Monday Forum: April 20, 2020

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  1. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Delta A
    #3421509, posted on April 20, 2020 at 9:46 pm
    One last comment:

    *1

  2. Perfidious Albino

    Arky – did you mean ‘snitch’, or was that a spelling mistake?!

  3. Rex Mango

    Fat chick answering questions about disease is pretty much the age old question, why do women take it so freely?

  4. feelthebern

    Jasper.
    Not Casper.

  5. Hay Stockard

    Don’t drink canned Prosecco. I thought I scored a bargain. Now I have to lick the cat’s bum to take the taste away I’ll have to save it for when Big Brother says we can have guests again.

  6. bespoke

    feelthebern
    #3421521, posted on April 20, 2020 at 9:54 pm
    Like last week when Bern and Cassie con•sole her.

    Who did what now ?

    h/t Casper from the Simpsons.

    Comfort, expressed compassion.

  7. feelthebern

    Apparently the West Australian has a big bunch of Bali COVID19 data tomorrow.

  8. Rex Mango

    Ok, you break life down to it’s essence, it is pretty simple stuff. If women behaved themselves ; there would be no problems.

  9. Leigh Lowe

    Knuckle Dragger

    #3421518, posted on April 20, 2020 at 9:54 pm

    There are no bogans in Ballarat.

    What the … ?

    Police are investigating the incident which occurred shortly before 3pm on Clover Street in Wendouree.’

    Oh, Wendouree.
    Well, yes.
    Standard fare.
    I have some exposure, but the Subject Matter Expert is Geriatric Mayfly.

  10. Infidel Tiger King

    Apparently the West Australian has a big bunch of Bali COVID19 data tomorrow.

    All fake.

  11. Lilliana

    Pakistan International Airlines will run a one-off flight from Melbourne to Lahore this week to help hundreds of Pakistanis return home from Australia.

    The only good news this week.

  12. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    My chemist must have got a truck load today, there were hundreds of bottles in each bin at both entrances and inside in strategic locations. What’s more, the toilet paper shelves in Woolies were FULL. Be still my heart, this must mean we are not far away from being freed from house arrest.

    Living in rural Western Australia, with traffic restricted between the regions, my local supermarket is just about back to normal levels of stock – we don’t have the “tourists” from Perth stripping the place.

  13. Crossie

    Hay Stockard
    #3421520, posted on April 20, 2020 at 9:54 pm
    While I still respect the office of Comstable I have lost any lingering respect I have had for any Australian police force. Except for the AFP. Never rated them at all.

    Unlike you my regard for the AFP went first, I was hoping that the local guys had more of a connection to their community but obviously I was wrong. I must advise my oldest grandson to reconsider a career in police force, he should go with the game programmer thing instead.

  14. feelthebern

    Don’t drink canned Prosecco.

    On the coach from my sisters wedding to the reception that’s what was on offer.
    Smashed it.
    Awesome drop in a captive market.

  15. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Fat chick answering questions about disease is pretty much the age old question, why do women take it so freely?’

    Rex. The Belgian Health Minister’s on the phone.

    She’d like a word.

    And a pizza.

  16. Arky

    We probably do children much damage by over sentimentalising them.
    In theory, it would be better to treat them with a certain remote coldness.
    However, they are just damn lovable.
    With my own child I have tried to balance these conflicting aims by acting like a complete ogre while she was too young to consciously remember it, such as to ensure she retains some vestigial reptilian memory of what a bastard I really am, but being very nice to her now in the hope that she looks up to me enough not to start dating some complete drooling fucking loser during those teenage years.
    If I get this right, she will make good decisions throughout her life and be able to cheerfully flick me on a pyre when my time is up.

  17. Bar Beach Swimmer

    feelthebern
    #3421496, posted on April 20, 2020 at 9:38 pm
    Turn on PM Live to see idiocy in action.
    Andrew Laming talking to Paul Murray.
    Andrew Laming not exactly the smartest of fellows

    Murray is supposed to be a libertarian – never seen someone crumble so fast. ‘Yes, my man, I’ll stay in doors and take that phone app if it’s for the greater good!’

  18. Leigh Lowe

    Geriatric Mayfly

    #3421522, posted on April 20, 2020 at 9:55 pm

    The ABC didn’t much like the 7 – 0 decision by the land’s highest court.

    Have they openly bagged the HC decision?
    Or is it more of “hug your children”,”believe the victims” and “kick a Catholic”?

  19. feelthebern

    Murray is supposed to be a libertarian

    That’s never been the case.
    He’s more like Turnbull than what he’d like to think.

  20. Infidel Tiger King

    Melbourne is such a hellhole people leave to go to Lahore.

  21. vlad

    Years ago when Duntroon was accused of bastardisation (as if!) some high-ranking officer said – and it was quoted with derision at the time – all such claims are investigated until they are found baseless.

    That’s the logic at their ABC.

  22. feelthebern

    Monty is now skyping into PM Live.

  23. Tel

    Have they openly bagged the HC decision?
    Or is it more of “hug your children”,”believe the victims” and “kick a Catholic”?

    The government have ordered me not to hug my family.

    This will not be forgotten.

  24. Leigh Lowe

    Don’t drink canned Prosecco

    Not advice that I need.
    A bit like “don’t drink rosé in any form”.

  25. feelthebern

    Melbourne is such a hellhole people leave to go to Lahore.

    GOLD !

  26. bespoke

    able to cheerfully flick me on a pyre when my time is up.

    Can we pre order ticket? and will your concubine(armadillo) be joiner you?

  27. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger King

    #3421546, posted on April 20, 2020 at 10:08 pm

    Melbourne is such a hellhole people leave to go to Lahore

    Possibly.
    Maybe it was a choice.
    Lahore or Wendouree?

  28. DrBeauGan

    Tim Minchin attacks your sacred cows, so you loathe him. Some of his songs contain ideas, with which you may disagree, but at least they are there. His ‘all class’ motherfucker song does make a legitimate point: why be appalled by words which are only noises or pixels, and give popes a pass on admitting homoxuals into the church and then trying to cope with some of them turning out to be p doze by covering it up?

    His anti-Pell song was contemptible, pre-judging a case which was a travesty and an obvious stitch-up, and I don’t forgive that, but some of his critics here do much the same.

    Sometimes he’s very witty. Sometimes, not.

  29. Trying to watch Dunkirk but would rather read the Cat. It’s been most amusing. Carry on. Then the bells toll for Grossbard on Seinfeld at 10.30pm, or more accurately, they toll for Costanza after mocking the inmate in handcuffs 😂

  30. Crossie

    feelthebern
    #3421544, posted on April 20, 2020 at 10:06 pm
    Murray is supposed to be a libertarian

    That’s never been the case.
    He’s more like Turnbull than what he’d like to think.

    He talks a lot about his lefty wife so I take him to be close to that himself.

  31. Leigh Lowe

    Arky

    #3421540, posted on April 20, 2020 at 10:04 pm

    Which Bruce Springsteen song was that?

  32. Knuckle Dragger

    Hay,

    The Nuremberg Defence isn’t much of a defence.

    Ultimately, it’s inconsistent and like Joe Louis’ left nut. It ain’t fair and it ain’t right.

  33. Be interested in this Murder In The Outback show concerning Murdoch, Falconio and Lees.

  34. feelthebern

    Tim Blair taking calls on PM Live.

  35. Overburdened

    Re. Mango 20:02

    None of them do.

    It’s in their nature.

  36. Geriatric Mayfly

    I have some exposure, but the Subject Matter Expert is Geriatric Mayfly.

    Scant observations of late LL. I must, as they say, get out more often. Drive through the place occasionally, by day and quickly. It may even be, that many of the habitats have been given over to private ownership. The ones that haven’t continue to give the place that unique cultural identity.

  37. Arky

    Leigh Lowe
    #3421559, posted on April 20, 2020 at 10:11 pm

    ..
    Leigh Lowe, if that’s really your name, if you knew anything about the careful art of fine parenting, you would understand that that is the opposite of a Springsteen song.

  38. feelthebern

    Tim Blair has some horrible plants in his place.

  39. Nick

    Oh

    The future of the AFL’s multi-million-dollar sponsorship with Virgin Australia is clouded as the airline prepares to place itself into voluntary administration.

    Sources said the AFL receives between $5 million and $10 million per annum as part of their lucrative partnership with Virgin, but that the extent of any financial damage will be determined by the potential administrator and the contractual obligation under the sponsorship deal.

    Maybe the Woymns League can step up as a sponsor? Oh hang on.

  40. Overburdened

    Sinclair 21:26

    The bloody bastard.

    He truly is a fuckwit, and no doubt highly talented in other ways.

  41. DrBeauGan

    I can criticise Tim Minchin for poking fun at only right wing sacred cows, and seldom the lefties’ sacred cows. Of which there are a lot.

  42. cohenite

    Here we are, nearly two weeks after the High Court judgement “released the shackles” on civil action and nothing lodged.

    Any claim for compensation based on a criminal accusation almost certainly would need to have it’s evidence tested in a voir dire to a criminal standard. Given the extraordinary claims made against Pell I would think the Briginshaw principle would apply.

  43. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Credlin ran Abbott government, Turnbull claims in ABC interview

    Greg Brown
    Journalist
    @gregbrown_TheOz
    38 minutes agoApril 20, 2020
    Comments

    Malcolm Turnbull says Peta Credlin was “running the country” during the Abbott government as he accused his predecessor of trying to inflame public animosity towards Muslims.

    The former prime minister yet again took aim at his former colleagues in an interview on ABC’s 7.30 report, calling Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton “deluded”, declaring Prime Minister Scott Morrison had “limitations” and claiming the move against his leadership would have failed if Finance Minister Mathias Cormann remained loyal to him.

    Mr Turnbull said there was no comparison to his downfall and his own role in successfully challenging a sitting prime minister in Tony Abbott.

    Ms Credlin, now a host at Sky News — part of News Corp, owner of The Australian — was the chief of staff to Mr Abbott when he was prime minister.

    “The Abbott government was brought down by the Abbott government,” Mr Turnbull said in an interview to mark the release of his memoir, A Bigger Picture.

    “Credlin and Abbott destroyed their own government due to their own follies and then set out to destroy mine.

    From the Oz. Funny, I didn’t think the followers of the ROP needed any help in inflaming public animosity to their Third World religion?

  44. NoFixedAddress

    April 21 2020

    Holocaust Martyrs and Heroes Day

  45. Geriatric Mayfly

    I can criticise Tim Minchin for poking fun at only right wing sacred cows, and seldom the lefties’ sacred cows. Of which there are a lot.

    That bee in his bonnet about a certain religion, seems not to buzz too close to the ROP.

  46. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Maybe the Woymns League can step up as a sponsor? Oh hang on.’

    Haha. This should be good. Perhaps one tiny positive, unintended consequence from this whole shitfight.

    Voijin goes down in a screaming heap. Sponsorship turns to shit.

    AFL now flat out paying the blokes, who’ve had half a season off already and are bleeding from the eyes to get on the track and paid proper again. Their previous (in a tiny minority) ambivalence towards AFLVaginas being paid heaps for nothing now evaporates.

    Ear protection will be the new dunny paper. The squealing begins five minutes after the next board meeting.

  47. Nick

    Yes Nota, that was interesting. Strange the Chinese student blamed the Australian Government for the mess, leaving out her own bat loving compatriots part in all of this. International students lie when they say they get nothing out of studying here.

  48. feelthebern

    Shit’s getting real with the NFL draft.
    49’ers looking to trade away both their first round draft picks for swags of lower round picks.

  49. That’s batty Dr BG.

    Minchin was not singing about how he’s backing the conservative idea to stop gays being priests.

  50. dover_beach

    Why be appalled by words which are only noises or pixels, and give popes a pass on admitting homoxuals into the church and then trying to cope with some of them turning out to be p doze by covering it up?

    Was that really his argument? Surely he would have been rallying against such discrimination on the grounds that it was bigoted to presume any homosexual was a potential p doze.

  51. Pedro the Loafer

    Why are people hoarding mosquito coils?

    I am down to my last ten packets and the IGA shelf is empty. No chunk shelf strippers allowed over the border either.

    Some old gal whingeing to me that there is no sausage meat either, but I have never been guilty of ever buying that shit so I don’t care.

    Her moggie can eat fillet steak.

  52. Arky

    I have witnessed many parents try to cope with the problems of getting their discipline the wrong way round: Spoiling small children and toddlers because they are still in the cute phase, then over compensating trying to pull it back in later.
    Doesn’t work.
    And that’s when they find themselves confronted by a series of sullen pimply losers the little princess is throwing in their face as punishment.

  53. DrBeauGan

    That bee in his bonnet about a certain religion, seems not to buzz too close to the ROP.

    True. He values his skin too much for that. Not admirable, but hardly uncommon among the allegedly comedic classes.

  54. Mark A

    Delta A
    #3421509, posted on April 20, 2020 at 9:46 pm

    This is an excellent site, frequented by like-minded Alphas who enjoy exchanging information, PoV and frequently virtual fisticuffs with bristling enthusiasm. Occasionally, people divulge snippets of their real lives, which is fine. But it isn’t Facebook.

    Well said, plenty of info about politics and other matters, that I don’t have the time to search for.

  55. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Crossie
    #3421556, posted on April 20, 2020 at 10:10 pm

    feelthebern
    #3421544, posted on April 20, 2020 at 10:06 pm
    Murray is supposed to be a libertarian

    That’s never been the case.
    He’s more like Turnbull than what he’d like to think.

    He talks a lot about his lefty wife so I take him to be close to that himself

    During the SSM debate he never stopped telling his viewers about his libertarian ideals. Now, he’s on the side of govt control.

  56. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Credlin ran Abbott government, Turnbull claims in ABC interview

    Greg Brown
    Journalist
    @gregbrown_TheOz
    38 minutes agoApril 20, 2020
    Comments

    Malcolm Turnbull says Peta Credlin was “running the country” during the Abbott government as he accused his predecessor of trying to inflame public animosity towards Mooslims.

    The former prime minister yet again took aim at his former colleagues in an interview on ABC’s 7.30 report, calling Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton “deluded”, declaring Prime Minister Scott Morrison had “limitations” and claiming the move against his leadership would have failed if Finance Minister Mathias Cormann remained loyal to him.

    Mr Turnbull said there was no comparison to his downfall and his own role in successfully challenging a sitting prime minister in Tony Abbott.

    Ms Credlin, now a host at Sky News — part of News Corp, owner of The Australian — was the chief of staff to Mr Abbott when he was prime minister.

    “The Abbott government was brought down by the Abbott government,” Mr Turnbull said in an interview to mark the release of his memoir, A Bigger Picture.

    “Credlin and Abbott destroyed their own government due to their own follies and then set out to destroy mine.

    From the Oz. Funny, I didn’t think the followers of the ROP needed any help in inflaming public animosity to their Third World religion?

  57. feelthebern

    Spoiling small children and toddlers because they are still in the cute phase, then over compensating trying to pull it back in later.

    Children are like dogs.
    First 6 months of discipline is critical.

  58. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    On the rugby league chatter show on Foxsports, a good yarn to be enjoyed by blokes here who have gone a round or two:

    Matt Johns and Kev Walters tell a story about the Kangaroos touring in England (’92 World Cup) and an incident in a bar which had a big local bloke having a crack at The Chief and giving him a bit of hurry up.

    One of the younger commentators asked why the other blokes present didn’t step in and Matt Johns, quick as a flash, dobbed his brother in with “Oh there was only Johns nearby and, once it was over, he starts pulling off his shirt announcing he was about to help out. He does that, you know!” Bloody amusing.

    Apparently captain Mal Meninga entered just after it ended, spotted some blood on Chief’s face and asked what was going on. Just then the other bloke returns from the dunny, strides over to The Chief and announces “I’m ready for a second round mate!” Chief moves to accommodate him and Mal puts his hand out to stop him, saying “I’ll sort this out.”

    Foxsports guest Mal Meninga is then asked to confirm the incident, which he does. The interviewer asks him what he did and Mal answers with a very direct “I solved the problem. We were there to win a game of football, I was the captain and that is what you do.”

    “Did it take long?” asks the interviewer.

    “No, not at all” says big Mal, matter of factly.

    He didn’t need to elaborate, you can imagine he’s carted the bloke outside, given him a left and a straight right, told him to be on his way and not come back.

  59. Steve trickler

    Maxi pads put to another use. Some people are clearly taking the piss.

  60. Leigh Lowe

    Scant observations of late LL. I must, as they say, get out more often. Drive through the place occasionally, by day and quickly. 

    Windows wound up tight?
    Still scarred by the experience of Mrs L finding that the last remaining stocks of some soft furnishing article or other were located at the Wendouree shopping centre.
    FMD.
    The gross tonnage of people aged under 50 trundling around on electric “disability carts” was astounding.
    These people were seemingly not crippled.
    Just too fat to walk.

  61. Bar Beach Swimmer

    International students lie when they say they get nothing out of studying here

    Nick, the menu alone is a step up.

  62. vlad

    I’ve just finished watching Media Watch and words fail me. I’ll need to wait till daybreak to be able to respond to it adequately – if then.

  63. vlad

    His anti-Pell song was contemptible, pre-judging a case which was a travesty and an obvious stitch-up, and I don’t forgive that, but some of his critics here do much the same.

    Not until silver-spoon Minchin is stitched up for a crime he didn’t commit. Then we will have done much the same – possibly. Not before.

  64. notafan

    The person who posted the Pope song with criticism of the lyrics (such as they are) is hardly a Catholic song and dance man. The opposite I would say.

    And I doubt Minchin would be thrilled by the gay – P file connection in fact he would emphatically reject it with much the same language.

    As for Pope Benedict

    He was the one who banned gays from the seminary.

    And of course there is still the underlying Catholics are responsible for all the child abuse in the world because celibacy.

    ‘Poking fun’ is rather a limp description of that extraordinarily witty ditty.

  65. Crossie

    International students lie when they say they get nothing out of studying here.

    We all know they are not here to learn about western values or capitalism, they are here to get a permanent residency visa.

  66. DrBeauGan

    Minchin was not singing about how he’s backing the conservative idea to stop gays being priests.

    He has the prejudices of his audience to consider, but he got close to that.

    DB, I don’t know that he’s ever gone there. It’s not the sort of thing he does. He’s too careful to avoid offending his audience to impress me overly, but he’s relatively rational.

  67. Leigh Lowe

    … claiming the move against his leadership would have failed if Finance Minister Mathias Cormann remained loyal to him.

    And if your Aunty Angela Lansbury had [email protected] she’d be your Uncle Andrew Lansbury.
    What is your point, fuckwit?

  68. Crossie

    Malcolm Turnbull says Peta Credlin was “running the country” during the Abbott government as he accused his predecessor of trying to inflame public animosity towards Mooslims.

    Yet she was OK when she worked for him prior to 2009.

    If I had to choose who is telling the truth and who is telling porkies Malcolm loses.

  69. DrBeauGan

    Not until silver-spoon Minchin is stitched up for a crime he didn’t commit. Then we will have done much the same – possibly. Not before.

    Minchin didn’t do the stitch-up. . What he did was jump to partisan conclusions without looking hard at the facts, and going for the support of others who had done the same. Many here do exactly that. Notaclue just agreed with you on that basis.

  70. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘International students lie when they say they get nothing out of studying here.’

    That’s a bit unfair. Chinese international students should have every opportunity to be Chinese international students.

    In Hungary. Or Poland.

  71. Leigh Lowe

    Spread da word.
    Are the teachers unions aware that, if education can be delivered on-line, a future Conservative Government might deliver on-line education … from India?

  72. Arky

    Many here do exactly that.

    ..
    Oh God.
    Beaugan is channelling numbers Fonda.
    It’s Jane Beaugan.
    The cigar smoking, Vietnam anti- aircraft sitting, leg warmers wearing, shag pile carpeted spaceship pilot.
    It’s a nightmare.

  73. Knuckle Dragger

    Naturally, the next level of victimhood will be the eternal travails of the Chinese gay and lesbian international students.

  74. max

    This is a good read, not too long. If you know ‘American Betrayal’ you might find it interesting.

    Whittaker Chambers through the Eyes of Rebecca West

    By PETER BAEHR
    April 2, 2020 12:00 PM

    Bolshevism’s appeal to Western intellectuals is a mystery we still struggle to explain. Why did artists who despised patriotism show a larger loyalty to Russian chauvinism? Why did writers defend a regime that repeatedly imprisoned, tortured, and killed writers? In short, why did intelligent people who lived in free countries worship at the altar of despotic states? Few thinkers studied this enigma more carefully than the British critic Rebecca West (1892–1983).

    That is not an achievement we associate with her name. Rebecca West is more likely to be recalled for The Return of the Soldier (1918), an innovative psychological novel; or for Black Lamb and Grey Falcon (1941), that grand bio-travelogue of Yugoslavia on the cusp of war. Her reports on the Nuremberg trials, and the post-war trials of British fascists, also continue to find readers, especially among students of journalism. West’s writings on Communism, by contrast, lie unread, unsung. Many of them sparked controversy in her own day, and are well worth revisiting in ours.

    In articles, book chapters, and book reviews spanning six decades, she returned to the allure of Communism for educated Westerners. (Its attraction for militant members of the industrial working class was no real puzzle, she said, not least because Marxism deified the proletariat.) Reviewing the second volume of Solzhenitsyn’s Gulag Archipelago for the Sunday Telegraph, West bitterly recalled that “25 years ago a large part of the Western European and American population of intellectuals were, with disgusting single-mindedness, pimping for Stalin.”

    Decrypting Communism’s appeal, West believed, required paying close attention to the lives of true believers, people such as Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, Klaus Fuchs, and Alan Nunn May, and also to ex-Communist apostates such as Arthur Koestler and Richard Wright. She drew portraits of them all. But no life to her was more fascinating, and perhaps more revealing, than that of Whittaker Chambers (1901–1961), the Communist, later ex-Communist, informer whose testimony sealed the doom of Alger Hiss. It was in the conduct and words of Chambers that West found a source of longing for Communism that transcended Chambers himself. The context of her discovery was a trial and a book that caused a sensation in early Cold War America.

  75. feelthebern

    Did someone say home schooling ?

  76. Leigh Lowe

    Minchin didn’t do the stitch-up. . What he did was jump to partisan conclusions without looking hard at the facts, and going for the support of others who had done the same. Many here do exactly that. Notaclue just agreed with you on that basis.

    I am not aware of anyone here being party to fixing a jury.

  77. Knuckle Dragger

    I’m seriously struggling to understand people’s bigotry in this day and age.

    Why can’t a tiny penis-lovin’ gay Chinese international student walk down a Melbourne street holding the hand of his escaped lab chimp? What is wrong with people?

    That’s not blood slavering from Chunky the Chimp’s jaws. He has gum disease.

  78. egg_

    Minchin didn’t do the stitch-up.

    He’s just a useful idiot.

  79. DrBeauGan

    I am not aware of anyone here being party to fixing a jury.

    I didn’t say that. But there’s only two differences between vicpol and some of you guys. 1. Different tribe. Same tribalism. And 2. Vicpol had the power to push their tribalism. You don’t. Thank God or whoever’s in charge.

  80. JC

    His ‘all class’ motherfucker song does make a legitimate point: why be appalled by words which are only noises or pixels, and give popes a pass on admitting homoxuals into the church and then trying to cope with some of them turning out to be p doze by covering it up?

    \

    Doc, how would and did they screen men before entering training for the priesthood? I very much doubt an interviewer would be asking an applicant if he was a pillow biter.

  81. egg_

    Left my wife to watch Turnbull on 7.30.I could not watch any further. He needs treatment. He really has no grasp on reality.

    TheirABC taking advantage of the aged and infirm spewing bile against colleagues?

  82. Overburdened

    KD 22:46

    You left out crippled

  83. NoFixedAddress

    I just looked up eMTee’s wicki page to get a piece of information and saw in his early life section he was born out of wedlock in 1954.

    I laughed and laughed and laughed.

    No wonder he spent his life proving his ‘establishment’ credentials.

    Apparently his parents were married 14 months after he was born.

    The poor ‘widdle’ eMTee mite.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_Turnbull

    https://www.orkin.com/other/mites

  84. JC

    Whichever way you want to look at this, Doc, the fact doesn’t change that the state, through the ABC, went after one person and attempted a modem day crucifixion. It was hideous.

  85. DrBeauGan

    Minchin didn’t do the stitch-up.

    He’s just a useful idiot.

    I don’t think he’s an idiot, Egg. I disagree with nearly all his opinions and despise his moral cowardice, but he’s far from stupid. Don’t underestimate the enemy.

  86. Overburdened

    It would have added to the ongoing saga

  87. feelthebern

    Apparently his parents were married 14 months after he was born.

    Of all the things to turd on the Turd about, that’s not really one of them.

  88. Lilliana

    International students should have enough funds to cover living expenses for the duration of their studies. Any employment should be supplementary.

  89. Bruce in WA

    Of course. none of us could attend.

    Which you all legitimized by agreeing to, and abiding by it.
    Sorry Bruce, but ultimately we create our own reality.

    Really. We stayed away out of respect for the (further) hurt it would have caused her family. Perhaps we should just said “Fuck you” and turned up??

  90. DrBeauGan

    Doc, how would and did they screen men before entering training for the priesthood? I very much doubt an interviewer would be asking an applicant if he was a pillow biter.

    It’s a hard problem but I think some are recognisable. Benedict and Pell tried with some success to exclude them. Which goes some way to explain the stitch-up.

    Whichever way you want to look at this, Doc, the fact doesn’t change that the state, through the ABC, went after one person and attempted a modem day crucifixion. It was hideous.

    I completely agree. See my last remark.

  91. NoFixedAddress

    A trip down an eMTEE lane

    In 1987, Turnbull established an investment banking firm, Whitlam Turnbull & Co Ltd, in partnership with Neville Wran, the former Labor Premier of New South Wales, and Nicholas Whitlam, the former Chief Executive of the State Bank of New South Wales and the son of former Labor Prime Minister Gough Whitlam. Whitlam parted company with the firm in 1990; it operated as Turnbull & Partners Ltd until 1997.

    Turnbull left the firm he co-founded in 1997 to become a managing director of Goldman Sachs Australia, eventually becoming a partner in Goldman Sachs and Co. Additionally, he worked as a director of Star Technology Systems from 1993 to 1995. During this time Turnbull was also the chairman of Axiom Forest Resources, which conducted logging in the Solomon Islands under the trading name Silvania Forest Products. The latter’s work was described by the Australian International Development Assistance Bureau as a “clear-felling operation”, and the then Solomon Islands Prime Minister Solomon Mamaloni reportedly threatened to close it down for “constant breaches of logging practices”, according to a critical article in the Solomon Times.[34][35]

    Turnbull purchased a stake in the internet service provider OzEmail in 1994 for $500,000. He sold this stake several months before the dot com bubble burst in 1999 for $57 million to then-telecommunications giant MCI Worldcom.[36]

    In May 2002, Turnbull appeared before the HIH Insurance royal commission to be questioned on Goldman Sachs’s involvement in the possible privatisation of one of the acquisitions of the collapsed insurance company. The Royal Commissioner’s report made no adverse findings against him or Goldman Sachs,[37] however, Turnbull was one of nine defendants who settled later litigation over the collapse in undisclosed payments, thought to be worth as much as $500m.[38]

  92. Leigh Lowe

    DrBeauGan

    #3421629, posted on April 20, 2020 at 10:54 pm

    I am not aware of anyone here being party to fixing a jury.

    I didn’t say that.

    You kind of did.
    But whilst we are on your subject of “blind tribalism” my critiques of ABC judicial fixing go back 20 years, on this forum and others, long before witness J started making shit up.
    So, yeah, tribal.
    I have you pegged BG.
    If you think the relatively mild take-down of the Cruise Queen was something … I can do better.
    Over to you.

  93. NoFixedAddress

    feelthebern
    #3421638, posted on April 20, 2020 at 10:59 pm

    Apparently his parents were married 14 months after he was born.

    Of all the things to turd on the Turd about, that’s not really one of them.

    Not even trying to feeltheburn and I’m sure that he or his minders curate his wiki entry.

    But given the times it must have left its mark on him.

    What was he like at Goldman Sachs?

  94. Leigh Lowe

    Lilliana

    #3421639, posted on April 20, 2020 at 11:00 pm

    International students should have enough funds to cover living expenses for the duration of their studies. Any employment should be supplementary.

    That is, in fact, a condition of student visas.

  95. Mitch M.

    Doc, how would and did they screen men before entering training for the priesthood? I very much doubt an interviewer would be asking an applicant if he was a pillow biter.

    They couldn’t do this in past decades, perhaps, but I’m sure someone could design some biomarker tests now. Have them watch various types of sexual encounters and start monitoring. Did Kinsey come up with something like that?

  96. JC

    Have them watch various types of sexual encounters and start monitoring.

    Really? You’re going to have applicants sit through a gay porn vid while assessing if they develop an hard on? You think that’s possible?

  97. NoFixedAddress

    Who was the Russian bloke that supposedly defected to the West and told how there was a deliberate campaign to encourage potential/actual peterfiles to join the Catholic Priesthood that had started in the 1950’s?

  98. Lazlo

    Helen,

    Empathetic, but dangerous stuff. You are sure to be smashed by the School Bullies.

  99. DrBeauGan

    My position on homos is very close to that of the Catholics, from a very different starting point. We use very different language, but the church says homosexuality is disorded, and I say they have had something go wrong with their brain wiring. The church says we should love the sinner and hate the sin. I say we should treat them decently but not pretend that there is nothing wrong with them. Functionally, these are very similar.

    Pell and Benedict saw the problem and took effective action, for which they get my respect. And the response was sick and spiteful from the offended. Combined with insanely anti-catholic bigotry in vicpol it led to what was done to Pell. It was vile and intolerable. No question.

    My feelings about Pell have changed after the blot interview. Pell impressed me with his character.

    But I see good in everybody given half a chance. Including Tim Minchin.

  100. Leo G

    the ABC, went after one person and attempted a modem day crucifixion

    Cross-platform, high-speed digital persecution?

  101. Lazlo

    JC:
    A modem day crucifixion is a bit 90s. It would be a NBN crucifixion nowadays?

  102. C.L.

    Been listening to Spanish virtuoso, the late Narciso Yepes – who made the 10-string a thing.
    “He is considered one of the finest virtuoso classical guitarists of the twentieth century.”
    Mind duly boggled …

  103. DrBeauGan

    If you think the relatively mild take-down of the Cruise Queen was something … I can do better.
    Over to you.

    I thought your take-downs quite funny. I think Lizzie must take you a lot more seriously than I do.

    If you want to be bitchy to me, I shan’t mind. I think you’d show a want of sense and a warped set of priorities if you thought it worth doing, but it’s your time.

  104. Arky

    Thanks for gaying up the blog:
    ..

    I have you pegged BG.

    ..

    have applicants sit through a gay porn vid while assessing if they develop an hard on

    ..

    My position on homos is very close

  105. JC

    Fucking Oil is US$10.82. This means that every single cup in the world able to hold a cup of oil. There’s not storage left.,

    Every oil producer is fucking deadsky.

  106. Leigh Lowe

    C.L.

    #3421655, posted on April 20, 2020 at 11:25 pm

    Been listening to Spanish virtuoso, the late Narciso Yepes – who made the 10-string a thing.
    “He is considered one of the finest virtuoso classical guitarists of the twentieth century.”

    Better than Keef?

  107. Arky

    If you lot have finished pegging each other, taking positions on top of homos and devising ways to measure stiffys during interviews, you might have noticed the world is fucked and there are important things to discuss.

  108. egg_

    The person who posted the Pope song with criticism of the lyrics (such as they are) is hardly a Catholic song and dance man. The opposite I would say.

    A glass jawed old “stalker”, Notabrain?
    Dripping with hypocrisy.
    That I’m no fan of Catholaxy is beyond dispute, however.

  109. JC

    Every oil producer is fucking deadsky.

    Country I mean.

  110. DrBeauGan

    Thanks for the Yepes, CL. Beautiful.

  111. Arky

    Every oil producer is fucking deadsky.

    ..
    The oil, gold, Coca Cola strategy in tatters.

  112. Howard Hill

    feelthebern
    #3421617, posted on April 20, 2020 at 10:46 pm

    Did someone say home schooling ?

    When I was a kid I spent a many years living in a caravan on the, Parmelia Pipeline and others. My old man was one of the head maintenance guys looking after all the heavy equipment. Most of the workers were Italian and Greek. That video reminded me of the times I spent on the line getting educated by people just like that. I didn’t learn any academic shit, but I never regretted the life skills those guys gave me.

  113. Arky

    You notice how this whole situation is doing people’s heads in?
    Folk who normally are full of bonhomie are terse and unpleasant.
    You can see it on the blog.
    For sure, there is always a vicious barney going on. But right now there is an extra edge to it.

  114. egg_

    The number two “bubble”,behind Canberra/ACT, and the original choice for the National Capital IIRC, has to be Melbourne, based on the hand wringers around here.
    I believe Qld Cats blame expat Victorians for their current Leftwing Govt woes.
    The Hunchback is the Premier you deserve.

  115. Bruce in WA

    Wonderful. Just had a phone call from my brother. Very distressed. He had family flights cancelled by Virgin, which gave him future flight credits. Now Virgin have gone under and he’s classed as an unsecured creditor. Tough shit yeah … but he’s not in a position to simply absorb that sort of loss. Along with some other shit in his life, I would classify him as suicidal at the moment. Very worried.

  116. Overburdened

    https://youtu.be/JuA04qe4Sos

    Shotokan

    Trying to maintain maai and demonstrate sanchin requires a lot of discipline so accidents happen.

    Probably too esoteric for some, and not my style either.

    Aka is more trad.

  117. JC

    The oil, gold, Coca Cola strategy in tatters.

    Hate gold, always have. But oil can be explained. There’s no fucking driving going on in the world and storage is brimming over with oil. It’s an enormous imbalance that should be okay in the next few months.

    Coke is fine. Americans at home will drink more coke.

  118. C.L.

    Better than Keef?

    Tough call …

    Yepes looks a bit like Milt.

    Seriously, the cleanness of his touch on every note.
    Just how?

  119. Lazlo

    No arky, the world begins and ends by how we relate to each other, personally, how we interact in trade and socially.

    Has ever been thus. How we create wealth and happiness.

    Long forgotten in these decadent times.

  120. Leigh Lowe

    Arky

    #3421668, posted on April 20, 2020 at 11:40 pm

    You notice how this whole situation is doing people’s heads in?
    Folk who normally are full of bonhomie are terse and unpleasant.
    You can see it on the blog.
    For sure, there is always a vicious barney going on. But right now there is an extra edge to it.

    Bullshit!
    You, me, in the carpark.
    Now!

  121. Overburdened

    As a traditionalist I do not condone the showboating of the bloke that won.

  122. JC

    Never in my wonderful , beautiful life did I think I’d ever see oil print 10 bucks again.

    You really want to be a oil ship owner. Those fuckers are making a fortune. An absolute fortune. I saw oil freight costing $US200,000 a day to hire a ship and hold oil. With the the oil price down here that lease rate must be near 300 hundi a day.

  123. DrBeauGan

    If you lot have finished pegging each other, taking positions on top of homos and devising ways to measure stiffys during interviews, you might have noticed the world is fucked and there are important things to discuss.

    True, Arky. The contemporary approved attitudes to poofs is part of politics correctness, an idea which originated in the Soviet Union, and which got exported with a heap of other bad ideas. It was our fault for not having stamped on them all a lot earlier. Some got here via French philosophers, which only got in because our universities, which used to be where ideas were examined and criticised, were wrecked by politicians who wanted them expanded to half the population. The politicians were aided by middle class mums and dads who wanted little Johnny to have a degree instead of acquiring a useful skill.

    It’s too late to reverse things now. We’re phukt

  124. Lazlo

    You are dead right Arky, there is an unpleasant edge. We need to get out of this in the next two weeks. There is no reason why not.

  125. Arky

    No arky, the world begins and ends by how we relate to each other, personally,

    ..
    I think there are different types.
    Some people are happier when things are going well, others once the shit hits the fan and they have to act.
    Me?
    When things are going well I’m worrying about all the things that could go wrong, and once things go wrong I’m still not having any fun.

  126. Howard Hill

    you might have noticed the world is fucked and there are important things to discuss.

    Nero fiddling while Rome burns?
    It’s really out of most people control, we’re being sabo’d by leftists all over the planet.

  127. JC

    Just get a load of the magnitude of the price jerks in the freight business.

    Cheaper to rent oil tanker than Ferrari – Business Insider
    http://www.businessinsider.com › cheaper-to-rent-oil-tanker-t…
    Jan 21, 2016 – Along with the stock market highs, the price of global shipping tanker rental has fallen — in this case by 92%.

    That was in 2015.

    It’s an interesting market – the oil freight business. Another useless stat to keep in your mind if you even need it. There are ~800 major oil tankers in the world today. That’s how we ship moil around the world.

  128. Leigh Lowe

    Seriously, the cleanness of his touch on every note.
    Just how?

    It’s called classical for a reason.
    Years ago I saw Slava Grivorian perform at Hamer Hall.
    One microphone.
    One guitar.
    Big hall.
    Nowhere to hide.
    Not a squeak or squawk of fingers on strings.
    Exquisite skills

  129. Infidel Tiger King

    These cheap oil prices must be great for the airline and cruise industry… wait a second…

  130. C.L.

    This will probably end up on the main page but here it is, folks – Trump nails the FBI leadership at a presser. Every word true. He’s really angry (watch till the end).

    https://twitter.com/BernardKerik/status/1252057057294979073

  131. NoFixedAddress

    Bruce in WA
    #3421670, posted on April 20, 2020 at 11:41 pm

    Wonderful. Just had a phone call from my brother. Very distressed.

    Bastard of a day Bruce.

    All the best for your brother.

  132. C.L.

    Slava Grivorian

    The Grigoryan brothers are fantastic. Freaks.

  133. Arky

    Why can’t they pump the oil back into some of the wells from the early days when it was easy to pump out?
    There must be huge empty underground reservoirs that could be used as storage. Like in the texas oil fields from the early 1900’s.
    Or do they fill up with water?

  134. Howard Hill

    The Hunchback is the Premier you deserve.

    I get a massive migraine trying to understand how that piece of crap was ever voted for and then I remember we have absolutely no opposition 🙁

  135. egg_

    We’re facing a worse Economic crisis than The Great Depression, on an Economics blog, and we have halwits slinging sh1t about a Pope and whether you’d allow your elderly parents take a cruise in September, and people are saying that Turnbull has no grip on reality?

    There were some bizarre panicking comments and predictions on the OT 50-odd days ago.

    Have we lost any Cats to CV-19?
    Any family?

  136. Infidel Tiger King

    Why can’t they pump the oil back into some of the wells from the early days when it was easy to pump out?
    There must be huge empty underground reservoirs that could be used as storage. Like in the texas oil fields from the early 1900’s.
    Or do they fill up with water?

    They could fill all the small businesses that will never reopen and hotel pools that will never be used again.

  137. NoFixedAddress

    One for the midnight hour with lyrics following

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKRJfIPiJGY

    White on white translucent black capes

    Back on the rack

    Bela Lugosi’s dead

    The bats have left the bell tower

    The victims have been bled

    Red velvet lines the black box

    Bela Lugosi’s dead

    Undead undead undead

    The virginal brides file past his tomb

    Strewn with time’s dead flowers

    Bereft in deathly bloom

    Alone in a darkened room

    The count

    Bela Logosi’s dead

    Undead undead undead

  138. JC

    Infidel Tiger King
    #3421684, posted on April 20, 2020 at 11:52 pm

    These cheap oil prices must be great for the airline and cruise industry… wait a second…

    It’s an unrealistic moment in the world. No one is winning in this. It’s 500 different dimensions – in other words, a total and complete fuckup. Not even the refineries can make money in this falling market. They always makes heaps of cash when the oil price thunders down, but in this scenario, it’s also bad for them because there’s no demand for the refined product. It’s an absolute mess. No one’s driving!

  139. Bruce in WA

    Thanks, NFA. Yes, not been my favourite day!

    I’ll keep in close touch with him; hopefully, he just needs to have sounding board to get it all off his chest.

    Thanks, again.

  140. JC

    Why can’t they pump the oil back into some of the wells from the early days when it was easy to pump out?
    There must be huge empty underground reservoirs that could be used as storage. Like in the texas oil fields from the early 1900’s.
    Or do they fill up with water?

    Dunno. I guess the easier places to hide the shit is in the super tankers. You need to then think where to put this shit when they’ve filled up – all 800 of them. 🙂

  141. Infidel Tiger King

    You not what should be illegal?

    Servos being able to advertise Unleaded 91 as their fuel price.

    Who even buys that shit these days?

  142. Arky

    Reservoirs
    Underground reservoirs are sometimes used as peaking storage locations for natural gas transmission and distribution systems. They are used to provide additional capacity at various locations where peak demand can exceed capability of existing pipelines to provide the necessary product at the required pressure levels. Typical compression equipment consists of both reciprocating and centrifugal compressors that are used to inject the gas into the storage formation and to boost the pressure during removal to meet pipeline pressure requirements.

    Typical storage facilities include depleted oil and gas reservoirs, depleted aquifers, underground salt caverns, etc. Natural gas can also be converted to liquefied natural gas (LNG) and stored in large, aboveground tanks.

    Underground storage by the numbers:


    Approximately 400 active storage facilities in 30 states, made up of depleted natural gas or oil fields (80%), depleted aquifers (10%), and salt caverns (10%).


    Approximately 20% of all natural gas consumed during the winter is supplied by underground storage.


    Underground storage capacity increased 18.2% between 2002 and 2014.


    Approximately 4 trillion cubic feet of natural gas can be stored underground, or enough to meet an average states residential natural gas consumption for more than 20 years.

  143. Infidel Tiger King

    You think the oil glut is bad, you should see how many unused ventilators we are going to be left with.

  144. JC

    Eggly

    Even the unemployment rate is unrealistically high, because it being forced by governments. Most people are on some sort of furlough. They aren’t jobless because there’s been an major financial crisis. It’s different, but it’s not without huge risk.

  145. Arky

    They should buy shit tonnes of oil from the saudis at $10 and pump it into old oil fields in Texas, for as long as this thing goes on.

  146. C.L.

    You think the oil glut is bad, you should see how many unused ventilators we are going to be left with.

    They’ll have to have one of those specified council clean-up days for them.
    Hospitals will have them out on the footpath.

  147. Leigh Lowe

    but in this scenario, it’s also bad for them because there’s no demand for the refined product. It’s an absolute mess. No one’s driving!

    Yep.
    Filled up three weeks ago.
    Still 7/8 full.
    And high end European cars like mine chew fuel, particularly when you are running red lights on the other side of the tracks.
    What?
    What I say?

  148. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger King

    #3421699, posted on April 21, 2020 at 12:00 am

    You not what should be illegal?

    Servos being able to advertise Unleaded 91 as their fuel price.

    Who even buys that shit these days?

    Well, my wife does.
    Wouldn’t bother me that much normally.
    Except we drive a diesel.

  149. JC

    This is broadly how you trade oil. You get a fix on a price for storage. It could be a super tanker, it could be a freaking toilet bowl. You get a price where the freight company offers you a lease rate for a few hours or minutes or seconds at a fixed price. You then buy the oil from a producer. If there’s no end buyer you sell the crap in the futures market with the full intention of delivery. I left out the cost of capital/funding here for ease.

    One really smart dude who ran freight trading for a major firm once told me that the only thing you do first before fixing any fucking price, whether it’s oil, coal , iron ore is the freight first as that shit can kill you.

  150. Mark A

    Not going to solve the problems of the world, but my lame pics may take your mind off them for a millisecond.

  151. Leigh Lowe

    Arky at midnight.
    Gas.
    You’re talking gas.
    It is physically possible with oil but requires a lot more energy to pump it in and pump it out.

  152. Mark A

    A yoke, may offend the ultra sensitive but I see nought wrong with it. I’m sure it’s an old one but first for me. (no old jokes, just old people, for a newborn every joke is new)

    A nun and a priest were crossing the Sahara desert on a camel. On the third day out, the camel suddenly dropped dead without warning.

    After dusting themselves off, the Nun and the Priest surveyed their situation. After a long period of silence, the Priest spoke.
    ‘Well, Sister, this looks pretty grim.’
    ‘I know, Father. In fact, I don’t think it likely that we can survive more than a day or two..’
    ‘I agree,’ says the Father. ‘Sister, since we are unlikely to make it out of here alive, would you do something for me?’

    ‘Anything, Father.’
    ‘I have never seen a woman’s breasts and I was wondering if I might see yours.’
    ‘Well, under the circumstances I don’t see that it would do any harm.’
    The Nun opened her habit and the Priest enjoyed the sight of her shapely breasts, commenting frequently on their beauty.

    ‘Father, could I ask something of you?’
    ‘Yes, Sister?’
    ‘I have never seen a man’s penis. Could I see yours?’
    ‘I suppose that would be OK,’ the Priest replied, lifted his robe, and almost immediately he was sporting a huge erection.

    ‘Sister, you know that if I insert this in the right place, it can give life.’
    ‘Is that true Father?’
    ‘Yes, it is, Sister.’

    ‘Oh Father, that’s wonderful … stick it in the camel and let’s get the fuck out of here!’

  153. egg_

    it’s not without huge risk.

    An understatement, if ever there was one.
    “Black starting” an Economy – with huge debts?
    The fact that few Economists are posting on the matter shows they have NFI – Accountants probably have a better idea, and they’re after the fact dullards.
    CFOs don’t run Companies, for a reason.

  154. Howard Hill

    I like this one, Mark. https://i.imgur.com/kjzhkbp.jpg
    Fooled me for a minute 🙂

  155. Mitch M.

    JC
    #3421648, posted on April 20, 2020 at 11:14 pm
    Have them watch various types of sexual encounters and start monitoring.

    Really? You’re going to have applicants sit through a gay porn vid while assessing if they develop an hard on? You think that’s possible?

    Arky
    #3421660, posted on April 20, 2020 at 11:34 pm
    If you lot have finished pegging each other, taking positions on top of homos and devising ways to measure stiffys during interviews, you might have noticed the world is fucked and there are important things to discuss

    .

    You don’t need to do that. There are other measures. It’s obviously important to the Catholic Church to find means and who are you to dictate what others should follow through on?

  156. JC

    and who are you to dictate what others should follow through on?

    Not me. However you mentioned those “sexolgists” and I think they came up with the stiff test. 🙂

  157. Zyconoclast

    Spread da word.
    Are the teachers unions aware that, if education can be delivered on-line, a future Conservative Government might deliver on-line education … from India?

    Crapping in the streets 101?

  158. JC

    Here’s a page showing the steepness of the curve for oil in the forward months.

    Spot delivery is US$ 10.75
    January 2o21 is $33.80

    It’s a massively steep curve suggesting the current problem is storage… and NO ONE IS FUCKING DRIVING!

    https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/future/crude%20oil%20-%20electronic

  159. Old School Conservative

    Even the unemployment rate is unrealistically high

    Dodgy too.
    In the mass of confusion about people not working, stood down, or on reduced hours I’ll wager the statistics don’t reflect reality.

  160. egg_

    I’ll wager the statistics don’t reflect reality.

    You’re on.

  161. JC

    @Jack has interesting background.

    Early life

    Dorsey was born and raised in St. Louis, Missouri,[9][10] the son of Tim and Marcia (née Smith) Dorsey.[11][12][13] He is of English, Irish, and Italian descent.[14] His father worked for a company that developed mass spectrometers and his mother was a homemaker.[15] He was raised Catholic, and his uncle is a Catholic priest in Cincinnati.[16] He attended the Catholic Bishop DuBourg High School. In his younger days, Dorsey worked occasionally as a fashion model.[17][18][19][20][21] By age fourteen, Dorsey had become interested in dispatch routing. Some of the open-source software he created in the area of dispatch logistics is still used by taxicab companies.[11] Dorsey attended the University of Missouri–Rolla for two-plus years (1995–97)[16] before transferring to New York University, but he dropped out in 1999,[22] one semester short of graduating.[16] He came up with the idea that he developed as Twitter while studying at NYU.[16][23]

    While working on dispatching as a programmer, Dorsey moved to California.[24][25] In 2000, Dorsey started his company in Oakland to dispatch couriers, taxis, and emergency services from the Web.[26] His other projects and ideas at this time included networks of medical devices and a “frictionless service market”.[26] In July 2000, building on dispatching[11] and inspired in part by LiveJournal and by AOL Instant Messenger, he had the idea for a Web-based realtime status/short message communication service.[26]

    When he first saw implementations of instant messaging, Dorsey wondered whether the software’s user status output could be shared easily among friends.[11] He approached Odeo, which at the time happened to be interested in text messaging.[11] Dorsey and Biz Stone decided that SMS text suited the status-message idea, and built a prototype of Twitter in about two weeks.[11] The idea attracted many users at Odeo and investment from Evan Williams,[11] who had left Google after selling Pyra Labs and Blogger.

    Personal life

    In 2012, Dorsey moved to the Sea Cliff neighborhood of San Francisco.[69] He walks five miles to work each morning and calls it a “very clearing time”.[70] He is a fan of Kendrick Lamar’s music[71] and of French radio station FIP.[72] In late 2017, Dorsey completed ten days of meditation known as Vipassanā taught by followers of S. N. Goenka.[73][74] Dorsey said he was “aware of the human rights atrocities” in Myanmar.[75] Dorsey has contributed financially to the campaigns of Democratic presidential candidates Tulsi Gabbard and Andrew Yang.[76]
    Philanthropy

    In March 2016, Dorsey fully funded about 600 Missouri public school projects registered at DonorsChoose.[77]

    In October 2019, Dorsey donated $350,000 to #TeamTrees, a nonprofit started by YouTuber MrBeast that pledged to plant 20 million trees by the end of 2019.[78][79]

    On April 7, 2020, Dorsey announced that he will move about $1 billion USD of his equity in Square, Inc., just under a third of his total wealth, to Start Small, LLC, and to relief programs related to the coronavirus.[80] He committed to funding Covid-19 relief, girls’ education and health, and universal basic income.[81]

  162. Arky

    a massively steep curve suggesting the current problem is storage…

    ..
    Backwardation.
    He said, having listened to too many Macro Voices podcasts.

  163. Zyconoclast

    NoFixedAddress
    #3421650, posted on April 20, 2020 at 11:18 pm
    Who was the Russian bloke that supposedly defected to the West and told how there was a deliberate campaign to encourage potential/actual peterfiles to join the Catholic Priesthood that had started in the 1950’s?

    Yuri Bezmenov warning to America

  164. Arky

    Some fields are much less capable of adjusting their pump rates than others. This is especially true of Russian fields, where temporary shutdowns pose the risk of them never being able to be revived at the same rates again.

    People are now talking about a $10 target for WTI. We’d argue that in a scenario where there’s literally nowhere to put oil, it’s not inconceivable prices could go negative.

    Such rates would indicate that permanent supply destruction — which might never be brought back again — was now going on. Which would be a big problem for the world if the same rate of economic activity as before was returned to post Covid-19.

    ..
    Financial times.
    ..
    Negative oil prices?

  165. JC

    Backwardation.
    He said, having listened to too many Macro Voices podcasts.

    And then:

    Arky
    #3421745, posted on April 21, 2020 at 12:59 am

    Contango, I meant.

    Zactly. I’ve told you before to forget those two terms as you’ll never remember which describes what. I can’t remember and it’s been several decades.

    Just use the terms.. positive and negative curves.

    And listen to me for a change.

  166. Bass Strait

    A birthday boy of Church St., Beaumaris has the most remarkable parents.

  167. Zatara

    Fucking Oil is US$10.82.

    Every oil producer is fucking deadsky.

    Nah. Some certainly are but it depends on how leveraged they are. Oilfield leases are selling for next to nothing right now as the weak sell them off to raise cash for mere survival.

    On the other hand the companies with strong cash balances are snapping them up like popcorn.

    So what appears to be happening is like the classic ‘market adjustment’ which shakes out the deadwood and reinforces the strong. The Exxons, BPs, Shells, etc. of the world are going to do just fine when this situation sorts out. The mom and pops though aren’t coming back without starting from scratch looking for drillable leases.

  168. Hay Stockard

    Crosstie,
    I never held a scerrick of regard for the AFP in the first place. Sorry if I did not make that clear.

  169. Hay Stockard

    Bloody History channel. Certainly time to get to bed. Apparently I have to save the country by getting up late, watching tv and drinking at home in the evening. Last year that would have made me a lazy bastard. Now I am one of many many heroically resisting a nasty bout of flu for the aggrandisement of of our beloved tyrannical leaders.
    Gia bless the People’s Democratic National Socialist Commonwealth.

  170. Feelthe bern:

    Where do the WA cops get off telling people they can’t stock up on booze?
    If someone wants to buy 10 bottles of JD or 20 cartons of beer, who’s business is it apart from the purchaser?

    It’s for your own good, Bernie.
    The sorting process at the Police Academies has been churning out these Social Justice Officers for at least a decade, now.
    The Police no longer derive their authority from the governed – they derive it from the Law.
    This makes me very angry.

  171. feelthebern

    Judge Dredd would be rolling in his grave.

  172. Nick:

    The future of the AFL’s multi-million-dollar sponsorship with Virgin Australia is clouded as the airline prepares to place itself into voluntary administration.

    The great unwinding.
    Creative destruction.

  173. Lilliana:

    International students should have enough funds to cover living expenses for the duration of their studies. Any employment should be supplementary.

    Correct.
    But having agreed to this condition, they want to reopen negotiations to get more free stuff. This is what happens with low trust societies. Your agreement to a solution to their problem is the starting point for the next demand and the demands never stop.
    When you negotiate it’s a sign of weakness and you will be exploited.

  174. Caveman

    Just watched oil hit $1.05 a barrel. Any empty swimming pools available.

  175. JC:

    You really want to be a oil ship owner. Those fuckers are making a fortune. An absolute fortune. I saw oil freight costing $US200,000 a day to hire a ship and hold oil. With the the oil price down here that lease rate must be near 300 hundi a day.

    Do we have the capacity to store some of the heavier grades of oil? I know we produce lots of light stuff, but now’s the time to fill up with the tar/bituminous grades.

  176. Zatara

    They are now officially giving away oil. A barrel of crude costs a negative $25.

  177. Caveman

    Negative oil, that’s a sickness that will filter through the world economy, equities next on the chopping block. All of this should well and truly flatten the curve. Mission accomplished.

  178. Nob

    Nobody can buy oil because all the storage capacity is full.

  179. Zatara

    Nobody can buy oil because all the storage capacity is full.

    US oil consumption per day has more than halved and their winter is about over. So that isn’t helping get rid of the surplus either.

    On the plus side, the oil tanker stock I bought during the last Iran hiccup is up %20 today.

  180. calli

    Don’t drink canned Prosecco.

    Someone needed to say this?

  181. rickw

    Real people with real jobs!

  182. calli

    I have witnessed many parents try to cope with the problems of getting their discipline the wrong way round: Spoiling small children and toddlers because they are still in the cute phase, then over compensating trying to pull it back in later.

    Are toddlers cute?

    No one told me.

    Did I miss out on some cloying joy of motherhood? I want my money back!

  183. rickw

    Oh crap, Tim Brooke-Taylor died:

  184. 132andBush

    Toddlers are like an old faithful tractor.
    Dirty, smelly, leaky, noisy.

    And a joy to have around.

  185. Real people with real jobs!

    Yep, like health workers, teachers, truck drivers, supermarket workers, baristas, garbage collectors, sewage maintenance staff, aged care workers, disability support workers and cleaners.
    Not so real – fund managers, solicitors, accountants, shock jocks, opinionistas, cricket and football commentators, car sales personnel and company directors.

  186. notafan

    I see I’m being demonised for asking a rhetorical question.

    Right eggtroll?

    It doesn’t matter that I’ve been suggesting for weeks that it’s time for Australia to go back to work while the vunerable continue to self isolate.

  187. Bruce of Newcastle

    Negative oil prices?

    Yup. I saw it just now and thought it was a typo:

    4:41 PM EDT 04/20/20
    $-17.92 USD -36.19 -198.08%

    That is minus $18/bbl on WTI futures, a fall of $36 on the day, which is 198%.
    Amazing.

  188. Knuckle Dragger

    I have a new life goal.

    I will hunt down all those responsible for making every Budget Direct Insurance TV ad, herd them into a pit full of honey badgers and take to the bleeding, screaming resultant mess with a flamethrower.

    God.

  189. It doesn’t matter that I’ve been suggesting for weeks that it’s time for Australia to go back to work while the vulnerable continue to self isolate.

    All the self-isolation in the world will make not a skerrick of difference if we lose control of the virus. Refer Italy, Spain and the USA.
    This lack of patience and discipline reminds me of my blue heeler preparing for her daily walk.
    She yodels and whimpers once I reach for her harness, and won’t stop until we’re actually out of the gate.
    “Time to go back to work” is a function of the data.

  190. notafan

    I didn’t look had at the facts 😂

    After several years of carefully reading and discussing all the evidence against Cardinal Pell that is in the public domain I’m just a partisan Catholic drbg?

    That is what you choose to see drbg because of your personal prejudices.

    On display

    Again.

  191. notafan

    You are wrong on the obvious facts nbers.

    There is no apples with apples comparison with Europe in Australia.

    Italy had massive spread pre lockdown while China was still lying through its teeth.

    It might also be argued that lockdown in the peculiar circumstances of European lifestyles had aggravated the virus spread.

    Now explain how those people in demographics that even in Europe are demonstrably not getting very sick and definitely not dying should not resume normal living?

  192. Knuckle Dragger

    Geez.

    Demand for energy has collapsed. Why did nobody in the halls of power see this coming as a natural consequence of stopping people going about their daily lives?

    You’d think, in this day and age they’d have had some sort of modelling process to predict this.

    Or if not computers, our genius fat kid lunchbox specialist doctor overlords would have thought about it. It’s really surprising because they put so much considered thought into banning golf., this should have been a piece of piss.

  193. notafan

    Of course all drbg is demonstrating is he is a true blue progressive who spouts the same bilge about why Catholics support Cardinal Pell as does the ABC.

  194. Knuckle Dragger

    If Toowoomba had a population of several million in the same space, there might be an argument for comparing northern Italy and this country. With multiple generations living in thousand year old houses.

    Of course, this would also have to result in several thousand deaths in Toowoomba alone.

  195. Top Ender

    Mayor says Gunner ‘trying to impose martial law’ in Tennant Creek

    SARAH MATTHEWS – NT News

    BARKLY Regional Council Mayor Steve Edgington has taken to Facebook to accuse Chief Minister Michael Gunner of “trying to impose martial law” in Tennant Creek.

    Mr Edgington, who is also the CLP candidate for Barkly for the upcoming Territory election, said Mr Gunner failed to deploy a promised 12 Police Auxiliary Licensing Inspectors (PALIs) to Tennant Creek, and that Australian Defence Force personnel and police officers were manning bottle shops instead. He said this was a sign of “the Chief Minister attempting to impose martial law in Tennant Creek”.

    “Yesterday was the last straw for many Tennant Creek residents who were confronted with Australian Defence Force (ADF) personnel positioned outside bottle shops with fully trained police officers,” the Facebook post said.

    “You made a promise that you would be honest, open and transparent so why are you misusing ADF resources and fully trained police officers by positioning them outside bottle shops in Tennant Creek instead of using PALIs?”

  196. Top Ender

    Well, tried three times to post an NT News article entitled:

    Mayor says Gunner ‘trying to impose martial law’ in Tennant Creek

    but each time it just disappears – not into moderation either.

    Apparently the ADF are giving the police there too much support,

  197. bespoke

    rickw
    #3421797, posted on April 21, 2020 at 6:24 am

    Cheers 😁

    Life is Good.

  198. Mater

    Now explain how those people in demographics that even in Europe are demonstrably not getting very sick and definitely not dying should not resume normal living?

    Shoosh, Notafan.

    When Bob says: “Time to go back to work” is a function of the data, what he really means is: “Capitalism has not yet been delivered it’s coup de grâce, we must wait a little longer”.

    I mean, seriously? The talk of “function of data” from a bloke who can’t work out what a half of a half is…93.1% of the time.

  199. Zatara

    This is bad:

    AOC doesn’t think so.

    Alexandrai Ocasio-Cortez
    @aoc

    You absolutely love to see it.

    This along with record low interest rates means it’s the right
    time for a worker-led, mass investment in green infrastructure
    to save our planet. *cough*

    That twatter post lasted less than 20 minutes before her handlers saw it and deleted it but the internet is forever. Her chances of holding on to that congressional seat just got much smaller.

  200. calli

    Just caught up with Maolcolm cracking the sads about their his part in his downfall.

    He needs to pay a visit to another ex-PM. Julia can help.

  201. Leigh Lowe

    Of course, this would also have to result in several thousand deaths in Toowoomba alone.

    But if it prevented one golf ball dint in one MX5 it would all be worth it.
    Or something.

  202. RobK

    Nobody can buy oil because all the storage capacity is full.
    Aeroplanes parked up and plant nurseries are going gang busters.
    Economic shake-down.

  203. notafan

    Oh and I suspect drbg rushing in to defend michin is a function of belonging to the same ‘old boys’ network.

  204. MemoryFault

    Demand for energy has collapsed. Why did nobody in the halls of power see this coming as a natural consequence of stopping people going about their daily lives?

    You’d think, in this day and age they’d have had some sort of modelling process to predict this.

    Good morning Knuckles.
    I see you answered your own question. Well done.

  205. Leigh Lowe

    I mean, seriously? The talk of “function of data” from a bloke who can’t work out what a half of a half is…93.1% of the time.

    And the answer to every question is 1969.
    Or $27,845.61.

  206. Mater

    Aeroplanes parked up and plant nurseries are going gang busters.

    Gotta have those houses and yards looking nice…for when they all go on the market shortly!

  207. calli

    plant nurseries are going gang busters.

    They sure are. The millennium drought saw off so many smaller, boutique producers. It has taken that long for the industry to re-build, with many closures and amalgamations. In addition, suburban creep has swallowed up businesses that were once in the city outskirts.

    This lockdown has had some really unforeseen positive effects.

  208. Leigh Lowe

    Wondering where all those newspaper clippings, drawing pins, corkboard and coloured yarn went?
    To a garden shed in Point Piper I think.

  209. Atoms for Peace

    Thanks for the Ladbrokes advice and US election betting. I reckon a few quid on the dems team was worth a flutter. Cuomo/M Obama was my pick

  210. RobK

    Gotta have those houses and yards looking nice…
    I think a lot of people are growing veggies, probably as much for hobby/therapy as anything else .

  211. Knuckle Dragger

    Top Ender,

    The dynamic in that shitfight of a town is that the mayor, who oscillates between who can give him the most ‘support’ in the next local government election has been firmly entrenched between the buttocks of a family that owns and runs the Tennant Creek Hotel and has done for several generations.

    That pub has been overly and covertly selling bulk quantities of piss to already smashed countrymen for years, right down to and including stacking uteloads of it and driving directly into the camps to sell at, naturally, hugely inflated prices. At the end of each day and night they shutter, bar and ram-raid proof their doors and watch the indig kill each other and burn the rest of the town, then claim it’s somebody else’s fault to clean up. Next day – same thing.

    The pub’s got several phone books’ thicknesses of breaches and complaints. The Licensing Commission is extremely reluctant to send any of its people anywhere near there because it’s 1000km away from Darwin, and the local cops routinely shut it down but get their reins pulled in by gummint and the AHA, of which that family is a large part.

    They’re routinely pinched by the local cops, and get the usual fuck all from the courts after they somehow manage to plead ‘financial hardship’.

    That frigging pub’s made so much money from selling tankerloads of loads to drunks that its owner, about nine years back left it in the hands of his two oldest dickhead sons while he bought one of the premium licensed premises at the Darwin Waterfront, which is itself a licence to print money. That premises is of course a bit more upmarket. No riff raff, and it lends the entire operation a cloak of legitimacy.

    And he bought it with cash.

    There’s a Norforce bloke in uniform standing out the front of the drive through with the cops, who are out the front of drive throughs down there anyway. The Norforce punters are from that country and speak to the prospective customers in language because the whitefellas can’t.

    This is the mayor’s ‘martial law’. A bit similar to the definition used by the other old fella who turns up here in between doona times.

  212. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Good morning Knuckles.
    I see you answered your own question. Well done.’

    Forgot to add that darn sarc tag again.

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