None Flu Over The Cuckoo’s Nest

Two new cases of coronavirus in Queensland, as Anzac Day flyover banned.

There is no health risk for someone getting in a plane, of course there isn’t. But the health risk is if one person does that, then someone else will say ‘well maybe there’s no health risk if I go [for] a drive.”

– And there isn’t, Chief Health Officer (Jeannette Young).

 
MP David Crisafulli: “This is punchdrunk bureaucrats who are power-hungry and it needs to be called out.”

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49 Responses to None Flu Over The Cuckoo’s Nest

  1. rodger

    This is just so BS. We live on an esplanade running beside the Coral Sea. There has been NO attempt to stop gatherings, sticky beakers and multiple long range interlopers from disturbing our peace since the whole thing started.

  2. gorgiasl

    Punchdrunk bureaucrats who are still on full salary, due for significant pay increases and, in most respects, pretty idle.

    The fastest way to end this farce would be to reduce all bureaucrat and politician salaries by 25% until it was over and the rest of us can get back to productive work.

  3. twostix

    If I drive to Bunnings right now, or the local Westfield right now the carpark will be full and it will be a normal friday afternoon crowd.

    This really is all extraordinary, but what they’ve done is banned any of the old community traditions. There’s not at least a few of these people who see a prospective cultural year zero here.

    I mean, they’re saying it out loud all over the place now.

  4. nfw

    Okay David Crisafulli, do something about it.

  5. Some History

    Smokers have been on the receiving end of these totalitarian tossers for decades – social distancing, tick; social isolation, tick; if you smoke in public, people will die, tick. Now everyone is getting a bit of a taste. Welcome to the club.

    2014
    Footpath smoking ban call by Queensland chief health officer Jeannette Young
    THEY are not allowed to smoke in buildings or restaurants. Now the state’s health boss wants to ban smokers from lighting up outside.

    https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/footpath-smoking-ban-call-by-queensland-chief-health-officer-jeannette-young/news-story/d27fddff48b1d00d2b9294051bcbddb9?from=public_rss

  6. This is becoming ludicrous. Have any of these health experts looked in the mirror to see what an idiot looks like?

  7. Docket62

    The reasons in Victoriastan for leaving your premises are spelled out here: https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/state-emergency and I would urge everyone in #ShanghaiDans utopia to read them and understand that there is ALWAYS a reason.

    It doesn’t say where you get food from or how far you can go..
    It doesn’t say where you can exercise, what time or for how long…
    It doesn’t say WHOSE funeral you’re going to, or where that is..

    It doesn’t say much of anything. So forewarned is forearmed.

  8. Some History

    Jeannette Young

    https://imgur.com/wd2QKqv

    Every State has one of these power-crazed chief med officers. Then there is the grand poobah Fed chief officer. Then medium-to-large organizations will have a “health” officer. They are like extensions of the WHO, particularly in lifestyle social-engineering. They are a menace.

    They have been allowed to get such [destructive] political/social power by the political class of the last 40 years.

  9. This is up there with the mother and daughter getting fined for the driving lesson. Remember the VIC chief medical officer was happy with that.

    The problem is the Premiers don’t have the cajones to over rule idiotic decisions by their CMO’s.

  10. Roger

    Okay David Crisafulli, do something about it.

    A bit hard when you’re not in power and parliament isn’t sitting.

    At least he’s called them out.

  11. twostix

    2014
    Footpath smoking ban call by Queensland chief health officer Jeannette Young
    THEY are not allowed to smoke in buildings or restaurants. Now the state’s health boss wants to ban smokers from lighting up outside.

    These aren’t just regular old you and me’s suddenly thrust into a hard job.

    These people are committed ideologues. They have big ideas for how they want society to be ordered and have been working on those ideas as policies for decades.

  12. Some History

    These aren’t just regular old you and me’s suddenly thrust into a hard job.

    These people are committed ideologues. They have big ideas for how they want society to be ordered and have been working on those ideas as policies for decades.

    +100

  13. twostix

    he grand poobah Fed chief officer. Then medium-to-large organizations will have a “health” officer. They are like extensions of the WHO, particularly in lifestyle social-engineering. They are a menace.

    Australia’s medical elite are only taking these policies and modelling from their overseers at the UK and US policy juggernauts at Imperial College, Harvard (Business School), etc, etc.

    None of these broad policies and ideas are is coming from themselves and being crafted and created specially for the Australian people. They’re just passing them onto us.

    What we have is an international movement (and boy do they love their internationalism – spend five minutes on thier LinkedIn pages to see what special cosmopolitan Citizens of the World they all are) full to the the brim of naked ideology posing as policy.

  14. mem

    “This is punchdrunk bureaucrats who are power-hungry and it needs to be called out.”

    I’d put that in bold across every parliamentary building and in ever public place in Australia if I could. These guys have no idea what it means to lose your job overnight and be shut down without wages or business income and a load of debt for the products you ordered and without faith or community contact for support but with bank balances that are rapidly headed south with interest accruing. May they forever be stuck in the lift to to the top floor, spend their lives in an endless traffic jam and be deprived of coffee, chi tea, Shiraz wine, BMW’S, I phones , boutique breads, cheese and creme fraiche and may their paid for holidays at other worker’s expense become a liability to them. Rotten hogs.

  15. Beachcomber

    In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is…in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.

    ― Theodore Dalrymple

  16. Some History

    They all sing from the same “hymn” sheet

    Kerry Chant, the NSW Chief Medical Officer

    NSW smoking rate drops by seven per cent

    Chief Health Officer Dr Kerry Chant said the decline in smoking rates was across population groups, including youth and Aboriginal people.
    “We need to be vigilant to ensure that smoking rates continue to decrease, as there has been a stabilisation of rates in recent years,” Dr Chant said in a statement.

    https://www.thecourier.com.au/story/5439601/nsw-smoking-rate-drops-by-seven-per-cent/?cs=27

    Brett Sutton, Victorian Chief Medical Officer

    Acting on climate change and health in Victoria

    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.5694/mja2.50527

  17. rickw

    There’s no health risk with going for a drive either you moron.

    “Must get more control of everything.” Is the only rational explanation.

  18. Mother Lode

    So…if a pilot flies a plane then someone might think it is OK to drive a car?

    Supposedly these are people who would not have thought of driving a car before, due to whatever reasons, but who turn 180 degrees and decide to do so on the basis of an Anzac day fly over.

    And on the basis of these hypothetical people with very atypical reasoning, we cannot celebrate those who fought and died for our freedom.

    I begin to get the impression that our bureaucrats and politicians think the whole freedom thing is just some phase society went through during a sort of adolescence that we, now grown up, should leave behind as we stand patiently awaiting instructions from our betters.

  19. bruce

    The same QLD health minister who said it was safe for all QLD residents to vote in local elections
    March 31.
    The same health minister who said ok to allow 80 mourners to a Mackay funeral April 9. Five mourners for the rest of us.
    This government absolutely drives me insane. Shallower than a fish tank.

  20. Rod

    “I would like to think the Premier will look at this and say ‘there is no risk’ and [intervene] for the sake of our veterans. [For] many this will be the highlight of their day.”

    And that is the first and last time the premier was mentioned in the article. Very appropriate. Of course Palachook is not going to make a decision on her own. Every decision needs a lengthy review committee and recommendation.

  21. Some History

    From the ACT. That’s very kind of her.

    ACT Chief Health Officer Dr Kerryn Coleman is reminding everyone to do the right thing this Anzac Day long weekend and to stay at home.

    “This year we will observe Anzac Day in a different way and we encourage the community to commemorate by holding your own dawn service at the end of your driveway at 6am tomorrow morning, or by observing a minute of silence at 11.30am,” Dr Coleman said.
    “The safest thing to do tomorrow is to stay at home. If people wish to lay a wreath or leave a poppy at a significant site across Canberra, please do so in groups no more than two people, keep a distance of 1.5m from people, maintain good respiratory hygiene, and leave the area as soon as possible.”

    https://canberraweekly.com.au/one-new-case-of-covid-19-in-the-act/

  22. miltonf

    Young has the same scowl as that Warren woman.

  23. Perhaps the Qld CMO does not know that the wings on airplanes are longer than 1.5m.

  24. faceache

    tobacco. $99.95 for 50 grams rollies. $2000 a kilo

  25. faceache

    2nd most expensive thing Coles sell.

  26. Mark M

    ScoMo says his covid19 app will only give data access to the health departments.

    The same health departments that allowed the Ruby Princess passengers to disembark into the night?

    The same PM’s office that leaked material from Turnbull’s forthcoming book whilst assuring Australians that their data is safe with them?

    Quite so the lunatics are in charge and out of control.

    No thanks, I won’t be downloading it.

  27. H B Bear

    Gotta follow the rules at the Pony Club.

  28. H B Bear

    The longer this goes on the more absurd these claims will become.

  29. Rohan

    This is up there with the mother and daughter getting fined for the driving lesson.

    No it’s worse. Much worse. It’s the verbal desecration of every grave or unknown resting place of every fallen digger. Every drop they shed was in vein.

  30. Exit Stage Right

    Monday 4th May is Labour Day in Qld.
    Has the march through the city streets been cancelled, or are they still assessing risk?
    What say you Jeanette Young?
    Also interested in the funeral restrictions being lifted for the Police funerals in Dannograd!

  31. Adelagado

    I totally agree with the ban. If you let one person fly their restored WWII Warbird over the city , before long everyone will be doing it.

  32. mem

    Beachcomber
    #3427255, posted on April 24, 2020 at 5:10 pm
    You quoted Theodore Dalrymple. I would maintain it is one of the best explanations of why sane people are seduced into becoming leftist hypocrites, useful idiots and political thugs.
    I remember reading this a few years ago but have lost the reference to the article, so would greatly appreciate a link.

  33. rickw

    I totally agree with the ban. If you let one person fly their restored WWII Warbird over the city , before long everyone will be doing it.

    Exactly, in no time we’ll be seeing a full blown Battle of Britain re-enactment!

  34. Colonel Bunty Golightly

    Our local (village) supermarket doesn’t have toilet paper. Everyday I go for a 100km return ride to the nearest big centre to buy a few rolls. Every police car I see is in the usual hiding spots trying to catch speeders and that’s about it. If you want to go for a drive/ride have a valid excuse and perhaps carry a few props!

  35. thefrollickingmole

    mem

    Big bunch of his articles over here.
    https://www.city-journal.org/contributor/theodore-dalrymple_44
    Cant help you with the exact one, but heres one quite good.

    https://www.city-journal.org/html/rush-judgment-12282.html

    In their late twenties the most intelligent among them say to me, “There’s something missing in my life, but I don’t know what it is.” They remind me of the young people I met behind the Iron Curtain, who had never known any other life than that under the Communists, who knew little of the outside world and yet knew that their way of life was both abnormal and intolerable.

    My patients medicalize both their own misery and the terrible conduct of their violent lovers, a way of explaining their existential dissatisfaction that absolves them of responsibility. It takes little time, however, to disabuse them of their misconceptions, and the fact that I am often able to predict from very near the outset of our consultation how their lovers have behaved toward them astonishes them. Last week I saw a patient who had taken an overdose after her boyfriend beat her up. Our dialogue followed a set pattern.

    “And, of course, he sometimes grabs you round the throat and squeezes and tries to strangle you?” I ask.

    “How did you know, doctor?”

    “Because I’ve heard it practically every day for the last seven years. And you have marks on your neck.”

    “He doesn’t do it all the time, doctor.” This is the universal extenuation offered.

    “And, of course, he apologizes afterward and tells you it won’t happen again. And you believe him.”

    “Yes. I really think he needs help, doctor.”

    “Why do you say that?”

    “Well, when he does it, he changes completely; he becomes another person; his eyes stare; it’s like he has a fit. I really think he can’t help it; he’s got no control over it.”

    “Would he do it in front of me, here, now, in this room?”

    “No, of course not.”

    “Then he can help it, can’t he?”

    The woman’s desire to avoid a painful dilemma—love him and be beaten, or leave him and miss him—prevented her from asking herself the very obvious question as to why the “fits” happened only in the privacy of their apartment. Suddenly, inescapably, the responsibility for alleviating her misery became hers: she had to make a choice.

    “But I love him, doctor.”

    The triumph of the doctrine of the sovereignty of sentiment over sense would have delighted the Romantics, no doubt, but it has promoted an unconscionable amount of misery.

  36. Tim Neilson

    Exactly, in no time we’ll be seeing a full blown Battle of Britain re-enactment!

    Everyone always thinks it’s fun right up until a V2 takes out a “Dig for Victory” garden.

  37. mem

    thefrollickingmole
    #3427393, posted on April 24, 2020 at 6:40 pm
    Thank you Frolicking Mole. I am sure I will get the original article from the references. Quite brilliant insights into human behavior.

  38. Beachcomber

    mem

    I read the “Theodore Dalrymple” quote here.

    Not absolutely sure where it comes from. It seems to be sourced from an interview with Front Page Magazine in 2005, but the interview is not archived by the magazine and I can’t find it anywhere.

  39. Atoms for Peace

    Qld officially lost it today with their collective government muddling. Palacechooks has achieved Gillardian TV profanity in our house.

  40. Leo G

    This is becoming ludicrous. Have any of these health experts looked in the mirror to see what an idiot looks like?

    The most vulnerable are those in aged care facilities. Judge the competence of the experts by their performance in protecting those people from the small handful of infected and contagious people at large (probably no more than about 200 on any day, with 80% of the problem arising from only 40).

  41. Squirrel

    Next on the agenda is much increased testing (as mentioned at today’s press conference) and a National Surveillance Plan with “random testing” – not too hard to imagine what that will mean in practice.

    This idiotic overkill, in the face of a “curve” which is so flat that it is now a statistical flatline, is avoiding the real health issue – i.e. what do we do when the economic pressure to re-open the national border, in advance of a vaccine and/or treatments, is overwhelming.

    In the meantime, could politicians please stop the public emoting about every virus-related death as if those deaths are so much more terrible and tragic than any other death – they are not.

  42. Don

    The first MP to point this out. We need more MPs who can make such judgements rather than hide behind “the science”.

  43. Sentinel

    What level of economic pressure, or social pressure, will it take to reverse this idiocy. Even if unemployment reached 15% that still leaves 85% of the population, including the msm, isolated from real hardship and keeping their heads down so as not to rock the boat and jeopardize their cosy, sheltered positions.
    How many Police can you see saying stuff it this is all bollocks and risking suspension without pay?
    We live in a society neutered by PC, obedience, fear and risk aversion!

  44. Kneel

    “The fastest way to end this farce would be to reduce all bureaucrat and politician salaries by 25% until it was over…”

    I would suggest tying PS pay rates to unemployment and GDP numbers – this would focus them on getting it “right” because if policy fails, they pay the price, while if it works, they get rewarded. Make life better for more people = more pay, put 100k out of work and shrink the economy = pay cut. Hey, it’s a “market based” system, just like they want for Anti-human Gerbil Worming stuff, yeah? Just do it and watch the place lose petty regulations and useless departments that are just a drain on the productive. Instant PS efficiency gains.
    Ah, self interest of those with skin in the game – always bet on that!

  45. Kneel

    “…perhaps carry a few props!”

    I have a 10 pack of dunny rolls in the boot – if I’m stopped on the way “out”, I’m on my way to an elderly friend to deliver it, if stopped on the way “in”, I just picked it up from my friend who has plenty and kindly sold me some.
    What? Isn’t toilet paper “essential”? Isn’t it hard to get? What’s the problem here, C*nt-sta-bull?

  46. Lurks

    All these decision making academics speaking from positions of supposed eminence, not one with a skerrick of intelligence to be witnessed …. not even collectively.

    There has to be a revolution… these dunderheads need to be removed, our society needs a cull at the top to divert a total disaster.

  47. Leo G

    This idiotic overkill, in the face of a “curve” which is so flat that it is now a statistical flatline, is avoiding the real health issue – i.e. what do we do when the economic pressure to re-open the national border, in advance of a vaccine and/or treatments, is overwhelming.

    Not really overkill- more like idiotic bycatch.
    The “pressure” should be to develop means of selectively opening borders and eliminating indiscriminate lockdowns and social-distancing while adequately protecting those most at risk of serious illness or death from infection, and ensuring that overall rates of serious infection can be safely managed by the public and private health systems.
    Do our overlords really believe they can quickly eradicate Covid-19 in Australia while the pandemic still rages elsewhere, without any risk of recurrent outbreaks in Australia?

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