Thursday Forum: April 23, 2020

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  1. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Morning, all!

  2. Roger

    The Bee gets a banner on the Cat!

  3. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    New Pell probe puts release of sex abuse royal commission redactions on hold

    John Ferguson
    ASSOCIATE EDITOR
    @fergusonjw
    11:00PM April 22, 2020

    Victorian authorities are still weighing up whether to support the release of redacted child sex abuse royal commission com­men­tary about Cardinal George Pell.

    The federal Attorney-General, Christian Porter, has written to the Andrews government to determine whether it is now possible to release dozens of pages of the final abuse report, which includes commentary on Cardinal Pell.

    Mr Porter wrote to Victorian authorities last week seeking clarification from the government and investigators about whether the commission redactions could now safely be made public.

    The letter was sent after a ­Herald Sun report suggested another complainant had emerged whose story was being examined by ­Victoria Police.

    The Australian understands the Andrews government favours a quick release of the redactions, but police are yet to formally state whether this should happen.

    Premier Dan Andrews spoke to Scott Morrison soon after the High Court quashed Cardinal Pell’s five sex convictions and freed him from Barwon Prison, where he finished the last of his 405 days in solitary confinement.

    Mr Andrews called for the royal commission commentary to be released. It is understood Mr Porter’s letter was sent to ­Victorian Attorney-General Jill Hennessy last week, and she will have to give the go-ahead.

    The Premier’s strident call for the royal commission comment­ary to be released underpins where the government’s position is on the matter. The only stumb­ling block would be if police and prosecutors believed the release of the information could harm any future possible court action.

    The Australian is not suggesting Cardinal Pell will be charged and police have refused to say if they are investi­gating the cardinal. It was reported that a complainant had emerged and spoken to police about events in the 1970s.

    A series of people have spoken to police about Cardinal Pell but only one complainant managed to make it through the court system­, leading to the 78-year-old cardinal’s jailing.

    The five convictions were thrown out by the High Court.

    Counsel assisting the child sex abuse royal commission submitted that Cardinal Pell was involved­ in knowingly helping shuffle serial sex-offender priest Gerald Ridsdale between parishes while Cardinal Pell was serving as a consulter to disgraced Ballarat bishop Ronald Mulkearns. Cardinal Pell denies any knowledge of Ridsdale’s wrongdoing.

    The royal commission also heard that while he was an auxil­iary bishop in Melbourne, Cardinal Pell failed to act on allegations of violent and sexual misconduct by a dysfunctional and now dead priest called Peter Searson.

    Cardinal Pell said Searson’s activities, like Ridsdale’s, had been kept from him, but counsel assisting argued there was no attemp­t by others in the church to deceive him. Cardinal Pell was an auxiliary bishop before being appointed archbishop of Melbourne in 1996.

    The Office of Public Prosecutions declined to comment.

    It is understood lawyers for Cardinal Pell are not attempting to stop publication of the royal commission redactions.

    From the Oz.

  4. calli

    Five Go to Smugglers’ Top

  5. Cardimona

    Is anyone able to read every comment on every thread?

    If so, how many hours per day does that take?

  6. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Lest We Forget

    Thank you, woolfe.

  7. calli

    Bother. I thought Blyton would go nicely with Bee. Zulu!

    *taps foot*

  8. Rex Mango

    This Thread is herby dedicated to all those pathetic people who turned 18 in the last few weeks & are yet to have a drink in a public house.

  9. Cassie of Sydney

    From the previous thread…

    The other night, the excrement from Toowoomba posted a lengthy screed (as he does frequently) about the anniversary of the Oklahoma bombing atrocity. As he likes to do…the piece of filth liked to snidely infer that most of us here supported that atrocity in Oklahoma twenty-five years ago.

    Anyway….a few days ago was the one year anniversary of the Sri Lanka Muesli massacres of mostly Christians….in churches…does anyone recall the piece of excrement from Toowoomba posting a screed about the anniversary of those atrocities and condemning them?

  10. calli

    From the OOT

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    I have instructed the United States Navy to shoot down and destroy any and all Iranian gunboats if they harass our ships at sea.

    Getting ready for Ramadamadingdong.

  11. Gab

    Is anyone able to read every comment on every thread?

    Heavens no. I have a day job.

  12. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Lorbek on Facebook denying the car has anything to do with them.

    “Well, they would say that, wouldn’t they?”

  13. stackja

    The private is still angry.
    Scrolling, scrolling…

  14. stackja

    Gab – And I need to sleep a lot.

  15. rickw

    ABC asking us to thank a copper if we see them today. Spokesman from Police Association was saying that what they were doing was routine, happens 10-20 times each shift everyday, but, they are heroes because they were killed yesterday in an accident? People are occasionally killed in workplace accidents, like construction workers, but we don’t lionize them as heroes. Oh, they may retort: they died in the line of duty! And the construction worker wasn’t? A lot of smoke blowing going on this morning.

    The Construction Worker has a choice what he does on the job, the Police have a choice where they pull people over. No one would call a Construction Worker a hero for doing a job near an unprotected edge and then falling off the building.

  16. iain russell

    The woolfe-man, indeed a great article!

  17. Carpe Jugulum

    Morning All

    Top Twenny boo yah

  18. calli

    And today in Glowball Worming another Yesterday’s Man has a dig.

    A question: what is “science denial”?

    It sounds suspiciously like heresy.

    “Science” being the new religion and all.

  19. Leigh Lowe

    Pray tell, when Mr LLC-001 hands himself in to Plod, what will he be charged with?
    Unless he decides to plead to avoid further heat, what can he be found guilty of?
    1. Speeding? Where is the evidence? Do they have clean footage from a pursuit car?
    2. Drug/Drink driving? Hmmm. Good luck retrieving the straw/swab from the debris and getting it to stick in Court.
    3. Leaving the scene? Arguably he wasn’t party to the accident. He wasn’t in his car when it was struck. He is no more or less culpable than any other passer-by.
    I will await Googlery QC’s opinion though.

  20. Sean

    According to one French theory. Smoking might prevent COVID

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/22/french-study-suggests-smokers-at-lower-risk-of-getting-coronavirus

    Does this mean the tobacco tax is actually punishing a product that would save the health system billions of dollars…

  21. iain russell

    Cassie of S, indeed. I have written to the Canberra Times about the total lack of mention in the LSM but do not expect to be published.

  22. Leigh Lowe

    4. False plates. Maybe that is all they can stick him with.
    And perhaps throw in a choir boy with Willy Wonka eyes for good measure.

  23. twostix

    ASHTON: Porsche driver is known to police, has an extensive criminal history. Appears he posted photos of the scene to Facebook last night – police working with platform to have photos removed @7NewsMelbourne

    Have we seen a photo or name of the Porsche driver yet?

    Swat teams battering down his friends and families doors?

    No.

    Victoria.

    Obvious is obvious.

  24. calli

    Square dancing in a round house.

  25. twostix

    Obviously the porche driver who is “known to police” and has an “extensive criminal history” is a protected man in Victoria, which is why he feels free to drive like that everywhere.

    When we find out who he is it’s going to be something unsurprising.

  26. harrys on the boat

    Appears he posted photos of the scene to Facebook last night

    Todays world. Witness to a horrific incident. Help the wounded? Secure the scene? No, take pictures, leg it, post on social media.

    Sick world. Literally.

  27. dover_beach

    Mitchell now promoting painting the town ‘blue’. Our elites are now falling over themselves to oblige.

  28. John Brumble

    Repost:
    Democrat leaders of the worst 11 US states (by deaths per million) have presided over more deaths in less than three months from COVID-19 than 60% of the entirety of US casualties in the whole of the Vietnam War. But it’s worse than that. That 37,600 deaths in 3 months (12,533 per month)? That’s more than the deaths per month in WW2(9311). By a lot. That’s right, Democrats and Democrat policies in the US are literally worse for US people than Hitler and Stalin combined.
    And it gets even worse. Since the US was kept (relatively) out of WW1, the next point of comparison was the American Civil War. In no war in history have more Americans died. From 12 April 1861 to 9 April 1865, 620,000 Americans died: 12916 per month.
    “Phew”, you say… because you’re an idealogical idiot who doesn’t care if people die because of people and policies you supports. But if you do, you’ll have missed something. You’ll have missed that I fudged the length of time over which Americans have died from Coronavirus. Because it’s not over 3 months. It was from March 16. And the number I used for total deaths? Deflated by more than the total number of people who died in the US from March 16 to March 23.
    So the real number who died on their watch? 37,600 per month. Almost three times the number of deaths per month than the worst conflict in US history. The Democrats are worse than Hitler, Stalin and slavery combined.

  29. calli

    Like the endless clapping, all the slavering adulation does is diminish the people who perished.

    It becomes something narcissistic, look how I feeeeeel, how I respond. Everyone with an open mic or instagram page must say something.

    Cashing in on tragedy.

  30. stackja

    Vic police have a problem created by their past. If an open investigation reveals all maybe a solution. Lawyer X and Vic police and Vic police did what about GP?

  31. The Democrats are worse than Hitler, Stalin and slavery combined.

    So the Democrats are responsible for the virus and the deaths.
    Now that’s a variation on the theme that it was the Communist Chinese.
    Make your mind up.
    You will really need to get the identity of the debil debil sorted before you go any further.

  32. Boambee John

    stackja
    #3425013, posted on April 23, 2020 at 10:22 am
    BA – TDS?

    Bird??

  33. Overburdened

    https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/you-kick-people-to-death-fired-up-eddie-shuts-down-caro/news-story/db6c1278d462b15fe545bfa2742dacd7

    Eddie McGuire and Caroline Wilson are two of the most odious shit eaters and spreaders that I can think of in a long line of similar fuckwits.

    The good news is the majority of people on the planet have no idea who these clowns are.

    The issue at hand is the hoary spectre of the mental health of some bozo caught driving pissed and to protect his fragile ego he will not be facing the media.

    Fuck that.

    The problem is that the social trend to not blaming and shaming has given these pricks license to be stupid and dangerous to others.

    I’m sure as a now former leader of a footy club, his ego and self belief is intact on the field.

    Suddenly he is a shrinking violet after being busted for being a menace.

    Toughen up you turd and face your critics.

  34. More from the Miami Herald.
    Florida has a Republican governor.
    Florida neared 1,000 deaths and surpassed 28,500 novel coronavirus cases as Florida’s Department of Health confirmed 707 more cases and 60 new deaths since Tuesday evening.

    A

    s of Wednesday evening, Florida totaled 28,576 cases and the death toll reached 927, a 7 percent jump over Tuesday night’s death toll. Health officials reported 267 additional cases of COVID-19 and 34 new deaths were reported since Wednesday morning.

    Of the 60 new deaths, 44 were in South Florida.

    Twenty-one people between the ages of 48 and 96 died in Broward, raising the county’s death toll to 147.

  35. areff

    Mitchell now promoting painting the town ‘blue’

    Trioli has Blainey on soon. Yes, you have to put with ABC smuggery, but that beats Mitchell’s four-people-are-dead-and-now-it’s-all-about-me schtick

  36. John Brumble

    What variation you malingering ghoul?
    You realise that the handles you share your Stalinist fantasies with on here are for different people, right?
    Numbers Bob – happy that people die for his ideologies and selfishness since malingering in Vietnam.
    Is there any point at which you’d re-examine your bigotry? No, of course not.

  37. Bruce of Newcastle

    A question: what is “science denial”?

    Regarding climate science it’s ignoring the thousands of published scientific studies and the extensive data showing that global warming is mild and harmless.

    Interesting how the gigo COVID-19 models are now in the limelight. One might ask if the gigo CAGW models are similarly overdone for scare value.

  38. stackja

    Vic police “protected” secret?

  39. twostix

    Todays world. Witness to a horrific incident. Help the wounded? Secure the scene? No, take pictures, leg it, post on social media.

    Sick world. Literally.

    No he was posting the “gruesome” photos mocking the police.

    This guy is a known criminal who is known to the police who feels completely safe ripping around Victorian roads at 140kph despite being caught on camera and dobbed in before (many times it will turn out).

    Who despite him hanging around and taking photos of the carnage and dead mangled bodies of police officers from a massive accident that happened right before his very eyes, posting them to facebook, then trotting off into the night, the notoriously punitive Victorian police haven’t battered down every door of his associates looking for him.

    He felt perfectly safe doing all of this.

    Instead we read this:

    ‘He is from Cranbourne and we did a warrant through the night at his premises,’ he said. ‘What was found at that premises is still the subject of ongoing investigation.’

    Ok, Victoria.

    That’ll do.

  40. Bruce of Newcastle

    Twenty-one people between the ages of 48 and 96 died in Broward, raising the county’s death toll to 147.

    Broward County…
    I wonder if Numbers knows anything about Broward?

  41. calli

    Interesting thing about “warming” and C19. Isn’t warming a protection against the Dreaded Pestilence?

    No one seems to want to go there. Odd.

  42. nfw

    Don’t forget “We’re all in this together” which translates as “I’m an SJW virtue signaller or politician or public servant or all the above and am still being paid while you are not.”

    And when Scott Chamberlain Morrison says “Anzac Spirt” it means “I never wore a uniform but am trying to prove I’m not a coward.”

  43. Overburdened

    I will say that in my increasingly episodic professional experience, the general population is as soft as putty with self esteem well beyond their personal capacities and skin so thin you can see their veins.

    This societal trend of not having to perform and achieve, or be responsible and held to account has ironically led to some of the dumbest shits being the most opinionated and blaming of people, and this has become an accepted norm as well.

    Bring back merit and strong moral fibre.

  44. areff

    Blainey on now — 774. Leave Mitchell to wallow in his crocodile tears

  45. John Brumble

    Florida – traditionally considered the US home of the elderly and still five times better than the average of the worst 11 Democrat States. But Numbers “I don’t care if people die so long as they die under socialism” Bob thinks pointing this out is helping his “cause.”
    But you don’t care about people dying, do you, Numbers? Not if it’s inconvenient.

  46. cohenite

    From the sick fuck troll:

    So the Democrats are responsible for the virus and the deaths.
    Now that’s a variation on the theme that it was the Communist Chinese.

    The demorats are the pawns of the chunks. There is no doubt of that. Every one of the creatures from fienstein to sleepy joe have massive financial connections with the chunks.

    Of course the vile creep troll would find that amusing.

    Why is it still here. Why isn’t it dead.

  47. Hay Stockard

    Scan,
    I have been testing that theory myself. So far, so good.

  48. John Brumble

    There are about 28,000 dead people from the worst 11 Democrat states who might have prayed as they lay gasping for their last breath that they lived in Florida.

  49. stackja

    Vic police don’t want full RC report ever released? Will keep “discovering” new “allegations”?

  50. Overburdened

    Strange to say about their thin skin when most types I see in a work situation are bucket arsed fatties with no muscle tone and a pampered life of takeaway food and television or online sedentary activity.

    This applies to the workers as well as the punters.

    Fuckn hopeless.

  51. cohenite

    Anyway I posted this on the last thread and its worth repeating. The fat idiot Michael moore has a partial epiphany and has produced this scathing indictment of wind and solar. The great Shellenberger comments on the movie here.

  52. feelthebern

    It is a 911.
    I reckon it would have taken about 3-4 hours to narrow his address down to a couple of blocks.

    Try about 5mins.
    I asked a 911 driving mate yesterday was he in Melb yesterday (he lives in Sydney so clearly some dark attempted comedy on my behalf).
    He said you can’t insure anything in that price range in Oz unless it’s got satellite tracking.
    Do any Cats who drive that high end stuff know if that’s the case?

  53. C.L.

    Pray tell, when Mr LLC-001 hands himself in to Plod, what will he be charged with?
    Unless he decides to plead to avoid further heat, what can he be found guilty of?
    1. Speeding? Where is the evidence? Do they have clean footage from a pursuit car?
    2. Drug/Drink driving? Hmmm. Good luck retrieving the straw/swab from the debris and getting it to stick in Court.
    3. Leaving the scene? Arguably he wasn’t party to the accident. He wasn’t in his car when it was struck. He is no more or less culpable than any other passer-by.

    All good questions.
    I guess there’s a record of his speed – even if only when radioed during the pursuit.
    That’s a speeding ticket. Leaving the scene his brief will attribute to shock.

    As for his, um, cultural background, he’s not screaming Skip to me.

  54. Hay Stockard

    Cohenite,
    Have you a précis of the film? I would rather stick my thumb in my eye that watch or listen to anything from that hideous bloated leftard toad.

  55. Old School Conservative

    In a world where those undergoing gender reassignment are deemed as being heroes

    Let’s not forget the Masterchef-inspired “..and the hero of this dish is…”

    “hero” is overused today and has lost much of its true meaning.

  56. Infidel Tiger King

    If those coppers are allowed more than 10 people at their funerals Victoria, don’t say you weren’t warned.

    Police states have very different rules for different people.

  57. cohenite

    Cohenite,
    Have you a précis of the film? I would rather stick my thumb in my eye that watch or listen to anything from that hideous bloated leftard toad.

    The Shellenberger article does the job:

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2020/04/21/new-michael-moore-backed-documentary-on-youtube-reveals-massive-ecological-impacts-of-renewables/#4a640f2e6c96

  58. Bruce of Newcastle

    I think it’s funny that, in the last 12 months, both Michael Moore and Bob Brown have had an epiphany about wind turbines. I wonder what has changed?

  59. Leo G

    Does this mean the tobacco tax is actually punishing a product that would save the health system billions of dollars…

    It may just mean that the researchers have not realised that a physiological response to smoking involves a reduction in the permeability of lung tissue to fine particulates.

  60. Joanna Smythe

    This is how this Presidency has worked since the beginning. The Democrats and media throw out an accusation, the media hype it up for weeks, the President watches, listens, throws out the odd Twitter, lets them get on with it, the truth gradually emerges, the original accusation disappears and another emerges. The same scenario plays out again. This time we have the virus. Trump lets the experts get on the stage each day, they tell us what we should do, Trump accepts what they say, agrees with them, says they are the experts and he is listening to them. Eventually, as usual, their claims will be debunked, Trump will say he just followed the expert advice and we move on to the next Democrat, media accusation. There is still time for a couple more before the election.

  61. woolfe

    I see Cuba has more CV19 deaths / million than Australia. At least they are dying in cheerful squallor i suppose.

  62. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    DNA may not be life’s instruction book—just a jumbled list of ingredients
    In two new papers, Jose argues that DNA is just the ingredient list, not the set of instructions used to build and maintain a living organism. The instructions, he says, are much more complicated, and they’re stored in the molecules that regulate a cell’s DNA and other functioning systems.

  63. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Why is it still here. Why isn’t it dead.

    patience little one, patience…

  64. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    It’s an ill wind that blows nobody good – my local hardware store reports a roaring trade in home renovation products..

  65. twostix

    They already know his address, they executed a search on his house warrant last night.

    Nobody home.

    Oh well, let’s hope you turn yourself in guy whose name and whereabouts the police already know because he’s a criminal of the type who drives a Porsche 911.

    But they aren’t going to tell the public who he or show one of his photo to us because he’s a….

    ___ fill in the gap.

    Bear in mind it’s Victoria.

  66. candy

    The situation of the truck driver is curious. Under police guard in hospital and his home searched. Looking for drugs or something?

    His health records would show any troubles. His company would have tested him etc? If he had stroke or fell asleep and went into the emergency lane at 100 kph. I guess there’s footage of that or other drivers saw how that occurred.

  67. Zatara

    Interesting thing about “warming” and C19. Isn’t warming a protection against the Dreaded Pestilence?

    calli

    The ‘Climate Change Institute’, among others, worked to produce this report which addressed the effects of heat and humidity on C19. So yeah, they know. They just haven’t massaged it into a marketable format for their agenda.

    Researchers Predict Potential Spread and Seasonality for COVID-19 Based on Climate Where Virus Appears to Thrive

    The University of Maryland mapped severe COVID-19 outbreaks with local weather patterns around the world, from the US to China. They found that the virus thrives in a certain temperature and humidity channel. “The researchers found that all cities experiencing significant outbreaks of COVID-19 have very similar winter climates with an average temperature of 41 to 52 degrees Fahrenheit, an average humidity level of 47% to 79% with a narrow east-west distribution along the same 30–50 N” latitude”, said the University of Maryland.

    The chart provided is quite thought provoking considering the temps and such are about to flip. Possibly meaning the real threat is yet to come south of the equator.

  68. woolfe

    Candy a commercial truck should have forward and driver dash cams.

  69. areff

    my local hardware store reports a roaring trade in home renovation products..

    Went to Bunnings the other day to get some PVC pipe and heavy duty clear plastic to make a greenhouse for winter tomatoes. The parking lot was chocka, absolutely chocka, so much so I gave it a miss and went home. Tradie utes lined up in the loading bay as I left.

  70. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    A few Strewth readers have been missing Caroline Overington’s joke of the day. So here’s one from Sky News reporter David Sharaz, who spotted Turnbull’s tome A Bigger Picture in the Fiction section of a Canberra book shop: “Is Malcolm Turnbull doing any media for his book? Just want to make sure I don’t miss it if he speaks.”

    From the Oz.

  71. pete m

    Leigh if his vehicle was damaged by the truck then he should have remained at scene.

    Usually cops record speeding before pulling over.

    I reckon this was going to be a full vehicle search to look for drugs.

  72. Leigh Lowe

    twostix

    #3425071, posted on April 23, 2020 at 11:00 am

    They already know his address, they executed a search on his house warrant last night.

    Nobody home.

    Are you sure.
    Not thinking of the truck driver are you?

  73. areff

    The chart provided is quite thought provoking considering the temps and such are about to flip. Possibly meaning the real threat is yet to come south of the equator.

    Just get BoM to homogenise Melbourne’s winter temperatures yet again and we’ll be perfectly safe.

  74. JMH

    Pray tell, when Mr LLC-001 hands himself in to Plod, what will he be charged with?

    Bail conditions breached, perhaps? Whoopty-do.

  75. Leigh Lowe

    pete m

    #3425078, posted on April 23, 2020 at 11:05 am

    Leigh if his vehicle was damaged by the truck then he should have remained at scene.

    OK, that was the kind of grey area I wasn’t sure of.

  76. cohenite

    Chinese Media Admits Coronavirus Still Raging: ‘Prevention Will Become a Protracted War’

    They really are gunning for Trump. This will be the new demorat talking point against opening up the economy.

  77. Perfidious Albino

    Re the Dr Luc (HIV) snippet on the former thread suggesting that Wuhan looks laboratory born – what odds he survives another month…

  78. Hay Stockard

    Overburdened,
    I could not agree with you more about the dumbest shits being the most opinionated
    They are also strident, quarrelsome and worst of all think they are the smartest in the room.
    Trying to think of any posters on here. No names, just numbers.

  79. Cassie of Sydney

    “Joanna Smythe
    #3425064, posted on April 23, 2020 at 10:54 am”

    Excellent post Joanna

  80. Leigh Lowe

    They’re quite graphic photos,” Mr Ashton said. Asked what he thought of the man’s actions, Mr Ashton said: “Well they’re disgusting”.

    “But I don’t want to pre-empt the interview with this fellow and what might flow from that.

    Doesn’t want to pre-empt, but “disgusting”.

  81. Leigh Lowe

    Pray tell, when Mr LLC-001 hands himself in to Plod, what will he be charged with?

    Actually, he will probably be charged with quite a lot.
    Then, on the steps of the court in six months time he will cop a plea for speeding and leaving the scene.

  82. thefrollickingmole

    Too good to leave on the old Fred…
    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/08/09/michael-moore-backed-doc-planet-of-the-humans-tackles-false-promises-of-green-energy/
    “It turned out the wakeup call was about our own side,” Gibbs said in a phone interview. “It was kind of crushing to discover that the things I believed in weren’t real, first of all, and then to discover not only are the solar panels and wind turbines not going to save us … but (also) that there is this whole dark side of the corporate money … It dawned on me that these technologies were just another profit center.”

    Both know the film is going to be a “tough pill to swallow.” It was a difficult eye-opener for them as well.

    “We all want to feel good about something like the electric car, but in the back of your head somewhere you’ve thought, ’Yeah, but where is the electricity coming from? And it’s like, ‘I don’t want to think about that, I’m glad we have electric cars,’” Moore said. “I’ve passed by the windmill farms, and oh it’s so beautiful to see them going, and don’t tell me that we’ve gone too far now and it isn’t going to save us … Well, my feeling is just hit me with everything. I’m like let’s just deal with it now, all at once.”

  83. thefrollickingmole

    1735099
    #3425030, posted on April 23, 2020 at 10:35 am
    More from the Miami Herald.
    Florida has a Republican governor.
    Florida neared 1,000 deaths and surpassed 28,500 novel coronavirus cases as Florida’s Department of Health confirmed 707 more cases and 60 new deaths since Tuesday evening.

    Dead Americans you say?
    fapfapfapfap
    COOOOMMMMIIIINNNGGG!!!

  84. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Pray tell, when Mr LLC-001 hands himself in to Plod, what will he be charged with?

    “Daily Tele” reports that he’s just been arrested, and, yes, the rozzers raided the truckie’s home.

  85. Leigh Lowe

    Who despite him hanging around and taking photos of the carnage and dead mangled bodies of police officers from a massive accident that happened right before his very eyes, posting them to facebook, then trotting off into the night, the notoriously punitive Victorian police haven’t battered down every door of his associates looking for him.

    He felt perfectly safe doing all of this.

    A long shot, I know, but he doesn’t have Willy Wonka chocolate drop eyes by any chance?

  86. Bruce of Newcastle

    “It turned out the wakeup call was about our own side,” Gibbs said in a phone interview.

    Hahahahahahahaha!
    Moore has outed renewbulls but is still all-in on the rest of the climate crud. I wonder when Gibbs will work out that the left has been just as dishonest about the whole CAGW thing as they have been about solar and wind energy?

  87. 8th Dan

    It is understood lawyers for Cardinal Pell are not attempting to stop publication of the royal commission redactions.

    Unsurprising if so.
    Release of the Commission redactions would compromise (almost certainly prevent) any action being taken on any further allegations against Pell.

  88. Price of oil.

    See what happens when you hit peak oil!

  89. Hay Stockard

    Thanks Cohenite,
    Nothing new apart from some of the wankers having an epiphany. That is the amazing thing about it. I thought they would be too dumb for that.

  90. Bruce of Newcastle

    Price of oil.
    See what happens when you hit peak oil!

    See what happens, more like, when most of the world suddenly stops driving and flying because Government™ has told them it is haram.

  91. “I never wore a uniform but am trying to prove I’m not a coward.”

    Does that apply to the 740551 young Australians who registered for national service between 1965 and 1972 who weren’t called up?

  92. Bruce in WA

    Ah, Broward County/Lauderdale.

    Much of Miami is a stinking shithole where people live in overcrowded squalor. It’s a city where English is, quite literally, a second language.

    As for the rest of it, well, there’s a damn good reason they call it “God’s Waiting Room”.

  93. Hay Stockard

    Watching the best ever western on Fox. Remember the most effective weapon against claim jumping aliens is the Colt .36 Navy.

  94. 8th Dan

    Why is it still here. Why isn’t it dead.

    Why can’t you find the ? on your keyboard?

  95. thefrollickingmole

    An accidental moment of near self awareness over at the gruinaid.
    Fortunately they were able to ignore the glaring facts and continue on blaming white people.

    https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/apr/22/rap-music-racial-divide-france

    An increase in migrants from the country’s North African former colonies throughout the 60s and 70s paralleled a period of immense economic change intensified by the oil crisis in the 70s. As successive governments failed to temper unemployment, a prominent far-right rhetoric emerged, scapegoating migrants for the economic malaise.

    French rap continued to reflect the social chasm of life in the banlieues – suburban housing estates – where France’s migrants had become progressively ghettoised.

    Sties making pigs again??

  96. Roger

    Joe Biden the subject of an “active and ongoing” investigation into sexual assault charges by DC police.

    MSM more concerned about which black female he’ll choose as his running mate.

  97. I see Cuba has more CV19 deaths / million than Australia. At least they are dying in cheerful squallor i suppose.

    USA: deaths per million – 144
    Cuba: deaths per million – 4
    Australia: deaths per million – 3

    It must be a great comfort to all the families of the Yanks that have died (47676) that they did so because “freedom”.

  98. Tel

    Pray tell, when Mr LLC-001 hands himself in to Plod, what will he be charged with?

    I expect that when the cops do catch up with him, it will be the worst case of accidental self-harm you ever did see. This is Victoria and they have a reputation to uphold you know.

  99. Tel

    MSM more concerned about which black female he’ll choose as his running mate.

    Whoever has the best smelling hair of course!

  100. notafan

    Cuba is about six weeks behind the US in infections starting.

    We’ll see how spectacular their results are in six weeks or so.

  101. cohenite

    I expect that when the cops do catch up with him, it will be the worst case of accidental self-harm you ever did see. This is Victoria and they have a reputation to uphold you know.

    Depends if he is a sud or RoP; both of these Trump wallopers.

  102. Roger

    MSM more concerned about which black female he’ll choose as his running mate.

    Whoever has the best smelling hair of course!

    Chuckle.

  103. Joanna

    We can now probably kiss goodbye 100km/h limits on freeways here in Victoria. Suburban roads will also have speeds reduced, and more cameras and speed humps installed. We’ll probably end up with speed humps on freeways. For our own good, off course. Danny and Tubby are salivating at the prospect of flexing their flabby man-arms.

  104. johanna

    On Our Selection Chapter Fifteen:

    On Our Selection
    Chapter XV
    Our Circus
    Steele Rudd

    DAVE had been to town and came home full of circus. He sat on the ground beside the tubs while Mother and Sal were washing, and raved about the riding and the tumbling he had seen. He talked enthusiastically to Joe about it every day for three weeks. Dave rose very high in Joe’s estimation.

    Raining. All of us inside. Sal on the sofa playing the concertina; Dad squatting on the edge of a flat stone at the corner of the fireplace; Dave on another opposite; both gazing into the fire, which was almost out, and listening intently to the music; the dog, dripping wet, coiled at their feet, shivering; Mother sitting dreamily at the table, her palm pressed against her cheek, also enjoying the music.

    Sal played on until the concertina broke. Then there was a silence.

    For a while Dave played with a piece of charcoal. At last he spoke.

    “Well,” he said, looking at Dad, “what about this circus?”

    Dad chuckled.

    “But what d’ y’ think?”

    “Well” (Dad paused), “yes” (chuckled again)—“very well.”

    “A circus!” Sal put in—“a pretty circus yous’d have!”

    Dave fired up.

    “You go and ride the red heifer, strad-legs, same as y’ did yesterday,” he snarled, “an’ let all the country see y’.”

    Sal blushed.

    Then to Dad:

    “I’m certain, with Paddy Maloney in it, we could do it right enough, and make it pay, too.”

    “Very well, then,” said Dad, “very well. There’s th’ tarpaulin there, and plenty bales and old bags whenever you’re ready.”

    Dave was delighted, and he and Dad and Joe ran out to see where the tent could be pitched, and ran in again wetter than the dog.

    One day a circus-tent went up in our yard. It attracted a lot of notice. Two of the Johnsons and old Anderson and others rode in on draught-horses and inspected it. And Smith’s spring-cart horse, that used to be driven by every day, stopped in the middle of the lane and stared at it; and, when Smith stood up and belted him with the double of the reins, he bolted and upset the cart over a stump. It was n’t a very white tent. It was made of bags and green bushes, and Dad and Dave and Paddy Maloney were two days putting it up.

    We all assisted in the preparations for the circus. Dad built seats out of forked sticks and slabs, and Joe gathered jam-tins which Mother filled with fat and moleskin wicks to light up with.

    Everyone in the district knew about our circus, and longed for the opening night. It came. A large fire near the slip-rails, shining across the lane and lighting up a corner of the wheat-paddock, showed the way in.

    Now read on

  105. areff

    If you get a flat tyre on a Melbourne freeway, you’re not supposed to pull over and change it. Why would the police allow two cars and five people to assemble in such a dangerous spot? What’s wrong with the nearest off ramp?

  106. thefrollickingmole

    Poor gruinaid reviewer got a turd on a plate having to review the Moore movie.

    But he was forced to make on statement at the end…
    https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/apr/22/planet-of-the-humans-review-environment-michael-moore-jeff-gibbs#comments
    It’s not at all clear. I found myself thinking of Robert Stone’s controversial 2013 documentary Pandora’s Promise, which made a revisionist case for nuclear power: a clean energy source that (allegedly) has cleaned up its act on safety and really can provide for our wholesale energy needs without contributing to climate change, in a way that “renewables” can’t.

    All the green, liberal A-listers – Bill McKibben, Al Gore, Van Jones, Robert F Kennedy Jr – are attacked in this film as a pompous and complacent high-priest caste of the environmental movement, who are shilling for a fossil fuel industry that has sneakily taken them over.

    The poor below the line commentators are disturbed, the hive mind is fractured.
    1/3 want to carry on. 1/3 want to power everything with woo and the last 1/3 want a mass cull of humanity as long as its not themselves in the firing line.

    Gibbs doesn’t mention nuclear and – a little lamely, perhaps – has no clear lesson or moral, other than the need to take a fiercely critical look at the environmental establishment. Well, it’s always valuable to re-examine a sacred cow.

  107. Ed Case

    I expect that when the cops do catch up with him, it will be the worst case of accidental self-harm you ever did see. This is Victoria and they have a reputation to uphold you know.

    Yeah, he may have saved his life by taking those photos, hitting the toe and uploading if he’s now an embarrassment.

  108. Bruce of Newcastle

    Graeme – You can’t use up zinc, it’s an element. But more zinc is probably beneficial. I am biased though as zinc is one of my metallurgical specialties. Nice zinc!

    The loss of sense of smell and taste seems to be because the virus infects those cells.

  109. thefrollickingmole

    It must be a great comfort to all the families of the Yanks that have died (47676) that they did so because “freedom”.

    3 Cooooms before lunch, hell yank the head off it if hes not careful.

  110. Arky

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #3425061, posted on April 23, 2020 at 10:52 am
    I think it’s funny that, in the last 12 months, both Michael Moore and Bob Brown have had an epiphany about wind turbines. I wonder what has changed?

    ..
    Step 1: Demonise coal
    Step 2. Close coal fired stations.
    Step 3. Make grids reliant on renewables and fuck off big batteries.
    Step 4. Demonise renewables and fuck off big batteries…
    Step 5: ????

  111. Roger

    I think it’s funny that, in the last 12 months, both Michael Moore and Bob Brown have had an epiphany about wind turbines. I wonder what has changed?

    In Brown’s case he’s a NIMBY.

  112. Bruce in WA

    The Paywallian:

    Borders won’t open in next 3-4 months: CMO

    Chief Medical Officer Brendan Murphy has said while it is “very hard” to estimate the timeframes for relaxing COVID-19 measures, he doesn’t expect Australia to open its borders in the next three to four months.

    Dr Murphy told an inquiry into the government’s response to the crisis on Thursday the one exception could be New Zealand, but at this stage such an arrangement was “quite speculative”.

    Dr Murphy said the government was concerned about a second wave of infections, as has occurred in Singapore, and said any relaxing of physical distancing measures would require stronger public health measures to counterbalance the risk.

    While health officers are “certainly not considering large-scale gatherings” Dr Murphy said small-scale gatherings may be allowed if measures were relaxed.

    The Australian Health Protection Principal Committee has also been asked to consider “community sport and some retail shops”.

    We’re fucked.

  113. Nick

    They’re quite graphic photos,” Mr Ashton said. Asked what he thought of the man’s actions, Mr Ashton said: “Well they’re disgusting”.

    I hope he lawyers up. So he caused the truck to crash into him? As Areff says above, I’m assuming VicPol chose a freeway as the place to stop him and perform a drug search.

  114. From Bright Arrow who Rules the Truth’s link –

    In this study, we found no evidence that use of hydroxychloroquine, either with or without azithromycin, reduced the risk of mechanical ventilation in patients hospitalized with Covid-19. An association of increased overall mortality was identified in patients treated with hydroxychloroquine alone. These findings highlight the importance of awaiting the results of ongoing prospective, randomized, controlled studies before widespread adoption of these drugs.

    He does indeed – “rule the truth”, that is…..

  115. Leigh Lowe

    We’re fucked.

    Why are we fucked if Australia closes it’s borders.
    Imports/exports still happen.
    The only discernible real hit is inbound tourism.
    If there is freedom to move between states, people holidaying locally instead of overseas travel, which might cushion the blow somewhat.

  116. Bruce of Newcastle

    Graeme – That appears to be the Uni of VA “study” which has been nuked pretty much, since their own data disproves their hypothesis.

  117. Mother Lode

    The private is still angry.
    Scrolling, scrolling…

    Irritated privates are blight on public discourse and a scourge of the times.

    He has had an itch he can’t scratch for half a century.

    I wonder how he would be in Tartarus, in the company of Tantalus unable to slake his thirst from the waters that retreat as he puts his hand down to scoop some up or sate the least of his gnawing hunger from the fruit laden bough that the wind catches when he reaches up, Sisyphus endlessly rolling his stone up that hill, and Ixion on his flaming wheel.

    Perhaps he could be trapped in a waiting room with old magazines he has already read holding a form that would allow him to meet the minister overseeing conscription and every time his number is called he fronts up to the desk only to be told that the form has an error and must be completed again from the beginning – and he must take a new number. And so the errors appear with near ingenious variety eternally.

    Oh, and Trump is on the TV, riding in The Beast, being whisked away by Marine 1, stepping off Airforce 1 to huge fanfare and parades, standing next to his stunning wife, and pole axing the press.

  118. Bruce of Newcastle

    Haha, Numbers just faceplanted. 😀

  119. Nick

    It may also slow down the imported student visa industry.
    It’s strange, the Greens complain about crowded roads, traffic and shitty public transport, all the time. They must be enjoying bicycling around with the family. I wonder when the penny will drop ?

  120. NoFixedAddress

    I saw that some bright Earth Day type is threatening that if the World doesn’t do something about Climate Change NOW! then there will be more Covid19 Pandemics.

    Sounds like the Eco-Terrorists are going to be working overtime given the success they are having with CCP Virus shutting down Western economies.

  121. Slim Cognito

    I think it’s funny that, in the last 12 months, both Michael Moore and Bob Brown have had an epiphany about wind turbines. I wonder what has changed?

    There are both undergoing the onset of wisdom that hits most people around the age of 30 to 40. Just delayed onset for these two numpties.

  122. Leigh Lowe

    Yes Nick.
    I meant to mention the “higher education backdoor visa scam”.
    No great loss.

  123. stackja

    Nick – Does Australia really need overseas students? Does Australia really need so many universities?
    Does Australia really need so many academics?

  124. Gilas

    Cardimona
    #3424989, posted on April 23, 2020 at 10:11 am

    Is anyone able to read every comment on every thread?
    If so, how many hours per day does that take?

    Phew!
    I thought I was the only one who, despite the witty, funny, gracious and always polite OT posts, had a life away from staring at a 1080p-resolution screen all day.

    A few other Cats also seem to agree.

  125. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    MSM more concerned about which black fshemale he’ll choose as his running mate.

    fi xi ngly

  126. thefrollickingmole

    Perhaps he could be trapped in a waiting room with old magazines he has already read holding a form that would allow him to meet the minister overseeing conscription and every time his number is called he fronts up to the desk only to be told that the form has an error and must be completed again from the beginning – and he must take a new number. And so the errors appear with near ingenious variety eternally.

    Something like this?

  127. stackja

    Also does Australia really need so many politicians and bureaucrats?

  128. stackja

    BA an angry private supporter? I am shocked!

  129. feelthebern

    smh has named the driver.

  130. feelthebern

    The Porsche driver.

  131. Of course, the successful use of chloroquine to treat Covid-19 has never had any credibility until the bullshitter-in-chief pulled it out of his backside.

    It works with SARS-CoV-2, but has never been shown to work with Covid-19 except in the test tube.

    The few rushed studies conductedrecently<a href="https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m1432"have revealed that it has no measurable reliable effect.

    The looming public health crisis for people with rheumatic diseases who will be unable to obtain HCQ is the result of a perfect storm of fear and dissemination of overpromised data. However, there is still time to mitigate the damage. Physicians should educate themselves about the strength of available data regarding HCQ and CQ in treating COVID-19. They should avoid misuse of HCQ and CQ for the prophylaxis of COVID-19, because there are absolutely no data to support this. Public figures should refrain from promoting unproven therapies to the public, and instead provide clear messages around the uncertainties we face in testing and using experimental treatments during the current pandemic, including the risk for serious adverse events. Well-done, randomized clinical trials should be performed urgently to test potential therapies, including HCQ. In the meantime, physicians should remember that first, we must do no harm to the patients with rheumatic disease for whom high-quality evidence shows that HCQ improves health.

  132. nb

    Roger, #3425124, posted on April 23, 2020 at 11:49 am

    MSM more concerned about which black female he’ll choose as his running mate.
    Whoever has the best smelling hair of course!
    Chuckle.

    Better still, she has a youngster who likes swimming pools. Ahh, those little fishes.

  133. areff

    The only discernible real hit is inbound tourism.

    The fruit of my loins is set to get married in NYC on August 24. There goes any chance of the father of the groom being in attendance, so it’s the outbound variety too.

    As for getting to the States in mid-October for the election, that would seem to be very doubtful too.

  134. Leigh Lowe

    Richard Pusey.
    “Mortgage broker” apparently.
    Mmmyes.
    Mortgage broker.

  135. thefrollickingmole

    Wang has made a claim.
    Of course, the successful use of chloroquine to treat Covid-19 has never had any credibility until the bullshitter-in-chief pulled it out of his backside.

    Lots of testing being done.
    Some will fail, some will be inconclusive but the majority of data at the moment seems to say the combo drug therapy is effective.
    Its about 90% likely that in 6 months time the “TRUMP DRUG!!!” will be superseded by something more effective and Coomer will be busy pulling its pud “see it didnt work” rather than realizing as data changes and treatments are refined things being done now will be superseded.

    Mind you the old mong is probably applying leeches to his genitals to reset his humours.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7135139/

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32171740?dopt=Abstract

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32074550?dopt=Abstract
    Abstract
    The coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) virus is spreading rapidly, and scientists are endeavoring to discover drugs for its efficacious treatment in China. Chloroquine phosphate, an old drug for treatment of malaria, is shown to have apparent efficacy and acceptable safety against COVID-19 associated pneumonia in multicenter clinical trials conducted in China. The drug is recommended to be included in the next version of the Guidelines for the Prevention, Diagnosis, and Treatment of Pneumonia Caused by COVID-19 issued by the National Health Commission of the People’s Republic of China for treatment of COVID-19 infection in larger populations in the future.

    https://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04326725?cond=COVID&draw=2

    There is a lot of research going on, Coomer boy thinks the cure is available “off the self” or wants to wait a year or so for full testing.

    Why does he hate old people?

    https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200409/chloroquine-zinc-tested-to-block-covid-infection

  136. Infidel Tiger King

    There’s a good chance that Dick Pussy will get substantial compo.

    VicPol almost killed him. Those facts are undeniable.

  137. thefrollickingmole

    Legalise Sedition
    #3425180, posted on April 23, 2020 at 12:40 pm
    Dick Pussy?

    Fuck me.

    We back on team America references?

  138. Leigh Lowe

    Seems like Mr Pusey might have a short fuse.

  139. Leigh Lowe

    There’s a good chance that Dick Pussy will get substantial compo.

    VicPol almost killed him. Those facts are undeniable.

    He’s a mortgage broker.
    He might need compo.
    He is going to be poison after this.

  140. Infidel Tiger King

    Pretty hard to argue against the border closures.

    Should have happened in January.

    We have destroyed our domestic economy because we were too frightened to upset the ChiComs and CCP agents at our universities.

    Let’s how we don’t reopen too early under pressure from the same People.

  141. Bruce of Newcastle

    Of course, the successful use of chloroquine to treat Covid-19 has never had any credibility until the bullshitter-in-chief pulled it out of his backside.

    LOL. Faceplant with pike.

    Numbers, the pharmaceutical is hydroxychloroquine, not chloroquine. Chloroquine has reasonable effect from what I’ve read, but the hydroxylated version is better, especially in combo with antibiotics.

    The champion of this was the French guy. There are now trials in many countries including here in NSW. I think that means it works reasonably well, and seeing hydroxychloroquine is on the World Health Organization’s List of Essential Medicines, which only very safe medicines get onto, it appears to be the good stuff.

    You really need to get your TDS looked at Numbers, before your brain turns to green mush.

  142. Leigh Lowe

    C.L.

    #3425189, posted on April 23, 2020 at 12:46 pm

    MPA Top 100 Broker 2013: Richard Pusey.

    Doesn’t look like a hardened crook.

    I think his chances of making the top 100 brokers this year are probably slim to zero.

  143. C.L.

    Richard Pusey sells Cat Café freehold for $4.4 million.

    Plump regional office ripe for picking.

    A perusal of the properties’ title deeds indicate the two historic buildings were acquired last year by a company called So Hoity Toity – which sounds like a racehorse! And indeed there is a four-year-old filly called So Hoity Toity which races in the UK but has only won one race.

    This Hoity Toity is however, owned by mortgage broker Richard Pusey who made a pretty penny and more than doubled the $1.48 million he paid for the former Illusion nightclub in August 2017.

    This bloke trousers millions for a hobby.

  144. Nick

    Dick Pussay had better hope he’s not Catholic

  145. struth

    Johanna please come in and explain where you get the idea that I wish for armed revolution and show where I have ever said it?
    What is it with some women and comprehension skills?

  146. Numbers, the pharmaceutical is hydroxychloroquine, not chloroquine. Chloroquine has reasonable effect from what I’ve read, but the hydroxylated version is better, especially in combo with antibiotics.

    Post me one trial – just one – where it has been shown to be effective.

  147. Leigh Lowe

    This bloke trousers millions for a hobby.

    Be interesting to know how he has a broker’s ticket with an “extensive criminal record”.

  148. C.L.

    I’m not squaring this Richard Pusey with a “known to police” Richard Pusey who takes carnage pics of dead police for a laugh.

    ??

  149. Infidel Tiger King

    Sounds like Dick has a lot of cashola.

    He’ll be fine.

    Lucky prick too.

  150. Gilas

    Bright Arrow, Who Rules The Truth

    Sheesh, even socks can’t get no attention today!

  151. Infidel Tiger King

    Gareth Parker
    @G_Parker
    ·
    3m
    BREAKING: ZERO new cases of COVID-19 in WA.
    8 active cases in regional WA
    81 active cases statewide.
    7 recoveries overnight.
    24 cases in WA hospitals.
    5 in ICU.

    It’s over.

    Back to work please.

  152. Leigh Lowe

    I’m not squaring this Richard Pusey with a “known to police” Richard Pusey who takes carnage pics of dead police for a laugh.

    Hmmm .
    From the SMH:-

    The driver of a black Porsche involved in the horrific Eastern Freeway crash that killed four police officers has been identified by multiple police sources as mortgage broker Richard Pusey

    What are the odds?

  153. MemoryFault

    Johanna please come in and explain where you get the idea that I wish for armed revolution and show where I have ever said it?

    Don’t bother, Struth.
    I gave Johanna a detailed reply and she never even bothered reading it.

  154. Leigh Lowe

    C.L.

    #3425203, posted on April 23, 2020 at 12:53 pm

    I’m not squaring this Richard Pusey with a “known to police” Richard Pusey who takes carnage pics of dead police for a laugh.

    He’s a mortgage broker.
    Zero morals and ethics.

  155. C.L.

    Posted by Pusey himself to YouTube:

  156. Infidel Tiger King

    I’m not squaring this Richard Pusey with a “known to police” Richard Pusey who takes carnage pics of dead police for a laugh.

    In Victoria the worst thing you can do is speed or get caught drink driving.

    Murderers, rapists and violent gangs get a free pass, but putting your foot down will see you named as a hardened criminal.

    Another Ashton fit up is underway.

  157. Bruce of Newcastle

    Post me one trial – just one – where it has been shown to be effective.

    OK.

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.22.20040758v3 (10 Apr)

    You want some more?

    https://www.kvrr.com/2020/04/06/sanford-hydroxychloroquine-trials-look-promising/ (6 Apr)

    https://techstartups.com/2020/04/22/malaria-drug-hydroxychloroquine-working-covid-19-patients-va-chief-says/ (22 Apr)

    Maybe you should buy some, Numbers, before the bat bug gets to your town.

  158. Ed Case

    I’m not squaring this Richard Pusey with a “known to police” Richard Pusey who takes carnage pics of dead police for a laugh.

    ”Well known to Police” could mean Traffic History.
    He knew enough about the police and was calm enough to record the aftermath and then bolt.
    Probably a psychopath by the looks of him, but the disaster wasn’t his fault.

  159. Gilas

    I’m not squaring this Richard Pusey with a “known to police” Richard Pusey who takes carnage pics of dead police for a laugh.

    Maybe it’s been excluded already… was the Porsche stolen?

  160. Leigh Lowe

    Maybe it’s been excluded already… was the Porsche stolen?

    Nup.

  161. C.L.

    Couple of A Current Affair refs to this bloke come up on Google too.
    One of which saw him being given the shirt-front ambush treatment over his treatment of a customer.

    “… about a week you told a cancer patient you hoped she would die…”

    Sounds like a genuine psychopath.

  162. Bruce of Newcastle

    They are part of the denial of the antidote.

    Graeme – It’s not an antidote. It’s a medicine which blocks the coronavirus entering cells. A vaccine is the real antidote since it primes the immune system before the virus infects you. But we don’t have a vaccine yet. Vaccines are good things.

  163. thefrollickingmole

    Post me one trial – just one – where it has been shown to be effective.

    The longer much more linked version is held up in moderation.

    But here you go moist/turgid.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32074550?dopt=Abstract
    Abstract
    The coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) virus is spreading rapidly, and scientists are endeavoring to discover drugs for its efficacious treatment in China. Chloroquine phosphate, an old drug for treatment of malaria, is shown to have apparent efficacy and acceptable safety against COVID-19 associated pneumonia in multicenter clinical trials conducted in China. The drug is recommended to be included in the next version of the Guidelines for the Prevention, Diagnosis, and Treatment of Pneumonia Caused by COVID-19 issued by the National Health Commission of the People’s Republic of China for treatment of COVID-19 infection in larger populations in the future.

  164. C.L.

    “Australia’s Nastiest Customer” was the name of ACA’s Pusey ambush piece.

  165. Infidel Tiger King

    In Victoria the worst thing you can do is speed or get caught drink driving.

    Murderers, rap ists and violent gangs get a free pass, but putting your foot down will see you named as a hardened criminal.

    Another Ashton fit up is underway.

  166. Nick

    Sounds like a genuine psychopath.

    Sounds like a real estate agent

  167. Bruce in WA

    Why are we fucked if Australia closes it’s borders.

    Are we really happy to let a shiny-pants medic tell us when we can and can’t leave our own frigging country! On what authority does he tell us no-one in or out for months on end? I understand and appreciate some people may be happy with the restrictions; me, I am pissed off to the back molars!

  168. Leigh Lowe

    ”Well known to Police” could mean Traffic History.
    He knew enough about the police and was calm enough to record the aftermath and then bolt.
    Probably a psychopath by the looks of him, but the disaster wasn’t his fault.

    Let’s see.
    Not usually a term used for having a few speeding fines.
    One thing for certain.
    His comfortable life in Dannograd is over.

  169. Bruce of Newcastle

    Graeme, please, we don’t want you banned again. Keep on the level.

  170. Leigh Lowe

    Nick

    #3425225, posted on April 23, 2020 at 1:07 pm

    Sounds like a genuine psychopath.

    Sounds like a real estate agent

    Mortgage broker.
    Worse.

  171. Nick

    What’s the bet that the media in Victoria won’t be asking questions from a work safety/work cover perspective about whether VicPol procedures endangered the policemen.

  172. C.L.

    Mind you, growing up as Dick Pussy means his school days must have been traumatic.

  173. Ed Case

    Graeme, please, we don’t want you banned again. Keep on the level.

    If you stop trying to arc him up, maybe he won’t get banned again?

  174. Sinclair Davidson

    Smite.

    Wow. Graeme – it’s like your latest incarnation was never here.

  175. Infidel Tiger King

    Are we really happy to let a shiny-pants medic tell us when we can and can’t leave our own frigging country! On what authority does he tell us no-one in or out for months on end? I understand and appreciate some people may be happy with the restrictions; me, I am pissed off to the back molars!

    Yes we are.

    This is a national security issue.

    Foreign filth has wiped out our economy and we’ll be damned if we are going to let it happen again so you Boomers can blow your I’ll gotten gain on Thai Girls and mai tais.

  176. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Legalise Sedition at 12:40 pm

    “Dick Pussy?

    Fuck me.”

    Quite so – he’s a 41-year-old mortgage broker.

    This site, which evidently holds more conspiracy theorist meetings per week than Catallaxy, reveals Our Dick’s stage name.

  177. Nick

    What knuts

    WA Police gave billionaire mining and media mogul Kerry Stokes and his wife an exemption from mandatory hotel quarantine rules on medical grounds after they returned to Perth from the United States on their private jet two weeks ago.

    The exemption, granted by WA Police after advice from the State Health Incident Coordination Centre, meant Mr and Mrs Stokes could self-isolate in their Dalkeith home rather than be locked down in a hotel room like thousands of other West Australians returning from overseas.

  178. NoFixedAddress

    I wonder why the FDA have approved Novartis to conduct clinical trials?

    Swiss Pharm Co Wins FDA Approval To Start Hydroxychloroquine Clinical Trials In U.S.
    Swiss pharmaceutical company Novartis has won approval from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration to begin a clinical trial on the efficacy of hydroxychloroquine in treating hospitalized COVID-19 patients.

    The trial will begin immediately in more than a dozen sites across the U.S. and will include about 440 patients.

    “We recognize the importance of answering the scientific question of whether hydroxychloroquine will be beneficial for patients with COVID-19 disease,” John Tsai, head of global drug development and chief medical officer at the company, said in a statement.

    The new approval to move forward with clinical tests follows an earlier authorization from the FDA to allow emergency use of the drug, more widely used as a treatment for malaria.

    President Trump has repeatedly touted hydroxychloroquine as a possible “game-changer” in the battle against SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19.

    “HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE & AZITHROMYCIN, taken together, have a real chance to be one of the biggest game changers in the history of medicine,” Trump wrote on Twitter earlier this month. “The FDA has moved mountains – Thank You!”

    A recent international poll of more than 6,000 doctors found that hydroxychloroquine has been deemed the most highly rated treatment for the novel coronavirus.

    The survey, conducted by Sermo, a global health care polling company, asked 6,227 physicians in 30 countries to find out what is the most effective against SARS-CoV-2. The poll found that 37% of those treating patients suffering from the coronavirus that causes COVID-19 rated hydroxychloroquine as the “most effective therapy” out of a list of 15 choices.

    Azithromycin, known by the brand name Zithromax or Z-Pak, came in as the second-most effective therapy at 32%, followed by “nothing.”

    Hydroxychloroquine, which is sold under the brand name Plaquenil, was prescribed mainly in the United States for the most severe cases. “Outside the U.S., hydroxychloroquine was equally used for diagnosed patients with mild to severe symptoms whereas in the U.S. it was most commonly used for high risk diagnosed patients,” the survey found.

    Moreover, a recent French study found that the drug combo can be effective in counteracting the coronavirus COVID-19.

    “Despite its small sample size, our survey shows that hydroxychloroquine treatment is significantly associated with viral load reduction/disappearance in COVID-19 patients and its effect is reinforced by azithromycin,” the study found.

    Go and get fucked you vicious cruel arsehole Jellybean from the Jungle

    Fuck off back to Cuba with your evil Cuban mates from Vietnam and stick your Numbers you ghoul.

  179. Bruce of Newcastle

    Ed, I was educating Numbers in some science. I can’t help it if other people butt in with incorrect stuff. If you don’t like what I post tell me where I’m wrong. If I’m not wrong, well you know what you can do.

  180. Are we really happy to let a shiny-pants medic tell us when we can and can’t leave our own frigging country!

    Why can’t I emigrate and join the Kentucky or Tennessee Free Militia?

  181. Infidel Tiger King

    WA Police gave billionaire mining and media mogul Kerry Stokes and his wife an exemption from mandatory hotel quarantine rules on medical grounds after they returned to Perth from the United States on their private jet two weeks ago.

    The exemption, granted by WA Police after advice from the State Health Incident Coordination Centre, meant Mr and Mrs Stokes could self-isolate in their Dalkeith home rather than be locked down in a hotel room like thousands of other West Australians returning from overseas.

    We’re all in this together.

  182. dover_beach

    Richard Pusey

    What sort of parents do that?

  183. thefrollickingmole

    We’re all in this together.

    But some of us are more in it than others?

  184. calli

    If you stop trying to arc him up, maybe he won’t get banned again?

    How was Bruce doing that?

  185. Arky

    Dick Pusey.
    Sounds like a punchline.
    “Why did the pig cross the road”?
    “Dick Pusey”.

  186. cohenite

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #3425214, posted on April 23, 2020 at 1:00 pm
    Post me one trial – just one – where it has been shown to be effective.
    OK.

    The troll is gloating over this study which I believe you put up yesterday:

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.16.20065920v1.full.pdf

    The study is plain that Hydroxy + azithromycin (HC+AZ) did not reduce the need for ventilators but HC + AZ did markedly reduce death from any cause:

    Compared to the no HC group, the risk of death from any cause was higher in the HC group
    (adjusted hazard ratio, 2.61; 95% CI, 1.10 to 6.17; P=0.03) but not in the HC+AZ group
    (adjusted hazard ratio, 1.14; 95% CI, 0.56 to 2.32; P=0.72).

    This is a very subtle description and distinction and the fat target for the media grubs and things like the troll was this:

    In this study, we found no evidence that use of hydroxychloroquine, either with or without
    azithromycin, reduced the risk of mechanical ventilation in patients hospitalized with Covid-19.
    An association of increased overall mortality was identified in patients treated with
    hydroxychloroquine alone.

    Neither of those findings were statistically significant unlike the rate of death from any cause (whatever that means) which was statistically significant, markedly so in fact.

    One wonders whether the authors were dangling bait for the weak minded like the troll.

  187. dover_beach

    Areff, did you hear Turdball on Mitchell spruikng his book? Terrible man. Described Abbott and Credlin as haters? Claimed that Stokes told him about a meeting involving himself, Jones, and Abbott and plans to sabotage the 2018 election.

  188. Zatara

    From a week ago.

    US clinical trials of hydroxychloroquine hit ‘warp speed,’ could show in weeks whether it works on coronavirus

    Researchers are working as quickly as science will allow to determine whether hydroxychloroquine, a decades-old malaria drug touted by President Donald Trump as a potential “game changer” in curtailing the Covid-19 pandemic, is effective in fighting the coronavirus.

    Federal health regulators have fast-tracked approvals for coronavirus research, allowing scientists across the nation to skip through months of red tape on potential treatments and vaccines for the deadly virus. On March 24, researchers at NYU Langone launched one of the nation’s largest hydroxychloroquine studies and enrolled their first patient 10 days later. It’s one of more than a dozen formal studies in the U.S. looking at the treatment for CV-19, according to ClinicalTrials.gov.

    A handful of small studies on its use in coronavirus patients published in France and China has raised hope that the drug might help fight the virus.

    There are 795 known current studies regarding COVID-19.

  189. Old School Conservative

    Arky’s advice has gone viral.

    Cash savings — that is, physical cash hoarded in a safe place — is reportedly on the rise as a string of forces combine to move money outside the banking system. (The Australian)

    The article goes on to note the increased use of bank safety deposit boxes and the high volume but seldom seen $100 notes.
    They are all in the boxes.

  190. calli

    Described Abbott and Credlin as haters?

    He’d be an interesting case study in psychological projection. He said the other day that Abbott was afraid of Credlin. Everything he says about others is a reflection of himself.

    I think I know who the “hater” and the fearful one is.

  191. Old School Conservative

    There are 795 known current studies regarding COVID-19.

    Or, as The Scientists say, “pulling it out of your arse”.

  192. NoFixedAddress

    If Australia was fair dinkum about lockdowns then all supermarkets would be shut, government workers would be at home whether working or not, not a single international flight would be serviced and all ports would be closed.

    I think I’ll sue the CMO for putting my life at risk.

  193. Old School Conservative

    Many shops have stopped accepting cash because it carries coronavirus germs.

    Then I read this: In the local market, the Royal Australian Mint has also issued a statement stating: “There is no evidence that either cash or coins spread COVID-19.”

    As Wildash at Next Payments suggests: “Cash is sanitised with ultraviolet light, disinfectant sprays and stored for up to two days to ensure it is free of contamination. In contrast, EFTPOS terminals can be used by hundreds of shoppers every day.”

  194. Hay Stockard

    Just been told we are going to Bunnings when the boss of housework finishes work. I wonder if they have pitchforks?
    Had fish and chips she ordered in. Cowboys beat the Aliens. Was it based on a true story?
    Is lockdown getting to me?

  195. C.L.

    What sort of parents do that?

    Worked a treat for Sue’s old man.

  196. JC

    Zatara
    #3425251, posted on April 23, 2020 at 1:28 pm

    From a week ago.

    US clinical trials of hydroxychloroquine hit ‘warp speed,’ could show in weeks whether it works on coronavirus

    Researchers are working as quickly as science will allow to determine whether hydroxychloroquine, a decades-old malaria drug touted by President Donald Trump as a potential “game changer” in curtailing the Covid-19 pandemic, is effective in fighting the coronavirus.

    Federal health regulators have fast-tracked approvals for coronavirus research, allowing scientists across the nation to skip through months of red tape on potential treatments and vaccines for the deadly virus. On March 24, researchers at NYU Langone launched one of the nation’s largest hydroxychloroquine studies and enrolled their first patient 10 days later. It’s one of more than a dozen formal studies in the U.S. looking at the treatment for CV-19, according to ClinicalTrials.gov.

    A handful of small studies on its use in coronavirus patients published in France and China has raised hope that the drug might help fight the virus.

    There are 795 known current studies regarding COVID-19.

    The left are doing cartwheels hoping this drug fails in order to get back at Trump. All spite.

  197. Mitch M.

    DNA may not be life’s instruction book—just a jumbled list of ingredients

    This is an example of why I typically refer to DNA as “response sets”. A striking example of placing stem cells in meshes of differing geometry leads to the production of different types of cells.

  198. Joanna Smythe

    Went to Bunnings the other day. Gave up. It would be easier to escape from Alcatraz now than get into Bunnings.

  199. Bruce in WA

    Yes we are.

    Don’t presume to speak for me.

    This is a national security issue.

    Hahaha … you funny.

    Foreign filth has wiped out our economy and we’ll be damned if we are going to let it happen again so you Boomers can blow your I’ll [sic] gotten gain on Thai Girls and mai tais.

    Oh, diddums. Fall off our tricycle did we?

  200. Hay Stockard

    Joanna,
    Heaps of Bunnings around here. I’ll see what happens but I doubt it will be full.

  201. Zatara

    The left are doing cartwheels hoping this drug fails in order to get back at Trump. All spite.

    Imagine what happens when a prominent lefty is saved by it (assuming it hasn’t happened already).

    The world will never know.

  202. From your first link –

    Studies have indicated that chloroquine (CQ) shows antagonism against COVID-19 in vitro. However, evidence regarding its effects in patients is limited.

    And –

    No difference in the age and sex distribution between the control group and the HCQ group. But for TTCR, the body temperature recovery time and the cough remission time were significantly shortened in the HCQ treatment group. Besides, a larger proportion of patients with improved pneumonia in the HCQ treatment group (80.6%, 25 of 31) compared with the control group (54.8%, 17 of 31). Notably, all 4 patients progressed to severe illness that occurred in the control group. However, there were 2 patients with mild adverse reactions in the HCQ treatment group.

    So it may have shortened recovery time. Four patients progressed to severe illness, and two had adverse reactions – Hardly a silver bullet.

    From your second link – a news report, not a clinical study –

    The American College of Cardiologists and the University of Michigan warned against using the drug combination before further clinical trials could be done, as there was not enough data to prove that the drug worked, and the potential side effects could lead to severe problems with the heart.

    Currently, Sanford’s trials are only limited to hospitalized patients, and they strongly recommend not to try the regiment at home.

    And from your third link (also a report – not a study) –

    Yesterday, we told you about a recommendation from NIH panel that recommended against the use of hydroxychloroquine plus azithromycin for the treatment of COVID-19, except in the context of a clinical trial (AIII). We also pointed out that the recommendation was not based on definitive randomized clinical trial, which is month away from now.

    Today, the Secretary of Veterans Affairs Robert Wilkie said the opposite is true. In an interview on MSNBC, Robert Wilkie said the anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine has been working in COVID-19 patients. His comments came after a study looking at the effects of the drug in 368 patients in Veterans Health Administration hospitals found no evidence the drug is effective against coronavirus.

    During his appearance on MSNBC, Wilkie said in answer to question about the study, “That’s just an observational study. It’s not a clinical study. It was done on a small number of veterans; sadly, those of whom were in the last stages of life, and the drug was given to them.”

    This is simply a report of a disagreement. There is absolutely nothing beyond “might”, “could” and “may”, in any of these reports.

    Wishful thinking, especially promoted by a politician trying desperately to demonstrate that he’s in control, is not science. Only low information idiots fall for snake oil.

    And then, of course, the “first do no harm” admonition is conveniently ignored whilst Lupus patients (and others who need the drug) can’t get it.

  203. Entropy

    Johnny Cash is a genderist.

  204. max

    Ashton fingered Pusey for domestic violence.

    Be interesting if there is any family court history though not likely for Pusey, perhaps for truckie.

  205. Bruce in WA

    Paywallian:

    No rise in domestic violence figures during pandemic

    Domestic violence has not increased during the COVID-19 pandemic but it’s possible that victims cannot safely report while in isolation with perpetrators, NSW Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research says.

    A report released by the agency has revealed that in March this year, 2678 incidents of domestic violence were recorded by NSW Police.

    This is equivalent to the same reporting period in March last year, when police recorded 2632 incidents.

    But, but this can’t be true. They closed gunshops and restricted booze sales because we were all definitely going to go home and plant one on the missus. Surely they wouldn’t just make shit up?

  206. Leigh Lowe

    Nick
    #3425230, posted on April 23, 2020 at 1:11 pm
    What’s the bet that the media in Victoria won’t be asking questions from a work safety/work cover perspective about whether VicPol procedures endangered the policemen.

    The standard response.
    Drugged up dickhead barrels down the freeway at 150 clicks.
    The answer?
    Cut speed limit to 80 kmh.
    Cut limit for passing flashing red and blues to 30 kmh from the current 40 kmh.

  207. Nick

    Ashton fingered Pusey for domestic violence.

    VicPol are happy to advertise these priors before he’s been charged with anything, yet chocolate drop eye’s history in the drug trade is silenced. Go figure eh ?

  208. Arky

    Zatara
    #3425266, posted on April 23, 2020 at 1:41 pm
    The left are doing cartwheels hoping this drug fails in order to get back at Trump. All spite.

    Imagine what happens when a prominent lefty is saved by it (assuming it hasn’t happened already).

    The world will never know.

    ..
    Yes, we did:

    Michigan Democratic State Representative Karen Whitsett told Fox News host Laura Ingraham on Monday that the controversial drug hydroxychloroquine stopped her coronavirus symptoms “within a couple hours.”

    Whitsett represents parts of Detroit, a city that has been labeled a coronavirus “hot spot.” Recent data indicated 5,032 positive cases in Detroit with 196 deaths attributable to the virus reported in the city.

    Used primarily to treat malaria, hydroxychloroquine has been praised by President Donald Trump as a potential therapeutic for the virus. Sunday, Trump suggested taking the drug to prevent contracting the virus.

    “I’m not looking at it one way or the other,” Trump said, “but we want to get out of this. If it does work, it would be a shame if we didn’t do it early. But we have some very good signs.”

    While the FDA has not yet approved hydroxychloroquine for treatment of the coronavirus, Whitsett claims it worked for her.

    “I really want to say that you have to give this an opportunity,” Whitsett said Monday. “For me, it saved my life.”

  209. Leigh Lowe

    max
    #3425269, posted on April 23, 2020 at 1:43 pm
    Ashton fingered Pusey for domestic violence.

    Be interesting if there is any family court history though not likely for Pusey, perhaps for truckie.

    Why do you say that Pusey would be not likely to have a FC history?
    How would we know either way?
    Where did Ashton reveal any specific history?
    Do you have a link?

  210. thefrollickingmole

    From the link above… with the abstract added in plain English.

    multicenter clinical trials
    multicenter clinical trials
    multicenter clinical trials
    multicenter clinical trials

    I think it is now beyond all doubt moist/turgid was placed in an education sector where he could do the least damage to his students.
    All those long “inspections” they sent him on later, just to remove him from the offices.
    The reading comprehension is just pitiful.
    Its use of data woeful
    The ability to formulate a thought outside its narrow frame of reference non existent.

    And lets not even mention its masturbatory perversion whenever theres a dead american around.

  211. cohenite

    Only low information idiots fall for snake oil.

    Says the commie troll. Imagine life with scum like it in charge. Oh wait.

  212. thefrollickingmole

    Ashton fingered Pusey

    f’narr, fnarr, f’narr.
    Phrasing!

  213. max

    Ashton is like Neil Mitchell. His words were inappropriate: whipping up emotions rather than reassuring and creating confidence.

    This is not what you want from a leader at a time like last night.

  214. JC

    ‘Speeding’ Porsche driver arrested

    One of four police officers killed had been on the job for only months as police interview a man who allegedly fled the scene.

    His behavior was appalling. I can actually understand him taking pics as they could have been required for evidence, but facebooking them later was terrible. He was picked up for speeding and now has had his entire seedy life plastered all over the news. Speeding and later, walking off from an accident, which he didn’t cause are not a reasons to be arrested.

    We know all about the Porsche driver. We know he has a criminal history. We know his name and we know the line of work he was involved in. What do we know about the idiot who ploughed into the cops? Why not?

  215. JC

    So the world is ending just yet.

    Bill and Melinda Gates Buy Oceanfront Home Near San Diego for $43 Million
    The pair purchased the six-bedroom property in Del Mar, Calif., from Madeleine Pickens, the former wife of Texas billionaire T. Boone Pickens

  216. Zatara

    Yes, we did:

    I stand corrected. Ta Arky.

  217. Arky

    What do we know about the idiot who ploughed into the cops?

    ..
    His name is Ivor Biggun.
    It’s too early to assign guilt in the deaths of officers Melon, Balls, Cummin and O’Cock.

  218. Ed Case

    but facebooking them later was terrible

    Sure, but the evidence is more use to him if a few thousand people have copies. Trusting Victoria Police to take good care of evidence is a mugs game.

  219. JC

    Arky

    The cops stopped the Porsche idiot for speeding. What’s he have to do with the crash?

  220. JC

    Sure, but the evidence is more use to him if a few thousand people have copies. Trusting Victoria Police to take good care of evidence is a mugs game.

    Sure. Excellent point.

  221. feelthebern

    #3425269, posted on April 23, 2020 at 1:43 pm
    Ashton fingered Pusey for domestic violence.

    Chief of police muddies the jury pool.

  222. Arky

    What’s he have to do with the crash?

    ..
    We’ll find out more after they have statements from the eyewitness, Ms. Phillipa Crack.

  223. JC

    We’ll find out more after they have statements from the eyewitness, Ms. Phillipa Crack.

    One? J?

  224. JC

    feelthebern
    #3425295, posted on April 23, 2020 at 2:02 pm

    #3425269, posted on April 23, 2020 at 1:43 pm
    Ashton fingered Pusey for domestic violence.

    Chief of police muddies the jury pool.

    Tubby is a real piece of shit.

  225. Arky

    One? J?

    ..
    Yeah, Pat Down and Ben Dover have refused to co-operate.

  226. Infidel Tiger King

    What would the story be today if one cop had survived and four suspects crushed to death?

  227. Zatara

    The cops stopped the Porsche idiot for speeding. What’s he have to do with the crash?

    Would the cops have been standing in the road if he hadn’t been speeding and under the influence?

  228. Leigh Lowe

    Sure, but the evidence is more use to him if a few thousand people have copies. Trusting Victoria Police to take good care of evidence is a mugs game.

    Email them to your lawyer and call them privileged.
    Enough with the excuses.
    He’s a low xunt.

  229. Ed Case

    He appeared to be lying in the interview last night.
    Then again, that’s the first time i’ve seen him speak.

  230. Fisky

    Haha! MASSIVE fall in immigratiom already baked in. There is no going back now. We have won!


    Permanent visa numbers collapse

    The number of permanent visas offered by the Department of Home Affairs in April have collapsed by 97% versus the same time last month:

  231. Infidel Tiger King

    An immigration lawyer of my acquaintance has gone out of business.

    It’s a wonderful thing.

    We must keep the borders closed for a decade or longer.

  232. Fisky

    Good luck shilling for immigration with unemployment at 15-20% and staying there!

    Our economic model of population ponzi growth is officially dead, and good riddance to that.

  233. Ed Case

    Email them to your lawyer and call them privileged.

    Lawyer X?
    Take no chances. He’s not pleasant, but he’s not stupid either.
    Better to have it all out in the open than to have the cops come out with their self serving bullshit at the inquest.

  234. Fisky

    Zero immigration should be written into our Constitution.

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