Monday Forum: April 20, 2020

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  1. Struth

    All the self-isolation in the world will make not a skerrick of difference if we lose control of the virus. Refer Italy, Spain and the USA.

    Your ignorance of the world is astounding, and even when we tell you, you refuse to learn.

    Who really were the retards at your school?

  2. Farmer Gez

    Not sure if it’s not updated but only 7 new cases in Australia yesterday. Give it a couple of hours and see if it holds.
    Negative oil prices. Sounds like farming to me.
    They’ll live.

  3. Ellie

    God I am pathetic. Grief and alcohol don’t mix well at all.

  4. Knuckle Dragger

    No new C19 imported cases in over a fortnight up here Gez.

    And no local transmission whatsoever. Unless, of course, all the locals have it and it hasn’t made a dent.

  5. Zatara

    If you think the negative price of oil is a big deal for the west consider what it potentially does to the economies of Russia, Saudi, Iran etc. who depend almost exclusively on it for GPD.

    So Mr Putin, still think that oil price war with the Saudis was a bright idea?

    Oh, and Mr Krugman, could you tell us your theory on ‘Peak Oil’ again? After you dust off your knob-l prize of course.

  6. calli

    Another day, another stoush Ellie. Someone said extroverts aren’t doing all that well atm. Keep punching on. 🙂

  7. MemoryFault

    Good morning Ellie.
    Sleep well?

  8. Ellie

    I fell over at some point. I have a big bruise on my thigh.

  9. calli

    Hellooooo, top of page.

  10. Top Ender

    Sounds like you know Tennant Creek well, Knuckles.

    I spent five days there once. Talk about a surreal existence.

  11. Struth

    Well, I’m getting things in place for Anzac day around here, but I can’t ask , so are you in or out?

    So god knows how this is going to go, but I’m sensing abject failure.
    Fear of the government and not wanting to stick their heads above the parapet by even sharing my missive on facebook, where only three of my friends shared it, who knows.
    The real fight was in the advertising of what we were to do, not so much in the action.

    Sky news people, even Outsiders never picked it up though it was sent to them , Cory, and many others never acknowledged it.
    I’m still going of course, but it’s soon in the hands of the gods………………………..
    You never know, and you’ve got to be in it to win it, and you have got to be able to live with yourself.

  12. Mater

    I think a lot of people are growing veggies, probably as much for hobby/therapy as anything else.

    I was being a little facetious, Rob, but only a little.
    If I could short the Australian housing market, I would. Watch it go after the six months of rental grace and JobKeeper ticks over…or whenever the government runs out of money.

  13. Farmer Gez

    Can the ABC get anything right?
    In Italy a fall in hospital admissions is raising hopes of a end in sight.
    The ABC claims Italy is Europe’s worst hit country, wrong again.
    Belgium takes that award.
    Italy cases per million 2997. Belgium 3450.
    Deaths: Italy 399. Belgium 503.
    Spain’s numbers are also significantly worse than Italy’s based on population, which is the only measure that’s remotely valid.

  14. Geriatric Mayfly

    The Greens are saying ‘Enough! We can’t keep up.” With the populace regulated down to within the last inch of their lives by central planning, the economy stagnated and energy consumption in free fall, this is just what we wanted. But not so fast. We haven’t had time to plan phase two.

  15. Ellie

    Peter – you have an axe in your head.

  16. RobK

    I was being a little facetious
    Yes. Growing your own veggies is rewarding because it is a defensive position when you have time on your hands. It actually points the same direction as your earlier comment.

  17. Eyrie

    Mrs Eyrie and I spent one Saturday night in Tennant Creek in 2012. I was warned by an Army Blackhawk pilot to give it a miss but didn’t take that to heart.
    A small Hiroshima sized nuclear weapon would fix it.

  18. Carpe Jugulum

    Well, I’m getting things in place for Anzac day around here, but I can’t ask , so are you in or out?

    I’m game, what’s the plan.

  19. Knuckle Dragger

    So I now have a Bernie 2020 coffee mug.

    Younger associate of mine plonked it on my desk (that I have when I’m not actually on the stand with Barry) last night just before knock off.

    There isn’t a lot of conversation about US politics, as we’ve generally got other stuff to do but I’ve used 45 as an example of what a bit of business sense and anti-establishmentarianism can do, as opposed to outright communism and relying on feelz to run a country of 320 million people, as well as the odd parallel to Straya.

    My associate is going to go and work in the Central Desert. Intelligent enough bloke, mid 30s, never seen a hard day though.

    ‘This is for you,’ he said. ‘I was wrong.’

  20. Ellie

    I’m in, Struth. Hyde Park, social distancing two-up with three friends.

  21. Knuckle Dragger

    Of course, what I should have said in reply was:

    ‘Good. Good. Let the hate flow through you.’ But I didn’t, because I was a) thinking about other stuff at the time, and b) transfixed by the beautiful ugliness of a Bernie 2020 coffee mug sitting on my desk.

    It is a trophy of war, like the bronze horse statues of Constantinople sitting in a museum in Austria.

  22. MemoryFault

    Good morning Calli.

    Further to your comments re nurseries:
    Granddaughter was doing a Cert III in Horticulture through high school. It involved one day a week at a local nursery for which she got paid. Three other girls were doing the same course. All budding Callis.

    When things collapsed the owner asked the girls if they would take a pay cut because things were tough. Three declined and dropped out. Now things are really firing, granddaughter is working four days a week, at a higher pay rate than ever! She is making over $700.00 a week.

    She gets her driver’s licence in a few week’s time – owner wants her to chuck school, work for him full time, continue with studies with him at higher level, and he’ll throw in the Mitsubishi van for out of hours personal use.

  23. Cassie of Sydney

    “calli
    #3421796, posted on April 21, 2020 at 6:18 am
    Don’t drink canned Prosecco.

    Someone needed to say this?

    Someone needed to comment on this?

  24. vr

    Listening to Trump’s presser. He should stop rambling…

  25. Who really were the retards at your school?

    Catallaxy in a nutshell.
    The worth of an individual (and a society) is best measured by how the most vulnerable in that society are valued.
    That message is fundamental to the Christian ethic.
    Routinely on this site, people with disabilities are devalued by the use of dismissive terminology.
    As my colleague, who has a daughter with severe disabilities, said the other day – “Your only is my everything“, when she was told that “only the old and disabled are at risk”.
    Compassion requires courage.
    There’s very little of either quality exhibited here.
    Fortunately, that’s the attitude of a minority, when you note the level of compassionate compliance evident in the Australian population during the current crisis.
    And it’s working.

  26. Cassie of Sydney

    “”So god knows how this is going to go, but I’m sensing abject failure.”

    You need more faith Struth.

  27. lotocoti

    If you’re looking for a diversion from all levels of government prepared to burn down the entire country if it means saving just one Miata owner, Dogs of Berlin isn’t too shabby.
    It’s got potatoes, kanakas and crooked kripos.
    Ossis who think they were better off with the NSDAP and the DDR.
    Leb, Turk and Croat gangs looting a progressive paradise.
    Cops faced with an ends justifies the means Endlösung.
    7/10

  28. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Compassion requires courage.’

    Ahem.

    ‘pompous
    /ˈpɒmpəs/

    adjective
    adjective: pompous
    1.
    affectedly grand, solemn, or self-important.’
    “a pompous ass who pretends he knows everything”

    Source: Tardictionary

  29. MemoryFault

    Peter – you have an axe in your head.

    Yes Ellie. It’s been there for a couple of weeks now.
    It’s symbolic of both the pleasure, and the pain, life sometimes brings us.
    In my case often caused by dark-haired women with bright, sparkling eyes.

    How’s the bruise? Did you put a warm compress on it?

  30. Ellie

    How’s the bruise? Did you put a warm compress on it?

    No. I fell into bed. Have another shocking hangover.

  31. Ellie

    How many extroverts will kill themselves during this forced isolation?

  32. Mater

    The medical newsletter distributed by a local medical practice reports that:

    “I was speaking to a Respiratory physician, who was telling me he has not seen any cases of lung cancer in about 2 weeks. He normally sees between 5-10 such cases a week. Unfortunately, we have not cured lung cancer but people who should be seeking help are not doing so.”

    When you multiply this by the total number of “Respiratory physicians” in this country, and by the total number of other specialists who deal with other potentially fatal illnesses, this is a mounting disaster.

    The butchers bill is coming, people.

  33. Knuckle Dragger

    How many won’t?

  34. MemoryFault

    Have another shocking hangover.

    A wise man once told me that the way to avoid hangovers is to make sure you eat something – anything – before you have too much to drink.

    Apparently even a piece of toast with fetta cheese on it ill do the trick.
    Just make sure you don’t fall over and bruise your thigh while making it.

  35. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘The butchers bill is coming, people.’

    But it’s saved just one life (of a comorbid 80 year old), so it’s worth it.

  36. Farmer Gez

    ABC now claiming the German success in fighting the virus is due to an early strict lockdown.
    Based on what?
    Cases per million Germany 1750. UK 1838.
    Deaths per million Germany 56. UK 243.
    Looks for all the world like a better medical health care system.

  37. bespoke

    1735099
    #3421882, posted on April 21, 2020 at 8:12 am

    Those who can, do; those who can’t, teach

    Not true even most of times but in your case it’s appropriate. I often fall short on who I want to be but I look to people that practice not preach.

  38. Knuckle Dragger

    Both my parents are pushing 80. Both have been crook off and on with varying ailments over the last 15 years, courtesy of actually having lived their lives.

    Their attitude is – well, we’ll keep away from others to a reasonable degree, but if it’s not this it’ll be something else in the next five years or so. Neither of them want to go whilst being jetstreamed full of oxygen with their family watching on Skype.

    If anyone – and I mean anyone – thinks they’re going to keep the old man from Mum’s bedside if she goes first, they have another think coming.

  39. Ellie

    How many won’t?

    That’s a much better way to see things.

  40. BorisG

    Best interview of this crisis from Trumps friend

  41. Ellie

    There’s smashed avocado and feta all over my kitchen bench.

  42. dopey

    “Pell supporter” is just a left/media ploy to suggest people would support Pell no matter what.

  43. MemoryFault

    Good morning Struth.

    Daughter in law spent some time yesterday checking out Brisbane social media sites.
    Apparently there are angry groups all over the city, planning protest Dawn Services.
    Now I wonder where they got that idea from?

    I think you may have started a quiet revolution, Struth. Well done.

  44. bespoke

    Knuckle Dragger
    #3421903, posted on April 21, 2020 at 8:30 am
    Both my parents are pushing 80. Both have been crook off and on with varying ailments over the last 15 years, courtesy of actually having lived their lives.

    My Mum (step) says ‘being old is not for the weak”.

  45. Ellie

    Huh?? A mass shooting in Canada! I need to Google it. How do you have a mass shooting in isolation?

  46. The rednecks in Kentucky are competing vigorously for Darwin awards.

  47. MemoryFault

    There’s smashed avocado and feta all over my kitchen bench.

    Probably would have been better on a piece of toast.
    I have heard it helps with hangovers – and bruised thighs too.

  48. Why does numbers post racist, nationalist crap he accuses everyone else of doing?

  49. Nick

    Pure comedy, from the statement by the ABC

    Journalists are not judges or juries. Their role is to objectively and impartially assess whether allegations are sufficiently credible to justify publication in the public interest. It is not to decide whether people are guilty of crimes. The ABC’s role is not to prosecute the case for or against Cardinal Pell and it has never done that.

  50. Boambee John

    Leigh Lowe
    #3421612, posted on April 20, 2020 at 10:45 pm
    Spread da word.
    Are the teachers unions aware that, if education can be delivered on-line, a future Conservative Government might deliver on-line education … from India?

    From my admittedly limited experience, some of the products of Indian education are much better educated than many Australian teachers.

  51. ryki

    The rednecks in Kentucky are competing vigorously for Darwin awards.

    The people in the US who all deserve Darwin awards are those who vote Democrat.

    The official figures (which can’t be wrong) shows definitively that voting Democrat is easily the most important factor in determining how many people die of COVID. In New York, the Democrat government and its medical system is actively trying to murder as many people as it possibly can.

    Voting Democrat should be banned as a public health risk and anybody who does it should be permanently quarantined.

    I assume you agree Numbers don’t you? It’s what the government data shows right?

  52. When the Government allocated the $130 billion or however many billions to job seeker etc did they also calculate the loss in revenue from GST as the shops gave up tying to stay open and the cars needed far less petrol upon which normally massive tax is paid?

    “Geez.

    Demand for energy has collapsed. Why did nobody in the halls of power see this coming as a natural consequence of stopping people going about their daily lives?”

  53. A nefrious individual may decide it is in the public interest to harmlessly verify that statement by the ABC by looking at the metadata of a few ABC journalists and parties involved in the case. Maybe that honourable magistrate was going for a job interview there at the ABC studios.

    I would not recommend such actions, I would never condone illegal activity.

    Tick tock
    #timesup

  54. Cassie of Sydney

    “Legalise Sedition
    #3421916, posted on April 21, 2020 at 8:39 am
    Why does numbers post racist, nationalist crap he accuses everyone else of doing?”

    Because he is a hypocrite.

  55. ryki

    some of the products of Indian education are much better educated than many Australian teachers.

    Are they hardcore communists?

    If no, that puts them at a significant advantage to 90% of teachers.

  56. MemoryFault

    some of the products of Indian education are much better educated than many Australian teachers.

    Good morning John,

    My cat Boofhead is better educated than many Australian teachers.
    And Boofhead is not very bright.

  57. Ellie

    I have heard it helps with hangovers – and bruised thighs too.

    Are you trying to attract our haters?

    There is so much I could say to that comment, but I won’t.

  58. Struth

    I’m game, what’s the plan.

    Are you in Australia?

  59. Bushkid

    Ellie
    #3421847, posted on April 21, 2020 at 7:48 am
    God I am pathetic. Grief and alcohol don’t mix well at all.

    Hardly pathetic, Ellie. We all cope how we have to cope, and grief has to be allowed to do what it does.

    For me, it’s mostly the music I shared with my Renaissance man the shatters me. It’s been just over a year now, and the wound just seems deeper than ever.

  60. Ellie

    Happy birthday to the Queen. Happy birthday to the Queen. Happy birthday dear Elizabeth. Happy birthday to you. 💖🤗

  61. dover_beach

    “Pell supporter” is just a left/media ploy to suggest people would support Pell no matter what.

    Indeed. Fr. Brennan was no ‘Pell supporter’ at any time. We also know that nearly all of Pell’s leading opponents in the media during the Pell Affair where prior to it also longstanding ideological opponents of Pell. What an amazing coincidence.

  62. I heard same comments from somebody who son in law was a respiratory Dr on north side of Brisbane. Many of those type of patients who would normally be in hospital are not as they cleared the hospitals waiting for the virus rush that did not happen.

    “The medical newsletter distributed by a local medical practice reports that:

    “I was speaking to a Respiratory physician, who was telling me he has not seen any cases of lung cancer in about 2 weeks. He normally sees between 5-10 such cases a week. Unfortunately, we have not cured lung cancer but people who should be seeking help are not doing so.”

    When you multiply this by the total number of “Respiratory physicians” in this country, and by the total number of other specialists who deal with other potentially fatal illnesses, this is a mounting disaster.

    The butchers bill is coming, people”

  63. Perfidious Albino

    My working theory (for VIC at least) is that ‘outdoor’ group gathering restrictions will miraculously be relaxed after Anzac Day but before May Day…

  64. Ellie

    For me, it’s mostly the music I shared with my Renaissance man the shatters me. It’s been just over a year now, and the wound just seems deeper than ever.

    Tears are falling. I’m so sorry for your loss, Bushkid. Xxx

  65. MemoryFault

    Why did nobody in the halls of power see this coming as a natural consequence of stopping people going about their daily lives?”

    You and Knuckles need to go spend some time in the Naughty Corner, comparing notes.
    Calli can show you the way. She is the Manager.

    Sometimes, just sometimes, it isn’t all down to “bungling and incompetence”.
    Sometimes what appears to be bungling and incompetence is actually exactly what was intended.

  66. Nick

    The ‘plight’ of International students will be the media’s new pet, blaming the Federal Government, without looking to where the trail also leads, greedy Universities.

  67. Nick

    Pell supporter” is just a left/media ploy to suggest people would support Pell no matter what.

    They get away with it. Imagine being able to dismiss an argument simply by saying that someone was an ABC supporter.

  68. calli

    Cassie of Sydney
    #3421877, posted on April 21, 2020 at 8:09 am
    “calli
    #3421796, posted on April 21, 2020 at 6:18 am
    Don’t drink canned Prosecco.

    Someone needed to say this?

    Someone needed to comment on this?

    Why, yes. Yes they did.

  69. Farmer Gez

    1735099
    #3421912, posted on April 21, 2020 at 8:37 am
    The rednecks in Kentucky are competing vigorously for Darwin awards.

    Them ol’ dumb rednecks have an infection and death rate five times less than the clever government people living in The District of Columbia.
    It’s all in the numbers, Numbers.

  70. Diogenes

    The butchers bill is coming, people”

    Are there any daily figures being released for suicides ?

    Last night on the news they made a big deal about Lifeline answering a call every few seconds and they were still unable to cope with the calls. Kids Helpline is also running at record numbers and they are struggling to cope with the demand.

  71. Des Deskperson

    Turnbull has labelled the renovation of the Lodge during the Abbott administration as a fiasco that sums up “everything that’s wrong with the unworldly culture of the public service”.

    https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/6728100/everything-thats-wrong-with-public-service-turnbull-on-lodge-renovation/?cs=14350

    Originally costed at $7 million, the renovations blew out to nearly $12 million. For $7 million, sez Turnbull, “you could have built an entirely new house of that size and had plenty of change left over.” According, again, to Turnbull, “There was no fixed-price contract entered into with the builder, no agreed design, the requirements and plans kept changing, and the architect, as he later told me himself, had limited experience in domestic architecture and had won the job because the Department of Finance esteemed his firm’s work on designing the AFP headquarters!’

    Then there’s the incident of the door. “Quite by accident I learned that my department was proposing to spend up to $10,000 on an architect to design the door. Now, all of the doors at The Lodge are the same design. So I pointed out we simply needed a joiner to make a copy of one of the existing doors.”

    I’m afraid that, prima facie, this all sounds plausible. He blames Peta Credlin, who he claims oversaw the project, although why Abbott’s office would have gotten deeply involved remains a mystery.

    And anyway, when it comes to the PM’s residence, Turnbull is more a man of the people. “Mr Turnbull said he would dearly liked to have stayed in the apartment he owned on the Kingston foreshore [where else?] when he became prime minister but had already copped criticism for not moving into Kirribilli House.”‘

  72. Nick

    Why, yes. Yes they did.

    Oh. I hope that wasn’t an attack, Calli.

  73. Boambee John

    Not so real – fund managers, solicitors, accountants, shock jocks, opinionistas, cricket and football commentators, car sales personnel

    Did the pelican not buy the MX 5?

  74. Geriatric Mayfly

    Journalists are not judges or juries. Their role is to objectively and impartially assess whether allegations are sufficiently credible to justify publication in the public interest. It is not to decide whether people are guilty of crimes. The ABC’s role is not to prosecute the case for or against Cardinal Pell and it has never done that.

    Has the Babylon Bee bought into this affair?

  75. Most international students are loaded so their parents can bail them out.

    If the unis really cared, they’d pay off their own accounts and even give them jobs – anywhere from cleaners to high paying white collar jobs.

    I would expect to the left would urge for free uni for citizens before subsidising scions of foreign capitalist running dogs but what they really want is a bigger pool for the unions to roll around on luke boars in a swamp.

    The universities themselves are the worst and most cynical.

    Tehan should cap Chancellor and VC salaries to double what most teaching and research professors are paid.

    We can’t accept corporatised greed, can we now!

  76. Bushkid

    Mater
    #3421894, posted on April 21, 2020 at 8:24 am
    ……
    The butchers bill is coming, people.

    That Mater, along with:

    BrettW
    #3421921, posted on April 21, 2020 at 8:44 am
    When the Government allocated the $130 billion or however many billions to job seeker etc did they also calculate the loss in revenue from GST as the shops gave up tying to stay open and the cars needed far less petrol upon which normally massive tax is paid?

    “Geez.

    Demand for energy has collapsed. Why did nobody in the halls of power see this coming as a natural consequence of stopping people going about their daily lives?”

    Makes one wonder if all the dreamers of the anti-human globalist climate-armageddon-mongers haven’t had this in mind all along. Has it all slotted into the lockdown of humans and ruin of businesses so smoothly by accident or design, or was that just an opportunity grabbed as it floated by? Did China expect/intend it would come out on top, or is it just hoping that might be the result? Did the UN “leaders” think they would? They’re certainly starting to make noises along those lines, pushing for global coordination in order to “manage the crisis”. That, of course, would only be the beginning.

    How this all plays out in the end is going to be “interesting”.

  77. Nick

    Then there’s the incident of the door. “Quite by accident I learned that my department was proposing to spend up to $10,000 on an architect to design the door. Now, all of the doors at The Lodge are the same design. So I pointed out we simply needed a joiner to make a copy of one of the existing doors.”

    I’m afraid that, prima facie, this all sounds plausible. He blames Peta Credlin, who he claims oversaw the project, although why Abbott’s office would have gotten deeply involved remains a mystery.

    That’s mean. He knows full well that’s how Government’s operate, yet the whole thing was Credlin’s fault. Nah.

  78. calli

    Oh. I hope that wasn’t an attack, Calli.

    No. Not a bit of it.

    The idea of tinned Prosecco made me chuckle. It was too good to leave in the night vault.

    It could reach Thermomix stature, given time.

  79. dover_beach

    Journalists are not judges or juries. Their role is to objectively and impartially assess whether allegations are sufficiently credible to justify publication in the public interest. It is not to decide whether people are guilty of crimes. The ABC’s role is not to prosecute the case for or against Cardinal Pell and it has never done that.

    Did Milligan ever speak to any of the opportunity witnesses before either devoting an entire 7.30 program to that allegation or publishing Cardinal? How can you assert that you’ve undertaken an objective or impartial assessment without having done so?

    Ferguson also pretended episode 3 of Revalation involved new allegations and yet they were discontinued or thrown out at commital and this wasn’t noted in the program.

  80. calli

    Credlin was on his staff for a time.

    Perhaps she frightened him.

  81. Dover

    Did Kidd or Wallington speak to her at all?

    J’accuse.

  82. Nick

    I’m teasing you Calli. We wouldn’t want other Cats to get the vapors

  83. woolfe

    I’m guessing our willy government is now selling our strategic oil reserves

  84. Boambee John

    Are they hardcore communists?

    Not the ones I know.

  85. Nick

    Perhaps she frightened him.

    How come it’s only Abbott who got the ‘afraid of a strong woman/misogyny’ wail, that’s part of the defensive playbook?

  86. MemoryFault

    How this all plays out in the end is going to be “interesting”.

    It will be easier to follow once you let go of the idea that China/ communism is behind it all, and look elsewhere for a root cause/ planning/ steering force.

  87. Dave in Marybrook

    “ABC probe ‘clears ABC of bias’: ABC”.
    Satire, indistinguishable from reality.

  88. Bushkid

    Thank you Ellie. It will be 13 months tomorrow. Life goes on, but of course it’s never the same. The memories are good, even if they bring tears. To feel loss, we have first to have loved. I’m glad to have had the love, even if ultimately it’s come at this cost. That’s how it is.

  89. Nick

    It is not to decide whether people are guilty of crimes. The ABC’s role is not to prosecute the case for or against Cardinal Pell and it has never done that.

    Two questions:
    1. What role did Milligan’s book play in the events that unfolded ?
    2. Who employed Milligan ?

  90. calli

    My little bottle of salts is hanging from the chatelaine, along with the scissors, awl and ivory dance card. The corset’s on tight, but not overly so.

    No chance of the vapours.

  91. If only a better data mining system existed before and during the GET PELL! saga.

    Forget the judiciary, there might be some interesting convos between the OPP and third parties.

  92. calli

    I enjoyed MV’s story of the granddaughter and the production nursery. That girl will go a long way. Probably have her face on tv in a lifestyle show. I’ve known a couple who went down that road.

  93. Nick

    My little bottle of salts is hanging from the chatelaine, along with the scissors, awl and ivory dance card. The corset’s on tight, but not overly so.

    No chance of the vapours.

    Excellent. Though the Cat may need to invest in a chaise lounge of sorts. Something behind a screen, so that one can sob but still hear what’s going on when feelings are hurt.

  94. 3. Who were Cain, Milligan, Jay, Kidd, Wallington, Waller… etc. all talking to?

    There was a faked phone tap used as evidence in a Wizard of Oz style show trial, so anyone’s guess is as good as mine.

  95. Geriatric Mayfly

    Milligan, Milligan. Quiet you people. Don’t you know she is resting.

  96. Farmer Gez

    Australia’s new cases for yesterday ending 6am.
    14
    No deaths recorded.

  97. Bushkid

    MemoryFault
    #3421963, posted on April 21, 2020 at 9:13 am

    That’s why I’m flying the kite, MF. Just who is driving all this, and is it deliberate and coordinated, or accidental and opportunistic? The desire to own us all has always been there, it’s just a matter of who is driving this particular bus.

  98. Struth

    Daughter in law spent some time yesterday checking out Brisbane social media sites.
    Apparently there are angry groups all over the city, planning protest Dawn Services.
    Now I wonder where they got that idea from?

    I think you may have started a quiet revolution, Struth. Well done.

    Who knows, but good to hear.

    Sometimes, just sometimes, it isn’t all down to “bungling and incompetence”.
    Sometimes what appears to be bungling and incompetence is actually exactly what was intended.

    How often have people called the Liberal party stupid, and this mob idiotic or that mob.

    These people are traitors.
    Our “swamp” have been trying to achieve this for years.
    Sco Mao is a U N boy, and some thought he may actually release us from the Paris agreement.
    Did no one note how aggressively Mr Nice Guy defended staying in?
    He won’t stop funding the WHO, a communist Controlled propaganda unit, stuffing caviar and bubblies
    It is easy to calculate overall deaths in all these places, dividing totals by month if you can’t find last year’s month by month figures and you find no increase.
    No increase in overall death.
    No increase in overall deaths.
    No increase in overall deaths.

    Um,
    No increase in overall deaths.

    So, I very much understand people wanting this virus to be lethal, because then you don’t have to face the very much worse reality of what is going on.
    It isn’t conspiracy theory.
    We, and many other countries have been run by the U/N and it’s corruption for years, no matter which political group was in power domestically.
    They have been in charge of council rules and law making for both levels of government ,for at least since Howard was in.
    And that is no conspiracy theory.
    That’s fact.
    It has ruined us industrially, socially, and exported that wealth to communist / socialist states.
    How does it gain control like this.
    The unelected senior bureaucrats of the nation, all raving lunatic lefties do all the U/N’s bidding and indeed, Australian left wing bureaucrats invent much of the global socialist policies now in place.
    There is no dumb going on here.
    There is plain old socialism and it’s desire for world domination going on here, and they’ve, to this point, pulled it off.

  99. The UN is just an interface for institutionalised socialism, struth.

    We’re not ruled by the UN, it consists of a cabal of socialists.

    John Howard was a socialist. He wasn’t forced to go along with this.

  100. Cardimona

    The thing that always amazes me about the God-Emperor’s pressers is the near-universal ignorance and viciousness of the assembled j’ismists, and their blatant and ugly partisanship.
    They seem to want to signal their virtue by setting the Great Man up with gotcha questions.
    They never seem to learn that he’s going to squash them like the insects they are, every single time.
    Sad.

  101. Bushkid

    Anyway, off out to strike a blow at the jungle that the garden has become. A bit like making your bed or tidying your room, if my garden is sorted, the world is in its place. And it grows things, something positive and life-affirming.

    I drop into the Cat every day, browse, scroll (and scroll!) and very occasionally comment. It’s a good window into the world, and there’s good humour, music and interesting stuff. Even Model A rebuilds.

  102. feelthebern

    Even though oil isn’t traded there, in honour of the WTI….

  103. Cardimona

    On the bright side, we’ve still got a couple of letters editors in Queensland who understand that there are alternate points of view and that their readership doesn’t need to be “protected” from them – the Gold Coast Bulletin’s being the best of them.
    The NT News is now the worst – I’ve been completely banned from there because their resident leftards got their feelz hurt.

    This was in the GCB today…

    The Editor

    Traffic congestion charts (Tomtom.com) for cities here and elsewhere show that people are sick of ridiculous, contrary, and conflicting “lockdown laws” and are taking back their freedom.

    Churches, sports and social groups are gathering – surreptitiously instead of openly, in order to avoid unwanted (and unnecessary) police attention.

    Many shopping precincts are busier than ever. Bunnings’ carparks have been packed. People simply prepare an excuse in case they’re intercepted.

    Coffee shop addicts go out for one day’s groceries, get the daily latte, and chill with their mates on the footpath instead of inside.

    It’s more than two weeks since so many of us shuffled through the disease-exchange polling stations for the Council elections.

    But still the infection rates don’t surge, our hospitals stand empty, and our casual nurses go without pay.

    The scary numbers from the US are from Democrat-controlled cities, and are artificially inflated to make President Trump look bad.

    Give it up, ScoMo; it’s over. We’ve been hoaxed on a global scale. By China and the UN’s WHO, with the usual globalists and socialists along for the ride.

    (180 words)

  104. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Cassie of Sydney
    #3421923, posted on April 21, 2020 at 8:44 am
    “Legalise Sedition
    #3421916, posted on April 21, 2020 at 8:39 am
    Why does numbers post racist, nationalist crap he accuses everyone else of doing?”

    Because he is a hypocrite

    Succinct!

  105. MemoryFault

    The memories are good, even if they bring tears.
    To feel loss, we have first to have loved.

    Wise words, Bushkid. Going on 15 months here, too.
    My life has moved on, and I have now met someone new that I also care deeply about.
    I would not have thought it possible, but it just happened.
    Nonetheless, I still think of Marilyn very day. I don’t think that will ever change.

  106. stackja

    Did X1 plan the Wuhan virus pandemic? WHO helped?

  107. Nick

    My life has moved on, and I have now met someone new that I also care deeply about.

    MV, have you guys actually met ?

  108. calli

    I’m trying to find a link, but thus morning Kerry Chant explained something that I did not understand about the “recovery” figures published the Dept of Health.

    Cases have a 3 week follow-up call. If recovered, they are taken off the stats. If not, they are scheduled for another call in two weeks time. I can only presume that this is why there are still historic “active” cases in my postcode area.

    It would be interesting to know if those who have recovered but haven’t received the call are out and about in the community and what the self isolation rules are.

  109. feelthebern

    So I now have a Bernie 2020 coffee mug.

    Hopefully it captured my good side.

  110. Nick

    It will be interesting to see what transpired in Peter V’s civil case against the ABC and then compare it to their response to the Pell case.

  111. MemoryFault

    Did WHO plan the Wuhan virus pandemic? X1 helped?

    FIFY Stackja.

  112. dopey

    Another line they try is ” High Court found there was not enough evidence.” That is, we all know he did it, just wasn’t enough evidence.

  113. Struth

    It is socialism, whether it goes under a different name, or the people doing this even think of themselves as socialists, IMHO
    Never give a public servant more brains than they show you.

    You’d have a miriad of useful idiots in our swamps believing world peace can only come from all of us under UN rule, like the Europeans with the EU.
    How can nation states trade with each other without being the same nation??????
    No shit, their brains , or lack thereof, work like that.
    We’ll stop all wars if we rid ourselves of nation states.
    Now are all these people socialists, even if they think they are not?
    Yes.
    Centralised government controlling the means of production.
    It’s a simplistic explanation because it is simple.

    Now, for there to be no nation states, means in our situation right now, no one needs to claim victory over us, and no one has to put up a flag.
    They don’t really have one to put up, but if they did, the closest would be the UN flag.

    It’s the flag of the anti western alliance of Lefties, tyrants and failed cultures.
    And the flag owned by some very rich psychopaths.
    You don’t need to be told anything and will be given your orders when they see fit.
    Look at the Berliners protesting and being carted away.

    The only country that can beat this is the States, because they have guns and the state governors know they do and Trump is in charge of the armed forces.
    We can still win, but I can’t see it happening without blood being spilled.

  114. feelthebern

    Speaking from experience, there is nothing better than being short an asset when it goes to zero.
    Speaking from experience, there is nothing worse than holding an asset when it goes to zero.

  115. feelthebern

    Another line they try is ” High Court found there was not enough evidence.” That is, we all know he did it, just wasn’t enough evidence.

    Civics needs to be taught from a very young age in this country.

  116. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Happy birthday to the Queen. Happy birthday to the Queen. Happy birthday dear Elizabeth. Happy birthday to you. 💖🤗

    🎂x94
    🇳🇿🇦🇺

  117. MemoryFault

    Has anybody noticed what is happening to overnight temperatures generally?
    And not just here, but in the NH as well, where it is Spring?

  118. Infidel Tiger King

    Hey, I see Fairfax have removed the foreign deaths from our total and we are back to 43!

  119. Northshore Redneck

    NSW Premier Gladys tells us kids at school 1 day per week until term 3, which starts July 20.

    Another 3 months of parents having to stay home instead of out working. WTF

    If teachers unions are so concerned about elderly teacher health, maybe they tap into this giant pool of younger underemployed / unemployed teachers that may jump at a job.

    Rabz the lot of nsw government

  120. Did the pelican not buy the MX 5?

    Bought privately, as are all my cars.
    And I’ve never bought a lemon, except for a brand new 2016 Ford Focus, which had a transmission which routinely shat itself.
    Sold it privately and bought a near new Kia privately.
    The Kia has six years of the seven year warranty left.
    My bride loves it.

  121. Nick

    Lol

    China has vowed to block any independent global review of its early handling of coronavirus, taking aim at Foreign Minister Marise Payne’s calls for one.

    Since the outbreak began, China has always acted in an open, transparent and responsible manner and taken a series of resolute, timely and forceful measures. It lost no time in reporting the outbreak to WHO, shared the genome sequence of the virus with other countries, and carried out international cooperation on epidemic prevention and control among experts of different countries, which has won plaudits from the international community.

    “We hope that the Australian side can treat this issue in an objective, scientific and scrupulous manner.

    “We hope that Australia will do more things to deepen China-Australia relations, enhance mutual trust and help epidemic prevention and control in both countries, rather than dancing to the tune of a certain country to hype up the situation.”

  122. Struth

    The UN is just an interface for institutionalised socialism, struth.

    No argument.
    But it’s where all these forces unite.
    Institutionalised Spanish socialism plans with institutionalised Australian socialism, and institutionalised British socialism plans with, etc etc etc and they’ve been doing it for year.
    Indigenous representatives, Aid foundations all anti western socialists as well, all of these groups down to solitary little Swedish girls get UN support and they use the falsehood of “International Law” to push global control, amongst many other ways.
    Dot, you know I get what you are saying, but for the ease of understanding, we must be able to put these groups located world wide under the banner they chose to congregate under, and use to destroy the west.
    The UN.

  123. Northshore Redneck

    NSW Premier Gladys tells us kids at school 1 day per week until term 3, which starts July 20.

    Another 3 months of parents having to stay home instead of out working. WTF

    If teachers unions are so concerned about elderly teacher health, maybe they tap into this giant pool of younger underemployed / unemployed teachers that may jump at a job.

    NSW government – rabz the lot of them

  124. Bar Beach Swimmer

    compassionate compliance

    Is leading the nation to “cheerful squalor”.

  125. Arky

    In the distant past when you could still get paid for oil, I made yet another stunningly correct prediction.
    Arkydamus strikes again:
    ..

    Arky
    #3421746, posted on April 21, 2020 at 1:00 am
    Such rates would indicate that permanent supply destruction — which might never be brought back again — was now going on. Which would be a big problem for the world if the same rate of economic activity as before was returned to post Covid-19.

    ..
    -Financial times.
    ..
    Negative oil prices?

  126. Infidel Tiger King

    Imagine if Australia had a strategic oil reserve we could fill?

  127. Happy birthday to the Queen.

    Which Queen?
    Queen?
    Weren’t they a rock group?
    And rock groups can have birthdays.
    In the case of Queen, it’s 18th July 1970, so it’s not them.
    I wonder who it could be.

  128. harrys on the boat

    Coal price is looking precarious, if iron ore drops Australia is finished.

  129. Arky

    Anyone remember EU butter mountains from the far, far ago past?
    Butter would be much more expensive to keep in storage for years on end than oil.
    Having to be kept refrigerated and all.
    But then, at that time the West still had an industrial base and could afford to store shit.

  130. Fair point old bean. Never let Howard, Abbott etc get away with their surrender to socialism.

    Anyone here should never again vote Liberal.

    I hope the populace joins us and rejects the four main parties.

    We need a reset and one term of being governed by crackpots is a price cheap enough to bear to eject forever the ALP, GRN and LNP cabal.

    The “crackpots” could not possibly be any worse! 🤣

  131. Roger

    Imagine if Australia had a strategic oil reserve we could fill?

    We do.

    It’s cunningly located in Texas & Louisiana.

  132. Institutionalised Spanish socialism plans with institutionalised Australian socialism,

    Lift your game.
    If you really worked at it, you could get sochulism into one sentence three times.

  133. notafan

    Dot
    That article I linked last night, various international students whinging was illuminating.

    Pakistani students who had sold their land to study in Australia.

    Others whose families had raised $120 to $150k to fund them.

    All utterly dependent on part time work to survive.

    They are anchor babies.

    Thousands of them

  134. jo

    Ellie
    #3421847, posted on April 21, 2020 at 7:48 am
    God I am pathetic. Grief and alcohol don’t mix well at all.

    Ellie, you’re not pathetic. Grief brings out many differing aspects of our psyche. How you deal with it is not easy. Everyone thinks the’re the only ones to experience the pain of loss in the manner in which it occurred. It is usually because we have had no control over the circumstances and if we did, the result the same. Yes alcohol doesn’t mix but only to excess. The same applies in any case. Getting smashed is not a means in its self under any conditions. Though I have tried. Take care.

  135. Struth

    Lift your game.
    If you really worked at it, you could get sochulism into one sentence three times.

    I did.

  136. notafan

    Numbers apparently has several mx5s in the garage.

    He’s a petrol head Greenie.

  137. Nick

    The NRL/Greenberg fracas is confusing. Fairfax/Nine has a fair bit of skin in the game, but this comment was interesting as it applies to the AFL

    Greenberg’s legacy? He kept the game ticking along, but the game will always do that on its own accord. He was accused of being “woke”, because he supported same-sex marriage, but his real misgivings were a lack of trust among key stakeholders.

  138. Gab

    Aren’t they all, Notafan. It’s always the case with commies – do as I say not as I do.

  139. Dr Faustus

    Another line they try is ” High Court found there was not enough evidence.” That is, we all know he did it, just wasn’t enough evidence.

    Similar behaviour to the ‘Great Wang, or Wong’ Controversy of 2014.

    Even after PUP Senator Dio Wang confirmed that his name was pronounced ‘wong’, as Christopher Pyne had, rather than ‘wang’, as Leigh Sales insisted – leftie pundits were still out there for the next week explaining that in fact it should be pronounced ‘waaarong’.

    Being Left means never having to admit it when you are stone-cold motherless wrong.

  140. Bar Beach Swimmer

    This is for you,’ he said. ‘I was wrong.

    And so a disciple goes forth…
    KD, a small light can start a big fire.

  141. bespoke

    1735099
    #3422008, posted on April 21, 2020 at 9:57 am
    Did the pelican not buy the MX 5?

    Bought privately, as are all my cars.
    And I’ve never bought a lemon, except for a brand new 2016 Ford Focus, which had a transmission which routinely shat itself.
    Sold it privately and bought a near new Kia privately.
    The Kia has six years of the seven year warranty left.

    Some logic in getting the previous owner to sort out factory defects and avoid new car tax defects but his compulsive need for noble spin just sad. Kind of like “I will never darken the halls of the RSL unless its to sell my book”.

  142. Mater

    And I’ve never bought a lemon, except for a brand new 2016 Ford Focus, which had a transmission which routinely shat itself.
    Sold it privately and bought a near new Kia privately.

    Did you let them know that they’d be in for continual gearbox trouble, or did you go ‘Jack’ on them too?

  143. Nick

    Dot
    That article I linked last night, various international students whinging was illuminating.

    It was. What was interesting was how people felt they were ‘owed’ something. Ordinary taxpayers shouldn’t have to fit the bill for decisions made by Universities and the Government, out of their own self interest.

  144. Nick

    Sold it privately

    Oh? For money? Surely he gave it away ?

  145. Struth

    The socialists of this world like to think there are different type of Socialists from other socialists, while indeed be they communists, or socialists, or rabid lefties, socialist used as a noun,or socialist used as an adjective, global socialist or national socialists, they are the very same old socialists all.

    Nine.
    Easy.

  146. bespoke

    Just worked out who the new Dot is, I’m slow.

  147. Mother Lode

    An interesting graphic as a reply to Milligan’s ABC post:

    https://twitter.com/tismdude/status/1252359795723563008/photo/1

    Reluctant as I am to quibble, it should not talk of Pell’s victim, but his accuser.

    Turns out there was no evidence of a victim because there was no evidence of a crime.

    The the comparison with Tits becomes more stark and accurate.

  148. Arky

    The Arkypocalypse is upon us.
    During the Arkypocalpse, please remain calm and cower cheerfully in place.
    Should you be approached by one of the four horsemen of the Arkypocalpse: Sparky, Death, Stupid or Debbie, adopt the brace position, switch on your devices and live tweet the gruesome demise.

  149. bespoke

    I got blocked on Firefox and my old names get shitcanned by the spambot.

  150. Infidel Tiger King

    Lifeline received 90,000 calls in March.

    The disaster is just beginning. We have destroyed the economy and society for a generation

  151. harrys on the boat

    Lifeline received 90,000 calls in March.

    Whats the usual number?

  152. Nick

    Lifeline received 90,000 calls in March.

    That’s just from the Cat.

  153. calli

    Are all the horses ridden by Karens? Bet they are.

  154. thefrollickingmole

    Moist & Turgid.

    Hes Gunna COOOOOM to the dead rednecks.
    COOOOOOM!
    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=coomer
    1735099
    #3421912, posted on April 21, 2020 at 8:37 am
    The rednecks in Kentucky are competing vigorously for Darwin awards.

  155. Tom

    …the four horsemen of the Arkypocalpse: Sparky, Death, Stupid or Debbie…

    Laughed out loud, Arky. Ta.

  156. H B Bear

    It’s cunningly located in Texas & Louisiana.

    That should confuse the Ch1nks when they tire of portfolio investment in Australia.

  157. Cardimona

    Albosleazy presser.
    Albo loves airlines.
    No mention of ebil debbil-debbil carbons.

  158. Infidel Tiger King

    57% increase in calls.

    Can’t wait to see the suicide stats over the next few years.

  159. calli

    Oh. I see.

    The horses are all mares. Named Karen.

  160. Struth

    Sold it privately

    Now do you think he took in the socio-economic situation of the buyer, the position on the victimhood ladder, the “inequalidee” between himself, a privileged white male, and the buyer, whether they identified as indigenous etc, or just flogged it for us much as he could get?

  161. Numbers apparently has several mx5s in the garage.

    Only one, but I’ve owned three over the years.

    Did you let them know that they’d be in for continual gearbox trouble, or did you go ‘Jack’ on them too?

    I kept every document relating to the car, including the nil invoices for two new clutches and one new half shaft, and made them available to prospective buyers.
    The bugs had been ironed out by the time I sold it, and it was probably a good buy at the discounted rate these cars were going for at the time.
    The new owner lives a block away, and he’s very happy with the car.

    This blog provides endless examples of projection.

  162. feelthebern

    My bride loves it.

    Your Viet one?
    Or the one you force to buy the groceries?

  163. Behold, I heard a voice say “I want to speak to the manager!”, for she was the Karen of r/choosingbeggars. Behold, she said “a week’s wages for my kiiiiiiids off the ex-husband whom truly, roooly is the devil, and don’t spare a new PS5, can I have it, for freeeeee?”

    Then the sixth blogger of the series of tubes broke it’s seal.

  164. Johno

    I have decided to replace the decking on my outdoor entertainment area. 64 square metres, a cupla thousand screws, a wrecking bar,new drill,and in my own time. Ain’t life grand? What is the best,paint or oil?

  165. four horsemen of the Arkypocalpse
    and the seven seals.

    Don’t much about this, but I’m guessing that fur seals are one of the seven.

  166. harrys on the boat

    Lifeline normally gets 2200 a day so its a 50% increase. That’s just lifeline.

  167. JC

    The June contract for West Texas Intermediate futures, considered the benchmark for U.S. crude prices, dropped 18% to $20.43 a barrel. Brent crude oil, the global benchmark, fell 8.9% to $25.57 a barrel.

    But the fall was more severe for the front-month May contract, which made history by plunging into negative territory in the afternoon, a first in oil-futures-market data going back to 1983. It ended the day at minus-$37.63 a barrel, highlighting the dilemma facing energy companies. Producers in some parts of the world have to pay buyers to take oil away or store it.

    This is what lack of storage does and NONE DRIVING.

  168. Arky

    Remember: We are all in the Arkypocalpse together.
    Should one of your neighbours be too fat, stupid or surly to feed or care for themselves during this time, please dob them into Arky- force.
    An Arky- Force team will be around with the mandated PPE: Tongs, pepper spray and galoshes, to apply the appropriate amount of care, with the required amount of violence.

  169. notafan

    Do you mean only one, at the moment, or only one at a time always?

  170. thefrollickingmole

    The Arkypocalypse is upon us.

    Don t listen to him, I have a jack Chick tract to show you he true ending.
    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2d/e5/19/2de519a63cb571d009c8e39dc1ea537d.gif

    Bloody heretic.

  171. Diogenes

    57% increase in calls.

    Can’t wait to see the suicide stats over the next few years.

    Kids Helpline was up by 40%.

  172. bespoke

    Nick
    #3422045, posted on April 21, 2020 at 10:21 am
    Lifeline received 90,000 calls in March.

    That’s just from the Cat.

    LOL!

  173. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Kids charged with Carnarvon war memorial damage days out from Anzac Day
    AAP
    April 20, 2020 12:34PM
    Topics
    WA News

    Days out from Anzac Day, four children who allegedly vandalised a war memorial in Carnarvon are facing criminal charges.

    Police say a 13-year-old boy and three girls aged 11, 12 and 15 were seen climbing on the cenotaph on Sunday night and leaving graffiti marks.

    They attempted to flee but were eventually found and will be charged by summons with criminal damage.

    WA Police said two local officers, one of whom was a returned serviceman, had gone back to the memorial and started cleaning away the graffiti.

    “The attending officers decided there was no way such disrespectful images were going to be left on such an important memorial, especially just days out from Anzac Day,” senior sergeant Jayd Morawski said.

    “But we were soooo bored….”

  174. Cardimona

    Labor-union policy is to nationalise Virgin by buying out its Asian and m/e owners.
    Because workers.
    And families.

  175. calli

    Oil. Lots of oil. And please screw in the decking ridge side down.

    And if you’re using treated pine, seal all the cut ends. Amazing how few people do, then whinge about splitting and rot.

  176. bespoke

    An Arky- Force team will be around with the mandated PPE: Tongs, pepper spray and galoshes, to apply the appropriate amount of care, with the required amount of violence.

    In what car?

  177. thefrollickingmole

    Custard might be able to confirm, but when the old man was selling cars the most group think group were teachers.
    Probably the most stereotypical group (apart from priests/nuns who were guaranteed to prang whatever they brought within a month)
    Very conformist little clique.

  178. MemoryFault

    57% increase in calls.
    Kids Helpline was up by 40%.

    Ah, but at least we reduced the number of people testing positive to the dreaded, undeadly moronvirus. That’s the important thing. Just ask Numbers.

  179. bespoke

    Labor-union policy is to nationalise Virgin by buying out its Asian and m/e owners.

    Same plan is being proposed for South African airways.

    Funny that.

  180. calli

    Arky-Force team on a mercy dash

  181. Cardimona

    Albosleazy also reckons taxpayers buying Virgin is vital to the workers’ identities.

    FMD…

  182. Struth

    bespoke

    I got blocked on Firefox and my old names get shitcanned by the spambot.

    I don’t even know how I knew it was you but I did.
    That’s sort of sad, really.

  183. Old School Conservative

    calli
    #3421956, posted on April 21, 2020 at 9:07 am
    Credlin was on his staff for a time.
    Perhaps she frightened him.

    Yes. That’s exactly what came through in the Kenney/Credlin interview last night.
    For all the criticism she cops, she was very classy in deflecting Kenney’s insistence she slam Turnbull for his “Abbott-Credlin affair” reference in his book.

  184. Overburdened

    Water like a bath and crystal clear.

    Absolute glassy conditions and very small but fun waves.

    No people.

    Bloody yay.

  185. Mindfree

    Nick at 9:57

    Where did you get that shite from?

  186. Overburdened

    Former PM Abbott names former PM Trumbull’s comments as odious.

    Undignified all round, and one has trouble arguing with the statement.

  187. Overburdened

    The one thing that is certain with personality disordered people such as Turnbull is that they do not stop and constantly escalate.

  188. johanna

    The stupid, it burns:

    Victoria’s Chief Health Officer says eliminating coronavirus across Australia is possible if testing is ramped up to include everyone, regardless of symptoms.

    Victoria’s Chief Health Officer Brett Sutton told ABC Radio Melbourne seven more cases of coronavirus were confirmed overnight in the state, and that low numbers of new infections across the nation indicated Australia was on its way to zero cases.

    “I think we’ve done enough to get to where we’re at. We’ve gone earlier than most countries with comparable rates anywhere in the world and I think that’s why we’re in the position we’re in,” Professor Sutton said.

    He said in comparison to New Zealand “we’re very much on the same pathway”.

    “Elimination is actually a viable option for us here in Australia so I wouldn’t rule it out in terms of being in as optimistic position as New Zealand.”
    Vic COVID-19 snapshot

    Confirmed cases so far: 1,329
    Deaths: 15
    Suspected community transmissions: 136
    Cases in hospital: 28
    Intensive care patients: 11
    Recovered patients: 1,196
    Tests carried out: More than 86,000

    He said elimination would only be possible if testing was expanded to people without symptoms.

    “I think there are lots of complexities with eliminations. It does mean having zero cases across the entire country. It would need a surveillance system which would mean no cases of transmission anywhere,” he said.

    So, you overpaid eejit, how are you going to stop it coming in from overseas forever? Tourists, business travellers, students – are you going to seal up the country for good? Like North Korea?

    And don’t you love the bit about the need for ‘surveillance.’

    One thing we have learned recently is that the public health sector is choc a bloc with morons like this guy. Not a lick of common sense between them, and totalitarian inclinations galore.

  189. harrys on the boat

    The governments reliance on fuel excise and taxing oil producers. Gone. With a negative oil price won’t the government have to be paying out?

  190. egg_

    NEU FREDEN =============>

  191. Dr Faustus

    Arky
    #3421746, posted on April 21, 2020 at 1:00 am
    Such rates would indicate that permanent supply destruction — which might never be brought back again — was now going on. Which would be a big problem for the world if the same rate of economic activity as before was returned to post Covid-19.

    Uncanny.
    The sudden negative pricing appears to be due to commodity traders shaking off risk. But big players are certainly taking the pineapple and paying to avoid having to shut in production because most big and unconventional reservoirs will be badly fucked up by uncontrolled water flooding/movement. Smaller producers who can’t live with that strategy have already thrown in the towel and shut in.

    Another couple of weeks and storage won’t be available at any non-fantasy price.

    On the other side, get ready for US$150+/bbl oil, spiking $200++ on rumour, lasting for several years as producers struggle to bring production back on. Plus major disturbances in the debt and equity markets as reserve books are seriously marked down due to reservoir impairment.

    Short-term it’s costing a lot more than Saudi Arabia and Russia expected, but the long-term effect might be what they wanted.

  192. Boambee John

    notafan
    #3422027, posted on April 21, 2020 at 10:08 am
    Numbers apparently has several mx5s in the garage.

    He’s a petrol head Greenie.

    Show some sumpathy.

    Some (but not all) men find their manopause very distressing. They need toys to comfort them.

  193. amortiser

    Huh?? A mass shooting in Canada! I need to Google it. How do you have a mass shooting in isolation?

    I heard the report yesterday. 16 dead in Nova Scotia, Canada.

    The media were interviewing a spokesman from the RCMC who was saying they were making enquiries as to what motivated the shooter.

    Now I might be wrong here but there was no pile on about those remarks.

    When Bettina Arndt and the copper in Queensland made similar remarks regarding a domestic violence atrocity there was a God almighty pile on with the copper being removed from the case and Arndt being condemned in a motion by the senate.

    What is the difference here?

  194. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Which Queen?
    Queen?
    Weren’t they a rock group?
    And rock groups can have birthdays.
    In the case of Queen, it’s 18th July 1970, so it’s not them.
    I wonder who it could be

    For some, aging can bring on a physical and mental decline. Short term memory loss, the result of brain degeneration, is quite difficult to deal with. In such cases, what is happening at this very moment is almost instantly forgotten. Yet the memories of decades past are vivid in the waking life of the subject.

    Therapeutic strategies to ameliorate the stress brought about by the confusion that arises when the subject is unexpectedly brought back into the present, may include setting up their care facility to resemble a happy, earlier time.

    Such a time would be one that keeps calling them back – for example, think about erecting a bus stop in the garden for the subject to re-enact his bus expedition to that memorable movie with his charges in tow. That seems to have been a high point in his life!

    However, always keep in mind that in engaging the subject in conversation may provide further insight, be mindful not to have him mentally wander too much, otherwise too much fixated rehashing may be brought on.

  195. egg_

    The Arkypocalypse is upon us.

    That’s what you were saying 50 days ago.
    No dead Cats, yet?
    War with China?
    /Why do I bother

  196. egg_

    The stupid, it burns:

    Victoria’s Chief Health Officer says

    The rest is redundant.

  197. Nob:

    Nobody can buy oil because all the storage capacity is full.

    Not quite, although your point is valid.
    The clearing rate of the final product to the final consumer is still high. Diesel is ranging $1.35 to $1.53 at Barcaldine. Until this moves way down to the clearance price, the fuel market will remain constipated.
    How many of the farmers/manufacturers/households/small businesses would like to buy enough to provide a buffer for when the prices go up?
    Calli, would you like to fill up your storage, Farmer Gez, how much storage do you have on your farm, and wouldn’t you just love to buy a top up @50c/l?
    We actually have a lot of storage at service stations, but the government refuses to have a tax holiday.
    It’s raining soup and the bureaucracy has banned buckets.

  198. egg_

    Custard might be able to confirm, but when the old man was selling cars the most group think group were teachers.
    Probably the most stereotypical group (apart from priests/nuns who were guaranteed to prang whatever they brought within a month*)

    A majority female herd.

    *Ted Bullpit was right?

  199. Farmer Gez

    While our clowns can see nothing but medical issues, Prime Minister Modi has had to let Indian farm workers back on the job.
    Our friends in India tell us food is becoming harder to obtain. It’s a case of starvation versus a very bad flu.
    Stark choices and nobody in India uses the ‘save lives’ crap Dan Andrews spouts.

    Grain markets are very finicky at the moment. There is a distinct possibility that the peak of the economic pandemic will cause a general collapse of markets and money will be left lying around everywhere.

  200. BrettW:

    Demand for energy has collapsed. Why did nobody in the halls of power see this coming as a natural consequence of stopping people going about their daily lives?”

    I may have said something along these lines in the past…

  201. Nick:

    Pell supporter” is just a left/media ploy to suggest people would support Pell no matter what.

    “Chocolate drop eyes supporter” has a decidedly homoerotic flavour to it.

  202. egg_

    Arky
    #3362776, posted on March 18, 2020 at 8:33 pm
    There go my gigs.
    ..
    six fucking deaths

    ..
    How many deaths are required to make it worth you missing a gig?
    Genuine question, not a “think of the grannies”.
    Put an actual number on it, where you would go: Yeah, fair enough, I’ll do without the gig money for a few weeks?

    Call Lifeline

  203. egg_

    Stark choices and nobody in India uses the ‘save lives’ crap Dan Andrews spouts.

    First World problems – dragging us down to Veneztralia.

  204. twostix

    Eisenhower’s “military industrial complex” speech is almost a trope on the Internet now. Leftwing goons who have never read the speech quote the phrase and lean on the status of the origin of as if it were said in the Holy Bible. Entire dumb movies have been made around the concept.

    What’s strange though, is that none ever mentions Eisenhowers warnings in literally the very next paragraphs…

    In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers.

    The prospect of domination of the nation’s scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present and is gravely to be regarded. Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientifictechnological elite.

    It is the task of statesmanship to mold, to balance, and to integrate these and other forces, new and old, within the principles of our democratic system — ever aiming toward the supreme goals of our free society.

    Today, Victoria’s “Chief Medical Officer”: “

    “I think there are lots of complexities with eliminations. It does mean having zero cases across the entire country. It would need a surveillance system which would mean no cases of transmission anywhere,” he said.”

  205. rickw

    Victoria’s Chief Health Officer says

    When did I vote to have this fucktard put in charge of my health?

  206. EvilElvis

    One bonus of the oil glut in these times means tar and feathering should be a relatively cheap pastime post Arkypocolypse.

  207. Kev

    Johno,

    Did a deck for middle child recently and discovered the Camo tool. Works a treat, makes screwing easier and enhances the end result. Available at Bunnings
    See video
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMYXC7TmhDw

    I used Merbau and oil. Oil is easier to apply, lasts better and enhances the natural grain of the timber.

  208. Eyrie

    You’d think at negative oil prices our rocket scientists running the country would buy as much as they could and fill every storage there is. We have shut down refineries. They must have tanks. A pal of mine a few weeks ago phoned me from Albany WA. There were two large storage tanks 300 meters from him that were built during WW2. Reinforced concrete. A couple of decades ago or so the new owners of the land wanted them demolished. Called in contractor. Contractor took a look and said, don’t bother to try. They are still there.

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