurking as usual but am intrigued by this excerpt. Or confused, any who have read this in the digital version, was this discussion between Trump and Turnbull just the one or has he conflated several. If just the one where did Macron come from. And if Macron was part of the conversation, how and why? What did Macron know or care about Australia’s irregulars. Was it because he had sold, or going to sell, (can’t quite remember sequence of those so exciting times to be an Australian), Turnbull some submarines that he was included in the conversation? And was this a very early use of Zoom by our adaptive disruptor high tech genius PM, as Macron opened his mouth but did not speak.

    Well I can’t imagine that Macronwill be considering inviting Malcolm for dinner any time soon as a reward for that gratuitous pointless lunatic inclusion in the tale of the Smartest Man in the Room ever. If Macron ever notices.

    Not important but am curious if any understand what Malcolm is talking about. Kinda like a not so embarrassing as Biden yarn.

  55. Wozzup

    They used to say that there is no fool like an old fool.
    Turnbull is proof positive that there is no fool like a back stabbing, arrogant, petulant, self-serving fool. And that damn fool Turnbull was all of these things. (Though even his foolishness pales by comparison with that of the Liberal Party which appointed him PM when he was so obviously all of the above.)
    Malcolm we see you for what you are. And for me I can only say how do I despise thee…..let me count the ways.

  56. Their ABC talking heads are falling over one another to promote this wretched book. Turnbull and his minders have played our publicly funded broadcaster on a break for free publicity. Anything at all to pile onto our Government, I suppose.

  57. Malcolm Turnbull, Australia’s Mitt Romney!

  58. FelixKruell

    Yes, that account definitely makes one wonder about one of the leaders mentioned…

  59. Professor Fred Lenin

    Politics has become like Limbo dancing ,”how low can you get” instead of how low can you go .

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