Thursday Forum: April 23, 2020

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2,238 Responses to Thursday Forum: April 23, 2020

  1. JC

    Fisky

    That’s kind of circular reasoning. Why would anyone think about applying for a visa when travel and immigration is banned until further notice?

  2. feelthebern

    Australia was built on foreign investment & migration.

  3. Struth

    Leigh down er LOWE.

    Your pompous attitude to people just trying to initiate a little bit of push back which entails all of sharing a post or standing silently in front of an Anzac memorial, and comparing it to people egging you on toward some sort of fist fight or violence is, well, pathetic.
    But, without proof, just by your own psychic vision to claim those people wouldn’t be at a fight they didn’t ask you to be at anyway, takes some impressive mental gymnastics.
    FMD

  4. Infidel Tiger King

    Australia was built on foreign investment & migration.

    The law of diminishing returns has kicked in big time. Turns out all cultures aren’t fungible.

    Time to restructure.

  5. Fisky

    Australia was built on foreign investment & migration

    Every piece of useful land has been fully utilised and inhabited, and we are now at the stage of piling poor quality dogbox apartments on top of each other. We don’t need any immigration at all, which is fortunate because we now have none. Zero!

  6. Nick

    Australia was built on foreign investment & migration.

    From Nepal?

  7. feelthebern

    Well that’s a different situation.
    Who is allowed to invest.
    Who is allowed to migrate.
    But you need foreign investment & migration.

  8. Leigh Lowe

    Sure, but the evidence is more use to him if a few thousand people have copies. Trusting Victoria Police to take good care of evidence is a mugs game.

    Sure. Excellent point.

    No it isn’t.
    What “evidence” did the idiot think he was collecting?
    And, in any case, just copy it to a USB stick and hide it, and send an electronic copy to your lawyer.
    Publishing photos of cops splattered all over the road is just a xunt’s act.
    I reckon this bloke has been a coke-head for years but now might have moved to ice.

  9. JC

    I believe that at 30% foreign born. we’re getting to the point where it begins having an adverse impact on the social side of things.

    But this:

    Every piece of useful land has been fully utilised and inhabited

    That’s the Greens manifesto.

  10. Leigh Lowe

    Struth
    #3425324, posted on April 23, 2020 at 2:19 pm
    Leigh down er LOWE.

    Your pompous attitude to people just trying to initiate a little bit of push back which entails all of sharing a post or standing silently in front of an Anzac memorial, and comparing it to people egging you on toward some sort of fist fight or violence is, well, pathetic.

    Just an observation as to how your daily rants might appear.
    Take it or leave it.
    As someone who isn’t quite as wedded to the cause as you, I am suggesting the tone of your posts is just as likely to turn people off as attract them to the cause.

  11. JC

    Publishing photos of cops splattered all over the road is just a xunt’s act.
    I reckon this bloke has been a coke-head for years but now might have moved to ice.

    He is a canute, but why has he been arrested and why have his personal information littered the press? This is Tubby’s modis all over again like when he smeared Pell by leaking shit to the media.

    Again, he didn’t roll over the cops… and to be perfectly frank, the cops may have been at fault for stopping him at a dangerous section of the road. There’s no stopping on a freeway unless the car has broken down and the cops stopped him.

  12. Arky

    Is it the eradication of whales, giraffes and all shelled mammals?

  13. Nick

    We have a cause?

    Of cause!

  14. Nick

    He is a canute, but why has he been arrested and why have his personal information littered the press? This is Tubby’s modis all over again like when he smeared Pell by leaking shit to the media.

    Again, he didn’t roll over the cops… and to be perfectly frank, the cops may have been at fault for stopping him at a dangerous section of the road. There’s no stopping on a freeway unless the car has broken down and the cops stopped him.

    Agree

  15. bespoke

    Every piece of useful land has been fully utilised and inhabited.

    Chang that to “most productive land” JC?

  16. Not even true bespoke.

    The greens have locked it up!

  17. Struth

    Just an observation as to how your daily rants might appear.
    Take it or leave it.
    As someone who isn’t quite as wedded to the cause as you, I am suggesting the tone of your posts is just as likely to turn people off as attract them to the cause.

    No skin off my back, but if we are making observations, I’ve met thousands of “sneering from the side lines” do nothings, that love to whinge about their lot, and then sneer at those having a crack.
    Precisely the attitude that got us into this mess.
    I’ll give you this, in this shit hole of a country you are not alone, and you may deserve all you are going to get.
    I don’t.

  18. Entropy

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #3425337, posted on April 23, 2020 at 2:29 pm
    hookers!
    Coronavirus heat maps reveal which Queensland regions have more cases, with young women the largest demographic

    Missing from that article was any comment at all on how sick they were from COVID-19.

  19. Zatara

    Clinical study report by Dr. Raoult who treated 1061 COVIF-19 patients with hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin. Dated 20 April 2020.

    Early treatment of 1061 COVID-19 patients with hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin, Marseille, France

    CONCLUSION: Early HCQ+AZ combination is a safe and efficient treatment for COVID-19.

  20. min

    Calli projection and paranoia with delusional thinking are characteristic of a narcissistic personality that BrendanNelson diagnosed when he was leader and had been working closely with him . Although NPD is used often for him, Brendan only one qualified to make diagnosis..
    Credlin and Kenny describe behaviour that could be classified as narcissistic rages . However I believe he has suffered by the abandonment by his mother , a massive rejection so no wonder when he receives more massive rejections , loss of leadership and as PM he sinks to more than loss and grief but the loss of self.
    NPD do not have self acceptance only self esteem boosted by success and achievement .

  21. Leigh Lowe

    C.L.
    #3425218, posted on April 23, 2020 at 1:02 pm
    Couple of A Current Affair refs to this bloke come up on Google too.
    One of which saw him being given the shirt-front ambush treatment over his treatment of a customer.

    “… about a week you told a cancer patient you hoped she would die…”

    Sounds like a genuine psychopath.

    I tend to agree.
    His response to the accusation of screaming at a cancer patient was just a smarmy “oh, right. That’s what this is?”
    Not a hint of embarrassment or remorse.

    Dubbed ‘Richie Rich’ and ‘Australia’s nastiest customer’, Pusey screamed at one of their wives that he hoped she died, just after she got out of hospital where she had breast cancer treatment.

    ‘Get some more f**king cancer you stupid f**king b***h,’ he was filmed yelling through their door.

    When confronted by ACA he was asked on camera: ‘Who screams at a cancer patient?’ He responded: ‘Oh right, is that what that is, is it?’

  22. Zero immigration should be written into our Constitution.

    The original inhabitants of this wide brown land would probably agree with you.

  23. JC

    Bespoke

    No, we can’t say that. We can’t say the most “productive land” has been taken because you haven’t taken technology into account. Just yesterday, there was a report of a revolutionary wheat strand that will grow in the worst dry conditions experienced.

    But in any event, immigrants are not heading our to farms. Nearly all are living in the cities.

  24. Ed Case

    What “evidence” did the idiot think he was collecting?
    And, in any case, just copy it to a USB stick and hide it, and send an electronic copy to your lawyer.

    I agree with everything you said.
    The evidence was his being at the accident scene at the time of the accident.
    Why he would feel the need to establish his whereabouts at the time of a multiple fatality involving police, i can’t say.
    Earlier today a commenter here discovered that the plates on his Porsche were identical to the plates on a different model Porsche listed for sale.
    So, who knows, perhaps the cops were running some racket with licence plates as well as making speeding fines, DUIs etc disappear for businesspeople that could make it worth their while?
    Basically, Police Forces, as distinct from individual Police, have a poor reputation.

  25. Leigh Lowe

    No skin off my back, but if we are making observations, I’ve met thousands of “sneering from the side lines” do nothings, that love to whinge about their lot, and then sneer at those having a crack.

    For what it is worth, this thing is a balancing act, and I think the restrictions aren’t targeted properly.
    But be honest.
    Is your concern about “the country”?
    Or is it about restrictions on you driving your mini-bus tours or doing your piano accordion gigs, or whatever it is that you have been prevented from doing?

  26. Struth

    The original inhabitants of this wide brown land would probably agree with you.

    Even if we left them the way we found them?

  27. Clinical study report by Dr. Raoult who treated 1061 COVIF-19 patients with hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin. Dated 20 April 2020.

    Perhaps you should have read the disclaimer in the intro –

    METHODS: We conducted an uncontrolled non-comparative observational study in a cohort
    of 1061 unpublished infected patients treated with HCQ+AZ combination for at least three
    days. Endpoints were death, worsening and viral shedding persistence.

  28. Fisky

    VERY interesting report from think tank Per Capita!

    https://percapita.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Some-facts-about-debt_FINAL.pdf

    Despite relatively low taxes and rising profits, Australian business has not been contributing to productivity in proportion to those profits for many years. Labour productivity has been declining since the 1970s, to an annual growth rate of just 1.1% per year over the last five years, far below the historical average (see Figure 5). This worrying trend has largely occurred due to a lack of capital deepening – corporate investment that typically embodies new technologies, which complement people’s skill development and innovation. Over the past few decades the Australian economy has seen a significant drop off in private sector productivity investment. In the 2017-2018 financial year, agregate indiactors showed the phenomenon of capital shallowing, with firms investing less than in the previous year in improving their assets.

    This may partly be a result of long-term slackness in the Australian labour market: even before the current crisis, unemployment in Australia was stuck at 5.1%, considerably higher than in comparable advanced economies, and the underutilization rate was 13.7%, meaning that almost one in five Australians was seeking more hours of work. There is growing evidence that a tight labour market promotes innovation and productivity enhancements as employers are motivated to reduce labour costs, so a full employment economy is a means to encourage business investment in productivity gains.

    So immigration-caused labour slack has smashed productivity and caused our living standards to stagnate. Luckily, immigration is now approximately zero, which will be good for long-term productivity

  29. max

    Leigh, I’m sure it was on 3AW that Ashton talked about the Porsche driver as ‘low’ and known to police for DV but I don’t have a link so take it as hearsay. We’ll know more tomorrow.

  30. bespoke

    Legalise Sedition
    #3425344, posted on April 23, 2020 at 2:33 pm
    Not even true bespoke.

    The greens have locked it up!

    Cops being grown on the side of a hill and tree changer imposing noise restrictions as not very productive.

  31. shatterzzz

    We know all about the Porsche driver. We know he has a criminal history. We know his name and we know the line of work he was involved in. What do we know about the idiot who ploughed into the cops? Why not?
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8247603/PICTURED-Melbourne-chicken-truck-driver-crashed-Porsche-911.html

  32. Struth

    Is your concern about “the country”?
    Or is it about restrictions on you driving your mini-bus tours or doing your piano accordion gigs, or whatever it is that you have been prevented from doing?

    Meeeeooow!!

    What was my concern for leading the convoy?
    Still had work (I had to get time off for), and still could play gigs.

    I did a lot more back then.
    To be honest I am not doing much this time, as I realise people such as your good self are in the majority here, and love government ruling you with an iron fist, while you kid yourself and call it a balancing act.

    I also know that not everybody who realises you must fight to keep your freedoms is on catallaxy either.

    Thank Christ for that.

  33. H B Bear

    Kerry Stokes better get on and enjoy his inside run from WA police.

    Channel 7 is set to join Virgin on the corporate scrap heap.

  34. Zatara

    Perhaps you should have read the disclaimer in the intro –

    Your point being?

    A successful clinical test was done on a treatment for a newly emergent disease.

    Now go find one that says it is wrong.

  35. Leigh Lowe

    So, who knows, perhaps the cops were running some racket with licence plates as well as making speeding fines, DUIs etc disappear for businesspeople that could make it worth their while?
    Basically, Police Forces, as distinct from individual Police, have a poor reputation.

    That is a more useful line of enquiry.
    Why did the previous dash-cam footage sit unactioned for a month?
    As was said upthread, finding a 911 turbo should take no time at all.
    How many coppers had loans arranged through him?
    How many had been taken for a racetrack spin in the Porsche?
    Did APRA know of his priors?
    If not, why not?
    He would struggle to keep a broker’s licence with priors for theft and criminal damage.

    Did someone lose his file, or drop his name off a list somewhere?

  36. Leigh Lowe

    To be honest I am not doing much this time, as I realise people such as your good self are in the majority here, and love government ruling you with an iron fist, while you kid yourself and call it a balancing act.

    Mmmyes.
    Everyone who doesn’t adhere to the Gospel according to Struth is a totalitarian.
    Total lock-down is ridiculous.
    But open slather is just as stupid and irresponsible.

  37. bespoke

    JC

    You have an almost religious faith in new tech saving the world. I’m still waiting for my flying car.

  38. rickw

    So, who knows, perhaps the cops were running some racket with licence plates as well as making speeding fines, DUIs etc disappear for businesspeople that could make it worth their while?
    Basically, Police Forces, as distinct from individual Police, have a poor reputation.

    I knew someone in glass who made a lot of money giving Vicpol a little thanks for calling them for emergency repairs on shop fronts. In the end Vicpol were chucking the bricks through windows themselves if no one else obliged.

  39. Nick

    Why did the previous dash-cam footage sit unactioned for a month?

    He was Sudanese, a lesbian and wasn’t a priest?

  40. Leigh Lowe

    We know all about the Porsche driver. We know he has a criminal history. We know his name and we know the line of work he was involved in. What do we know about the idiot who ploughed into the cops? Why not?

    Chicken man is Mohinder Singh Bajwa.

  41. Struth

    Mmmyes.
    Everyone who doesn’t adhere to the Gospel according to Struth is a totalitarian.

    Well, it’s called the constitution.
    It really is yours as well.

  42. Leigh Lowe

    Leigh, I’m sure it was on 3AW that Ashton talked about the Porsche driver as ‘low’ and known to police for DV but I don’t have a link so take it as hearsay.

    I have seen reference to criminal damage and theft, but it was confused as to whether these were convictions or pending charges.
    I suspect a bit of both.
    But no reference to DV.
    It does seem like the fuse is very short.

  43. bespoke

    To be honest I am not doing much this time, as I realise people such as your good self are in the majority here, and love government ruling you with an iron fist, while you kid yourself and call it a balancing act.

    And that proves LL right, Struth.

  44. cohenite

    The original inhabitants of this wide brown land would probably agree with you.

    The Megafauna. Nah, they were too busy getting wiped out by the 65th nations.

  45. JC

    bespoke
    #3425371, posted on April 23, 2020 at 2:53 pm

    JC

    You have an almost religious faith in new tech saving the world. I’m still waiting for my flying car.

    Well sure. 25,000 of human history proves my point. From the time humans begin to move away from foraging/hunter gathering to farming etc. it’s been technological progress all the way. Humans fucking rock with this shit.

  46. Ed Case

    Something I heard, off someone whose name I immediately forgot, going back 40 years ago:
    Cops on the Gold Coast greenlighted sensible businessmen, for $1500/annum, against DUIs.
    Not saying that’s true, but since most business gets done with alcohol, something like that has to happen or nobody would ever get anything done and restaurants and pubs would go broke.

  47. Leigh Lowe

    Well, it’s called the constitution.
    It really is yours as well.

    I saw your reference to the Constitution, and don’t see how that comes into play with quarantine.
    You have selectively pulled up the bit about cross border trade and ignored everything else.

  48. NoFixedAddress

    Arky
    #3425340, posted on April 23, 2020 at 2:31 pm

    Is it the eradication of whales, giraffes and all shelled mammals?

    Nah… just the useless koalas and wombats.

  49. JC

    For the next time some idiotic leftwing clown brings up money being the big decider in elections.

    Mike Bloomberg, the $1 Billion Man
    He spent a fortune, but all he got was this lousy campaign T-shirt.

  50. Struth

    Total lock-down is ridiculous.
    But open slather is just as stupid and irresponsible.

    No total lockdown you are ok with.
    Illegal border closing you are ok with.

    Ridiculous

    isn’t the right word for it, and you know it.
    That’s just a cop out.

    However, as I said there are thousands like you, and this argument is therefore pointless.

  51. Struth

    You have selectively pulled up the bit about cross border trade and ignored everything else.

    I never pulled out anything to do with cross border trade, I quoted section 117, backed by 109.
    Please stop now Leigh Lowe
    I argue with notafan to prove a point.
    The emasculation of a nation.
    Ours is just a difference in degrees of apathy.

  52. JC

    I like this dude. He despises Trump, but at the same time I think he’s a gifted economist and should be Fed chair.

    Trump said he plans to end immigration. So how’d Fox News react:

  53. bespoke

    To be honest I am not doing much this time, as I realise people such as your good self are in the majority here, and love government ruling you with an iron fist, while you kid yourself and call it a balancing act.

    Yep, on the other had how of the dive to renewables been driven by the same faith?

  54. I question the validity of the state health orders.

    There are limits to peace, order and good government, but it is a very wide ambit.

  55. JC

    Eggsactly

    If Trump did end immigration, then the trend growth rate in America would fall even further. Obviously I don’t expect Trump to end immigration. Why not? Because he said he would end it, and he usually lies.

    🙂

  56. Struth

    And that proves LL right, Struth.

    How so?
    You know what, who cares?
    It takes all types, but remember, I wasn’t sneering at Leigh Lowe, for not doing anything.

    There’s millions of Aussies like that.
    He should at least keep the sneering down at those attempting a push back, as they have kept their sneering of him out of it.

    If I spoil your day, scroll.

  57. thefrollickingmole

    Zero immigration should be written into our Constitution.

    The original inhabitants of this wide brown land would probably agree with you.

    How much of a crayon connoisseur would you have to be to take that as an argument against immigration?

    Also note mong breath avoided completely the Link and extract from the Chinese medical study over the page. The one that showed he was talking shit.
    The one that was highlighted the section that showed him talking shit.
    4 times.
    Its almost like hes a pathological lying turd with no redeeming features at all.

  58. Leigh Lowe

    Pussy on bail for theft and assault.
    Probably initially thought he could do a runner and maybe deny he was even there.
    What the photos were about, fuck knows.
    That is why I think he might have graduated to ice.
    Raging paranoia and zero judgement.
    Coke doesn’t tend to lead to that.
    Things go better with Coke.

  59. Struth

    Yep, on the other had how of the dive to renewables been driven by the same faith?

    I’ll give you another go, as I should.

  60. thefrollickingmole

    Wang…

    multicenter clinical trials
    multicenter clinical trials
    multicenter clinical trials
    multicenter clinical trials

  61. Leigh Lowe

    If I spoil your day, scroll.

    I was genuinely trying to give a bit of feedback.
    It can come across a bit like Grandpa Simpson shaking his fist at the clouds, which tends to alienate people.

  62. Arky

    Anybody brined olives before?

  63. Arky

    brined?
    brinned?
    brinered?

  64. apostrophe Olive’s

    and no. I avoid her.

  65. bespoke

    I’ll give you another go, as I should.

    ?

  66. Bruce in WA

    But, hey … let’s all download the CV-19 app. We’ve been told it’s safe and protected; what could possibly go wrong? And this is just a state instrumentality.

    Office of the Auditor General employee downloaded names and home addresses of 8800 WA Police officers

    The West Australian
    Thursday, 23 April 2020 12:26PM

    A lack of security controls allowed an employee of the Office of the Auditor General to download and store the names and home addresses of 8800 WA Police officers and contractors on his personal computer.

    The same man, as well as a second OAG employee, also “routinely accessed confidential information” about their colleagues, including their salaries, business credit card statements and performance review reports.

    A Corruption and Crime Report tabled to Parliament today described the lax data control practices in place at the OAG – one of WA’s major integrity agencies – as “startling”.

  67. Leigh Lowe

    I never pulled out anything to do with cross border trade, I quoted section 117, backed by 109.

    Can you point to where the Commonwealth has discriminated against residents of a particular state in this matter (s117)?
    Sure, there may be disparate regulations state-by-state, but that is true in many different aspects of law.
    And as for s109, where is there a conflict in C/W law vis-s-vis sate law in this matter, where having the C/W law prevail would apply to your particular circumstances?

  68. bespoke

    If I spoil your day, scroll.

    No and No

  69. Bruce in WA

    Anybody brined olives before?

    Have about 8 kilos in jars at the moment.

    Need a hand??

  70. Bruce in WA

    BTW, if anyone in Perth wants some free kalamata olives, I’ve got a tree full of the things — more than I can possibly use. I’ll even lend you a ladder …

  71. Tim Neilson

    Perhaps you should have read the disclaimer in the intro –

    Numbers, that doesn’t mean that the results are wrong.

    It just means they haven’t been validated in the rigorous way that’s used when time isn’t an issue. (FFS numbers, there hasn’t been time since the virus first appeared for a clinical trial to have been organised and done – do you really think that fighting a potential pandemic should stand still and wait?)

    Sometimes we have to act on an inductive assessment of what appears true, rather than paralysing ourselves with insistence on absolute certainty. Especially here where the risk/reward is so overwhelmingly in favour of using the stuff.

    Here, patients are presenting now and needing help. The stuff is known to be safe (as long as known side effects are managed in a known way) and there’s an ever increasing tidal wave of evidence like this survey that it’s effective.

    Do you really think doctors shouldn’t be using it? Would you refuse it to spite Trump if you got the virus?

    When you were on your taxpayer-funded all expenses paid holiday jaunt in South East Asia fifty years ago, if an Asian had appeared pointing a gun at you, would you have thought “well there isn’t yet proof to a forensic level that he’s got bad intentions towards me, so I won’t bother ducking till I know for certain what he’s doing with that gun”?

  72. Davey Boy

    MARK LATHAM’S ANTI-DISCRIMINATION AMENDMENT (COMPLAINTS HANDLING) BILL 2020 INQUIRY ACCEPTING SUBMISSIONS NOW
    Submissions close 26 April 2020

    https://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/committees/inquiries/Pages/inquiry-details.aspx?pk=2583
    Click on the ‘Submissions’ tab

    Please take the time to make a long or short submission in support of Mark’s latest bill which seeks to:
    1. Empower/Make further provisions for the President of the NSW Anti-Discrimination Board to decline certain complaints (i.e frivolous or vexatious complaints); and
    2. Remove the requirement for the President to refer declined complaints to NCAT (NSW Civil and Administrative Tribunal).
    The bill also exempts interstate residents making their public comments interstate and ensures complaints cannot be accepted against people who have exemptions in other parts of the Act. E.g. Israel Folau
    Bernard Gaynor and John Sunol are examples of ordinary people being forced to engage in modern lawfare at the taxpayer’s expense.
    This is a significant bipartisan issue about free speech and the bill updates the Act to take into account the new media environment we live in so that citizens can exercise their free speech on social media platforms without fear of ridiculous threats and costly litigation.
    For more info read Mark’s Second Reading Speech and You can make a submission via the link above.
    Please spread the word, we encourage as many supportive submissions as possible.

  73. rickw

    Australia was built on foreign investment & migration.

    Seriously? By the late 1800’s pretty much all the significant buildings and infrastructure in Melbourne and Sydney had been built. All underpinned by wool and gold. The only think that was messed up was railways thanks to the gauge clusterfuck.

    This pretty much coincided with Australia being ranked as having the second highest standard of living in the world, only second to New Zealand.

    Since then we have been getting enriched by immigration and foreign investment, what are we ranked now for standard of living? 16+ and falling?

    Even freaking Geoffrey Sachs argues that if you’re “in front” with respect to standard of living and wealth it takes some doing to drop. (The guy with $100 on 5% compound interest versus the guy with $50 on 5% compound interest.)

  74. NoFixedAddress

    For those that can read studies there is an actual interesting study released in New York

    Presenting Characteristics, Comorbidities, and Outcomes Among 5700 Patients Hospitalized With COVID-19 in the New York City Area

    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2765184

  75. Infidel Tiger King

    A lot of noise is being made about a speeding driver who seems to have complied completely with police orders until they were crushed to death in front of him.

    Not much about the truck driver.

    Strange place Victoria.

  76. Leigh Lowe

    It takes all types, but remember, I wasn’t sneering at Leigh Lowe, for not doing anything.

    How do you know what I have done?
    I have written to papers, posted on FB and rang local MPs about a bunch of Kung Flu matters.
    Some repeat everything they do in those areas (you, Cardimona etc).
    I choose not to repeat it all here verbatim for a couple of privacy reasons.
    My themes have been targeting restrictions to the old and vulnerable, opening businesses with sensible traffic and distancing management, opening schools in defiance of teacher unions, not paying bailouts to large corporates without a yuuuge pound of flesh.

  77. notafan

    Struth only likes arguing with women.

    It makes him feel manly.

  78. notafan

    Drivers home raided.

    Items seized.

    Taking something to keep his eyes open?

  79. Leigh Lowe

    A lot of noise is being made about a speeding driver who seems to have complied completely with police orders until they were crushed to death in front of him.

    Not much about the truck driver.

    Strange place Victoria.

    I am going to be interested to see what his mobile phone tells us.
    Possibly a text sent or received within ten seconds of the prang.
    A lot of Punjabi Transport on Viktorianistan roads.
    And not a lot of social distancing when they get up your arse either.

  80. Struth

    It can come across a bit like Grandpa Simpson shaking his fist at the clouds, which tends to alienate people.

    It alienates people who hate being confronted with reality.
    Now why would I give a shit about that?
    Those people are irrelevant, they weren’t going to do anything anyway, hence why I have no will to continue this discussion.
    I’m not here to stir anyone to a cause, because if the country gets to this stage and you aren’t already stirred, at what point will you become so?

  81. Infidel Tiger King

    I haven’t done shit about China Flu except bitch here and to friends.

    The Australian occasionally publishes my milder criticisms but not often.

  82. Do you really think doctors shouldn’t be using it? Would you refuse it to spite Trump if you got the virus?

    Nowhere have I said it shouldn’t be used.
    Providing that “first do no harm” is observed, (and in some cases it hasn’t been, with people who need it being denied it).
    The problem here is the drug is being touted for political, rather than therapeutic goals.
    And that is completely disgraceful because of the unintended consequences.
    It resembles giving a toddler a 9mm Browning to play with.
    Of course, in some parts of the world, that’s seen as OK.

  83. Arky

    Have about 8 kilos in jars at the moment.

    Need a hand??

    ..
    How long do you have to keep rinsing water through them to get rid of the bitter taste?

  84. bespoke

    Struth
    #3425396, posted on April 23, 2020 at 3:12 pm
    And that proves LL right, Struth.

    How so?
    You know what, who cares?

    Sure looks like that. Only interested in grand plans, dismissive of passive resistance that goes against the narrative the all Australians are sheep and belittling those at risk taking responsibility for there own health.

  85. Struth

    Can you point to where the Commonwealth has discriminated against residents of a particular state in this matter (s117)?
    Sure, there may be disparate regulations state-by-state, but that is true in many different aspects of law.
    And as for s109, where is there a conflict in C/W law vis-s-vis sate law in this matter, where having the C/W law prevail would apply to your particular circumstances?

    I think you worked it out when you were writing this didn’t you?

    There is no state law that discriminates against people based on where they live in the commonwealth, and if there is 109 invalidates it.
    It’s quite simple.

  86. Leigh Lowe

    Sure looks like that. Only interested in grand plans, dismissive of passive resistance that goes against the narrative the all Australians are sheep and belittling those at risk taking responsibility for there own health.

    Corkboard.
    Drawing pins.
    Newspaper clippings.
    Coloured string.

  87. thefrollickingmole

    The problem here is the drug is being touted for political, rather than therapeutic goals.

    multicenter clinical trials
    multicenter clinical trials
    multicenter clinical trials
    multicenter clinical trials

    You are a lying liar who knowingly lies to fill the aching void where you squibbed living up to your own convictions 50+ years ago.

    A hollow man.

  88. Struth

    Struth only likes arguing with women.

    It makes him feel manly.

    You are so predictable.
    That did make me smile.

    FMD notafan, not you too, all at once!!!!!!

    AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

  89. Arky

    Radiator still not arrived.

  90. Leigh Lowe

    There is no state law that discriminates against people based on where they live in the commonwealth, and if there is 109 invalidates it.
    It’s quite simple.

    And what parts of the current restrictions are invalidated by any section of the Constitution?
    And why?
    Some Case Law would be nice.

  91. Tim Neilson

    The problem here is the drug is being touted for political, rather than therapeutic goals.
    And that is completely disgraceful because of the unintended consequences.

    Such as? A couple of registered Democrat voters who hate Trump drinking fish tank cleaner? I’ll accept that as a downside.
    Otherwise who cares what Trump says about it – it’s up to the doctors what they do or don’t do with it. Do you really expect a doctor to say “sorry you’re going to have to roll the dice with Chicom virus, because there’s a chance that someone else may present with lupus later”? In fact, if a doctor really thinks that, they don’t have to give the stuff to the Chicom virus sufferer. It’s got nothing to do with Trump’s perfectly accurate comment that there was hope that the stuff would turn out to be effective.

  92. Struth

    Sure looks like that. Only interested in grand plans, dismissive of passive resistance that goes against the narrative the all Australians are sheep and belittling those at risk taking responsibility for there own health.

    When you get a bit excited, your sentences seem to become a bit mish mashed.
    Look mine do too, seriously, I know it’s hard to believe, but yes every now and then I drop a comma or use an incorrect adjectival clause.
    I don’t get what you are trying to say, but be careful will you bespoke, I don’t need my feelings hurt again.

    Leigh Lowe has stomped over them today, and all I can say is there seems to be no free speech allowed on this so called Libertarian blog….sniff.

  93. Boambee John

    feelthebern
    #3425295, posted on April 23, 2020 at 2:02 pm
    #3425269, posted on April 23, 2020 at 1:43 pm
    Ashton fingered Pusey for domestic violence.

    Chief of police muddies the jury pool.

    Surely not! That would never happen in a well run justice system.

    Oh! Wait!

  94. Infidel Tiger King

    Radiator still not arrived.

    I ordered a package from Brisbane on April 2nd. Still not here.

    The country’s logistics have collapsed.

  95. Nick

    Items seized.

    A crucifix, a copy of Penthouse and some home brew no doubt

  96. Has anyone ever come across this guy before? Stuff for the nerd, but perhaps also others.

  97. Struth

    And what parts of the current restrictions are invalidated by any section of the Constitution?
    And why?
    Some Case Law would be nice.

    Fuck me, keep up.
    They are discriminating against entry into a state based on where you live, not where you have been, not what disease you have, but where you live.
    That is unconstitutional.
    Full stop.
    They are now placing themselves above the rule of law and it has nothing to do with quarantine, of course.

  98. thefrollickingmole

    Got a “made in China” IR thermometer today, thats one out of the 5 we ordered, the first being about 4 weeks ago.

    Tested.

    Out by 4 degrees.
    Thanks China, you are our greatest ally in the fight against Corona!

  99. bespoke

    Struth’s been possessed by MV and all it took is a bit of ego fluffing.

  100. Infidel Tiger King

    Got a “made in China” IR thermometer today, thats one out of the 5 we ordered, the first being about 4 weeks ago.

    Tested.

    Out by 4 degrees.
    Thanks China, you are our greatest ally in the fight against Corona!

    Dude at the Chemist tested me the other day with one of those guns and it said my temp was 35.5.

    Cold blooded.

  101. bespoke

    And no I’m not excited that’s not my thing.

  102. Mater

    It resembles giving a toddler a 9mm Browning to play with.
    Of course, in some parts of the world, that’s seen as OK.

    Why not?

    1735099
    #1149902, posted on January 14, 2014 at 7:30 am

    We were trained on the Browning 9mm.
    Basically a toy.

  103. thefrollickingmole

    Infidel Tiger King

    34.1 and similar for the crappy thing here.
    Problem is I cant get temp probe tips for the ones we have on site.

    The ones that are actually accurate and not junk.

  104. The BoM might be interested in buying the dodgy PRC thermometers.

    Compatible with their current therms.

  105. Leigh Lowe

    They are discriminating against entry into a state based on where you live, not where you have been, not what disease you have, but where you live.
    That is unconstitutional.

    And which sections of the Constitution do you say do not permit this?
    You haven’t answered that question.
    I think you have been posting your daily rants here for a month assuming everyone (except the one or two who bother to reply and disagree) has been reading them assiduously and nodding in agreement every morning.
    You may have to a little better than tell me it’s Mabo, it’s the Constitution, it’s the vibe.
    Some precedent in Case Law would be handy.
    There’s more than a century of High Court cases, so there’s got to be one in there, right?

  106. Boambee John

    The original inhabitants of this wide brown land would probably agree with you.

    When will the pelican be handing over all his possessions (stolen from the original inhabitants by colonisation) over to the local indigenous people, and taking his extended family back to Ireland, where he can amuse himself and bore everyone else by ranting about the “butcher’s apron”?

  107. I have a probe based thermometer attachment that came with my multimeter.
    Good to a tenth of a degree C.

  108. thefrollickingmole

    incoherent rambler
    #3425455, posted on April 23, 2020 at 3:55 pm
    The BoM might be interested in buying the dodgy PRC thermometers.

    Compatible with their current therms.

    Nah these ones are running low not high.
    Otherwise a perfect plan.

  109. Arky

    What we are living through is a parable.
    Those of us in our late 40s/ early 50s are stuck witnessing the toxic relationship between the boomers and their 20 or 30 something kids being played out with the virus as a background.
    And there just isn’t enough of us demographically to cut through the shit tell them both to cut it out.
    And when the boomer generation is safely rotting in their cold, cold graves we will be left behind for their kids to kick around.
    They’ll tell us it was us who stole their chance of a solvent existence and/ or killed their granny.

  110. Bar Beach Swimmer

    (I just posted this on the OT, as always I’ve missed the bounce!)

    A few days ago I wrote in a post that the govt doesn’t seem to have any way out of this pandemic lockdown strategy, apart from the introduction of the tracking app. Currently, we are being told, that if the public accepts this intrusion into our private lives and activities and continues our social distancing and isolation, the country could move to a cessation of the lockdown.

    It now seems to me that we’re all watching a variation of the movie, Eye in the Sky.
    If you’ve not seen the film, it’s a depiction of the use of new technology, especially of the remote controlled variety, to mount a pre-emptive strike against an Islaaa-mick suicide-bomber terrorist cell in Nairobi that is about to kill hundreds of people but somewhere unknown.

    Almost all of the film is contained mainly inside four sites: the terrorist’s safe house, a street market adjacent to the safe house centred on a young child (girl) who is selling from a small table at the side of the road her mother’s homemade bread, a British government conference room in which the Deputy Chief of the Defence Staff (Alan Rickman) is in discussion with a number of government ministers – the Secretary for Defence, the Attorney General and the Parliamentary Under-secretary for Africa – and who is liaising with a British Army Colonel (Helen Mirren) at a British military site, who herself is overseeing a multinational team that has been originally engaged in capturing the three highest-level leaders of this terrorist group.

    The strategy and tactics change when the optical surveillance reveals the suicide bombing mission that is about to commence. Wanting to release a hell-fire missile to kill the cell before the terrorists can depart on their operation, the multi-national team realise that in the killing of the terrorists the young Kenyan girl who is adjacent to the safe-house may be also killed.

    The remainder of the film explores the concept of collateral damage and how political and military wings of democratic nation states attempt to determine the value of life at the same time as seeking to tactically respond to a clear and present danger directed toward a large number of unknown, innocent people.
    Without giving anything else away, if anyone wants to check this film out, the decision-making inside the government conference room suggests a correlation with what is happening in the decision-making process of our political masters because of the China Pestilence.

    Thus, in trying to save every single Australian life from this disease (symbolised by the little girl) , our political and public servant class can not see, or their gaze is being averted from, the many, many other Australians who financially and/or mentally may not survive if this lockdown continues much longer (the potential hundreds of victims from the suicide bombers).

    Throughout the film my frustration grew and grew because of the political paralysis evident by the ongoing discussions taking place between myriad players, including the Foreign Secretary who is at distance from the political team, as well as US Government officials, to determine whether the operation has a legal basis on which to proceed. Suffice it to say, that everyone of the government ministers seemed to understand the great danger to a great number of innocent people but not one of these ministers wants to be the person who decides the course of action because of the possibility that the operation may cause the death of the little girl.

    And because it seems to me that no one in the Government’s Covid-19 decision-making group can accept that the lockdown should end, because of the risk that the public and the media may perhaps think that the political-public expert class has over-reacted due to the very low numbers of cases – we have” flattened the curve!” ffs; Australians are now at risk from a bigger and more deadly attack – the attack on livelihoods and the resulting national and individual penury – because of the delay in their decision-making.

    Hence we now need another safeguard before those in charge can relieve themselves of the collateral damage of, perhaps, of some additional people contracting the disease, and this requirement that there be no collateral damage – no deaths or illness – is taking precedence over the clear and present danger if the lockdown is extended any longer.

  111. Arky

    For a moment i thought the radiator had arrived.
    Nah. Just groceries.

  112. bespoke

    I blame Arky

    Why?

    His interspecies relationship with armadillo.
    Traveling to Asia and returning.
    MX5

    Patient zero!!!

  113. Zatara

    The problem here is the drug is being touted for political, rather than therapeutic goals.

    What fucking political goal did the President have when he reassured Americans that there was a treatment for a fearful virus that was showing great promise?

    No, the problem here is that as usual the Left took a perfectly legitimate comment of the President, twisted it, and politicized it.

    And that is completely disgraceful because of the unintended consequences

    Unquestionably. Because in playing their little propaganda game the Left has sewn great and totally unjustified distrust in the treatment itself. They have made it into some sort of perverted party-line issue instead of the plain medical one that it is.

    Someone somewhere is going to die because they refuse to take “that Trump drug”. And their blood will be on the hands of people like you.

  114. notafan

    Just like to point out that those most at risk of covid 19 are ‘the silent generation’

    Those born before and during World War Two currently in their late seventies, eighties and nineties.

    Boomers especially at the junior end aren’t particularly at risk.

  115. Arky

    Getting called a boomer by stupid young snots.
    Getting called a millenial by old geezers.
    Both are very offensive.

  116. Mak Siccar

    I really cannot believe the precision of these model projections – 65,976 for heaven’s sake! To the nearest single person! Don’t they know about error bars and rounding? Epi models – garbage in, dogma out.

    The Institute of Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) released an update to its model on Tuesday that increases the number of projected deaths from coronavirus in the United States to 65,976, up nine percent from the April 17 update projection of 60,308.

    https://www.breitbart.com/health/2020/04/22/ihme-increases-coronavirus-death-projections-9-percent-biggest/

  117. MemoryFault

    I’m not here to stir anyone to a cause, because if the country gets to this stage and you aren’t already stirred, at what point will you become so?

    About five minutes after they discover their super is gone forever, Struth.
    Or maybe five minutes after they discover that they are no longer allowed to spend “their” money however and wherever they want, even though they earned it and paid taxes on it.
    Or maybe when they discover government has changed ubstantially; decisions are made by a bi-partisan “National Cabinet”.
    Or maybe when the annual Budget is replaced by a “Five Year Plan” produced by the National Planning Committee, drawn from the National Cabinet.
    Or maybe at the next election, when the only candidates will be Liberal, Labor, National, LNP or Greens.
    Or maybe when they discover they are tracked 24/7 by their phone, regardless of whether they download the app or not.
    Or maybe hen they discover every time they speak they are identified by their voiceprint.

    I’m not sure when it will be, Struth, but I know what the universal Catallaxian response will be:

    “Why wasn’t we told”.

  118. A correspondent writes:

    I don’t know how they figure culpability for something like this, but it appears they had the bloke pulled over, for nearly an hour, at the end of a freeway on ramp merge, around a blind curve. Possibly the truck had come down the on ramp, and could not find a safe break in traffic so stayed in the emergency lane.

    So old mate sits there for 50 minutes, either witnesses from arms length or is part of a horrific high speed accident, after which any sensible person would probably think to himself ‘Fuck this, I’m not waiting around for that to happen again’ so he leaves and for so doing King Cop implies he is the worst x**t they have on the books?

    And straight up lies about him “He stayed [at the scene] for a very short amount of time.” – that is fucking slander x**t! He was there 50 fucking minutes!

    Defamation case should be launched immediately by dick pussy. He’s getting rat-fucked.

    Yes, by Fatty Ashton.

  119. Some History

    Infidel Tiger King
    #3425442, posted on April 23, 2020 at 3:44 pm
    Radiator still not arrived.
    I ordered a package from Brisbane on April 2nd. Still not here.
    The country’s logistics have collapsed.

    Waiting on a parcel from Australia Post? This is why it is taking so long

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-22/waiting-on-a-parcel-from-australia-post-why-its-taking-so-long/12172772

  120. Struth

    And no I’m not excited that’s not my thing.

    I was trying to give you an excuse.

    No one is asking anything of you bespoke.
    You or Leigh Lowe.
    If he’s doing things fine, if he isn’t fine, maybe if he shared what he did we could reinforce him instead of flying solo against this.
    You mistake ego and bluster for trying to find like minded souls with which to work together, and if I can’t find them here, there ain’t too many other places left.
    I don’t expect anything.
    And When I make the comment that I find most Australians a disappointment, I am not alone on this blog, and I am not including catallaxy people, ………well maybe some.

  121. Arky

    I could well be patient zero.
    There are bats that lives in the trees around here, and shit on the car, and I was travelling through Singapore just before the thing blew up.
    How many people have I killed at this point?

  122. notafan

    You are correct BBS.

    If only power hungry Dumb Andrews hadn’t raced to stage three lockdown for no reason.

    And of course even though people had been taking personal responsibility for their own wellbeing before being forced, they couldn’t be trusted to continue doing so.

  123. Struth

    Leigh Lowe.
    Read 117 back to me.
    There’s a good chap.
    I’ve already read it and quoted it here.

    It’s as plain as the pom on your pous.

  124. EvilElvis

    D-Day fast approaching for those expecting Jobseeker benefits after losing jobs due to government imposed actions only to find out that your luckily working partners income means you receive fuck all.

    Massive ticking time bomb, luckily petrol is cheap.

  125. 8th Dan

    Got a “made in China” IR thermometer today, thats one out of the 5 we ordered, the first being about 4 weeks ago.

    Tested.

    Out by 4 degrees.
    Thanks China

    And yet, when you said this (twice) today:

    multicenter clinical trials
    multicenter clinical trials
    multicenter clinical trials
    multicenter clinical trials

    You omitted this:

    conducted in China

  126. Bruce in WA

    I put mine, after washing them, in a small (11L) plastic bucket with lid (Bunnings) that I sterilise (Milton tablets, baby section, woolies). One full cup of cooking salt (NOT iodised) dissolved in water — enough to cover olives. Plate or something on top to keep them submerged.

    Drain and replace EVERY day for 9 – 12 days, or until they pass the taste test.

    Rinse in clean water – no salt.

    Brining solution I use is 4L water, 1.5 cups plain cooking salt, 2 cups white wine vinegar. Boil and cool. Put olives into sterilised jar with lids. I add bay leaves, peppercorns, a sprig of rosemary and a couple of crushed garlic cloves at this stage. Pour brine to just cover, then slowly add olive oil (not an expensive one) to completely cover the olives; this is vital – it’s an air seal. Lid on and tightened, then somewhere coolish and darkish for about four weeks, although we usually can’t wait that long.

  127. Howard Hill

    Check your email, MemoryFault.

  128. Snoopy

    Getting called a boomer by stupid young snots.
    Getting called a millenial by old geezers.
    Both are very offensive.

    Could be worse. Could call you a Kiwi.

  129. Struth

    And one more thing.
    I own my own words, and MV owns his, and we have agreed to disagree on some things.

    He thinks we have time, where I’m of the view that without weapons, it’s already too late, but that doesn’t mean I don’t listen to him and all who have an opinion, except the bleeding obvious, like Monty or Sniffy.

  130. Or maybe hen they discover every time they speak they are identified by their voiceprint.

    For whatever reason, I find this really obnoxious.
    Citbank offer it as a service when you call them. “Do you mind if we use voice print to identify you?”

  131. Arky

    Thanks Bruce.
    What’s the issue with iodized salt?

  132. egg_

    Sinc’s posted Notabrain’s playing card at the top of the Fred?

    It doesn’t take much of a “crisis” to flush out the Totalitarians of the blog.

    The chief tykes were quoting EU “horror” statistics early on, I note.

    Like CAGW, never get a good “crisis” go to waste.

    Let the next generation carry the burden for your hypocrisy.

  133. Australians are sheep

    Tis why the Kiwis love us so much.

  134. notafan

    Oh noes my super!

    Seeing as most here are allegedly retirees who’ve presumably cashed in their super or converted it to an income stream claiming ‘they’ are gonna take it away must be striking a lot of chords.

    And if course if ‘they’ do confiscate all the money currently invested in super funds they will have to pay billions more in pensions.

    Smart!

  135. H B Bear

    Chicken man is Mohinder Singh Bajwa.

    Probably a Toll steerer. A straw man and Toll get off as well.

  136. Snoopy

    Mak Siccar
    #3425469, posted on April 23, 2020 at 4:06 pm
    I really cannot believe the precision of these model projections – 65,976 for heaven’s sake!

    The risk is that if they round off the number to the nearest ten thousand, people will think they’re making it up.

  137. Bruce in WA

    Thanks Bruce.
    What’s the issue with iodized salt?

    You’re welcome.

    Apparently it discolours them badly … haven’t tried it myself but that’s what I read.

  138. bespoke

    I was trying to give you an excuse.

    No you weren’t at least when others have they didn’t BS about why.

    Except numbers

  139. thefrollickingmole

    Gee, I wonder why St Jacinda the Equestrian gets such good media coverage??

    New Zealand to give $50m to help ailing media groups during Covid-19 crisis
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/23/new-zealand-to-give-50m-to-help-ailing-media-groups-during-covid-19-crisis

    Every media business in New Zealand has taken up the government’s wage subsidy program, which covers a portion of salaries for a 12-week period for workers in struggling industries.

    However, the media industry became the third sector after primary health and aviation to receive specific support after a government announcement on Thursday.

    “This support reflects the essential role media play at this time in delivering access to reliable and up to date news coverage and keeping New Zealanders connected while in lockdown,” communications minister Kris Faafoi said.

    “There is evidence New Zealanders are turning to trusted news sources in record numbers at this time so it is critical the media is supported to keep doing the great job they have been doing.”

    Faafoi said he chose proposals that “get support out the door as fast as possible”.

    Roughly half of the funding ($21.1m) will go to television and radio broadcasters to cut transmission fees for the next six months.

    Contribution costs to government-funded pool “NZ on Air” have also been slashed, while government will also spend up on subscriptions to publications for the 2020/21 financial year in advance.

    Faafoi has also set up a $11.1 m fund for specific targeted assistance.

  140. notafan

    I see the eggtroll is back with the usual nonsensical cryptic abuse.

    Sure you aren’t a mate of Grigs using the ‘tyke’ perjorative?

    Your anti Catholic bigotry is showing under your skirt again.

  141. Some History

    Someone putting “inappropriate” thought bubbles on Her Maj. From WIP. 🙂

    https://imgur.com/4KnH7m4

  142. Arky

    Been soaking the little blighters for five days changing water twice a day.
    Still bitter as.

  143. Leigh Lowe

    I don’t know how they figure culpability for something like this, but it appears they had the bloke pulled over, for nearly an hour, at the end of a freeway on ramp merge, around a blind curve. Possibly the truck had come down the on ramp, and could not find a safe break in traffic so stayed in the emergency lane.

    OK.
    I think I have the accident spot roughly tagged.
    There is no entrance ramp upstream of there for some distance as far as I can tell.
    In any case, he rolls along in the emergency lane and just ploughs into a group of cars with lights flashing?

    So old mate sits there for 50 minutes, either witnesses from arms length or is part of a horrific high speed accident, after which any sensible person would probably think to himself ‘Fuck this, I’m not waiting around for that to happen again’ so he leaves and for so doing King Cop implies he is the worst x**t they have on the books?

    Well, not really.
    He could have jumped the railing and walked up the embankment to perfect safety.

    And straight up lies about him “He stayed [at the scene] for a very short amount of time.” – that is fucking slander x**t! He was there 50 fucking minutes!

    A bit of hair-splitting. Much as I am no fan of Fatty, I took that to mean “a short amount of time after the prang.

    Defamation case should be launched immediately by dick pussy. He’s getting rat-fucked.

    When the dust settles Dick Pussy won’t be charged with very much at all. Charges will probably be heard in the Magistrates so the question of jury influence really doesn’t come into it. Calling his little photo gallery stunt a “low act” is probably not really defamation.
    Again, much as I can’t stand Fatty, I see this as less a calculated attempt to influence a court and more as simply a bit of anger spilling over.
    The biggest problem for Pussy is that he will probably lose his broker’s licence on character grounds and may have difficulty farting in Viktorianistan without Plod being all over him.
    And I don’t see that being orchestrated by Fatty. Right or wrong, the rank and file will be all over him, all of their own accord.

  144. Snoopy

    Drain and replace EVERY day for 9 – 12 days, or until they pass the taste test.

    Rinse in clean water – no salt.

    No wonder Greece is so short of water.

  145. Bruce in WA:

    BTW, if anyone in Perth wants some free kalamata olives, I’ve got a tree full of the things — more than I can possibly use. I’ll even lend you a ladder …

    Do they have those little pink bits in the middle?

  146. They have made it into some sort of perverted party-line issue instead of the plain medical one that it is.

    No, it was Trump who did that.
    No other leader in the free world saw the need to do a bit of snake oil salesmanship.
    The man is as insecure as buggery.

  147. egg_

    “Think of the oldies.”

    3 hail Mary’s.

    Christianity’s fear of death clouding their judgement?

    The Chunks can now collect – on the decimated p1ssweak West, such as Victoriastan.

    I think I’ll get an Ozito while their still cheap, and a Haval H9 4WD.

  148. Bruce in WA

    Well, well … colour me surprised!

    Alleged Darwin shooter Benjamin Hoffmann to run ‘mental impairment’ defence in months’ long trial

    By Zarisha Bradley • Reporter

    The man accused of carrying out a deadly shooting rampage across Darwin last year will plead not guilty, with his defence arguing on the grounds of mental impairment, the Northern Territory Supreme Court heard today.

    Benjamin Hoffmann, 46, is facing 11 charges, including four counts of murder, in relation to the alleged shooting in Darwin city last June which left four people dead.

    Mr Hoffman was left unrepresented in February when his barrister withdrew due to financial issues with Legal Aid, but today he was represented by lawyer Jon Tippett QC.

    Prosecutors argued a 10 to 12 week trial date would need to be set given the number of witnesses, with 480 already listed by the prosecution, which the defence dubbed “overkill”.

    Prosecutor Tami Grealy said they were looking at ways to make the volume of evidence digestible to a jury and asked Chief Justice Grant to start looking for early 2021 trial dates now.

    The defence said further medical reports were also required which would likely take another three months to be served.

    Chief Justice Grant said it would be premature to search for dates given the outstanding material.

  149. Ed Case

    I don’t know how they figure culpability for something like this, but it appears they had the bloke pulled over, for nearly an hour,

    Dick Pussy is a smart guy, he wouldn’t destroy his career by posting accident pics under his own name without a very good motivation.
    He’s the only living witness to what went down during those fifty minutes at the roadside.
    Publicly identifying himself before the cops could get hold of him may have been self protective.

  150. Mark A

    Winston Smith
    #3425505, posted on April 23, 2020 at 4:23 pm

    Bruce in WA:

    BTW, if anyone in Perth wants some free kalamata olives, I’ve got a tree full of the things — more than I can possibly use. I’ll even lend you a ladder …

    Do they have those little pink bits in the middle?

    LOL Winston,

  151. Infidel Tiger King:

    A lot of noise is being made about a speeding driver who seems to have complied completely with police orders until they were crushed to death in front of him.
    Not much about the truck driver.

    I thought I must have missed something and gotten stories crossed. It seems a bit odd doesn’t it?

  152. egg_

    What’s the bet Notalooker is 20 stone with the head of a bulldog?

  153. MemoryFault

    And if course if ‘they’ do confiscate all the money currently invested in super funds they will have to pay billions more in pensions.

    No you stupid fvcking brain dead dense cretin YOU will have to billions more in pensions. You and your children and your children’s children’s children.

    Governments (“they”) don’t HAVE any money to pay anybody anything. Everything they “give” away, they must take in the form of taxes and charges, or borrow and lumber future generations with the debt. Plus interest.

  154. Bruce in WA

    Been soaking the little blighters for five days changing water twice a day.
    Still bitter as.

    Are you using saltwater, Arky? Ordinary water won’t do it. As the days pass, the water should get a darker red colour each day as you drain it off, indicating that the salt is leaching the oleuropein. The Italians like a strong saline solution (“as salty as the Mediterranean Sea”) and then when bottling a very saline solution, strong enough to actually float a raw egg (still in its shell, of course). We find that just a little too salty.

    However, when they’re ready to eat, they can be put into freshwater for 24 hours to just reduce the saltiness a little. It’s all up to your taste.

  155. thefrollickingmole

    Can the wang ignore yet another post showing how full of shit his claims are.

    Im sure it can

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32074550?dopt=Abstract
    Abstract
    The coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) virus is spreading rapidly, and scientists are endeavoring to discover drugs for its efficacious treatment in China. Chloroquine phosphate, an old drug for treatment of malaria, is shown to have apparent efficacy and acceptable safety against COVID-19 associated pneumonia in multicenter clinical trials conducted in China. The drug is recommended to be included in the next version of the Guidelines for the Prevention, Diagnosis, and Treatment of Pneumonia Caused by COVID-19 issued by the National Health Commission of the People’s Republic of China for treatment of COVID-19 infection in larger populations in the future.

    Now it will either fuck off for a couple of hours to pretend it didnt see it again, or it will try a “nah but” distraction squirrel.

    Low energy
    Crayon toothed
    Short bus passenger.
    Believe me.

  156. notafan

    Christians are not afraid of death.

    Lol.

  157. twostix

    Just like to point out that those most at risk of covid 19 are ‘the silent generation’

    The silent generation are wonderful and we love them and they love us.

    They don’t like boomers either.

    They’re on our side.

    Probably because they’ve spent twenty years imprisoned in aged care prisons by the same people.

  158. egg_

    nonsensical cryptic abuse

    The old plodder plays the victim card, quelle surprise.

    Google translation; “I’ve moved the goalposts* on my fear mongering (as usual) – do keep up!”

    *As my mate Dover is apt to do.

    Hey, I’ve separated each line of next for walls of text, narcissist style.

    As its only the low rent comments section of a personal blog.

    Being preserved in the National Archives.

    Early 21st Century Christian hypocrisy on display, almost inseparable from the CAGW religion.

  159. Leigh Lowe

    Chicken man is Mohinder Singh Bajwa.

    Probably a Toll steerer. A straw man and Toll get off as well.

    I am not sure what the raid on his house will do.
    Even if they find a shoe-box full of speed, so what?
    Yes, he could be done for possession of a prohibited substance, yada, yada, but that doesn’t necessarily tie that to the accident.
    His big problems will be his logbook and/or his blood and urine samples and/or his phone records.
    Even if they all come through clear he is likely to be done for something on the spectrum of four counts of:-
    – careless driving causing death;
    – dangerous driving causing death;
    – culpable driving
    I think people make too much of the cars stopped in the emergency lane. Anyone who has travelled in Melbourne freeways knows that you can round a sweeping bend and inexplicably find four lanes stopped dead 200 metres in front of you. If you are looking at your phone to check your next delivery you will go straight over them in the running lanes too.

  160. egg_

    “Think of the oldies” must be the same as the abortion issue to the tyke herd’s ant brains.

  161. Sentinel

    “Zatara
    #3425366, posted on April 23, 2020 at 2:49 pm
    Perhaps you should have read the disclaimer in the intro
    Your point being?
    A successful clinical test was done on a treatment for a newly emergent disease.
    Now go find one that says it is wrong.”

    Here’s a recent one:

    https://eu.jsonline.com/story/news/2020/04/21/more-deaths-no-benefit-malaria-drug-va-virus-study/2997197001/

  162. H B Bear

    Suspect the truck driver has been in the country a couple of months and completed Toll’s Introduction to Truck Driving at a Victoriastan TAFE and being signed off by VicPol. That has not worked out so well for them.

  163. Struth

    Top Ender is it true you guys are allowed to attend Dawn service?

  164. twostix

    Something about boomers trying to get rid of other generations when they percieve them as a problem. Their lives are characterized by abolishing unborn babies, old people and now imprisoning children and young and middle aged people.

    Weird.

  165. Roger

    If you are looking at your phone to check your next delivery you will go straight over them in the running lanes too.

    A common enough sight, alas, on all our roads. Passenger cars too. Makes me wonder that there aren’t more of these accidents.

  166. egg_

    Christians are not afraid of death.

    Lol.

    A terse comment on the Open Fred that doesn’t take 5 paragraphs to explain itself and involve anecdotes from the butcher, the baker and the candlestick maker?

    4/10.

  167. Bar Beach Swimmer:

    Hence we now need another safeguard before those in charge can relieve themselves of the collateral damage of, perhaps, of some additional people contracting the disease, and this requirement that there be no collateral damage – no deaths or illness – is taking precedence over the clear and present danger if the lockdown is extended any longer.

    Just off the top of my head, get someone to buy the leetle girls bread at a good price, she’ll run home to mum with the money, operative wanders off, Hellfire enters stage right.

  168. NoFixedAddress

    No, it was Trump who did that.
    No other leader in the free world saw the need to do a bit of snake oil salesmanship.
    The man is as insecure as buggery.

    how often do you talk to your cuban handlers?

  169. Ed Case

    Early speculation on Catallaxy was pretty close.
    The Porsche driver was from the Horn of The Dark Continent? Dick Pussy is close enough!
    Truckie sporting headgear? Exactimundo!

  170. Megan

    Why did the previous dash-cam footage sit unactioned for a month?

    The SP gave his bike’s dashcam footage of a tip truck moron who overtook him on double lines and blasted his horn while he was out riding his bike on a country road. I know MAMILs are not everyone’s cup of tea but this truck driving idiot’s front wheel was actually an inch from the Prince’s shoulder when he blasted the air horn. Slightest wobble from the Prince and we would have been planning a funeral the week of Mother’s Day last year. Despite clear vision of the number plate, the trucking company and the driver straddling the front wheel of the bike while screaming abuse, the cops have done absolutely nothing except ring the company “but no one answers”.
    VicPol and it’s team of screeching Road Safety Commissioners cannot be serious about reducing the road toll to zero when they are given the opportunity to go after the morons responsible and they they do absolutely zip about it. Perhaps this terrible event will wake them up but I doubt it.

  171. Struth

    The chicken man is a local driver.
    He is not taking speed to stay awake.
    One eighth of fuck all drivers interstate or otherwise take drugs to stay awake.
    He is your typical round town clown.
    A local driver.
    Does a shift and goes home.
    Would shit himself if he went further than Geelong, most likely.

  172. H B Bear

    The chicken guy is up sh1t creek I suspect.

    The was a case in WA of a woman who hit a stationary supermarket delivery truck, delivery driver lost both his legs, and got off. Buggered if I know how?

    You never know.

  173. egg_

    Suspect the truck driver has been in the country a couple of months and completed Toll’s Introduction to Truck Driving at a Victoriastan TAFE and being signed off by VicPol. That has not worked out so well for them.

    The roads are full of them – Cop tards need to learn to stay out of the breakdown lane.

  174. I did ask before, what is the legal position of the National Crockery Cabinet?
    Constitutionally?
    It seemed to just spring up like a penis banner, from nowhere.

  175. Struth

    You know you are only imprisoned in your home in your own mind, don’t you.

    Some of you need to get out of the house, seriously.

    Just get out and go for a drive or something.

  176. bespoke

    Howard Hill
    #3425484, posted on April 23, 2020 at 4:14 pm
    Check your email, MemoryFault.

    Hahahaha!!!

  177. feelthebern

    Chicken man is Mohinder Singh Bajwa.

    Probably a Toll steerer. A straw man and Toll get off as well.

    I am not sure what the raid on his house will do

    Can the cops raid your place if you’ve been in an accident?
    Doesn’t there need to be something along the lines of what the yanks call probable cause?

  178. egg_

    twostix
    #3425530, posted on April 23, 2020 at 4:37 pm

    Boomer bashing aside, be careful not to assist the Arky* team panic merchants.

    Will other States come out of this fake crisis better than Victorian retardistan?

    *Michael the Teacher, or whatever he calls himself these days.

  179. Leigh Lowe

    Dick Pussy is a smart guy, he wouldn’t destroy his career by posting accident pics under his own name without a very good motivation.
    He’s the only living witness to what went down during those fifty minutes at the roadside.
    Publicly identifying himself before the cops could get hold of him may have been self protective.

    Mate, he has made a bit of moolah, but I wouldn’t be bracketing him with Einstein.
    It sounds like he has progressively been going off the rails, getting in progressively shit-fights over piddling amounts of money and perceived slights.
    It screams to me of a coke-head who has graduated to ice and has a yuuuge dose of paranoia.
    How would taking post prang pics of the carnage provide any evidence of “what went on during those fifty minutes”.
    FFS, this wasn’t a back lane in St Kilda. It was a four lane freeway with a constant stream of traffic.
    Legally, probably not a lot is going to happen to him but, career wise, he is fucked.
    Even if APRA don’t pull his licence, the mortgage guys at the big banks will already be drawing a red line through Switch Now Home Loans.
    So, as for not blowing up his career, that was probably already gone once his court dates in Collingwood came up.

  180. Arky:

    I could well be patient zero.
    There are bats that lives in the trees around here, and shit on the car, and I was travelling through Singapore just before the thing blew up.
    How many people have I killed at this point?

    Worse than Hitler.
    (Actually, I doubt anyone has captured and tested our bat population, even though they aren’t supposed to carry this virus. But how about the Hendra and Lyssa Viruses?)

  181. feelthebern

    how often do you talk to your cuban handlers?

    Or your Viet wife?

  182. bespoke

    My current work is an hour away, nice drive.

  183. johanna

    The University of Queensland is lining up to get it’s arse handed to it via Tony Morris (who defended Peter Ridd). This time it is about persecuting a student who has been critical of China:

    A University of Queensland student who has been critical of the institution’s ties to Chinese Government organisations is set to face a private misconduct hearing in May, which could end in his expulsion.

    Student Drew Pavlou told the ABC he has been accused of a number of breaches of university policy, many stemming from his activism on campus against the Chinese Communist Party (CCP).

    The University of Queensland (UQ) was the site of ugly clashes between pro-Hong Kong and pro-Beijing students in July last year, during which Mr Pavlou was allegedly assaulted by counter-protesters.

    He told the ABC he will plead not guilty to every charge, which the university laid out in a 186-page, confidential document.

    “It mixes my activism for Hong Kong, and my criticism of the CCP, with more mundane stuff,” he said.

    and

    “UQ’s disciplinary processes seek to address alleged contraventions of university policy — they do not seek to prevent students from expressing their views or to limit their right to freedom of speech,” the spokesperson said.

    “The university rejects Mr Pavlou’s statement that the university’s process is an attempt to penalise him for airing his political beliefs.”

    In a post on its website, UQ said it had asked Mr Pavlou to stop “purporting to make statements on behalf of the university”, something it said was a contravention of UQ’s policies.

    The post did not elaborate on what those statements were about, or provide examples.

    However, Tony Morris QC, who has offered to represent Mr Pavlou on a pro bono basis, said he believed the proceedings were about freedom of speech.

    “[Mr Pavlou] feels deeply aggrieved by the situation in Hong Kong, and also by the appalling genocide of Muslim people who the Chinese Government has put into concentration camps, [and] has spoken out about that,” he said.

    “Universities don’t exist to prop-up totalitarian foreign governments.”

    Still, what does UQ care? It’s only public money they will be spending hounding this guy, just like JCU did.

  184. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    The roads are full of them – Cop tards need to learn to stay out of the breakdown lane.

    there are no “breakdown lanes “in shitholeistan

  185. Leigh Lowe

    Can the cops raid your place if you’ve been in an accident?
    Doesn’t there need to be something along the lines of what the yanks call probable cause?

    They would need a warrant, yes.
    Which they would have got pretty easily.
    Forget that they were coppers, when four people die in any incident, it would be prudent to turn over the houses of anyone directly involved.
    I am pretty sure they went through Garglearse and his family’s houses after the Bourke St fiasco.

  186. Bar Beach Swimmer

    They’ll tell us it was us who stole their chance of a solvent existence and/ or killed their granny.

    Arky, my dad is in his mid eighties. He was a little kid when the War started. My understanding of him is of someone who has always been a rational thinker and who is logical, intelligent and thoroughly capable of anything, whether mechanical or theoretical. He was a successful businessman and is entirely self-funded in retirement. He has many social connections and up until this time, he has enjoyed his retirement. And yet yesterday after I sent him Justinian the Great’s post he said to me that he’s afraid that if we re-open society, many more people could die!

    This despite me pointing out that where he lives where I live, not to mention the many other cities and towns across Australia, have had so few cases, that continuing this strategy is over-kill. His response to me was that he ‘remembers the war’ and he doesn’t want to see more people dying!

    I responded that if we continue down this path, if we continued to live like this, then we would never, ever drive a car again, or be a passenger in a car, or go anywhere because someone could die. That if this continues, we would be living, for all intents and purposes, in the dark ages. I also said that that he has always told me that when your time’s up, it’s up! But it didn’t alter his point of view.

    I never realised that the war had really affected him to the extent that those early anxieties seem to have returned. He seems to be putting all his faith in the government, despite his usual contempt for that behemoth. And I wonder, despite the totally different catalyst for our current predicament, whether because this was the default position of the populace during the War and to which he has returned, like him, because of fear, there has been a “general” turning to having government determine everything. If this is so and this mindset continues, I think we’re f**ked.

  187. Megan

    Thanks Bruce, the Sicilian Prince has just bought in another large box of olives. I have a question…do you put the ripe purple olives in with green ones or do they have to be separate. Family lore disagrees on this point.

  188. Can the wang ignore yet another post showing how full of shit his claims are.

    From your link –

    The coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) virus is spreading rapidly, and scientists are endeavoring to discover drugs for its efficacious treatment in China. Chloroquine phosphate, an old drug for treatment of malaria, is shown to have apparent efficacy and acceptable safety against COVID-19 associated pneumonia in multicenter clinical trials conducted in China. The drug is recommended to be included in the next version of the Guidelines for the Prevention, Diagnosis, and Treatment of Pneumonia Caused by COVID-19 issued by the National Health Commission of the People’s Republic of China for treatment of COVID-19 infection in larger populations in the future.

    So it’s “recommended”, “apparently” and “will be included in guidelines”.
    Wow!
    Didn’t Fatty 5D* claim “Chloroquine, or hydroxychloroquine, this is a common malaria drug. It’s also a drug used for strong arthritis … It’s been around for a long time, so we know if things don’t go as planned it’s not going to kill anybody … It’s shown very, very encouraging early results, and we’re going to be able to make that drug available almost immediately” a month ago?

    What progress has been made with it in the last month? Trump was talking “immediately”.

    The only way of making the drug available “almost immediately” was to acquire stocks previously designated to patients who needed it to maintain a reasonable quality of life. Ask anyone with Lupus trying to do without it.

    So the snake oil salesman stuffs up the lives of thousands of patients with Lupus and arthritis to big note himself.

    And I make no “claims”.
    I’m simply posting the state of play at the moment.

    *Trump was deferred from service in Vietnam 5 times and has a weight problem.

  189. Nick

    I see this as less a calculated attempt to influence a court and more as simply a bit of anger spilling over.

    While your point is fair, LL, he has form and with the law in mind, shouldn’t get away with it.

  190. Bruce in WA

    Winston

    Do they have those little pink bits in the middle?

    Sorry, mate — that whooshing sound you hear is that going straight over my head.

  191. MemoryFault

    I did ask before, what is the legal position of the National Crockery Cabinet?
    Constitutionally?

    It doesn’t exist. Constitutionally. But then neither does the Prime Minister.

    It seemed to just spring up like a penis banner, from nowhere.

    We’ve had them before. Twice before. WWI and WWII.

  192. Howard Hill

    CDC’s failed coronavirus tests were tainted with coronavirus, feds confirm

    A federal investigation found CDC researchers not following protocol.

  193. Struth

    Check it out.
    Indian truck drivers will have headphones in, swerve all over the road, keep their trucks and themselves dirty, have no clue about actual driving because Toll does it in house, which is really basic, and that Volvo he was driving is completely automatic, so you need the skill level of a knat to drive it.
    Yet the weight is still there.
    The government decided middle aged white men brought up in the industry should FOAD, those that knew what they were doing and didn’t need to look constantly at a GPS, and had started on small trucks and worked their way up and replace them with towel heads.
    The police were instrumental in harassing us out of our trucks, so spare me if I am saddened by the loss of life but not surprised one bit.
    Was the white plain wrapper SUV at the back of the stationary car?
    How was it illuminated from the back?
    Sometimes they just have lights inside pointing forward.

    Anyway, whatever doesn’t matter to Mr Singh, his life is over.

  194. Bruce in WA

    Thanks Bruce, the Sicilian Prince has just bought in another large box of olives. I have a question…do you put the ripe purple olives in with green ones or do they have to be separate. Family lore disagrees on this point.

    I’m no expert on this Megan, believe me. I’ve done it both ways now (phrasing!) — separated and unseparated. To be honest, the variation in colour looks quite good on a serving plate, but that’s just me.

  195. Farmer Gez

    The Toll steerer, desperate for a job with little experience and probably reverted to Indian driving habits in a panic. They pass on any side of the road at will all the time.
    The companies are to blame and the buck stops with the major supermarkets who have squeezed all the margins out of the suppliers and force them into hiring the cheap and keen to drive.

  196. His response to me was that he ‘remembers the war’ and he doesn’t want to see more people dying!

    Your generation belongs to a select indulged group, since WW2, who have never known existential threat.
    His generation does.
    You should pay attention to him.
    He is much wiser than you.

  197. egg_

    Oh noes my super!

    One of the blog blowhards is now an expert on investment, automotive, virology…

    We’re all ears.

  198. Leigh Lowe

    The chicken man is a local driver.
    He is not taking speed to stay awake.

    Probably not.
    But even without drugs, alcohol, log book irregularities, phone records which show he had been texting, he is fucked unless he can show major mechanical failure.
    Careless driving causing death x 4 is the minimum he can expect.

  199. Arky

    Ordinary water won’t do it.

    ..
    Righto.
    That’s the problem then.

  200. Struth

    Your generation belongs to a select indulged group, since WW2, who have never known existential threat.

    Neither do you.
    Weren’t you the existential threat to the Vietcong?

  201. Ed Case

    How would taking post prang pics of the carnage provide any evidence of “what went on during those fifty minutes”.

    By establishing that he was at the scene and publicly identifying the fact.
    Perhaps it was drug fueled paranoia, perhaps not.

  202. Leigh Lowe

    The Toll steerer, desperate for a job with little experience and probably reverted to Indian driving habits in a panic. They pass on any side of the road at will all the time.

    And the turbinators are the world’s worst tailgaters.
    I know it shits people behind me in the right lane but if I pass a turban I give myself a good 200 metres before I pull to the left.

  203. Struth

    Probably not.
    But even without drugs, alcohol, log book irregularities, phone records which show he had been texting, he is fucked unless he can show major mechanical failure.
    Careless driving causing death x 4 is the minimum he can expect.

    Exactly.
    He’s fucked.
    Sect 117?

  204. feelthebern

    From the smh:

    Deputy Chief Medical Officer Dr Nick Coatsworth said the suppression strategy was working and that it would be a “magnificent outcome” if there was complete eradication of COVID-19 in parts of the country

    I am without speech.

  205. bespoke

    What would the world be like without weasel wedger 1735099

  206. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Infidel Tiger King
    #3425442, posted on April 23, 2020 at 3:44 pm
    Radiator still not arrived.
    I ordered a package from Brisbane on April 2nd. Still not here.
    The country’s logistics have collapsed.

    I ended up just driving to the local toll depot to find out why a parcel was sitting there for 10 days… total fucking chaos.

  207. Arky

    Ahhh.
    That’s how you set Egg off.
    OK.
    Every boomer EXCEPT Egg.
    Happy now?
    Fuckwit.

  208. Struth

    And the turbinators are the world’s worst tailgaters.
    I know it shits people behind me in the right lane but if I pass a turban I give myself a good 200 metres before I pull to the left.

    Please always do this, no matter race of truck driver.

  209. egg_

    Companies have been likened to organisms – having a lifecycle, including death, viz: Kodak et al

    Is the “novel” coronavirus the plague for many Western companies?

    Humans copping the transition to a “New Economy”.

    The Chunks to cash in on Virgin Australia?

  210. NoFixedAddress

    If you wish to self report your location to Health Authorities and what your doing and who your talking to they all have email addresses.
    https://www.health.gov.au/about-us/contact-us/local-state-and-territory-health-departments
    https://www.health.gov.au/about-us/contact-us

  211. feelthebern

    There are lanes other than the right hand lane?

  212. feelthebern

    The Chunks to cash in on Virgin Australia?

    How?

  213. The Dick Pussy Clusterfuck is a good reason to abolish “anti-hoon” laws.

    That is what kept the police there for so long.

  214. thefrollickingmole

    Lets rewind the tape.

    Post me one trial – just one – where it has been shown to be effective.

    You have been shown several.
    The one I linked has the words
    Chloroquine phosphate, an old drug for treatment of malaria, is shown to have apparent efficacy and acceptable safety against COVID-19 associated pneumonia in multicenter clinical trials conducted in China.
    The strawman of rhetorical garbage you posted means nothing.
    And your random highlighting of the words is pure kiddies stuff.

    Does or does not that report indicate a clinical trial has taken place?

  215. Mitch M.

    Your generation belongs to a select indulged group, since WW2, who have never known existential threat.

    My last motorbike was a kitted out GSX 750. Riding that was a daily existential threat and I loved every kilo of it. 🏍

  216. mh

    Deputy Chief Medical Officer Dr Nick Coatsworth said the suppression strategy was working and that it would be a “magnificent outcome” if there was complete eradication of COVID-19 in parts of the country

    Morrison needs to be clear to the public who is running the show.

  217. Chris

    Bruce, I could use some of your olives!
    PM sent.
    YAY!

  218. egg_

    Every boomer EXCEPT Egg.

    All tykes are not equal.
    All boomers are not equal.
    Totalitarian, otherwise.

    The Chunks will come out on top over this “pandemic” over the soft West.
    Hail the Swedes.

    Disagree?

  219. Boambee John

    *Trump was deferred from service in Vietnam 5 times and has a weight problem.

    Perseveration relapse, becoming more frequent.

    Sad case.

  220. Boambee John

    Howard Hill
    #3425563, posted on April 23, 2020 at 4:54 pm
    CDC’s failed coronavirus tests were tainted with coronavirus, feds confirm

    A federal investigation found CDC researchers not following protocol.

    Shorter pelican: It’s all Trump’s fault, if only he had gone to Vietnam!

  221. egg_

    Morrison needs to be clear to the public who is running the show.

    The Medics.

    Quarantine/schmarantine!

  222. Its Remarkable

    Zippy @ 5.02:
    I ended up just driving to the local toll depot to find out why a parcel was sitting there for 10 days… total fucking chaos.

    Likewise package from Adelaide to country NSW. Delivered to AusPost 3 April in Adelaide, got to Sydney yesterday. Could walk there and pick it up faster. Yep, this COVID-19 must be causing all the Post trucks off the road cause infection etc. Did not know postage had to self isolate.
    FMD

  223. Arky

    Egg.
    You get offended at a comment thrown out in good humour meant to spark a bit of banter.
    Then you dredge back through time to try to find unrelated shit to throw.
    Just scroll dude.

  224. jo

    1735099
    #1149902, posted on January 14, 2014 at 7:30 am

    We were trained on the Browning 9mm.
    Basically a toy.

    Didn’t know Browning made peelers.

  225. mh

    These CMO’s are getting out of hand.

    The UK one says says distancing due to coronavirus will ‘last for a year’ to prevent second wave.

  226. feelthebern

    The UK one says says distancing due to coronavirus will ‘last for a year’ to prevent second wave

    The dreaded second wave.
    We need to see a first wave before worry about the second one.

  227. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Winston Smith
    #3425534, posted on April 23, 2020 at 4:39 pm
    Bar Beach Swimmer:
    Hence we now need another safeguard before those in charge can relieve themselves of the collateral damage of, perhaps, of some additional people contracting the disease, and this requirement that there be no collateral damage – no deaths or illness – is taking precedence over the clear and present danger if the lockdown is extended any longer.
    Just off the top of my head, get someone to buy the leetle girls bread at a good price, she’ll run home to mum with the money, operative wanders off, Hellfire enters stage right.

    Winston, thanks for filling in the climax, the others can watch it if they want to know how the film ended.

  228. egg_

    The CMOs have disobedience in their own ranks, their own “plague ship” behaviour worse than the general public.

    Do the stuffed shirt clowns think they have any cred with Joe Public?

  229. And your random highlighting of the words is pure kiddies stuff.

    Which is precisely what you have done in your post.
    Post these “multicenter clinical trials conducted in China” of which you speak……

  230. Snoopy

    A Chinaman in Africa.

    windy yuanwindy yuan
    1 review
    a month ago
    the food is ok, the beef have too much salt so need much water.
    The bad thing is that we have a business meal with my costomer, and meet some problem of payment . The lady talk with my customer about the payment issue direcly! unpolite!! make the bad influence!
    so not recommend!

    Response from the owner
    a month ago
    Sir, we are very disappointed that you’ve chosen to give us a bad review because we could not comply with your payment request. We did try to explain to you that your request was not legal several times. The gentlemen that you were with we have known for a very long time and did not know he was your customer. When you failed to understand that we could not comply we then sort assistance to explain the situation from the person we knew. We find it strange that you are complaining about the food now when we were told everyone was happy with your food at the table when asked.

    I know this restaurant and it’s owner well. You think mainland Chinese in Australia are rude fucks? You’ve seen nothing.

  231. Leigh Lowe

    Probably not.
    But even without drugs, alcohol, log book irregularities, phone records which show he had been texting, he is fucked unless he can show major mechanical failure.
    Careless driving causing death x 4 is the minimum he can expect.

    Exactly.
    He’s fucked.
    Sect 117?

    Huh?
    No.
    s319 or s329 of the Vic Crimes Act I think.

  232. Bruce of Newcastle

    There’s none so blind as those who will not see.

  233. egg_

    Arky
    #3425597, posted on April 23, 2020 at 5:12 pm

    You went after Beaugy and myself when we told you to calm down your raging weeks ago.

    I aim to drag out the insane predictions when this calms down, as commenters’ credibility is in the toilet over this.

  234. Bruce of Newcastle

    TDS makes men blind.
    I don’t need a double-blind study to reach that conclusion.
    ‘Tis plain as the nose on my face!
    And I have a big nose.

  235. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Megan,
    I did the beans – beautiful!

  236. Arky

    You went after Beaugy and myself when we told you to calm down your raging weeks ago.

    I aim to drag out the insane predictions when this calms down, as commenters’ credibility is in the toilet over this.

    ..
    Everything I predicted to happen, has happened.

  237. Arky

    Your too fucking useless and lazy to repost anything.
    I’ll do it for you.

  238. egg_

    The Chunks to cash in on Virgin Australia?

    How?

    Buy it from the Administrators.

  239. Megan

    Thanks Bruce! Off to buy the Bunning’s bucket.

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