Open Forum: June 6, 2020

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  1. egg_

    By the same token, what we could call behavioral poverty helps explain how some individuals spend their lives mired in poverty and social dysfunction. Behavioral poverty is reflected in the attitudes, values, and beliefs that justify entitlement thinking, the spurning of personal responsibility, and the rejection of traditional social mechanisms of advancement. It is characterized by high self-indulgence, low self-regulation, exploitation of others, and limited motivation and effort. It can be correlated with a range of antisocial, immoral, and imprudent behaviors, including substance abuse, gambling, insolvency, poor health habits, and crime.

    Amen.

  2. Ellie

    Six-speed manual transmission. How many women drive manual nowadays?

  3. Consider why this blog is so pro Catholic.

    Read Aquinas Lao Tzu or Kong Quin Fusi.

    These are all considered *conservative* but a lot of it is very concomitant with classical liberalism. Not only that, Jesuits visiting China for the 1st time considered these belief systems to be compatible with (Catholic) Christianity.

    Apart from abberations like the woefully named *liberation* theology, the church has opposed totalitarianism consistently.

    Then we have the fact that progressivism came from US Protestantism between the US civil war and WWI.

    A certain all white social club barred Catholics from joining.
    Progressivism led to eugenics and prohibition.

  4. Old School Conservative

    1735099
    #3477229, posted on June 7, 2020 at 9:13 am
    Rowan Dean is on fire this morning.

    No, but his pants are.
    It happens a lot when you tell porkies for a living.

    Many…many lines of turgid prose in an attempt to prove Bob’s car-buying credentials, but just one smidgen of an example to prove Rowan Dean is lying – nup, nowat, zilch, zero, nada.

  5. MemoryFault

    Petet, I doubt that tge super is still worth $3 trillion after the economic vandalism of the last three months.

    It’s expressed ass two amounts, John, although I forget the actual difference in them. One is a sort of ‘consolidated’ figure, the other is a total. Prior to the meltdown they were 2.9 trillion and 3.4 trillion respectively. Now they are quoting 2.7 trillion as the ‘consolidated’ figure – a loss of 0.2 trillion, or two hundred billion dollars.

    That still leaves plenty for the politicians to “repurpose” into valuable infrastructure –
    like windfarms, tidal generators and battery storage, which is where it’s going.

    (Do I need a /sarc tag?)

  6. Ellie

    Manual = Better fuel efficiency.

  7. Cassie of Sydney

    Extraordinarily handsome and articulate African American man being interviewed on Outsiders.

  8. Farmer Gez

    Ellie
    #3477285, posted on June 7, 2020 at 9:51 am
    Six-speed manual transmission. How many women drive manual nowadays?

    Old school.
    Manuals are harder to find as the clutch loses it usefulness.
    All our big gear is CVT, hydrostatic or auto.

  9. Bundyrum

    MV, a few weeks ago Malcolm Roberts said the only opposition in Australia now is the cross benches.

  10. Ed Case

    Here’s the Official Report on the death in custody of Fay Lena Yarrie.
    Read that and weep.

  11. Ellie

    That’s what growing up in a household of boys who love their cars (and guns – for hunting) gets you.

  12. custard

    I only make my boss about $400,000 pa, total waste of space apparently. Lol.

  13. notafan

    And if everyone goes to the the manager at the same time 😂.

    What an absurdity.

    Clearly sales people should all have their title changed to manager to meet the deep seated needs of the Toowoomba Karen numpty types.

    Oh and what a materialist, forty cars in fifty years.

    So much green cred too.

  14. notafan

    Sales people

    Normally I would ask if that includes check out operators at supermarkets but then I remembered the hermatically sealed car (open top version)

  15. Speaking of behavioural poverty, why do schoolteachers here, have to consistently lie?

    Dettol Donny is inciting a civil war!
    Libertarians don’t support cases like Mrs Clubb!
    Anyone who dislikes tariffs thinks Chinese nationals should be free from criminal prosecution! (I mean seriously? I just want to be left alone and not pay ANOTHER bloody tax so I support Chinese uberlordship? FMD!)

    It’s such contemptuous arseholery by these sputum and bile herders.

  16. Cassie of Sydney

    “Actual anti Semitic behaviour merits no response at all.”

    Twas ever thus.

  17. Bear Necessities

    If White Privilege (WP) is so valuable then white people you should be able to sell it on a Privilege exchange. A black person would then go and buy some WP and immediately feel equal. Racial inequality has now been solved. White people get money, black people feel equal. The free market at work!

  18. Farmer Gez

    The fuel efficiency advantage of manuals is going as well.
    Engine management systems work best when married to a automated transmission.

  19. Ellie

    Apparently someone put a cut out pic of a serial killer in the crowd at the NRL.

  20. Bundyrum
    #3477293, posted on June 7, 2020 at 9:55 am
    MV, a few weeks ago Malcolm Roberts said the only opposition in Australia now is the cross benches

    He’s right you know.

  21. Bruce of Newcastle

    Unfortunately modern education isnt content with the natural rate of these sort of damaged people, it seeks to add to their number by the proliferation of grievance studies designed to teach any problems in your life are the result of evil outside forces and the only answer is to join the undeclass.

    Mole – Don’t miss this fine essay today.

    Hayward: Democrats Embrace the ‘Four Stages of Ideological Subversion’ (6 Jun)

    The most famous proponent of such tactics in recent years has been the late Saul Alinksy, the intellectual godfather of the modern Democrat Party, but former Soviet journalist and KGB informant Yuri Bezmenov laid out an even more concise strategy for subversion in a 1984 interview.

    Bezmenov said the first stage, Demoralization, could take 15 to 20 years to complete because “this is the minimum number of years it takes to educate one generation of students.”

    “Marxist-Leninist ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least three generations without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism, American patriotism,” he warned in 1984, judging that the demoralization process had been “basically completed” by that point.

    “Actually, it’s over-fulfilled, because demoralization now reaches such areas where previously, not even Comrade Andropov and all of his experts would even dream of such tremendous success,” he added, referring to former KGB head and Soviet leader Yuri Andropov. “Most of it is done by Americans to Americans, thanks to a lack of moral standards.”

    Bezmenov explained that demoralization is important because it robs the targeted population of its ability to process valid information. Even when demoralization targets are “showered with authentic proof” of contrary positions, they simply “refuse to believe it.”

    A very interesting article, and fits with the rejection of stuff like climate empiricism and gender determined by genetics. No evidence or data will break the indoctrinated kids out of their belief patterns.

    Same here of course. None of it is at all accidental.

  22. Cassie of Sydney

    “Bundyrum
    #3477293, posted on June 7, 2020 at 9:55 am
    MV, a few weeks ago Malcolm Roberts said the only opposition in Australia now is the cross benches.”

    Roberts is right.

  23. Ellie

    The fuel efficiency advantage of manuals is going as well.
    Engine management systems work best when married to a automated transmission.

    Ahh. Ok. I didn’t know that.

  24. MatrixTransform

    Oh and what a materialist, forty cars in fifty years.

    So much green cred too.

    I just did a quick life green cycle analysis on theTard …

    from cradle to grave, the cars are possibly still salvageable and have some value even with all the embedded carbon.

    can’t say the same for their owner

    /hypocrite lyfe

  25. Roger

    Alternative media excepted, has there been any journalistic analysis of the claims of our local BLM crowd?

  26. Bar Beach Swimmer

    From my reading of the OT, Numbers has been hanging around here for more than 10 years. And from my understanding of his time here, his 3 main areas of interest are:

    1) Vietnam and in particular the illegitimacy of the US involvement in the Vietnam War;
    2) Leftism and the legitimate Collectivist organising principle, and;
    3) his stated aim to see the end of Catallaxy.

    If we take these topics and apply Numbers‘ positional stance to his presence at The Cat, what is revealed?

    First, Numbers view is that the US should not have had a presence in the North-South conflict because, as strangers in a strange land, they could not win over the people; in being there, the US was usurping Vietnamese self-determination and sovereignty. Hence the US was there on a fool’s errand.

    On this thinking, Numbers is himself here, at Catallaxy, a stranger in a strange land; he will never win over the people so his agenda here is also a fool’s errand. Like the US withdrawal out of Vietnam in 1975, Numbers should withdraw from The Cat.

    Second, as Numbers consistently asserts, Leftism promotes, nay, demands, the right of people to come together in decision-making.

    Leaving aside for the minute a wide-ranging philosophical discussion about whether Collectivism has any legitimacy at The Cat, in Numbers view a majority decision is legitimate and should stand.

    So if Catallaxians were asked to vote on whether Numbers should stay or go, and if the response was a majority to go, would Numbers, as a Collectivist, accept that decision?

    Third, Numbers, in having been a commenter here for over 10 years, and despite his avowed intention to close down The Cat and see us all returned to the the electronic ether, has not achieved his goal. Is a 10+ year failure enough to retreat?

  27. MatrixTransform

    Is a 10+ year failure enough to retreat?

    rakes-r-us

  28. MemoryFault

    MV, a few weeks ago Malcolm Roberts said the only opposition in Australia now is the cross benches.

    There are now 151 seats in the HoR. One is vacant. “Cross benchers” occupy six.
    Liberal, Labor, National and the LNP (the “Spew Party”) occupy the other 144.
    Good luck to the crossbenchers blocking anything!

  29. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    My ICD* was always a problem.

    This from the man who fell hook, line and sinker for the North Vietnamese Party line?

  30. dover_beach

    Alternative media excepted, has there been any journalistic analysis of the claims of our local BLM crowd?

    That’s racist.

  31. Some History

    Is a 10+ year failure enough to retreat?

    rakes-r-us

    Jack the dancing queen has developed calluses on his forehead.

  32. In today’s unsurprising news…
    The wallopers were out in force last night invading bars and restaurants enforcing social distancing rules, threatening to close bars that had too many people in them or where patrons were not sitting down (apparently coronavirus will now sail over your head and has a height restriction as well as the vertical 1.5m exclusion zone).
    Having spent the day watching over as thousands of people went on their stupid fucking protest their focus shifted in the evening to diners and drinkers and small business owners and harassing them for “breaking the rules”.

    To add more insult to injury, after the protest the streets were littered with discarded face masks that were handed out – for free- at the protest. Though they are useless against the nothing virus you couldn’t get these for love or lots of money a few months ago.
    Handed out for free to leftist scum and then thrown away…

    If your blood is not white hot molten boiling angry, there’s something wrong with you.

  33. Eddystone

    Leigh Lowe
    #3477273, posted on June 7, 2020 at 9:39 am

    From memory, many of the Indig deaths in custody happened in police watchhouses, far less in prisons

    The definition of “in custody” is even more broad.
    Being pursued by the cops is included in the definition, as is being on bail and parole.

    Being pulled over for a breatho counts as being “in custody”, and the “in custody” period lasts for 24 hours after the test. According to a police officer I spoke to a few years ago.

  34. Bundyrum

    MV, I only posted what MR said, I didn’t say we were out of the shit.

  35. Ed Case

    The Vietnam War was a weapons test in battle conditions exercise for the U.S. Military.
    That’s it.
    Anyone drawing conclusions about American warmaking capabilities from Vietnam [or Iraq and Afghanistan] is missing the forest for the trees.

  36. Cassie of Sydney

    “Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #3477314, posted on June 7, 2020 at 10:13 am
    My ICD* was always a problem.

    This from the man who fell hook, line and sinker for the North Vietnamese Party line?”

    Yep…the truth is that he loves crap…when it suits his narrative. His so called “ICD” was and is always missing when he comes across a good libel and lie and sprout. Anyone remember his pearlier last year…when he posted that IDF soldiers at the border forcibly poured bleach down the throats of Palli women. His “ICD” was conveniently missing then…..perhaps he should rename it SCD…selective crap detector.

  37. notafan

    Bin chicken doesn’t like people making a profit , except himself of course (hardback only $32.95 including postage within Australia).

    Whatever deals he got buying cars they would have included a profit for the dealership.

    As for selling privately.

    Lol, numbers must have his profit margin.

    I’d further point out that dealers have to add GST to the price and private sellers don’t so they need to buy second hand stock for resale as cheaply as possible.

  38. Zyconoclast

    Why did asking to speak to the manager suddenly become problematic?

    It was excellent left wing propaganda that got conservatives to insult white women.

  39. Roger

    Alternative media excepted, has there been any journalistic analysis of the claims of our local BLM crowd?

    That’s racist.

    Right.

    So the aim is to shut down debate, because the facts are not on their side (as a general rule, the shriller the protester, the weaker the argument).

    The media meekly complies and the Socialist Alliance organisers win the day.

  40. MemoryFault

    Sorry Bundyrum.

    I wasn’t having a shot at you, I was agreeing with you, and supplying the actual numbers to back up your statement. Apologies if it didn’t come out that way.

  41. Cassie of Sydney

    “If your blood is not white hot molten boiling angry, there’s something wrong with you.”

    My anger is at Vesuvius levels.

  42. notafan

    Is that correct Zyconoclast?

    Haven’t heard that before.
    I thought it was a type of interfering busybody, a stereotype that has been around forever, just rebadged because of the coronavirus.

  43. Nick

    Zyco, it’s true though, it’s even here at the Cat.

  44. Top Ender

    Amidst all this gloom, enjoy what must be the headline of the week:

    Ex-MP comes out as gay, splits with wife and sells urinal

    For the best part of a decade, the friends and neighbours of former Liberal MP Michael Yabsley spoke openly of rumours of the retired politician being gay.

    So it came as some surprise to this writer to discover, while chasing a story relating to Yabsley years ago following his retirement from parliament in 1994, that he was in fact married and living with his wife Susie in their Kangaloon home, Wombat Hollow, a home that through the seasons has played host to conversational forums with the likes of Bob Carr, Nick Greiner, Alan Jones and a descendant of Sir Winston Churchill. In October, Yabsley and wife Susie split up after 37 years and two children together.

    Daily Tele

  45. Ed Case

    It was excellent left wing propaganda that got conservatives to insult white women.

    Thanks for that.
    Sometimes it hard to keep track of who the villains du jour are.

  46. Bruce of Newcastle

    Democracies are inherently unstable, turning eventually into oligarchies as the insiders work out how to gain money and power.

    We’ve seen in the last couple months how the current bunch of pollies have worked out how to unlock previously unheard-of rivers of gold. So the effective oligarchy isn’t going to go away.

    And of course oligarchies usually turn into dictatorships (τύραννος) as one leader manages to dominate a sufficiently strong quorum of personal supporters. Like has just happened again in China.

  47. Zyconoclast

    “Problematic” sounds like a KRuddism.

    Close.
    That would be detailed programmatic specificity

  48. MatrixTransform

    I’m not at the footy Mr Plod … I thought this was a protest

    or

    This isn’t a souvlaki, officer. Its a political statement.

  49. Cassie of Sydney

    “Ex-MP comes out as gay, splits with wife and sells urinal

    For the best part of a decade, the friends and neighbours of former Liberal MP Michael Yabsley spoke openly of rumours of the retired politician being gay.”

    I’ve known for years….but good luck to him…if it makes him happier…people need to be true to themselves.

  50. MemoryFault

    I need some advice.

    I’m hanging out for a roast dinner, and Woolies do both cooked, hot roast beef and pork.
    I’m fine with the vegetables, but what’s the simplest, easiest, “instant” gravy?

  51. Ellie

    It was excellent left wing propaganda that got conservatives to insult white women.

    Insulting white women is now sport. Karen told me.

  52. Dr Faustus

    The definition of “in custody” is even more broad.
    Being pursued by the cops is included in the definition, as is being on bail and parole.

    The Guardian has produced a searchable database of all cases of Death in Custody from 2008 to 2020.

    The leading causes – ~75% of all – were:

    Medical issues – ie dying of a disease;
    – Self harm;
    – Road accident
    .

    The last category gives a particular insight into the horrid statistics. A random example:

    April 2012
    CN died when the car he was driving hit a power pole and burst into flames. He was intoxicated, driving at speeds of 171km/h on a 60km/h road in central Alice Springs in an attempt to evade police, who had tried to flag him down a few minutes earlier but were not in pursuit. His sister-in-law KT was also killed in the crash and three other passengers were injured. The coroner said the incident raised concerns that some drivers were becoming more bold because police had ceased to pursue cars that were driving in a particularly risky manner.

    So, tragic, unnecessary, but not exactly put to death by a chokehold administered by a chortling racist upon a helpless victim.

  53. Roger

    I’m hanging out for a roast dinner, and Woolies do both cooked, hot roast beef and pork.
    I’m fine with the vegetables, but what’s the simplest, easiest, “instant” gravy?

    If you’re looking for something out of a jar, Peter, Gravox have ‘Our Best Beef Gravy’ which is as it says.

    Coles stocks it; not sure about Woollies.

  54. Bruce of Newcastle

    I think that’s also why socialism never ever works in practice, because by its very nature socialism must be an oligarchy. Therefore the oligarchy pursues its own interests, not the interests of the people it is supposed to be looking after.

  55. areff

    Guardian ladies very upset that vile men enjoy pics of fetching TV news gals (who are, of course, hired for their looks, not acumen). Funniest bit is gripe of a “journalist” who five years ago was a topless model (cadetships ain’t what they used to be) and had one of her old snaps posted by an admirer.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/07/sexist-forum-posts-hundreds-of-private-images-of-australian-female-journalists-and-celebrities#maincontent

    Second funny thing: Story ends with the advice,

    “We’ve got to be extra careful on the streets and extra careful online.”.

    If a male policeman were to tender that advice after, say, a young comedienne gets raped and murdered in a park, he’d be blitzed with demands for his resignation.

  56. MemoryFault

    Thanks Roger.
    Is that straight out of the jar/packet and heat?

  57. Tom

    A face of the future: Camaroonian-American immigrant Nestride Yumga, who was just interviewed on Sky Outsiders for standing up to the Black lives Matters thugs, who destroyed a number of American cities in the past week’s rioting. Shorter Nestride: BLM couldn’t give a fuck about actual black people — this week’s riots were against Trump, not the cops and were about the 2020 election in November.

  58. Bundyrum

    MV, don’t forget the yorkshire puds whilst shopping.

  59. Roger

    Thanks Roger.
    Is that straight out of the jar/packet and heat?

    Mix with hot water as per instructions, Peter.

    A tip – I add a dash of milk at the end for extra richness.

  60. Cassie of Sydney

    “A face of the future: Camaroonian-American immigrant Nestride Yumga,”

    Agree.

  61. areff

    what’s the simplest, easiest, “instant” gravy?

    Pop some butter in a coffee mug and melt it in the microwave. Stir in some Gravox until smooth, then add boiling water and stir. Not as good as making gravy in the pan from the roast’s juices, but quick, easy and entirely acceptable.

  62. thefrollickingmole

    Bruce of Newcastle

    Nice article, and basically right.

    On the deaths in custard crapola.

    https://humanrights.gov.au/our-work/indigenous-deaths-custody-chapter-3-comparison-indigenous-and-non-indigenous-deaths

    Table 3.6 breaks down causes of death for deaths in police custody. The differences between the three principal causes of death are not statistically significant. 7 The deaths from injury generally resulted police car chases and cases where Aboriginal people were arrested under the presumption of intoxication. Non-Aboriginal people were more likely to die from self-inflicted gunshot, hanging or injury while in police custody.

    Table 3.7 categorises causes of death in prison. Indigenous people were more likely to die from natural causes. Non-indigenous people were more likely to die from drug overdoses and injury.

    In other words dying while evading arrest is a “death in custody” as is choking on your own vomit/overdose in a lockup rather than expiring on the street of the same.
    The deaths in custody is an awful piece of very dishonest and selective crap.

  63. egg_

    I just want to be left alone and not pay ANOTHER bloody tax so I support Chinese uberlordship?

    Amen.
    It’s OK for Apple to run sweat shops there, just don’t send us your flu bugs?
    Trump may be concerned re Ch1nese dumping cheap steel (Oz is too – wind turbine towers are made of cheap Ch1nese junk steel, so their developers are scrimping).
    India makes cheap junk steel too, but it’s superior to Ch1nese.
    The fact that wind turbine towers are using Ch1nese steel means they don’t care about quality.

  64. Roger

    MV, don’t forget the yorkshire puds whilst shopping.

    Yum!

    My grandma taught me to make Yorkshire pudding as a kid.

    The tip is to cook it in the roasting pan with the juices of the meat.

  65. Bruce of Newcastle

    I need some advice.

    Grilled some pork for dinner last night.
    Had it with some habanero tabasco. And a sprinkling of salt. Yum!
    There’s your gravy right there.

  66. Rockdoctor

    Heard there’s a keg shortage in Sydney atm so bars aren’t doing a roaring trade yet. Most are drinking their favourite drop out of bottles. Better half has dragged me into the cdb shopping so I will be warming a few seats in inner Sydney pubs later & can confirm or deny…

  67. MemoryFault

    don’t forget the yorkshire puds whilst shopping.

    You can get pre-made yorkshire pudding?

  68. Roger

    Shorter Nestride: BLM couldn’t give a fuck about actual black people — this week’s riots were against Trump, not the cops and were about the 2020 election in November.

    There’s a theory abroad that Antifa actually want Trump to win so they can wreak more havoc and advance their revolutionary cause. Hence the subsidised rioting.

  69. Roger

    You can get pre-made yorkshire pudding?

    Yep. In the freezer section at Coles.

  70. MemoryFault

    Pop some butter in a coffee mug and melt it in the microwave.

    What’s a “microwave”?

  71. Bar Beach Swimmer

    I’m fine with the vegetables, but what’s the simplest, easiest, “instant” gravy?

    Peter, it’s very easy to make real gravy, which is superior to any “instant” version. After roasting the piece of meat and roasted vegetables remove and keep warm, then add fat of some type to the roasting pan. I find the easiest is butter. Add 1-2 tablespoons of butter to the pan and heat on the stove.

    Then add a few tablespoons of plain flour, make sure not to have the heat too high, but high enough to brown the flour-butter mixture and keep stirring with a wooden spoon.

    Then add water while still stirring and continuing to do so, until the right consistency is achieved.

  72. MemoryFault

    Yep. In the freezer section at Coles.

    Thanks, Roger.
    Gravy AND yorkshire pudding.
    Now I’m hungry just thinking about dinner.

  73. stackja

    egg_
    #3477280, posted on June 7, 2020 at 9:44 am
    Friedeggburger’s new spendathon is because BLF lives matter?

    Sports Lives Matter go the races. Need to go to the dogs.

  74. Roger

    Heard there’s a keg shortage in Sydney atm so bars aren’t doing a roaring trade yet.

    Popped into an Irish pub on the Gold Coast last week.

    “I’ll have a pint of Kilkenny please”.

    “Sorry, we’re out of Kilkenny. But we’ve got Coors on tap.”

    Had to content myself with a James Squier.

  75. lotocoti

    pre-made yorkshire pudding

    What fresh hell is this?
    SMOD now!

  76. Huck

    From dads days selling cars there were no more deadshit conformist customers than teachers and (for whatever reason ) priests& nuns.
    Once the hivemind had decided over the staffroom table what the “best car” was (using their combined mechanical knowledge) they all seemed to trundle in and want the same thing for a year or 2.

    Very conformist thinkers.

    This!
    Back when I was GSM at a Ford dealership, my salesmen learnt how to spot a teacher from a mile away (the clipboard with pages and pages of reviews from Drive, Wheels, Motor etc was the giveaway).
    I had to get involved plenty of times when teachers got in arguments with my staff about specs on cars. The Cars Guide in the Herald Sun was notorious for getting specs wrong in their reviews, but no matter how much official company literature was produced to prove that the salesman, not the review, was correct, the teacher would still not believe us.
    The other issue is that teachers are institutionalised. They go to kindergarten, primary school, high school, university then back into the school system. They crave being told what to do and will never, ever make a decision without the imprimatur of their peers.
    They’ve not lived outside institutions and have never been held to account for their decisions. They need to get approval of others before making one, so that the repercussions of a poor decision are somehow spread amongst the mob.
    The 2nd most frustrating group of people to deal with.
    Don’t get me started on Real Estate agents…

  77. Dr Faustus

    You can get pre-made yorkshire pudding?
    Yep. In the freezer section at Coles.

    And surprisingly OK.

  78. MemoryFault

    Peter, it’s very easy to make real gravy,

    I actually know how to do it, BBS. It was one of my jobs back when I was half of a couple.
    But I’m buying this roast pre-cooked from Woolies.

    Ideally I’m hoping to be adopted, but so far no takers.
    I am fully house trained, and know all the important stuff, like putting the toilet seat down.

  79. stackja

    The Battle of Bréville was fought by the British 6th Airborne Division and the German 346th Infantry Division, between 8 and 13 June 1944, during the early phases of the invasion of Normandy in the Second World War.

  80. Ed Case

    Fault:
    Avoid cooking with Butter, it breaks down into indigestible pus.
    Use Dripping instead, it’s rated up to 390F.
    Top of the dairy case, far left corner, between Supafry and York Foods Lard.

  81. egg_

    Democracies are inherently unstable, turning eventually into oligarchies as the insiders work out how to gain money and power.

    Tits only had to do nothing and he’d win – but he did something* and lost.
    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt.

    *Involving Bob Brown in Qld was Electoral poison.

  82. Bruce of Newcastle

    For the best part of a decade, the friends and neighbours of former Liberal MP Michael Yabsley spoke openly of rumours of the retired politician being gay.

    Who cares? Amused that the lefty media class who’ve been spit-polishing qwerties like army shoes for so long are now getting their panties in a twist about gay pollies. They showed spectacular disinterest in Peter Slipper’s expeditions along Oxford St.

    Lindsey Graham Gay Rumors Erupt Again After Escort Threatens to Out ‘Homophobic Republican Senator’ (6 Jun)

    I suppose this is all lefty black ops to detach Christians from the Republicans, LNP or somesuch. If it wasn’t so nasty, and typically hypocritical, such lefty tactics would be hilarious.

  83. egg_

    The other issue is that teachers are institutionalised. They go to kindergarten, primary school, high school, university then back into the school system. They crave being told what to do and will never, ever make a decision without the imprimatur of their peers.
    They’ve not lived outside institutions and have never been held to account for their decisions. They need to get approval of others before making one, so that the repercussions of a poor decision are somehow spread amongst the mob.

    Not unlike the CMO bureaucrats that SloMo let near the levers, killing our Economy.

  84. dover_beach

    Read Aquinas Lao Tzu or Kong Quin Fusi.

    These are all considered *conservative* but a lot of it is very concomitant with classical liberalism.

    Sure, but ‘classical’ liberalism departed significantly from the classical politics of Aristotle, Cicero, and Aquinas or even Lao Tzu. It looks ‘classical’ only because it retains remnants of the old (Locke’s reference to natural rights) but what was new (that freedom was pursuit of desire and that this was the ruling good rather than freedom consisting of mastery of desire in pursuit of the good) is inimical to classical politics. And the tension of the old and new in liberalism is inexorably resolved with the excision of the old.

  85. Cassie of Sydney

    “I suppose this is all lefty black ops to detach Christians from the Republicans, LNP or somesuch. If it wasn’t so nasty, and typically hypocritical, such lefty tactics would be hilarious.”

    Yep….the same lefty media run cover and say nothing about Shorten, about Albanese, about Carr, about Keating…the list is long on the Labor side……a lot longer than anything on the conservative side.

  86. Delta A

    I’m fine with the vegetables, but what’s the simplest, easiest, “instant” gravy?

    Peter, I’m very fussy – usually make my own gravy – but when I need instant, I’ve found Bisto is the best. Our Coles/Woolies stock it – sometimes found in the international section.

    Good luck.

  87. egg_

    There’s a theory abroad that Antifa actually want Trump to win so they can wreak more havoc and advance their revolutionary cause. Hence the subsidised rioting.

    That was an allegation on a MLK Jr doco – that whites paid the blacks to riot, MLK Jr was into peaceful protest and working with whites for change – no wonder he was assassinated and you could see his gaze sweeping the room in his last speeches.

  88. Sinclair Davidson

    Best instant gravy is the Bisto brand – buy it in the British foods section of Coles. I add the meat juices to that with water and stir.

  89. MemoryFault

    Thanks Delta.
    You sure you don’t want to adopt me?

  90. stackja

    Albo’s bachelor days seem to be over as he wines and dines new partner
    Anthony Albanese has been spotted wining and dining his new love interest. Read how they met and why they bonded over a love of Albo’s beloved footy team.

    Annette Sharp, The Sunday Telegraph
    Subscriber only
    |
    June 7, 2020 12:00am

    t was always going to be one of ­Anthony Albanese’s three great passions — his son Nathan, politics or the mighty South Sydney Rabbitohs rugby league team — that was going to set the federal ALP leader on the path back to love.

    Yesterday sources close to “Albo” confirmed it was his beloved Bunnies that helped the Labor politician break the ice with new partner Jodie Haydon.

    Lost passion for Carmel?

  91. Zyconoclast

    Good luck to the crossbenchers blocking anything!

    They can block the Parliamentary toilets.

  92. Ronaldo

    It is appropriate to recall the response to the research of the Criminology Unit of the Royal Commission into Aboriginal Deaths in Custody when it was found that the death rate for Aboriginals in police or prison custody was little different to that of non-Aboriginals:

    The hostility towards the work of the Criminology Unit reached a climax only a few months after the work started when it became clear that the research showed that Aboriginal persons in either police or prison custody were no more likely to die than were non- Aboriginal people. This general finding was interpreted by some significant elements of the staff as undermining the very found- ations of the Royal Commission. To even hint that such a conclusion was possible was seen as disloyal, misguided, and obviously wrong.

    Source: David Biles and David McDonald, eds., Deaths in Custody Australia, 1980-1989, Australian Institute of Criminology, 1992, page v.

  93. egg_

    For the best part of a decade, the friends and neighbours of former Liberal MP Michael Yabsley spoke openly of rumours of the retired politician being gay.”

    He always looked a bit “light in the loafers”.

  94. stackja

    dover_beach
    #3477375, posted on June 7, 2020 at 11:04 am

    Today feelz?

  95. Tintarella di Luna

    Behavioral poverty is reflected in the attitudes, values, and beliefs that justify entitlement thinking, the spurning of personal responsibility, and the rejection of traditional social mechanisms of advancement. It is characterized by high self-indulgence, low self-regulation, exploitation of others, and limited motivation and effort.

    Notwithstanding his multimillionarianism this sounds like a vey recently former Prime Minister of Australia (circa 2018)

  96. Ellie

    I add a teaspoon of promite to my meat juices. The secret ingredient that makes gravy pop!

  97. Ed Case

    Lindsey Graham is one of the Gang of 8 who wrote an Immigration Bill in 2013 that would have destroyed the Republican Party.
    Basically a RINO, the Democrats don’t need him anymore since they’re on track to win his seat in November anyway, so they’re lowering the boom.

  98. Cassie of Sydney

    I follow my mother’s recipe…..when I make roast chicken or beef, I always roast the meat on a bed of two or three onions chopped in half…..I then make gravy by pureeing the onions in the meat juices and I add lots of pepper. I don’t need to add flour. Very smooth, very yummy gravy.

  99. Diogenes

    Use Dripping instead, it’s rated up to 390F.

    Hmmmm, dripping on blackbread (think heavy German pumpernickel) with salt hmmmmmmmmmm

  100. MemoryFault

    Thanks Ellie.
    Will vegemite do? Haven’t got promite.

  101. Cassie of Sydney

    “Diogenes
    #3477391, posted on June 7, 2020 at 11:17 am
    Use Dripping instead, it’s rated up to 390F.

    Hmmmm, dripping on blackbread (think heavy German pumpernickel) with salt hmmmmmmmmmm”

    Chicken schmaltz on matza or on rye bread…bloody delicious.

  102. MemoryFault

    I follow my mother’s recipe…..

    Thanks Cassie.
    But I’m buying the roast already cooked.

  103. Bruce of Newcastle

    Speaking of lefties suddenly finding gay class-enemies, this column is amusing.

    Why isn’t Andrew Sullivan allowed to write his column? (5 Jun, via BCF)

    What has happened to New York media? Just as the New York Times was experiencing its own Inner Mongolia Moment over the now notorious Sen. Tom Cotton ‘Send in the Troops’ op-ed, the Maoists at New York magazine were going after their best columnist, Andrew Sullivan.

    Sullivan revealed on Twitter yesterday that his column wouldn’t be appearing. The reason? His editors are not allowing him to write about the riots.

    Not allowed to say riots are bad, at least not in NY Mag.

    Sullivan may be a very small ‘c’ conservative, in some ways, but he is really a committed liberal — an Obama-loving gay man who thinks that Trump’s ‘dangerous fantasies’ threaten America.

    Sullivan, a source close to New York magazine reveals, has to have his work vetted by sensitive junior editors to make sure it doesn’t trigger them. If it passes their sniff testing, it can be published.

    The Party has determined you have been contaminated by wrongthink, comrade.

  104. Sinclair Davidson

    I add a teaspoon of promite to my meat juices.

    Went a friends house and saw him adding bbq sauce to the gravy he had made in the old fashioned traditional style. Was nice but was also cheating.

  105. Diogenes

    The best dripping evah …
    dad used to put big baking trays under the bacon in the smoke room when he was smoking the bacon to catch the juices, he would then render that down and put it into oiled cups. Local restaurants couldn’t get enough

  106. Delta A

    I add a good dollop of both Worcestshire sauce and Ketjap Manis. Make sure to simmer the gravy for a good five minutes to give it a lovely sheen.

  107. cohenite

    Image of the BLM riots: a woman (sic) squatting naked on an upturned police car doing her business: for those who can be bothered:

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10158635604658653&set=p.10158635604658653&type=3&theater

  108. Delta A

    Delta A
    #3477398, posted on June 7, 2020 at 11:26 am

    That’s when I make my own from scratch, not using Bisto instant.

  109. Ellie

    A record five minutes. In uber on the way home.

    Peter – don’t use vegemite. Wrong flavour. Promite makes a gravy pop.

    Doomlord – bbq sauce? WTF? A big no no.

  110. I can’t believe I have been lied to about Confucius and so called ‘Confucianism’.

    Question everything.

  111. Ed Case

    Most blokes are seriously saturated fat deprived, just the smell of dripping cooking will lure them like blood in the water and tiger sharks.

  112. Crimes against gravy. For shame.

    At worst add a small aliquot of orange juice to *cut* through excess fat.

  113. Ellie

    Worcestshire sauce – yes – peppery. Nice.

  114. MemoryFault

    Thanks Ellie.
    No vegemite then.
    Promite added to shopping list.

  115. Ellie

    Plus ginger kisses, Peter. They are devine.

  116. stackja

    Black Lives Matter Brisbane: Cronulla Sharks player Cruz Topai-Aveai explains protest outburst
    A young NRL player is unapologetic after he threatened police and climbed on a cop car during yesterday’s protests, saying he is fed up with police ‘abusing their privilege’.

    Alexandria Utting, Kate Kyriacou, Nathan Edwards, The Sunday Mail (Qld)
    Subscriber only
    |
    June 7, 2020 10:29am

    A FORMER Cronulla Sharks player has explained what sparked the fury that led to him threatening police and jumping on a cop car during yesterday’s Black Lives Matter protests in Brisbane.

    Cruz Topai-Aveai – who was a top 30 listed player for the Sharks before leaving the club last month ‘to be with family’ – was filmed swearing at police on Grey St at South Bank, holding onto the bullbar of their car in a foul-mouthed tirade at the officers inside.

  117. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Image of the BLM riots: a woman (sic) squatting naked on an upturned police car doing her business: for those who can be bothered:

    Noice!

  118. MemoryFault

    Most blokes are seriously saturated fat deprived,

    Tell me about it.
    I’m currently 25 kilos underweight, according to my doctor.
    Hence the new emphasis on diet.
    Apparently you can’t survive indefinitely on omelettes and rice cracker biscuits with cheese.

    Who would have guessed? You learn something new every day.

  119. Vagabond

    my salesmen learnt how to spot a teacher from a mile away (the clipboard with pages and pages of reviews from Drive, Wheels, Motor etc was the giveaway).

    A GP of my acquaintance reckons they are the worst patients for similar reasons. Before computerisation he used to put a discrete “C” for Chalkie on the front of the paper file to alert himself and his colleagues.

  120. egg_

    To add more insult to injury, after the protest the streets were littered with discarded face masks that were handed out – for free- at the protest. Though they are useless against the nothing virus you couldn’t get these for love or lots of money a few months ago.
    Handed out for free to leftist scum and then thrown away…

    Temporary virtue signalling attire only.

  121. Johno

    In April 2019 there were 18705 cases of influenza recorded in Australia.

    In April 2020 there were 229 cases of influenza recorded in Australia.

  122. egg_

    Nigella can stir my meat in her juices any time.

    She said she’s “got some points” for us 7pm nightly on SBS Food.

  123. MemoryFault

    Plus ginger kisses, Peter. They are devine.

    I know Ellie. You already told me before.
    Now I’m addicted to them and they are on my weekly shopping list.
    I don’t know whether to thank you or grumble about it.

  124. areff

    What’s a “microwave”?

    A device for quick-drying socks and undies when its raining in Melbourne

  125. Ed Case

    Read somewhere that back in the days when takeaway food was tasty, fish and chip shops used mutton and lamb dripping in their fryers.
    Somewhere along the way Trans Fats supplanted Saturated Fat in the cooker, then chemists found a way to chemically cleanse Trans Fats for reuse.
    I’m sure none of these developments had anything to do with the disappearance of the Fish and Chip shops
    that used to be common in Australia.

  126. Makka

    The gutlessness of Morrison is revolting. He has ceded political control of Australia to the state premiers and a bunch of unelected public service parasites.

    Scummo will do ANYTHING now to prevent the poisonous headlines he generated for himself during the bushfires. Give away our money, kiss BLM arse, pals with Socialist Premiers – no fkn worries. Just keep those good headlines of me rolling and get as much distance as possible from my Hawaii Holiday.

  127. stackja

    Johno
    #3477419, posted on June 7, 2020 at 11:40 am
    In April 2019 there were 18705 cases of influenza recorded in Australia.

    In April 2020 there were 229 cases of influenza recorded in Australia.

    So we must “social distance” all this year. What could possibly go wrong?

  128. Bruce of Newcastle

    Awwww, sads.

    German conservatives slam reported US troop withdrawal (6 Jun, via BCF)

    Washington’s alleged plan to transfer about 9,500 troops out of its German bases is a symbolic gesture that is likely to weaken US military operations and “further deteriorate” trans-Atlantic ties, conservative lawmaker Andreas Nick told DW on Saturday.

    The comments come after the Wall Street Journal, Der Spiegel magazine, and the Reuters news agency all reported that the US is preparing to cut down its German contingent. Some 34,500 US troops are currently stationed in Germany. The transfer is reportedly due to Germany not investing enough money into its defense.

    It’s funny how the German lefty MSM, who really really hate US Imperialism™, aren’t happy with Trump withdrawing US troops from Germany. And the date of the story is so much fun too.

  129. From my reading of the OT, Numbers has been hanging around here for more than 10 years. And from my understanding of his time here, his 3 main areas of interest are:

    1) Vietnam and in particular the illegitimacy of the US involvement in the Vietnam War;
    2) Leftism and the legitimate Collectivist organising principle, and;
    3) his stated aim to see the end of Catallaxy.

    You don’t read (or comprehend) very well.
    I’m interested in everything, but primarily in reality.
    That’s what makes this site so useful.
    It’s by far the largest repository of unadulterated rubbish readily available.
    The opportunities to expose some of that rubbish are frequent, although you’d need to be reading it day and night to complete the task.
    It’s much more agreeable to use it as a background whilst I’m studying.
    It’s the old ten minute rule – take a ten minute break from whatever you’re doing every hour, find some readily available crap, and call it out. It’s contributed richly to my last couple of semesters of project work.
    It’s also gratifying to understand that my contributions are so impactful that some readers store them away from ten years ago.
    As for shutting it down – perish the thought.
    That would remove a free and consistent source of entertainment.
    And AFAIK, there’s nothing in “about” or “rules” about democracy.
    You’re not going to vote me away, and the vilest of insults simply remind me that my contributions are making an impact.
    It’s so easily measurable by the amount of invective generated.

    The weirdest phenomena that emerges here is that of verballing.
    For example –

    his stated aim to see the end of Catallaxy.

    Ask Mater – (avid collector as he is of all my pearls of wisdom) to see if he can find me stating anywhere on this site that I wanted to shut it down.
    That should keep him busy for a week or two.😃

  130. egg_

    In April 2020 there were 229 cases of influenza recorded in Australia.

    Deputy CMO, Arhh Choo, could not be contaced for comment.

  131. egg_

    The gutlessness of Morrison is revolting. He has ceded political control of Australia to the state premiers and a bunch of unelected public service parasites.

    Scummo will do ANYTHING now to prevent the poisonous headlines he generated for himself during the bushfires. Give away our money, kiss BLM arse, pals with Socialist Premiers – no fkn worries. Just keep those good headlines of me rolling and get as much distance as possible from my Hawaii Holiday.

    Presidential style SloMo is quick to leave Hunt and Frydenburg to be the fall guys with the bad news.

    The Economy crushing fallout of CV-19 will be an albatross around the fool’s neck.

  132. Mark from Melbourne

    If using Woolies roasts the one key tip is not to let salt anywhere near them. They are more than passable, but definitely on the salty side.

    I always add garlic (real or powdered) to my gravy. And, as above a dash of Worcestershire.

  133. Eyrie

    Numbers doesn’t realise the real job of salespersons is to protect the floor stock from dicks like him. Otherwise gear shift knobs, badges etc would go missing all the time.

  134. Ed Case

    Apparently you can’t survive indefinitely on omelettes and rice cracker biscuits with cheese.

    Doesn’t sound too bad.
    The rice crackers wouldn’t be doing your guts much good though.
    Here’s a chicken recipe off the Net, works well.
    2 kg chicken, mash 100 g Philly Cream Cheese with 100 g unsalted butter, blend in any spice mix you like, lift the skin of the chicken without tearing and place teaspoons full of the mixture under the skin and press with fingers as far as possible. Cover outside of bird with remaining cheese/butter mixture.
    Place in preheated oven at no higher than 120 C and cook till the outside is really well done.
    Inside will be juicy.
    2 people will devour this in one sitting.

  135. Eyrie

    I knew a bloke had a P76. Wasn’t actually a bad car but one of the mates called it the P38 because it was half as good as Leyland thought it was. Thereafter I called it the Leyland Lightning.
    I believe the engine was basically two pots added to a Morris 1500 block.

  136. Fisky

    The tragedy of the Girondins. Minneapolis mayor tries to pander to mob, gets instantly cancelled and shame-walked for not supporting “defund the police”. The pathetic manlet actually said this –

    “I have been coming to grips with my own brokenness in this situation, my own failures, my own shortcomings…This systemic racist system needs to be revamped

    Uh oh, just “revamped”?? Not woke enough!

  137. Knuckle Dragger

    On the subject of free entertainment:

    Exposing your faux-virtuous, borne-of-being-institutionalised-in-tacher-world fabrications is excellent sport.

    Nobody’s going to vote you out. Your presence here pleases me, as it allows for the mindset of the eternally outraged/privileged/victimised/hopey-changey/white-knighting to be out in the sun for a bit.

    Tell us a story, Liability Bob.

    Any of your tours de force of rescuing people you class as underprivileged will do.

  138. rickw

    I knew a bloke had a P76. Wasn’t actually a bad car but one of the mates called it the P38 because it was half as good as Leyland thought it was. Thereafter I called it the Leyland Lightning.
    I believe the engine was basically two pots added to a Morris 1500 block.

    The P76 had an aluminium block, with work, capable of an excellent power to weight ratio.

  139. Eyrie

    Wasn’t the aluminium one the V-8 version?

  140. dover_beach

    The tragedy of the Girondins. Minneapolis mayor tries to pander to mob, gets instantly cancelled and shame-walked for not supporting “defund the police”.

    One of the reasons why cities are going to become increasingly unfriendly places this century.

  141. jo

    MatrixTransform
    #3477312, posted on June 7, 2020 at 10:12 am
    Is a 10+ year failure enough to retreat?

    rakes-r-us

    Munty’s favorite shop.

  142. rickw

    Average folk clean up after the blm scum.

    Apparently because most of them are whitey, it’s a white privileged, some have been getting criticised for it.

    The shit stain left by BLM is sacrosanct and cleaning up after them is as good as erasing black people.

  143. rickw

    FMD, Vicpol kneal down before black people, or ‘protesters’ or whatever:

    After shutting down the ABC, we need to shut down Vicpol, it’s like the ABC with guns.

  144. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    FMD, Vicpol kneal down before black people, or ‘protesters’ or whatever:

    Saves doing any real police work.

  145. Rockdoctor

    Just walked through Belmore Park. Discarded BLM banners everywhere. Well there’s one less now as I binned it going past. Horse poo everywhere on road outside Central. What disgusts me is Gladys didn’t even attempt to stop this going ahead. She could have used the Covid regs on another angle or applied for an urgent injunction whilst pending appeal to the supreme court. She just shrugged her shoulders & gave up when the Court of Appeal made their call. Next election if I vote formally Libs will be at the bottom. Might as well have Labor as this rate.

    Pubs seem to have most beers on tap… Shortages might have been from flat footed suppliers & publicans not expecting the relaxing of the rules.

  146. Professor Fred Lenin

    White Taxpayers Matter ,without themthe whole of prieleged society woukd collapse,no police no public servants ,no politicians no lawtrade no Centelink .Yes White Taxpayers Do Matter .

  147. jo

    Eyrie
    #3477440, posted on June 7, 2020 at 12:06 pm
    Wasn’t the aluminium one the V-8 version?

    3.5 ltr Buick rated about 185 hp but considerably less.

  148. one old bruce

    Belmore Park is a homeless camp anyway isn’t it? Or did they clean it up. I slept there in a tent once in the 80s, what a night!

  149. Rockdoctor

    No sign of homeless. Place was a mess of signs & detritus from protests. Council workers were cleaning up as I went through.

  150. egg_

    White Taxpayers Matter

    The solution to every problem on Q&A &c. is more money needed to fix the problem.

  151. Bruce of Newcastle

    On the subject of free entertainment

    Lunchtime, which means checking free-to-air EPG on the tele.
    Battleship at 7:30pm vs John Wick 2 and 8:30pm.
    Decisions, decisions.
    I think I’ll have half a battleship for entrée.

  152. Cassie of Sydney

    “She just shrugged her shoulders & gave up when the Court of Appeal made their call. Next election if I vote formally Libs will be at the bottom. Might as well have Labor as this rate.”

    Yep…I suspect that Glad is gonski now. This was a fuck up of monumental proportions. In other words…she and Elliott didn’t have the fortitude and spine to say NO. On Wednesday and Thursday they both should have stood in front of the media and said….”READ MY LIPS….NO”. But they kowtowed and appeased far left progressives who would never vote Liberal anyway.

    Next state and federal election I will vote informally in the lower house. I will vote for PHON in the upper house and senate. My federal Liberal vote evaporated after the Bettina Arndt censure motion…supported by supine and craven cretins….Jim Molan, Amanda Stocker and James Paterson.

  153. egg_

    The gutlessness of Morrison is revolting. He has ceded political control of Australia to the state premiers and a bunch of unelected public service parasites.

    Scummo will do ANYTHING now to prevent the poisonous headlines he generated for himself during the bushfires. Give away our money, kiss BLM arse, pals with Socialist Premiers – no fkn worries. Just keep those good headlines of me rolling and get as much distance as possible from my Hawaii Holiday.

    If he touches our Super for a CV-19 bailout, he’ll be unelectable.

  154. Mater

    You’re not going to vote me away, and the vilest of insults simply remind me that my contributions are making an impact.

    No Bob, you’re not going to be voted away. You’ve shown previously (when removed) that you’d just come back dressed in Mufti, as you’ve done before…just like Bird.

    Sadly, there is no getting rid of you. Like dog shit in the tread of a work boot.

    Smufti
    #2249207, posted on January 1, 2017 at 5:27 pm

    I owned a dog who behaved like this. When he knew he had done the wrong thing, he would attempt distraction. That canine level of discourse is maintained by the Harpics who appear on this scrofulous little site.

    Smufti
    #2226412, posted on December 3, 2016 at 7:07 pm

    the cookie-cutter sameness of those who had turned out to denounce the result of an entirely democratic election.

    Surely you jest.
    Whatever happened recently in the USA can be called lots of different things, but to call it “democracy” is a stretch.
    Turnout was 58.8%.
    Of those who voted, 48 percent of the national vote went to Clinton compared to Trump’s 46.7 percent.
    Looking at it another way, 41.2% had no say at all, and of those who did, more voted for the unsuccessful candidate than the winner.
    Democracy?

  155. Cassie of Sydney

    ” Like dog shit in the tread of a work boot.”

    A perfect analogy.

  156. egg_

    From a Pom auto blogger who loves our V8s

  157. Bruce of Newcastle

    A catholic bishop with a spine.

    His boss was in the news again yesterday.

    “We cannot pretend to be healthy in a world that is sick,” Francis said. “The wounds inflicted on our mother earth are wounds that also bleed in us.”

    “Caring for ecosystems demands a look to the future, one that is not concerned only with the immediate moment or that seeks a quick and easy profit, but rather one that is concerned for life and that seeks its preservation for the benefit of all,” he added.

    Ecosystems seem to be more important than sinners with this guy. Apologies to Catholic Cats, who may be offended with me putting this up. If there was anything actually happening I could empathise with him, but I can’t see any data supporting this stuff.

    Pope Francis: Wounds of Mother Earth ‘Bleed in Us’ (5 Jun)

  158. MemoryFault

    Next state and federal election I will vote informally in the lower house.

    Don’t do that Cassie. It accomplishes nothing.
    Instead, federally vote the sitting member LAST, regardless of party.
    That way you may just help to unseat them.

    At state level you have optional preferential voting in NSW.
    Vote for some independent or minor party, and don’t mark any other squares.

  159. Rockdoctor

    Cassie if I were a betting man I’d say the late call to ban the protest was made only after public outrage forced her hand and Gladys having shown support for it earlier only did enough to ensure that the inevitable court challenge would succeed. Their pick for Eden-Monaro and this debacle has done it for me. Can’t hold my nose while justifying the at least their not Labor line anymore.

  160. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From areff at 10:37 am:

    “Guardian ladies very upset that vile men enjoy pics of fetching TV news gals (who are, of course, hired for their looks, not acumen). Funniest bit is gripe of a “journalist” who five years ago was a topless model (cadetships ain’t what they used to be) and had one of her old snaps posted by an admirer.

    Areff’s link to Guardian piece

    Second funny thing: Story ends with the advice,

    “We’ve got to be extra careful on the streets and extra careful online.”

    These dopey sheilas invite a jolly good mocking.

    They pursue a role in which they can bathe in publicity; they post photos of themselves on the internet eating, sleeping, beaching, pouting and entering the dunny; and complain bitterly when people look at them and comment. If they read someone typing “Gees she’s porked up” they are just as likely to neck themselves!

    A couple of minutes research found the site which is having the girlses feeeeling hurtful hurtiness. I have a feeling it has been around for a couple of decades, which means the narcissists are whingeing about something that is not at all new and they are therefore experiencing some sort of deprivation phase. Perhaps other victim classes are gobbling up too much public attention this week.

    The Guardian has a photo of one of ’em, Antoinette Lattouf – some-never-heard-of from Channel 10 News evidently. She has that fashionable expression, glaring balefully at the camera through a ¼ inch of caked on pig grease and guano and appearing most unsatisfied with the world. Perhaps that is the powerful wymminses look.

  161. dover_beach

    FMD, Vicpol kneel down before black people, or ‘protesters’ or whatever

    Liberalism at prayer.

  162. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Sadly, there is no getting rid of you. Like dog shit in the tread of a work boot.

    Pay that one, Mater.

  163. Some History

    Chris Snowdon

    New study with a large sample: “The risk of infection by COVID-19 appears to be reduced by half among current smokers… Among patients tested positive, there was no evidence of significantly increased risk of developing severe or fatal disease.”

    Smoking and the risk of COVID-19 in a large observational population study
    June 01, 2020.
    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.06.01.20118877v1

    South Africa banned the sale of alcohol (recently reversed) and tobacco during covid-19 lockdown.

    SA cannot shrug off smoking as a defence against Covid-19
    Scores of studies have found fewer smokers among hospital cases than in the general population

    https://www.businesslive.co.za/bd/opinion/2020-05-24-sa-cannot-shrug-off-smoking-as-a-defence-against-covid-19/

  164. Cassie of Sydney

    “Rockdoctor
    #3477464, posted on June 7, 2020 at 12:33 pm
    Cassie if I were a betting man I’d say the late call to ban the protest was made only after public outrage forced her hand and Gladys having shown support for it earlier only did enough to ensure that the inevitable court challenge would succeed.”

    That’s right.

  165. Knuckle Dragger

    VicPol taking a knee.

    Once upon a time, used to be a half decent outfit.

    Recruit noodle-armed pantywaists and fat arsed womynses, combine with terrified politically-driven upper management and this is what happens.

    Wankers.

  166. MemoryFault

    If he touches our Super for a CV-19 bailout, he’ll be unelectable.

    It will be wrapped in a nice package, Egg.
    It will be “repurposed” into important infrastructure, like wind farms, tidal generators, and batteries. Fabulous returns will be hinted at, plus the security of government backing.
    It will all be made to sound quite attractive, when the time comes.
    It will all be BS, but that’s par for the course with our major party politicians.

  167. Sinclair Davidson

    Graeme – your latest manifestation got uncovered and smote.

  168. Des Deskperson

    Speaking of Albo and women, there is a story going around Canberra about how he – verbally – abused a young female media advisor.

    The advisor had reportedly included some data provided by Albo’s Chief of Staff in a media release. The data was erroneous and the Chief of Staff – a bloke – blamed the media advisor. So Albo allegedly called her up and told her, among other things, to euthanise herself.

    Well, at least he didn’t say ‘kill yourself’

    According to the story, she could her the Chief of Staff in the background telling Albo ‘The bitch is lying’ -charming!

    Anyway, she was able to document the fact that the errors came from the Chief of Staff. We don’t know whether Albo apologised.

    The reported use of the term ‘bitch’ in any politician’s office is troubling. Ever since the slut shaming of Emma Husar, I’ve wonder whether the ALP, for all its Emily’s List preening, has a systemic issue with women.

  169. Mater

    VicPol taking a knee.

    Why is anyone surprised?
    Arky and I told you all what VicPol did to us at the Lauren Southern event, in Melbourne.
    They deliberately fed us to the mob, then threatened to arrest us when seeking refuge behind them.

  170. Cassie of Sydney

    “The Guardian has a photo of one of ’em, Antoinette Lattouf – some-never-heard-of from Channel 10 News evidently.”

    I have seen this “Antoinette Lattouf” on Sky…she is an angry, vacuous and tedious hag who sprouts vicious hate and identity politics and that all Australians are waaaaaaacist.

  171. miltonf

    Never heard of her I’m glad to say.

  172. Everything old is new again.

    Today’s Antifa-obsessed hard right politicians are rehashing the ideas of 1930s fascists.

    As public disorder has swept across the US in protest against police brutality, many on the right have blamed “Antifa” for the disorder. Donald Trump pronounced on Twitter that he would be implementing an executive order proscribing Antifa as a terrorist organisation.

    A number of people have pointed out that there is no legal mechanism for Trump to do this (there is a Foreign Terrorist Organisation list, but no such list exists for groups inside the US). In fact, Antifa is not an organisation; it is a moniker used to describe militant anti-fascism. Yet Trump had previously called Antifa a terrorist organisation in 2019 and there has been pressure by Republicans for law enforcement to treat Antifa as such.

    Figures on the hard right across the English speaking world have taken up Trump’s portrayal of Antifa as terrorism, with Conservative Party of Canada candidate Derek Sloan announcing on Twitter that he would also designate Antifa as terrorists if made prime minister. In the UK, the Brexit Party’s Nigel Farage said this week that he had first labelled Antifa “domestic terrorists” in 2017.

  173. Bruce of Newcastle

    Apparently you can’t survive indefinitely on omelettes and rice cracker biscuits with cheese.

    Bread makes noisy miners. Noisy miners fed enough bread lay eggs which hatch into baby noisy miners. More bread turns baby noisy miners into adult noisy miners.

    So eggs and bread can support whole generations of small grey birds. I don’t give them rice crackers or cheese.

    A few spiders, found amongst the bushes, do seem to be a useful nutritional supplement though. Maybe we humans should consider arachnids also.

  174. Bruce in WA

    If you’re buying a pre-cooked roast (and I have to admit they’re not ‘alf bad, Mum), why mess about making gravy?

    There is a while range of finishing sauces and gravies to match just about any meal — just heat and serve; or, if you’re like me, add a few drops of Tabasco or Worcestershire or whatever to “personalise” it.

  175. Knuckle Dragger

    The Sunday Mail in Qld’s teeing off from the back pegs at gummint over these idiot fests from yesterday.

    And rightly so.

    Where are you, CHOs? Where’s your granny-killing outrage? Where are your fat Auslan chicks now?

    The man-bunning PR outfits will be raking in the double-time trying to spin this one.

  176. max

    Mr Rusty
    #3477317, posted on June 7, 2020 at 10:17 am

    If your blood is not white hot molten boiling angry, there’s something wrong with you.

    I came away from mass online this morning with such feelings – still struggling with them.

    The homily adverted to Trump’s holding up the Bible and the opinion of the woman bishop that this was blasphemy. The streets were cleared with teargas and truncheons to facilitate this opportunity and yet our readings this morning were all about a God of gentleness and kindness, hence blasphemy.

    No mention of Trump being the only President to take action against abortion or Obama’s enthusiastic promotion of it or o Obama’s action against the Daughters of Charity.

    The modern Catholic church is unbelievable. Cooked and cucked.

  177. miltonf

    They deliberately fed us to the mob, then threatened to arrest us when seeking refuge behind them.

    Just getting worse with that outfit. Bracks’s quiet revolution.

  178. miltonf

    The modern Catholic church is unbelievable. Cooked and cucked.

    Do’t forget that they gave Alinsky an award in the 60s.

  179. cohenite

    Having an exchange with a leftie acquaintance who is defending the blm riots and I remarked the riots in Australia had been organised by the commie party; his reply, no they haven’t, they had been organised by extinction rebellion; how the fuck do you respond to that level of stupidity.

  180. Cassie of Sydney

    “Just getting worse with that outfit. Bracks’s quiet revolution.”

    And for four years Baillieu and Napthine did nothing….absolutely nothing.

  181. Bruce of Newcastle

    Lefty Independent thinks Antifa is a myth?
    Haha.

  182. notafan

    Max

    Woman bishop?

    Catholic?

    Not computing.

    I got an excellent, orthodox homily this morning.

  183. Cassie of Sydney

    “Why is anyone surprised?”

    Have VicPol tracked down Bolt’s attackers?

  184. miltonf

    Yep. I think Napthine’s an alright guy actually but he had a pretty lousy hand dealt to him.

  185. Geriatric Mayfly

    VicPol taking a knee.

    Thou shalt not have false gods before Me.

  186. cohenite

    I think the troll should be banned to honour the actions of the guy who stood up at the blm orgy with a sign saying all lives matter and got arrested; plus all the people, black and white who came out to clean up after the arseholes and got abused by scumbags for doing so; and for Rowan Dean because he’s a great bloke and the troll is a piece of dog-shit by comparison.

  187. miltonf

    People who stop believing in God will believe in anything. Chesterton?

  188. MemoryFault

    Bread makes noisy miners. Noisy miners fed enough bread lay eggs which hatch into baby noisy miners. More bread turns baby noisy miners into adult noisy miners.

    Might be good for noisy miners, Bruce.
    But noisy bloggers? Not so much.

  189. Eddystone

    VicPol taking a knee.

    Be quite the struggle for those porkers to stand upright again.

  190. Fisky

    Really bad libertarian take –

    Eric July
    @EricDJuly
    I’m all for self governance. Defund the police.

    But also get rid of all the taxation, all the gun control laws, and all of the laws that prevent deadly force in protection of private property.

    If you’re going to do it, don’t half ass do it or replace it with another PD.

  191. Cassie of Sydney

    “and for Rowan Dean because he’s a great bloke and the troll is a piece of dog-shit by comparison.”

    Rowan is a great bloke and his spray today was sublime.

    As for the Toowoomba racist and all round dog turd…..he has no friends which is why he is here.

  192. Steve trickler

    #Nowyouarenotfamous.



  193. notafan

    I dunno BoN

    The pope gives lots of homilies.

    Maybe South America (and other third world areas) do have serious issues around desertification, soil erosion and pollution that urgently need addressing.

    sometimes it’s real

  194. miltonf

    The of the last four or so days is further evidence that the political-administrative class have torn up the social contract.

  195. cohenite

    I’ve been watching Greg Gutfield, a libertarian, who is one of the better social commentators on Fox almost losing it lately as he recounts how his NY neighbourhood was destroyed; I’ve been watching the vast number of acts of violence by the blm scum and I’m wondering when are people going to retaliate. Bongino had a great idea of perp walking these bastards but of course the media would not cooperate. Generally non leftists do not have the violent base that leftists do have and in every case of video where some poor mongrel is bashed to either senselessness or death they have either tried to talk to the blm scum, defend their property with a stick or been by themselves. So lessons:

    Never confront the left by yourself
    Always overarm yourself when dealing with the left
    Never reveal your identity to the left

    Most of all to beat the left you have to use their tactics; they have to be quarantined and revealed. Giving the left a voice anywhere is a mistake the right have been making for decades.

  196. Bruce of Newcastle

    Lefty regimes despoil the environment.
    Maybe Francis should chastise them, not democracies.
    Greening of Earth is a thing, also.

  197. Ed Case

    Fabulous returns will be hinted at, plus the security of government backing.
    It will all be made to sound quite attractive, when the time comes.
    It will all be BS, but that’s par for the course with our major party politicians.

    Let’s assume all this is true, Fault.
    Where’s the problem, compared to the present situation where Funds ”invest” in Renewables anyway,
    returns have been miniscule for years, and massive fee gouging is part of the experience?

  198. Cassie of Sydney

    “miltonf
    #3477500, posted on June 7, 2020 at 1:10 pm
    The of the last four or so days is further evidence that the political-administrative class have torn up the social contract.”

    That’s how I feel…….it is over.

  199. Geriatric Mayfly

    Lefty regimes despoil the environment.
    Maybe Francis should chastise them, not democracies.

    Frank has some ongoing shady dealings with the PRC, so he won’t be giving them a serve.

  200. Boambee John

    I’m interested in everything, but primarily in reality.

    For certain meanings of the word “reality”, as Bill Clinton might have said.

    Bin chicken thinks that reality can be found somewhere in the garbage bin of fascist-left “thought”.

    Sad!

  201. miltonf

    Cassie I think a lot of us here worked that out years ago but it gets more and more in your face as the months go by.

  202. miltonf

    The kneeling police thing is Maoist.

  203. miltonf

    It was very hip in the 70s to be a Maoist. I think even Whitlam dabbled in a bit of self criticism (not too much ofcourse!!).

  204. MemoryFault

    Where’s the problem, compared to the present situation where Funds ”invest” in Renewables anyway,

    Up until recently Super funds in the main were getting reasonable returns.
    For instance Sunsuper was returning gross 8 to 9%.
    However, once the government gets their hands on it, it will all evaporate over time and ultimately become just a variable rate pension. This was all spelled out in the Conway(?) Report, and the Government Response. back in September 2014.

  205. Gab

    Sadly the pope has succumbed to virtue-signalling. Those of us who believe in the one true God, we blessed remnants, understand the Pope’s main purpose is the conversion of sinners and saving of souls. Pandering to leftist eco-loonism is not going to achieve any of that.

  206. Pedro the Loafer

    VicPol “taking a knee”.

    Mind boggling.

    Understandable for the Batman belted mini cop chicks, no way do they want to mess up their hair in hand to hand combat with rioters, but any bloke who kneels down to these morons, either off his own bat or under orders to do so should hand in his testicles forthwith.

    I reckon I would die of shame if I knelt down in the face a threat.

  207. EvilElvis

    Cassie I think a lot of us here worked that out years ago but it gets more and more in your face as the months go by.

    Beat me to it.

    It gets worse from here. The soulless idle mob is just working out how brazen they can be.

  208. Ed Case

    This from iSteve, titled Why They Didn’t Let Women Joust

  209. calli

    Report from church, Covid-style.

    Chairs @ 1.5m centres, hand sanitiser and a pre-recorded service (insufficient bandwidth to livestream). And many…many cheerful faces (max 50) making the best of the whole sorry situation. Mostly oldies as the children can’t be catered for in the current restrictions, so families are home.

    And rumblings of anger at yesterday’s nation-wide debacle. Some are now realising what I have known since this thing started – the Church in the west is under overt attack. Daniel Greenfield has an excellent article over at his site about the other target – the synagogues. Suggest you read it.

  210. candy

    I wonder if the protestors will advocate to cancel the Queen’s Birthday public holiday? evil colonialism and all that.
    You’d think Premier Andrews would be the first to do so.

    Trouble is public servants would protest if anyone suggested it, even if they are full on for a republic and despite their “whitey” past.

  211. Boambee John

    In fact, Antifa is not an organisation; it is a moniker used to describe militant anti-fascism.

    And yet, strangely, this non “organisation” has a “handbook”, published in Australia by that bastion of intellectual thought Melbourne University Press. Didn’t they publish the memoirs of a particularly scummy criminal too?

  212. Geriatric Mayfly

    VicPol “taking a knee”.
    Mind boggling.

    Not quite at the ultimate end in submission yet. Remember, victims are forced to kneel while someone from the RoP lops off their head.

  213. calli

    The kneeling thing is very disturbing, as is the enforced face-covering (England for now, but coming to us).

    These things have meaning.

  214. Eddystone

    Defund the police!

    Why not?

    At least the police then wouldn’t be able to stop ordinary citizens from restoring law and order. Maintaining law and order is the duty of every citizen.

  215. thefrollickingmole

    More footage, colourised, of the Vicpol head kneeling before the BLM boss. 2020.

  216. Cassie of Sydney

    “miltonf
    #3477508, posted on June 7, 2020 at 1:22 pm
    Cassie I think a lot of us here worked that out years ago but it gets more and more in your face as the months go by.”

    Well yes…and what was allowed to happen was a big F*CK YOU to ordinary Australians.

  217. Gab

    Report from church, BLM style

    Packed church, choir in fine voice, no social distancing, completely ignoring those ridiculous covid laws, hand sanitisers replaced with Holy water, huge BLM flags out the front of the church.

    All good.

  218. JC

    Rassie poll shows the orange oaf has ~ 42% support in the black community. A pretty decent economist reckons the employment numbers in the US will be below 6% by November. I don’t agree… just because I don’t… but he also reckons the Fed will be tightening by the end of the year.

    What’s interesting about this non-recession recession is that personal income actually rose in the period of the China-bug lockdown because of the federal government transfer payments. That does NOT happen in a regular recession. It’s been characterized as supply side shock, which by definition is very short term generally, and shit comes back really quickly.

    The dude presented an interesting analogy. A “recession” occurs every year in Southern Europe during August as the countries close down for summer vacation. It’s a recession in a technical sense but we expect it as people head back to work at the end of the month. Production was halted through legislation

    US Stocks and bank stocks in particular are heading back up in a huge way. They will break their decade highs made in January by January 2021.

  219. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Knuckle Dragger at 12:49 pm:

    “The Sunday Mail in Qld’s teeing off from the back pegs at gummint over these idiot fests from yesterday.”

    I jumped in to have a look and found this gem – you can note this moron down as a likely future person of interest to police in an early Sunday morning nightclub incident-event (I have recounted it in full because of the News firewall, and because people really need to see the crazed and dangerous product of decades of shameful, contemptible brainwashing by evil teachers and manipulative black race baiters):

    NRL player unapologetic over protest actions

    Cronulla Sharks contracted player Cruz Topai-Aveai isn’t apologising after his outburst during a Black Lives Matter protest in Brisbane on Saturday.

    The second rower was filmed swearing at police as he held onto the bullbar of their car before he climbed on top of the vehicle.

    Fellow protesters urged the hulking 21-year-old to climb down as he unloaded a foul mouthed tirade.

    After eventually climbing off the roof of the vehicle, Topai-Aveai – nicknamed “crazy” – ran into a public toilet before being detained but not arrested, according to the Courier Mail.

    The Sharks player posted updates of the protests throughout the day before explaining what led to his outburst.

    “Yes this is me. If you have any questions, shoot me a dm,” he wrote on Facebook.

    “Know the story behind the video, you didn’t see the part where I bust a locked door open to escape so I could calm down, I weeped on my brother Jalen Reweti shoulder and had his beautiful partner Tupu there to help calm me.

    “I am furious. I am angry. I am young. I am dumb. I am whatever you think I am.

    “Most of all I am fed up of Police abusing their privilege to wear their uniform.”

    The Sharks listed player, who has yet to make his NRL debut, continued to speak out on social media as he posted the footage of himself grappling with the police car before climbing on top.

    “This is for my brothers and sisters who have been oppressed for 100s of years by the White man. They’ve treated us like dogs for centuries, they’ve painted us with dirty brushes and they’ve created a system where only the white survive. Do your research mother f***ers,” he wrote.”

    You will go a long way before reading distorted maniacal garbage piled as high as this:

    “If you are offended that I swear and miss the message … you sir are apart of the f***en problem. I love Christ. He lives within me which makes me fearless to all men. Only God I fear.

    “This was hurt and pain for my brothers and sisters who have had to suffer years of pain under the white law! THIS IS MY PROTEST AT A “PEACEFUL PROTEST” love it or leave it. I don’t care. This is Me, this is the Cruz the system designed.”

    or delusion as dangerous as this:

    “They want to treat us and our beloved ancestors with cruelty and disrespect like we are caged animals … I’ll give you a caged animal.”

    It’s 6’3″ and 112 kilograms – you wouldn’t let it loose in the far paddock half a day’s ride distant!

    If Cronulla Sharks have any appreciation of “early warning indicators” they will have the head doctors going over this neanderthal with magnifying glasses, before sending it away pronto.

    I would hope the parents of junior players in the Shire would give the Club a wide berth until they do.

    This behaviour is bloody outrageous.

  220. miltonf

    I wonder if the protestors will advocate to cancel the Queen’s Birthday public holiday? evil colonialism and all that.

    The left aren’t as fixated on the royals as they once were and the royals have gone over top the dark side anyway. Maybe not the Queen and the DofE but it’s a bit maybe.

  221. JC

    My two disclaimers

    1 trump must win the election. I began to think he will late week.
    2 no second wave. That’s becoming less of a possibility I think.

  222. Eddystone

    We are seeing how a violent, lawless minority renders a politicised police “service” useless.

    Watching the submissive kneeling is horrifying. Appeasing the mob never ends well.

  223. Bruce of Newcastle

    This from iSteve, titled Why They Didn’t Let Women Joust

    Women joust. They bring a precision to jousting which men don’t manage as well. It’s an exact sport.

    Saw two lady ‘knights’ joust at Ironfest in Lithgow once. Very competent, equal or better than the guys because of the precision thing.

    Of course to joust you need a suit of plate, and a shield, which the lady in the vid could’ve done with.

  224. C.L.

    The two men who came to this surfer’s aid either get the Cross of Valour or the award may as well be abolished.

  225. slackster

    Someone did a count of some of the protesters in DC today
    https://imgur.com/a/1RAjSea

  226. Geriatric Mayfly

    And yet, strangely, this non “organisation” has a “handbook”, published in Australia by that bastion of intellectual thought Melbourne University Press. Didn’t they publish the memoirs of a particularly scummy criminal too?

    And the ramblings of Mizzzz Milligan.

  227. miltonf

    Yes it was a big EFF YOU to the forgotten people.

  228. thefrollickingmole

    Moist/Turgid resorting to “words meanings dont matter” again.

    terrorism
    /ˈtɛrərɪzəm/
    Learn to pronounce
    noun
    noun: terrorism
    the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
    “the fight against terrorism”

  229. miltonf

    Actually the switcheroo from lockdown to street marches is pure Orwell. Remember when the war with Eurasia ended and they were suddenly Oceania’s gallant allies? Or was it Eastasia?

  230. one old bruce

    Here’s the Vicpol pic.

  231. rickw

    Defund the police!

    Something I could really get behind! As long unfettered gun ownership follows!

  232. one old bruce

    Maybe I don’t have posting rights, if it doesn’t show. Oh well worth a try.

  233. miltonf

    What the political class, on instruction from the administrative class, did the Australian economy in an few weeks is a speeded up version of what they’ve been doing at least since Howard brought in the RET.

  234. thefrollickingmole

    C.L.

    This is Austfailia, more likely the RSPCA will press charges for depriving the fish of a meal.

  235. cohenite

    C.L.
    #3477533, posted on June 7, 2020 at 1:43 pm
    The two men who came to this surfer’s aid either get the Cross of Valour or the award may as well be abolished.

    The shark is described as 3 meters; looks bigger.

  236. Pubs seem to have most beers on tap… Shortages might have been from flat footed suppliers & publicans not expecting the relaxing of the rules.

    Brewing a “run” of kegs is not a swift exercise.
    The time frame from a brewery doing a “run” to beer being on tap in a pub is close to two weeks, possibly shorter with excellent distribution chain in metro areas handy to the brewery.
    Only one beer can be made at at time, as many breweries have the capacity to make only one “run” at a time.
    Today we start on a run of, say, Toohey’s, tomorrow after that we’ll make a run of Toohey’s Light, then Toohey’s Gold.
    It’ll be a while before we get around to O’Shea’s Old Style Irish Horse Piss. (Y’all got the picture anyway)

    Compounded by every bar in the country ordering double, as they’re empty & starting from scratch.

    Compounded even more by the sudden ramping up of the time frame.
    NSW had one working day of notice that they’d be allowed to be in business.

    It takes about Three days to get the coldroom down to temperature, then another three to chill the kegs down to match it.

  237. Roger

    There is a while range of finishing sauces and gravies to match just about any meal…

    You mean ruin any meal…they’re pretty aweful, Bruce.

    Coles seems to have picked up on this and has recently brought out a premium line of gravies & sauces in competition. The red wine jus isn’t bad.

  238. Mr Rusty #3477317, posted on June 7, 2020 at 10:17 am
    If your blood is not white hot molten boiling angry, there’s something wrong with you.

    Mr Rusty, please, which state was this?

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