Do people generally know what the initials CCP stands for?

The initials CCP stand for Communist Party of China.

The CPC is officially organised on the basis of democratic centralism, a principle conceived by Russian Marxist theoretician Vladimir Lenin which entails democratic and open discussion on policy on the condition of unity in upholding the agreed upon policies….

The CPC is committed to communism and continues to participate in the International Meeting of Communist and Workers’ Parties each year. According to the party constitution, the CPC adheres to Marxism–LeninismMao Zedong Thoughtsocialism with Chinese characteristicsDeng Xiaoping Theory, the Three Represents, the Scientific Outlook on Development, and Xi Jinping Thought. The official explanation for China’s economic reforms is that the country is in the primary stage of socialism, a developmental stage similar to the capitalist mode of production. The command economy established under Mao Zedong was replaced by the socialist market economy under Deng Xiaoping, the current economic system, on the basis that “Practice is the Sole Criterion for the Truth”.

The government of China is a communist tyranny. It is complete nonsense to believe that the majority of the Chinese population lives in any other way than in poverty and are politically repressed. If you would like to see alternate ways in which Chinese people can order their social, political and economic lives on their own, see Taiwan, Singapore and while you can, Hong Kong.

Everyone would like to see China prosper. But because and so long as they manage their economy under the idiotic guidance of Leninist principles, they will remain a poor country. But if they were content to sit home and ruin their own people it would be a tragedy but beyond that, of little concern to us, along the same lines as North Korea. But they are a concern because they have ambitions that stretch beyond their own borders. Why that is and what they want are major questions today. How to respond and deal with the CCP government of China are the next set of questions. Every time I hear some local politician defend China, I have very dark thoughts about their intellect and then much worse. There is much to fear from modern China and not a thing to learn from either their political or economic structures.

There was then this the other day (May 24): Chinese Troops Cross Into India, Fortify Positions. And then there was the photo of these people being arrested in Hong Kong today.

Good luck to them, but also good luck to us if we don’t recognise danger early enough to do something while we can.

AND LET ME ADD THIS FROM INSTAPUNDIT:

CHINA SHOWS ITS TRUE TOTALITARIAN COLORS ON HONG KONG: It was always a fable, Issues & Insights reminds us this morning, the idea that by growing closer in trade with the West, Red China would grow more like us politically. Instead, the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) shrewdly and in so many ways took advantage of our abundant naivety to grow their power and resources.

Now, as they move troops into the disputed border area with India (which is, let us not forget, a nuclear power), lawlessly expands its military presence in the South China Sea, clamps steadily tighter its totalitarian grasp on Hong Kong, moves invasion forces nearer Taiwan, and threatens the U.S. in manifold ways, America faces a new Cold War. We can either face this reality or continue blindly with our liberal globalist fables.

12Posted at 6:59 am by Mark Tapscott 

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31 Responses to Do people generally know what the initials CCP stands for?

  1. mh

    Every time I hear some local politician defend China, I have very dark thoughts about their intellect and then much worse.

    Not just any local politician. We are talking about Prime Ministers, Federal Ministers, State Premiers, and party leaders.

    Think Keating, Turnbull, Bob Carr, Daniel Andrews, Andrew Robb, John Hewson, the list is staggering.

  2. stackja

    Lenin had his useful idiots. X1 has his.

  3. Roger

    Everyone would like to see China prosper. But because and so long as they manage their economy under the idiotic guidance of Leninist principles, they will remain a poor country.

    Not only that – although it is bad enough – there is also China’s nationalism and militarism to contend with.

    That our political and business classes – Hi Dan! Hi Twiggy! – have been so blinded to China’s real nature because of the dollars to be made from trading with them does not reflect well on their judgement.

  4. Roger

    Lenin had his useful idiots. X1 has his.

    One of those listed by mh is an idiot; the others are venal and perfidious rats.

  5. Pyrmonter

    @ mh

    That would be the Turnbull who employed John Garnaut? There were many failings and too few successes under Turnbull, but softness on China wasn’t generally a problem; contrast that with the previous experience, and the influence exerted by Robb.

    @ SKates

    It’s a ‘communist’ party, but … is it communist? It doesn’t look like the communists about whom I read in the 1970s, or the GDR I visited in the 1980s. If anything, a sort of populist fascism? Little better (it delivers more goodies for its people; and can arm itself better) but we should try to get labels right, so as to understand our enemies better.

  6. Roger

    It’s a ‘communist’ party, but … is it communist? It doesn’t look like the communists about whom I read in the 1970s, or the GDR I visited in the 1980s.

    Don’t be fooled. By that time orthodox Marxism-Leninism in practice was moribund, a whited sepulchre. The Chinese Communists are implementing Lenin’s state capitalism phase of the revolution, which he outlined in 1921 as a temporary expedient in the wake of the Russian civil war.

  7. Bruce of Newcastle

    Yes. Except that China is now fascist.

    It is important to understand that China is a fascist dictatorship. The term “fascist” is now thrown around with such carelessness that it has lost most of its meaning outside the offices of a few historians or political science professors. But fascism, in its original early twentieth century incarnation, meant a political system defined by three attributes—authoritarianism, ethnonationalism, and an economic model in which capitalism co-existed with large state-directed industries and partnerships between the government and corporations.

    China is an ethnonationalist, corporatist, authoritarian state.

    Of course the Left defines words to mean exactly what they want them to mean, so I’m happy to keep on calling it the CCP not the Chinese Nazi Party. But then the fight in WW2 between the Nazis and CCCP was one of fractious brothers, not opposites.

  8. Astrid van den Akker-Luttmer

    It is terrifying for me to see the Victoria Labour Party so easily getting away with getting into debt to China. How on earth is this allowed? Sooner or later interests rise again, Oh a delay of payments, then getting the pressure on; pay now or else. Delay in payments? then China simply takes the Victorian assets. Australia getting more and more under the thump by China or is owned by China and ruled by China. Why is there not enough protest against all this. Politicians are NOT elected to play in the cards of foreign forces. I don’t understand either why Australians are so easily convinced to get the COVID-19 app on their phones. Is our Australian Government already infiltrated by the Chinees? People are just handing over their privacies. And NO the information obtained is not safely stored for the Australian health department only. The national identity card has been a hot issue, yet with these easily accepted software applications, (our temperature is just shared) we will soon see that we are getting chipped and nobody can buy or see a doctor or whatever without that type of identification. Far worse to come I can see we are all getting barcoded!!!!!! We are NOT cattle. Unless we stand up for our individual rights, or privacy and NO foreigners getting their hands on our data/details. These software applications checking our temperatures (and soon anything under our skin) and putting one in control of someone else, should have never ever been allowed in the public sphere.

  9. Pyrmonter

    @ Astrid

    Victorian Labor were elected and re-elected in the face of a fractious and often incompetent coalition, many of whose members have spent too much time playing at internal ‘culture wars’ and too little engaging with the unengaged voters they seek to represent. It is continuing. It is a disgrace. When even states like NSW, Tas and SA (where Labour has been the dominant party since the WWII in the first two cases, and 1965 in the second) can manage half-competent governments, it is time the Victorian Libs pulled their weight.

  10. nb

    Heaven is eliminating the CCP.
    Skies darken over Beijing.

  11. John Bayley

    I don’t understand either why Australians are so easily convinced to get the COVID-19 app on their phones.

    At a time when a large proportion of the world’s population happily surrender their entire private lives to the likes of Facebook, so it can be packaged up and sold to the highest bidder (or to the government, if they come asking), why are you surprised?

    You know, if you have nothing to hide, then what’s the problem? /s – just in case….

  12. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    nukem dano

  13. Tel

    But fascism, in its original early twentieth century incarnation, meant a political system defined by three attributes—authoritarianism, ethnonationalism, and an economic model in which capitalism co-existed with large state-directed industries and partnerships between the government and corporations.

    The Italians (who invented the word) were not particularly interested in ethnonationalism … although they were nationalist, they never got into any master race shenanigans. They also did not see it as a “partnership” between government and corporations, instead they saw corporations existing ONLY under the umbrella of the state, and Mussolini very clearly stated that if your corporation wants to go it alone outside the narrowly defined state interests you get screwed over … same with unions for that matter. They setup strict cartels specifically for the purpose of keeping everything under the umbrella of the state … it wasn’t a “partnership” … it was more like proxy ownership but one or two steps removed … with a sweetener for those who play along nicely.

    In many ways modern corporations, and they type of cartels that we have today are very much creations that live only under the state umbrella and that’s in all the Western nations as well as China, and Russia also. So many economic activities are tightly licensed and controlled by small groups: medicine (AMA cartel), banking and finance (Banking Act), power generation (AEMO), communications (ACMA and the compulsory union TIO), land development and management (regulatory thicket), legal advocacy (compulsory union), anything environmental (regulatory thicket), universities, science (controlled via grant money), stock exchange (ASX granted monopoly by fiat), teaching (national curriculum).

    Then there is government control over the family, and now tracking individual movement … with the help of corporations and the legal industry. There really are no limits for these people, which is why they love China so much … not because of anything intrinsically Chinese, but because China is a place to see the “progressive” dream happen a few steps ahead of ourselves. Make no mistake, they want us to follow soon afterwards. The only thing Western “Progressives” and the CCP disagree over is who will end up on top … their methods and philosophy are very similar.

  14. Infidel Tiger King

    Not just any local politician. We are talking about Prime Ministers, Federal Ministers, State Premiers, and party leaders.

    Think Keating, Turnbull, Bob Carr, Daniel Andrews, Andrew Robb, John Hewson, the list is staggering.

    Hawke, Downer…. not to mention our ChiCom loving billionaire class Forrest and Stokes etc.

  15. Hay Stockard

    It’s the Universities I worry about. Selling degrees as a process towards residence. They are shameless.

  16. The BigBlueCat

    John Bayley
    #3467542, posted on May 29, 2020 at 8:28 pm

    ….

    At a time when a large proportion of the world’s population happily surrender their entire private lives to the likes of Facebook, so it can be packaged up and sold to the highest bidder (or to the government, if they come asking), why are you surprised?

    You know, if you have nothing to hide, then what’s the problem? /s – just in case….

    I was speculating on this today – if you have the government’s COVID-19 app, and you happen to come into close contact with someone who has COVID-19, and that person turns out to be a known terrorist, does the government intend to act on the association aspect? Even if the contact is absolutely innocent and without any malice towards anyone? The cynic in me suspects that the “association” will be duly noted and the Feds will be directed to make certain visits …

    And therein lies the problem with the COVID-19 app. While the cost of freedom is eternal diligence, I don’t think that gives the government the right draw conclusions from data gleaned for one purpose and applied for another. Am I being too suspicious of the government’s intent?

    Handing over your personal data to Facebook, Google or Twitter is one thing – caveat emptor applies, but handing it over to the government is something else, especially when the government offers guarantees you suspect can be conveniently dispensed with if a certain outcome is desired.

  17. Lilliana

    Astrid van den Akker-Luttmer
    #3467470, posted on May 29, 2020 at 7:19 pm

    Pity your comment in not the front page of every media outlet in this country.

    Unfortunately too many people have been seduced by decades of prosperity into a complacent stupor. One day they will wake up and wonder how we gave our country and freedoms away.

  18. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Yes, the CCP are bunch of evil racist fascists, but why the hell do they and their noxious acolytes now have such an all pervading influence over this country? How stupid are we to have allowed this?

    If I wanted to live in fucking china I’d have moved there by now.

    P.S. astrid – paragraphs and line breaks, thanks. Whenever I see a big slab of text I scroll straight past it.

  19. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    The cynic in me suspects that the “association” will be duly noted and the Feds will be directed to make certain visits …

    To you only.

    The terrorist will remain free to go about its business.

  20. Jonesy

    I can just bet there is someone in Peking who is thinking they have got running a communist country right. Fool us for thinking that as communist china becomes more affluent within the middle class…ha! Middle class of what?…they would fight off their communist oppression for peace justice and the american way? What is happening is wholesale intellectual property theft from the west as well as russia, theft of wealth, theft of land purchased using dodgey chinese coin. All we have done is empower and pay for the expansion of a resurgent china who is also communist. They are thinking like the china of four centuries ago before the bureacrats closed the borders. With modern weapons, a dangerous situation. Fascism doesnt quite describe this form of socialism. Imperial Communism?

  21. Chris M

    Well it’s not been truly Communist for decades now, they could see that was never going to succeed.

    Now it is a Fascist state, CFP. This allows for private ownership of businesses under state command.

  22. Astrid van den Akker-Luttmer

    John Bayley #3467542 29 May 2020

    Dear John, I agree with you about Facebook sharing. I am on Facebook since mostly all my family lives overseas, Yet I have my privacy settings on Friends (Family) only. Also, it is up to each individual what they like to share. This COVID-19 app shares your personal info (in this case temperature) which you yourself not even knowing whom it is shared with!

  23. BorisG

    Politicians are NOT elected to play in the cards of foreign forces.

    People voted.

  24. Cynic of Ayr

    I see those two small girls, and I wonder what they are thinking. I suspect complete resignation.
    Even though they are probably from Hong Kong, the Chinese influence has been there all the time, under the radar, sneakily in their schools.
    My morbid sense of inevitability resigns to the possible conversation.
    “What are you going to do to us?”
    “We are going to shoot you.”
    “Oh.” Shrugs.

  25. The West, specifically the USA, created this monster as a cold war anti ussr strategy by encouraging and nurturing China’s evolution into capitalism. It was a part of an overarching cold war strategy.

    That China was still ruled by the Communist Party of China that would allow capitalism as part of a long term CPC strategy was inexplicably overlooked.

    Here is something I had written about communists running a capitalist enterprise back in the 2001 when I was in China.

    https://tambonthongchai.com/2020/05/30/wbm2001-the-private-sector-in-china/

  26. Arky

    We will be at war with china before the end of 2022.
    I have pulled my prediction back from my long held date of 2024.
    Pray to God Trump is President at the outbreak.

  27. Speedbox

    Arky
    #3468253, posted on May 30, 2020 at 2:24 pm

    I think that’s correct and possibly a little optimistic.

    South China Sea; India/China border; Taiwan; Hong Kong, Senkaku islands. Each of these are a significant flashpoint. Beyond those, there are the ‘lesser’ issues such as China/Nepal (Mt Everest claim); China/Vietnam (fishing rights and clashes); China/Antarctica (supposed research then territory claims); repeated malevolent cyber attacks and other issues. And that is without considering the economic aspects becoming pressurised.

    I read somewhere else that Xi has worked out that the West has usually been full of words but rarely takes action. Also, China has become a master of pushing up to the ‘line’ which will force the West to respond.

    Now, with the China virus has focussed world attention on China and finally (!), more people see the CCP for what they are.

    None of us can see how this will end but thank God for President Trump.

  28. Judge Dredd

    Culturally, the Chinese probably prefer Communism, and are probably best suited to it. Measuring them by our standards would be like them measuring us by theirs.
    Of course, communism is a wicked evil in the west. Then again democracy has given women the vote, abortion up to birth, gay marriage, no fault divorce, and multi-culturalism.
    No system of government is perfect, but its best to ensure the system matches the culture.

  29. Davey Boy

    光復香港
    時代革命

  30. Astrid van den Akker-Luttmer

    Adding to my comment # 3467470 29 May 2020 at 7.19 pm

    That our Australian Government is infiltrated by the Chinese is for me 100% certain. Look at the IDIOCRACY that THE UNIFORMS FOR OUR MEN AND WOMAN in the Australian Defence Forces ARE AND WILL BE MADE IN CHINA.

    These uniforms better be fully tested before our men and women are sent in for active duty IF there will be enough supply for them in the first place.

  31. John Bayley

    @Astrid van den Akker-Luttmer (#3468000):

    I am on Facebook since mostly all my family lives overseas, Yet I have my privacy settings on Friends (Family) only. Also, it is up to each individual what they like to share.

    That’s all well and good, but if you think Facebook respects your wishes and only ‘knows’ about what you choose to share, you are sadly mistaken.

    If you allow their app to your phone, for example, you are explicitly granting them access to EVERYTHING, including your phone book, calls log, text messages, e-mails, you name it.

    On your desktop/laptop, unless you are reasonably technically savvy and know how to block their site trackers, beacons, finger printing and other such techniques, they will soon know EVERYTHING about you, too.

    Facebook is worse then Google as far as privacy breaches go. They have repeatedly been caught red-handed, yet nothing much happens.

    As Zuck himself said: “They trust me. Dumb f*cks!”

    Anyone who continues to use them could easily find all of this out, but most people just don’t care.

    There are much better alternatives; as there are to Google, YouTube, Twitter, etc, but again most people don’t care.

    So why would they care about a COVID app? After all, they are convinced it will “save lives” and any evidence to prove it is not required nor asked for.

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