The roots of Antifa as a tool of communist revolutionary politics

Probably essential reading.

To begin at the beginning: Antifa—real name: Antifaschisitsche Aktion—was born during the street-fights of the 1932 Weimar Republic. It was founded by the Stalinist Communist Party of Germany (KPD), although various Communist “anti-fascist defense” units were associated with the KPD much earlier.

Anti-fascist Action’s sole purpose was to help the Stalinists combat other political parties for control of the streets in the revolutionary politics of the rapidly failing Weimar Republic.

And yes, they fought the Nazis.

But they also fought liberal parties, conservative parties, and anyone and everyone who got in their way. While these early antecedents were short-lived, it is useful to view Antifa in this context.  More than anything, Antifa exists to serve as a tool of revolutionary politics in a failed (or failing) state.

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41 Responses to The roots of Antifa as a tool of communist revolutionary politics

  1. Mark M

    Yes, We Mean Literally Abolish the Police
    NTY: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/12/opinion/sunday/floyd-abolish-defund-police.html

    >> Let’s experiment with this.

    ‘Progressives’ and their businesses should put signs on their front doors — “No Police Protection Desired.”

    h/t: Steve Milloy – @JunkScience

  2. Herodotus

    Antifa and the Democrats make a tag team, each now as bad as the other.
    Here it’s Antifa with The Greens.

  3. Bruce of Newcastle

    The usual appropriate response in a law abiding society is to ban the organization and prosecute the members.

    If this had occurred in Weimar Germany, and both the Nazis and the Communists banned and arrested, Europe may not have suffered WW2 (provided they were likewise firm with Stalin). Once the Nazis got in they did ban the Communists, but that was like syphilis purging gonorrhea. The idea is to not catch either disease.

    Unfortunately Democrat-led governments regard Antifa as their own supporters, or at least allies, so this necessary suppression doesn’t happen.

  4. PoliticoNT

    The only ABC service I access these days is the Jazz streaming station. Nothing else. (And even in that space I’m actively seeking [& finding] alternatives so I can excise the ABC from my life.)

    There’s an element of my working life that often requires an up to the minute awareness of what’s in the media. ABC editorial & production weirdness is now becoming a risk, so where possible we avoid the ABC as a source. Worrying though is the sheer number of AS-and-above APS officers where I work who depend on the ABC as their key news source.

  5. Crossie

    More than anything, Antifa exists to serve as a tool of revolutionary politics in a failed (or failing) state.

    Antifa are the political counterpart of COVID-19, an opportunistic disease that attacks a weakened host. They are not how we got here, that was caused by our own “intelligentsia” and the Left knows that. What did Khmer Rouge do first when they got in? Slaughtered anyone with any education to make sure they don’t get undermined in the same way.

    Trump declaring antifa a terrorist organisation was a good move but can the compromised FBI do their job to prevent a revolution. In essence, this will be the FBI’s opportunity to redeem themselves with the American public. And whither goest the US so does the rest of the world, eventually.

  6. Crossie

    Herodotus
    #3484752, posted on June 14, 2020 at 6:48 am
    Antifa and the Democrats make a tag team, each now as bad as the other.
    Here it’s Antifa with The Greens.

    Labor don’t have a problem with them at all.

  7. Crossie

    Worrying though is the sheer number of AS-and-above APS officers where I work who depend on the ABC as their key news source.

    In a previous age they would have been right. The unreliability of the ABC doesn’t worry me as much as the bullying that is now their stock in trade and they are not the only ones. All mainstream media are now the Big Brother who will hound anyone they don’t like and throw them to the baying Twitter “crowds”.

    The reason I have quotation marks around crowds is that Twitter is used by a small section of the public yet they pretend as if it’s everyone. Facebook has a far greater reach but is still not as viscous as Twitter. I suppose that’s something to look forward to.

  8. IainC

    Stalin learnt all he needed to know about 1900s revolutionary tactics, ideological purity and the crushing of opponents from Marx. Hitler learnt all he needed to know about 1920s revolutionary street violence, the value of propaganda and liquidation of opponents from Stalin’s 1900s-1910s tactics. Antifa learnt all they needed to know about 1930s revolutionary street violence and ideological purity from Marx’s, Stalin’s and Hitler’s tactics. Mao learnt all he needed to know about 1940s-1960s revolutionary street violence and mob destruction of culture and history from Marx’s, Stalin’s, Hitler’s and Antifa’s tactics. Modern Antifa learnt all they needed to know about revolutionary street violence, the value of propaganda, ideological purity, smashing of opponents, and mob destruction of culture and history from Marx’s, Mao’s, Stalin’s and Hitler’s tactics. Isn’t it marvellous how learning is passed down from generation to generation?

  9. Entropy

    PoliticoNT
    #3484761, posted on June 14, 2020 at 7:35 am
    The only ABC service I access these days is the Jazz streaming station. Nothing else. (And even in that space I’m actively seeking [& finding] alternatives so I can excise the ABC from my life.)

    any music steaming service (Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube et al) will have a better playlist and music discovery service than that dinosaur.

  10. Roger

    The usual appropriate response in a law abiding society is to ban the organization and prosecute the members.

    It is reported that the DoJ is about to bring federal charges against 50 Antifa activists in the first tranche of prosecutions resulting from the recent riots. Many of those charges carry serious prison time.

  11. Mustapha Bunn

    These Antifa people need to read up on history..
    The German Communist Party .. KPD.
    Of the 68 leading KPD figures who fled Hitler’s Germany and went to live in the Soviet Union,48 were killed. Overall 70% of German communist exiles were killed in Stalin’s brutal political purges. The Stalinist regime had deemed them too wedded to ideas of internationalism enshrined in the Comintern or portrayed them as favourable to the ideas of Leon Trotsky.It is an irony to note that Stalin was responsible for more of the deaths of the leading figures of the KPD than Hitler.
    C.Epstein – “The last revolutionaries”. German Communists and their century.
    Cambridge M.A. Harvard University Press. Page 34.

  12. Bazinga

    If terrorists then Guantanamo?

  13. Suburban Boy

    Of the 68 leading KPD figures who fled Hitler’s Germany and went to live in the Soviet Union,48 were killed. Overall 70% of German communist exiles were killed in Stalin’s brutal political purges.

    We should all remember Robert Conquest’s admonition: we should admire Stalin, because he killed more communists than anyone else in history.

  14. Clam Chowdah

    I understand one of their key policies was that everything should be taught in school except history.

  15. Professor Fred Lenin

    Its the globalist Red Guard , probably financed by Soros who wants to wreck society before he dies ,he likes fascists ,he ran errands for the National Socialists collaborators in Hungary durlng the war and amazingly was one of the few of his religion who survivec the holocaust. When they have achieved the goal their owners will eliminate them , be a threat to the new fascist leaders .

  16. Tel

    We should all remember Robert Conquest’s admonition: we should admire Stalin, because he killed more communists than anyone else in history.

    Killing communists does not appear to reduce the number of communists. You can’t fight envy, it simply pops up again and again … ideas (especially emotional ideas) are invulnerable to physical attack.

  17. Mmyes, the real problem in 1930s Germany was the anti-fascists. Good take, Rafe.

  18. candy

    Antifa are different from other revolutionary groups though, because of the anonymity, masks etc. We never see or hear their leaders, but there is organisation there.

    It might be really surprising to find out who is actually a registered Antifa member in Australia – it could easily be people of middle class and upwards. People innately attracted by violence, masks, raiding, all in anonymity as a form of excitement.

  19. Roger

    Mmyes, the real problem in 1930s Germany was the anti-fascists. Good take, Rafe.

    Please point out where that claim was made, monty.

  20. Jock

    I think Stalin said, first the brown shirts then the red. He saw Nazis as socialists who couldn’t go the full communist.

  21. Crossie

    It might be really surprising to find out who is actually a registered Antifa member in Australia – it could easily be people of middle class and upwards. People innately attracted by violence, masks, raiding, all in anonymity as a form of excitement.

    That is always the case, poor people are simply interested in improving their financial position within the system they inhabit. Survival is exciting enough for them. It’s the rich and comfortable middle classes who have the time and the means to wreck the society but they know they can’t sell that to the majority so they espouse the bogus racial or so-called working class causes.

  22. Roger

    It might be really surprising to find out who is actually a registered Antifa member in Australia – it could easily be people of middle class and upwards.

    Why the rich are revolting.

    “You’ve got that eternal idiotic idea that if anarchy came it would come from the poor. Why should it? The poor have been rebels, but they have never been anarchists; they have more interest than anyone else in there being some decent government. The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn’t; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all. Aristocrats were always anarchists”

    ― G.K. Chesterton, The Man Who Was Thursday (1908)

  23. Crossie

    The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all. Aristocrats were always anarchists”

    I’ll have to disagree here with G. K. Chesterton. The rich and aristocrats are not into anarchy but authority, their authority. Anarchy is a vehicle to achieve it, for tearing up the status quo and then impose the order of their choosing. Current version of democracy is not to their taste, the lower classes are not deferential enough. Feudalism is where we are heading if we are not careful.

  24. John A

    Mark M #3484745, posted on June 14, 2020, at 5:44 am

    Yes, We Mean Literally Abolish the Police
    NTY: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/12/opinion/sunday/floyd-abolish-defund-police.html

    >> Let’s experiment with this.

    ‘Progressives’ and their businesses should put signs on their front doors — “No Police Protection Desired.”

    h/t: Steve Milloy – @JunkScience

    If police protection is removed, no doubt some enterprising individuals (or a group) with muscle will offer protection, of a different kind, for a fee.

    What was that old admonition: “Be careful what you wish for, you may just get it!”?

  25. John A

    Crossie #3484997, posted on June 14, 2020, at 1:04 pm

    The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all. Aristocrats were always anarchists”

    I’ll have to disagree here with G. K. Chesterton. The rich and aristocrats are not into anarchy but authority, their authority. Anarchy is a vehicle to achieve it, for tearing up the status quo and then impose the order of their choosing. Current version of democracy is not to their taste, the lower classes are not deferential enough. Feudalism is where we are heading if we are not careful.

    I think there is more to clarify in Chesterton’s analysis. I read him to mean that the aristocrats didn’t want externally imposed authority interfering with them. They wanted their own rule, rather than anarchy, that is, the same Original Sin “you will be as God, knowing good and evil.”

  26. Chris M

    On this subject I’d say this is essential reading also, Dennis Prager:

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/prager-the-four-horsemen-of-americas-apocalypse

  27. Roger

    I wouldn’t over think Chesterton’s quote – it comes from a novel, after all.

    But I think he latched on to something that has come to the fore in our day: the contrast between the ‘somewheres’, people rooted to a place by work and family ties, and the ‘anywheres’, people whose living is made in cosmopolitan capital cities dependant upon globalism, mass immigration etc.. It’s a division that crops up time and again in modern politics. Modern day Antifa may draw inspiration from anti-fascist movements of the past and spout anarcho-communist slogans, but I believe they are really rootless bourgoise ‘anywheres’ agitating for a bigger slice of the pie for themselves.

  28. dover_beach

    Monty, which statutes do you want destroyed?

  29. Clam Chowdah

    Mmyes, the real problem in 1930s Germany was the anti-fascists. Good take, Rafe.

    Both sides were bad news. But yes, continue to defend the indefensible. Prat.

  30. Tom

    Stalin learnt all he needed to know about 1900s revolutionary tactics, ideological purity and the crushing of opponents from Marx. Hitler learnt all he needed to know about 1920s revolutionary street violence, the value of propaganda and liquidation of opponents from Stalin’s 1900s-1910s tactics. Antifa learnt all they needed to know about 1930s revolutionary street violence and ideological purity from Marx’s, Stalin’s and Hitler’s tactics. Mao learnt all he needed to know about 1940s-1960s revolutionary street violence and mob destruction of culture and history from Marx’s, Stalin’s, Hitler’s and Antifa’s tactics. Modern Antifa learnt all they needed to know about revolutionary street violence, the value of propaganda, ideological purity, smashing of opponents, and mob destruction of culture and history from Marx’s, Mao’s, Stalin’s and Hitler’s tactics. Isn’t it marvellous how learning is passed down from generation to generation?

    Comment of the thread from IaianC.

  31. theleftfootkick

    They were desperate to get control of Paris before the allies arrived

  32. billie

    wait, there’s a list ?

    ok, that yellow thing in Melbourne, they had to move it since it was so awful.

    umm .. gosh, I don’t know where to start but we could look up the Arts Grants listing for a guide .. just an idea, most of them are utter welfare trawling rubbish

  33. Squirrel

    Most interesting – as was today’s history lesson on The Outsiders about the links between BLM and the Black Panthers and other dangerous groups of earlier times.

  34. theleftfootkick

    I read that, thanks

  35. theleftfootkick

    Yes there is wealth of recruiting to the cause to be found, perhaps in places called schools. Vacant minds waiting for the void to be filled.

  36. Nob

    The longest lasting physical Antifa monument of great cultural significance was surely the impressive Antifaschistischer Schutzwall.

    Sadly now destroyed by , erm, evil mining companies, wasn’t it?

  37. jupes

    This is why an accurate knowledge of history is sooooo important.

    And also why it is the duty of the Prime Minister to join in the history wars, not squib it like SloMo did yesterday.

    To squib it is to admit the ignoramuses are correct.

  38. “Squirrel #3485176, posted on June 14, 2020 at 5:40 pm: Most interesting – as was today’s history lesson on The Outsiders about the links between BLM and the Black Panthers and other dangerous groups”.

    One of those other dangerous groups is climate science.

    https://tambonthongchai.com/2020/06/11/racism-and-climate-change/

  39. The Beer Whisperer

    The reason I have quotation marks around crowds is that Twitter is used by a small section of the public yet they pretend as if it’s everyone. Facebook has a far greater reach but is still not as viscous as Twitter.

    Crossie, Facebook doesn’t easily enable anonymity, so opposing views can’t be aired. Twitter on the other hand enables anonymity so well that almost all actual names say the right things, while the fake ones say what they really think. The leftist echo chamber on Twitter is hence under siege, unlike SpaceChook.

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