Virus naughty at the beach but miraculously placid in schools

SO says a convenient non-peer reviewed quicky “report” rushed out to give the country’s governments cover to send children back to their baby-sitters and avoid a generation-derailing curriculum bottleneck. It was cited by ship’s doctor and dinner party investigator, Brendan Murphy, so it must be sciencey.

NSW report tracking coronavirus cases in schools finds no teachers infected by students.

Chief Medical Officer Brendan Murphy cited the report on Friday at a press conference with Prime Minister Scott Morrison, who stressed that social-distancing measures did not need to be followed in schools…

Mr Morrison has repeatedly said teachers face a greater risk in the staffroom than the classroom — and it appears this report is the basis for that…

“It is also important for all adults, including teachers, to follow the social-distancing practices while at school and in the community.”

 
Clearly, Morro and Murph haven’t yet had time to quality-control the messaging on this latest ad hoc nonsense.

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29 Responses to Virus naughty at the beach but miraculously placid in schools

  1. John Comnenus

    The guy we trusted to conduct bio screening of the Ruby Princess doesn’t trust regular punters to do the right thing. That’s fucking rich coming from this utterly incompetent blame shifting arsehole.

  2. ryki

    What did you guys think epidemiology was for the past 100 years?

    Science?

    Welcome to that sinking feeling you get when you realise doctors are all evil and stupid.

  3. The answer is simple, before people can be got back to work, they have to be freed from child minding to do so.

  4. Yes, and it’s also safe to congregate in supermarkets, farmers markets, hardware stores etc, but definitely not at the beach in the sun and fresh air that is usually of great benefit.

  5. duncanm

    how many infections have been tracked to beaches? My bet, zero.

    .. oops, not even a need to guess: https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Pages/stats-nsw.aspx#source-table

    The closest to a beach we have is the Waverly Area cluster. 1-10 infections. Waverly is close to the coast, but does not encompass any beaches.

    The biggest hot spots are hospitals, QF28, childcare, and aged care.

  6. Lurks

    …. you serfs were non compliant of our Global Warming warnings; underwritten by the professors of doom.

    So now you can suck this Viral baloney up; same origins, same professors and the same delivery service via the same dork media.

    Do leopards change their spots. It should prove to be an interesting outcome, given the bullshit attached to the AGW conspiracy

  7. Lurks

    duncanm
    #3429710, posted on April 26, 2020 at 10:38 am

    The biggest hot spots are hospitals, QF28, childcare, and aged care.
    ………………………………………………………………………….

    Aye and not yet Identical to the hot spots one can reasonably expect from a seasonal flu either.

    The question needs to be asked; are the final resting places of expired souls experiencing an unseasonable increase in clientele eg: crematoriums or plot suppliers. Only numbers from those two industries would be the true gauge.

  8. Joanna Smythe

    The Unions are very worried about losing the power they thought they were getting. Their excuse is the perceived safety of the teachers. All they have to do is put a big glass box around every teacher and they should be safe. Problem solved.

  9. jupes

    So does that mean that kiddies can go to the beach?

  10. notafan

    Not in Australia.

    Not with 75 excess deaths.

  11. Let’s all play a game where the gatekeeper keeps discovering new rules.

  12. Bad Samaritan

    bemused (11.29am). good article though only stating the obvious.

    Stephen Conroy in 2012…..”Communications Minister Stephen Conroy has declared he has “unfettered legal power” over telecommunications regulation, including the ability to request Australian telcos “wear red underpants on their head”.

    There’s nothing much new about politicians humiliating people….or dreaming of doing so. This whole fiasco has been about mini-Adolfs demonstrating how willing they are to do so. And how willing the cops are to enforce their whims.

    The thing I’m not quite sure about is the ADF. While cops are partial to, and endlessly taught to, oppress the citizenry, ADF personnel are taught to defend and fight for them. ADF people also tend, as individuals, to be much more this mindset than coppers.

    Anyone wondering if the military might not be considering a “coup”, if this shyte goes on too much longer?

  13. Diogenes

    Disclaimer : I am a teacher , yet despite my advancing years & other issues I am ‘high risk’, I would gladly go back to work in a classroom tomorrow when term starts.

    My argument is not whether school goes back(no argument there!) but the hypocrisy that if there is no danger why not lift other ‘child’ centred restrictions?

    Having seen the ‘models’ ScoMo used for no social distancing – seriously? If one of my year 7 students had used those figures/graphs to justify an argument they would have received a grade of ‘non-serious attempt’.

    Schools obviously have magical properties, such that child to child transmission does not occur unlike say, a beach, a park, a skate bowl, EB games, Timezone or the movies…

    Students are encouraged to conduct themselves in a manner in the playground or school oval that would them slapped with a 1k fine if done on a street or public oval.

    Little Billy, Mary, Jane, and Freddy can sit so close to the teacher that they practically scrape the teacher’s nail polish off her toes (an analogy a primary teacher used) at school, but when it is little Billy’s birthday, and little Mary, Jane & Freddy come over to have a small party 4k in fines can be levied.

    I can obviously spend 6 hours a day with OTHER people’s children at school and not get the Wuflu , yet I cannot have my children bring MY grandchildren for a visit

  14. Mak Siccar

    Life under Dick-tator Dan in Victoriastan. Nothing surer than he will be the last pollie to let go of his grip on his inflated WuFlu power, and then only reluctantly. from the Oz,

    REMY VARGA
    2 HOURS AGO | 10.25AM
    Victoria police continue crackdown
    Victoria Police have issued 87 social distancing fines in the past 24-hours. Breaches include a hotel party, group gatherings in private residences and people who don’t live together found in a car without a reason for their travel.

    Victoria Police coronavirus taskforce Operation Sentinel conducted 688 spot-checks at homes, businesses and non-essential services across the state, bringing the total to 30,028 since March 21.

  15. C.L.

    My argument is not whether school goes back(no argument there!) but the hypocrisy that if there is no danger why not lift other ‘child’ centred restrictions?

    Indeed.
    An even better question (IMO) is, why weren’t special ‘reports’ commissioned to assess the relative safety of any number of other professions, trades, occupations or activities?

    There isn’t one single case of a beach-based transmission, for example.
    As I wrote weeks ago, the beach has become a symbolic arena for the state to showcase its willingness to break the will and spirit of Australians. My fervent wish is that a mass rebellion eventuates there – because that would redeem the pride of a cowered nation.

  16. H B Bear

    If schools are safe we should all be there.

  17. cuckoo

    the beach has become a symbolic arena for the state to showcase its willingness to break the will and spirit of Australians. My fervent wish is that a mass rebellion eventuates there

    And if it did, the ABC would be running file vision of the Cronulla beach riots in 3…2..

  18. Bruce in WA

    REMY VARGA
    2 HOURS AGO | 10.25AM
    Victoria police continue crackdown
    Victoria Police have issued 87 social distancing fines in the past 24-hours. Breaches include a hotel party, group gatherings in private residences and people who don’t live together found in a car without a reason for their travel.

    Victoria Police coronavirus taskforce Operation Sentinel conducted 688 spot-checks at homes, businesses and non-essential services across the state, bringing the total to 30,028 since March 21.

    I once made a living out of words, but after reading this — they fail me.

  19. Beachcomber

    The state lies in all the tongues of good and evil, and whatever it says is lies, and whatever it has, it has stolen, everything it is, is false, it bites with stolen teeth, and it bites often, it is false down to its bowels.

    ~ Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche, Thus Spoke Zarathustra [1896]

  20. Chester Draws

    Mr Morrison has repeatedly said teachers face a greater risk in the staffroom than the classroom — and it appears this report is the basis for that…

    Well, this is probably true, but it is also entirely irrelevant. Rock climbing without ropes is safer than using a wingsuit. So?

    If we really are all in this together, then we all have to take some pain and/or risk. That means teachers going back to school. I am a teacher, so I will be going back the minute they let me.

  21. Twostix

    Mr Morrison has repeatedly said teachers face a greater risk in the staffroom than the classroom — and it appears this report is the basis for that…

    So children now aren’t dangerous asymptomatic “carriers” who need to be locked away like flowers in the attic?

    Because that’s what we were told they were.

  22. Twostix

    On week two I said this was no longer about the actual virus. It’s about compliance and experimental public health polic and states vs the feds.

    It’s politics at every level.

    And if the government and its advisors are acting politically themln parliaments needs to be immediately reinstated so they can hold the government’s political decision making to account.

    Otherwise this is simply a naked tyranny.

  23. I cannot add anymore to the correct and biting commentary here.

    Well done lads and ladies.

  24. Mother Lode

    They will fight us on the beaches…

  25. In the past, whenever I said we’d become like Venezuela (or Zimbabwe at one time) if such and such was allowed to happen, people – including my own children – laughed at me.
    And here we are, in the blink of an eye.

  26. nfw

    Brendan Murphy? isn’t he of the hand washing claim? C’mon Brendan let’s have names, places, dates of all those who don’t wash their hands. Otherwise we might think you’re just making it all up and lying to us.

  27. Squirrel

    Put all the teachers on Jobkeeper until normal classes resume – that will settle the school thing.

    The beaches stuff might have to wait until ScoMo’s ready to go kahuna again.

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