What to do when a pandemic sidelines your grievance …

Coronavirus: ‘I’m scared of being buried as the wrong gender’.

They’ll shave my long hair, put me in a suit, use my birth name and call me ‘he’ all the way through the funeral. The thought of my family doing it makes me feel so sick, but I know they will.”

– “Lucy,” 21, doesn’t have as much to worry about as other people.

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55 Responses to What to do when a pandemic sidelines your grievance …

  1. a reader

    I needed a laugh. That is hilarious

  2. Chris M

    Well it could move to Wuhan where tens of thousands of virus victims were incinerated like dog carcasses.

    At first glance it is funny but then less so when you realise these kooks in the BBC are exploiting the mentally knackered for their sick agenda.

  3. Zatara

    Solution for “Lucy” – Get yourself cremated and have your ashes flushed down the wimmin’s loo.

    Sorted.

  4. rickw

    “When I came out as trans, and I told my parents I would stop living as a boy, they basically said ‘no’. They literally tried to beat the trans out of me. My dad told me I needed to find a girlfriend and sort myself out.”

    Dad knows best.

  5. Shy Ted

    Is the funeral happening soon? Hope so. Someone’s got to put the FUN in FUNeral.

  6. nfw

    I was wondering who or what would bother with what Lucy’s worries were. When I looked at the original doc it all became clear. No doubt our “I will follow you brits because you know all” ABC will soon have its own Lucy moments. Nothing like wasting taxpayer or in the BBC’s case compulsory and forcibly taken “subscriber” funds.

  7. H B Bear

    Who upset the trannies this time?

  8. Mother Lode

    No matter what ‘Lucy’ does now, in thousands of years if his body is dug up by developers, anthropologists, or some new progressive fad (there are always new ones because every generation wants to feel they are ‘the first’), they will look at the skeleton, look at the pelvis, look at the DNA, and say “It’s a bloke”.

  9. Iampeter

    What to do when a pandemic sidelines your grievance …

    I don’t know.
    Why don’t you tell us?

    Also, remind me again what your issue is with those who believe in more than two genders?
    I mean, you believe in things like life after death, right?

  10. Bronson

    You’ll be dead and beyond knowledge or care.

  11. dover_beach

    Half the problem here is that we accepted their substitution of the term ‘sex’ for ‘gender’. Remember, much of this occurred under the banner of gender when this meant how we ‘acted out’ being male or female. What has since occurred is the erasure of ‘being male or female’; that is, sex. We are simply in the new dispensation whatever we ‘act out’, gender.

  12. billie

    dress up and make believe, acting

  13. Colonel Bunty Golightly

    Perhaps plan your funeral for ‘green bin’ night Lucy and save yourself all this angst!

  14. a reader

    I thought about this overnight. A secular funeral is really about helping other people get over the dead person. It’s nothing more. So his predilections are irrelevant if his parents want to remember the son they produced

  15. Tim Neilson

    Also, remind me again what your issue is with those who believe in more than two genders?
    I mean, you believe in things like life after death, right?

    Assuming that CL does have such an “issue” (rather than just drawing attention to “Lucy’s” strangely intense concern with matters of appearance that may arise after Lucy has already died) there is no contradiction whatsoever between that and Christian beliefs.

    At all times since the Ascension (excepting any miraculous events of which I’m unaware) Christian beliefs in the afterlife cannot be evaluated by the scientific method or by any other technique dependent on physical observation.
    Whether “Lucy” is or isn’t appropriately referred to as “he” in the proper application of the English language can be ascertained by physical observation such as DNA testing.

  16. Tim Neilson

    PS Iamashiteater, if you want to challenge that based on your extensive knowledge of “Christian metaphysics, epistemology and ethics”, please gratify my curiosity and let us know how you acquired that knowledge.

  17. Also, remind me again what your issue is with those who believe in more than two genders?

    Because it is biologically impossible????

    They can believe whatever they like. It doesn’t change the facts.
    Just don’t expect me to refer to a male as her or a female as him.
    I refuse to participate in their delusions.

  18. Iampeter

    Because it is biologically impossible????

    But life after death isn’t?

  19. Iampeter

    They can believe whatever they like. It doesn’t change the facts.
    Just don’t expect me to refer to a male as her or a female as him.
    I refuse to participate in their delusions.

    Yea, I’m with you on this.
    I’m just pointing out that this applies to way more than just the trans people and their beliefs.
    It certainly applies to many trying to criticize/mock them.

  20. dover_beach

    Quite right, Tim, IamMengele can’t compare Christian belief re immorality of the soul with gender ideology because he knows nothing of the former (or the latter most probably). He will, of course, be surprised by its Aristotelian component, but then he is ignorant of Aristotle too. Poor sod.

  21. cuckoo

    A young colleague of mine, who was female and physically presented as such without complications, nevertheless declined to use ‘gendered’ pronouns. She died quite unexpectedly. Others kept referring to her as ‘they’ after her death. I so wanted to say “Well, wherever she is she’s using gendered pronouns now”.

    Jokes aside, the real fear of this weirdo is that there is an afterlife, and that bullshit like this won’t apply there.

  22. Iampeter

    Quite right, Tim, IamMengele can’t compare Christian belief re immorality of the soul with gender ideology because he knows nothing of the former (or the latter most probably).

    This is what I mean, Wal1957.

  23. Tim Neilson

    But life after death isn’t?

    That depends on whether physical existence is the only form of existence.

    Come on Iamashiteater, give us the old “existence exists!” routine again.

    Or if you’ve got some other proof that non-physical forms of existence are impossible, let us have it.

    And while you’re at it, please gratify my curiosity and let us know how you acquired your extensive knowledge of “Christian metaphysics, epistemology and ethics”.

  24. Iampeter

    That depends on whether physical existence is the only form of existence.

    Come on Iamashiteater, give us the old “existence exists!” routine again.

    Or if you’ve got some other proof that non-physical forms of existence are impossible, let us have it.

    The funniest thing about this is that you’re not even aware of what’s happening here to realize just how perfectly you’ve proved my point.
    Thanks for the laughs.

  25. Tim Neilson

    Iampeter
    #3458064, posted on May 19, 2020 at 4:18 pm

    You’re not fooling anyone except maybe yourself Iamashiteater.

    You’ve been spanked humiliatingly yet again, and going for your old “I know what’s going on but I’m not actually going to spell it out” routine just reveals your gutlessness and dishonesty.

    And we’re getting close to double figures in you gutlessing out of saying how you acquired your extensive knowledge of “Christian metaphysics, epistemology and ethics”.

  26. dover_beach

    Someone please hand IamMengele a tissue.

  27. Lee

    She died quite unexpectedly. Others kept referring to her as ‘they’ after her death. I so wanted to say “Well, wherever she is she’s using gendered pronouns now”.

    Even as a young child I knew that the use of the word “they” in the singular sense was terribly ungrammatical.
    The English language is being perverted and made less understandable just so as not to offend an infinitesimal minority who choose to ignore biology.

  28. MatrixTransform

    6 feet of dirt and I can still hear the whinge

  29. Rex Anger

    Thanks for the inspiration, Matrix!

    Coming Soon to a Spoopy Screen Near You!

    Karen had a difficult time when they were alive. But one day, their parents cursed them by burying them as Kevin, dooming them to wander forever outside their true body. Well, it just. Won’t. Do! (Thunder crash)

    Watch! As Karen wrestles with the intersectional difficulties of being two spirit in a material world

    Be Amazed! At the ghastly norms imposed on the otherly alive by the ghoulish spookriarchy.

    Recoil! As Karen deadnames their wrongdoers- Like, literally.

    All this and more spoopiness in: ‘Night of the Problem Glasses.’ Coming to a scary streaming service near you.

    (Maniacal laughter fades to black)

  30. Rex Anger

    (Bugger! Fake HTML tags got interpreted as the real thing and didn’t appear! Just imagine the voiceover is done by a cheap knockoff of Vincent Price…)

  31. Squirrel

    At least in Straya we don’t have to pay a (separate) licence fee to get that sort of crap from a public broadcaster.

  32. MatrixTransform

    Thanks for the inspiration

    and thank you … paid back in spades (pun intended)

  33. Bruce in WA

    Gender is a grammatical term.

    Humans have sexes.

    Two.

    1ampmeter … look up what quantum physics has to say about “life after death”.

  34. Iampeter

    1ampmeter … look up what quantum physics has to say about “life after death”.

    You don’t need quantum physics to know about life and death.
    Just like you don’t need DNA tests to know about genders.

    The other funny thing is that not only do most of you hold beliefs that make it impossible for you to mock/criticize the transgender, but you wouldn’t know how to criticize them anyway. None of you actually know how we know that there are only two genders.

  35. Rex Anger

    You don’t need beliefs to know that a man declaring he is actually a woman and vice-versa is not an observably ‘normal’ behaviour. Nor to criticise any of them (and their cheerleaders and White Knights like you, Petey…) who demand that society pander to and enable their behaviour.

  36. dover_beach

    IamMengele still confusing sex with gender. And he’s pretending to school other people. Poor sod.

  37. Rex Anger

    I look forward to the day when Petey admits he is not a ‘classical’ liberal, but rather its modern iteration- A raging, dreck-hurling cultural Marxist in a nice hat (That last bit is particularly galling, as I like nice hats).

    I mean, the Cats are a welcoming and tolerant bunch, certainly more so than any leftist collective you’ll ever find. Petey can take his place of honour as the token leftist opposition. Nothing will change, least of all his gatekeeping, white-knighting on behalf of all the fashionable victim-groups, projections and utter contempt for wrongthink. But at least he will be true to himself. And that is what is important [/rainbows and transgenderqueer kittens]

  38. Iampeter

    IamMengele still confusing sex with gender. And he’s pretending to school other people. Poor sod.

    What do you mean I’m confusing sex with gender? Also, if I wasn’t schooling you then you can point to a post from yourself where the alternative is happening. But you can’t.

    I look forward to the day when Petey admits he is not a ‘classical’ liberal, but rather its modern iteration- A raging, dreck-hurling cultural Marxist in a nice hat

    Um, you don’t know what a “classic liberal” is. You used it to describe Trump. And interchangeably with conservatism.
    You literally have no idea what you’re talking about.

    Dover’s comment is actually appropriate in response to you:

    And he’s pretending to school other people. Poor sod.

  39. Iampeter

    Nothing will change, least of all his gatekeeping, white-knighting on behalf of all the fashionable victim-groups

    You don’t even understand what you’re reading and responding to. Wow.

  40. Rex Anger

    Yes I do, Petey. You’re busy trying to tell anyone who expresses any derision towards the complaining individual, that they have no right to say anything. Cos that would be against their beliefs in personal liberty etc.

    Same behaviour as any SJW troll out there on the interwebs, just a mildly different approach.

  41. dover_beach

    What do you mean I’m confusing sex with gender?

    IamMengele always feigns confusion when his errors are exposed.

  42. Rex Anger

    Petey, you really need to give it up. I’ve challenged the purity of your politics and the labels you attach to everything you don’t like. In exactly the same way you attack the ‘purity’ of every Cat on this blog and label them. And you have a real problem with that.

    You’ve attempted to write me off as knowing nothing (based on definitions of political thought you haven’t and likely won’t share, so we are at least on a common field), yet despite deciding that my interactions are beneath you (I.E. Gatekeeping acceptable thought- Very leftist comrade), you rush back to every reply to screech that at me again.

    I’m not going to be offended by you calling me stupid or illiterate. I’ve wiped the floor with mops that could hold a better argument than you.

  43. Iampeter

    IamMengele always feigns confusion when his errors are exposed.

    You guys can’t answer a single question. Almost like I wasn’t confusing anything, but you still gotta say something vague and non-specific to pretend you’re debating but trying to avoid getting caught out about not knowing anything. This doesn’t fool anyone and is sad.

    Yes I do, Petey. You’re busy trying to tell anyone who expresses any derision towards the complaining individual, that they have no right to say anything.

    No, I’m just saying people who don’t know anything about politics carrying on with the tone of experts are looking foolish.

    I’ve challenged the purity of your politics and the labels you attach to everything you don’t like.

    You just babbled nonsense talking points and demonstrated you don’t know even basic political concepts., like what a “left winger” is.

    You’ve attempted to write me off as knowing nothing

    Well, you kinda did that yourself.

    I’m not going to be offended by you calling me stupid or illiterate.

    Those are your words. And mine, yes.

    I’ve wiped the floor with mops that could hold a better argument than you.

    LOL. But you haven’t made ANY arguments. You just show that you don’t know anything about this topic and don’t see that as a show stopping problem to arguing about it.

  44. Rex Anger

    Petey, you’re not supposed to prove my point. Give it up, man.The spittle’s running down your beard…

  45. Iampeter

    Petey, you’re not supposed to prove my point. Give it up, man.The spittle’s running down your beard…

    Now you’re trying to copy me from earlier in the thread. Cringe.

    I couldn’t pay for this content anywhere else.

  46. Rex Anger

    Is that the best you have? Still projecting.

  47. dover_beach

    You guys can’t answer a single question. Almost like I wasn’t confusing anything, but you still gotta say something vague and non-specific

    Not at all. I identified specifically where your confusion resided. DNA tests don’t indicate gender, they indicate sex. You really are a dim bulb.

  48. Iampeter

    I identified specifically where your confusion resided. DNA tests don’t indicate gender, they indicate sex. You really are a dim bulb.

    What does that even mean?

    Can’t wait for your next beyond parody response.

  49. *What does that even mean*

    Exactly what it says.

    Moron.

  50. Iampeter

    Well, science doesn’t have anything to do with determining “sex” anymore than it has to do with determining “gender.”
    Also, the terms “sex” and “gender” are used interchangeably when discussing whether someone is male or female.
    So, whatever Dover is trying to say makes no sense whatsoever. The only question here is how little self respect one would need to have to try and pretend otherwise.

    Like I said earlier, not only do you raving loons have no grounds on which to mock/criticize the transgender, but you don’t even know how to prove that there are only two genders anyway.

  51. Science doesn’t determine biological sex…

    This from a troll who has the airs and graces of someone with an IQ of 165.

    What a spectacular beclowning.

  52. Iampeter

    Yes that’s why we knew how to tell genders apart before we even had any science.

    Spectacular beclowning indeed!

  53. dover_beach

    Tell us about those ‘gender’ chromosomes, IamMengele, and the ‘gender’ organs of a human being, or horse, or any other organism that reproduces ‘genderedly’. Tell us also about ‘agendered reproduction’. I’m sure many biological and medical textbook indexes have many of these search terms.

    Go!

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