… because you can always trust the government.

 

Update: I have replaced the picture with the actual front page.

This story is on the front page of the  Herald Sun today.

Impossible to believe but it must have leaked from Victoria Police. Just to be clear – Victoria Police is not a private organisation. Victoria Police wander the streets – with guns – and tell the rest of us what to do. This is an organisation that deploys the threat of violence, and upon occasion actual violence, to elicit compliance in the general community.

But apparently that’s okay – the police are under civilian control, they maintain social control for the good of us all.

This is the organisation that bragged about “grilling” a 13-year old girl at the football a few years ago.

This is the organisation that has allowed itself to become tax-collectors and a revenue source to the Victorian government.

This is the organisation that has run a vendetta against George Pell.

This is the organisation that has been harassing Victorians on the street for the last six weeks.

Overnight this is the organisation that has made every politician and public health official trying to promote the government’s COVID tracking app look like an absolute turkey.

Look at the photo’s again. That is the police breaking the law.

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107 Responses to … because you can always trust the government.

  1. Entropy

    Just talking to a Qld copper involved in covid response. He thought concerns about the app were silly. I strongly disagreed, saying it was a Pandora’s box and if it was made mandatory would also need specific legislative requirements to dispose of the data collected, and remove/eliminate the app framework once it is all over. Otherwise policy and purpose creep will be an inevitability, and as a policeman he should be all too aware of the ability of such technology for the government to know who a person is associating with. He was a bit taken aback.

  2. MrZee

    Well that’s not quite “the police” breaking the law. It’s someone within the police breaking the law probably for a few bucks from a media organisation

  3. Welcome Big Brother

    I for one welcome our Big Brother, I mean Victorian Police overlords. /s

  4. C.L.

    Can’t see the pay-walled article.
    Is the criticism that the photo was leaked or that he was de-wigged – or both?

  5. Mak Siccar

    Their long track record is utterly disgraceful along side that of their political overloads. It is a great pity that Sir Ken Jones wasn’t able to stay and clean the rot out from this diabolical monster that has the highest political protection.

  6. Zatara

    For those without paywall access… what is this all about?

  7. Sinclair Davidson

    Well that’s not quite “the police” breaking the law.

    Nah – bullshit.

  8. Tim Neilson

    Well that’s not quite “the police” breaking the law. It’s someone within the police breaking the law probably for a few bucks from a media organisation

    Technically correct but irrelevant.

    Likewise, if the app info gets misused to the serious detriment of private citizens, it might be that it will be just “someone within government” doing the damage, but that will be cold comfort to the individuals whose lives have been ruined.

  9. Sydney Boy

    Who in their right mind would think leaking a few photos to the media is worth losing a career?

  10. Bruce in WA

    Nah – bullshit.

    Couldn’t agree more. This was cold and calculated.

  11. C.L.

    Thanks, Google.
    Laidley is a Melbourne AFL identity.

    Fury over leaked police photos of troubled ex-AFL coach Dean Laidley arrested on stalking charges.

    An investigation is underway after photos of former North Melbourne coach Dean Laidley wearing a wig and makeup during a police interview were leaked online.
    The 53-year-old has been remanded in custody on one count of stalking after he was arrested in St Kilda on Sunday night.

    Photos taken of the father of three wearing a dress, blonde wig and makeup during his police interview were later leaked on Twitter prompting anger from Laidley’s lawyer and legal rights advocates.

    Despicable turds.

  12. Infidel Tiger King

    It’s actions like these that result in the community not caring as much as they should when 4 officers get minced on a freeway.

    VicPol is out of control.

  13. Behind Enemy Lines

    VicPol = Victoria’s second most dangerous and out-of-control crime gang.

    Right up there after the CFMEU and their ALP puppets.

  14. feelthebern

    Considering the tools the plod have, it would not be hard to see who uploaded the photo.
    If they don’t pursue it, it’s because they don’t want to.
    One rule for them.
    One rule for us.

  15. tombell

    why would anyone in their right mind ever trust a government or its agents?

  16. feelthebern

    Post Leveson Inquiry, if the Laidley pics were taking by the plod in the UK, the plod would be facing charges.

  17. C.L.

    VicPol claim they’re shocked and outraged, “investigating” etc.
    What bullshit.
    Some station cop took the pic on his phone and uploaded it.
    They would already know who the culprit is.

  18. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Sinc – you forgot to mention Vikpol’s role in the Lawyer X “scandal”.

  19. C.L.

    It’s actions like these that result in the community not caring as much as they should when 4 officers get minced on a freeway.

    VicPol is out of control.

    Tough but true.

  20. Infidel Tiger King

    Wonder what the quid pro quo was for leaking the pics?

    Did money change hands?

  21. harrys on the boat

    Sums up everything that is wrong with Victoria and, lets be honest, Australia.

  22. Perfidious Albino

    Mak – the good news is that apparently Sir Ken Jones has thrown his hat in the ring for the next Chief Commissioner – in my opinion, he would be ideal. The bad news is that there is a snowflakes chance in hell that he would be the successful candidate in Dan’s Victoria.

  23. Mother Lode

    Look, in general I am opposed to the app, but if it can be tweaked so as to alert people to pizza chefs going within 1.5m of a tin of pineapple then I think it might be worth it.

  24. tombell

    Well that’s not quite “the police” breaking the law.

    Nah – bullshit.

    correct weight. collective responsibility. just like when some mug punters are called out on Bondi beach for breaching bs guidelines – we are told we’re ALL responsible and laws/regs enacted imposing punitive sanctions on us ALL.

  25. Entropy

    VicPol are definitely rotted out, this is just another bit of evidence that the rot has extended from the head into the body of the police force.

    Looks like it needs a Fitzgerald type inquiry to clean it up.

  26. Nick

    Aren’t VicPol the woke, Trans friendly enforcers of all things ‘progressive’? This smacks of Trans shaming.

  27. Perfidious Albino

    Interesting that most of the media are reporting his arrest ‘for stalking and other offences’, Wikipedia (I know, but…) indicates the ‘other offences’ includes [edited Sinc].

    [I checked that out. Wikipedia did state that but the source document did not – and while I was there the Wiki was edited to remove that claim. Sinc]

  28. cuckoo

    Interesting. This was the lead item on the 7am bulletin on ABC radio this morning. Quite a long report in these slow-news days, but not. one. word. about the fact that it shows the subject in drag, which is the whole point of the story. They probably hadn’t checked his pronouns yet and didn’t want to make a mistake.

  29. cuckoo

    This smacks of Trans shaming.

    Exactly, and if Fatty Ashton finds the perp, that’s what they’ll be punished for.

  30. thefrollickingmole

    According to my old copper mate the police in WA have the pretty near absolute right to spy on their own members at will, including phones.
    Assuming its close to the same in Vic the bloke who did this is either very silly, on his way out anyway, or thinks they are in a position to get away with it.

    Falls very much in the “People should be left to their own private peccadilloes” (not armadillos, thats just perverse) as long as they arent hurting others or putting their hand into my pocket for something.

  31. Up The Workers!

    Shocking!

    Scandalous!

    Disgusting!

    I never for a single moment ever suspected that he could possibly have been a Labor voter, till these photos appeared!

    Maybe it is all just cheap publicity shots for an upcoming Footy Show starring him, on the A.L.P.B.C.?

    It’s all a bit discriminatory though – what about the other 77 Socialist Genders, or don’t they count? Surely Dodgy Dan’s sworn leakers could have photographed Laidley dressed up in their costumes too before accidentally “leaking” the evidence to the Party presstitutes?

    Oodathunkit!

  32. thefrollickingmole

    And just in case, I cant access the full story so dont know what hes charged with, so if it turns out to be molesting a dead horse or similar, Im against it.
    Unless the dead horse consented,

  33. Pyrmonter

    @ tombell

    It is not the role of the police to make laws, it is their role to enforce them, impartially, even-handedly but effectively. If you have a complaint about the law, your avenues lead to politicians and judges, who with some legitimacy can do something about them. The idea that the police should selectively enforce laws is as dangerous as the idea that they can make the laws up (as once or twice seemed to be the way the NSW Pol Commr wished to operate): anything else undermines the essence of the rule of law – that we are bound by laws, not the will of men.

    This is an abuse of police power. As others have noted, there have been ‘consequences’ for such action in the UK. Time there was here. And if the officers happen to reveal what the quid pro quo was from certain media organisations, whose campaigns for ‘shield laws’ would seek to make them immune to investigation, all the better: whenever a bribe is paid, an offence is committed by both the briber and the bribed.

  34. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Look at the photo’s again. That is the police breaking the law.’

    Yes. Yes it is.

    ‘It’s actions like these that result in the community not caring as much as they should when 4 officers get minced on a freeway.’

    Of course it is. One pollie is viewed by the public, and this is in no way a terrible thing, ‘the gummint’. One shit footy or cricket umpire becomes ‘umpires’. One cop becomes ‘the cops’.

    Everyone – and I mean everyone – has a ‘cop story’. 95% of the time it relates to being pulled over for something or other and given a ticket in dubious circumstances, which always results in that person telling his mates the pub or at work, and it goes from there. This is as it should be, and it’s why actual cops hate traffic cops almost as much as the public do.

    Sir Robert Peel said that the cops were merely members of the community, paid by other members of the community to do the shit things the rest didn’t want to do. And this is fine, but when it fucks up – as it most certainly has here – the people that pay for the jacks are very much entitled to ask what the hell’s going on.

    It’s a shit state of affairs, and if this cop isn’t thrown into the woodchipper in public the brass will no doubt wonder why their public image keeps going down the toilet.

  35. Mother Lode

    On the Bill Muehlenberg thread Roger has linked to this story

    Australia’s leading coronavirus expert at the World Health Organisation REFUSES to download the COVIDSafe app – despite Scott Morrison saying it’s our key to lifting lockdowns

    Saying that her involvement with WHO means that she is a Chinese lackey and an accomplice of sorts in the Wuhan Flu pandemic.

    This app is in fact something the Chinese government would love, be able to keep track of each citizen’s whereabouts – and here I am only guessing they don’t have it already.

    How long until the police request access so they can check where people were when something or other happens. And it is not even as if criminals won’t be able to get around it – turn off your Bluetooth, leave your phone somewhere and use someone else’s etc. The only people this will work on is regular law abiding people such as those the police lie in wait for in case they drive 5kph over the speed limit (rather than stopping car thefts and burglaries).

    And of course the information will be secure – they tell us it will be.

    People say it is like Facebook. If you have nothing to hide why would you be worried etc.

    I would ask how they would feel if every night they had to write down a record of everywhere they were that day and what times and send it in to a government department, because this is what it is. Being automated the procedure unseen people don’t really think about what is going on – it will be under the threshold of awareness: The strategy employed by people doing the illicit.

  36. Fred

    It wouldn’t be hard to find the culprit.

    The location of the station is known. All cops on duty that night will be known. The location of cops on duty at the time of his interview will be known. A quick search of all their phones will find the picture.

    But don’t expect this officer to be named and dismissed from the force.

  37. 2dogs

    One wonders whether the leaking these photos was the purpose of him being arrested in the first place.

    I think the committal judge would have a hard time letting this one proceed to trial.

  38. Up The Workers!

    I seem to recall that Vicpol has been represented in several ‘gay pride’ marches in the past, with Christine Nixon having been memorably prominent in one such march during her term in control.

    What is the point being made with the “leaking” of this photo?

    Maybe, given Fatty Ashton’s pending retirement, Laidly was merely auditioning for the role as the next Labor Party Head of the Mogadishu-by-the-Yarra Political Police Farce?

    After the disgraceful stitch-up and framing of Cardinal George Pell for an imaginary offence which never occurred, nothing would surprise me.

  39. Knuckle Dragger

    Transplanted from the OT – perhaps better suited here.

    The copper – and make no mistake, it was a copper – who took that pic of Laidley being interviewed is a cock and, if a city boy should spend the next ten years in Cann River. If a country boy, Kew. Next to monty’s place. No no. Flemington.

    Duzzenmadda if you’re famous or a tranny or whatever – most people inside an interview room (aside from the jacks) are there because they’ve had one of the worst days of their lives. If he was off his tits and dancing on the table I could potentially understand it but not accept it. But look at the bloke. Jesus. If that ain’t rock bottom you can see it from where he is.

    There are, allegedly, golden rules. Never lay hands on another bloke’s crook. You don’t speak to another bloke’s crook unless invited to. You never compromise another bloke’s crook. Apparently you can do all that to your own crooks, but not other people’s.

    What that copper’s done is made the investigation into what Laidley did very much harder, and a sideshow behind him dressing up like a chick with bad makeup. It’s also guaranteed to reduce or eliminate any sentence he may have had, because any mouthpiece worth his salt will argue long and loud that Laidley’s been unfairly judged in the court of public opinion, humiliated etc etc.

    It’s a shit state of affairs, and judging by the detectives’ sizes in that interview room the offending copper may just develop a balance problem.

  40. Mother Lode

    Gawd.

    because this is what it is equivalent to.

    The strategy employed opportunity sought by people doing the illicit.

  41. rickw

    Never forget this:

    Vicpol have amassed 700 AR-15’s
    Vicpol have amassed 300 select fire M-4’s (select fire means it can fire fully automatic and semi-automatic)

    (This is despite Lindt Cafe inquiry confirming that these firearms are highly unsuitable to most types of policing scenarios due to high velocity ricochet’s, range and penetration of building structures.)

    Vicpol insisted that all Gun Shops are closed and all gun and ammunition sales stopped, rumour is that this will be 12 months.
    Vicpol has consistently applied selective policing depending on whether or not you are an approved citizen or group.
    Vicpol has actively canvassed for victims when no victims presented themselves in order to pursue Vicpol’s nominated targets.

    Maybe we are slowly in the process of finding out why the world’s oldest republic has a Second Amendment.

    Vicpol is an incredibly dangerous criminal cartel. Their members are specifically recruited to have zero awareness of this very obvious fact.

  42. Craig

    Yes, this is the very reason I will download the app, NOT! The government and its police puppets will use this to its own end and will tell us its all about safety.

    They can go and fuck themselves sideways.

  43. Sinclair Davidson

    I think the committal judge would have a hard time letting this one proceed to trial.

    Depends on the charges and what he was doing.

  44. cuckoo

    Isn’t that Nicola Gobbo in the right-hand photo?

  45. Rex Mango

    That fine upstanding media organisation, the ABC is not running with those photos. Do wonder though, would the ABC do the same if it was George Pell?:

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-04/dean-laidley-former-north-melbourne-coach-in-custody-stalking/12210590

  46. Free Radical

    Isn’t that Nicola Gobbo in the right-hand photo?

    Caitlyn Jenner. Does that change the anti-VicPol sentiment?

  47. cuckoo

    Our media are giving some airtime to people who don’t want to download the virus app, but they’re almost always leftists whose only objection to it is that the data may up in AmeriKKKa, and will somehow be used to help Trump and MURDOCH to get Julian Assange into the gas chamber or electric chair or lethal injection, probably all three.

  48. areff

    Three things that would benefit Victoria greatly:’

    1/An end to fixed terms. We’re stuck with Dirty Dan for another three years.

    2/ A recall option, as in the US

    3/ An opposition in more than name

  49. stackja

    Just catching up. Vic Pol has form,

  50. Up The Workers!

    To Fred, at 11.39am:

    You say that finding the culprit for the act of leaking these photos would not be difficult.

    You’d be surprised at just what is too difficult for Farce Command at the Mogadishu-by-the-Yarra Police Farce.

    One of the more unusual crimes to have been revealed recently was the 258,000 criminally fraudulent breath-tests which were falsified by certain unknown Police Officers in order to keep the numbers up and make it look like the non-existent Labor “Law and Order” drive was much more vigorous than it actually was.

    Despite these 258,000 criminal acts of false reporting having been discovered a couple of years ago, Farce Command has not yet managed to finger a single culprit – despite the culprit’s name and badge number presumably being on the bottom of each and every one of those 258,000 individual records of fraudulent breath tests. You wouldn’t reckon it would require the skills of a Sherlock Holmes to solve – but so far it has utterly beaten all the forensic Detective skills of Dodgy Dan’s Labor Police Farce.

    Maybe they should get Carl Beech on the job again and charge Cardinal Pell?

    Your taxes at work.

    And this is how Dodgy Dan’s Police Department is run.

    Once upon a time their motto was: “Tenez la Droit” (Uphold the Right).

    Nowadays, it is evidently: “Tenez le Gauche” (Uphold the Left).

  51. notafan

    Don’t know about the average copper but I had no idea who the gentleman was or why his photos would be of particular interest to the media.

    Might narrow down potential suspects, even in the police farce.

  52. cuckoo

    That fine upstanding media organisation, the ABC is not running with those photos.

    This would be the same ABC that, as a matter of policy, refused to run pictures of that dopey bogan jihadi wannabe shouldering a rocket launcher. But made sure to always and only ever run the ridiculous and entirely irrelevant photo of Trevor Flugge (AWB ‘bribery’ scandal) bare-chested and brandishing a handgun, when plenty of normal photos were available.

  53. cuckoo

    At least we’ve found the next Frank N. Furter, now that Craig McLachlan is no longer available.

  54. thefrollickingmole

    Do wonder though, would the ABC do the same if it was George Pell?:

    That would be the same ABC that ran a “religion” piece interviewing a dull dyke who was castigating the Sydney diocese as being “behind the times” and needing to allow women priests and lots less talking about sin etc, because it made her feel bad.
    That ABC.

  55. Frank

    Was it the Vic police that shot that couple while they were shagging at a swingers bar because he had a plastic pistol?

  56. candy

    An abuse of power, but I figure the police officer knows he’s protected by his superiors, otherwise why risk his career and reputation. So he/she is okay. As well the journalists are protected in some way. Some kind of collusion.

    What I find bad also is the distress then caused to this guy’s family etc seeing this in the media. Their privacy is violated.
    Lockdown causes enough problems let alone the media and police splashing someone’s family troubles on the front page of a newspaper illegally.

  57. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Farce Command has not yet managed to finger a single culprit – despite the culprit’s name and badge number presumably being on the bottom of each and every one of those 258,000 individual records of fraudulent breath tests.’

    Nup.

    All these occurred prior to the new machines being introduced. The older models never recorded time/date/place/persons doing the test. In fact, the machines never even recorded the numbers of tests because they couldn’t.

    I’m not defending them, but the brass put a quota of tests to be conducted by the cops that was so large it physically couldn’t be accomplished. Then they wondered why the test numbers got pumped up, which was because the local bosses didn’t want to be sent to Orbost or Wangaratta or Horsham for not reaching unreachable targets.

  58. Up The Workers!

    Dressed like that, and with similar make-up and lippy, etc., Dean Laidley could go on to become Federal Director of the U.S. F.B.I.

    There IS a precedent, as I recall.

  59. feelthebern

    2/ A recall option, as in the US

    Good idea in theory.
    But easily gamed.
    & considering how statists are better organised & have tax payer funding in Australia, it would be counter productive.

  60. Look, in general I am opposed to the app, but if it can be tweaked so as to alert people to pizza chefs going within 1.5m of a tin of pineapple then I think it might be worth it.

    Call the app Nopineapp and I’ll not only download it, I’ll invest in the company.

  61. feelthebern

    Call the app Nopineapp and I’ll not only download it, I’ll invest in the company

    Good.
    We pro pineapple don’t want you either!
    Segregation now.

  62. Anita

    I don’t live in Victoria but the stories I hear and read about Vic Pol, Dan Andrews and the CFMEU, it worries me that this may be Australia’s future if Labor gets into power in all states and to top it all a Labor Federal Government!

  63. Leigh Lowe

    Just because “the public is interested” does not mean it is “in the public interest” to publish.

  64. Goanna

    The Victorian police told us “ Run. Hide. Beg.”

    They were actually warning law abiding citizens that the police themselves are the ones we should be running from.

  65. Lee

    Mak – the good news is that apparently Sir Ken Jones has thrown his hat in the ring for the next Chief Commissioner – in my opinion, he would be ideal. The bad news is that there is a snowflakes chance in hell that he would be the successful candidate in Dan’s Victoria.

    From what I know about Jones, I think that if he got the job, he would definitely not be Dictator Dan’s toady.

  66. Rebel with cause

    Laidley was just getting ready to do a kids book reading at the state library

  67. Entropy #3439136, posted on May 4, 2020 at 10:57 am
    Just talking to a Qld copper involved in covid response. He thought concerns about the app were silly. I strongly disagreed, saying it was a Pandora’s box and if it was made mandatory would also need specific legislative requirements to dispose of the data collected, and remove/eliminate the app framework once it is all over. Otherwise policy and purpose creep will be an inevitability, and as a policeman he should be all too aware of the ability of such technology for the government to know who a person is associating with. He was a bit taken aback.

    Those fellers just can’t get enough regulation.
    Back in the golden age of blogging, anyone who followed the Inspector Gadget blog was impressed by his style & revelations of the state of UK policing.
    Nowdays Gadget is a humourless advocate of increased regulation (administered by Bobbies, natch) draconian punishments for the citizenry & for stasi type clampdown on anything.
    Anyone still following him is a masochist (or is doing it to keep their blood pressure from straying too low)

  68. Shy Ted

    And that’s why you never go for the cheapest mascara. They just run.

  69. H B Bear

    Just another day in Victoriastan.

    Australia’s most progressive State.

    How does Fatty Ashton still have a job?

  70. Robber Baron

    Laidley was stalking (allegedly), so it’s quite conceivable that he was in disguise (allegedly). He probably should have had a better disguise. What’s wrong with a fake beard and glasses?

  71. Megan

    From what I know about Jones, I think that if he got the job, he would definitely not be Dictator Dan’s toady.

    Which is precisely why he won’t get the gig.

  72. Leigh Lowe

    Robber Baron

    #3439416, posted on May 4, 2020 at 1:55 pm

    Laidley was stalking (allegedly), so it’s quite conceivable that he was in disguise (allegedly). He probably should have had a better disguise. What’s wrong with a fake beard and glasses?

    It was St Kilda.
    Dreadlocks, tatts, grubby clothes, stumpy teeth and shouting at the sky should ensure you blend into the background.

  73. Megan

    All mascara runs, Ted. You need to buy the waterproof version which you cannot shift with paint stripper and have to wait for it to wear off or your lashes fall out. Whatever comes first.

  74. Rob MW

    An investigation is underway after photos of former North Melbourne coach Dean Laidley wearing a wig and makeup during a police interview were leaked online.

    Vic police leaking interview photos is despicable with the main objective to corrupt any jury pool by tainting due process and the presumption of innocence & removing any right to natural justice.

    Looks like Vic has placed criminals in charge of the criminal justice system. The time is fast approaching that across the board Common Law needs to be put into the Constitution and fully codified under section 80 of the Judiciary Act 1903.

  75. H B Bear

    Victoriastanis are being treated like any other socialist regime.

    The rule of law is ignored and they are abused by anyone in a position of authority, all without consequence because they know they are protected by the regime.

  76. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Braindead lamestream meeja reporting that a cop has been suspended and is facing charges over the leaked photos.

  77. Robber Baron

    Best to avoid having anything to do with police. Only involve them if absolutely necessary, otherwise just ignore them and always treat them as agents of the state out to harm you.

  78. Systemic failure drives Victoria Police. Crooked cops, corrupt legal counsel and dumb criminals. Rinse and repeat, withevery generation. Cardinal Pell didn’t stand a chance.

  79. rafiki

    Leigh Lowe at 1.50: ‘Just because “the public is interested” does not mean it is “in the public interest” to publish.’

    In the early years of the Commonwealth FOI Act, I did a lot of work for a diverse range of people using the Act to get information held by government about policy development. The most commonly claimed exemption required consideration of the public interest in disclosure, and the government frequently invoked the concept you advocate. When the exemption was supported by an exemption certificate, the claim was impossible to overcome. It is a weak claim. If there are members of the public are interested in what the government they pay for are up to, the presumption should be that it is in the public interest to be given access to relevant information.

    The Laidley matter is not an FOI matter of course, and the ground for criticism of the police involved is the egregious invasion of privacy, as the leadership of VicPol has acknowledged. The media who have published the photos to the public have committed a graver breach. (And this is true too of the pre-trial publicity in the Pell case.)

  80. rafiki

    Come to think of it, why are these pictures posted on Catallaxy? Is this not giving further publicity to photos that constitute a grave breach of privacy?

  81. Googoomuck

    @Knuckle Dragger

    #3439295, posted on May 4, 2020 at 12:12 pm

    All these occurred prior to the new machines being introduced. The older models never recorded time/date/place/persons doing the test.

    A couple of years ago I had to go to a morning meeting in Abbottsford. I missed the turn into the car park but it was too narrow to u-turn plus the road had double lines. It is a quiet side street next to the freeway. So on I go, looking for somewhere to turn back. VicPol had a breathalyzer set up just past my destination so I got tested. All good, on I go. I literally took five minutes to do my turn and head back. Stopped again at the same breathalyzer and tested. Constable Jobsworth muttered something about being mandatory to test. Yeah right, I thought. I wonder what the quota was that day. It was pretty quiet and I think somebody wanted to finish ASAP.

  82. Lee

    How is the Herald Sun’s publishing these pictures possibly in “the public interest”?
    I bet if his name was Joe Blow, they would not have published them.

  83. rafiki

    Lee
    I did not make this claim. My comment was directed to the weakness of the distinction drawn by Leigh Lowe.

    It is obvious from other comment that I think the photos should not have been published by The Sun. Nor by Caatallaxy.

  84. Pedro the Loafer

    Turns out it was a VicPol Senior Constable who took that photo and sent it on to some of his/her colleagues.

    Could Joe Pubic’s confidence in the Victorian Police sink any lower?

  85. Lee

    Lee
    I did not make this claim. My comment was directed to the weakness of the distinction drawn by Leigh Lowe.

    I didn’t think that you did make the claim; mine was just a general comment on the media’s idea of “public interest,” and how wrongheaded it often is.

  86. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Not all Victorian cops are corrupt fascists. Some are doing valuable police work:

    No. just the ninety percent that are corrupt fascists that give the rest a bad name.

  87. Yeah nah, bugger him I say. These mad Mondays are gettin’ out of hand.
    Make an example of one or two of these yobbos.

  88. Davey Boy

    In my experience, I get the impression that many Vicwegians seem fixated on AFL, its personalities and players. So when an AFL ‘name’ does something a bit different many of the Vic public (and also it seems, the Vic plod) wet their pants with excitement. There is no similar behaviour I have seen in other states (for example there is no widespread worshipping of NRL players or coaches by Sydneyites, not sure about Qld). Looking at it all from interstate, it reinforces the view of a preponderance of parochial Victorians (maybe just Melbournites) acting as they always have, that is (for example) no awareness that the rest of Australia doesn’t use 03 as a phone number area code.

  89. MatrixTransform

    abused by anyone in a position of authority, all without consequence because they know they are protected by the regime.

    We’re a very progressive state

  90. candy

    Turns out it was a VicPol Senior Constable who took that photo and sent it on to some of his/her colleagues.

    And there’s a big chance this is not a once off. Why would a senior constable risk his/her future unless they were confident of the group they were in, distributing photos and stuff they find on people’s phones for their enjoyment.
    I find it very hard to believe it was just one occasion.

  91. calli

    I’ve just caught up with this story.

    That poor, poor man.

    Whoever took that photo, uploaded it and published it is a disgrace.

  92. calli

    Come to think of it, why are these pictures posted on Catallaxy? Is this not giving further publicity to photos that constitute a grave breach of privacy?

    The “story”, such as it is, is out there now rafiki.

    And now it’s a story, not of the person pictured, but the abuse that the government and their minions can inflict on a member of the public.

    This man’s peccadillos aren’t the story. The abuse is.

  93. Fred

    A police officer friend of mine pulled over a North Melbourne footballer a couple of years ago. She had no idea who he was. Just some derro driving a commodore.

    She ran his licence through the computer. A couple of days later she got a call from someone up the chain asking why she was accessing an AFL footballers details.

  94. Squirrel

    Aside from that litany of sins and perfidies, they have uniforms that manage to look sinister and daggy at the same time – so sad.

  95. Calli
    The story can be reported, with some description of the photos, without the need to provide another channel of communication of the photos.

    Although the charges are relatively minor, and will not be tried before a jury, there is still the pre-trial publicity objection. Reflect on the Pell case. Sure, the police were wrong to broadcast what they were doing, but the prejudice to Pell (which was extreme) resulted from media broadcasting of what the police said. And so far I think no one in the media has been brought to account.

  96. Lee

    My apologies Lee.

    None necessary, Rafiki.

  97. Leigh Lowe

    For those who struggle with reading comprehension .
    .

    Leigh Lowe

    #3439348, posted on May 4, 2020 at 12:50 pm

    Just because “the public is interested” does not mean it is “in the public interest” to publish.

    And this is not a legal opinion.
    It is an oft-quoted, long-standing media ethics maxim, which has nothing to do with the minutiae of the backwaters of FoI administration.

  98. Tintarella di Luna

    I’ve just caught up with this story.

    That poor, poor man.

    Whoever took that photo, uploaded it and published it is a disgrace.

    That’s Victoria Police for you, the caring, sharing, we’re all in this together, we want to make sure the community is staying safe that’s why 8 police officers questioned a homeless woman as to what she was doing in the park with all her belongings in a trolley and not at home.

    Victoria police mourning the grave loss of of four police officers whose mangled dying bodies were captured on film and uploaded to social media by the reprehensible Richard Pusey, just appalling.

    I guess the numbskull police officer thought — well if it’s OK for scum like him to do use social media it’s OK for a fine upstanding police officer like me to do it too — Uphold the Right and all that.

  99. Tintarella di Luna

    Best to avoid having anything to do with police. Only involve them if absolutely necessary, otherwise just ignore them and always treat them as agents of the state out to harm you.

    Indeed Robber Baron — looks like the separation of powers that cornerstone of the Westminster system has crumbled and the whole damn edifice is collapsing but no-one’s noticing because they’re too busy watching MAFS, cat videos and/or gaming.

  100. Up The Workers!

    Regarding the Peking Pox tracking app, some 35 years ago, the Commissars of the A.L.P. tried a similar totalitarian move when they launched a low-tech attempt to track all the wild beasts of Australian citizenry and taxpayers with what they referred to then as the “Australia Card”. (Sort of similar to what Nazi Concentration Camp inmates had tattooed on their arm – but without the burning sensation. It’s a Socialist ‘thing’, apparently)

    Bill Landeryou’s good mate, Honest Bob the Poor Childrens’ Friend, tried to introduce it and was widely excoriated for the attempt to “Big Brother” the community. The scam was eventually dropped when Labor(sic) (whose scant literacy and numeracy has never been a strength) stuffed up the enabling legislation, meaning that their totalitarian plans could have been overturned by the Senate, where they lacked a majority.

    In Communist China when the Socialist Misgovernment there wishes to achieve a similarly effective tracking and pacification of the citizenry, they usually just resort to the simple but direct expedient of a small lump of lead expertly placed just behind the ear at a great velocity.

  101. Pyrmonter

    @ Up The

    A remote time when the coalition was concerned about liberty (could you imagine that from the Queensland contingent now? Peter Dutton’s office surrender power?) and the Senate minority party was a bunch of lightweight centrists, not watermelons and brownshirts. Can’t see it happening now.

  102. yarpos

    “Well that’s not quite “the police” breaking the law. It’s someone within the police breaking the law probably for a few bucks from a media organisation

    Technically correct but irrelevant.

    Likewise, if the app info gets misused to the serious detriment of private citizens, it might be that it will be just “someone within government” doing the damage, but that will be cold comfort to the individuals whose lives have been ruined.”

    What? Not irrelevant at all. One person cant be conflated with an organisation, which is what the writer is doing to make a different point. Interesting read but its a false equivalence.

  103. Atoms for Peace

    It’s always mystified me as to how quickly an accused past criminal history hits the media swamp these days..sarc..

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