When words fail

Use a picture. The EU has done it again.

Although new EU regulations should pave the way for these products, European eating habits will have to change too. EURACTIV Germany reports.

Since the start of 2019, customers of the German supermarket chain Kaufland have had the choice between garlic and herb flavoured mealworms, or buffalo worms with hints of sour cream and onion.

And foods made from insects, such as chocolate bars, granola, pasta or burgers, are also appearing in other major supermarkets all over Europe.

Edible insects could play key role in cutting harmful emissions! Read all about it.

More good newsInsects rank topmost species regarding abundance in the world where, some 2111 species of them are recorded to be edible. They are known for high protein and less fat diet and are rich in calories, thiamin, riboflavin, iron, minerals that makes them perfect substitute for conventional beef.

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48 Responses to When words fail

  1. stackja

    Insects carrying what?

  2. Bruce of Newcastle

    Grubs up!

  3. Rex Anger

    Nothing new here. The NSW Department of Primary Industries put up a whole cookbook on Locusts in 2004, in the midst of a big plague. It was called Cooking with Sky Prawns.

    Sadly, it seems that the document has been memory-holed. Goolag could not produce me a link, and the DPI site itself has nothing. I remember the elder Anger having a good chortle about the matter, as he was working in the DPI at the time, though in a different field.

  4. Rex Anger

    Apparently, they’re kosher

  5. Gyro Cadiz

    Lemme ponder.

    Greens eating insects.

    Vermin eating vermin.

  6. Frank

    They are known for high protein and less fat diet and are rich in calories, thiamin, riboflavin, iron, minerals that makes them perfect substitute for conventional beef.

    Also high in that crucial bug content.

    The roach milk thing never really took off though.

  7. Rex Anger

    Best and most important consideration on the matter, dear Cats.

    From our learned friends at The Conversation, no less…

    Their ABC actually did something informative after all. Whodathunk?

  8. John Bayley

    Well eating insects is going to be major problem, seeing that according to The Guardian, “Plummeting insect numbers ‘threaten collapse of nature”…!

    You know, because of ‘climate change’.
    I thought it could have been due to that new, scary, Chinese-originated COFLY-20 virus, but apparently not!

    I suppose there’s no hope now that people will consume those few poor insects that have managed to hang in there among the environmental apocalypse…

    The full and total collapse of ‘nature’ is certain now.

    Unless maybe some expert with a new tax and laws regarding proper human/mosquito-distancing can save us all?

  9. Bruce

    Bogong moths? Or would that be “cultural appropriation?

    Fried grasshoppers feature as “bar-snacks” in places in Thailand. A bit oily, maybe due to the fryer not being hot enough, but after the fifth or sixth beer, who cares?

    Must admit I have also eaten damsel flies drowned in rice-vodka, in Viet Nam, for breakfast. Sort of “nutty” flavour with the “sting” of the rocket-fuel livening up proceedings. I got bits of damsel-fly wings stuck in my teeth, but I suspect the wings are supposed to be the “handle” for the insects body and thus, discarded.

  10. Robber Baron

    I have eaten numerous species of insects. Most taste like All Bran.

  11. feelthebern

    That’s good eatin’

  12. Insects may be good food in terms of nutrition and availability but to make that change as a form of the climate action of avoiding cattle products because of their enteric fermentation CO2 emissions is inconsistent with AGW climate change theory.

    The “human cause” argument in global warming (Anthropogenic Global Warming or AGW) is that in the industrial economy, considered to have started in the nineteenth century, humans were bringing up fossil fuels from under the ground, where they had been sequestered from the carbon cycle for millions of years, and injecting that carbon into the current account of the carbon cycle. This injection of carbon is therefore an artificial and unnatural perturbation of the carbon cycle and therefore of the climate system by way of the GHG effect of atmospheric CO2. This argument cannot be applied to natural carbon cycle flows in the current account of the carbon cycle such as the CO2 from enteric fermentation.

    For details please see
    https://tambonthongchai.com/2018/12/16/beef-and-climate-change/

  13. Rex Anger

    I will confess that I never actually tasted the last fly I ate.

    But it did have a kind of death wish, and my mouth was open at the time. The swallow was entirely reflexive…

  14. H B Bear

    Sorry. Bat’s off.

  15. Professor Fred Lenin

    The lefties who caused the Mental Institutions to close because of “liberty freedom etc” , have a lot to answer for . The former and potential inmates have infiltrated every institution , government and academic , they are even moving in on private enterprise . Its time to reopen the mental homes , there are so meny sick people in need of commitment , incarceration and treament . Wonder if there is enpough electricity for the shock therapy ? Be a bugger if we had to rely on the wind to treat the afflicted .

  16. Rex Anger

    Not at all, Prof!

    Pedal power, like the old Traeger pedal radios the RFDS once used.

    Keeps the staff fit, AND gives them both entertainment and incentive to keep pedalling…

  17. Colonel Crispin Berka

    Eating mashed up insects? That’s nuthin.
    “I heard all Tail Sectioners were lazy dogs and they all drink their own sh1t.”

  18. Gavin R Putland

    Funny how some arthropods, namely crustaceans, are regarded by us westerners as delicacies, while others are considered disgusting. Just saying.

  19. See the second response.

    https://www.skepticalscience.com/holistic_management_climate_change.htm

    Holistic Management can reverse Climate Change
    Link to this page
    What the science says…
    Select a level… Basic Advanced

    Holistic Management is not a solution to the problem of increasing carbon emissions and climate change. Soils managed holistically show no significant boost in productivity or overall storage of carbon over a long period of time. Holistic Management offers no advantage over other similar grazing techniques in use today.
    Climate Myth…

    Holistic Management can reverse Climate Change
    “Holistic management as a planned grazing strategy is able to reverse desertification and sequester atmospheric carbon dioxide into soil, reducing atmospheric carbon dioxide levels to pre-industrial levels in a period of forty years.” (Allan Savory, 2014)

    These guys are full of shit, they get hammered….

    —————————————————————————–

    I wrote a rather long detailed explanation why this rebuttal is flawed. But unfortunately it never posted.

    I don’t know why? Maybe it was too long?

    Anyway the short version is this. Oxic soils under grasslands are net sinks not sources.

    What reaction can you do to remove methane?

    So that part is completely flawed and actually improving and expanding grasslands would help lower methane, not increase it.

    The other mistake made here is in not understanding the difference between the catabolic processes of decay in the O-horizon of the soil profile and the anabolic processes of soil building in the A and B horizons of the soil profile.

    One is biomass and primarily a function of saprophytic fungi (SF) vs the other which is the liquid carbon pathway of root exudates and glomalin and primarily a function of Arbuscular Mycorrhizal Fungi (AMF).

    This makes the Roth C model not applicable at all. It simply doesn’t apply in this case. It is a very good model for biomass decay, but it and any other biomass decay model are all flawed when trying to use them for the LCP.

    Here is evidence from the past of this ecosystem function:

    Cenozoic Expansion of Grasslands and Climatic Cooling

    Gregory J. Retallack doi: 10.1086/320791

    And here is a review of how we can apply the paleo record of this ecosystem function to modern times and near future AGW mitigation.

    Global Cooling by Grassland Soils of the Geological Past and Near Future

    Gregory J. Retallack doi:10.1146/annurev-earth-050212-124001

    And here is empirical evidence of carbon sequestration rates in the field under various agricultural techniques and systems. A careful examination of the evidence with an understanding of how the Liquid Carbon Pathway functions makes it very clear which systems use the LCP and why the difference in rates seen. It also confirms that the average sequestration rate of ~5-20 tonnes CO2e/ha/yr holds true in environments tested around the world.

    Conservation practices to mitigate and adapt to climate change

    Jorge A. Delgado, Peter M. Groffman, Mark A. Nearing, Tom Goddard, Don Reicosky, Rattan Lal, Newell R. Kitchen, Charles W. Rice, Dan Towery, and Paul Salon doi:10.2489/jswc.66.4.118A

    Managing soil carbon for climate change mitigation and adaptation in Mediterranean cropping systems: A meta-analysis

    Eduardo Aguilera, Luis Lassaletta, Andreas Gattinger, Benjamín S.Gimeno doi:10.1016/j.agee.2013.02.003

    Enhanced top soil carbon stocks under organic farming

    Andreas Gattinger, Adrian Muller, Matthias Haeni, Colin Skinner, Andreas Fliessbach, Nina Buchmann, Paul Mäder, Matthias Stolze, Pete Smith, Nadia El-Hage Scialabba, and Urs Niggli doi/10.1073/pnas.1209429109

    Managing Soils and Ecosystems for Mitigating Anthropogenic Carbon Emissions and Advancing Global Food Security

    Rattan Lal doi: 10.1525/bio.2010.60.9.8

    The role of ruminants in reducing agriculture’s carbon footprint in North America

    W.R. Teague, S. Apfelbaum, R. Lal, U.P. Kreuter, J. Rowntree, C.A. Davies, R. Conser, M. Rasmussen, J. Hatfield, T. Wang, F. Wang, and P. Byc doi:10.2489/jswc.71.2.156

    Grazing management impacts on vegetation, soil biota and soil chemical, physical and hydrological properties in tall grass prairie

    W.R.Teague, S.L.Dowhower, S.A.Baker, N.Haile, P.B.DeLaune, D.M.Conover doi:/10.1016/j.agee.2011.03.009

    Please note that all of these have published results higher than this so called rebuttal claims is impossible. That’s measured results. So right there is enough to show this rebuttal is empirically wrong.

    Of course they all show other measured results much lower too. And those also have strong reasons why.

    If they are primarily using biomass decay, then the carbon sequestration is positive but much smaller than when the primary biological pathway is the LCP. So there is your empirical evidence and also your explanation why.

  20. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    Ah so, ugly fat grubs with brack bums, velly delicious!

  21. Hodor

    I don’t think insect eating will reduce emissions.
    Dung Beetles make me fart.

  22. egg_

    makes them perfect substitute for conventional beef.

    In North Korea?

  23. The world is becoming really grubby.

  24. Rafe Champion

    Thanks Legalize Sedition, that is my home ground – soil science and esp the immediate junction of plant and soil.

  25. Yarpos

    Add it to the long list of stupid thing part of humanity does in pursuit of an imaginary problem. I bet the sales are rocketing at Kaufland. A lot like the shelves of unsold vegan products during the buying panic.

    Meanwhile the grand CO2 experiment continues during lockdowns, with manmade CO2 plummeting and global CO2 stsying on trend. Why the hell would you need to eat insects ? unless of course you find them tasty. I guess at some stage someone pried an oyster of a rock , looked at it, and thought yeah that will be good to eat. So you never know.

  26. It’s not a matter of the EU recommending insects, it’s a matter of when does it become compulsory?

    I also wonder when PETA will enter into the fray to protect these poor insects?

  27. Geriatric Mayfly

    I found the Mopane grubs at the hotel buffet in Zimbabwe irresistible.

  28. theleftfootkick

    How do you want your grubs, medium rare, with or without fries, or perhaps that now should become flys?

  29. theleftfootkick

    Yeah they will be posting photos of insects splattered on windscreens.

  30. egg_

    Free range grubs or harvested?

  31. Leo G

    By 2030, every person will eat an average of 10% more meat than in 2015, according to the UN Food and Agriculture Organisation (FAO).

    No surprise, really. One group in particular, 23% of those 2030 people, would not have been eating much in 2015. They will be people aged less than 15 years in 3030.

  32. Bruce

    And a couple of other “culinary cultural appropriation”:

    Witjuti grubs.

    Honey(pot) ants such as Melophorus bagoti and Camponotus species.

  33. Leo G

    They will be people aged less than 15 years in 2030.

  34. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    What the fuck is it with collectivists and their creepy bizarre obsessions with other peoples’ eating habits?

    As for the insects, they presumably think that in any collectivist paradise that is inevitably what the lumpenproles end up being forced to subsist on.

    Anyone who advocates eating insects should be summarily executed, as a matter of principle.

  35. Chris M

    I ate these, actually quite nice. They were called silkworms in Asia, essentially the same thing when cooked.

  36. Chris M

    Anyone who advocates eating insects should be summarily executed, as a matter of principle.

    Being a Monkfish you will now off yourself? We will miss you, handsome guy.

  37. Up The Workers!

    Once upon a time, Municipal Health Inspectors would prosecute the pants off any food proprietor caught with such critters on his premises – nowadays though, you can use them to add flavour to your steaming hot bowl of Chinese bat and pangolin soup under Dodgy Dan’s “Bat Soup and Toad Initiative”.

  38. Up The Workers!

    How does one order these grubs – by the bowl, or by the Caucus?

  39. Up The Workers!
    #3467945, posted on May 30, 2020 at 10:36 am

    Once upon a time,

    Good point. Those cockroaches roaming the back-room kitchens are no longer vermin, but free range insects bred for the dining tables.

  40. Also, when a customer yells out there’s a fly in my soup, the waiter will have to add the extra additive to the bill.

  41. Up The Workers!

    Heard a conversation on the box of idiots this morning wherein a bug boffin was opining that the Peking Pox “self distancing” requirement of 1.5 metres minimum separation, might lead to a tragic extinction of all human lice, in that this is longer than human lice can physically jump from one soap-phobic Leftard dosser and derro, to another.

    Even more deaths attributable to Dodgy Dan’s “Bat Soup and Toad Initiative” with the Chinese Batman.

  42. Since mankind has been hungry to starving for much of its history, if insects were good food he would of made insects a stable diet.
    The fact that we haven’t tells me insects are not any decent sort of food.
    By the way, insects emit more methane than humans and by a long way. Why would they want to increase the population of a grub that emits more methane which is supposed to be a Greenhouse gas?

    These people are mentally sick, they really are.

  43. Cynic of Ayr

    Ah, yes, plentiful they are.
    Bison were once plentiful.
    Whales were once plentiful.
    Fish were once plentiful.
    So, I guess we can shift annihilation to another target.
    But, maybe I’m wrong. We have tried at great expense to annihilate the ants and cockroaches in our homes, and the grubs in our lawns and veggie gardens, with little real success.

  44. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Being a Monkfish you will now off yourself?

    Have you ever seen (or heard) any of my brethren advocating the eating of insects?

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  46. Hay Stockard

    Lost for words? Fuck off Goldilocks.

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