In the hands of idiots

It seems to me that every political leader wants to be remembered as the Winston Churchill of their times, when the reality is that there is no greater truth than rooster today, feather duster tomorrow. It is incredible what a bunch of fools this country is led by, state and federal.

We here in Victoria are blessed with the Laurel and Hardy duo of Dopey Dan and Slo Mo. Possibly the stupidest statement to come out of our present situation is from Paul Kelly in relation to the PM: “Political capital built during the virus crisis must be spent wisely on reform”. The only form of capital that occurs to me is capital punishment. We are led by such power-driven idiots that it is hard to have imagined this outcome before it became our reality. If any kind of reform is needed it is to find ways to limit the power we seem inadvertently to have put into the hands of our political leaders. Let me therefore take you to this from Adam Creighton – Coronavirus: We’re paying a high price for saving not many lives – who shows a great deal of what is now missing everywhere, common sense.

He discusses the absurd numbers flowing from the Victorian government. Whoever wrote the document he refers to should resign in disgrace:

The most absurd document published by an Australian government in recent times must be from Victoria’s Health and Human Services Department, which claimed 36,000 Victorians would have died from COVID-19 without the tough lockdowns brought in by Premier Daniel Andrews.

Adam Creighton also puts a number on what this is costing:

The cost [per life saved] is looking enormous and far more than we typically spend to save lives. If we’d followed the Swedish trajectory we might, crudely, have an extra 4500 fatalities by now (our population is 2½ times the size).

For the federal government alone, that works out at $48m per life saved, given the $214bn in budgeted federal assistance.

That is only the additional tally for federal money spent, leaving out the states. I did another similar estimate based on lost GDP which came to $300m per life saved. But let’s work with merely the $48m per individual life saved.

We are in the hands of idiots of such colossal proportions that no one will ever again be able to look back at the Salem Witch Trials and laugh at the people of their time since we are among people so far in advance with their own superstitions that believing in witches will eventually seem rational compared with the dolts we are in the hands of today.

LIBERTY QUOTE: This was the Liberty Quote just as I logged in, which seems to make my point much more clearly.

Every right that anyone has today is based on the doctrine that government is a creature of limited powers, and that the men constituting it become criminals if they venture to exceed those powers.

— H. L. Mencken

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42 Responses to In the hands of idiots

  1. NoFixedAddress

    And there is no way of changing ‘the system’.

  2. Robbo

    So who are we to believe, those who have the medical qualifications to make decisions about dealing with this virus, or those who put personal liberty ahead of everything? I know that Aussies love a punt but gambling with the lives of the most vulnerable in our society is to me a bet that I will not make.

  3. NoFixedAddress

    Robbo
    #3430036, posted on April 26, 2020 at 2:14 pm

    Let us quarantine the vulnerable and the fearful and let the rest live their lives.

    But choosing self quarantining means that you never emerge until there is a vaccine.

  4. NoFixedAddress

    And lift the restrictions on all medical practices

  5. Struth

    So who are we to believe, those who have the medical qualifications to make decisions about dealing with this virus, or those who put personal liberty ahead of everything? I know that Aussies love a punt but gambling with the lives of the most vulnerable in our society is to me a bet that I will not make.

    Pure virtue signalling.
    This lock down and our vacant hospitals that aren’t detecting early stages of cancers, heart disease etc, keeping beds empty for flu victims that aren’t coming, and the deaths from suicide and unchecked people living alone, and all deaths caused by the loss of liberty, which are substantial will already be far in excess of the victims of Corona Virus.
    Be their deaths on your hands, Robbo.

    You do not hand a nation into imprisonment based on the direction of single subject “experts”……especially when those experts all disagree with each other.
    For those people to make these calls show how insulated they are from reality.
    Studying medicine is not a prerequisite, or qualify you, for dictatorship.

  6. Mak Siccar

    Couldn’t agree more, Steve. As I posted on another thread.

    Mak Siccar
    #3429869, posted on April 26, 2020 at 12:22 pm
    Life under Dick-tator Dan in Victoriastan. Nothing surer than he will be the last pollie to let go of his grip on his inflated WuFlu power, and then only reluctantly. from the Oz,

    REMY VARGA
    2 HOURS AGO | 10.25AM
    Victoria police continue crackdown
    Victoria Police have issued 87 social distancing fines in the past 24-hours. Breaches include a hotel party, group gatherings in private residences and people who don’t live together found in a car without a reason for their travel.

    Victoria Police coronavirus taskforce Operation Sentinel conducted 688 spot-checks at homes, businesses and non-essential services across the state, bringing the total to 30,028 since March 21.

  7. lily

    Legal suicide is easily sought and accepted by a large part of Australian Society, but heaven help us if we allow a few elderly citizens catch corona virus and die, most seem to have other underlying problems any way.
    I wasn’t asked if I wanted to be locked up WHY.
    After spending a month on the Diamond Princess 14 days of that in quarantine while anchored in Japan and then a 14 day lock down in Darwin after having a virus test by the Japanese that was clear, this virus has been blown way out of proportion.
    Congratulations to the Japanese Govt. and Medical staff they were professional in every way. The handling of the Ruby Princess by the Aust. Govt. and the attitude by some Australians to the ship crew and passengers was disgusting.
    It seems as though a lot of Australians no long have the ability to think for themselves.

  8. Robber Baron

    Premier Andrews is saving lives, just look at the numbers. 36,000 would have died without his brave and decisive leadership. There are only 16 deaths. That proves he is a great leader. He is certainly looking after Victorians. He should be made Premier for life, he is that great!

  9. Robber Baron

    Victoria Police coronavirus taskforce Operation Sentinel conducted 688 spot-checks at homes, businesses and non-essential services across the state, bringing the total to 30,028 since March 21.

    That’s about 1,000 private properties per day that have been entered into. That’s got to be enough votes to tip him out.

  10. Given how the government was treated (especially Morrison) during the bushfire, by the media and Labor, I wonder if this is an over-reaction to how they would have been treated had they taken a less restrictive approach? When you also look at how the states have acted, not one premier wants to take any chance at being accused of causing an unnecessary death.

    I’d say that this is a media and ‘expert’ generated panic and over-reaction that most politicians simply couldn’t afford to be less careful about.

  11. That’s about 1,000 private properties per day that have been entered into. That’s got to be enough votes to tip him out.

    They were most likely Liberal voter houses that were raided. Interestingly though, don’t police require a warrant to enter a home?

  12. I wonder when people will start having COVERT-19 parties, like those music ones, just to put the finger up Dan the Man?

  13. shatterzzz

    So who are we to believe, those who have the medical qualifications to make decisions about dealing with this virus, or those who put personal liberty ahead of everything? I know that Aussies love a punt but gambling with the lives of the most vulnerable in our society is to me a bet that I will not make.

    I’m 72 don’t consider myself most vulnerable and would have quite happily taken my chance with BAT FLU without anyone being locked down or socially isolated or otherwise inconvenienced .. I’ve kids(4) and grandkids(8), life’s been fair & my current health is fantastic, no pills, no problems, no doctors, but I have no plans to live forever so if the BAT FLU wants me .. fair enough ..
    I’ve survived a bout with Cancer when no-one needed to make any, specific, sacrifices and been thru umpteen doses of flu without medical assistance and a few of those episodes most likely turned to Pneumonia but I always got better ..
    This, apparent, gummint concern about my health is touching but I’d be much more appreciative if Bradbury doubled the OAP

  14. Terry

    @bemused
    ‘Interestingly though, don’t police require a warrant to enter a home?’
    Silly bemused. You must be confusing this place with a liberal democracy that respects private property and the rule of law. How very quaint.

    Remember, Australians want this. They keep voting for it (especially in the Peoples’ Democratic Repupblic of Victoriastan – the most Leftarded state in the country).

    And the slow, but rapidly increasing descent into a full authoritarian police-state will continue until they vote to stop it; unless they wait just a little too long and they are forced to turn to their already confiscated firearms to shoot their way out.

    This is all going to end really well.

  15. Struth

    Weeks pass and nothing is happening, why?

    Because the MSM want this to happen, and caused it to happen, so there is no one holding these criminals to account.
    We can all make statements on blogs and write to papers, but nothing is going to happen, because no one can get to our pollies to challenge them and make them answerable.

    If your representatives are ignoring you, ignore them back, and in large numbers.

    They are accountable to us, but have imprisoned us so they do not have to be.
    It just takes ignoring criminal dictates and getting to them.
    Find out where they live, knock on the door and demand answers.

  16. Some History

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    In the hands of covidiots.

  17. shatterzzz

    We can all make statements on blogs and write to papers, but nothing is going to happen, because no one can get to our pollies to challenge them and make them answerable.

    I emailed my local (State) member the other day about a lockdown issue .. auto msg back .. Sorry this office is closed until further due to Covid19 restrictions
    This bloke is on full pay and working hard according to gummint propaganda waffling!

  18. sfw

    I’m assuming that the Vic offences are summary offences, if so they cannot enter private property without permission, they can approach your front door (implied right of entry) and knock, that’s it. You don’t have to answer the door or speak to them. If they find you in a public place, they must find you committing an offence (or in the vicinity and some other things). You can only be arrested for appearance in court or identity, other than that you don’t have to say a thing. Unless they see you obviously committing an offence, say playing golf or fishing, then all they can dois ask you what you’re doing, if you refuse to answer then the onus is on them to prove that you were ‘found committing’.

  19. Hay Stockard

    Steve,
    You are being far too nice about those arseclowns.

  20. Beachcomber

    In all of this remember that there is NO test that is specific for a so-called “COVID-19” virus. The rt-PCR technique, which is presently being used for testing for “COVID-19” was NEVER MEANT to be used for any diagnostic test. The test is just identifying segments of RNA that can come from any corona virus, of which there are dozens and are very common. (i.e. the common cold).

    A Covid-19 virus has never been isolated and demonstrated to be a disease-causing agent, and there are no plans to do so. Just to repeat (because you will never hear this from the government or the media); a Covid-19 virus has never been isolated and demonstrated to be a disease-causing agent.

    The whole pandemic hysteria was created at the start by University funded virologists hyping up the importance of their “research”.

  21. Some History

    The most absurd document published by an Australian government in recent times must be from Victoria’s Health and Human Services Department, which claimed 36,000 Victorians would have died from COVID-19 without the tough lockdowns brought in by Premier Daniel Andrews.

    Very impressive

    https://imgur.com/1CHWJhB

    What?

    https://imgur.com/QyK8FEK

  22. Roger

    If any kind of reform is needed it is to find ways to limit the power we seem inadvertently to have put into the hands of our political leaders.

    If only the High Court were sitting they could be asked to revisit their decision to grant the federal executive emergency powers. Many legal lacunae to be filled after this has passed.

  23. Beachcomber

    What is happening now is the collapse of what remains of the Western society of individual freedom and free enterprise. It is collapsing under the unsupportable weight of the ever-growing, bloated, parasitic, overly-complex, unaccountable governing apparatus of the West.

    The whole bloated mass of government and its’ supporting media have lost the capacity for reasoned thought and they exist only to further their own existence. War against free people, disguised as a war against a flu virus, is their strategy for survival.

  24. bruce

    Just how the hell do the states get such dictatorial powers?
    We the people have no say. Just like …China.
    Yes yes we have elections, but these days the choice is who’s the least harmful.
    The pollies know that and treat us like mugs which a lot of us are.
    e.g. look no further than Victoria and QLD.

  25. Perfidious Albino

    If only VicPol had found they time to follow up that Porsche guy a month ago eh…

  26. Roger

    Just how the hell do the states get such dictatorial powers?

    Public Health Acts, bruce.

  27. Greg J

    1 May 2020 – Freedom Day.

    Take back your freedom.

  28. Professor Fred Lenin

    All this political nonsense confirms my often stated contention that politics as a career should be forbidden . All political positions should have a limit of one term in office in a lifetime ,with ansolutely no exceptions . This would apply to all federal ,state and local governments ,agreed ain no exceptions .
    By doing this lobbying and rewards after politics would be criminal offences punishable by huge fines and long jail terms . All government would be subject to referenda ,deficit spending would be forbidden by draconian punishment . The constitution would be revised to make all citizens equal in rights and responsibilities ,with no exceptions . Then we coukd start to reform the many problems career politicians and overpaid arrogant public employees have created

  29. sfw

    Bruce and Roger, look up the powers of the Chief Fire Officer one day.

  30. Exit Stage Right

    I am a bit puzzled about this vaccine for the China Bug which may or may not materialise. Scomo and his Kitchen Cabinet and the various medical advisers all seem to be hanging their hats on this eventuality. Restrictions won’t be lifted until we have a vaccine seems to be the go to stance of the talking heads.
    So, if the vaccine becomes available in the short term (doubtful), what happens next?
    Do 26 million people get innoculated within a week or two? Or is it progressive over a few months? How do the authorities know who has been jabbed? What happens to those who refuse to be jabbed? Where are the vaccine ingredients going to come from? Wuhan? Who will the World be relying on to manufacture the vaccines? So many questions, so few answers.
    Seems to me that the dependence on this vaccine is just an excuse to continue the lock-downs. Claiming that restrictions can’t be lifted until the vaccine is available is the biggest furphy of all. Just kicking the can down the road.
    I said on the Open Forum some time back that the people will decide on when the restrictions will end. The people will increasingly see through this sham and take matters into their own hands.

  31. Peter Finch, I'm Mad as Hell

    A Covid-19 virus has never been isolated and demonstrated to be a disease-causing agent, and there are no plans to do so. Just to repeat (because you will never hear this from the government or the media); a Covid-19 virus has never been isolated and demonstrated to be a disease-causing agent.

    Beachcomber is absolutely correct. There are a number of papers claiming isolation but have found to be lacking or as some would say fraudulent. Google “The Rooster in the River of Rats – Koch’s Postulates” to see how a virus is meant to be isolated and tested. To date none have. So no vaccine for a long time so decide open up and let a lot of people get it and move on or lockdown and just delay letting everyone get it and move on. I’m 72 and not worried so let’s get on with it.

  32. bruce

    Amazing how few people have arbitrary control over so many.
    With the left marching unimpeded through through our institutions and egged on by the msm
    what comes next. Appear to be unstoppable.

  33. Dr Faustus

    I am a bit puzzled about this vaccine for the China Bug which may or may not materialise. Scomo and his Kitchen Cabinet and the various medical advisers all seem to be hanging their hats on this eventuality.

    It’s arguably their only release from the trap they have made for themselves by taking on political responsibility for a medically novel disease. Having invested so much destruction into the process, they certainly can’t now turn around and say: “Actually, as you were, it’s not quite as bad as we thought”.

  34. Leo G

    So, if the vaccine becomes available in the short term (doubtful), what happens next?

    Indications are that a majority of the population already has varying degrees of adaptive immunity to the virus- possibly from previous infection of a similar coronavirus. I expect a covid-19 vaccination would increase that majority a little overall, but it should provide the justification to remove the virtue signal traffic jam presently blocking rational decision making.

  35. Roger

    I said on the Open Forum some time back that the people will decide on when the restrictions will end. The people will increasingly see through this sham and take matters into their own hands.

    A lot of people in the shops, on the beach & at the park today.

    Assuming SloMo’s number 1 priority is getting re-elected, he’d better be planning to relax those restrictions.

  36. mareeS

    We broke the lockdown yesterday to visit my sister and brother-in-law, took some jigsaw puzzles and magazines as a care package, as she has recovered from breast cancer recently, before the virus. We sat around in the backyard, appropriately spaced, eating mandarins fresh off their tree, sharing some beers. A family Sunday afternoon as it should be.

    Stand us up against the wall and shoot us now.

  37. jupes

    So who are we to believe, those who have the medical qualifications to make decisions about dealing with this virus, or those who put personal liberty ahead of everything? I know that Aussies love a punt but gambling with the lives of the most vulnerable in our society is to me a bet that I will not make.

    Those who put personal liberty ahead of everything of course. Anyone who believes that medical ‘experts’ have your interests at heart is an idiot.

    You idiot.

  38. Bad Samaritan

    Beachcomber (4.08pm) Can you give a link? I love telling the uninformed the facts but “I read it from an anonymous person on a blog” never seems to cut through. Linky?

  39. Cynic of Ayr

    According to the ribbon at the bottom of the ABC with the sound turned off:
    USA . “Nearly ” One Million infected. (Infected, not died.)
    World: “Nearly Three Million infected.” (Infected, not died.)
    So, 1% of USA population infected in the USA. (Infected, not died.)
    So, 3% of the USA population World Wide infected. (Infected, not died.)
    Twenty Two Million out of work in the USA.
    So, 6.6% of the USA Population out of work, for 1% infections. (Infected, not died.)
    So, three people out of work, for one person infected. (Infected, not died.)
    Doesn’t seem to make much sense when you think that the USA had 60,000 killed (1500 still merely missing) and 153,000 wounded, of it’s own youngsters, in Vietnam not so long ago.

  40. Bad Samaritan

    Cynic. US population is about 330 million.

  41. Beachcomber

    Bad Samaritan at 8:37 am

    Beachcomber (4.08pm) Can you give a link?

    No worries. This review is very thorough and it cites many published papers.
    Flaws in Coronavirus Pandemic Theory

    This paper is an example what has been going on. It acknowledges that “virus isolates are unavailable” and then elaborately endeavours to give diagnostic credibility to an rt-PCR procedure.
    Detection of 2019 novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) by real-time RT-PCR

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