Multi-billion dollar Beijing deal

What are we to make of this: Labor Treasurer Tim Pallas lashes out at Morrison government as China deal deadline looms? Where is our economy heading?

Victoria is locked in critical final-stage negotiations with Beijing over investments worth billions of dollars at the same time as its Treasurer has savaged the Morrison government’s “vilification” of China over trade and the COVID-19 pandemic.

Tim Pallas’s pro-China intervention comes as the deadline for Victoria to sign an “investment road map”, which ties the state to the communist giant with extraordinarily cosy language, is just weeks away.

Under Victoria’s decision to sign-up to China’s Belt and Road Initiative — in defiance of federal government security advice — key investment details are meant to be signed by the middle of 2020 following completion of a draft road map in March.

The looming deadline emerged as the Andrews government dodged parliamentary questions on Wednesday about whether any of the state’s $24bn coronavirus rescue package would be borrowed from China.

The “framework agreement” underpinning the Victoria-China deal was signed by Premier Daniel Andrews and Vice-Chairman Ning Jizhe of the National Development and Reform Commission of the People’s Republic of China on October 23 last year.

The document raises the possibility that Mr Pallas’s unprecedented backing of Beijing in its row with the Morrison government over the global coronavirus pandemic investigation was motivated by protecting the Belt and Road Initiative.

What’s in it for Australia? What is the quid pro quo? I thought such deals had to be approved by the Federal Government? Have they? Will they? Should they?

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76 Responses to Multi-billion dollar Beijing deal

  1. nb

    Communists all.
    Fentanyl.
    Organ harvesting.
    Viruses.
    Debt invasion.
    Armed warships in Sydney harbour.
    Gum on shoes.

  2. Infidel Tiger King

    This needs to be stopped and legislated against permanently.

  3. NoFixedAddress

    Just go and arrest the bastards

  4. Tim Neilson

    Just announce that whatever money they get from the Chicoms will be deducted from their Commonwealth grants, even if it means a 0% GST allocation.

  5. David C

    Is Khemlani still alive?

  6. NoFixedAddress

    Not forgetting that the Australian Labor Party (without U) is formally aligned with and a member of The Progressive Alliance.

    The Progressive Alliance (PA) is a political international of social-democratic, socialist and progressive political parties and organisations founded on 22 May 2013 in Leipzig, Germany. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Alliance

    The PA website is an interesting read https://progressive-alliance.info/

    And the PA motto – Freedom, Justice, Solidarity (luckily Liberty didn’t crack a mention).

  7. Infidel Tiger King

    Just announce that whatever money they get from the Chicoms will be deducted from their Commonwealth grants, even if it means a 0% GST allocation.

    Double the deduction.

  8. Colonel Bunty Golightly

    Often wonder – what is the point of having a federal government? As is happening now, the labor states are doing their best to wreck the economy because they know the federal government will have to pickup the pieces welfare wise and wear the blame when the economy goes belly up! The states make all the decisions regarding closing borders, opening and closing the economy and when and if schools open. The federal government simply supplies all the goodies and seems to have no say. So what is the point?

  9. Clam Chowdah

    I warned you all: no good can ever come from a premier who looks like a character in VIZ.

  10. Iain Russell

    Dan and his Kru have already received their Aldi bags.

  11. nfw

    Investment? Belt and Road? Code words for takeover and slavery. As ever politicians have no ethics. Keep the peasants “locked down” to “save lives” “because we’re all in this together” while importing ownership and control from the very people (racist fascist China) who created the situation. Makes perfect sense to me.

  12. Mark M

    Our government is just sitting by and letting it happen — so far with disastrous results …

    The People’s Republic of Queensland
    The dubious conduct of an Australian university with Chinese ties shows the CCP’s long reach abroad.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-peoples-republic-of-queensland-11590015806

  13. egg_

    Count OBOR the Hunchback.

  14. Siltstone

    Have Pallis and Andrews registered as agents of a foreign goverment? Have they been sent letters demanding details of there connections?

  15. Alan

    Very good questions indeed.
    Other people are also beginning to notice:
    Appeasement of the Chinese Communist Party may be “Treason”.
    And we must wonder if anyone with the abililty will actually do anything about it?
    Anyone can declare a guilty verdict, but sentencing is an entirely different beast.

  16. Herodotus

    If voters in state or federal elections vote for hopey/changey types, this is what they(and we) get.
    And that’s on top of the usual justice bench stacking, politicisation of police, feminising of defence forces and obeisance to supra-national idiots of a feather in UN sinecures.

  17. And no one knows what this supposed ‘agreement’ even contains, it’s all kept in great secrecy. Maybe, just maybe, this will wake up those who keep voting for the git. But why would they when you hardly hear a peep from the opposition. If the opposition doesn’t see it as a problem, why would Labor voters and fence sitters see it as such?

    Labor gave over $1 billion to a company not to build a freeway, which cost us dearly. It’s embroiled in a complete farce with a new tunnel contractor, which will cost us dearly. The idiocy continues and the opposition are no where to be seen or heard. What are they doing, just waiting for the next election (when all of this is a distant memory) and then they’ll try to wind up voters?

    You have to make people angry now and maintain the anger every, single, day until it reaches boiling point. Unfortunately, the Libs don’t even appear to want to win.

  18. mem

    Shades of the Khemlani Loans affair?
    The Loans affair, also called the Khemlani affair, was a political scandal involving the Whitlam Government of Australia in 1975, in which it was accused of attempting to unconstitutionally borrow money from Middle Eastern countries through the agency of Pakistani banker Tirath Khemlani (17 September 1920 — 19 May 1991), bypassing standard procedures of the Australian Treasury. Minerals and Energy Minister Rex Connor, along with Treasurer and Deputy Prime Minister Dr Jim Cairns misled Parliament and were forced from the Whitlam Cabinet over the Affair, which was a key precursor to the Constitutional Crisis and the Dismissal of the Whitlam Government in 1975.[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loans_affair

    Time for the federal Government to call out Andrews. Don’t wait for deal to be signed. The deal has not followed due process. Dodgy Dan needs to be called to account quickly.

  19. Up The Workers!

    Labor – the more things change, the more they stay the same.

    During the Second World War, Labor’s protected Maritime Unions – on double the salary of our troops – were stealing the food and possessions of brave Australian and Allied troops about to be shipped to the war zones and were sabotaging their weapons and ammo.

    Nowadays, Dodgy Dan and Tiny Tim are playing “robbin'” to President Xi’s ‘Batman’, in pushing his “Bat Soup and Road” initiative like good little commo Quislings, and in typical A.L.P. fashion are pumping up his tyres, rather than those of the Victorian taxpayers whose pockets they pick for their vast unearned Parliamentary salaries.

    Neither Dodgy Dan nor Tiny Tim have ever had an honest job in their lives – having been professional Union/Party plasterers of bovine excrement ever since leaving school (assuming they ever attended one).

  20. sfw

    I love how the Lib opposition in Victoria is making hay out of this.

  21. Morrison is being an empty chair PM and has been since the diumvurate of Dan and Beryl assumed power.

  22. egg_

    Morrison is being an empty chair PM and has been since the diumvurate of Dan and Beryl assumed power.

    SloMo’s been a passenger throughout the Plandemic.

  23. Roger

    Just announce that whatever money they get from the Chicoms will be deducted from their Commonwealth grants, even if it means a 0% GST allocation

    Too generous.

    If Victoria wants to be a sovereign state – which is what this deal amounts to – excise it from the Commonwealth.

  24. Mother Lode

    My feeling is that this is not ideologically driven, but that it is the only way they will be able to build infrastructure they can boast of in the next election.

    It is disheartening in the extreme to even begin pondering where all the money they currently receive is going.

  25. Roger

    If Victoria wants to be a sovereign state – which is what this deal amounts to – excise it from the Commonwealth.

    Ha! Just saw Johannes Leak’s cartoon today!

  26. Roger

    My feeling is that this is not ideologically driven, but that it is the only way they will be able to build infrastructure they can boast of in the next election.

    Not too far from the mark, I’d say.

    Andrews and Pallas are hardly intellectual giants plotting the subversion of Australia.

    More like useful idiots.

  27. It is disheartening in the extreme to even begin pondering where all the money they currently receive is going.

    As I pointed out, much goes into crap that delivers nothing, over-paying for things, or wastage on welfare crap and the like. A lot has been spent on the removal of railways crossings that have buggered traffic flow for years, so they have managed to get one thing right (though who knows at what cost).

  28. Mark M

    This sounds like a joke. It’s not.

    Meet the W.H.O.’s Goodwill Ambassadors:

    Flag of China Peng Liyuan, wife of Chinese dictator Xi Jinping, and Major General in the People’s Liberation Army
    https://www.un.org/fr/node/55065

    James Chau, propagandist for Chinese state TV
    https://www.newsweek.com/who-must-drop-its-pro-beijing-goodwill-ambassador-opinion-1504961

    via: https://twitter.com/HillelNeuer/status/1262917231358418954

  29. IainC

    Premier Dan, provincial leader of a very small school of fish in a small pond, obviously has ambitions to be a Chairman Dan.
    BTW, aside from allusions to corporal punishment, what does the “Belt” in Belt and Road actually refer to?

  30. Tel

    I suggest that the Commonwealth would be within it’s rights to demand that all commercial agreements signed by Australian states must be denominated in Australian Dollars.

    That’s no different to standard legal tender laws which apply to every Australian individual.

    So long as it all runs in Australian Dollars, the future government can always print their way out of trouble. They real debt slavery comes if we have a state government stupid enough to sign up to payments in foreign money.

  31. Roger

    BTW, aside from allusions to corporal punishment, what does the “Belt” in Belt and Road actually refer to?

    Belt refers to overland trade routes, road to maritime trade routes.

    I guess something got lost in translation.

  32. Mother Lode

    Seriously, the Victorian Labor party are such sluggish torpid minnows that the Chinese must find it child’s play getting Victoria to do their bidding.

    Or perhaps it is more of a cat playing with a mouse.

    Nah, a cat playing with a caterpillar.

  33. Dr Faustus

    My feeling is that this is not ideologically driven, but that it is the only way they will be able to build infrastructure they can boast of in the next election.

    My feeling too.

    When you read through the Chinglish version of the 2019 MOU, the explicit purpose is quite clear. The whole deal is to give “Chinese infrastructure companies” preferential access to infrastructure projects in Victoria. (With second prizes of handing over exchanging Australian IP, selling food, and doing something with aging populations.)

    Essentially, Victoria will borrow big to pay to have Chinese construction of roads/ports. Any Victorian jobs will be quite incidental.

  34. Diogenes

    , but that it is the only way they will be able to build infrastructure they can boast of in the next election.

    I know it makes great TV – all the progress updates in hi-vis, and some of the infrastructure is undoubtedly useful, why this emphasis on infrastructure to ‘create jobs’ and get the ‘economy moving’. Its not like days of old, where anybody capable using a pick and shovel or nailing 2 bits of wood or lifting 40lb bags of concrete could get a job work building bridges, railways, roads etc etc. Its not like 737 Pilot Smith, or Purser Mary Jones who have just been sacked from Tiger Airlines can’t rock up the front gate & be employed.

  35. Roger

    Essentially, Victoria will borrow big to pay to have Chinese construction of roads/ports.

    Chinese workmanship not worth a premium then?

  36. pete m

    The cth has exclusive legislative power over foreign affaira.

    They could pass a law that any representative body in country exercising legal powers over citizens must not obtain any financial benefit from a foreign power without consent of treasurer.

    Simples

  37. egg_

    The whole deal is to give “Chinese infrastructure companies” preferential access to infrastructure projects

    Globally.

    If there’s anything to the “5G vilus” – it’s due to da expat Ch inese wukkas.

  38. Tel

    … the explicit purpose is quite clear. The whole deal is to give “Chinese infrastructure companies” preferential access to infrastructure projects in Victoria.

    Imagine the hilarity when those Chinese companies refuse to hire union guys and go through all the hoops of doing things the “Australian Way”.

    Then imagine further hilarity when Dipstick Dan attempts to gain favour with his union cronies by ” getting tough” on these big corporations that exploit the working man. All we need is some banjo music, some pretzels and of course don’t be in Victoria when it all goes wrong. Oh you are in Victoria? I’m so sorry.

  39. H B Bear

    The ALP wouldn’t recognise the national interest if it bit them on the arse.

  40. Googoomuck

    “My feeling is that this is not ideologically driven, but that it is the only way they will be able to build infrastructure they can boast of in the next election.”

    I also think that Comrade Andrews is betting that the Federal Government will bail out projects rather than let them fall under full Chinese control if there is a default.

    He’s a dangerous ideologue, IMHO. I was indifferent to him, but I turned against him over the Safe Schools issue. My view of him has been confirmed by his comments on the Pell case, the gang problem and the COVID19 lockdown. I’ve seriously thought about moving interstate, however I tell myself it won’t last too long.

  41. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Anyone can declare a guilty verdict, but sentencing is an entirely different beast.

    As far as I’m concerned, there is only one sentence for treason and no prizes for guessing what it is. When it comes to that grotesque deformed imbecile dunderhead dandrews I’d happily carry it out myself.

    So bemused – do you still stand by your bizarre claim yesterday that Victoriastan will be the last jurisdiction in this country to fall to the chinese?

  42. Robbo

    Andrews and Pallas are in the process of selling Victoria to the Chinese Government. I believe that the vast majority of Victorians would oppose this deal and it is now up to the Morrison Government to take urgent steps to stop it going ahead. Pallas has made it clear that he thinks the Chinese are not being treated fairly by Australia over the Corona virus pandemic and he puts the interests of China ahead of Australia notwithstanding the fact that this virus which has caused economic and personal havoc around the world was caused by his new best friends. His sellout is a disgrace and so is the support he is being given by Daniel Andrews.

  43. H B Bear

    Tel – imagine John Setka in a crib room full of Ch1nks. I suppose if he has the subs and the votes at ALP State congress he doesn’t care.

  44. Roger

    Pallas has made it clear that he thinks the Chinese are not being treated fairly by Australia over the Corona virus pandemic and he puts the interests of China ahead of Australia

    Where’s Sarah Chidgey when we need her?

  45. Robbo

    Why aren’t we hearing the Leader of the Opposition in Victoria shouting loud and clear that if they are elected to govern at the next election they will immediately repudiate this disgusting sellout deal to China? If the Chinese can back out of contracts whenever they feel like it then so can Victoria. The Chinese need to understand that this deal dies with a change of Government in Victoria.

  46. NoFixedAddress

    What a lot of bullshit that it’s not ideological.

    If Chairman Dodgy Dan and The Pallas Man were actually fair dinkum about jobs they would clear away all legislation that restricts building dams, forest harvesting and timber production, agriculture and restrictions on agricultural inputs, irrigated farming, gas exploration and development, coal development and use, coal and gas energy production, and on and on and on.

    Instead there will be a high speed train to Bendigo and one to Ballarat, increased spending on de Arts, closure of Moonee Valley Racecourse for high rise ponzis and you might even get some overhead freeways just like California.

    No Australian Government nor Government Department should ever, but ever be allowed to make Commercial in Confidence Agreements.

  47. Struth

    My feeling is that this is not ideologically driven, but that it is the only way they will be able to build infrastructure they can boast of in the next election.

    Dunno, would they do a deal with the Trump government like this?

    They’re commos all, and I would suggest it is very much ideologically driven , and criminally financially beneficial for them all.

  48. Spurgeon Monkfish III
    #3460548, posted on May 22, 2020 at 8:58 am

    So bemused – do you still stand by your bizarre claim yesterday that Victoriastan will be the last jurisdiction in this country to fall to the chinese?

    For the moment, yes. This agreement hasn’t been finalised (so it’s not a given that it will go ahead) vs all the infrastructure and land that has been gifted to the Chinese by other states.

    How much of Australia outside of Victoristan ostensibly now belongs to the Chinese?

    Googoomuck
    #3460547, posted on May 22, 2020 at 8:57 am

    I’ve seriously thought about moving interstate,

    But which state would you actually move to that would be better? Seriously, which state is significantly better and will continue to be so?

  49. Struth

    Now I have to go to Bunnings and try and buy some good drill bits not made in China, so I can actually drill through hard wood.

    China takes our Iron ore and mixes it with dirt before it sells it back to us.
    I wouldn’t be driving on their hi rise Victorian freeways.

  50. Struth

    I’ve seriously thought about moving interstate,

    You’re not allowed to, unless it’s between Vic and NSW.

  51. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    This agreement hasn’t been finalised

    I’m not hopeful that the stupid forking gliberals in the federal government will have the guts to stop this shameless treason.

    However, the fact remains that Dunderhead Dan has effectively tried to sell Victoriastan off to the chinese. No other jurisdiction has acted so blatantly.

    As the Darwin port debacle, I thought the territories couldn’t act in a such a way and that the Commonwealth could simply overrule such decisions .

    So why hasn’t it been? FFS the current federal government is absolutely fucking useless.

  52. Alex

    About time the Federal Treasurer invoked the FIRB to lay this one asunder.

  53. This sell-off to China isn’t just being driven by governments, but corporations worldwide looking to make a buck. How much flak has Trump received with his moves on China and US corporations that have virtually sold out the American worker? We aren’t that much different, nor are other Western countries.

  54. John Comnenus

    Dan has got SLOMO snookered here. If SLOMO inserts himself now, Beijing will play it as evidence of Australia’s hostility to Beijing and more punitive tariffs could be applied. Of course Pig Iron Dan and Aldi Bag Tim would echo Beijing’s talking points against the Commonwealth Government.

    SLOMO is called Slow because he is a very, very slow learner. Pig Iron Dan is not your mate SLOMO, he is not in favour of Australia and he would prefer China rather than the US to be our major strategic partner.

    Dan is now partially driving Australia’s foreign policy because SCOMO has vacated the field. Now the cost of entering the arena will be very high.

    Again, pathetic leadership from SLOMO.

  55. H B Bear – I much prefer the 60’s version ” They wouldn’t know a train was up them until the passengers got out!” Particularly apt with recent revelations of the $3B blowout of the Metro Train Tunnel?
    AS time passes I believe the new synonym for a Quisling will be a Pallas. A more obsequious example of trading grovelling loyalty for money by Tim would be hard to find?

  56. duncanm

    Robbo
    #3460558, posted on May 22, 2020 at 9:08 am
    Why aren’t we hearing the Leader of the Opposition in Victoria

    there’s only two answers here.
    1. they’re completely hopeless
    2. they’ve been compromised / paid off / influenced.

    $10 on option 2 for me.

  57. NoFixedAddress

    It’s Time to seek the de-registration of The Liberal Party of Victoria.

  58. Frank

    How much of Australia outside of Victoristan ostensibly now belongs to the Chinese?

    The wouldn’t really have much of a leg to stand on if Australia decided to renationalise things at some point in the future after a hard left change of government.

  59. max

    Looks like the HK situation is going to escalate.

    If there is another Tiananmen there it could be amen to Dan.

  60. Mother Lode

    What a lot of bullshit that it’s not ideological.

    Dan’s contempt for Trump’s America is ideological – in fact I would think almost reflexive.

    His readiness to get what for him look like freebies from China is not. He likely has no problems with the way China runs itself (which is not the same as being being a supporter) but is not working with China to some project beyond Australia and China. Just wants photo ops cutting the ribbons on freeways and hospitals.

    There is a lot of space between liking and hating, between hot and cold, tall and short – and we spend most of our time in the middling area. Dan neither loves nor hates China. He loves being Premier.

  61. BTW, aside from allusions to corporal punishment, what does the “Belt” in Belt and Road actually refer to?

    Belt refers to overland trade routes, road to maritime trade routes.

    No, no, no, no, no…no.

    The Road is the Road to Serfdom and the Belt is what you get if you try and divert from the Road.

  62. BTW, has anyone told that cock-eyed Commie that if he tries to cancel this Road he will end up…

    Oh wait…on second thoughts, say nothing.

  63. Dr Faustus

    Dan’s contempt for Trump’s America is ideological – in fact I would think almost reflexive.
    His readiness to get what for him look like freebies from China is not.

    Dan is suffering from CCP-modulated cargocultitis.
    Reading the nauseating twaddle in Article 1 of the framework agreement, he either believes, or pretends to believe in the OBOR win-win-win bullshit.

    It’s the lure of easy, free stuff all the way down.

  64. Dr Faustus

    BTW, has anyone told that cock-eyed Commie that if he tries to cancel this Road he will end up…
    Oh wait…on second thoughts, say nothing.

    🙂

  65. Professor Fred Lenin

    Australia would make an ideal colony for China, its has iron ore , minerals , coal ,produces wheat for noodles beef seafood and vegetables ,it can be taken over simply by giving Aldi bags of their weak currency to compliant politicians who claim to be socialist , behind the politicians is a hige herd of compliant left leaningo peasants who keep the politicians in office .’ Taking it wold be easy ,they have a tiny army ,airforce with antiquated planes and a navy that will have a few submarines in 50 or so years ,they may even work a bit .
    Therefore we should accelerate our take over plans ,takingit will also piss Trump off .
    Action o]immediate, TRUTH BEATS FACTS
    ,

  66. Morsie

    While I reckon that the opposition is hopeless, where are they going to be reported?
    ABC?The Age?TV News? The Project?
    Herald Sun ?The latter occasionally has a bite at the ALP but doesn’t sustain it.
    Its in the OZ but with bugger all circulation.
    Neil Mitchell?
    Distinct lack of outlets that will allow them a sustained campaign so I don’t think they bother.
    Also I do not think they like getting nasty.

  67. Kneel

    “Just announce that whatever money they get from the Chicoms will be deducted from their Commonwealth grants, even if it means a 0% GST allocation.”

    Noice.
    Or, tax overseas investments in funding public offices (ie, govs!) at, I dunno, 50%? 66%? 90%? 99%?
    Or tax the repayments of same at similar ridiculous level.
    IOW, borrow from O/S to run your Gov, pay the feds so much it’s just not worth the drama – cheaper to borrow locally.
    All funds from such taxes to be available for lending to public offices.
    Retrospectively applied since 2000.
    Watch ’em squirm!

  68. Googoomuck

    @bemused #3460570, posted on May 22, 2020 at 9:21 am

    And there lies the rub. My family ties are my priority, so moving too far away is a pipe dream. All things pass, both good and bad. This will pass – like a kidney stone.

  69. Kneel

    “Belt refers to overland trade routes..”

    Oh.
    I thought it might refer to what’s holding your trousers up – they’ll take it in preparation for a rear entry (it’s part of the repayment plan, see?)

  70. Tim Neilson

    Morsie
    #3460742, posted on May 22, 2020 at 12:23 pm

    True, the usual suspects in the MSM are no doubt fighting a scorched earth war against publicising any criticism of the Hunchback.

    But the SFL leadership are as usual fragging their own troops.

    Trump knows that the best way to get his views into the MSM is to say them in such a way that there’s a minor error or some sort of breach of wokeness – the MSM then go hysterical about the error or uncouthness, and do Trump’s work for him by getting the audience thinking about the subject that Trump wants them to be thinking about.

    There have been a few times recently when a Victorian Liberal has done something like that and the leadership has immediately ordered them to retract and apologise, rather than escalating.

    Hopeless. Or maybe duncanm is right and the leadership are enemy infiltrators.

  71. min

    Libs only get media coverage if Tim Smith calls chairman Dan names and then he gets into trouble for not being nice even by the media.

  72. Richard Bender

    The Crown in the right of Victoria is an separate polity from the Crown in the right of the Commonwealth, so no it doesn’t need approval from the federal government to enter into these deals. And nor should it. That’s the beauty of a federation. When an individual state stuffs up we can learn from it and those in Victoria can escape to another state.

  73. Old Lefty

    When can we expect boat people across the Murray?

    I have said it before and I’ll say it again: where is the egregious Sarah Chidgey of the Attorney-General’s department when we really need action against agents of foreign influence? If Porter is up to the job, he’ll order a wholesale purge of the leftist sheltered workshop he inherited from Gillard and Roxon. (Witness also their leftist political sham of a royal commission under McClellan.)

  74. Old Lefty

    You’re right, Morsie. Unless you read the Australian, if you lived in Melbourne you would be completely oblivious to the putrefaction of the Andrews government. The ABC and former Fairfax, to take one example among many, have not reported on the chummy links between the Andrews politburo and their donors at Cedar Meats.

  75. Squirrel

    Noting that the Constitution gives the federal government power over trade and commerce, immigration and “external affairs”, there’s not too much that a State government can get up to in this area without federal consent.

    It might be that the deal is not quite as horrific as it seems – in spite of the refusal to provide details to the public – or that there’s an “enough rope” approach being taken by the federal government. But the latter could bite certain gents on their well-padded backsides…..

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