Wednesday Forum: April 22, 2020

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  1. Atoms for Peace

    Cough sniffle. Shite..another 3 weeks in lockdown for Austraya

  2. Boambee John

    Just missed the podium. Should have stopped the painting job earlier!

  3. Nick

    Just when we get on a roll lol.

  4. I’ll post here for Winston.

    Nilk:

    Grief is none of those. It’s anger, devastation and emptiness. It’s pain that washes over you until you can’t breathe and you end up blocking out days at a time and refusing to hold them in your memories. It’s wanting to punch people who smile at you, because they can’t see that your world has crashed.

    Not everyone sees it the same – all in our family felt it was just another abandonment. We’d – sort of – become used to it.
    Meh.

    True, and feeling abandoned is just as harsh. Probably moreso, to me. 🙁

  5. Diogenes

    Surf has gone in strike.
    Flat as today, water still around 20 and crystal clear.

    Great surf here, and for the first time in weeks coal ships from Norah Head as far as one could see towards Newcastle

  6. Tim Neilson

    Cough sniffle. Shite..another 3 weeks in lockdown for Austraya

    Probably more like 3 years for CFMEUistan.

    Can anyone see the Hunchback of Spring Street NOT extending the lockdown repeatedly?

  7. Overburdened

    It is a magnificent day

  8. Quicksilver pricing must be negative, the way the Doomlord goes through it…

  9. harrys on the boat

    2 cases in Victoria, but they deducted 2 off the tally (contracted interstate), so zero and 29 in hospital.

    Economy destroyed over that.

  10. harrys on the boat

    It doesn’t bear thinking about what this country would be like if we had the UK’s numbers.

  11. So Berejiklian has a bullshit presser about how important going to school is.

    Clearly they want herd immunity and they also want the trappings of power that go along with an attempt to eradicate the virus.

    But we’re told they want to eradicate the virus and we should be thankful to their kindness.

    This is Kafkaesque.

  12. Zyconoclast

    Geriatric Mayfly
    #3423544, posted on April 22, 2020 at 10:02 am
    Presuming someone has flicked through it. Is there any justification in the book for that Itfar dinner he put on for the Mozzies, and the fact that there was in attendance an individual of low character.

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=malcom+turnbull+iftar+dinner&t=braveed&iax=images&ia=images

  13. rickw

    It doesn’t bear thinking about what this country would be like if we had the UK’s numbers.

    Dickhead Dan would have Vicpol shooting people dead in the street, “at least they didn’t die of COVID – 19”.

  14. Harry you are right about the budget.

    What I said was based just on the spending.

    There could be another 80 bn of debt alone by excise shortfall, restaurant closures and other workers not paying income tax.

    I’d say a 250 bn AUD blowout to 850 bn is not off the cards.

    State debts will rise, Victoria and QLD are already basket cases. States are idiotically coming up with their own “stimulus packages” too.

    We might be at 60% debt to GDP in 2-3 years. That is near when it becomes unsustainable in the long run to carry debt.

    Back when the EU started, the Maastricht treaty allowed for a 3% deficit, to preserve the currency and fiscal integrity of the currency union.

    What makes us think we’re immune to the reality of debt is sheer ignorance and a lack of care.

    I think the Canberra bubble fosters this to a large degree.

  15. Not claiming causation, but, the cities with larger, visible rat and cockroach populations seem to have the bigger corona numbers.

    e.g. London, NY

  16. JC

    California study suggests up to 4% would test for the antibody.

    It’s basically an intense, much more contagious version of ten flu.

    https://www.studyfinds.org/study-rate-of-coronavirus-infections-in-la-up-to-55-times-higher-than-confirmed-cases/

  17. Nick

    I’m waiting for twitter to go into overdrive of Turnbridges’ shaming of Credlin. Just like they did for SHY. Anytime now. Oh for anyone who thinks Turnbridge is ‘copping it’, remember what Abbott copped for eating an onion? Louis the Flopteenth’s flounce in today’s paper should be a twitter goldmine.

  18. I’m off to the supermarket to lick a few trolleys.

    I think it is better to get a virus in this pleasant autumn weather than in the middle of a cold winter.

  19. Watch this video about the stuffups in the UK, and you get to understand the successful dynamic between our chief bureaucrats and politicians particularly early in our potential outbreak.

    There was a different result in Australia thanks to our great pathology labs – public and private – and the great work of our public health departments.

  20. There was a different result in Australia thanks to our great pathology labs – public and private – and the great work of our public health departments.

    Even better if the Sputum Princess and Phlegm Princess were kept offshore until they could be cleared for quarantine.

  21. Good work, Karabar…

    —————————————————————————

    Karabar
    #3423600, posted on April 22, 2020 at 10:37 am

    CORONAVIRUS GUIDELINES – GOVERNMENT EDITION
    Here are the official Coronavirus Guidelines:

    1. Basically, you can’t leave the house for any reason, but if you have to, then you can.
    2. Masks are useless. But they will protect you. They can save you, no they can’t, they’re useless, but wear one anyway. Now they’re mandatory. But maybe. Or not.
    3. Stores are closed, except for the ones that are open.
    4. You should not go to the hospital unless you have to go there. Stay out of the ER at all costs unless you’re having a medical emergency then it’s okay.
    5. This virus is deadly but still not too scary, except that sometimes it actually leads to a global disaster. Stay calm and carry on.
    6. Gloves won’t help, but they can still help. Especially if you wear the same pair for hours and everywhere you go, then you can not spread germs, nope. #science
    7. Everyone needs to stay home, but it’s important to go out because sun. Sunlight will kill the virus but not if the virus kills you first by walking in the sunlight where you may be exposed to the virus.
    8. There is no shortage of groceries in the supermarket, but there are many things missing when you go there in the evening, but not in the morning. Sometimes.
    9. The virus has no effect on children except those it has affected or will affect.
    10. Animals are not affected, but there is still a cat that tested positive in Belgium in February when no one had been tested yet, and a tiger.. and one really deadly but also possibly fictional but very sick bat.
    11. You will have many symptoms when you are sick, but you can also get sick without symptoms, have symptoms without being sick, or be contagious without having symptoms.
    12. In order not to get sick, you have to eat well and exercise, but also never go out to the grocery store so eat shelf stable processed crap and stay inside your four walls but also stay healthy.
    13. It’s better to get some fresh air, but you may be arrested if you’re getting fresh air the wrong way and most importantly, don’t go to a park, the fresh air there is deadly.
    14. Under no circumstances should you go to retirement homes, but if you have to take care of the elderly and bring them food and medication then fine. Just wear gloves. The same ones. All day.
    15. If you are sick, you can’t go out, but you can go to the pharmacy to get your medications. Just don’t make eye contact cause you may spread your sickness that way.
    16. You can get restaurant food delivered to the house, which may have been prepared by people who didn’t wear masks or gloves. But you have to leave your groceries outside for 3 hours to be decontaminated by the fresh air that also may have virus particles floating around in it.
    17. Taxi drivers are immune to the virus apparently since you can still take a taxi ride with a random taxi driver. Just don’t take the taxi to your mom’s house because you know. Stay away from your mom.
    18. You can walk around with a friend if you stay six feet apart but don’t visit with your family if they don’t live under the same roof as you. Even if you’ve all been locked inside for two months already. You may still have the virus and just not know it yet. You’ll find out. Wait another week. Wasn’t that week? Might be the next one. Keep waiting.
    19. You are safe if you maintain the appropriate social distance, but you can’t go out with friends or strangers at the safe social distance. Social distancing means you shouldn’t leave your house and don’t be social, except you may go to the liquor store but don’t socialize there while you’re being socially distant.
    20. The virus remains active on different surfaces for two hours, no, four, no, six, no, we didn’t say hours, maybe days? But it takes a damp environment. Oh no, not necessarily.
    21. The virus stays in the air – well no, or yes, maybe, especially in a closed room, in one hour a sick person can infect ten, so if it falls, all our children were already infected at school before it was closed. But remember, if you stay at the recommended social distance, however in certain circumstances you should maintain a greater distance, which, studies show, the virus can travel further, maybe.
    22. We count the number of deaths but we don’t know how many people are infected as we have only tested so far those who were “almost dead” to find out if that’s what they will die of…
    23. The virus will only disappear if we achieve collective immunity. But stay inside until the virus disappears.
    24. At all times obey zee Gruppenuhrer.

  22. Old School Conservative

    We are at war on two fronts – health and the economy (to paraphrase the National Cabinet)
    I have seen many…many projections about catastrophic outcomes on the health front.
    On the economy, all I’ve seen from the NC is budgetary expenses e.g. $130 billion to be spent on Jobkeeper.
    I have seen nothing at all from the NC about all the other outcomes of shutting the economy down.

    SOP for totalitarian wannabes.

  23. Farmer Gez

    The numbers, Numbers, once again in case you’re deaf.
    Germany has nearly as many infections per million as the UK but a very different result in deaths. Four times less on current figures.
    The early lockdown and testing actions by Germany have washed through and NOW we are looking at the ability of the health care providers to manage patients.
    Germany wins hands down.
    It astounds me that you cannot or will not do any basic research to back your political positions. The bloody numbers, Numbers are on the main site page, that Sinc had thoughtfully provided.
    There is no excuse for your ignorance.

  24. JC

    I reckon Myer and David Jones are gonsky.

    The Death of the Department Store: ‘Very Few Are Likely to Survive’

    Shuttered flagships. Empty malls. Canceled orders. Risks of bankruptcy. The coronavirus has hit the behemoths of the retail world.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/21/business/coronavirus-department-stores-neiman-marcus.html

  25. Terry

    @incoherent rambler
    ‘the cities with larger, visible rat and cockroach populations seem to have the bigger corona numbers.’

    That assertion is not supported by the data. Case in point: Canberra.

  26. feelthebern

    The snippet posted on the other thread from the Turds penny dreadful by Nick is too good to leave there.

    In one telling passage, he recalls with a sense of humiliation his last departure from Canberra on the August 2018 Sunday after Scott Morrison replaced him.

    He couldn’t use “the big plane” to fly back to Sydney as his successor was using that RAAF flight, and he had to carry his luggage across the tarmac, in the full view of news photographers, to a smaller aircraft.

  27. Excellent news Bruce of Newcastle. Is Gronk, is good. Very good. Wouldn’t be surprised if the Buccaneers got Antonio Brown either.

  28. twostix

    23. The virus will only disappear if we achieve collective immunity. But stay inside until the virus disappears.

    This is the crux of the matter. They don’t want everyone to get collective immunity.

    They want everyone to get vaccinated.

    That’s what they’ve been saying for weeks now.

    This has turned into an massive experiment in public health policy.

  29. harrys on the boat

    I reckon Myer and David Jones are gonsky.

    The Death of the Department Store: ‘Very Few Are Likely to Survive’

    No, Boris said its just a blip. A few months of government lock downs and handouts and we’ll be back to normal by July.

  30. Farmer Gez

    The Pom’s great NHS hasn’t even been able to keep a count of recovered patients.
    That’s no reflection on the great work done by the medical staff but a damning reflection on the administrative bureaucrats of the NHS.

  31. twostix

    We are at war on two fronts – health and the economy (to paraphrase the National Cabinet)

    The war on the economy is being waged by the unelected “National Cabinet”.

  32. Infidel Tiger King

    I reckon Myer and David Jones are gonsky.

    At least 50% of the businesses that have closed are never reopening.

    But it’s worth it as long as The Boomers and fake jobbers feel safe.

    We are now in a multi decade depression for an event that never affected us.

  33. candy

    It’s basically an intense, much more contagious version of ten flu.

    Maybe, but the thing with the COVID-19 is that it does not infect kids. The normal flu does and always has done and kids die from it.

    To me, that seems a big difference. Specifically it’s mostly the over 70’s get it, never children.
    It’s like someone said let’s design a virus that takes out the older population only.

  34. Leigh Lowe

    @incoherent rambler
    ‘the cities with larger, visible rat and cockroach populations seem to have the bigger corona numbers.’

    Classic corelation/causation misdirection.
    Those with large rat and cockroach populations will have a high human population density.

  35. John64

    h/t Tim Blair. Priorities are changing. Beautifully said:

    I notice the press is saying how many males and females are getting the virus. It’s amazing how all the other 57 genders aren’t getting it.

  36. Tel

    Coronavirus: Donald Trump’s ‘miracle drug’ for curing COVID-19 saw no benefit and more deaths, study finds

    Tested without any Zinc … presumably they were trying to make it fail.

    Still a useful data point, but nobody every said that hydroxychloroquine would work without Zinc, when the whole purpose is to assist the Zinc uptake into the cells. Now we have additional evidence to suggest that this is the mechanism at work here.

  37. JC

    Maybe, but the thing with the COVID-19 is that it does not infect kids. The normal flu does and always has done and kids die from it.

    Candy IT DOES infect kids. It’s just that they don’t exhibit any great symptoms.

  38. JC

    Infidel Tiger King
    #3423624, posted on April 22, 2020 at 11:00 am

    I reckon Myer and David Jones are gonsky.

    At least 50% of the businesses that have closed are never reopening.

    But it’s worth it as long as The Boomers and fake jobbers feel safe.

    We are now in a multi decade depression for an event that never affected us.

    Maybe I am getting too old. NY, London, even Paris without those grand dept stores are worth visiting. Let me get the virus please!

  39. Farmer Gez

    Mitch M.
    #3423630, posted on April 22, 2020 at 11:07 am
    Coronavirus: Donald Trump’s ‘miracle drug’ for curing COVID-19 saw no benefit and more deaths, study finds

    That’s not a study, it’s an anecdote.

  40. candy

    Candy IT DOES infect kids. It’s just that they don’t exhibit any great symptoms.

    Okay, but the normal flu makes kids sick, they have symptoms, and they can die. It’s always been that way and GPs recommend injection to kids at risk already for another reason.
    Unless kids are tested for corona you can’t be sure if they have had it or what. There’s nothing to notice.

    I’m just saying it seems an interesting difference.

  41. Mitch M.

    Farmer Gez
    #3423641, posted on April 22, 2020 at 11:19 am
    Mitch M.
    #3423630, posted on April 22, 2020 at 11:07 am
    Coronavirus: Donald Trump’s ‘miracle drug’ for curing COVID-19 saw no benefit and more deaths, study finds

    That’s not a study, it’s an anecdote.

    If that’s true the earlier “studies” supporting it were fairy tales.

  42. Mitch M.

    Tel
    #3423636, posted on April 22, 2020 at 11:11 am
    Coronavirus: Donald Trump’s ‘miracle drug’ for curing COVID-19 saw no benefit and more deaths, study finds

    Tested without any Zinc … presumably they were trying to make it fail.

    Still a useful data point, but nobody every said that hydroxychloroquine would work without Zinc, when the whole purpose is to assist the Zinc uptake into the cells. Now we have additional evidence to suggest that this is the mechanism at work here.

    It doesn’t work. Get over it.

  43. stackja

    With all the past reports, any study that criticises Trump probably is wrong.

  44. Mitch M.

    Research into obsessive-compulsive disorder shows antibodies could provide new treatment

    It has taken a long time to realise that understanding psychiatric disorders requires more than just looking at neurons.

  45. Bruce of Newcastle

    Candy – Almost everyone gets coronavirus, it’s just that the kids don’t get very sick like older people do.

  46. All the bitching and moaning about the restrictions makes this passage relevant –

    There is a very reliable rule of thumb when it comes to authority and command. It goes something like this – the higher the rank and the more remote the commander is from the action, the greater the degree of insanity his orders will inflict upon his troops. If the people giving the orders are driven by ideology or politics, the situation deteriorates further. This rule holds for civilian as well as military affairs.

    This appears on the rear cover of my book.
    It would make a good Liberty Quote.
    How about it, Sinc?
    In the book it was meant as a comment on the way in which the army did things (applying a set of rules rigidly to everyone, even if they were completely irrelevant to the situation), but provides some understanding of the heavy handed implementation of the lockdown in some jurisdictions.
    Both police and ADF personnel wear uniforms.
    That should tell you something if you’re paying attention.

  47. Tel

    It doesn’t work. Get over it.

    You mean it doesn’t work without Zinc, because the Zinc is what actually does the job.

    But everyone knows what, which is why the first thing to check with any trial is whether they used Zinc or not. This one didn’t and this one failed … and that’s not the least bit surprising. Show me a trial WITH ZINC where the results were poor.

  48. harrys on the boat

    Candy – Almost everyone gets coronavirus, it’s just that the kids don’t get very sick like older people do.

    If you’ve got healthy bone marrow you won’t get sick.

  49. stackja

    We are hopefully learning lessons on how to handle the next Red China pandemic. First know that X1 lies. UN is useless. Leftists want disruption.

  50. Bruce of Newcastle

    Tel
    #3423636, posted on April 22, 2020 at 11:11 am
    Coronavirus: Donald Trump’s ‘miracle drug’ for curing COVID-19 saw no benefit and more deaths, study finds

    Fake news. The actual data apparently says the opposite, but since the report is in rampantly lefty Associate Press you get full-throated TDS.

    Having read the actual study, what it actually reported was that VA patients treated with hydroxycholoroquine and azithromycin were half as likely to die as patients who were treated with neither. That’s exactly opposite of what the author focuses on. Cherry picking the results leads to the results as reported.

    Linky.

  51. EvilElvis

    nor the extent it would be required to “crash” economies to cushion these responses.

    Here’s the problem with these elitist fuckwits. They think today is as bad as it gets, the long dole queue lines have subsided, things are planning out, the plebs have accepted the state of things.

    The actual problem is they’ve had a small knee jerk of unemployment that has been softened by a month of panic buying and Easter. The whole retail sector is softening again, people are seriously tightening the purse strings and the unsustainable boost to some businesses is easing quickly. We are a week or so deep into a proper contraction. Keep patting yourselves on the backs pollies and elites, the real pinch is still coming.

  52. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    This one’s for Western Australian Cats…..

    Top lawyer Lloyd Rayner struck off after wife recordings

    Paige Taylor
    Indigenous Affairs Correspondent, WA Bureau Chief
    @paigeataylor
    7:40AM April 22, 2020

    Former top prosecutor Lloyd Rayney has been struck off as a lawyer after a years-long dispute stemming from recordings he made as his marriage began to break down.

    Mr Rayney was charged and acquitted of the murder of his wife Corryn, a registrar in the West Australian Supreme Court who disappeared after a boot scooting class in 2007. An appeal from prosecutors was dismissed.

    Justice Brian Martin, who oversaw the original trial without a jury, said the murder case against Mr Rayney lacked evidence and logic. Mr Rayney later won a defamation case against the state and was awarded a $2.6 million payout.

    His career as a lawyer ended on Tuesday over dictaphone recordings he made of exchanges with his wife in the months before she was killed, and what he later said about those recordings. In the WA Supreme Court, Mr Rayney did not oppose a Legal Professional Complaints Committee’s recommendation to remove him from the WA Roll of Practitioners.

    Mr Rayney gave evidence in an affidavit and orally that the recordings of exchanges between him and his wife were made with his wife’s knowledge and consent, according to a written judgment published by the WA Supreme Court late on Tuesday.

    The State Administrative Tribunal had found his evidence that the recordings were made with his wife’s knowledge and consent was false, that it was given by him knowing that it was false and with the intention of misleading the court, according to the written judgment.

    “By his professional misconduct Mr Rayney has demonstrated a persistent propensity to engage in dishonest behaviour which is an anathema to a practitioner’s fitness to practice,” according to the written judgment of the WA Supreme Court.

    “He has engaged in the utmost of serious professional misconduct by intentionally misleading the Magistrates Court and repeating his false evidence in further proceedings before this Court and in the Tribunal.

    “By that sustained professional misconduct Mr Rayney has demonstrably failed to conduct himself with the honesty and candour required of every legal practitioner on the Roll of Practitioners. The effective functioning of the administration of justice in this State depends upon the honesty and candour of all legal practitioners who practice within its jurisdiction.”–

  53. vlad

    Maybe I am getting too old. NY, London, even Paris without those grand dept stores are worth visiting. Let me get the virus please!

    I’m sorry JC, but are you saying they ARE worth visiting without Harrods etc or they WON’T BE worth visiting without them? Lots of typos fly around here, from me included. Usually you can work out what people meant anyway.

  54. Infidel Tiger King

    Trump has lost the election.

    He has backed down on his immigration ban.

  55. woolfe

    Hmmm, getting struck off the list and a multi million payout is WA punishment for (probably but not proven to) organising your wifes death and upside down burial in Kings Park.

  56. Infidel Tiger King

    Bethany S. Mandel
    @bethanyshondark
    People must realize that unless their entire family stays under house arrest for two years, we’re all going to get this thing… right?
    9:15 PM · Apr 21, 2020

  57. Caveman

    We are hopefully learning lessons on how to handle the next Red China pandemic

    Nuke first ,then panic.

    …then Nuke again.

  58. stackja

    New Zealand entered lockdown on 25 March
    Meanwhile:
    CZ305 /CSN305 China Southern Airlines CAN GUANGZHOU to AKL AUCKLAND

  59. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Hmmm, getting struck off the list and a multi million payout is WA punishment for (probably but not proven to) organising your wifes death and upside down burial in Kings Park.

    An option only for the ” purple circle” that have their chambers on St Georges Terrace.

  60. stackja

    Infidel Tiger King
    #3423663, posted on April 22, 2020 at 11:37 am
    Trump has lost the election.

    HRC won last time?

  61. Infidel Tiger King

    Who zinged it better? Turnbull on ABC’s 7.30: “If Dutton had become leader, not even Bill Shorten could have lost the election.” Or Shorten on Sky: “I mean, if you were going down to the bookshop to buy Malcolm’s 677 pages in the time of coronavirus and the cops pulled you over, I’m not sure you wouldn’t get fined for a non-essential job there.”

    Full marks to Shorten.

  62. DrBeauGan

    I went to the war memorial in King’s Park for my morning walk today. A dry run for Anzac Day. Reconnaissance. Twice my usual distance.

    I was going to do my quiet meditation while smoking a cigar, but discovered I had left my lighter behind. I did think of lighting it from the sacred flame, but it was too difficult to get to.

  63. Overburdened

    Snorkel report

    Water a bit cooler on the seaward side of the point.

    Visibility poorer than on the beach- about 10m with a lot of particulate.

    Green turtles, rays, morwong, bream, and assorted other fish of all shapes and sizes schooling en masse.

    No crays, which was part of the point of going.

  64. It doesn’t work. Get over it.

    If Trump advocated blood-letting as a cure, his base would be queueing up for it.
    You couldn’t make this stuff up…..

  65. Infidel Tiger King

    Blood letting does work, dickhead.

  66. Overburdened

    Feng shui disturbed by email wanting advice from the last contract and will I come back.

    Some people live in a bubble.

  67. cohenite

    Karabar
    #3423600, posted on April 22, 2020 at 10:37 am
    CORONAVIRUS GUIDELINES – GOVERNMENT EDITION
    Here are the official Coronavirus Guidelines:

    Outstanding and very funny because it’s true.

  68. Robber Baron

    In one telling passage, he recalls with a sense of humiliation his last departure from Canberra on the August 2018 Sunday after Scott Morrison replaced him.

    He couldn’t use “the big plane” to fly back to Sydney as his successor was using that RAAF flight, and he had to carry his luggage across the tarmac, in the full view of news photographers, to a smaller aircraft.

    Surely this passage must be posted on every page on every thread. It’s hilarious.

    Turnbull doesn’t even realize that he is no longer important and has joined the unwashed serf class.

  69. Overburdened

    Every rose has its thorn.

    This site has a resident cock head.

    Apart from me as a transient cock head that is.

  70. woolfe

    Karabar
    #3423600, posted on April 22, 2020 at 10:37 am
    CORONAVIRUS GUIDELINES – GOVERNMENT EDITION
    Here are the official Coronavirus Guidelines:

    I stole that and put it on my facebook

  71. Having read the actual study, what it actually reported was that VA patients treated with hydroxycholoroquine and azithromycin were half as likely to die as patients who were treated with neither. That’s exactly opposite of what the author focuses on. Cherry picking the results leads to the results as reported.

    Wow.

    It is shocking but AP journalists would be so dishonest they would tarnish good results in order to beat up Trump.

    Where is the saving lives mantra?

  72. candy

    Trump has lost the election.

    Might be difficult. The virus has upended everything he worked for by half destroying the economy. A tragedy of lost lives to the disease and futures due to the crushed economy. And maybe failing oil and gas producers in the USA due to the low prices. Who could have predicted all this.

    But enough Americans may vote for the old chap who fondles young lasses when he gets the chance to swing it to Dems.

  73. Old School Conservative

    damning reflection on the administrative bureaucrats of the NHS.

    Who probably make up most of the jobs in the NHS.

  74. Karabar
    #3423600, posted on April 22, 2020 at 10:37 am
    CORONAVIRUS GUIDELINES – GOVERNMENT EDITION
    Here are the official Coronavirus Guidelines:

    I stole that and emailed it to a few email distributors.

  75. Infidel Tiger King

    Eric Topol
    @EricTopol
    What is the #COVID19 asymptomatic infection rate?
    We’ve added a 9th cohort from France (Thanks
    @rfsquared
    ) and believe ~40% is the best estimate, accounting for some pre-symptomatic admixture. More, + links for details below Down pointing backhand indexhttps://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1252356183077208082… + we’ll continue to update

    https://mobile.twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1252412650790678529

  76. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Indonesia’s Aceh keeps up public floggings despite Coronavirus fears

    It’s all good – they followed social distancing rules..

  77. Confused Old Misfit

    If Trump looses this election to Biden, then the American experiment has failed.

  78. Hay Stockardu

    This pandemic has turned out to a paper tiger. The only upside is that those elected and unelected bugmen overlords of ours have been shown up to be the stupid totalitarian self entitled arseclowns that they are.

  79. Leigh Lowe

    From the grinning idiot Sutton, Viktorianistan CMO:-

    The total number of coronavirus (COVID-19) cases in Victoria is 1,336 – no net increase from yesterday.

    So they have now cunningly inserted the word “net” into a stat about cumulative gross figures.
    So, what is the real “net” figure for the day?
    Actually, it is -41 (that is, minus 41).
    Zero new cases.
    Zero deaths.
    41 recoveries.
    Active cases for Viktorianistan stand at 78 (seventy eight).

  80. The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.

    White nationalist activist Augustus sol Invictus​, ​whose birth name ​is Austin Gillespie​, and his father John Gillespie were both arrested on separate charges.

    Invictus was arrested earlier this year on charges of kidnapping, “high and aggravated” domestic violence​, and possess​ion of a firearm ​while committing a violent crime after he allegedly choked his wife​, held a gun to her head​,​ and forced her to accompany him to Florida with him. ​According to The Informant, a South Carolina judge ​threw out the kidnapping charge and allowed Invictus to leave jail with a $10,000 bond despite Invictus’ wife begging that he stay behind bars for her and her children​’s safety. The judge’s order required Invictus to not contact his wife.

  81. vlad

    So, what is the real “net” figure for the day?
    Actually, it is -41 (that is, minus 41).
    Zero new cases.
    Zero deaths.
    41 recoveries.
    Active cases for Viktorianistan stand at 78 (seventy eight).

    At that rate the state will be virus free in two days.

    Lockdown will then continue for another year or so.

  82. Leigh Lowe

    This post from Sunday:-

    Leigh Lowe
    #3419419, posted on April 19, 2020 at 5:58 pm
    I have recorded the daily Kung Flu stats for Viktorianistan going back to 1st March, and graphed “daily new cases” against “daily recoveries”, with recoveries lagged 14 days.
    I haven’t bothered with running any co-relation coefficient calcs, but just eyeballing the chart, the relationship is very tight.

    Active cases in Viktorianistan stand at 125 as of today.
    Looking ahead, assuming they get 10-15 new cases each day (and that is high I think) I reckon the active cases will be somewhere between 40 – 60 by next Sunday, possibly lower.

    Today’s active cases stand at 78.
    I think I was a doom merchant predicting 40 – 60 by Sunday.

  83. thefrollickingmole

    You couldn’t make this stuff up…..

    He says as he makes stuff up

  84. Farmer Gez

    Word is the medical emergency called in Victoria will end on the 4th May and staff will be stood down.

  85. Geriatric Mayfly

    Tyrant Governor Gretchen Whitmer Awards Coronavirus Contract to Far Left Political Firm to Track Private Health Info of Michigan Residents

    Comrade De Blasio’s Snitch Line Inundated with Dick Pics, Hitler Memes and People Flipping Him the Bird

    These two in concert will soon announce the statutory Dick Tracker App.

  86. thefrollickingmole

    Guess whos the governments go to man for modelling the Coronavirus impact?
    And for the WHO (Australia) as well?

    http://billmckibben.com/

    The let gibberin Mckkibberen on their ABc and his statement was along the lines of “Covid is nothing compared to climate change, but it does show how government can come together in a crisis and do things”…

  87. Tim Neilson

    Word is the medical emergency called in Victoria will end on the 4th May and staff will be stood down.

    I wonder what the Hunchback will come up with as an excuse to extend the lockdown?

  88. Leigh Lowe

    Active cases for Viktorianistan stand at 78 (seventy eight).

    At that rate the state will be virus free in two days.

    Lockdown will then continue for another year or so.

    Ah, no, Vlad.
    The next big Fuck You from Dickhead Dan will be which restrictions he relaxes first.
    Golf and fishing will remain banned, but Chunky students will be allowed in because paying a round-eye to do your assignments for a Degree in International Welations is essential.
    However, schools will remain closed so that teachers can sit on their arses at home and fire out a generic lesson plan each day.

  89. johanna

    On Our Selection Chapter Fourteen:

    On Our Selection
    Chapter XIV
    When Dan Came Home
    Steele Rudd

    ONE NIGHT after the threshing. Dad lying on the sofa, thinking; the rest of us sitting at the table. Dad spoke to Joe.

    “How much,” he said, “is seven hundred bushels of wheat at six shillings?”

    Joe, who was looked upon as the brainy one of our family, took down his slate with a hint of scholarly ostentation.

    “What did y’ say, Dad—seven ’undred bags?”

    “Bushels! bushels!”

    “Seven ’un-dered bush-els-of wheat—wheat was it, Dad?”

    “Yes, wheat!”

    “Wheat at . . . At what, Dad?”

    “Six shillings a bushel.”

    “Six shil-lings-a. . . . A, Dad? We’ve not done any at A; she’s on’y showed us per!”

    “per bushel, then!”

    “Per bush-el. That’s seven ’undered bushels of wheat at six shillin’s per bushel. An’ y’ wants ter know, Dad—?”

    “How much it’ll be, of course.”

    “In money, Dad, or—er——?”

    “Dammit, yes; money!” Dad raised his voice.

    For a while, Joe thought hard, then set to work figuring and rubbing out, figuring and rubbing out. The rest of us eyed him, envious of his learning.

    Joe finished the sum.

    “Well?” from Dad.

    Joe cleared his throat. We listened.

    “Nine thousan’ poun’.”

    Dave laughed loud. Dad said, “Pshaw!” and turned his face to the wall. Joe looked at the slate again.

    “Oh! I see,” he said, “I did n’t divide by twelve t’ bring t’ pounds,” and laughed himself.

    More figuring and rubbing out.

    Finally Joe, in loud, decisive tones, announced, “Four thousand, no ’undered an’ twenty poun’, fourteen shillin’s an’—”

    “Bah! You blockhead!” Dad blurted out, and jumped off the sofa and went to bed.

    We all turned in.

    Now read on

  90. Leigh Lowe

    Farmer Gez
    #3423729, posted on April 22, 2020 at 12:40 pm
    Word is the medical emergency called in Victoria will end on the 4th May and staff will be stood down.

    What do you mean “staff will be stood down”?

  91. Hay Stockardu

    Geriatric Mayfly,
    PML about De Blasio.

  92. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Virgin Australia bailout: Billionaire shareholders who won’t rescue airline

    Chinese billionaires and oligarchs are among the shareholders who refused to rescue Virgin Australia, with the company forced to lobby for a $1.4 billion loan from the Australian taxpayer.
    Ellen Whinnett, News Corp Australia Network
    Subscriber only
    |
    April 22, 2020 8:20a.m

    And the airline’s founder, billionaire Sir Richard Branson, charged Virgin Australia up to $150 million in fees to use the Virgin brand name, even as the Australian company fell deeply into the red.

    As Sir Richard’s shareholdings decreased to 10 per cent, Virgin Australia stopped reporting the payments in its annual reports from 2013. However News Corp understands those fees amounted to around $10 million a year, taking the total payments to around $150 million.

    It’s believed Virgin Australia’s bosses felt the payments were good value for money, with the Virgin brand recognised globally, and Sir Richard enthusiastically promoting the airline in international and Australian markets.

    Sir Richard, whose estimated wealth is $9.2 billion, has said he will mortgage his private island, located in the tax haven of the British Virgin Islands in the Caribbean, to raise funds to assist his battling international airlines.

    He has said he is not charging brand licensing fees during the coronavirus downturn.

  93. Geriatric Mayfly

    Sir Richard, whose estimated wealth is $9.2 billion, has said he will mortgage his private island, located in the tax haven of the British Virgin Islands in the Caribbean, to raise funds to assist his battling international airlines.

    One island would probably equal one A380.

  94. Why are the supermarket checkout people still alive?

  95. Farmer Gez

    Mr Rayney was charged and acquitted of the murder of his wife Corryn, a registrar in the West Australian Supreme Court who disappeared after a boot scooting class in 2007. An appeal from prosecutors was dismissed.

    Not just WA Cats.
    I watched the show about her death and immediately recognised her face, particularly when I googled her and saw a picture when she was in her twenties.
    I’m certain I met Corryn when on holidays as a young bloke. She was smart, funny and different to the other girls and we had a good chat. I was leaving to go back home the next day so nothing came of our meeting but I do remember her look and the fact she was a lawyer with an Indian/Portuguese background.
    A small world and a sad one sometimes. That mongrel didn’t deserve her, that’s for sure.

  96. Leigh Lowe

    johanna
    #3423737, posted on April 22, 2020 at 12:47 pm
    On Our Selection Chapter Fourteen:

    Does Turnbull know you are cut ‘n pasting his book?

  97. Nick

    His is called On my erection.

  98. Bruce of Newcastle

    The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.

    Hunter Biden has been keeping a very low profile lately. It’s a mystery!

  99. NoFixedAddress

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #3423740, posted on April 22, 2020 at 12:48 pm

    Virgin Australia bailout

    Now if you could talk Peter Thiel into picking it up and he had the naming rights he could call it Trump Airlines – We Trump The Skies!

    Imagine even the hint of this to the twoterati.

  100. harrys on the boat

    Health Nazis say there could be 30000 infected in Aus trying to scare already hysterical women and boomers.

    That’s a fucking good thing, it means it does fuck all and kills no-body you chin dribbling spastics.

    Following on from LL, looking at WA as well as Vic and probably the rest of the nation, in a weeks time we are looking at zero active cases with nobody in hospital.

  101. Des Deskperson

    ‘He couldn’t use “the big plane” to fly back to Sydney as his successor was using that RAAF flight, and he had to carry his luggage across the tarmac, in the full view of news photographers, to a smaller aircraft.’

    As Leigh Lowe pointed out on the other thread, this strongly implies that Turnbull believed that he was entitled to a VIP flight, and that he was miffed when he had to take a smaller executive jet.

    According to the guidelines, VIP aircraft are normally only to be used when there are no alternative commercial flights available, unless there are ‘special circumstances’. Although the guidelines don’t specify it, there used to be – and maybe still is – a general policy that they were not to be used between capital cities.

    I believe that there are special dispensations for the PM, but an ex-PM travelling to Sydney from Canberra? ‘Special circumstances’? Nah.

    He could have asked Morrison for a seat on the PM’s jet, that would be within the guidelines.

    My own view is that he actually had to endure going home on Citylink. The VIP stuff is just more pathetic big-noting.

  102. Tim Neilson

    Des Deskperson
    #3423752, posted on April 22, 2020 at 1:08 pm

    I’ve certainly seen Cabinet ministers slumming it in business class on commercial flights.

  103. Leigh Lowe

    Following on from LL, looking at WA as well as Vic and probably the rest of the nation, in a weeks time we are looking at zero active cases with nobody in hospital.

    I based a Vikko number of active cases of 40-60 by Sunday on 10-15 new cases each day, and we are not getting that.
    We currently have 78 active cases.
    Below is a roll back of the dates of the last 95 cases identified by date. The 17 cases on 18th April is an artificially high number as over half came from returning cruisers. I am thinking they tested them on arrival, whacked them in a hotel and tested them all again in one batch after a week or ten days.
    I expect Friday-Saturday to show most of the remaining cases drop off, as the lump of new cases identified from 11th to 14th April clear through.
    I reckon the number for Sunday is now more likely to be 20-30 active cases.

    11-Apr-20 … 24
    12-Apr-20 … 3
    13-Apr-20 … 13
    14-Apr-20 … 10
    15-Apr-20 … 8
    16-Apr-20 … 2
    17-Apr-20 … 1
    18-Apr-20 … 17
    19-Apr-20 … 9
    20-Apr-20 … 1
    21-Apr-20 … 7
    22-Apr-20 … Nil, Zero, Nada, Nought

  104. Farmer Gez

    UK 828 deaths yesterday.
    Germany 224.
    Give me a reason other than better medical care.

  105. min

    Here is another of Turnbull’s gems ,
    “they got rid of me because I was going to win the election “
    He is referring to the conspiracy that Murdoch planed to reinstate Abbott in 3 years . Paranoia delusional .
    The previous lack lustre performance at the last election he ran from his office under Malcolm Turnbull’s Coalition . He blames Credlin for the renovations of the lodge done by Gillard and Rudd and still not competed when Abbott won as he lived in ADF quarters from memory . Prone to rages also Classic example of NPD including projection and paranoia .

  106. Farmer Gez

    Leigh Lowe
    #3423738, posted on April 22, 2020 at 12:47 pm
    Farmer Gez
    #3423729, posted on April 22, 2020 at 12:40 pm
    Word is the medical emergency called in Victoria will end on the 4th May and staff will be stood down.

    What do you mean “staff will be stood down”?

    Sorry Leigh, I didn’t read back.
    Staff on standby in wards set up for the big rush. Twiddling their thumbs at the moment I guess and will return to their normal roles. There’s lots of spare capacity with the elective surgery shutdowns.

  107. min

    Already re converting Operating theatres in private hospital for elective surgery . Reported to me few days ago by sister of someone in charge of process.

  108. Helen Davidson (nmrn)

    Does anyone here use, or know someone who uses, one of those Bluetooth tracker apps for finding lost keys and stuff? Any recommendations (or advice on what to avoid)?

    At this stage, cost is not a particularly relevant factor as I’ve just had a nightmare 24 hours looking for hubby’s lost keys and wallet. His preferred method is the “rant and rave” as he stalks around the house looking in the same places over and over. Asking when he was last sure he had them and then talking through his movements since, mostly gets me growled or yelled at.

    We eventually found them in the ground just under the verandah. Genius had sweated a lot when working and had stripped of shirt and trousers and put them over the verandah rail to dry out, not noticing wallet and keys fall out the pocket.

  109. Give me a reason other than better medical care.

    Weight of the average pom?

  110. harrys on the boat

    Tracy Adams, chief executive of yourtown, which operates Kids Helpline, said it had been getting about 6500 calls consistently for a number of months prior to March, when the average weekly calls shot up to about 9000 as anxiety about coronavirus spread.

    The virus doesn’t even affect them but thanks to bedwetters and incompetence young lives are being destroyed.

  111. Leigh Lowe

    On the matter of Trumble’s Walk of Shame across the Canberra tarmac, I assumed he was referring to the Dassault’s, which are part of the VIP Fleet.
    From Grigopedia …

    The RAAF’s current Special Purpose Aircraft are two leased Boeing Business Jets (737-700) and three Dassault Falcon 7x

    Question.
    Would Malcolm, even after being given the flick, entertain the idea that he might be flying QF or Virgin?
    I have no doubt he would have bullied his way into a VIP flight, and everyone just rolled their eyes and complied one last time, but downgrading him from the 737 to the Dassault.
    Hey, I’ll even bet he pulled some bush lawyer shit like he is entitled to a return VIP flight, and as he booked the inbound leg as PM, he must be repatriated to his domicile by the harbour in a VIP jet.
    Yes, petty.
    But it is Malcolm.

  112. NoFixedAddress

    Another reason for the National Diktatorship to increase the lockdown restrictions,

    The Lyrids

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyrids

  113. Leigh Lowe

    Does anyone here use, or know someone who uses, one of those Bluetooth tracker apps for finding lost keys and stuff? Any recommendations (or advice on what to avoid)?

    Got one with a tag to supposedly track the dawg.
    Nothing short of useless.

  114. Old School Conservative

    We eventually found them in the ground just under the verandah.

    See. Rant and rave works.

  115. harrys on the boat

    Scott Morrison

    @ScottMorrisonMP
    Just got off the phone with US President @realDonaldTrump. We had a very constructive discussion on our health responses to #COVID19 and the need to get our market-led and business centres economies up and running again.

    Translated: What are you doing you stupid aussie xunt, with those numbers get your country back to work FFS.

  116. Leigh Lowe

    Sorry Leigh, I didn’t read back.
    Staff on standby in wards set up for the big rush. Twiddling their thumbs at the moment I guess and will return to their normal roles. There’s lots of spare capacity with the elective surgery shutdowns.

    Ah, OK.
    We must have thousands doing sfa.
    Only 29 Kung Flu cases in hospital.

  117. Helen Davidson (nmrn)

    See. Rant and rave works.

    Grrrrr…….

    You’re definitely a male “of a certain age”, aren’t you?

  118. Too late Mr Trump.

    …and for the ALP and LNP.

    You can’t just take businesses *out of “hibernation”*, you insufferable dolts.

  119. notafan

    I saw about twenty thirty kids in a gaggle waiting to enter school grounds outside the local state primary at about 8.55 this morning.

    Lots of mums with them.

    Zero social distancing.

    Doubt they are all essential workers- all in casual attire.

    If it’s safe for them then why not the rest?

  120. Nick

    Would Malcolm, even after being given the flick, entertain the idea that he might be flying QF or Virgin?

    Ugh lovey, no, just no. The public? (Shudders). It’s bad enough that I have to carry my own bags. Mummy would have died of shame if she saw me on such a flight, I mean it only has Business Class, ‘domestic’ Business class. What if someone from Wentworth was to see or hear of it? No, no, it just won’t do. Wait till the Guardian hears of this outrage.

  121. Nick

    but downgrading him from the 737 to the Dassault.

    Hang on, isn’t climate change the worst thing in the world ?

  122. notafan

    I wonder how forgiving of (extremely high) unpaid commercial rent this generous donor of covid19 relief will be.

    owner of one local shopping centre

  123. Tel

    UK 828 deaths yesterday.
    Germany 224.
    Give me a reason other than better medical care.

    English cooking.

    Seriously, Germans put more effort into their diet.

  124. rickw

    Translated: What are you doing you stupid aussie xunt, with those numbers get your country back to work FFS.

    Indeed.

  125. Nick

    Good news for Cruisey Cats:

    Ruby Princess will be back at sea by early July, cruise operator says

    The Ruby Princess cruise ship will be back at sea by early July according to its owners, who are optimistic the embattled vessel will offer round-trip cruises from Seattle during the upcoming northern hemisphere summer.

  126. feelthebern

    UK 828 deaths yesterday.
    Germany 224.
    Give me a reason other than better medical care.

    The NHS is a death trap.

  127. thefrollickingmole

    Seriously, Germans put more effort into their diet.

    The beastly G*rmans have little stool catchers in their shitters.
    To emulate them in their foul Fecal fornication follies would be a foolish fancy.

    Dundes specialized in folklore, and in German folklore, as he put it, “one finds an inordinate number of texts concerned with anality. Scheisse (shit), Dreck (dirt), Mist (manure), Arsch (ass).… Folksongs, folktales, proverbs, riddles, folk speech—all attest to the Germans’ longstanding special interest in this area of human activity.”

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    He then proceeded to pile up a shockingly high stack of evidence to support his theory. There’s a popular German folk character called der Dukatenscheisser (“The Money Shitter”), who is commonly depicted crapping coins from his rear end. Europe’s only museum devoted exclusively to toilets was built in Munich. The German word for “shit” performs a vast number of bizarre linguistic duties—for instance, a common German term of endearment was once “my little shit bag.” The first thing Gutenberg sought to publish, after the Bible, was a laxative timetable he called a “Purgation-Calendar.” Then there are the astonishing number of anal German folk sayings: “As the fish lives in water, so does the shit stick to the asshole!,” to select but one of the seemingly endless examples.

  128. feelthebern

    Jimmy Dore goes to town on Pelosi & her ice cream.

  129. feelthebern

    Who would have thought Pelosi would have blown herself up over ice cream.
    The first GOP ad was just devastating.
    It’s going to be used again & again over the next 6 months.

  130. johanna

    Leigh Lowe
    #3423745, posted on April 22, 2020 at 12:57 pm

    johanna
    #3423737, posted on April 22, 2020 at 12:47 pm
    On Our Selection Chapter Fourteen:

    Does Turnbull know you are cut ‘n pasting his book?

    Shame on you.

    I am cut and pasting Wayne Swansteen’s book in this instance.

  131. thefrollickingmole

    I am cut and pasting Wayne Swansteen’s book in this instance.

    You can cut and paste crayon?

    Or are you referring to how he wrote it?

  132. Old School Conservative

    You’re definitely a male “of a certain age”, aren’t you?

    And proud of it Helen D.
    By the way, please tell me you didn’t ask “Where did you have them last?”

  133. rickw

    Des Deskperson
    #3423752, posted on April 22, 2020 at 1:08 pm

    I’ve certainly seen Cabinet ministers slumming it in business class on commercial flights.

    I’ve seen Cabinet Ministers wave back to punters waving off friends and family, thinking of course that they were adoring voters. The look on the faces of the punters was priceless: “WTF? I hate your guts you stupid bastard?!”.

  134. Fisky

    Economists insisted there was no relationship between immigration and house prices on the upswing, but are now predicting price Armageddon on the down. If there is a larger price fall in Melbourne and Sydney, their lies are exposed!

    https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2020/04/domain-lower-immigration-a-major-contributor-to-falling-property-prices/

  135. Bruce of Newcastle

    Hang on, isn’t climate change the worst thing in the world ?

    Apparently.
    Joe Biden Promises Leftward Shift on Climate; Eliminating Fossil Fuels Not Enough (21 Apr)
    Maybe he and Malcolm should get together. I wonder what sort of car Joe gets around in?

  136. Leigh Lowe

    Nick

    #3423797, posted on April 22, 2020 at 1:56 pm

    Good news for Cruisey Cats:

    Ruby Princess will be back at sea by early July, cruise operator says

    … as a storage hulk for crude oil.

  137. Mater

    Really? You don’t say!

    The rate of new coronavirus infections in Australia continues to fall but the country’s deputy chief medical officer says eliminating the virus is not a realistic option…
    He rejected the notion that Australia could “eliminate” the virus.

  138. Bruce of Newcastle

    He rejected the notion that Australia could “eliminate” the virus.

    Does he mean the ABC?
    Tough bugger to get rid of.
    Worse than a virus.

  139. Helen Davidson (nmrn)

    By the way, please tell me you didn’t ask “Where did you have them last?”

    No. I did what any sensible woman would do. I told him where he must have had them last.

    He drove home on Monday afternoon, so must have had his keys then. I checked the credit card to see where he had used it last – the servo at Noonamah to get fuel on the way home. Rang them to check no wallet had been handed in.

    Ergo, they had to be here on the property somewhere.

    Overnight, I remembered that he had taken the dogs for a ride around the block on his quad bike when he got home Monday afternoon, so we walked the route he had ridden. On the way back, we took a short cut across the lawn back to the house and walked past the end of the verandah which is where we found the keys and wallet.

  140. rickw

    The rate of new coronavirus infections in Australia continues to fall but the country’s deputy chief medical officer says eliminating the virus is not a realistic option…
    He rejected the notion that Australia could “eliminate” the virus.

    We’re slowly reaching the conclusion that we just need to get on with it. Except we’ve had an incredibly destructive side trip.

  141. Who would have thought Pelosi would have blown herself up over ice cream.
    The first GOP ad was just devastating.
    It’s going to be used again & again over the next 6 months.

    The reason the left hate Trump so much is that he is the first person to use their own tactics against them.

    Finally, someone who not only gets Alinsky Rule #4 but applies it with a blowtorch…and ice cream.

    The added bonus is the involvement of that fat fuck Pommy twat who’s about as funny as a fart in an elevator. Hopefully, these Late Night Progressive Propagandists might start to think twice before trying to Goebbel down on their Dear Leaders.

  142. cohenite

    Hunchback in full panic mode:

    Property prices would also fall by nine percent by the end of the calendar year.
    Premier Daniel Andrews said the “significant” damage to the economy was “unavoidable”.
    “This modelling shows is that this is not only the biggest health challenge that Victoria has faced in living memory, it is also the biggest economic and employment challenge that our state has faced perhaps ever,” he said.
    “There is an enormous amount of damage that has been done to the Victorian economy.
    https://twitter.com/andrew_lund/status/1252757813731840000
    “That is unavoidable. If we don’t get our health problem fixed, if we don’t get the health challenge dealt with appropriately, then we’ll see even more economic damage.
    “If this gets away from us, there will be a very large cost, both in terms of lives and jobs, and the very fabric of our community and indeed the Victorian economy beyond that.
    “We’ve got a long road ahead of us of rebuilding and recovery.”

    The hunchback is seeking $24.5 billion from scomo. Victoristan has 1336 confirmed chunk virus cases and 15 deaths all over 70.

  143. EvilElvis

    UK 828 deaths yesterday.
    Germany 224.
    Give me a reason other than better medical care.

    No age breakdown.
    No location breakdown.
    No cultural demographic breakdown.

    Numbers mean what people want them to mean.

  144. Leigh Lowe

    The hunchback is seeking $24.5 billion from scomo. Victoristan had has 1336 confirmed chunk virus cases and 15 deaths all over 70.

    I realise I am being a pedant, but past tense.
    Viktorianistan has 78 cases of Kung Flu.

  145. John Brumble

    Qld has a website up with some more batflu information that it previously had. But there’s two major issues with it:
    1) There’s this almost aggressive need to reference “total cases”. This is rubbish. Someone wanting to know what’s happening “now” wants to know the number of active cases, not how many cases there used to be; and
    2) Where this data (and others data sets) are provided, they are often only provided for various regions. This is next to useless, since the location of hospitals within these regions distorts the results.
    What we’re left with is some information about what’s already happened and some details that amount to “sick people are in hospital”.

  146. Bruce of Newcastle

    The reason the left hate Trump so much is that he is the first person to use their own tactics against them.

    He’s also destroying Gaia’s immaculate creation, reversing everything the Holy Most Reverend Obama did and has been stacking SCOTUS with hairy neanderthals.

  147. Boambee John

    According to the pelican,

    There is a very reliable rule of thumb when it comes to authority and command. It goes something like this – the higher the rank and the more remote the commander is from the action, the greater the degree of insanity his orders will inflict upon his troops. If the people giving the orders are driven by ideology or politics, the situation deteriorates further. This rule holds for civilian as well as military affairs.

    Correct me if I am wrong, but was not the pelican reasonably senior in the Queensland Education Department? A principal, and later some kind of regional manager? Does the pelican appear to be driven by ideology or politics?

    This rule holds for civilian as well as military affairs.

    Zero self-awareness!

  148. johanna

    thefrollickingmole
    #3423806, posted on April 22, 2020 at 2:02 pm

    I am cut and pasting Wayne Swansteen’s book in this instance.

    You can cut and paste crayon?

    Or are you referring to how he wrote it?

    I am referring to his unparalleled grasp of arithmetic, Mole.

  149. Infidel Tiger King

    Zero cases in WA.

    Shut her down.

    Destroy the economy.

    Can’t be too careful.

  150. John Brumble
    #3423834, posted on April 22, 2020 at 2:41 pm
    Qld has a website up with some more batflu information that it previously had. But there’s two major issues with it:
    1) There’s this almost aggressive need to reference “total cases”. This is rubbish. Someone wanting to know what’s happening “now” wants to know the number of active cases, not how many cases there used to be; and

    You’re not going to be given this information because it is highly “problematic” (to use that shite word), that is, problematic for the Gubbermunt.

    For example – there are currently less than 0.5% of ventilators in use nationwide. Not 50% or 15% or 5% – ZERO POINT FIVE percent.

  151. Bruce of Newcastle

    Speaking of destroying Gaia’s immaculate planet:
    EPA looks at suspending ethanol blending requirement (21 Apr)
    I do hope so. Burning food in cars is immoral.

  152. johanna

    So, the Deputy Commonwealth CMO says that it’s not possible to eliminate the virus, and the Victorian CMO says that it is possible.

    We are in the best of hands, everyone!

  153. old bloke

    incoherent rambler
    #3423705, posted on April 22, 2020 at 12:09 pm

    Karabar
    #3423600, posted on April 22, 2020 at 10:37 am
    CORONAVIRUS GUIDELINES – GOVERNMENT EDITION
    Here are the official Coronavirus Guidelines:

    I stole that and emailed it to a few email distributors.

    Yep, me too. Well done Karbar, very clever.

  154. areff

    So, here’s a further snapshot of life in Trashcanistan on the Yarra:

    Someone called Dirty Dan’s Dobber Line, set up to report qwuarantine breaches, to report overhearing a supermarket conversation in which a man said “the Premier is a crook and Victoria Police are only fit for framing cardinals — and they can’t even get that right”

    The call-center person who took the call said that it sounded like a matter for the police to investigate, as it could be construed as a threat against the Premier!

    Call then transferred to uniformed police, at which point my informant put the phone down, having established to his satisfaction that things in Victoria, bad to start with, are getting worse by the day.

  155. harrys on the boat

    Zero cases in WA.

    Shut her down.

    Destroy the economy.

    Can’t be too careful.

    If LL is keeping score, active cases down to 88, down from 96 yesterday (103 the day before and 113 before that).

  156. Nick

    Zero cases in WA.

    If the intention is to have zero, or few cases, at what point do they re open the State?

  157. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    in the better late than never files…
    Australia to start strategic fuel reserve

  158. johanna

    And we think we’ve got problems with dodgy data informing policy:

    The government has decided to keep the scientific evidence upon which it is basing its response to the Chinese coronavirus secret until the pandemic subsides.

    Boris Johnson’s administration is facing increased calls for transparency on the actions being recommended by the Scientific Advisory Group on Emergencies (Sage) that is heading the response to the COVID-19 pandemic. However, records from the group’s meetings and the identity of its members will be kept secret until “Sage stops convening on this emergency”, the UK’s chief scientific adviser Sir Patrick Vallance said.

    At present, only a handful of scientists, including the chief medical adviser for England Chris Whitty and Sir Patrick, have been confirmed to be on the board of approximately 80 scientists, sparking concerns that the government is receiving limited and incomplete information from advisers.

    and

    In response to Mr Clark’s call for transparency, Sir Patrick said that the government is operating on rules for the Cabinet Office Briefing Rooms (Cobra). He wrote: “This contributes towards safeguarding members’ personal security and protects them from lobbying and other forms of unwanted influence which may hinder their ability to give impartial advice.”

    FMD. What a load of bollocks. Not to mention arse-covering.

  159. johanna

    Note where the handy fuel ‘reserve’ is located, Zippy.

    Hint: it’s on a different continent.

  160. harrys on the boat

    The Ruby Princess Dr is throwing NSW government under a bus.

  161. Struth

    UK 828 deaths yesterday.
    Germany 224.
    Give me a reason other than better medical care.

    I take it you have already ascertained the CoD recording method of both?

    Because left wing bureaucrats in the NHS will have no problem corrupting figures, while getting figures wrong to a German is reprehensible, even if they have as much TDS as those in Britain’s public service.

  162. H B Bear

    Is it true that Goose Swansteen only got a publisher for his memoir when he demonstrated he could stay within the lines?

  163. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    We’re slowly reaching the conclusion that we just need to get on with it. Except we’ve had an incredibly destructive side trip.

    it turned into a dirt track and we blew out all four tyres

  164. ‘arry on da boat:

    Translated: What are you doing you stupid aussie xunt, with those numbers get your country back to work FFS.

    My advice?
    Two announcements:
    1. All restrictions lifted from now.
    2. If you think you are at risk, take appropriate precautions.

    Now stand back and let the bloody economy do its self correcting stuff.
    The Invisible Hand has done its job for millennia, it doesn’t need anyone’s massive bloody ego to get moving.

  165. Struth

    Please go to yearly overall deaths 2019, or maybe 2018, and get this years overall death figures for 2020.
    Divide by the months.
    What I have found, you know, being a spooky conspiracy theorist, is it was easy to do that at the start, now it’s getting harder to get.

  166. MemoryFault

    Bruce of Newcastle

    Hello Bruce,
    Help please. What do baby pigeons eat?
    Has feathers, but still downy on belly. Obviously can’t fly yet.
    Has drunk some water – I think.
    Marilyn used to take care of these things – I’m desperate.

  167. feelthebern

    Chappelle & Bill Burr did a live gig on youtube today.
    Zero notice, just boom we’re on live.
    I can’t find an upload of it so maybe it was just the live version & that was it.

  168. harrys on the boat

    If the intention is to have zero

    The intention is complete economic ruin, a few more weeks to run yet.

  169. Infidel Tiger King

    If the intention is to have zero, or few cases, at what point do they re open the State?

    2035 or a vaccine. Whichever is later.

  170. Come off it Fisk, the economy is fucked.

    That has always seen immigration plummet.

    Of course there is an influence, but it isn’t the primary driver of prices.

    The strongest effect to weakest is GDP to immigration, GDP to house prices and lastly immigration to prices.

    Just look at the data for 1982-1983 and 1991 to 1993.

    For heaven’s sake, the government takes 46% of a new house as TAX, after you’ve paid income tax and your employer has paid payroll tax for the privilege of giving you a job.

    Housing affordability is an issue largely because of government greed.

  171. Hay Stockardu

    Fugget. Going to have to watch the News. Restrictions being raised formAnzac Day.

  172. Bruce of Newcastle

    Hello Bruce,
    Help please. What do baby pigeons eat?

    Peter MV – I’ve two crested pigeons who come by. They eat bread with gusto, then feed kiddies with regurgitated bread-and-water sludge.

    So I’d do that – turn white bread into a porridge and squirt it in with an eye dropper, if you have one.

  173. Struth

    2015 57 million died
    18 million so far this year

    Globally deaths up to end of April 2015 is 19 million.
    Global deaths this year up to end of April 18 million.

    Oh dear…………………….

  174. Infidel Tiger King

    Dot are you still sprinkling open borders?

    Very sad.

  175. Infidel Tiger King

    Housing affordability is an issue largely because of government greed.

    Yes. The immigration ponzi.

  176. MemoryFault

    Thanks Bruce.
    No bread, but English muffins – I assume they will do?
    No eye dropper but large bore 10ml syringe – should work.
    Will that sustain it – sounds pretty meagre?

  177. Helen Davidson (nmrn)

    If the intention is to have zero, or few cases, at what point do they re open the State?

    The NT has had 28 cases, the last one identified on 6 April (16 days ago). Of theses, 15 have recovered, so currently 13 active cases. No deaths, none currently in ICU, although I understand one person was for a short period of time.

    While kids officially went back to school on Monday, nothing else has been officially lifted yet.

    Although to be fair, we didn’t shut down to the same extent the others did.

  178. Leigh Lowe

    The call-center person who took the call said that it sounded like a matter for the police to investigate, as it could be construed as a threat against the Premier!

    That call didn’t originate from Melbourne’s inner west by any chance?

  179. Struth

    And with a larger overall population this year.

    Oh dear………………….

  180. Bruce of Newcastle

    Dirty Dan’s Dobber Line, set up to report qwuarantine breaches

    Dick pic central.

    De Blasio’s social distancing tip line flooded with penis photos, Hitler memes (21 Apr)

    Mayor Bill de Blasio’s critics let him know how they really felt about him ordering New Yorkers to snitch on each other for violating social-distancing rules—by flooding his new tip line with crank complaints including “dick pics” and people flipping the bird, The Post has learned.

    A police line-up could be salable to all sorts of interesting websites.

  181. Mark A

    Any grain will do rice etc.

  182. Leigh Lowe

    Bruce of Newcastle

    Hello Bruce,
    Help please. What do baby pigeons eat?

    That depends a lot on what you want the cooked pigeon to taste like.
    Just like corn-fed chicken.

  183. Gab

    2015 57 million died
    18 million so far this year

    Globally deaths up to end of April 2015 is 19 million.
    Global deaths this year up to end of April 18 million.

    What is the source of this data?

  184. Bruce of Newcastle

    Will that sustain it – sounds pretty meagre?

    Peter – Give it enough and it’ll thrive. I have whole generations of wild birds that eat bread and nothing much else. Man may not live by bread alone but pigeondom certainly can do so.

  185. areff

    A short video explaining everything you ever wanted to known about traditional indigenous neon-tube art.

    Yes, really.

    https://www.ngv.vic.gov.au/multimedia/iconography-in-modern-art-forms/

  186. Leigh Lowe

    From the Oz:-

    Coronavirus Australia Live Updates: Scott Morrison to push for WHO to be given ‘weapons inspector powers’

    FMD!
    What do you reckon the Marxist xunt running WHO would do with that?
    Inspect Chunk wet markets?
    Nup.
    Some WHO flunky would write a paper about “right wing extremists in the US being a health hazard” and demand search and seizure powers.
    Or shut down ciggy factories and Coca Cola plants on a whim.
    Jeez, what a maroon.

  187. Bruce of Newcastle

    Any grain will do rice etc.

    Mark – It sounds a bit young for that. My crested pigeons feed their kiddies well after they’re fully equipped with feathers. The kids chase the parents around and try to shove their beaks down the parent’s necks.

    Then they slowly transition over to solid food by learning from the parents – which is when you could do seeds and bread bits etc.

  188. Leigh Lowe

    A short video explaining everything you ever wanted to known about traditional indigenous neon-tube art.

    Yes, really.

    Is that related to the ancient art of dot painting using Dulux acrylic Weathershield and masonite board?

  189. Infidel Tiger King

    The last UN weapons inspectors caused the greatest foreign policy disaster in 100 years.

    What could go wrong?

  190. Struth

    What is the source of this data?

    Worldometer and 2015 is basically the latest firm figure to take.

  191. Mark A

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #3423883, posted on April 22, 2020 at 3:30 pm

    You could be right (you are) I’m going on what we feed the young chicks of the chook variety.
    Same as the adults but smaller pellets.
    I suppose wild birds are different.

  192. Johno

    So, browsing through the news.com website today I came upon an interview with Demi Moore. She is explaining why her marriage to Bruce Willis ended.

    She wrote: “Bruce and I were trapped in our dance. He felt locked out by my self-reliance which hurt him in ways he couldn’t face and fed his ambivalence about our marriage.”

    I need to share my hurt,I refuse to apologise.

  193. harrys on the boat

    Coronavirus Australia Live Updates: Scott Morrison to push for WHO to be given ‘weapons inspector powers’

    Probably why Trump rang. Heard that and called Scomao to pull his fucking head in.

  194. areff

    Is that related to the ancient art of dot painting using Dulux acrylic Weathershield and masonite board?

    I’d direct that question to the curator, who was last observed by human eyes as a reflection on a polished shield in a deep, dark labyrinth. Apparently, at some point between then and now, they re-attached her head.

  195. MemoryFault

    That depends a lot on what you want the cooked pigeon to taste like.

    Leigh,
    While I’m not exactly a religious person, I do allow for the possibility that somewhere “up there”, the spirit of a fiery tempered little Irish Catholic Redhead is looking down.

    Even as a mere mortal she could inflict serious damage when her temper was up. I’m not about to risk finding out what her immortal spirit is capable of, if such a thing exists. I’m a coward like that.

  196. Legalise Sedition
    #3423513, posted on April 22, 2020 at 9:40 am
    hard right of the Liberal party

    This literally had me in tears.

    I like this new guy

  197. Struth

    The extent to the shut down is not as important as you allowing them to shut you down at all.

    We have had no deaths in Qld and our wonderously generous Fuhrerin Palaschook is so pleased with us she is now letting us see our aged relatives, then we must get back inside………………..

    God bless our mighty Leader!!!!

  198. Bruce of Newcastle

    I’m going on what we feed the young chicks of the chook variety.

    Mark – We kept chickens when I was a kid, the chicks are born with the instinct to peck. The parents don’t feed them, but do show them where food is.

    I don’t know about ordinary pigeons but crested pigeons feed their young by regurgitation directly into the kids’ beaks for a fair length of time.

    I was outside just now giving some bread to the crested pigeon pair. They’re too dumb to accept food from my hand, but they’ll happily wander around my feet picking up crumbs. They’ve fledged lots of kids since they became Cafe Bruce customers, two at a time.

  199. MemoryFault

    Thanks Bruce.
    I’ll feed Boofhead then get right on to it.

  200. Nick

    Coronavirus Australia Live Updates: Scott Morrison to push for WHO to be given ‘weapons inspector powers’

    Send in the Pangolin Squad!

  201. Mark from Melbourne

    Staff on standby in wards set up for the big rush. Twiddling their thumbs at the moment I guess and will return to their normal roles.

    Local nurse who is in ICU at the Alfred (which is Danstan’s designated trauma ICU… recently a bit over doubled in size to three full floors to handle the wuhan influx). She’s been an ICU nurse for 6+ years, so no newbie.

    Was informed last Friday that she would now be getting only two shifts a week, down from 5 (0r 6). Tells me that the place is basically deserted… 80% less road trauma, and – worryingly – something like 50% less heart attacks and other generic health problems. Quite a bit of which she thinks (anecdotally) is due to a combo of “save the health system” and “hospital bad”, and which is turning up in people calling 000 later, and thus avoiding hospital by heading straight to the morgue.

  202. Struth

    Feeding the chooks meant something completely different amongst us young fellas years ago.

  203. Bruce of Newcastle

    I came upon an interview with Demi Moore. She is explaining why her marriage to Bruce Willis ended.

    Would that be the same Bruce Willis who has been in quarantine lately?

    Bruce Willis STILL in quarantine with ex Demi Moore while his wife Emma Heming tends to their two young daughters (14 Apr)

    Bruce Willis’ daughter explains why he is quarantined with ex Demi Moore instead of wife Emma Heming (22 Apr)

    Hopefully Ms Heming won’t throw him off the Nakatomi building.

  204. pete m

    Mv contact wildlife rescue service in your area and get 1 of their ppl to care for it

  205. EvilElvis

    Prime Minister Scott Morrison encouraged any workers who are sacked after requesting JobKeeper to contact Fair Work.

    “I would be concerned about any behaviour by employers that was coercive and be very keen for that to be relayed to Fair Work and the ombudsman and others to ensure that we can take action on those cases where they are presented,’’ he said.

    “The employer can obviously ask you to do the $750 actual rate of pay of work. That is not an unreasonable request that someone would work the hours.”

    However, the Prime Minister’s office later qualified that answer and said it was not correct to suggest workers can be asked to do more hours to secure the $750-a-week JobKeeper.

    They can only be asked to reduce hours to get the $1500 JobKeeper payment, for example if they have been stood down, but not asked to increase them.

    Treasurer Josh Frydenberg has also warned employers cannot “cherry pick” the staff they want to receive the $1500 JobKeeper payment as evidence emerges of widespread confusion and rorting of the rules.

    The Australian Taxation Office has declared a “one in, all in” rule applies to eligible employees whether they have been stood down or are a long-term casual worker facing reduced hours.

    But multiple workers have contacted news.com.au to complain bosses have told them they will not be applying for JobKeeper on the advice of an accountant or that they plan to pick and choose which workers secure the $1500 a fortnight payment.

    Victorian Trades Hall secretary Luke Hilakari said the issue was just starting to “blow up”.

    “There is no accountability for the employer. It relies on their goodwill,” he said.

    As a small business person why would you bother. Confusing sentiment from the same government and the usual suspects in the ATO and fairwork just waiting to fuck you over. Oh yeah, it’s paid in arrears to. Not only shall you be the collector of tax but now you can go into debt for employees because we’ve made the rules after pulling the big decision with as usual, no skin in the game. Liberals, FMD what a pack of xunts lording over the greatest boon for the fucking public service in its history.

  206. bespoke

    Howard Hill
    #3423365, posted on April 22, 2020 at 6:58 am
    So what in your opinion, bespoke is really going on?

    Extreme overreaction driven by agenda hysteria and that something Iv been against from the start.
    I also support and defend the right of those vulnerable including Diggers to make decisions for them selves without harassment from people with no skin in the game.

    And don’t you live in Gippsland? Not many people there to make collecting $1600.00 dollar fines worth it.

    No

  207. Hard Right Partee
    It’s a winner.
    HRP is a good alphabet name though.
    So we’ll use HR instead.
    Everyone is in fear of the HR crew in they workplace.
    Force multiplier though.
    The sheep are already at max reaction level. Interestingly, the very same fear level pushes many common sense normies straight into MAGA territory.
    A lot are awake now. More to follow with the mea culpas, and bullshit to come in the months ahead from these traitors.
    Hehehe, we are the revolution now, mofos!
    AltRight

  208. EvilElvis

    Sorry, above quote was from an NT News article about an employee complaining to her boss about having to work the hours to make up her $750 a week Jobkeeper.

  209. Bruce of Newcastle

    Thanks Bruce.
    I’ll feed Boofhead then get right on to it.

    That solves the problem. Yum! 😀

  210. MemoryFault

    Feeding the chooks meant something completely different amongst us young fellas years ago.

    Joh Bjelke’s favourite term for a press conference.

  211. Johno

    Bruce I don’t care what their living arrangements are. No-one should be allowed to say things like that.

    Demi is a good looking woman but shit like that just freezes all the pathways in the scone. That is is a two day fat freezer that one.

  212. thefrollickingmole

    Fisky
    #3423812, posted on April 22, 2020 at 2:05 pm
    Economists insisted there was no relationship between immigration and house prices on the upswing, but are now predicting price Armageddon on the down.

    Indeed, its almost like creating demand via population growth is a massive ponzi scheme or something.
    But dont worry political parties insist we havent imported enough people to effectively nullify the pale stale male vote via carefully curated voting blocks.

    And we know they wouldnt lie.

  213. MemoryFault

    That solves the problem. Yum!

    Don’t even joke about it Bruce.
    It was Boofhead who brought it in, in the first place – about 2.oo am.
    I’ve spent the entire bloody day keeping it safe from him.
    Murderous swine.

  214. Who the fuck is Stefan Jonas and what has ever done in his miserable life?

    https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/govts-super-withdrawal-scheme-borders-on-illegal-jones/ar-BB130CNn?ocid=spartandhp

    A stoush has erupted between the two major parties over the government’s superannuation withdrawal scheme, with Labor accusing a Liberal senator of distributing financial advice that “borders on illegal”.
    Shadow Assistant Treasurer Stephan Jones accused Andrew Bragg of attempting to undermine the system and said he would be lodging a formal complaint.

    “It’s no secret that Senator Andrew Bragg has been running a campaign against superannuation … and I’ve seen documents that he has circulated under his letterhead encouraging Australians to access the scheme, irrespective and without any information about the eligibility criteria,” Mr Jones told Sky News.

    No doubt a union stooge who wants to keep the virtually insolvent industry funds running as a slush for for the ACTU and ALP.

  215. Struth

    Now Tailgunner.
    Could you please speak in the language of your forebears just for a little bit to me.
    English.
    What I would like to know dear Mr Tailgunner, sir, is if your trade qualified work companions have seen the light and are , as one would say,……….fucking pissed off?

  216. Bruce of Newcastle

    Here’s a picture of my feet for Peter MV.
    From a couple minutes ago.

  217. Indeed, its almost like creating demand via population growth is a massive ponzi scheme or something.

    You can raise taxes, cut spending, increase the population or cut benefits and pensions.

    The obvious thing to do is cut spending and taxes, which would make raising a family more affordable, but we’ve prioritised our political choices to last.

    The electorate would rather an immigration policy they don’t really like over capitalism and the growth of stable families.

    Now, it’s high taxes to subsidise daycare so mummy can work in Bunnings and sell packets of nails to strangers, rather than spend time with her kids, to pay for the mortgage, which is expensive because taxes are so high.

    It is just a massive and quality of life destroying false economy.

  218. Struth

    Similar to choking the chicken, MV.

    If you pretend to feed chooks, scattering the seed around, all will be clear.

  219. I would actually like the government to cave on superannuation as a stimulus measure and let everyone draw down at least 20k. It is a better option than public spending and it benefits me personally.

    It would have let bills be paid and so on.

    Nope, instead we get Keynes, bailouts and whinging spivs talking about their entitlements to OPM.

  220. Gunner

    The Nazis are back in Germany. You don’t really want them back. The Stasi was just a change of uniform.

    Read this.

    Fucking outrageous.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/german-lawyer-who-criticized-lockdown-arrested-taken-psych-ward

  221. Coronavirus Australia Live Updates: Scott Morrison to push for WHO to be given ‘weapons inspector powers’

    Holy fuck. What a totalitarian douchebag.
    The UN already dictate energy policy now he wants to hand them health too?

  222. Coronavirus Australia Live Updates: Scott Morrison to push for WHO to be given ‘weapons inspector powers’

    This poor stupid ***t should be running a real estate shop in Caringbah and nothing more.

  223. Struth

    This poor stupid ***t should be running a real estate shop in Caringbah and nothing more.

    I know you are just venting, but he’s not stupid, he’s a traitor, and I’m saying he should receive as punishment what all traitors should receive…………………………………………….

  224. Leigh Lowe

    Coronavirus Australia Live Updates: Scott Morrison to push for WHO to be given ‘weapons inspector powers’

    An excellent parallel.
    Chunks start throwing Aldi bags around and buying favours.
    Government invokes foreign influence powers.
    Who does the bureacracy target first?
    The Chunks?
    Nup.
    Tony Abbott for wanting to attend a Conservative talk-fest.
    This is exactly how WHO would use any increased powers.

  225. thefrollickingmole

    It is just a massive and quality of life destroying false economy.

    No disagreement, but the government has abandoned the implicit pact which was “give us some of your money and we will leave the place a little better for you and your kids”.

    Instead they want to perfect mankind with just…one…more…regulation.
    And given what you say about taxation is basically correct they have decided its easier to import people from shittier countries who will improve their living standards just by being here, rather than dealing with the older “original Aussies” cohort.

    https://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/[email protected]/mf/3105.0.65.001
    From 2001 to 2016, Australia’s population increased by just over 25% to reach 24 million in 2016. Overseas migration is now the main driver of Australia’s population growth, accounting for just over 55% of Australia’s population increase since 2001.

    Thats 25% mainly inner city/wedded to a major party voters to ensure the uniparty doesnt get disturbed by those who expect more/better than what we get.

  226. Jeff Kennett giving Victoria’s government a decent spray

  227. Leigh Lowe

    Black Ball

    #3423949, posted on April 22, 2020 at 4:16 pm

    Jeff Kennett giving Victoria’s government a decent spray

    Where?

  228. MemoryFault

    Here’s a picture of my feet for Peter MV.

    Thanks, Bruce. Just what I always wanted – I shall cherish it.
    The bird is about three times the size of mine.
    It’s one of those with a tuft on its head and they make a whistling noise when they fly.

  229. Gab

    Worldometer and 2015 is basically the latest firm figure to take.

    Thanks but you had figures for this year as well. I cannot find any current figures for global deaths – not just covid related.

  230. areff

    3AW… wait until the post audio. Steam coming out of his ears

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