Tuesday Forum: May 26, 2020

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  1. Rex Mango

    Mater, that was great clip.

  2. Rex Mango

    Salvatore SDM, this kid is a SJW & loves the spotlight, but right now we need him to do a job on UQ.

  3. Mark A

    rickw
    #3465127, posted on May 26, 2020 at 9:54 pm

    Cool machine:

    My kind of porn, keep them coming rickw

  4. rickw

    Vietnam war bring back:

  5. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I am reminded of an old friend of mine who called lezzo’s ‘floorboards’. ‘Tongue-in-groove’ was the justification.

    Rol op die vloer en lag my ersegat af……

  6. Mark A

    Bruce in WA
    #3465122, posted on May 26, 2020 at 9:49 pm

    Shame they’re models.

    (No exhaust even over the dirt alongside the runway)

    Yes I know but wouldn’t it be exciting in real?
    I didn’t think it needed pointing out.
    (the near touching of ground was a dead giveaway)

  7. dover_beach

    A Closer Look at Those Pell Redactions:

    Cardinal Pell has been made a scapegoat. Whether that was the intention of the Royal Commission, I cannot say. But that has certainly been the outcome of the almost obsessive examination of the actions and recollections of a man whose direct involvement in the management of these offenders was minimal at best. The blame falls squarely and overwhelmingly at the feet of Bishop Mulkearns, Archbishop Little and various Provincials of the Christian Brothers. Contrary to natural justice, and contrasted with the treatment meted out to Cardinal Pell by the pack-hunting media, these men are not today the objects of infamy and rebuke that they should be.

    Indeed. The fix is in.
    More great stuff from Quadrant.

  8. notafan

    I read the article about the Indian truck driver.

    13 tonnes of badly loaded soap in an 8 tonne truck.

    One day’s training.

    Poorly maintained vehicles.

    No mention of the company that ‘trained’ and employed him and whether they faced any sanctions.

  9. liliana

    Property investment is the way most Australians save for our retirement.

    … and it is killing our economy. It adds nothing to productivity and innovation. You could have the whole country ocean to ocean covered in dog boxes and then what? Keep importing people and add another layer?
    Besides stymieing the economy it is destroying our way of life. Look at how our cities are being destroyed by Universities. Suburbs are being blighted with high-rise future slums. Loss of amenity, congestion, pollution and pissed off people with no space to move. Someone explain to me how this can possibly be called ‘progress’?

  10. Rex Mango

    Dover, read that article couple of days ago & yes the Royal Commiche cooked the books big time. Incredible watching this all unravel. If you went back in time & told me that govt agencies would orchestrate a stitch up like this over a decade or so, wouldn’t have believed you.

  11. Knuckle Dragger

    Agreed nota.

    Were the great John Constantine here, he’d be going berko.

    And rightly so.

  12. liliana

    No mention of the company that ‘trained’ and employed him and whether they faced any sanctions.

    Can’t mention them as that would be racist. Just like the underpaying of staff at 7eleven. Couldn’t mention who the owners were as that would be ……

  13. dover_beach

    13 tonnes of badly loaded soap in an 8 tonne truck.

    Lucky we got off with only four dead than. It must have been a pig to drive.

  14. MatrixTransform

    Someone explain to me how this can possibly be called ‘progress’?

    property ‘investors’ need to do their bollox … their ‘yield’ is baked into the cost of everything

    somebody who doesn’t actually produce anything has to eat some shit.

    it’s time

  15. Knuckle Dragger

    Seriously.

    You reckon this peanut’s going be billed for this waste of time? Sacked?

    ‘An Iraqi ice addict who has spent almost five years fighting deportation from detention will get another chance to show why he should stay in Australia after a senior Administrative Appeals Tribunal member cut-and-pasted his findings from an earlier decision.

    ‘The Iraqi, who cannot be named for legal reasons, came to Australia as a refugee in 2008 after fleeing Iraq in the early 1990s fearing persecution as a Shia Muslim Kurd. He has convictions in Australia for “numerous offences” and has served time for a crime against his wife. Since 2015 he has been in immigration detention fighting government moves to deport him to Iraq.

    ‘Earlier this year he appealed a 2019 decision by senior AAT member Jason Pennell, who is paid up to $370,000 a year, which backed a decision by a delegate of the Immigration Minister that the man should be deported.

    ‘At the hearing, the man had no lawyer and when asked what the tribunal “did wrong” could only say he thought the decision was “unjust”.

    ‘But despite him making “no substantive submissions” to the court, this month Federal Circuit Court judge Christopher Kendall threw out the AAT decision and ordered he be given another hearing after he spotted large slabs of Mr Pennell’s decision had been lifted verbatim from the earlier ruling by a delegate of the Immigration Minister.’

    $370K, every year, for cutting and pasting. Badly.

    These are people [the AAT], by the way, who have the authority to approve affidavits to have people’s phones monitored and data collected from them.

  16. Salvatore SDM, this kid is a SJW & loves the spotlight, but right now we need him to do a job on UQ.

    Not so much that Rex. For what he did, & the uni is doing to him, he deserves support.

  17. Rex Mango

    Just on ABC reading about the Indian truck driver, when saw breaking news that the Israeli school teacher from Melbourne has been found mentally fit to be extradited. This will be a great trial.

  18. thefrollickingmole

    Would be good to see what fly by night accreditation mob signed the soap non dodger off to handle a truck.
    And how many times it’s been rebirthed before deregistration

  19. Knuckle Dragger

    Seriously.

    You reckon this peanut’s going be billed for this waste of time? Sacked?

    ‘An Iraqi ice addict who has spent almost five years fighting deportation from detention will get another chance to show why he should stay in Australia after a senior Administrative Appeals Tribunal member cut-and-pasted his findings from an earlier decision.

    ‘The Iraqi, who cannot be named for legal reasons, came to Australia as a refugee in 2008 after fleeing Iraq in the early 1990s fearing persecution as a Shia .. .. Kurd. He has convictions in Australia for “numerous offences” and has served time for a crime against his wife. Since 2015 he has been in immigration detention fighting government moves to deport him to Iraq.

    ‘Earlier this year he appealed a 2019 decision by senior AAT member Jason Pennell, who is paid up to $370,000 a year, which backed a decision by a delegate of the Immigration Minister that the man should be deported.

    ‘At the hearing, the man had no lawyer and when asked what the tribunal “did wrong” could only say he thought the decision was “unjust”.

    ‘But despite him making “no substantive submissions” to the court, this month Federal Circuit Court judge Christopher Kendall threw out the AAT decision and ordered he be given another hearing after he spotted large slabs of Mr Pennell’s decision had been lifted verbatim from the earlier ruling by a delegate of the Immigration Minister.’

    $370K, every year, for cutting and pasting. Badly.

    These are people [the AAT], by the way, who have the authority to approve affidavits to have people’s phones monitored and data collected from them.

  20. I see Biden was laying a wreath on Memorial Day. Guessing it was not for the 4 Americans killed in Benghazi in 2012.

  21. notafan

    DB

    That was the off duty officer killed in Wantirna in 2017.

    Driver has just been sentenced.

    Certainly raises questions about the trucking industry in Melbourne.

  22. Bruce in WA

    Bruce in WA
    #3465122, posted on May 26, 2020 at 9:49 pm

    Shame they’re models.

    (No exhaust even over the dirt alongside the runway)

    Yes I know but wouldn’t it be exciting in real?
    I didn’t think it needed pointing out.
    (the near touching of ground was a dead giveaway)

    I’m sorry, mate. One of my biggest failings (among many, as my wife will attest), is that I’m a ped … pedi … pedaf … pedant, that’s it!

  23. K2

    The truck driver that hit the four cops on the Eastern Fwy grew up in Oz. Originally from Griffith.

  24. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Originally from Griffith.’

    No wonder he was off his chops then.

  25. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Bruce in WA
    #3465155, posted on May 26, 2020 at 10:30 pm

    Hey, listen, me old china, has anyone heard of Pedro the Ignorant lately? He was looking for guidance as where to take some lady – who was the object of his lust – for lunch, in the Swan Valley, on Saturday, and he’s been off the scope since. He’s not in a cellar somewhere…

  26. These are people [the AAT], by the way, who have the authority to approve affidavits to have people’s phones monitored and data collected from them.

    We’re in the very best of hands.

  27. Bruce in WA

    Hey, listen, me old china, has anyone heard of Pedro the Ignorant lately? He was looking for guidance as where to take some lady – who was the object of his lust – for lunch, in the Swan Valley, on Saturday, and he’s been off the scope since. He’s not in a cellar somewhere…

    No, but considering how cold, wet and miserable it’s been since then, he may not have surfaced … umm, thrown back the doona, just yet.

    You never know, he might have been very lucky!

  28. Rex Mango

    KD, two sorts of judges. The old school sort who have secretaries and write every word of their judgments and the ones who enjoy nothing more than entering a room with an entourage of young attractive legal advisers, who often do the judgment writing for them. Easiest way to clean up the Australian legal system is to mandate that all judgments be handwritten in biro.

  29. cohenite

    Summary (by Gideon Rozner, Director of Policy, Institute of Public Affairs) of the 1st day of fucking JCU’s appeal and persecution of professor Ridd:

    I’m writing to update you on day one of Dr Peter Ridd’s appeal hearing at the Federal Court, which of course has been triggered by James Cook University after they rejected the comprehensive finding in favour of Peter after his initial hearing at the Federal Circuit Court early last year.

    Already, after the first day of proceedings, it appears that legal precedent on the matters of academic freedom – at least in Australia – is scant, at best. That means that what the court does in response to the arguments made today will have enormous consequences for the cause of free intellectual inquiry in Australia.

    And that, to me, is the key issue at the heart of this case. It is the reason why Peter’s fight is so important. There is a lot more at stake here than the sum of $1.2 million originally awarded to Peter. This is about university administrators being able to define the parameters of acceptable academic discourse, to exercise veto power against ideas and opinions – especially ones that are, as Peter’s barrister Stuart Wood QC said today, ‘hard truths’.

    Make no mistake, this is the most important case on intellectual freedom in the history of Australian jurisprudence. It touches on so many of the issues that we talk about here at the IPA every day: Freedom of expression, the role of universities in public debate, the right to speak out against prevailing orthodoxies, and of course the scientific basis for popular notions of climate change.

    Now, many of you will recall that I covered Peter’s previous hearing from the steps of the Federal Circuit Court in Brisbane. This time has been a little different. In the era of ‘social distancing’, the case is being heard on video link via Microsoft Teams. The good news is that the court registry has been allowing members of the public to join the ‘meeting’ to observe proceedings, so I’ve been watching from the IPA boardroom with our Executive Director John Roskam, Director of Communications Evan Mulholland and Research Fellow (and former lawyer) Dara Macdonald, to watch it all unfold.

    Being an appeal hearing, many of the points of fact and law in this case were covered in the Federal Circuit Court last year. But even so, JCU’s attempts to read down the academic freedom clause – on which Peter has relied – are striking.

    For context, the academic freedom clause is contained in clause 14 of the JCU staff enterprise bargaining agreement – the industrial instrument that effectively formed Peter’s employment contract. The clause gives university staff a number of clear protections, including the right to ‘pursue critical and open inquiry’, ‘participate in public debate and express opinions about issues and ideas related to their respective fields of competence’, and even ‘express unpopular or controversial views’.

    However, clause 14 also refers to the JCU staff Code of Conduct, which imposes a suite of vague obligations like ‘acting collegiately and in the academic spirit’, ‘respecting the rights and reputations of others’ and ‘upholding the integrity and reputation of the university’. And so on the one hand, you have Peter arguing that his right to academic freedom was trashed when the university sacked him for calling out bad science. On the other hand, you have JCU arguing that in speaking out Peter was not upholding his obligation to protect the reputations of his colleagues and that of the university. Last year, the trial judge found overwhelmingly in favour of Peter.

    Enter Bret Walker SC, the barrister representing JCU in this appeal (and, incidentally, one of the most eminent lawyers in Australia). JCU are clearly leaving nothing to chance, and have spared no taxpayer-funded expense.

    Walker made the case that while Peter was free to express his views on the reef science coming out of JCU, he did not do so in a ‘collegiate’ way that ‘respected the reputations’ of the university and his colleagues. In other words, Walker is suggesting that it was not what Peter said, but the way in which he said it.

    The problem, of course, is the way in which these clauses were used against Peter. Would any other academic have been hit with a finding of official misconduct for publicly disputing scientific findings which were so clearly wrong?

    As Stuart Wood QC explained, the code of conduct and the EBA are, by their nature, two very different documents. The code of conduct creates obligations on JCU staff. The academic freedom clause creates a right. (Tellingly, Bret Walker had referred to the provisions of clause 14 as ‘so-called’ rights. But as Stuart Wood QC said, they are not ‘so-called’ rights, they are rights – full stop – and in the context of a university, very important ones.)

    ‘The code of conduct is a sword, the academic freedom clause is a shield,’ he said. ‘It is a shield against the code of conduct, because if the code is deployed as JCU did, then the academic freedom right is lost.’

    For now, day one has wrapped up with the appeal hearing to continue tomorrow

  30. thefrollickingmole

    Pedro was being watched by the ladies of the CWA, the Metamucil militias crack troops.

  31. Bruce in WA

    Well, a few days ago my BP meds were changed from two in the a.m. to one a.m. and one p.m. I’m wondering if that’s why I have been getting so tired these last few evenings?? It’s not yet 9.00 p.m. here and I’m struggling.

  32. Mark A

    thefrollickingmole
    #3465168, posted on May 26, 2020 at 10:44 pm

    Pedro was being watched by the ladies of the CWA, the Metamucil militias crack troops.

    Knowing how they work in small to mid towns, they’d would have known his bank balance to a penny.
    Not that there is anything wrong with that.

  33. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Pedro was being watched by the ladies of the CWA, the Metamucil militias crack troops.

    You do not EVER knock the ladies of the Country Woman’s Association. Those ladies have a penchant for intrigue, scheming and plotting that the Borgia Popes would envy, and an intelligence network that would make MOSSAD look like rank amateurs.

  34. dover_beach

    And it’s not about vengeance, it’s about justice. They are very different.

    That isn’t true. Vengeance is just desert for a wrong. It is the predominant requirement of justice. So, as you say, immediately before the above, it is the sting of vengeance – of being rightfully convicted – that deters, but then deterence itself is not even a consideration of justice.

  35. EvilElvis

    Pedro was being watched by the ladies of the CWA, the Metamucil militias crack troops.

    I knew he was going too large, too fast. Pluck the zimmerframe one off first. Or the one with the bung eye. Never ever, go Jaguar first time out.

    On the plus side the boots on Jags are spacious.

  36. Mark A

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #3465173, posted on May 26, 2020 at 10:53 pm

    You do not EVER knock the ladies of the Country Woman’s Association. Those ladies have a penchant for intrigue, scheming and plotting that the Borgia Popes would envy, and an intelligence network that would make MOSSAD look like rank amateurs.

    Too true.
    Mum is still a member but a lot has changed in the organisation, but gossip is still there.

  37. DrBeauGan

    That isn’t true. Vengeance is just desert for a wrong. It is the predominant requirement of justice. So, as you say, immediately before the above, it is the sting of vengeance – of being rightfully convicted – that deters, but then deterence itself is not even a consideration of justice.

    The object of justice in the case of murder is retribution, not vengeance. The latter is impersonal, the former is personal. The function of just retribution is to deter vengeance.

  38. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Father charged after Willow, 4, lay dead for days

    David Murray
    National Crime Correspondent
    @TheMurrayD
    41 minutes ago May 26, 2020

    A four-year-old girl lay dead in her Brisbane home for at least two days before an ambulance was called, with her body found to be malnourished and suffering horrific­ wounds that exposed her bones, police allege.

    In a harrowing case of alleged neglect, Willow Dunn’s father, Mark James Dunn, is accused of leaving her body in a cot in her bedroom, even after discovering her face had been attacked by rats.

    New Zealand-born Mr Dunn, 43, has been charged with his daughter’s murder, allegedly asking paramedics who arrived at his house: “I’m in trouble, aren’t I?”

    It is one of the first cases of its kind since the Queensland government expanded the definition of murder last year to include reckless indifference to life, after public outcry at child killers being given light sentences for manslaughter.

    Police allege Willow had burns to her scalp and gaping, infected­ sores that left her hip bones exposed­, The Australian has been told.

    It is believed she had Down syndrome and lived at the house with her father, stepmother, and 19-year-old stepsister.

    Mr Dunn is alleged to have told police he found her body on Saturday and that in the next days he saw signs of vermin attack. An ambulance­ wasn’t called until 9.20am on Monday.

    Breaking, from the Oz

  39. Fisky

    Peter Dahlin (彼得·达林)
    @Peterinexile
    BREAKING. UK TV regulator
    @ofcom finds Chinese Party/State TV @CGTNOfficial broadcasting in violation of due impartiality concerning #HongKong protests.

    https://ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0031/195781/The-World-Today-and-China-24,-CGTN.pdf

    Burn!

  40. Rex Mango

    Dr BG, think you have your formers & latters mixed up.

  41. DrBeauGan

    Dr BG, think you have your formers & latters mixed up.

    Thanks Rex. You’re right.

  42. It’s not the prospect of being wrongfully convicted that deters a murderer.

    Yes, that was my point.

    That’s why if there is a high wrongful conviction rate and it is well known, you’re not going to deter many murderers.

    Now consider how unless the median voter cares, there won’t be much political pressure to change the situation until we tend towards extreme examples occurring.

    Now, as much as I am for the death penalty in limited circumstances, do you trust the politicised police (also with a history of corruption) and crown prosecutors in Australia?

    Then again it might have curbed some of the excesses of corrupt police in NSW and QLD.

  43. JC

    The LA Nazis were kind of doing what the Chinese regime is trying on here and around the world.

  44. Rex Mango

    Am not invested great deal with death penalty, though if a relative was murdered things may change. My only thoughts are it would make the legal industry more serious with execution on the cards. The lawyers can lock someone like Martin Bryant away in inhumane conditions for life, but avoid the obvious conclusion.

  45. BrettW

    From the Courier Mail. What a joke ADF HQ has become. However in todays ADF I suspect course attendees will be fast tracked for promotion.

    “The Australian Defence Force is calling for military personnel to go on a $12,000 Gender Peace and Security course that will draw on “feminist theorising” and make them “gender sensitive, gender inclusive and gender responsive”.

    The Monash University course is being run by two feminist professors who believe “masculinist politics” are to blame for a host of the world’s political problems, including Brexit.

    But sending four personnel from the navy, army, airforce and public service on the course has come under fire from current and former members of the Australian Defence Force.

    “The ADF should not be taking this nonsense seriously and should instead focus on doing its job,” former army officer Bernard Gaynor said”.

  46. Rex Mango

    Bernard Gaynor is a voice in the wilderness. He has been fighting this nonsense for years. The ADF should give him a medal.

  47. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    “The Australian Defence Force is calling for military personnel to go on a $12,000 Gender Peace and Security course that will draw on “feminist theorising” and make them “gender sensitive, gender inclusive and gender responsive”.

    “The role of the infantry is to seek out and close with the enemy, to kill or capture him, to seize and hold ground, to repel attack, by night or day, regardless of season, weather or terrain.”

    I’m sorry, have I missed something here?

  48. Rex Mango

    ZK2A, always been a mystery to me what the SJW’s are up to with the military. If I took over the over the ABC, I would reform it, but I wouldn’t go in and destroy their arts shows. Same if you took over a theatre company, only a lunatic would drive out gay blokes.

  49. The Monash University course is being run by two feminist professors who believe “masculinist politics” are to blame for a host of the world’s political problems, including Brexit.

    They’re commie frauds who just hate normal people, especially men.

    If they really wanted equality, they’d be egalitarians, not feminists.

  50. C.L.

    Police allege Willow had burns to her scalp and gaping, infected­ sores that left her hip bones exposed­, The Australian has been told.

    It is believed she had Down syndrome and lived at the house with her father, stepmother, and 19-year-old stepsister.

    Mr Dunn is alleged to have told police he found her body on Saturday and that in the next days he saw signs of vermin attack. An ambulance­ wasn’t called until 9.20am on Monday.

    This is like a perfect representation of leftist ‘morality’ in one tragedy.
    They let Willow die because she was Down syndrome. She obviously died horribly but these lowlife cretins did nothing more than take cues from Australia’s most progressive, most beautiful people.

  51. JD

    Engineering porn. No butts!

  52. C.L.

    If I took over the over the ABC, I would reform it, but I wouldn’t go in and destroy their arts shows.

    I run ABC classic FM more or less continuously. The hosts at various times of the day are excellent – especially the women – and never wander anywhere near politics. You could even say it’s somewhat ‘right-wing’ given the playlist and the enthusiastic way the hosts describe the narratives of musical pieces or operatic performances: men slaying enemies, righting wrongs, fighting over women, ladies swooning over men, longing for a champion etc etc.

    I’d burn the ABC to the ground but I’d keep classic FM – free.

  53. dover_beach

    The object of justice in the case of murder is retribution, not vengeance. The latter is impersonal, the former is personal. The function of just retribution is to deter vengeance.

    Retribution is vengeance. The object of justice in any wrong, including murder, is just desert. As for the function of just retribution being the deterrence of vengeance, no; even if we set aside the dispute over the term, the function of just retribution is justice, namely that the wrongdoer receives what they deserve. To return to our dispute, nothing is added by including impersonal or personal as if this raises an important relevant difference. If justice requires that wrong A receive just desert X, does it matter who requires X? If the wife of a slain man demands X, how is the wife demanding it any different from a judge demanding it if both do so in justice? No morally relevant distinction is involved so far as I can. However, I can understand why, as a matter of prudence, we might want to leave the judgement of such matters to court, for example, those personally involved might not see the matters as clearly as those without a personal connection to the wrong, but this doesn’t mean that vengeance is very different from justice or retribution.
    In the relevant literature where one typically finds disparaging remarks against vengeance, the same is also said in respect of retribution; I dare say, the criticism of one is synonymous with the other.

  54. Rex Mango

    CL, ABC Classic FM is more right wing than 2GB. They only play stale white male music.

  55. Rex Mango

    Funniest aspect is it will take hundred or more years for ABC Classic FM to find alternative music to play. Like asking the Louvre to clear out the old masters.

  56. JC

    Beauty porn.
    You know, sheilas are beautiful on the whole, while men are generally so so veering toward the ugly side. Men,however, make/create truly beautiful things.

    Look at this gorgeous piece of ass and I bet there wasn’t one single sheila who helped create it.

    Totally work and wife/girlfriend safe.

    https://i.pinimg.com/564x/0d/bd/48/0dbd48da916c87fd80205521ef3b2ecf.jpg

  57. Rex Mango

    This video contains no tits & arse, but some really nice model aircraft carriers:

  58. egg_

    the failed Cardigan Army uprising

    The Keyboard Warrior division?

  59. JC

    This is how fucking dishonest, how degraded and how worthless but also dangerous The WHO has become. In order to get back at Trump, this is what they have to say.

    The WHO wants you to believe that it, with a straight face, is suspending any further research on hydroxychloroquihe because of concerns over safety. You should be insulted as to how stupid they believe you are.

    This medication has been around for ages. It is not dangerous and if it were, we would have known about it decades ago.

    The WHO are canutes.

  60. Zyconoclast

    … but I’d keep classic FM – free.

    Well worth 8c per day

  61. egg_

    Miriam Gargoyles has lunch all the cultural appreciation of indig concerns (she calls them first nations people) of linda Bukowski in Crocodile Dundee.

    Adam Hills had to cut her out of a Zoom meeting on his show after she went on a rant about eebil Maccas when he asked if she was isolating or using them whilst on the road… “but they’re nice and let you use their toilets, even if you don’t eat there” – too late love, you just cut your own throat and squandered an opportunity to plug your new show.

    Comedy Gold.

  62. Bruce in WA

    Just walked past the TV on my way up to bed to read. “Alita: Battle Angel” is on.

    Question: She’s a cyborg, right? Body is mechanical, right?

    So why can you see bra straps through her jumper and a panty line through her trousers??

    (A friend wants to know.)

  63. Bruce in WA

    Just off to bed now.

    Might leave this here. Make of it what you will.

  64. egg_

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  65. Arky

    Liberty Post:
    ..

    liliana
    #3465138, posted on May 26, 2020 at 10:13 pm
    Property investment is the way most Australians save for our retirement.

    … and it is killing our economy. It adds nothing to productivity and innovation. You could have the whole country ocean to ocean covered in dog boxes and then what? Keep importing people and add another layer?
    Besides stymieing the economy it is destroying our way of life. Look at how our cities are being destroyed by Universities. Suburbs are being blighted with high-rise future slums. Loss of amenity, congestion, pollution and pissed off people with no space to move. Someone explain to me how this can possibly be called ‘progress’?

  66. Cpt Seahawks

    Joe Scarborough, Trump is on you big time. If the God Emporer is going you this hard, you are in deep trouble.

  67. Tom

    Monday was Memorial Day — America’s equivalent of Anzac Day. A.F. Branco.

  68. MemoryFault

    Thanks Tom.
    Patrick Cross today.

  69. notafan

    What did Northern Ireland’s troubles have to do with Christianity?

    Indigenous versus imports.

    Marxism versus everyone else.

    Have jobs versus denied jobs.

    Have political power versus disenfranchised

    Etc

  70. Tintarella di Luna

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #3465179, posted on May 26, 2020 at 11:03 pm

    I see Zulu has posted the article on the horror of child neglect — Will there be a special and separate Royal Commissioner investigate this horrendous neglect of this poor little child? Where were the myriad organisations and authorities? It is just sickening and where did it happen? In Brisbane, in the lockdown state headed by the most obnoxious Karens on the continent.

    It just breaks my heart to think of the short brutalised life of this poor little soul a life lived without knowing what it is to be loved, cared for and treasured, she only knew the misery of pain, hunger and neglect.

  71. Sydney Boy

    ZK2A

    “The role of the infantry is to seek out and close with the enemy, to kill or capture him, to seize and hold ground, to repel attack, by night or day, regardless of season, weather or terrain.”

    Have I missed something here? Nope.

    99% of the rank and file are just as appalled as the Cats.

  72. vr

    It seems Amy Cooper of Franklin Templeton has been fired.

  73. Cardimona

    Don is on.

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/live/

    Slashing the cost of insulin.

  74. notafan

    Was a terrible story about the neglected little girl.

    May she rest now in peace.

    Rats in the house.

    What on earth.

  75. rickw

    It just breaks my heart to think of the short brutalised life of this poor little soul a life lived without knowing what it is to be loved, cared for and treasured, she only knew the misery of pain, hunger and neglect.

    I would hate to be a vulnerable child in Australia. 99% chance that the bureaucrats will fail you.

    So many sensitivities to be considered, with preventing you dying being at the bottom of the list.

  76. calli

    None of the Aussies hit the spot and the British ones are just grotesque.

    Cross for comment, Lester for humour (and very neatly observed).

  77. notafan

    Trouble with these phone video trial and executions is you don’t know what happened before the film started rolling.

  78. rickw

    Daily dose of Vietnam!

  79. calli

    Lol. I Karened yesterday about all the overnight wobbly bubble bums so last night it was model aircraft carriers.

    Touché.

    Good sports all round. 😀

  80. rickw

    One owner classic car:

  81. calli

    I’m struggling to imagine how anyone could be so cruel to a small child. And no, mental illness won’t cut it. They fed and clothed and washed themselves. Evil people.

  82. Knuckle Dragger

    Very few things drive me to pure fury in this day and age, having been there and back quite a bit.

    Mr Dunn from Brisbane is one of those things. A four year old girl. In a cot. Covered with sores and infections from deliberate neglect, so much so that flesh had been eaten down to the exposed bone. Attacked by rats, pre or post-mortem it matters not.

    Dunn’s new missus and her adult daughter also fall into that category. They will claim ignorance, but it won’t wash. The little girl was left to die because she had Down Syndrome, and now they’ve been pinched Dunn and his coterie, instead of being beaten to death in the street will plead mental health, stress and/or terrible drug use.

    It’s that simple.

  83. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious
    Anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers
    And you will know
    My name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.’

    Ezekiel 25:17. Also Julius Winfield. Both are appropriate in the Dunn matter.

    Of course he won’t be beaten to death in the street, sadly. On remand, one can only hope. After which his corpse can be turfed into the hold of the next available 787, flown to Auckland, dumped on the tarmac and St. Horse Chops sent the bill.

  84. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘I left my daughter to die because she was retarded, and wasn’t worth the effort.’

    Now where have I heard that before?

    Oh yes. From the compassionate people.

  85. Dunn’s new missus and her adult daughter also fall into that category. They will claim ignorance, but it won’t wash. The little girl was left to die because she had Down Syndrome, and now they’ve been pinched Dunn and his coterie, instead of being beaten to death in the street will plead mental health, stress and/or terrible drug use.

    Incredible – but it’s at the extreme end of a continuum of neglect, disregard and devaluing of people with disabilities.
    At the other end of that same continuum, we observe individuals who use terms like “retard” and “spaz” as insults posted on websites.

  86. *Using mean words is literally the same as killing people*

    Ah yes, the Democratic Socialist School of Wizarding, where words are magic spells.

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  87. Knuckle Dragger

    If you’d have cared to look, you opportunistic serial coward you will have seen the opinion that this girl’s life should have been given additional value, not less.

    You’re a blinkered, one-dimensional self-hating narrative-building elderly retard who’s now stooped to using the death of a child to bang his daily drum.

    Yet another failed gotcha moment.

  88. Praise Kek.

    Words are magic spells.

    Meme magic is real.

  89. mh

    I see the US has cracked the ton overnight.

    100,000 Covid-19 deaths.

  90. Caveman

    In fact, the doctors kept saying, ‘Just leave her in the corner and she’ll die.

    ’ So, it sounds terrible, but I’d look at Victoria and think, ‘Well, you’re going to die, so I’m not going to invest too much in you.

    ’ But she didn’t die.

    Snippet from the Daily Tele. Piers 2016 re Triggs

    Just puttin it out there.

    I couldn’t imagine what that little girl went through.

  91. We make the child comfortable and the mother and doctor have a discussion…

    Other than the rat bites, how is this much worse?

  92. About bloody time.
    The Israeli justice system has finally overcome years of political cronyism.

    An Israeli court has ruled that alleged child sex abuser Malka Leifer can be extradited to Australia. The former Melbourne headteacher is wanted on 74 sexual assault charges. The pivotal ruling comes six years after Australian police first filed an extradition request, and follows dozens of hearings and setbacks in a dramatic court saga in Jerusalem that has deeply strained relations between Israel and Australia. “I decided to accept the expert panel’s opinion: she’s fit to stand trial,” Judge Chana Miriam Lomp said of a psychiatric board recommendation from January that accused Leifer of faking mental illness to avoid extradition. Dassi Erlich, one of three Australian sisters who have accused Leifer of abuse during her time as principal of a Jewish ultra-Orthodox school, said she had “too many emotions to process”.

    At one stage, Israeli police recommended indicting Israel’s deputy health minister on suspicion he tried to interfere with the case by pressuring court-appointed psychiatrists to support Leifer’s mental illness claims.

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  95. Knuckle Dragger

    Jesus LS. C’mon.

    ‘We make the child comfortable’

    Other than the malnutrition to the point where a four year old could fit in a cot and the infected sores eaten down to exposed bone in various places on her body, yeah – quite comfortable.

    And mummy wasn’t in the picture.

  96. You’re a blinkered, one-dimensional self-hating narrative-building elderly retard who’s now stooped to using the death of a child to bang his daily drum.

    And you’re doing exactly the same thing, except your daily drum is arrhythmic.
    And I don’t need to “stoop” to using the death of a child as an excuse for ad hom abuse.
    Go back to bed and get out the other side – or you could try AMT.

  97. Don’t blame me, blame the Governor of Virginia.

  98. About bloody time.
    The Israeli justice system has finally overcome years of political cronyism.

    An Israeli court has ruled that alleged child se x abuser Malka Leifer can be extradited to Australia. The former Melbourne headteacher is wanted on 74 sexual assault charges. The pivotal ruling comes six years after Australian police first filed an extradition request, and follows dozens of hearings and setbacks in a dramatic court saga in Jerusalem that has deeply strained relations between Israel and Australia. “I decided to accept the expert panel’s opinion: she’s fit to stand trial,” Judge Chana Miriam Lomp said of a psychiatric board recommendation from January that accused Leifer of faking mental illness to avoid extradition. Dassi Erlich, one of three Australian sisters who have accused Leifer of abuse during her time as principal of a Jewish ultra-Orthodox school, said she had “too many emotions to process”.

    At one stage, Israeli police recommended indicting Israel’s deputy health minister on suspicion he tried to interfere with the case by pressuring court-appointed psychiatrists to support Leifer’s mental illness claims.

  99. Bruce of Newcastle

    None of the Aussies hit the spot

    Knight does, at least in suburbia I suspect. 😀
    Especially the cat.

  100. mh

    No ass videos overnight.

    Rex, RUOK?

  101. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘And I don’t need to “stoop” to using the death of a child as an excuse’

    But you did. Very publicly, again demonstrating your endearing personal qualities.

    I see you, vulture.

  102. Knuckle Dragger

    Gee willikers.

    That Cummings chap in the UK must have quite the collection of other people’s skeletons.

  103. AMT? Wow. Whoa.

    Anger Management Therapy.
    Little Baghdad on the Arafura is a very angry town…..

  104. Cassie of Sydney

    “And I don’t need to “stoop” to using the death of a child as an excuse for ad hom abuse.”

    But everyday the Jooo hating racist turd from Toowoomba is here plastering “ad hom abuse”….he simply has no self awareness.

  105. Cassie of Sydney

    “Knuckle Dragger
    #3465286, posted on May 27, 2020 at 7:39 am
    ‘And I don’t need to “stoop” to using the death of a child as an excuse’

    But you did.”

    That’s right….he did…because he can’t help himself. He even uses the horrific neglect and murder of a child to have a dig at commentators here. He has no moral compass.

  106. Rex Mango

    mh, thanks am fine. Just heard ABC RN reporting on the Afghan ‘village idiot’ killing. May have misheard as was in the half dream room, but pretty sure they said he was beaten by a patrol two years prior to the one that shot him. That snippet does seem a bit coincidental.

  107. Cassie of Sydney

    “calli
    #3465256, posted on May 27, 2020 at 6:52 am
    I’m struggling to imagine how anyone could be so cruel to a small child. And no, mental illness won’t cut it. They fed and clothed and washed themselves. Evil people.”

    Yep.

  108. Bruce of Newcastle

    KD – Cummings is a competent righty, that’s all you need to know. The left hates him like not-from-China crud.

  109. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Little Baghdad on the Arafura is a very angry town…..’

    Yet again, you are wrong.

    Beagle Gulf and the Timor Sea. The Arafura runs across the central and eastern Top End coasts. But that’s okay, because you’ve said loud and proud that:

    ‘I write for an audience.’

  110. Knuckle Dragger

    BoN:

    Fair enough, but he should stay away from T shirts. He looks like a dishevelled cyclist.

  111. Cassie of Sydney

    “Yet again, you are wrong.

    Beagle Gulf and the Timor Sea. The Arafura runs across the central and eastern Top End coasts. But that’s okay, because you’ve said loud and proud that:

    ‘I write for an audience.’”

    Should be…

    “I lie for an audience”.

  112. will

    At the other end of that same continuum, we observe individuals who use terms like “retard” and “spaz” as insults posted on websites.

    Number wearing the cloak of moral superiority.

    Numbers went into disability teaching because, whilst it was 1 year extra at teachers college, it was a well know bludge option. Not much teaching happened. Probably the easiest job around.

  113. But everyday the Jooo hating racist turd from Toowoomba is here plastering “ad hom abuse”….he simply has no self awareness.

    Writes Cassie (Karen?) as she indulges in her daily ad hom abuse……

  114. Bruce of Newcastle

    He looks like a dishevelled cyclist.

    Hehe, the Express weighs in:
    Dominic Cummings did NOT make mistake with lockdown trips – ‘What a witch hunt!’ (26 May)
    It’s nice to have at least one British newspaper that isn’t entirely raging stalinist in flavour.

  115. Cassie of Sydney

    “Writes Cassie (Karen?) as she indulges in her daily ad hom abuse……”

    I know…I know…the truth hurts….we all know the racist Turd has a problem with the truth…instead he prefers lies and fabrications….”I lie for an audience”.

  116. Little Baghdad on the Arafura is a very angry town…..

    San Salvador is a dirty, dirty place!

  117. Numbers went into disability teaching because, whilst it was 1 year extra at teachers college, it was a well know bludge option. Not much teaching happened. Probably the easiest job around.

    Not really.
    At the time I graduated from KPTC (1967), there was no special ed option.
    I fell into the work on RTA.
    It was a mind blowing contrast to what I had been doing for the preceding two years.
    And it was useful rather than futile.
    I picked up my additional qualifications initially through a DLNS rehab fellowship, and then through ten years of hard slog at evening classes at U of Q, and later through an in-service scholarship.
    As for the “easiest job around” – I worked in all three sectors during fifty years in education, and the most difficult were when I was a teaching principal and head of special education. Primary and secondary were a doddle in comparison.
    Doing equal justice to the teaching and administration was not easy, and I always ended up making a better job of the teaching and learning bit.

  118. Roger

    450 Australians estimated to have died from respiratory conditions due to bush fire smoke.

    That’s 450 mostly preventable deaths.

    Thanks Greens, state & local authorities for failing to manage eucalyptus forests.

    CMOs also silent. Hypocrites.

  119. Rex Mango

    Ok, just re-listened to that ABC report & it was Taliban that beat the bloke 2 years prior:

    https://www.abc.net.au/radio/programs/am/australian-special-forces-soldier-under-investigation/12289692

  120. Ragu

    Poor old Bob. Never had the common decency to give his life partner a reach around

  121. Boambee John

    and I always ended up making a better job of the teaching and learning bit.

    A very immodest self assessment by the bin chicken.

    Not sure about the teaching, but he doesn’t seem to have learned all that much.

  122. Infidel Tiger King

    It seems Amy Cooper of Franklin Templeton has been fired

    There are no good people in that story.

    Horrid behaviour by everyone.

    Poor dog.

  123. Maj

    Another reason why President Trump will win in November:

    Trump administration considering ‘back-to-work’ bonuses as part of next stimulus

    The Trump administration said Tuesday that it is considering a weekly back-to-work bonus for Americans returning to employment, part of a range of options the administration is weighing to revive the economy as the country begins to reopen.

    “It may well be, it’s something we’re looking at very carefully,” White House economic adviser Larry Kudlow said on Fox News’ “America’s Newsroom” Tuesday when asked about the proposal put forward by Sen. Rob Portman, R-Ohio. “Senator Portman has a good idea, he understands incentives and disincentives.”

    Portman has called for unemployed Americans who are returning to work to keep $450 out of the $600 a week they’re getting in additional federal unemployment benefits as a kind of “return to work” bonus — but it would expire at the end of July.

    It comes amid concerns and reports that a number of laid-off workers are receiving more in unemployment than they were before the pandemic.

    “I’m hearing from a lot of small business employers in Ohio who are ready to go, ready to start reopening again, that it’s been very difficult for them to get workers to come back when they can make more, sometimes substantially more on unemployment insurance,” Portman recently told Fox News.

    Kudlow agreed with that assessment.

  124. Maj

    If only Australia had this sort of leadership:

    US will pay for companies to bring supply chains home from China: Kudlow

    The Trump administration is willing to pay for U.S. companies to uproot their supply chains and bring them home from China, according to the president’s top economic adviser.

    The COVID-19 pandemic has caused supply chain disruptions and elevated concerns the U.S. has become too reliant on production in Asia, and specifically China, for goods and key technologies.

    China is the world’s largest producer of personal protective equipment, including masks, test kits and more that is needed to control the spread of COVID-19, which was first identified in Wuhan, China, and has infected more than 5.5 million people worldwide.

    “We welcome any Americans companies in Hong Kong or China mainland, we will do what we can for full expensing and pay the cost of moving if they return their supply chains and their production to the United States,” chief White House economic adviser Larry Kudlow told FOX Business’ Stuart Varney on Tuesday.

  125. calli

    And while Norman Swan parrots on about a deadly Third Wave, Chant reckons it’s all over.

    A bit late to the realisation, but better late than never.

    It’s becoming more about ideology than health.

  126. Not really.
    At the time I graduated from KPTC (1967), there was no special ed option.
    I fell into the work on RTA.
    It was a mind blowing contrast to what I had been doing for the preceding two years.
    And it was useful rather than futile.
    I picked up my additional qualifications initially through a DLNS rehab fellowship, and then through ten years of hard slog at evening classes at U of Q, and later through an in-service scholarship.
    As for the “easiest job around” – I worked in all three sectors during fifty years in education, and the most difficult were when I was a teaching principal and head of special education. Primary and secondary were a doddle in comparison.
    Doing equal justice to the teaching and administration was not easy, and I always ended up making a better job of the teaching and learning bit.

    Dude, they’re having a lend of you. Responding at all is the joke.

    Then again, no one wants to buy your book.

  127. Rex Mango

    20 years ago today was Bridge Walk across the Harbour Bridge. ABC RN just had Shane Phillips who is CEO of Tribal Warrior Aboriginal Corporation talking about how reconciliation has gone over the past twenty years. Could be me, but corporations called Tribal Warrior don’t seem to dedicated to reconciliation.

  128. Mother Lode

    I wonder if anyone who reads the Fin Review considers Rowe’s wobbly cartoons worthwhile.

    The novelty of his drawing style wears off pretty quick, and he must constantly attach labels to his figures to tell you who they are (while Leak, for example, managed to draw a figure looking like Frydenberg looking like Trump). But worst of all he offers absolutely no insight – which would be most telling among the newspaper’s constituency of people in business and finance.

    I get that there will be plenty of cronies out there who just want bigger government that they can sponge off, but are enough buying the paper?

  129. Candy

    Alcoholism in the father and stepmother perhaps and gross degradation.
    A 19 year old stepdaughter. Maybe drugs or intellectually deficient. There can’t be any normal there.
    Somewhere there is health or social workers who never followed up.

  130. vr

    IT — she gave up the dog to the local pet shelter.

  131. Mater

    1735099
    #3464274, posted on May 26, 2020 at 10:07 am

    You hate “elite” soldiers because you were sub-standard. Truthfully, I think you just hate professional soldiers, full stop.

    You have no idea how I performed as a soldier. Only people who served with me are entitled to make those judgements. And one of these days you’ll avoid ad hom abuse – that will be a short time after hell freezes over.

    Just following up from yesterday, Bob. As for those who can make judgements about you being a sub-standard soldier; for once, I’ll just take your word for it.

    During this exercise, I was taken out of my rifle section and assigned to operate as platoon medic. This was because the Platoon Commander was not entirely sure what to do with me, as diggers with my attitude were always a problem and being kept closer to HQ meant that there was less potential for me to create problems. Also, he didn’t have to put up with a section commander incessantly moaning about me, and this was probably less stressful all round. It’s a bit like what I’ve frequently done as a teacher with problem students – you keep the problem under your nose to make it easier to manage.

  132. If only Australia had this sort of leadership:

    USA: Covid-19 deaths per 1 million = 304
    Australia: Covid-19 deaths per 1 million = 4
    And
    USA: Firearm related deaths per 100000 = 12.27
    Australia:Firearm related deaths per 100000 = 1.2
    Our leadership is far from perfect, but it runs rings around the joke currently masquerading as American political leadership.

  133. Just following up from yesterday, Bob. As for those who can make judgements about you being a sub-standard soldier; for once, I’ll just take your word for it.

    I reckon I should put you on commission.
    Every time you post slabs of my memoir here, I sell a book or two.
    Thanks heaps…..

  134. egg_

    450 Australians estimated to have died from respiratory conditions due to bush fire smoke.

    That’s 450 mostly preventable deaths.

    Thanks Greens, state & local authorities for failing to manage eucalyptus forests.

    CMOs also silent. Hypocrites.

    In his new series, The Scrote interviewed a Firey mate* about his Firey mates and friends who expired in the NSW South Coast bushfires – all preventable deaths, but they blamed an angry Gaia, of course.

    *The Scrote has a property in the area, natch.

  135. thefrollickingmole

    At the other end of that same continuum, we observe individuals who use terms like “retard” and “spaz” as insults posted on websites.

    There is no slippery slope, lefties have been parroting that for decades.

    Take you faux morality, fold it till its all pointy and shove it up your bum you monomaniacal malingering misanthrope.

  136. Mother Lode

    It seems Amy Cooper of Franklin Templeton has been fired

    There are no good people in that story.

    Horrid behaviour by everyone.

    Look, it was funny watching her loose her shit, and her crazy frenzied phone call to the police ridiculous, but lost her job?

    A bit like watching a movie – you don’t see it as a camera filming something, you just see what is filmed. Similarly it is easy to watch the video of her going to pieces and ignore the guy filming. He kept filming because he enjoyed making her squirm like a lizard pinned to a board. And why did he feel the need to film her letting her dog off the leash anyway? What was it for?

    Unpleasant banshee she may well be, but to lose her job? And this will follow her around for a long time. What are her chances of getting another job any time soon?

    Phone cameras plus doxxing.

    Revolting.

  137. hzhousewife

    Somewhere there is health or social workers who never followed up.

    Health and social workers are ordinary people. Despite claiming altruism, they really really don’t want to deal with the hard cases. Like most teachers, they really really want to teach the bright and talented, they do NOT want to be given the bottom classes to struggle with.

  138. thefrollickingmole

    Exclusive footage of Wang when hes not busy looking at little girls through mirrors or using beachside perv cams.

  139. thefrollickingmole

    Posted on the dedicated oldde thread.
    But Ill chuck it here as well.

    Who did Karen donate her money to??

    https://www.opensecrets.org/donor-lookup/results?name=amy+cooper&cycle=&state=NY&zip=&employ=&cand=

  140. Dr Faustus

    And while Norman Swan parrots on about a deadly Third Wave, Chant reckons it’s all over.

    Coronavirus ‘actually on the way up’, warns WHO as New York Stock Exchange reopens

    “Right now, we’re not in the second wave. We’re right in the middle of the first wave globally,” said Dr Mike Ryan, WHO’s executive director.

    So, there’s the field, expertly covered.

  141. egg_

    US will pay for companies to bring supply chains home from China: Kudlow

    Xi let things get “buggy” on his watch – no one to blame but himself.

  142. Ed Case

    2 sides to every story, particularly the Central Park Karen story.
    https://heavy.com/news/2020/05/christian-cooper-video/
    The 6′ 8” Birdwatcher told the slightly built Karen ” You do what you want to [meaning don’t leash the dog] and I’ll do what I want to do, but you may not like it.”
    That’s when she freaked out and phoned the cops.
    [Hat tip to commenter Cloudbuster at the Unz Review.]

  143. egg_

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  144. Tel

    Phone cameras plus doxxing.

    Revolting.

    And that my friends is why you should always wear a mask … and dark glasses … and a fedora.

  145. Roger

    In his new series, The Scrote…

    I see he’s following in Red Kerry’s footsteps – retire and then get a gig back at the ABC where you interview people who agree with you. Nice work…

  146. egg_

    And while Norman Swan parrots on about a deadly Third Wave, (NSW CMO) Chant reckons it’s all over.

    A bit late to the realisation, but better late than never.

    No “ZigZag” path out of isolation?
    A crumbling Economy on its last legs in ICU?

  147. dover_beach

    That was the off duty officer killed in Wantirna in 2017.

    Thanks notafan.

  148. Dr Faustus

    In Timing Is Everything news:

    Anger as wait times for Australian citizenship blow out during coronavirus pandemic

    …Carla Wilshire, CEO of the Migration Council Australia, said the numbers were unacceptable, even with the constraints of a pandemic.

    “Getting those waiting times down is critical in terms of really managing people’s sense that their lives are progressing and they are able to make decisions going forward around their commitment towards Australia.”

    Absolutely critical.
    Nothing more critical.
    A wheelbarrow of cash to Aisle 3. Now!

  149. Tel

    “Right now, we’re not in the second wave. We’re right in the middle of the first wave globally,” said Dr Mike Ryan, WHO’s executive director.

    So far the WHO has an almost perfect record of getting everything wrong. In January they told us there was nothing to worry about, then later they told people not to bother wearing masks but instead wash their hands with soap and water using the basins provided at the supermarket car park.

    Dr Mike Ryan was they guy who said they were going to be grabbing family members out of your household. He is dealing with this as if it was Ebola when actually it’s a worse than average cold that most healthy people can shrug off with only minimal annoyance. His credibility is close to zero.

  150. thefrollickingmole

    Feel good story of the day.

    Serial Papist breaks back in Corfu cliff fall on run from police

    A serial Papist plunged from a cliff and broke his back after police flushed him out of his hideout following a two-week manhunt on Corfu.

    Dimitris Aspiotis – dubbed the beast of Kavos after receiving a 53-year-sentence for siiiually assaulting six British women – had been released early from a lengthy prison term but is now wanted on fresh charges.

    On Tuesday the 47-year-old was under armed guard in Corfu’s hospital after breaking his back and suffering multiple wounds in the 200-metre fall from a seaside cliff as he sought to evade arrest as officers closed in. It took the fire brigade and other emergency services three hours to extract him from the remote ravine into which he had fallen.

  151. thefrollickingmole

    Without link as it has the “R” word in it.

    Feel good story of the day.

    Serial Papist breaks back in Corfu cliff fall on run from police

    A serial Papist plunged from a cliff and broke his back after police flushed him out of his hideout following a two-week manhunt on Corfu.

    Dimitris Aspiotis – dubbed the beast of Kavos after receiving a 53-year-sentence for siiiually assaulting six British women – had been released early from a lengthy prison term but is now wanted on fresh charges.

    On Tuesday the 47-year-old was under armed guard in Corfu’s hospital after breaking his back and suffering multiple wounds in the 200-metre fall from a seaside cliff as he sought to evade arrest as officers closed in. It took the fire brigade and other emergency services three hours to extract him from the remote ravine into which he had fallen.

  152. Mater

    I reckon I should put you on commission.
    Every time you post slabs of my memoir here, I sell a book or two.

    No need for that, Bob. It’s my absolute pleasure to expose you to the wider audience.
    Keep your money. Consider it part of your much demanded “financial apology from the ignoramuses who voted Coalition from 1960 until 1972” and “their descendants”.

  153. egg_

    And while Norman Swan parrots on about a deadly Third Wave, (NSW CMO) Chant reckons it’s all over.

    A bit late to the realisation, but better late than never.

    It ain’t over till Kochie declares it’s over?

  154. Maj

    It seems Amy Cooper of Franklin Templeton has been fired

    There are no good people in that story.

    Horrid behaviour by everyone.

    Look, it was funny watching her loose her shit, and her crazy frenzied phone call to the police ridiculous, but lost her job?

    A bit like watching a movie – you don’t see it as a camera filming something, you just see what is filmed. Similarly it is easy to watch the video of her going to pieces and ignore the guy filming. He kept filming because he enjoyed making her squirm like a lizard pinned to a board. And why did he feel the need to film her letting her dog off the leash anyway? What was it for?

    Unpleasant banshee she may well be, but to lose her job? And this will follow her around for a long time. What are her chances of getting another job any time soon?

    Phone cameras plus doxxing.

    Revolting.

    I don’t agree with what she did.

    I don’t think she is a good person.

    But this is another example of a threat of a consumer boycott and the fear of brand damage to an employer being used to deprive a person of their employment and income due to their words and/or actions in their private life well outside of the workplace.

    If this is allowed, and even cheered on by some groups, it will entrench an employer’s right to control an employee’s private life.

    If this is OK, then Israel Folau could have been legally fired.

    If this is OK, then it was right IBM exec Mark Allaby was pressured to resigned under duress from the board of the (Christian) Lachlan Macquarie Institute so he could keep his day job and provide for his family.

    If this is OK, then the ADF was within its rights to fire Bernard Gaynor for views he expressed outside the service.

    If this is OK, then the Medical Board was within its rights to deregister Dr Jereth Kok from practising medicine for his Facebook posts.

  155. shatterzzz

    mh, thanks am fine. Just heard ABC RN reporting on the Afghan ‘village idiot’ killing. May have misheard as was in the half dream room, but pretty sure they said he was beaten by a patrol two years prior to the one that shot him. That snippet does seem a bit coincidental.
    The report on the ABC news site states he was badly beaten by the Taliban, a couple of years earlier, and he never really recovered.

  156. Roger

    It took the fire brigade and other emergency services three hours to extract him from the remote ravine into which he had fallen.

    If only they’d consulted an economist on the value of his life they might’ve saved themselves a lot of trouble and the Greek tax payer a lot of money. Still, justice must be served.

  157. OldOzzie

    Davey Boy
    #3465079, posted on May 26, 2020 at 9:16 pm
    Another truck driver in Victoria who knocked off a member of the police
    Truck driver, who knew brakes were faulty when he killed off-duty police officer, sentenced to four years’ jail

    A pertinent related article
    Victorian police discover the joys of multiculturalism.

    Davey Boy from Victorian police discover the joys of multiculturalism above

    Okay, so why is the fact that the truck driver of Indian ethnicity important? Well, consider what I wrote on this exact topic almost a year ago.

    But it’s what’s not being said that is instructive as to a rather large indicator of the cause of the carnage on our roads. For Victoria is the preferred settling place of choice for the hundreds of thousands of Indian immigrants that reach our shores every year. It seems that nobody has given any consideration to the effect on the road toll of importing huge numbers of third world immigrant invaders who are already in possession of a valid driving license from their countries of origin. In order to get a driving license in these countries one simply has to pay a bribe. And Australian state governments honor these licenses. In fact, there is not a single country in the world that issues a driving license that is not honored in Australia and subsequently converted into a valid Australian driving license on request …

    … The reason for this state of affairs is the fact that Australia is a driving license laundering service for the third world. We have no standards that we impose on the people immigrating here as regards to their driving qualifications, and as a result we also have no requirements as to their actual driving abilities. After all, such a requirement would be racist and we can’t be accused of that modern mortal sin.

    Hence the inherent stubbornness of the road toll not to follow bureaucratic instructions to decrease. Third world peasants have a tendency to drive like third world peasants. Unfortunately they do not follow the magic dirt theory of civic nationalism when they arrive and suddenly all become Mark Webber. It seems that those western values which are supposedly just a system that can be easily learned do not extend to magically inheriting civic nationalist driving skills.

    But wait, there’s more.

    This has knock on effects in other aspects as well, not just the road toll or the worthlessness of our driving qualifications. Consider truck driving, a career of choice for many young working class Australian men. The cost to get a full truck driving license in Australia runs into the thousands of dollars. It’s a significant barrier to entry for men who traditionally have that much money to invest in their own professional education. But dodgy truck driving licenses from countries such as India are honored in Australia. Which is why so many commercial trucks in Melbourne are now being driven by Indian immigrants. Of course, the prog left will fob this off as simply yet another example of a job that native Australians don’t want to do which is why we have to import all of the foreigners. But of course this is a giant lie; Australians do want to do these jobs but they’re simply being priced out of the market, not only in wages but in the qualifications required to get the jobs in the first place.

    And finally, just for good measure:

    But the authorities cannot dare approach their obsession with the national road toll from this perspective; to do so would be career suicide. Just the thought alone that all these millions of third world immigrants, might, just might be having an effect on the driving population at large is complete anathema to them. Perhaps if they started releasing the road toll and criminal vehicle negligence figures by race we might gain a clearer understanding of the underlying problem.

    Not going to happen though when your national religion is multiculturalism.

    It appears now that their beloved multiculturalism has helped to cause the worst day in Victorian police history. What a way for the curry chicken to come home to roost.

  158. Roger

    Maj, I don’t think anyone here believes she should have lost her job.

  159. Dr Faustus

    In Useful Idiot news:

    WHO appreciates China’s openness to joint efforts to identify source of COVID-19

    GENEVA, May 25 (Xinhua) — The World Health Organization (WHO) said on Monday that it appreciates China’s openness to joint efforts by the international science community to identify the source of the virus, and that such a scientific mission should consist of “the right mix of scientific experts from a multinational perspective.”

    “So I think we will be very pleased to continue for those discussions. I don’t believe there is a date yet for a scientific mission, but we will be looking forward to doing that as so on as possible and with the right mix of scientific experts from a multinational perspective to join such a team,” he [Dr Michael Ryan] said.

    Dr Ryan appears to be fluent in Chinglish.

  160. dover_beach

    Incredible – but it’s at the extreme end of a continuum of neglect, disregard and devaluing of people with disabilities.
    At the other end of that same continuum, we observe individuals who use terms like “retard” and “spaz” as insults posted on websites.

    Indeed, and in between we have those that legitimate the targeting of Downs syndrome and other human beings to routinely be targeted for death by mothers and fathers and their doctors and the broader society doesn’t bat an eyelid, and where a former human right’s advocate could divulge her abandoning her child because the emotional investment in caring for her wouldn’t be worth the return in a mainstream publication without expecting this to horrify the public at large to any significant extent. Quite incredible.

  161. Roger

    …such a scientific mission should consist of “the right mix of scientific experts from a multinational perspective.

    “the right mix” reflecting a “multinational perspective”

    Sounds like the fix is in.

  162. OldOzzie

    rickw
    #3465127, posted on May 26, 2020 at 9:54 pm
    Cool machine:

    rickw

    Incremental Sheet Forming (ISF) Machine

    Impressive, but pretty slow process, but as it says

    Eurecat

    We have develop a new incremental sheet forming machine for prototyping and manufacturing singular parts or short series of metal in complex shapes. Unlike conventional processes, the main advantage of ISF is that does not require investment into costly tools, suchs as dies.

    Would be perfect for high quality restoration or creating new/old cars

  163. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    No need for that, Bob. It’s my absolute pleasure to expose you to the wider audience.

    Dunno. Number’s book would be about the only title about the Australian involvement in Vietnam that I’ve never bothered to read.

  164. mh

    Breitbart

    Over 40 people were shot, ten fatally, over Memorial Weekend in gun-controlled Chicago. Local news reports the shootings and deaths came despite a stay-at-home order.

    The Chicago Sun-Times reports an approximate number of shooting victims at 48, fatal and non-fatal combined.

  165. Mother Lode

    I reckon I should put you on commission.
    Every time you post slabs of my memoir here, I sell a book or two.

    What people here are going to buy it?

    Especially more than once.

    Numbers must be aware of a vast number of lurkers among whom there are those who would buy his book – and how many must there there be that want to read Catallaxy that there is a proportion of misery-guts no-hopers that would be tempted to by it.

    Sinc, the Cat is a monster!

  166. Boambee John

    Every time you post slabs of my memoir here, I sell a book or two.

    Great. You will be able to afford the bridge I have for sale!

  167. Boambee John

    Consider it part of your much demanded “financial apology from the ignoramuses who voted Coalition from 1960 until 1972” and “their descendants”.

    Bin chicken wants vengeance even “unto the seventh generation”?

  168. Bruce of Newcastle

    Carla Wilshire, CEO of the Migration Council Australia, said the numbers were unacceptable, even with the constraints of a pandemic.

    Looks like the big whites have moved from the Timor Sea to the Mediterranean Sea:

    Terrifying great white shark measuring up to 20ft spotted circling boat off Italian coast (26 May)
    Sorry hungry sharkies, the restaurant off of Ashmore Reef has been closed down.

  169. candy

    He kept filming because he enjoyed making her squirm like a lizard pinned to a board.

    As bullies like to do to smaller more fragile targets – because they can.

  170. H B Bear

    SloMo and the Lieborals stick their heads in the IR noose again. Expect another Workchoices election. What is this – the 3rd or 4th?

  171. Struth

    Just the thought alone that all these millions of third world immigrants, might, just might be having an effect on the driving population at large is complete anathema to them.

    No.
    The question to ask is, does this grow your department?
    Does this policy require more funding for your department?
    And best of all, does this policy require more regulation and control of the population by your department?

    This trucking article is written as if the government doesn’t want the large road toll it actively pursues.
    It’s just a bugger some of their own have now paid the price, and become part of the road toll the great unwashed have died for, so as to promote government growth and power, for years.

  172. Sinc, the Cat is a monster!

    Looking back on it, the most successful promotion has been Michael Smith’s apology (there was a surge after that) and posting here.
    The adage “there’s no such thing as bad publicity” rings true.
    Getting it reviewed in the US has also helped with sales of the digital version.
    The Yanks go apeshit on material about the Australian experience in Vietnam.

  173. H B Bear

    …such a scientific mission should consist of “the right mix of scientific experts from a multinational perspective.

    “the right mix” reflecting a “multinational perspective”

    Sounds like the fix is in.

    Yep – Chinese African client states with big Belt and Road debts

  174. Ed Case

    SloMo and the Lieborals stick their heads in the IR noose again. Expect another Workchoices election. What is this – the 3rd or 4th?

    Link?
    What have they done now?

  175. John Brumble

    People shot in Chicago?

    What could possibly go wrong with millions of bored teens?
    https://www.espn.com.au/nba/story/_/id/29004540/coronavirus-stopped-basketball-america

    Haven’t they heard from Janette Young that the virus magically knows if you’re in school for essential services?

    Note: The report states that Chicago has not taken down any hoops. Aside from this not being entirely true – there just isn’t a city-wide program to do so- the devil is in the details. When they say “the district is constantly monitoring activity in our parks and would take such action to help enforce social distancing if necessary,” what they mean is “actual games aren’t allowed and you can be damn sure we’ll include a full drug search and identity check if we find one happening”.

  176. Des Deskperson

    ‘Maj, I don’t think anyone here believes she should have lost her job.’

    Indeed, but one can understand, in the US context, that a firm, particularly one with African-American clients and customers, might have a problem with an employee wanting to sic the cops onto an African-American.

    I would also suggest, again in the US context, that her out of office actions are directly and considerably more offensive than any actions of Folau or Gaynor.

  177. Mater

    The adage “there’s no such thing as bad publicity” rings true.
    Getting it reviewed in the US has also helped with sales of the digital version.
    The Yanks go apeshit on material about the Australian experience in Vietnam.

    I take it you were “writing for an audience” in producing your book, in order to achieve this.

    From one of the reviews:

    I was especially interested in the comments he makes about the ARVN being not good soldiers and that there were “some very good American units.”

    Yet here, on the Cat, we get:

    1735099
    #622041, posted on October 31, 2012 at 5:58 am

    This is a non-post about a non-story. Since when is it noteworthy for GIs to successfully complete a mission?
    Perhaps what is noteworthy is that they found Arlington. Their navigation skills must have improved since 40 years ago.

    And

    1735099
    #622079, posted on October 31, 2012 at 7:51 am

    Jealous of the marines? You’ve got to be kidding. That’s where the jailbirds and dropouts finish up – most over rated mob in history. One digger is worth ten marines, and the cognitive capacity of the Marines I encountered rivalled many year three classes of my experience. Recall the phrase “Tell it to the Marines?”
    That has its origin in Australian experience during WW2. You could tell them anything – sell them anything.
    They probably stayed on post in Arlington because they needed someone to tell them it was raining…..

    For those of us who don’t wish to plough through your turgid shit, why don’t you give us a summary of these “very good American units”. It’d make a pleasant change from the usual anti-American tripe.

  178. C.L.

    At the other end of that same continuum, we observe individuals who use terms like “retard” and “spaz” as insults posted on websites.

    It’s not the same continuum at all.
    Leftists and nihilists support the extermination of Down syndrome human beings.
    They are worse than Nazis.

    Using words long ago abandoned as medical terms has nothing to do with it.

    The words idiot, imbecile and moron used to be medical terms.

  179. Snoopy

    Say what you like about WHO’s Tedros but at least he doesn’t look and sound three parts pissed when on television.

  180. OldOzzie

    Coronavirus: Ruby Princess passenger tests positive 10 weeks after disembarking

    NATASHA ROBINSON
    HEALTH EDITOR

    Health authorities in Queensland are scrambling to work out how a woman who was a passenger on the Ruby Princess cruise ship came to test positive to the coronavirus 10 weeks after disembarking the vessel, in a case that raises questions about the extent of testing of the passengers on board.

    Urgent contact tracing is under way in the case, with the state’s Health Department attempting to rule out the possibility that the Cairns woman acquired the infection elsewhere in the community.

    That was unlikely, according to Queensland Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk. “We’re monitoring this case very closely to work out if it’s directly related to the Ruby Princess or whether it has been ­acquired in Cairns some other way, but at the moment we’re thinking that it is from the Ruby Princess,” Ms Palaszczuk said.

    The Queensland Health ­Department provided no information on whether the woman was in a travelling party on the Ruby Princess with others who had also acquired the infection.

    Infectious diseases experts said that was ­likely, however, and it was probably not a case of the virus “lying dormant”.

    One scenario was that one or more people from the woman’s travelling party had contracted COVID-19, possibly displaying no symptoms, and then passed the disease on to the woman, either ­directly or via a chain of transmission between several people. That would mean there would be back-to-back incubation periods that stretched for several weeks.

    The incubation period for COVID-19 is usually 14 days or less, but scientific literature out of China has reported cases in which the incubation period was as long as 27 days. In addition, people can be sick with COVID-19 for weeks, and are infectious as long as they are displaying symptoms.

    When NSW Health officials boarded the Ruby Princess when it docked on March 8, they did not order testing for all passengers on board the ship, only for those who with respiratory symptoms.

    Hundreds of passengers from the Ruby Princess contracted the virus and 22 have died. More than 200 crew were also infected.

    “This case just highlights the risk of undetected community transmission happening because somebody who either had very mild symptoms or a very long ­asymptomatic period, or a mild ­infectious period, can get missed,” said Kirby Institute head of bio­security Raina MacIntyre.

    “In my view, everyone on board a cruise ship where there is COVID should be tested,” she said. “We know from the Diamond Princess, for example, that they tested everyone and about half of the people who were infected had no symptoms.

    “I think the lesson to learn from that is if we ever have another cruise ship docked on our shores with people with COVID, everybody on board should be tested.”

    As well as the possibility that the latest Queensland case acquired the infection from someone in her travelling party, there was another potential explanation for the late diagnosis, according to Professor MacIntyre.

    “The other possibility is that she was infected on the ship and developed an asymptomatic infection, then it became worse and she started developing symptoms.”

    University of Queensland vir­ologist Ian Mackay said it was unlikely the virus had laid dormant before the woman displayed symptoms and tested positive.

    “I don’t think it would be likely. I’d say they have acquired it from someone else who was related to the boat,” he said.

  181. Ed Case

    I would also suggest, again in the US context, that her out of office actions are directly and considerably more offensive than any actions of Folau or Gaynor.

    Some giant bails her up in a park and tells her ”… you may not like what i’m going to do”, causing her to ring for the Gendarmes is offensive?
    Seriously?

  182. Infidel Tiger King

    New York is helluva town. White and black ultra-liberals go at each other in a park in a display of Uber Karenism and then one of them gets doxxed by her dog walker, and loses her job at her woke firm and the dog shelter steals back the dog she rescued!

    Burn that city to the ground.

  183. Infidel Tiger King

    Some giant bails her up in a park and tells her ”… you may not like what i’m going to do”, causing her to ring for the Gendarmes is offensive?
    Seriously?

    She was so scared she took off her mask and charged him.

    There are no good people in this story.

    Awful slice of woke humanity.

  184. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Recall the phrase “Tell it to the Marines?”
    That has its origin in Australian experience during WW2. You could tell them anything – sell them anything.

    That phrase actually had it’s origin in the days of King Charles II.

  185. Mark A

    numbers

    Having read some of your comments here I cannot see why exposure here would sell more books.
    The opposite would be a safer bet.

    Other than a few, not many regulars or visitors agree with your views, so why would they subject themselves to more of it in a condensed form?

  186. OldOzzie

    Van Badham came up with a bad’un while working out on her propadana bike

    CUT & PASTE

    When online conservatives mocked Victorian Premier and Chinese communist asset Daniel Andrews as “Dictator Dan”, Guardian Australia schoolmarm Vanessa Badham read the riot act to her Twitter followers. “Friends and fans of Daniel Andrews: please do not share the stupid hashtag the Tories are desperate to pin on him, even to condemn it,” Badham ordered. “This man had fought for our safety — he deserves praise and respect, not unwitting participation in a propadana exercise.”

    Perhaps Badham has been working out on a propadana exercise bike during the lockdown. President Don­ald Trump also has been busy. The New York Times, April 1:

    The New York Times analysed every word Mr Trump spoke at his White House briefings and other presidential remarks on the virus — more than 260,000 words — from March 9, when the outbreak began leading to widespread disruptions in daily life, through mid-April.

    For a masthead with a legendary record of inventing news stories, Cut & Paste is surprised it missed the fact not all 260,000 words were real. Evening Standard, March 4:

    Donald Trump has added to his growing list of invented words as he described launching “the great American comeback” with “vivor” during a major speech.

    Another. USA Today, May 31, 2018:

    Among all the words Trump has brought into the English lexicon, it’s hard to find one more bizarre than “covfefe”. It first appeared in a late-night tweet Trump posted in May that read simply, “Despite the constant negative press covfefe”. Most observers assumed the word was a typo and that the tweet would be taken down, but it inexplicably stayed up …

    He not only comes up with words, he can invent an epistle. National Public Radio, January 18, 2016:

    “We’re going to protect Christianity. I can say that. I don’t have to be politically correct,” he thundered at the beginning of his speech at the conservative evangelical university. Then he moved on to cite: “Two Corinthians 3:17, that’s the whole ballgame … Is that the one you like?” Trump asked. “Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.”

    That’s nothing. This bloke can come up with entire countries. Business Insider Australia, December 1, 2017:

    In September, at an event with African leaders, Trump twice referred to the fictitious nation of “Nambia”. Observers assumed he was combining the names of two real African countries, Zambia and Namibia. The White House later clarified Trump was talking about Namibia.

    Mind you, a predecessor manufactured a new people. Boston’s SouthCoast Today, September 29, 1999:

    “If the East Timorians decide to revolt, I’m sure I’ll have a statement.” (George W. Bush) does not even know the Timorese are not called Timorians. I wonder if he is aware where East Timor is located on the map.

  187. Dr Faustus

    Sounds like the fix is in.

    Comrade Pangolin.
    In the Wet Market.
    With the Horseshoe Bat.

  188. Stimpson J. Cat

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ….Catallaxy is completely stifling FREE SPEECH, and I, as President, will not allow it to happen!
    7:40 AM · May 27, 2020

  189. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Looking back on it, the most successful promotion has been Michael Smith’s apology (there was a surge after that) and posting here.

    From Number’s own link

    1735099 said…

    I did not ask you to promote my book.
    I asked for an apology and for the comment to be removed.
    You have done neither.

    Instead you have sought to smear my motives in making the comment in the first place by insinuating that it is a cheap form of book promotion.
    It seems that you are so habitually in the habit of smearing that you are incapable of anything else.
    My request remains.
    Do you have the integrity to oblige?
    Reply Thursday, 09 January 2014 at 12:10 PM

  190. Des Deskperson

    ‘Some giant bails her up in a park and tells her ”… you may not like what i’m going to do”, causing her to ring for the Gendarmes is offensive?
    Seriously?’

    She gratuitously used the racial descriptor ‘African American’. In the American context, like it or not, and in that particular situation, the use of the term is certain to be perceived, particularly by African Americans, as not only offensive but downright dangerous.

  191. Mater

    Instead you have sought to smear my motives in making the comment in the first place by insinuating that it is a cheap form of book promotion.

    And yet, from his own blog…

    Unknown‬ said…
    A great speech, will be up there for some time. And yet where are you? have you abandoned Cat or have you been “erased’ in the classic Stalinist tradition?
    7 November 2014 at 14:00

    1735099‬ said…
    I posted on the Cat to foster outrage, get noticed and sell my book.
    Mission accomplished!

    Gee, how could MS possibly misinterpret Bob’s motives???

  192. Stimpson J. Cat

    New Zealand-born Mr Dunn, 43, has been charged with his daughter’s murder, allegedly asking paramedics who arrived at his house: “I’m in trouble, aren’t I?”

    And there it is.

  193. calli

    She was so scared she took off her mask and charged him.

    If I was truly frightened, I’d have run like a hare and screamed blue murder. It’s not that secluded.

    She should not have lost her job over it. A bridge too far.

    And he reckoned he had dog treats in his pocket. Hmmmm. I wonder if he was looking for a setup to upload and go viral for luverly money? It was funny, but turned sinister very quickly.

  194. OldOzzie

    Janice Dean Has a Great Question That Gov. Cuomo Needs to Answer for All Americans

    So unlike what they accuse Trump of, Cuomo actually did downplay it, which is why he took no substantive actions about it until the middle of March.

    Dean also had an interesting question for Cuomo: what just happened to the March 25 order with Cuomo’s name on it that had been on the New York State Department of Health website? Suddenly, it appears to have disappeared.

  195. Roger#3465376, posted on May 27, 2020 at 9:05 am
    Maj, I don’t think anyone here believes she should have lost her job.

    Put me in the “of a mixed view” camp on this one.
    Her indisputable public conduct (recorded on video) sends a message that should concern any employer.
    A prudent boss would at the very least be keeping an eye on her.

    The baying mob? They can GFYS.
    Give in to them & you’ve lost control of your business.

  196. calli

    Karen on Karen warfare appears to confirm what all the Karens know – that toxic masculinity wins every time.

  197. OldOzzie

    Boom: Kayleigh McEnany Dropkicks Chris Wallace Over Suggestion That Journalists Shouldn’t Be Questioned

    “No I never questioned the religious beliefs of the press,” McEnany responded. “Many of our journalists are great men and women of faith and differing faiths, whether it be the Jewish, Christian faith, the Muslim faith. What I was saying is, I was asked 11 questions as to why churches would be allowed to reopen. It was a bit peculiar to be asked these 11 questions in a row and for the onus and the focus solely to be on why churches are essential, I’ve never been asked why a liquor store was essential so I was merely pointing that out.”

    “Journalists are not above being questioned themselves,” she said. “Journalism is a great and noble profession but there’s been a dearth of journalists asking the real questions for President Obama, the criminal leak of Michael Flynn’s identity, who leaked that identity, the dossier used to launch a three year investigation into this president to spy on his campaign why aren’t those questions being asked?”

    “It’s journalistic malpractice not to ask those questions,” McEnany concluded.

  198. Robber Baron

    Bernard Salt has spoken!
    Straight from CPA Australia….“Bernard Salt predicts staircase recovery for Australia post-pandemic
    What does Australia look like post-pandemic? Not just economically, but socially, culturally and in workplaces? While many commentators recoil from these questions, Bernard Salt AM, Managing Director of The Demographics Group, believes this is what CEOs and boards need to be talking about. Discover what Australia might look like, why accounting skills are crucial, and Salt’s best advice for young professionals.”

    I refuse to read another word.

  199. OldOzzie

    Coronavirus: Hanson lawyers give Palaszczuk deadline to open border

    ROSIE LEWIS
    REPORTER

    Lawyers working with One Nation leader Pauline Hanson have demanded Queensland Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk revoke her border ban by 4pm on Thursday and explain why the restriction is valid, or face a challenge in the High Court.

    Brisbane law firm Mahoneys also requested Queensland chief health officer Jeannette Young provide all the material she relied on to recommend closing the border.

    “We act for various persons who consider that the border ban is invalid under the Commonwealth Constitution and was not authorised by the Public Health Act 2005,” the letter to Dr Young says.

    “Because the border ban is invalid, we request that you undertake to revoke the border ban by 4pm on 28 May 2020 and otherwise undertake not to enforce it. If you do not give that undertaking, and you do not otherwise satisfy us that the border ban is valid, we expect to receive instructions to commence proceedings in the High Court of Australia seeking a declaration that the border ban is invalid.”

    Mahoneys said there was no legitimate purpose to the border ban, especially as it applied to interstate Australians regardless of which state or territory they came from (including states with no active coronavirus cases).

    The law firm pointed out other states and territories had successfully managed COVID-19 without a border ban, which they said discriminated against interstate residents.

    “Every day that the border ban remains in place, it is doing irreparable harm to families and businesses in Queensland and other parts of the nation. The border ban is inflicting this harm at a time when the people of Queensland and Australia are already under grave personal and economic stress. Every day you delay, the greater the resultant harm is,” the letter says.

    If Senator Hanson proceeds with the constitutional challenge against Queensland’s border closure, it will be the second case in the High Court after businessman Clive Palmer lodged documents on Monday fighting Western Australia’s interstate travel restrictions.

    Section 92 of the Constitution states freedom of movement among the states “shall be absolutely free” but the High Court has made exceptions on health grounds.

    Leading constitutional lawyers believe the case for a challenge against border closures has strengthened as new coronavirus cases remain low.

    Ms Palaszczuk said she wanted to see her state open as quickly and safely as possible, with her priority getting Queenslanders working ahead of other states.

    She said there were still nearly 400 active coronavirus cases in NSW and more than 50 in Victoria but only 12 in Queensland.

    “Get your cases under control so we can open everything up,” the Queensland Labor leader said.

  200. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Gee, how could MS possibly misinterpret Bob’s motives???

    Indeed.

    Setting the record straight on 1735099 Bob Whittaker, 5 Platoon, B Company 7RAR SVN 1970
    Thursday, 09 January 2014

    I’ve just received an email from Bob Whittaker.

    Bob’s website is here.

    His website promotes his book which you can purchase at his website.

    Thank you for your service Bob, ostensibly rendered for the likes of me.

    Here is the comment from 1735099 that I published on my website this morning.

    “One of the best aspects of living in regional Queensland is that I can’t listen to the muck daily slung around by you and your pathetic excuse for a radio station.

    To think that I spent time on operational service in SVN ostensibly fighting for the likes of you.

    You are a professional smear merchant, making a living out of selling hate and lies to the highest bidder.

    Thank Christ for the ABC……”

  201. notafan

    African American

    Not convinced that is as ‘you terrible racist’ as it might seem to us outsiders looking in

    Statistically, black on white crime is an issue.

  202. Bruce of Newcastle

    Faustus wins the internets today!
    Plus an electronic visit from nice Mr Xi’s PLA Unit 61398.

  203. Infidel Tiger King

    Karenism and Corporatism. The two greatest evils we have ever faced.

  204. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Gee, how could MS possibly misinterpret Bob’s motives???

    Indeed.

    Setting the record straight on 1735099 (Numbers), 5 Platoon, B Company 7RAR SVN 1970
    Thursday, 09 January 2014

    I’ve just received an email from (Numbers).

    Bob’s website is here.

    His website promotes his book which you can purchase at his website.

    Thank you for your service Bob, ostensibly rendered for the likes of me.

    Here is the comment from 1735099 that I published on my website this morning.

    “One of the best aspects of living in regional Queensland is that I can’t listen to the muck daily slung around by you and your pathetic excuse for a radio station.

    To think that I spent time on operational service in SVN ostensibly fighting for the likes of you.

    You are a professional smear merchant, making a living out of selling hate and lies to the highest bidder.

    Thank Christ for the ABC……”

  205. egg_

    SloMo and the Lieborals stick their heads in the IR noose again. Expect another Workchoices election. What is this – the 3rd or 4th?

  206. will

    1735099
    #3465336, posted on May 27, 2020 at 8:32 am
    If only Australia had this sort of leadership:
    USA: Covid-19 deaths per 1 million = 304
    Australia: Covid-19 deaths per 1 million = 4
    USA: Firearm related deaths per 100000 = 12.27
    Australia:Firearm related deaths per 100000 = 1.2
    Our leadership is far from perfect, but it runs rings around the joke currently masquerading as American political leadership.

    and almost of of these deaths are concentrated in Democrat controlled cities, that have had Democrat dysfunctional “leadership” for decades. Almost every one of these deaths is due to incompetence and lunatic leftist ideology.

  207. OldOzzie

    WORLD DOMINATION IN A UNIDAN DISCOVERY X EXPEDITION VEHICLE

    Some people brag that their 4X4 is built like a truck. Some even call their domestic ute a truck. There’s no need to overstate with this expedition vehicle; it is a truck! The Unidan Discovery X body built on the back of this Mercedes-Benz Zetros creates a combination designed to explore the most remote places on the planet.

    Every Unidan expedition body is custom made as each customer has unique set of needs and plans for their vehicle. This Discovery X on the Zetros has 770 litres of water and 1300W of solar to charge its 600A/hr lithium batteries, which means off-grid living for an extended period of time is a reality. If running an air conditioner, the power draw is neutral with this level of solar capacity. You can expect a range of around 2000km. With these stats, this is a vehicle built for self-isolation in some spectacular locations.

  208. Ed Case

    If I was truly frightened, I’d have run like a hare and screamed blue murder. It’s not that secluded.

    She had a responsibility to the dog not to abandon it.
    Looks like she tried a Grrrl Power bluff she saw on TV and it didn’t work the way it does on TV.
    Then the guy used words which could reasonably be interpreted as a threat.
    Here’s a realistic appraisal of the situation as it has developed:
    1. Stranger bails up woman walking dog on notorious gay beat, makes unspecified threat, starts filming, tries to entice dog with food
    2. Woman is frightened, rings cops
    3. Stranger hailed as victim, hero
    4. Woman doxxed by former employee, sacked by employers
    Perhaps it’s just me, but there seems to be something evil about this sequence of events

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