The return of the windjammers?

On the RE thread hzhousewife flagged a call from Greens to bring back sailing ships to carry biomass from the New World to the modified coal furnaces in Europe. People may be surprised to learn that sailing ships were still working some commercial routes after WW2  assisted by a Finnish requirement to spend two years under sail to qualify for senior ranks in the merchant marine service. Read more about it!

And have a look at the gallery of Australian marine art.

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17 Responses to The return of the windjammers?

  1. Hay Stockard says:

    Technology marches on. Welcome to the new world order.

  2. Professor Fred Lenin says:

    I have a Cutty Sark model ,lovely ship she was , many years ago in Sydney I saw an Indonesian training clipper in the harbour with the crew lining the rigging ,most inspiring sight. Clippers were amazing;y fast in their day . I also knew a guy who had been a crewman on a Bass Straight siling trader just before WW 2. On a rival to Polly Woodside .

  3. duncanm says:

    I hope the mortality rates on the clippers will be better.
    We better make sure they go full equality, and 50% of the crew are female.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUhKBZb7A7c

  4. Iain Russell says:

    I think Australia can take a lead here. The Syd-Hob annual celebration of the petrochemical industry could become all-natural fibres and wood event. Better still, to tackle the Obesity Scourge, the fleet could be galleys, with crews swimming out to relieve on the oars. What a spectacle!

  5. Roger W says:

    Look lovely but you wouldn’t want to work on one.
    Can’t imagine today’s snowflakes lasting 24 hours, but must admit the thought of some of those greens getting 50 lashes for insubordination tickles the imagination.

  6. stackja says:

    Roger W
    #3465525, posted on May 27, 2020 at 11:54 am

    Keel hauling?

  7. ACTOldFart says:

    If they are going to reintroduce sail, are they also going to bring back those great sailing-era traditions of Rum, Sodomy and The Lash? Given that the idea is proposed by the Greens, they would probably enjoy at least 2 of those pastimes.

  8. Bruce says:

    Tucked away in a family photo album, I still have my “souvenir postcard” from the 1970’s visit to Brisbane of that Indonesian training ship, the “Dewa Ruci” (sort-of pronounced; Dewarutji”). Indonesia also recently took delivery of a brand-new sailing trainer from a Spanish shipyard. Those who visited the international fleet of such ships that visited Australia in1988 would get the picture.

    The Dewa Ruci probably still hold the title for being the biggest ship in their navy.

    The US Navy still operates such vessels, as do quite a few other nations. Interestingly enough, many of these are “war booty” that was “liberated” from the remains of Germany, post WW1 and WW2.

    HOWEVER, wind power is not exactly practical for serious maritime trade these days. Maybe if the Eco-fascists get their wicked way and the whole planet goes all “Mad Max meets Waterworld” a lot of people will find out what “fun” it is to operate a serious and fully-loaded Barquentine or Schooner in a Force-Five-plus wind or be becalmed in the tropics for a week or two. When the wind don’t blow, the ship don’t go.

    Or are they really contemplating the return of the slave galley? That’s more their “style”, I suspect.

  9. Lee says:

    And they (Greens and climate change alarmists) call us “Luddites”!
    Somebody said that coal saved the forests of Europe from complete destruction.

  10. RobK says:

    In 2009, Wärtsilä proposed a cruiseferry that would utilise Flettner rotors as a means of reducing fuel consumption. The Finnish ferry operator Viking Line adopted the idea, with MS Viking Grace built in 2011–2012, initially without rotors.[16] A rotor system was retrofitted in 2018.[17]

    In 2014 and 2015, Norsepower installed twin rotor sails on Finnish shipping company Bore’s RoRo vessel M/V Estraden.[18] In May 2018, the 1996 built cargo ship Fehn Pollux of the German based Fehn Shipmanagement (Leer) was fitted with an 18m long Flettner rotor of the EcoFlettner type at the front.[19]

    In 2018, Norsepower started testing the rotor concept with the world’s biggest shipping company, Maersk. The Maersk Pelican, an LR2 class tanker, has been fitted with two Norsepower Rotor Sails in readiness for trials.[20] [21]

    The MV Afros (IMO 9746803) bulk carrier has operated 4 movable rotors over a year with good results.[22][23][24]

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotor_ship

  11. Gyro Cadiz says:

    If they are going to reintroduce sail, are they also going to bring back those great sailing-era traditions of Rum, Sodomy and The Lash? Given that the idea is proposed by the Greens, they would probably enjoy at least 2 of those pastimes.

    Hmm. True dat.

    Might also be a misunderstanding of Greens real meaning here.

    After all, ‘windjammer’ is also a synonym for homosexual………..

  12. will says:

    In 2018, Norsepower started testing the rotor concept with the world’s biggest shipping company, Maersk. The Maersk Pelican, an LR2 class tanker, has been fitted with two Norsepower Rotor Sails in readiness for trials.[20] [21]

    The MV Afros (IMO 9746803) bulk carrier has operated 4 movable rotors over a year with good results.[22][23][24]

    The MAERSK PELICAN seems to have lost it rotors.

    The MV Afros was not so unfortunate.

  13. Squirrel says:

    This is what the Greens really want –

    https://dictionaryofsydney.org/entry/windmills_of_sydney

  14. RobK says:

    “During the one-year trial period on Maersk Pelican, crew and operators have reported positively on the usability, safety, and performance of the Rotor Sails in all conditions,” Tommy Thomassen, Chief Technical Officer at Maersk Tankers, as reported by World Maritime News.


    http://www.oldsaltblog.com/2019/11/update-one-year-on-rotor-sail-savings-on-maersk-pelican-on-target/http://www.oldsaltblog.com/2019/11/update-one-year-on-rotor-sail-savings-on-maersk-pelican-on-target/

  15. Hay Stockard says:

    If any of those ship things need their main brace spliced I’m their man.

  16. Another Ian says:

    Eric Newby wrote about being on a clipper in the last grain race Australia to UK just before WW2. You needed a head for heights and a few other things.

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