Thursday Forum: May 7, 2020

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  1. Rex Mango says:

    Mole, cavalry wore jhodpers too.

  2. rickw says:

    Once Mulkearns gave the green light, regional Victoria became pedo phile central.

    Do you reckon Dickhead Dan might have been rooted by one?

  3. Top Ender says:

    Interesting Zulu – do you have a source?

    I read he mounted a captured enemy MG above the mantelpiece in the family home, much to mum’s disgust.

  4. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    Military hero Ben Roberts-Smith denies AFP war crimes move

    Paul Maley
    National Security Editor
    @paul_maley
    2 hours ago May 7, 2020

    Australia’s most decorated war hero, Ben Roberts-Smith, has ­denied reports that the Australia Federal Police has referred him to prosecutors to face possible war crimes charges over his conduct while an SAS trooper during the war in Afghanistan.

    In a day of confusing developments, The Australian has been told that a brief of evidence has been sent to the Commonwealth Director of Public Prosecutions, bringing the 18-month criminal probe into Mr Roberts-Smith one step nearer to conclusion.

    Mr Roberts-Smith issued a statement on Thursday rubbishing reports in The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age newspapers that police had referred­ him to the CDPP for possible charges.

    He said his lawyers had received­ assurances from police that the report was false.

    The former SASR operator and Victoria Cross recipient accused­ the newspapers, which he is suing for defamation, of acting­ with malice and demanded that they withdraw the claim.

    “Lawyers acting for Ben ­Roberts-Smith have (on Thursday) received confirmation from AFP investigators that no brief of evidence has been submitted by federal agents to the (CDPP) and there is still an investigation that is still ongoing,’’ the statement read.

    “It is very troubling that yet again Nine has published untrue allegations from unnamed sources about me.

    “I have consistently maintained my innocence to any such allegations. I have co-operated and provided assistance to both the AFP and the (Inspector-­General of the Australian Defence­ Force) in relation to their ongoing investigations.

    “I will continue to do so.’’

    The Australian has been told, however, that police did recently furnish prosecutors with a brief of evidence. It related to the alleged murder of Afghan man Ali Jan, who was killed on September 11, 2012, during an SAS operation in the village of Darwan.

    Mr Roberts-Smith has vehemently denied any wrongdoing, saying Ali Jan was a Taliban insurgen­t killed during a lawful engagement with the enemy.

    The contradictory claims were the latest chapter in a legal battle between Mr Roberts-Smith and Nine Entertainment, which now owns The SMH and The Age.

    The AFP declined to comment on the confusion. “Consistent with our usual approach to protecting the integrity of ongoing investigations, we do not disclose specific details,’’ the AFP spokeswoman said. The CDPP also refuse­d to clarify the situation.

    The Australian has been told that even though a brief of evidence has been given to the CDPP, detectives are still investigating the alleged incident. It does not mean Mr Roberts-Smith will be charged.

    Apologies for the wall of text, but I’ve posted the whole article. Good luck getting anyone to try for Special Air Service Regiment if this goes ahead.

  5. harrys on the boat says:

    Paul Murray has spent the last few weeks fellating the government and applauding the economic destruction of the country. A bit fucking late to pick a fight with a fag over lockdowns.

  6. Bar Beach Swimmer says:

    TG, hope you get well quickly, from whatever you have. Take care.
    👍

  7. Top Ender says:

    Arms and Armour Quiz 2 – WWI fighters

    1. How many triplane fighters were in production in WWI, and from which manufacturers? Nieuport, Sopwith, Fokker and Curtiss

    2. Why in simple terms was the triplane not worth continuing with? Speed was more important than lift.

    3. What was considered by most fighter pilots to be the best position from which to attack a bomber? Below and behind – under the tail.

    4. What gun configuration was fitted to some WWI fighters to best facilitate this? An MG on the top wing as well as a forward firing MG.

    5. In which fighter did the gunner stand up to fire backwards? Royal Aircraft Factory FE2 aeroplane of 1914.

    6. Which aircrew used parachutes the most in the Great War? Balloonists.

    7. How did von Richthofen commemorate each of his aerial victories? Each was recorded with a small silver cup which were displayed in rows in his quarters.

    8. What aspect of their uniform distinguished the Royal Flying Corps amongst the rest of the khaki-clad world? Their double-breasted tunic.

    9. What was arguably the most unusual engine arrangement of any WWI aircraft?

  8. Boambee John says:

    Top Ender

    Double breasted jackets?

  9. Bar Beach Swimmer says:

    harrys on the boat
    #3444370, posted on May 7, 2020 at 10:00 pm
    Paul Murray has spent the last few weeks fellating the government and applauding the economic destruction of the country. A bit fucking late to pick a fight with a fag over lockdowns

    +1

  10. rickw says:

    All the conditions are right. High density, cold, filthy city, tonnes of immigrants without a culture of sanitation, lax left wing government.

    I reckon it’s primed and ready to explode, the lockdown clusterfuck will have done nothing toward stopping the emerging Victorian COVID-19 clusterfuck. The Leb meatworks will just be the first of many.

  11. feelthebern says:

    A bit fucking late to pick a fight with a fag over lockdowns.

    No way?
    Clearly ScoMo’s been texting him.

  12. Crossie says:

    harrys on the boat
    #3444370, posted on May 7, 2020 at 10:00 pm
    Paul Murray has spent the last few weeks fellating the government and applauding the economic destruction of the country. A bit fucking late to pick a fight with a fag over lockdowns.

    Take him with a grain of salt, he is friends with ScoMo and has been pushin* his barrow. Even when he says he’s on the Trump train he uses that to then trash Trump.

    I’m starting to think Chris Smith may be on the road to challenge him on Sky News.

  13. Rex Mango says:

    ZK2A, problem is modus operandi similar to Pell. Go to Afghan, trawl for evidence, then run the case & also using the media. These Afghan witnesses years after the event with compo payouts on offer are worthless, but will be gobbled up by an Australian judge. Only interesting angle is the sniping from within the unit which is odd and should’ve been sorted long ago by the army.

  14. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    9. What was arguably the most unusual engine arrangement of any WWI aircraft?

    A multi engined Russian bomber, but I’m damned if I can remember the exact details.

  15. jupes says:

    I was messing around a few months ago and had a looksee at a full moon. By lord, I had forgotten, or perhaps never used it, but you can clearly see craters and can also subtly make out the mounds around them. Pity its the only thing close by that’s worth looking at.

    The craters stand out better on a half moon. They can even be seen clearly with low powered binoculars because of the shadow. No shadows on the full moon.

    Jupiter and Saturn are worth looking at as well.

  16. feelthebern says:

    The data available from South Korea regarding their clusters puts the rest of the world to shame.
    You can see the seating layout from a call centre where there was a cluster.
    Zero chance of Dan or Gladys releasing that kind of detail.

  17. Rex Mango says:

    TE, will go for push airscrew on DH1.

  18. Boambee John says:

    Top Ender

    Pushers?

  19. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    A multi engined Russian bomber, but I’m damned if I can remember the exact details.

    A Russian, twin engined, bi – plane bomber, with the fuselage mounted on the TOP set of wings, and the engines mounted between both sets of wings, below the fuselage. The “Ilya Sikorsky?”

  20. Free Radical says:

    I just can’t bear to see Gladys’s face on TV any more. This woman has no stake in anything in this state or even the country, she’s set for life while the rest wither away.

    Ah. You think she should dress more like a professional. Yes?

  21. Crossie says:

    feelthebern
    #3444383, posted on May 7, 2020 at 10:06 pm
    The data available from South Korea regarding their clusters puts the rest of the world to shame.
    You can see the seating layout from a call centre where there was a cluster.
    Zero chance of Dan or Gladys releasing that kind of detail.

    That’s because Gladys’s motivation is not to learn anything from this situation but to cover the arses of her ministers and bureaucrats.

  22. Knuckle Dragger says:

    Sacked his lawyer, I see:

    ‘The Porsche driver at the centre of the Eastern Freeway crash wants to be freed from prison.
    Richard Pusey, 41, has made an application for bail and will be heard on the matter at the Melbourne Magistrates’ Court on Monday. Pusey has been preparing his bail application for some time.

    ‘A prison source said he has put together a “dossier” on how he is being treated in prison and will use it to try get out. “He is compiling a dossier on all staff who watch and look after him and the conditions he is in at MAP in a bid to get bail on Monday,” the source said.’

    Should be some comedy value right there.

  23. Top Ender says:

    Last one!

    Arms and Armour Quiz 2 – WWI fighters

    1. How many triplane fighters were in production in WWI, and from which manufacturers? Nieuport, Sopwith, Fokker and Curtiss

    2. Why in simple terms was the triplane not worth continuing with? Speed was more important than lift.

    3. What was considered by most fighter pilots to be the best position from which to attack a bomber? Below and behind – under the tail.

    4. What gun configuration was fitted to some WWI fighters to best facilitate this? An MG on the top wing as well as a forward firing MG.

    5. In which fighter did the gunner stand up to fire backwards? Royal Aircraft Factory FE2 aeroplane of 1914.

    6. Which aircrew used parachutes the most in the Great War? Balloonists.

    7. How did von Richthofen commemorate each of his aerial victories? Each was recorded with a small silver cup which were displayed in rows in his quarters.

    8. What aspect of their uniform distinguished the Royal Flying Corps amongst the rest of the khaki-clad world? Their double-breasted tunic.

    9. What was arguably the most unusual engine arrangement of any WWI aircraft? The Zeppelin-Staaken R-type, which had six engines: three propellers: a tractor system in the nose and two pusher nacelle mounts inbetween the wings.

    10. What could be said to be unusual about the education of more than 30 members of the USA squadron, the Lafayette Escadrille?

  24. Crossie says:

    Free Radical
    #3444388, posted on May 7, 2020 at 10:11 pm
    I just can’t bear to see Gladys’s face on TV any more. This woman has no stake in anything in this state or even the country, she’s set for life while the rest wither away.

    Ah. You think she should dress more like a professional. Yes?

    Would you go to a wedding dressed as a derro? That’s why you dress appropriately to your position. When you don’t dress appropriately you insult not only those who appointed you but those who took the pains to dress appropriately to interview you and all those watching who paid taxes that pay your salary.

  25. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    9. What was arguably the most unusual engine arrangement of any WWI aircraft? The Zeppelin-Staaken R-type, which had six engines: three propellers: a tractor system in the nose and two pusher nacelle mounts inbetween the wings.

    Ground crew were prone to much heavy drinking in low dives, while they sorted that one out…

  26. Rex Mango says:

    TE, they only spoke French.

  27. feelthebern says:

    10. What could be said to be unusual about the education of more than 30 members of the USA squadron, the Lafayette Escadrille?

    They were all jailed after bankrolling a revolution because the state didn’t want to pay the debt?

  28. Crossie says:

    Ah. You think she should dress more like a professional. Yes?

    Try that crap in private enterprise and see how long you last there dressed as a bag lady,

  29. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    10. What could be said to be unusual about the education of more than 30 members of the USA squadron, the Lafayette Escadrille?

    They were graduates of the Sorbonne?

  30. Rex Mango says:

    2 Fast 2 Furious a terrific show. Essentially about illegal drag racing. but has subplot about crooked cops etc. When they hit nitrous button, not only do their cars accelerate but they have weird vision impairment where it’s like they are entering hyper speed.

  31. mh says:

    Jim Bridenstine
    @JimBridenstine
    ·
    May 6
    NASA is excited to work with @TomCruise on a film aboard the @Space_Station! We need popular media to inspire a new generation of engineers and scientists to make @NASA’s ambitious plans a reality.

    https://twitter.com/JimBridenstine/status/1257752395750289409?s=20

  32. Tel says:

    … just look at this video and the facial expressions this weirdo pulls during the hearing; Rosenstein, another germ, is compared to strzok.

    https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/APP-092718-Blasey-Ford-009.jpg

    Weird … that familiar little half-smile pops back up.

  33. Top Ender says:

    Close Zulu!

    10. What could be said to be unusual about the education of more than 30 members of the USA squadron, the Lafayette Escadrille? More than 30 had university degrees.

    That’s all folks!

  34. Rex Mango says:

    WDYSIA, the science is easily explained by the smiling photo of Sally Capp the Lord Mayor. She appears to be sub optimal IQ & she might believe that cyclists are the answer to a disease.

  35. Rex Mango says:

    TE, thanks lockdown is so much easier with your quizess & the Roman Bath House Blog.

  36. Tel says:

    Holy crap … they are all possessed by the same evil clown spirit.

    https://impeachobamatoday.files.wordpress.com/2018/07/strzoksmirk3.jpg

  37. Crossie says:

    I would be prepared to accept the current senator numbers per state if we can get rid of state governments. During this crisis they have proven to be completely incompetent and harmful.

  38. Crossie says:

    Tel
    #3444407, posted on May 7, 2020 at 10:30 pm
    Holy crap … they are all possessed by the same evil clown spirit.

    You only noticed that now? It was obvious to most people for about three years.

  39. Rex Mango says:

    Crossie, state governments are what built this country. The federalles are the cancer. Just as GM got rich on back of Chevrolet, Pontiac, Buick, Cadillac & Oldsmobile, we need to revert back to the states. Right about now the different states should be running their own race & trying different approaches to coming out of lockdown & National Cabinet should be given the boot. Let each state try a different approach (WA/SA/NT in the clear) & see what works.

  40. Hay Stockard says:

    Ben Roberts Smith being investigated by a seat warmer whose only claim to fame was being CO of the Sydney University Regiment. All it ever turned out was slackers and snowflakes .
    Fortunately unlike the investigation in War Crimes in the British Army no Afghan will be tempted by the promise of compensation to tell whoppers.
    Look up Shiners Lawyers in the UK and the unhappy experience there.

  41. Hay Stockard says:

    Rex,
    Not letting in plague ships would be a good start.

  42. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    Crossie, state governments are what built this country. The federalles are the cancer.

    The role of the Federal Government should be reduced to foreign policy, defence, trade and immigration. Return the role to levy taxes to the States. Reduce the Senate to six members per State. The mendicant States can go bust, as they please….

  43. Tel says:

    You only noticed that now? It was obvious to most people for about three years.

    Feel free to quickly fill me in on all the other obvious stuff I overlooked recently.

    https://media2.foxnews.com/BrightCove/694940094001/2018/10/21/694940094001_5851547496001_5851547967001-vs.jpg

    There is it again: pursed lips, kind of frozen smirk that looks a bit uncomfortable and unnatural with a hint of superiority and insincerity.

  44. nilk says:

    Sex work is essential. Because getting a root – paid for or otherwise – is a human right. Far canal.

    Australia’s peak sex worker organisation the Scarlet Alliance has warned against police “targeting” sex workers as the impact of the coronavirus lockdown continues to hamper the industry.

    Restrictions on travel and “non-essential” visits have been hitting hard for people like Paige*, who has been a sex worker “on and off” for five years.

    It’s her major source of income, but as a subcontractor, she only gets paid if she gets a booking and for the past couple of months, bookings have for obvious reasons dried up.

    However, Paige told nine.com.au she supported the government’s measures.
    “The less people violating social distancing regulations, the less time it will take to flatten the curve,” she said.

    I have never met a prostitute who spoke like that. Of course, I’ve not met any in years, so things may have changed in the meantime, but seriously.

  45. Crossie says:

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #3444418, posted on May 7, 2020 at 10:47 pm
    Crossie, state governments are what built this country. The federalles are the cancer.

    The role of the Federal Government should be reduced to foreign policy, defence, trade and immigration. Return the role to levy taxes to the States. Reduce the Senate to six members per State. The mendicant States can go bust, as they please….

    This would be just swell if ferderalles didn’t first monster the states and then defer to the states. Which is it then? Is it all to cover each other’s backsides?

  46. Hay Stockard says:

    Wow. Another documentary called Bohemian Rhapsody. I think it’s about that Snafu bloke from “The Pacific.”
    Life is grand during lockdown comrades.

  47. Rex Mango says:

    HS, now that Pell witch hunt over the Roberts-Smith one begins. Anonymous Afghans phoning in via video link using interpreters to destroy the guy, with big pot of money on offer at end.

  48. Crossie says:

    nilk
    #3444420, posted on May 7, 2020 at 10:53 pm
    Sex work is essential. Because getting a root – paid for or otherwise – is a human right. Far canal.

    There is a film clip out there of Dr Fauci being interviewed on a network programmed and being asked about peoplonisin* casual sex via Tinder. He replied that it’s up to you if you want to risk it.

    What horrendous about Fauci and every one of the so-called experts is that it’s not even do as I say not as I do, it’s all situational. This is not science, it’s ideology or politics.

  49. Rex Mango says:

    nilk, if sex workers are out of work & we know that no-one is playing poker machines then that is a social good. We will know sex workers are workers when the currently out of work ones, start offering freebies for like the homeless who are locked up in hotels at the moment.

  50. Rex Mango says:

    The Omega Man on ch74 with Charlton Heston is a weird movie.

  51. Crossie says:

    Rex Mango
    #3444423, posted on May 7, 2020 at 10:57 pm
    HS, now that Pell witch hunt over the Roberts-Smith one begins. Anonymous Afghans phoning in via video link using interpreters to destroy the guy, with big pot of money on offer at end.

    This and other such incidents are likely to taint or destroy defence recruitment. COVID-19 has unmasked all states’ police forces and will taint their recruitment. So what are we likely to end up with? Fascists.

  52. Leigh Lowe says:

    Australia’s peak sex worker organisation the Scarlet Alliance has warned against police “targeting” sex workers 

    Wait!
    What?
    There’s a hookers union?

  53. nilk says:

    Rex I’m dead set against sex work so you won’t get any argument from me. I’ve seen what it can do, and I’m on a mailing list of prohibitionist* radical feminists who post all sorts of interesting information about the sex industry and its effects. A lot of the mailing list members are current and ex sex workers, so they know what they’re talking about.

    *anti-sex work, not just your average hookers. All of it. They’d like it outlawed altogether, but since that’s not realistic they are pushing the Nordic model of criminalising those who pay for the services.

  54. nilk says:

    Leigh the Scarlet Alliance have been around for years. Where have you been??

  55. Steve trickler says:

    A beautiful sound. Lovely throttle control.

    Dave Cufone brings all of the Revs to Summernats 33 in his 358 Cube Nascar Engined Chev Nova known as “NOVAKILL”. Turn the volume up and listen to this Engine scream at 9,400 rpm.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jgCUOiVG5Y

  56. Rex Mango says:

    Crossie, the Roberts-Smith case will just be used by the Human Rights Industry to get more women into the army and in particular the pointy end, thus destroying operational capability as they have been doing for more than fifty years.

  57. So what do they think of *Seeking Arrangement*, what do they think of “cash and prizes” divorces and are they willing to give back their ill-gotten gains?

  58. I’ve never met a hooker…”

    Reconsider that.

    1/5 of Australian female university students are on Seeking Arrangement.

  59. Hay Stockard says:

    Nilk,
    These people. They don’t disclose client lists, do they?
    Asking for a friend.

  60. Rex Mango says:

    This whole coronavirus thing must be testing the sex work industry, because there is no way they can operate. Condoms were cool with AIDS, but not the common cold that kills you, or your grandparents.

  61. Crossie says:

    Rex Mango
    #3444434, posted on May 7, 2020 at 11:09 pm
    Crossie, the Roberts-Smith case will just be used by the Human Rights Industry to get more women into the army and in particular the pointy end, thus destroying operational capability as they have been doing for more than fifty years.

    Then we will simply hide behind the New Zealand shield 😁.

  62. Rex Mango says:

    Crossie, sadly yes and as China starts banging their war drums.

  63. dover_beach says:

    1/5 of Australian female university students are on Seeking Arrangement.

    Really? Quite amazing if true.

  64. Rex Mango says:

    Dover thanks for that new website to investigate, never heard of it up till now.

  65. Zyconoclast says:

    So what are we likely to end up with? Fascists.

    So what we have now is fascists.

    Fixed.

  66. Leigh Lowe says:

    nilk

    #3444432, posted on May 7, 2020 at 11:09 pm

    Leigh the Scarlet Alliance have been around for years. Where have you been??

    Um, well, I’ve been in the Roman Bathhouse with the rest of the revolutionary brothers.

  67. feelthebern says:

    Thanks for working out that kink in my glute Leigh.
    You have magic hands.

  68. Crossie says:

    Legalise Sedition
    #3444436, posted on May 7, 2020 at 11:14 pm
    I’ve never met a hooker…”

    Reconsider that.

    1/5 of Australian female university students are on Seeking Arrangement.

    Ha, ha. Now there’s an industry that’s famous for truth in advertising.

    Second, I work in the tertiary education industry and can confidently say that 99% of the female students don’t give a damn about anyone else’s satisfaction.

  69. Hay Stockard says:

    Thanks for the tip Dot.

  70. Crossie says:

    Zyconoclast
    #3444443, posted on May 7, 2020 at 11:20 pm
    So what are we likely to end up with? Fascists.

    So what we have now is fascists.

    Zyconoclast
    #3444443, posted on May 7, 2020 at 11:20 pm
    So what are we likely to end up with? Fascists.

    So what we have now is fascists.

    Fixed.

    OK, I’ll give you that. Anyone with integrity must be destroyed before they can infect others.
    Fixed.

  71. Leigh Lowe says:

    doverbeach.
    Earlier today someone here jumped to your defence saying that you are not a bullshitter and what a straight up guy you are.
    Look, if 93.1% of people here are confronted with a charge of bullshitting they should consult a lawyer and look for a plea deal.
    You, sir, are in the other 6.9%.

  72. feelthebern says:

    DB, that was me.
    After grigs accused you of posting a bull shit story.

  73. Crossie says:

    Rex Mango
    #3444448, posted on May 7, 2020 at 11:26 pm
    Yeah don’t believe the hype about Seeking Arrangement, this girl is a tramp:

    https://babe.net/2017/05/25/really-like-inside-bizarre-empowering-seeking-arrangement-conference-girls-taught-find-sugar-daddy-2354

    They can enrol and claim student status then drop out before census date and incur no costs. Yeah, not buying it.

  74. feelthebern says:

    But young people are terrible.
    Best to be avoided.

  75. Leigh Lowe says:

    Thanks bern.
    On the money.
    A lot of people here are unashamed hyperbole artists.
    I may or may not be one of those.
    But doverbeach is straight down the line and a great resource.
    Some of the stuff he serves up is amazing.

  76. feelthebern says:

    Never scroll the DB.
    Always worth a read.

  77. Rex Mango says:

    Crossie, can you help me out with the legit postings on Seeking Arrangement & no, have never had any symptoms of yellow fever.

  78. Leigh Lowe says:

    feelthebern

    #3444456, posted on May 7, 2020 at 11:37 pm

    Never scroll the DB.
    Always worth a read

    Absolutely the wrong target for the troll.

  79. Crossie says:

    Rex Mango
    #3444457, posted on May 7, 2020 at 11:40 pm
    Crossie, can you help me out with the legit postings on Seeking Arrangement & no, have never had any symptoms of yellow fever.

    Not an epidemiologist so no idea about yellow fever, merely know that prostitutes claiming to be students are not students.

  80. Rex Mango says:

    Not sure about this one, could be Roman Bath House Member:

    https://hornet.com/stories/sugar-baby-summit/

  81. Infidel Tiger King says:

    A lot of people here are unashamed hyperbole artists

    Truth. When I get back from curing cancer in African Elephants, we should all meet up.

  82. JC says:

    Things are on the up and up in the US. Only 3.1 jobless claims this week. Market’s green. What could possibly be wrong?

  83. Knuckle Dragger #3444353, posted on May 7, 2020 at 9:49 pm
    FMD.
    Go to the secret site they said.
    It will be fun they said.
    We won’t lock you in, they said.
    You guys owe me a toga.

    Huh? You don’t need a toga in there. (well that’s what I’ve heard)

  84. Leigh Lowe says:

    Infidel Tiger King

    #3444461, posted on May 7, 2020 at 11:46 pm

    A lot of people here are unashamed hyperbole artists

    Truth. When I get back from curing cancer in African Elephants, we should all meet up.

    Yeah.
    Happy with that.
    No rosé but.
    And put the jumbo cancer cure on hold.
    We need the new uniform design sorted asap.

  85. Rex Mango says:

    Just found an ad for Seeking Arrangement:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aVFlOGAJY8

  86. Infidel Tiger King says:

    We need the new uniform design sorted asap.

    Is anyone allergic to leather?

  87. Mitch M. says:

    Truth. When I get back from curing cancer in African Elephants, we should all meet up.

    Too easy …
    Cancer Rarely Strikes Elephants. New Clues Suggest Why.
    https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2018/08/news-cancer-elephants-genes-dna-new-research/

  88. Cold-Hands says:

    So what we have now is fascists.

    Not just here. This was in Canada.

    Star Wars Day promotion goes awry after LPS arrests employee in stormtrooper costume

    LETHBRIDGE, AB –
    May the fourth is widely known among fans of the sci-fi series as Star Wars Day, and thus, a local business themed around the franchise wanted to put on a promotion to celebrate it.

    Coco Vanilla Galactic Cantina Owner Bradley Whalen told LNN that it very quickly went off the rails and put one of his employees in serious danger.

    “We had music playing in the parking lot, we had one of our staff dress up as a stormtrooper kind of waving to people walking up and down the road, we had people stopping by and getting pictures with the stormtrooper, we put a couple of promotions on in the restaurant to entice people to come.”

    The female employee arrived for work at 10:00 am on Monday, May 4, and went out in full costume around 20 minutes later.

    He believes that some members of the public must have seen her brandishing a plastic toy blaster believing it was a real gun and phoned police. Lethbridge Police Service (LPS) Inspector Jason Walper says they got two 911 calls regarding a firearms complaint near the business on 13 Street North.

    At approximately 11:20 am, three police cruisers arrived and a truck followed shortly after.

    In the video, Whalen came outside after hearing the officers shouting at the employee. He can be heard telling the officers that the girl in the costume only has a toy gun.The officers tell Whelan to get back in his building.

    “Police officers had guns drawn, pointed at my employee. They were yelling at her to put the gun down so she threw the plastic gun on the ground. At that point in time when I came out, she was on her knees kneeling down on the ground. The police had already checked and seen that the gun was plastic so they already knew that there wasn’t an issue or a risk there.”

    […]

    After she got on her knees, Walper adds that the officers then “pushed the individual down to the ground” and put her into handcuffs.

    As a result of being pushed to the ground, the employee had a bloodied nose. Neither Whalen nor Walper could confirm if she had suffered any other injuries. The employee could be heard crying out on the video and there were blood stains on the concrete.

  89. Rex Mango says:

    More gripping Seeking Arrangement video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP9gQ8IYVOk

  90. Leigh Lowe says:

    Infidel Tiger King

    #3444467, posted on May 7, 2020 at 11:58 pm

    We need the new uniform design sorted asap.

    Is anyone allergic to leather?

    We have a vinyl solution.
    Ours will be the first hypoallergenic revolution with discounts for over-55’s.

  91. dover_beach says:

    Fellas, why use a lawyer when you call on an albino?

  92. Leigh Lowe says:

    dover_beach

    #3444474, posted on May 8, 2020 at 12:22 am

    Fellas, why use a lawyer when you call on an albino?

    Well, um … why not?
    Please elaborate.

  93. Hay Stockard says:

    Watching Bohemian Rhapsody has made me ambivalent about wearing leather.

  94. C.L. says:

    Have been catching up with “redactions” news tonight.
    What an infamous disgrace for a Royal Commission to say, ‘hey – we have no evidence but this is what we’re “satisfied” is true.’

    And what did Comensoli do? That’s right: took the opportunity to apologise again. A total pansy.
    I am sick and tired of what the bishops have done to the Church, its liturgy, its culture, its schools…

  95. jupes says:

    Wow. Another documentary called Bohemian Rhapsody. I think it’s about that Snafu bloke from “The Pacific.”

    Rami Malek was brilliant in The Pacific.

  96. Top Ender says:

    Nice work if you can get it!

    San Francisco faces backlash as it delivers alcohol, tobacco and medical marijuana to 43 homeless addicts who have tested positive for coronavirus and are recovering in city-leased hotels so they do not leave to hunt for a fix and spread the virus

    San Francisco officials on Wednesday confirmed they are providing items to help addicts manage nicotine, opioid and alcohol cravings while in isolation
    There are about 270 people, mostly homeless, staying in city-leased hotel rooms to recover from COVID-19 or to wait out possible exposure to the virus
    The delivery efforts are aimed at keeping recovering people from going out and possibly infecting others
    The city insisted that the items are paid for by private donations

    Link

  97. Hay Stockard says:

    Jupes,
    He was brilliant in Bohemian Rhapsody.

  98. Hay Stockard says:

    Early night. Have an appointment tomorrow morning.
    Play nice and be civil. Or not. Suit yourselves.

  99. dover_beach says:

    And what did Comensoli do? That’s right: took the opportunity to apologise again. A total pansy.
    I am sick and tired of what the bishops have done to the Church, its liturgy, its culture, its schools…

    It’s pathetic. It’s simply cowardice. He could have simply said that he was surprised by the RC’s finding simply because it was based on no evidence at all. Nothing presented at the finding could substantiate it. In fact, there was testimony by several consultors that Mulkearns never made an such declaration. But, apparently, we are to believe, with no evidence at all, that Pell was informed of this in his first year in Ballarat East, while still a junior priest. What an absurd and disgraceful abuse of power by the RC.

  100. Mark A says:

    Hay Stockard
    #3444489, posted on May 8, 2020 at 12:55 am

    Early night. Have an appointment tomorrow morning.

    Play nice and be civil. Or not. Suit yourselves.

    I hardly ever use foul language but this play nice thing is having a reverse effect on me.
    Feel like swearing.

  101. Mark A says:

    She is enjoying herself by the looks of it, only thing missing is a glass of bubbly, unless it’s there out of sight.

  102. C.L. says:

    Yes, the Royal Commission lied – because the mob outside wanted Pell and nothing presented in evidence warranted handing him over. So they made up some claims to placate the haters and then redacted it because they knew it was non-justiciable horseshit.

  103. Mark A says:

    Where is this?
    All we know (suspect) it’s an abandoned Soviet train somewhere, from the time of WWII or could be before.

    Poland or Belorussia?

  104. feelthebern says:

    Rami Malek needs to give his oscar to Brad Cooper.

  105. feelthebern says:

    Mark there’s a couple of youtube channels of soviet shit just left to rot.

  106. jupes says:

    He was brilliant in Bohemian Rhapsody.

    Indeed he was. As an actor who can convincingly play a hard-arse marine and an idiosyncratic singer, I would say he is an actor at the very top of his craft.

    Rami Malek needs to give his oscar to Brad Cooper.

    Why?

    This is interesting, because Cooper gave a convincing performances as a real warrior (American Sniper) and a fictional singer (A Star is Born), while Malek gave convincing performances as a fictional warrior (the Pacific) and a real singer (Bohemian Rhapsody).

    My darling wife has seen A Star is born and says that Brad Cooper gives a great performance but Rami Malek was better as Freddy Mercury. I haven’t seen A Star is Born but I’ve seen the other three. My favourite to watch was Malek in the Pacific but his performance in Bohemian Rhapsody was just superb. You could believe he actually was Freddy.

    He deserved the Oscar.

  107. JC says:

    The first half of A Star is Born is possibly the best part of a movie I’ve ever seen. Other people have commented on this.

    Malek has done that weird serious about an IT geek that is totally weird. It’s off the planet weird.

  108. jupes says:

    The first half of A Star is Born is possibly the best part of a movie I’ve ever seen.

    Seriously? Better than when the Zulus showed themselves at the top of the mountain on Zulu, or the beginning of any Dirty Harry movie?

    Malek has done that weird serious about an IT geek that is totally weird. It’s off the planet weird.

    Haven’t seen it, however the fact he can play another totally different character doesn’t make him a bad actor.

  109. Tom says:

    Christian Adams (London Evening Standard).

  110. Tom says:

    Peter Brookes (London Times).

  111. Tom says:

    Bob Moran (London Daily Telegraph).

  112. MemoryFault says:

    Thanks again, Tom.

  113. feelthebern says:

    Rami Malek lip synced.
    Brad Cooper sang.

    So yes, Rami Malek needs to give his oscar to Brad Cooper.

  114. feelthebern says:

    DOJ drops case against Flynn.

  115. jupes says:

    Rami Malek lip synced.
    Brad Cooper sang.

    So yes, Rami Malek needs to give his oscar to Brad Cooper.

    Dunno if you realise ftb but the oscar is for acting not singing.

  116. Megan says:

    👍🤗 Tom!

  117. Carpe Jugulum says:

    The Brookes and Ramirez toons were quite good

  118. bespoke says:

    My youngest has a mate in the banking industry and he says they are reconsidering outsourcing. Apparently Bangladesh/ Bangalore (sic) don’t have the infrastructure to work from home.

    Also my son has signed up to do a masters in Business with Open University. Any negatives/tips?

  119. Knuckle Dragger says:

    One week, and we can go to the pub.

  120. Struth says:

    Good Moaning
    I have often turned to the Commonwealth of Australia’s constitution as it is the highest Law of the land.
    It cannot be changed without referendum and, is of course, meant to be followed by all in a rule of Law country.

    I am wondering, (when it is crystal clear), that when both the Commonwealth and the State governments are not following it, why no journalist is calling them out on it.
    Well, we all know why they are not, so maybe it’s time, in our new world order that we find a way to hold our recently non accountable overlords to account.

    Let’s have a brief look at how the power of decision making is supposed to occur, and what is happening.
    Firstly we must understand sect 109 of the constitution.
    That is the Australian Constitution that was banned from being taught in schools.
    Yes we have one.

    Section 109 of the Constitution of Australia provides that: When a law of a State is inconsistent with a law of the Commonwealth, the latter shall prevail, and the former shall, to the extent of the inconsistency, be invalid.

    So this means it over rides state laws that conflict with it.

    Hmmm.

    So let’s take our state border closures , the excuse being our state government’s quarantining.
    At the Qld border you will be allowed straight through and into QLD if you have QLD number plates on the car, or if you are driving a truck, without being stopped and checked.
    However, if you do not live in QLD, you are not allowed in.
    That is obviously not a quarantine procedure, it’s add hoc discrimination that has no quarantine benefit whatsoever.
    Idiotic waste of taxpayers money for no benefit?
    Why yes, yes it is.
    Harassment of Australian citizens and a tyrannical affront to the free movement of citizens for no effective reason?

    Why yes, yes it is.

    Would you agree to it if they stopped all people from crossing the borders and really looked into people’s movements?
    For example, had a Queenslander just come off a cruise ship in Sydney?
    Actual Quarantining measures?

    Well if you said yes, you would be still supporting a criminal outfit, but the crime would be less severe.

    Let’s check out sect 117 of the constitution.

    COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA CONSTITUTION ACT – SECT 117

    A subject of the Queen, resident in any State, shall not be subject in any other State to any disability or discrimination which would not be equally applicable to him if he were a subject of the Queen resident in such other State.

    A state government cannot discriminate against citizens of this nation based on their residency within the nation.
    People often argue this, saying “but states all have different laws!”
    Yes they do, but they apply equally to the visitor as to the resident of the state.
    A state speed limit sign will never say 100kph for QLDers but visitors from interstate 80kph.
    It is illegal for them to do it and they would be criminals, breaking the law the second they tried to introduce it.
    Yet this is exactly what they are doing on our state borders regarding entry.
    It is criminal activity, and ignorance of the Law is no excuse, especially when most of our pollies are ex Lawyers.

    But does it get worse?
    Yes, why yes it does.

    When Australia became a nation on the 1st of January 1901, the constitution divided up the responsibilities of governments, state and Federal.

    For example, no state can raise it’s own military forces, that is a Federal government responsibility.

    Oh No.

    So is quarantine.
    What is your state government doing operating quarantine activities?
    It’s very specific, and remember sect 109.
    Well here is section 51(ix)

    Section 51 of the Constitution provides that the Commonwealth can pass laws for the peace, order and good government of the Commonwealth with respect to (IX) quarantine.

    Section 61 backs it up.

    On a date or dates to be proclaimed by the Governor‑General after the establishment of the Commonwealth the following departments of the public service in each State shall become transferred to the Commonwealth:

    Posts, telegraphs, and telephones;

    Naval and military defence;

    Lighthouses, lightships, beacons, and buoys;

    Quarantine.

    But the departments of customs and of excise in each State shall become transferred to the Commonwealth on its establishment.[2][4]

    Whether you or I believe States should be quarantining is irrelevant, it is against the law for state governments to do so.
    And as soon as these power drunk traitors put themselves above the rule of law, it all starts to fall apart.
    And we get the confusion, misery, tyranny and death we are now seeing.

    Does it get worse.
    Why yes, yes it does.

    Laws cannot be made by decree of an unconstitutional parliament.
    This COAG plus NZ PM or whoever else gets an invite to slurp drunkenly on power at the National cabinet, cannot make Laws.

    Remember, there is no Prime Minister position in our Constitution.
    He is just the head spokesman for his political party and as a minister gets to “advise” the executive Government.

    The PM and the Premiers need to get back in their parliaments and start representing and debating and passing actual law as it is supposed to be done by law.

    When it comes to Quarantine matters, the new quarantine bills are supposed to be debated in parliament and when passed , sent to the Governor General to be assessed and made Law.
    In the event of a “state of emergency” as seems to be the call here, it is up to the ministers and executive government to advice the governor general who then makes the call.

    This is what is meant to happen by law.
    Instead we are being ruled by the threat of violence and fines, of being arrested, our freedoms stolen and all by a group of criminals operating outside the rule of law.
    Scott Morrison, and all the members of the National cabinet need to be arrested and thrown behind bars.
    Make no mistake, they are criminals.

  121. Knuckle Dragger says:

    Someone, overnight:

    ‘I’ve never met a hooker.’

    Don’t be so sure. Unlike vegans and people that do crossfit, it’s almost never the first thing they say to you.

    On a not-really-but-sorta-related topic, that Seeking Arrangement stuff was hilarious, sad and could be said by some to be typical all at the same time.

  122. pete m says:

    Flynn should be put in charge of FBI.

    Come meet the new boss and explain yourself then “YOU’RE FIRED!!!”

  123. Knuckle Dragger says:

    Serious question struth.

    Who in the field of Commonwealth and constitutional law have you written to challenge the current situation, or to ask for an explanation on how the Constitution is being interpreted.

    Surely there’s enough anti-establishment tertiary and/or law reform institutions with the gravitas to take it on, or at least give you a considered response.

    Or is it just the local MPs you’ve written to, or left it to social media campaigns?

    Like I said. Serious question.

  124. caveman says:

    One week, and we can go to the pub.

    The models, say no.

  125. Knuckle Dragger says:

    I don’t know if Crossie’s overnight comment was meant to be a knee-slapper, but it was.

    ‘I work in the tertiary education industry and can confidently say that 99% of the female students don’t give a damn about anyone else’s satisfaction.’

    Now I know where all those Keno machine operators were trained.

  126. Knuckle Dragger says:

    ‘The models, say no.’

    I, along with everyone else in the NT say the models can go fuck themselves.

    15 May. It’s on, people.

  127. calli says:

    What’s all this about a bath house? Do I need to order in extra Omo?

  128. Knuckle Dragger says:

    Oh, okay. This is what I said, forever on teh webs:

    ‘On a not-really-but-sorta-related topic, that Seeking Arrangement stuff was hilarious, sad and could be said by some to be typical all at the same time.’

    In the interests of balance, I must add a quote from the article overnight on the Seeking Arrangement phenomenon.

    ‘Anton, one of the only straight male sugar babies I’ve ever met, explains how he sees older women for a maximum three dates before completely ghosting them:

    “If they’re fat, you just have to focus on something else,” he explains helpfully.’

    This should pretty much see the morning out.

  129. Top Ender says:

    COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA CONSTITUTION ACT – SECT 117

    A subject of the Queen, resident in any State, shall not be subject in any other State to any disability or discrimination which would not be equally applicable to him if he were a subject of the Queen resident in such other State.

    Here in the territory we have a “floor tax” on alcohol, making it $1.30 a drink minimum. This is to stop “certain people” buying cheap grog.

    If you try to buy in a dozen bottles of wine from say, Dan Murphy, the retailer complies and adds the tax.

    Sounds like a breach of the Constitution to me.

    Needs someone with a lot of time on their hands to take it further.

  130. will says:

    Knuckle Dragger
    #3444544, posted on May 8, 2020 at 6:57 am
    Someone, overnight:

    ‘I’ve never met a hooker.’

    Don’t be so sure. Unlike vegans and people that do crossfit, it’s almost never the first thing they say to you.

    Maybe.

    I have had one woman tell me, on meeting, that she was an exotic dancer.

    Oh

  131. bespoke says:

    Omo

    Vague memory from my single days, that’s washing powder right?

    😎

  132. 1735099 says:

    Very little of this has made the local media until now.

    The ex military officer deserves a medal.

    This is yet another example of self radicalisation through on-line forums.

    Maybe there are lessons for some Catallaxy posters given recent urgings by Struth and others?

  133. C.L.,

    Don’t read the Guardian.

    Looks like another Wilson frame up of GP.

    Based on opinion of mind reading.

  134. Struth says:

    Serious question struth.

    Who in the field of Commonwealth and constitutional law have you written to challenge the current situation, or to ask for an explanation on how the Constitution is being interpreted.

    Surely there’s enough anti-establishment tertiary and/or law reform institutions with the gravitas to take it on, or at least give you a considered response.

    Or is it just the local MPs you’ve written to, or left it to social media campaigns?

    Like I said. Serious question.

    Serious answer.

    Yes I have written to my local member, and various ministers, all sorts of others like TV shows and even just nobodies like Cory Bernardi and others.
    Put it on facebook, and over at the other site.
    I have not been able to find one org that wants to go near it, true.
    Most are too left wing.
    There’s a few around who analyse it like me, just knock around types who read it as it is written and believe it is straight forward enough not to need “interpreting” by a lawyer with an incentive to muddy the waters.
    All constitutions are meant to be read by the common man for just this type of circumstance.
    I am under no illusion that they are ignoring the constitution, but it is still valid to point out where they are breaking the law and that they are indeed criminals.
    The wording is simple and clear.
    And it is written in a style for the common man to yield it.

  135. Mater says:

    Omo

    One of the washing powder boxes that (legend has it) appears sporadically in the window of certain ‘Married Quarters’ as an indication of availability.

    OMO – Old Man’s Out.
    FAB – Fucking Arsehole’s Back

  136. My urging is for non violent resistance until the body snatchers in the ALP/GRN/LNP are shamed into following the constitution and giving us back our civil liberties and prosperity.

  137. Struth says:

    No it’s not TE, because if I came to Darwin and showed my QLD licence to the Dan Murphy’s cashier, I’d get charged the same.
    Sect 117 is about how you are treated based on where you live in the commonwealth.

  138. thefrollickingmole says:

    Does anyone ever fret that by not clicking on a wang link headlined with “this is so right” or some similar vague crap they might miss something Good?

    No?
    Me neither.

  139. Mater says:

    You know, Bob, I know your memory is terrible, but I demonstrated to you, not but a couple of days ago, that your (and your father’s) beloved Labor Party, was founded on racist policies.

    At its inaugural Federal Interstate Conference in 1900, the Labor Party laid down the following three provisions as the “General Legislation” section of it’s party platform:

    (1) Electoral Reforms, providing for one adult, one vote;
    (2) Total Exclusion of Coloured or other undesirable races; and
    (3) The granting of old age pensions.

    Enough with the ‘Racist = Right-Wing’ BS.

  140. Shy Ted says:

    Lovely little movie for the housebound on SBS32 in a couple of minutes – 0745, Waking Ned.

  141. Boambee John says:

    C.L.
    #3444493, posted on May 8, 2020 at 1:11 am
    Yes, the Royal Commission lied – because the mob outside wanted Pell and nothing presented in evidence warranted handing him over. So they made up some claims to placate the haters and then redacted it because they knew it was non-justiciable horseshit.

    Did the Commissioner call for a bowl of water and a hand towel after approving that section of the draft?

  142. Knuckle Dragger says:

    ‘All constitutions are meant to be read by the common man for just this type of circumstance.’

    I’d seriously argue the opposite. Nuances in legislation, whether State, Federal or Constitutional make them almost incomprehensible. And the older they get, they more likely it is that the application of common law overlaying it changes not its meaning, but how it is applied.

    Example.

    Every single State and Federal Drugs Are Bad Act says that that if you are pinched in possession of X amount of drug Z, X amount is considered large enough to not be for personal use and that therefore you are in possession of that amount for on-selling it.

    Therefore, according to the legislation if you are caught in possession of X amount, being over the benchmark they set, you are not only guilty of possession of that drug but also of trafficking that drug. BUT:

    Common law, in the form of countless decisions over time says that regardless of the legislation, in order to be properly found guilty of trafficking drug Z you must not only have X amount or more in your possession, but you must also be in possession of what they call indicia of supply. This is lots of little ziplock bags, tiny digital scales, burner phones with incriminating shit on them, ledgers with ‘made $5K selling crystal to Suzie’ and so on in them. Without that, a trafficking charge won’t get up.

    So you can read the legislation, and on face value it says one thing, but its application in the face of common law may very well result in another outcome. Hence my question on who you’ve asked, and you probably won’t get the answer you’re after from FB. Or Bernardi, for that matter.

  143. mh says:

    Tom
    #3444510, posted on May 8, 2020 at 4:10 am
    Christian Adams (London Evening Standard).

    The UK media still lionising the NHS.

    Sad.

  144. Leigh Lowe says:

    We strike at dawn!!!

  145. Leigh Lowe says:

    Oh, shit!
    Maybe tomorrow then.

  146. Knuckle Dragger says:

    Oh. Forgot the disclaimer:

    I did Legal Studies in Year 11 in 1986. Can’t remember the teacher’s name but she reminds me today of Nigella. Probably a fat old cat lady now, but just edging into her prime then.

    I got a B.

  147. 1735099 says:

    Enough with the ‘Racist = Right-Wing’ BS.

    Only Mater could link a political platform, over 120 years out of date, with current radical activity.
    Remind me – what were the immigration policies of the Australian Protectionist Party at the time?
    And where did I claim that these individuals are “racist”?
    They’re fruit cakes, like so many of the far Right who hide on anonymous on-line forums, present company excepted, of course.

  148. Knuckle Dragger says:

    Another serious legal question.

    Do our Justices, and particularly those in the Vicco Court of Appeal sit around on their days off in their fave restaurants in Mansfield, and while discussing current events and issues of the day over a cognac, say things like:

    ‘I don’t want to appear judgmental, but…’
    ‘Not judging, just sayin’…..’
    ‘I’m not here to judge people…’

  149. Snoopy says:

    This is really gross.

    Spoiler alert: RBG

  150. Struth says:

    All constitutions are meant to be read by the common man for just this type of circumstance.’

    I’d seriously argue the opposite. Nuances in legislation, whether State, Federal or Constitutional make them almost incomprehensible. And the older they get, they more likely it is that the application of common law overlaying it changes not its meaning, but how it is applied.

    Example.

    Well let me put it better.

    When they are originally written, ours and the American one is very straight forward.

    However, after a hundred years of amendments and court case determinations that have no actual standing as how a simple law should be interpreted, are in fact used by the corrupt human filth which is the judiciary to confuse and obfuscate the basic, simple Law, yes all the added on bullshit is complicated as it is meant to be.
    But our constitution cannot be changed without referendum, so if the simple law hasn’t changed it’s still the highest law of the land and supposed to be followed.

  151. Shy Ted says:

    It had to happen. Well, it’s only a matter of time before it does.

  152. mh says:

    “Laws are spider webs through which the big flies pass and the little ones get caught.”

  153. Mater says:

    And where did I claim that these individuals are “racist”?

    Do you even read the shit you link to?

  154. Knuckle Dragger says:

    ‘like so many of the far Right who hide on anonymous on-line forums’

    And yet, repeatedly over time:

    ‘Stop being binary.’

    Liability Bob, I must inform you that I am lodging a former protest at that remark. I was formally a pro bono advocate and can advise that you’re in a lot of trouble, bub.

  155. Nick says:

    I don’t want to appear judgmental, but…’
    ‘Not judging, just sayin’…..’
    ‘I’m not here to judge people…’

    Your view is implausible

  156. Mater says:

    Only Mater could link a political platform, over 120 years out of date, with current radical activity.

    Ok. Give me the date that they publicly renounced the line:

    Total Exclusion of Coloured or other undesirable races

    First tip: You’ll be hard pressed to find it.
    Second tip: If you do, it won’t be “120 years” ago.

  157. 1735099 says:

    Do you even read the shit you link to?

    Always.
    But obviously you don’t.
    I’ll tell you something for nothing.
    I don’t necessarily agree with everything I link to.
    This is a forum.
    That means (amongst other things) ideas are shared, examined and discussed.
    Instead of responding with ad hom abuse, read the links, consider the conceptual (rather than the ideological) content, and come to your own conclusions.
    It would break a lifetime of bad habits, I know, but you might find it useful.

  158. Knuckle Dragger says:

    ‘Your view is implausible’

    Stop judging me.

  159. feelthebern says:

    The finest cuts are getting turned into beef paddies.

    https://thecounter.org/beef-producers-grinding-steaks-ground-beef-coronavirus-covid-19-usda/

    That said, US labelling of meat product is a joke.

  160. Mother Lode says:

    Does anyone ever fret that by not clicking on a wang link headlined with “this is so right” or some similar vague crap they might miss something Good?

    It is one of the constants in this universe that if you click on one of his links and look at the text it will actually say the opposite of what he claims.

  161. Knuckle Dragger says:

    ‘I’ll tell you something for nothing.
    I don’t necessarily agree with everything I link to.’

    Jeez. Not even trying. Low energy, Old Yeller. Translated:

    ‘I’ve been caught out so many times by posting random things I think support my argument but turn out to do the exact opposite, I’ve decided to tell people I’m playing Old Man on the Mountain, throwing ideas into the marketplace every time I’m busted from now on.’

  162. Nick says:

    Catching up on last night’s smoko,
    Yes, apparently a huge number of female Uni students are on the game. There must be a lot of supply out there with every second ‘massage’ establishment and places subtly named ‘169’ abounding. Sinc or Kate’s should do paper on it looking at it from a demand side perhaps and how price doesn’t seem to be influenced by supply. A Giffen good.

    I couldn’t look at Bradley Cooper in a start is born without asking myself where the rest of the Wolfpack were.
    What was good about Bohemian Rhapsody was it was a film the critics hated but the punters loved. They produced a film that was entertaining. Watch Hollywood do a modern re do of the film with an all female cast. I’m sure it will work.

  163. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    The finest cuts are getting turned into beef paddies.

    Logical really.
    People stuck at home but allowed out to get food.
    So they go get tai kwai.
    Maccas and Wendy’s sell them burgers.
    So many burgers they ran out of mincemeat!

    Wendy’s locations run out of burgers as meat shortages hit consumers (6 May)

    Not helped by the bat bug infections at packing plants…and the steadfast and mysterious reluctance of ordinary Americans to embrace their inner vegan for the planet.

  164. 1735099 says:

    First tip: You’ll be hard pressed to find it.
    Second tip: If you do, it won’t be “120 years” ago.

    If your point is that the White Australia Policy was entirely the property of the Labor Party, you’re simply wrong.
    The policy was bi-partisan for decades.
    It was removed formally close to 50 years ago, as I recall, by Whitlam in 1973.
    That was followed by the Racial Discrimination Act, another Whitlam government initiative in 1975.
    Here’s a quote from Bob Menzies in conversation on radio 2UE’s 1955 –

    I don’t want to see reproduced in Australia the kind of problem they have in South Africa or in America or increasingly in Great Britain. I think it’s been a very good policy and it’s been of great value to us and most of the criticism of it that I’ve ever heard doesn’t come from these oriental countries it comes from wandering Australians.

    And the person who drafted the original policy in 1901 was Alfred Deakin.
    As far as I know, he wasn’t a member of the Labor Party.

  165. Nick says:

    All that cheap, high quality meat. I guess most of us won’t be succumbing to veganism any time soon then.

  166. Eyrie says:

    “That said, US labelling of meat product is a joke.”
    Tried to buy Australian bacon recently? They tell you how much Australian content but not where the most of it came from.
    Our food labelling laws are a sick joke.

  167. Farmer Gez says:

    This is a forum.
    That means (amongst other things) ideas are shared, examined and discussed.

    Righto then Numbers.
    I asked you yesterday whether you thought Mulkearns was an honest man, insofar as you believe the commissioners findings that Pell lied and Mulkearns told him about Ridsdale.

  168. pete m says:

    KD legislation overrides common law.

  169. Knuckle Dragger says:

    All female casts.

    They keep doing it, hoping it will work this time because all the other times the concept’s crashed and burned the people in charge weren’t doing it right.

    Sounds familiar, somehow.

  170. Eyrie says:

    I know the risk is low but why increase it? Yesterday at Woolies while doing the shopping, I had to dodge around two stupid women gasbagging, entrenched in the fruit and vege section. Stupid women couldn’t take it out into the sunshine.

  171. dover_beach says:

    We strike at dawn!!!

    Oh, shit!
    Maybe tomorrow then.

    LOL. Not quite Tora! Tora! Tora!

  172. feelthebern says:

    Our food labelling laws are a sick joke.

    I agree.
    The China have regarding imports are the gold standard.
    Country of Origin regulations.
    Chain of Responsibility regulations.

  173. Eyrie says:

    I see numbers is highlighting just some of the immense damage done by Whitlam.

  174. Nick says:

    LOL. Not quite Tora! Tora! Tora!

    More terry toweling than tora I’m afraid

  175. Nick says:

    Oh

    The celebrity chef Pete Evans has come under fresh criticism for promoting the coronavirus views of David Icke, the British conspiracy theorist previously accused of Holo Caust denial and barred from entering Australia.

  176. notafan says:

    States have taxation rights*

    Cigarettes and fuel used to be much cheaper in QLD iirc because of differences in state taxes.

    *Not a lawyer of any kind.

  177. Knuckle Dragger says:

    ‘KD legislation overrides common law.’

    Of course it’s supposed to pete. Legislation, voice of the elected people trumps judge made law and all that.

    But that doesn’t explain the example I used, which very definitely occurs apparently and allegedly. Judges will still interpret legislation to suit the circumstance. Meanings of phrases and all that stuff is entrenched by judicial interpretation.

    My expertise in Constitutional law extends to watching The Castle, which is why I asked struth who he’s appealed to in relation to his claims.

  178. Infidel Tiger King says:

    If you were a father, what would make you sadder? Your child going to university or becoming a prostitute?

    Tough call.

  179. mh says:

    UK Tele

    It began with an emailed offer of help from a T-shirt salesman in Turkey who promised that he could help solve the UK’s worsening personal protective equipment (PPE) crisis.

    Little more than three weeks later, a Royal Air Force plane was pictured waiting on the tarmac at an airport in Istanbul as ministers were accused of presiding over a farce.

    And finally – as The Telegraph revealed on Wednesday – the saga ended in catastrophe. On arrival in the UK, thousands of hospital gowns were discovered to be “useless” and now lie in a warehouse near Heathrow. Around 170,000 more remain in Turkey after officials blocked their delivery over safety fears...

  180. notafan says:

    Oh dear I forgot the regulation summer uniform headwear was terry towelling hats, lemon for preference.

    Say what you like powder blue and lemon go great together and if you prefer the natty shorts option you can wear lemon walk socks AND a lemon terry towelling hat.

    Very smart.

  181. Geriatric Mayfly says:

    We strike at dawn!!!

    You haven’t even decided who is going to ride the back of the Toyota ute, on the triumphal entry into subjugated territory.

  182. Nick says:

    In some ways, life for Mem Fox under coronavirus is not terribly different from life before the pandemic. It’s largely “same, same”, the children’s author says. “But there is one difference, and that’s terror.”

    She was sick last year, in hospital for eight days with paraflu. She was too weak to read. She couldn’t hold a book. Hospital staff would be kitted out in PPE when treating her, and visitors needed to keep their distance. If she took a phone call from a friend, she would need three hours to recover. She just couldn’t breathe.

    There is an article on Mem Fox in the Guradian. No mention at all about her peterfile husband. Strange they never once asked her what she knew.

  183. Knuckle Dragger says:

    ‘Cigarettes and fuel used to be much cheaper in QLD iirc because of differences in state taxes.’

    There was a time when ne’er-do-wells on the lam from places like Vicco almost invariably ended up in Queensland before being caught again because they’re hopeless nongs incapable of keeping out of the spotlight in public. Allegedly the Vic detectives loved it because they’d go up for the extradition and get on the soup in Brisvegas for the weekend while relevant paperwork went through.

    When questioned as to why QLD was their hidey hole of choice, the crooks involved would (apparently) always say ‘the smokes were cheaper’.

  184. 1735099 says:

    I asked you yesterday whether you thought Mulkearns was an honest man, insofar as you believe the commissioners findings that Pell lied and Mulkearns told him about Ridsdale.

    I would have no idea.
    The RC would have a much better idea than I would about those matters, so I will leave those conclusions to them.

  185. Nick says:

    Very smart.

    In a subtle act of subterfuge, all communication will be conducted by a transistor radio to be placed next to one’s ear. To all and sundry it will sound like 3UZ. Our masterful Q section has our kitbag resembling a Qantas cabin bag circa 1975. There is nothing they can’t do.

  186. thefrollickingmole says:

    Little more on that shooting of the bloke jogging yesterday by the 2 idiots in a ute.

    The reasons for not arresting have a slight cause, but I think the outside prosecutor is dropping the ball.

    Heres the reasons they havent been put in the slammer.
    Gregory is one of the 2 blokes involved

    Two prosecutors have recused themselves, citing professional connections to Gregory McMichael. Documents and state records show the elder McMichael is a former police detective and district attorney investigator in Glynn county.

    An outside prosecutor in charge of the case said he wants a grand jury to decide whether criminal charges are warranted. But that will not happen until at least mid-June, since Georgia courts remain largely closed because of the coronavirus.

    The case stinks though, ex cop not being arrested after a shooting like that doesnt look right.

  187. Infidel Tiger King says:

    We have a vinyl solution.

    The Vinyl Solution would have been the greatest name for a record shop possible.

  188. Knuckle Dragger says:

    ‘You haven’t even decided who is going to ride the back of the Toyota ute, on the triumphal entry into subjugated territory.’

    We’re using technicals now? Outstanding.

  189. Nick says:

    Don’t say a word, but I’m going to get one Cat in as a guest speaker on how to talk to the opposite sex. It’s working title is ‘has anyone heard from/hellloo lovely lady’. If we can keep the chaos awake long enough, it will be a morale booster.

  190. feelthebern says:

    The RC would have a much better idea than I would about those matters, so I will leave those conclusions to them.

    Yep.
    The architect of turning regional VIC into pedo phile central is a honest man.
    Let’s get the priorities right people.

  191. Farmer Gez says:

    Nice cop out Numbers.
    The whole basis of the Commissioners findings against Pell, in regard to Ridsdale, relies solely on the honesty of Mulkearns to the consultors.

    Funny thing that you come to an open forum with a closed mind.

  192. Knuckle Dragger says:

    Mulkearns was a creepy, slimy old fuck, and half a midget as well.

    Got completely the wrong vibe from the bloke – but there are nine year olds you pick on, and nine year olds you don’t.

    The shit he got pinged for (and all the other stuff he dodged) doesn’t surprise me one little bit.

  193. Nick says:

    Lol

    Robert De Niro has said he would be keen to play New York state governor Andrew Cuomo in a future movie about the coronavirus epidemic, as the actor made another blistering attack on Donald Trump.

    Appearing on The Late Show with Stephen Colbert, De Niro expressed his admiration for Cuomo, saying: “He’s doing what a president should do.” He added: “I could see [a President Cuomo]. I am for Biden, and want everything to go well for Biden, but at least we have a person who is very capable, a very capable backup, if you will … he’s doing a great job, he’s doing what any president should do.”

    Referring to Trump as “the idiot”, De Niro went on to say: “We of course could have survived this [pandemic] much better if the idiot had done the right thing, listened and heeded all the warnings, there were many, many warnings, and we are all paying for it now. It would have been bad in some ways, but never like this.”

    Whatever.

  194. Geriatric Mayfly says:

    Yesterday at Woolies while doing the shopping, I had to dodge around two stupid women gasbagging, entrenched in the fruit and vege section.
    “I’ve told you before Beryl, you should go to my Doctor, he’s a wonderful man. Removed that nasty wart in a jiffy. He did those varicose veins on Mavis and she swears by him…’ continues

  195. 1735099 says:

    When questioned as to why QLD was their hidey hole of choice, the crooks involved would (apparently) always say ‘the smokes were cheaper’.

    Might be something in that.
    Back in the sixties when we owned property at Dicky Beach, and the Vics were beginning to infiltrate the Sunshine Coast, my dad was fond of talking about “bloody Victorians – they come up here with one clean shirt and a twenty dollar note, and don’t change either the whole time they’re around.”
    As a rural Queenslander used to warmer climes, and no-bullshit behaviour, he had trained in Victoria in the RAAF at the beginning of WW2, and I think the experience scarred him. He used to say – “Look at the map. Melbourne is the aresehole of Australia”.

  196. Bar Beach Swimmer says:

    I am under no illusion that they are ignoring the constitution, but it is still valid to point out where they are breaking the law and that they are indeed criminals

    Struth, a significant example that we all know about; the (sometimes deliberate) ignoring of S44(1)

    If they can ignore the rules for application to the supreme law making institution of the land, they can ignore the remaining flotsam and jetsam.

  197. 1735099 says:

    The whole basis of the Commissioners findings against Pell, in regard to Ridsdale, relies solely on the honesty of Mulkearns to the consultors.

    No it doesn’t.
    Read the report.

  198. Mater says:

    Only Mater could link a political platform, over 120 years out of date, with current radical activity.

    Bit rich coming from someone who says this, in connection with something 50 years past:

    1735099
    #3401587, posted on April 9, 2020 at 8:01 am

    The Australian taxpayer sent thousands of young men to a civil war in peacetime on foreign soil on the basis of a lottery. They were obviously quite OK with that, as are those who post here.
    These same taxpayers and their descendants have an obligation to compensate those caught up in this debacle.

    1735099
    #3324953, posted on February 16, 2020 at 8:54 am

    I regard my taxpayer funded DVA benefits which help me and mine and other ex-service personnel who were conscripted to “live well” not as “revenge”, but as a form of financial apology from the ignoramuses who voted Coalition from 1960 until 1972.

  199. notafan says:

    Ok the floor price is not a tax but it appears retailers may simply have taken all the cheap stuff off the shelf.

    Can’t see anyone has run a constitutional argument about it.

  200. thefrollickingmole says:

    feelthebern

    I think its very likely a crooked child abusing turd would tell the truth when confronted.

    He wouldnt want to try and evade, deflect, lie or play down his offences in any way.

    Thats literally the standard of thinking the RC is using.
    They are literally saying the proven kiddy fiddler wouldnt have lied or tried to cover up his offenses to his supervisors.

    M: There’s another dead bishop on the landing, vicar sargeant!

    Detective: Uh, Detective Parson, madam. I see… suffrican, or diocisian?

    M: ‘Ow should I know?

    D: It’s tatooed on the back o’ their neck. (spying the tart) ‘Ere, is that rat tart?

    M: yes.

    D: Disgusting! Right! Men, the chase is on! Now we should all kneel!

    (they all kneel)

    All: O Lord, we beseech thee, tell us ‘oo croaked Leicester!

    (thunder)

    Voice of the Lord: The one in the braces, he done it!

    Klaus: It’s a fair cop, but society’s to blame.

    Detective: Agreed. We’ll be charging them too.

    http://www.montypython.net/sounds/sketches/faircop.wav

  201. Farmer Gez says:

    Knuckle Dragger
    #3444646, posted on May 8, 2020 at 8:39 am
    Mulkearns was a creepy, slimy old fuck, and half a midget as well.

    He was by all accounts a brilliant student and theologian in his early days.
    Too smart perhaps to see what ordinary people regard as gross criminality. You know the type.

  202. Nick says:

    Yesterday at Woolies while doing the shopping, I had to dodge around two stupid women gasbagging, entrenched in the fruit and vege section.

    Getting out of the car park I had a twenty something heifer suddenly put her reverse lights on and do the good around me’ thing that young drivers seem to like, she was smack bang in the middle of the only exit lane. She didn’t like the advice I gave her.

  203. feelthebern says:

    Too smart perhaps to see what ordinary people regard as gross criminality.

    Nope.
    He was the architect.
    Top 10 worst Australians of all time.

  204. Boambee John says:

    It was removed formally close to 50 years ago, as I recall, by Whitlam in 1973.

    More pelican sh1t.

    Holt in 1966.

    The fascist left always remembers any improvement as having been implemented by one of their idols,

  205. Mater says:

    If your point is that the White Australia Policy was entirely the property of the Labor Party, you’re simply wrong.
    The policy was bi-partisan for decades.

    Right. So you acknowledge that racism can exist on both sides of the political spectrum. Good. We are progressing with your education.

    So…as per my earlier comment, enough with the ‘Racist = Right-Wing” BS. It’s demonstrably untrue.

    P.S. Might be worth reading up about Harold Holt in relation to WAP. Referring to Whitlam, in relation to racism issues, is kinda shaky ground.

  206. Mater says:

    Snap BJ.

  207. Farmer Gez says:

    1735099
    #3444651, posted on May 8, 2020 at 8:44 am
    The whole basis of the Commissioners findings against Pell, in regard to Ridsdale, relies solely on the honesty of Mulkearns to the consultors.

    No it doesn’t.
    Read the report.

    Posting reports doesn’t cover your arse Numbers.
    They say Pell knew of Ridsdale because Mulkearns was truthful to the consultors.
    I don’t defend Pell’s lack of curiosity in these matters but I take exception to guess work by senior legal figures.
    You’re happy with that though.

  208. He used to say – “Look at the map. Melbourne is the aresehole of Australia”.

    Factcheck status: True
    Though Victoria doesn’t appear on most maps, so the saying actually is (& has been all my life)

    “Look at the map. The Gold Coast is the arsehole of Queensland”.

    (No charge for correcting your spelling. [Just as well your teaching subject was not English eh?])

  209. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    All female casts.

    They keep doing it, hoping it will work this time because all the other times the concept’s crashed and burned the people in charge weren’t doing it right.

    Giant vampire squid decides it wants to be a small vampire squid.

    Goldman Sachs Won’t Take Companies Public Without Women, Minorities On Board Of Directors (7 May)

    So Goldman now wants to socially engineer companies whether they like it or not? Giving the customer what they asked for is so last century. Fine by me – I always like watching Darwinian natural selection in action.

  210. feelthebern says:

    Bruce, look at what Goldmans does.
    Not what it says.

  211. notafan says:

    Yes it does.

    There is no evidence that information was passed on.

    Mulkearns never claimed so and he was interviewed by the Royal Commissioners shortly before his death. Other consultors said no recollection and there is no written record.

    It is all subjective conjecture.

    As regards the comments about Dowlan, a Christian brother, Cardinal Pell trusted others with direct responsibility for Dowlan to take action and in hindsight wished he had followed up more vigorously because Dowlan was transferred to a Melbourne school where he assaulted other boys.

    The full details of Searsons activities were glossed over when parishioners approached then auxiliary Bishop Pell and when he became Archbishop he took decisive action.

  212. notafan #3444630, posted on May 8, 2020 at 8:27 am
    States have taxation rights*

    The High Court overturned that one about 23 years ago.
    Case brought by some Vietnamese trader in Cabramatta IIRC.
    That’s why Queensland is no longer cheaper with fuel smokes or grog.
    Anyone who was in business at the time, selling any of those “Big Three” commodities, remembers it very very well.

  213. Boambee John says:

    “Look at the map. Melbourne is the aresehole of Australia”.

    What does that make Tasmania, just below Port Phillip Bay?

  214. notafan says:

    Gez

    I think Cardinal Pell sincerely believed those to be adult homosexual activities and if that is the case his lack of desire for details is perfectly understandable.

  215. Anthony says:

    History will not be kind to Louise Milligan. After the shit really hits the fan with analytical historical research, Milligan will not even rate a footnote for her poor writing. Nothing she has written or said has stood up to examination to date.

  216. 1735099 says:

    Bit rich coming from someone who says this, in connection with something 50 years past:

    Trying to connect these two issues is more than a bit rich.
    But feel free to scroll through my comments and my blog if you need something to do.
    It keeps you off the street….

  217. Nothing she has written or said has stood up to examination to date.

    Grandma triceps Milligan insta-blocks on Twitter anybody who dissents from her view.
    A sign of a woman who is well aware she’s lying.

  218. Leigh Lowe says:

    As regards the comments about Dowlan, a Christian brother, Cardinal Pell trusted others with direct responsibility for Dowlan

    Who had the call over postings of Christian Brothers?
    Dioceses?
    The order of brothers?

  219. notafan says:

    That’s no right to levy ‘duty and excise’ definitely satp

    The states still have taxation rights they just don’t exercise them .

    Anyhow the NT legislation is specifically not a tax.

    The retailer retains any additional margin.

    The result seems to have been the removal of cheap wine from the shelves.

    If there is a constitutional angle I can’t see where it has been raised.

  220. notafan says:

    Definitely the order LL.

    Rare for a religious order to be answerable to the diocese.

  221. Geriatric Mayfly says:

    History will not be kind to Louise Milligan. After the shit really hits the fan with analytical historical research, Milligan will not even rate a footnote for her poor writing. Nothing she has written or said has stood up to examination to date.

    When we know who he is, and the chocolate drop eyes and curly eyelashes are verified, this will go down as the only primary material worth quoting from this Penny Dreadful.

  222. Farmer Gez says:

    The full details of Searsons activities were glossed over when parishioners approached then auxiliary Bishop Pell and when he became Archbishop he took decisive action.

    He did, but it concerns me on this matter that Pell was not thorough and let it pass through his hands too easily. He admitted to being distracted and not attentive as he should have been in hindsight.

  223. That’s no right to levy ‘duty and excise’ definitely satp

    It was ‘duty & excise” that was found to be unconstitutional for the states to be charging.
    There were significant cash refunds issued. Quite a bunfight over that cash at the time.

    The George Pell trial is the only HC decision I’ve agreed with.
    (that’s not an exhaustive dig through the memory – there may be others)

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