Everyone knows idiots like these

Via Instapundit, with a couple of comments below.

Sure wish I could meet an intelligent progressive. I’m in my fifties and it hasn’t happened yet. I’ve tried to have conversations with a few self-styled ones. It never takes long to conclude they don’t know much of anything. Not even stuff you would you think they might like literature, art or theater. Science, math, economics; don’t even try that.

Same experience . Amazing. What sets off progressives from others is that it is simply impossible to tell a progressive anything. They have no embarrassment being completely wrong on any particular issue regarding the facts. They have their beliefs. It is really amazing. For example, some years back a progressive younger friend bought a Prius to help reduce the CO2 in the atm. I asked him how much CO2 was in the atmosphere. He said about 20%. This young fellow was university educated, very smart, and a H.S. math teacher. When I told him the truth, (0.35%), he just shrugged off his abysmal ignorance. The facts just don’t matter to these people. On the other had, I know plenty of “blue collar types.” and they actually are much more fact driven than the college educated types. The only conclusion is that the progressives are a cult.

We have created such prosperity and immensely high per capita productivity that even morons survive.

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138 Responses to Everyone knows idiots like these

  1. Megan

    We have created such prosperity and immensely high per capita productivity that even morons survive.

    Liberty quote!

  2. RobK

    On the other had, I know plenty of “blue collar types.” and they actually are much more fact driven than the college educated types. The only conclusion is that the progressives are a cult.
    Whilst there is a variance in the quality of “blue collar “trades people, in general they practice well established procedures based on experience and practical knowledge.

  3. …that even morons survive.

    True dat, in less enlightened times they wouldn’t exist.

    On another note, I’ve often wondered how many liberty quotes are in existence. They appear to be endless.

  4. Tom

    Sure wish I could meet an intelligent progressive. I’m in my fifties and it hasn’t happened yet.

    Who knew the left would devolve into an infantile death cult that attracts the stupidest people ever born?

    And their useful idiots, like one of my brothers, who’s quite intelligent, but who, as a toddler, felt picked on my the older kids (there were five of us) and thus became a lefty victim because that was his learned instinct. (I love and admire him very much — he runs his own business — but we can’t talk politics).

    And look who the Cat’s most frequent trolls are: an intellectually stupid old man who has never had a job in the real economy; and a public servant who was one of the prime movers in the Kung Flu coup d’etat against democracy. One’s just an idiot, the other a useful idiot.

  5. Tony

    What sets off progressives from others is that it is simply impossible to tell a progressive anything.

    That’s the money quote.

  6. Rohan

    I asked him how much CO2 was in the atmosphere. He said about 20%. This young fellow was university educated, very smart, and a H.S. math teacher. When I told him the truth, (0.35%), he just shrugged off his abysmal ignorance.

    Even that’s not right. It’s too high by roughly a factor of 10 (0.04%)

  7. calli

    He runs a business, Tom? What sort? Does he actually make things?

    I had some prog friends who bought a business. The Mrs had to go out and get a real job before too long because it couldn’t support both of them. Then the inevitable – sold for less than was paid to another progressive hopeful and he gets a real world job to tide them over until retirement.

    They thought there was 40% CO2 in the atmosphere too. Must be a “thing”.

  8. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    hat sets off progressives from others is that it is simply impossible to tell a progressive anything. They have no embarrassment being completely wrong on any particular issue regarding the facts

    it’s not just physical squallor the left love, intellectual squalor, dense meaningless intellectual diarrhea, gives them a woody, the more incomprehensible, impenetrable and meaningless the better:

    What starts out as triumph soon becomes corrupted into a manifesto of distress, leaving only a sense of what could have been and the dawn of a new synthesis.

    As temporal derivatives become clarified through frantic and academic practice, the viewer is left with a tribute to the inaccuracies of our world.

  9. Projection, it’s a hell of a drug.

  10. Siegfried

    If your going to rail against moronic leftists who are not aware of the facts then it’s reasonably important to get the facts correct yourself… percentage of CO2 currently in atmosphere is approx 420 parts per million… simple mathematics will tell you that is 0.042%.

    But what is more important than the raw percentage of CO2 in air, is the impact of any increase! And latest data seems to indicate the what we are being told is the impact by the IPCC on global temp is way too exaggerated….

  11. duncanm

    An intelligent progressive is an ex-progressive.

    Its the classic ‘socialist at 20 unless he has no heart, conservative at 40 unless he has no brain’.

    Adult progressives are eternal children, which is why they congregate in industries where performance is not important, and lack of performance has no consequences.

  12. Siegfried

    I realise this is a quote from Instapundit and not Steve!!

  13. nb

    There are extremely smart leftists.
    Both pure conservatism and pure leftism have a sketchy relationship with facts, and both also make good points.
    At the moment, with the left culturally dominant, it is easy to point to their follies. But when conservatives are ascendant they too build castles of folly.
    Small government is preferable, which is neither conservative nor left.
    Small government is associated with classical liberalism, which is quite different from conservatism, though they have long been in uneasy alliance.
    Key elements of a successful complex society that is pleasant to live in are rule of law, protection of property, freedom to contract, democracy.
    Democracy can be oppressive. The USA is based on the idea that government exists to protect individual freedoms, thus their concept of rights (known as negative rights). Many other democracies are based on the idea that government is here to help. This can work well where there is a society-wide agreement on rule of law, protection of property, freedom to contract, and a general respect for others, but can spin out of control, too.

  14. duncanm

    .. not even instapundit. An instapundit commenter.

    I’ll forgive them the order of magnitude typo. At least its not three orders of magnitude.

  15. stackja

    The usual suspects here supporting socialism.

  16. calli

    It was from a comment, not Steve or the writer at Instapundit – and it was corrected by another commenter.

    Thing is, even with the mistake in decimal point, the prevailing understanding amongst progressives is vastly different to reality. And when you tell them, it just doesn’t matter.

  17. BM

    We have created such prosperity and immensely high per capita productivity that even morons survive.

    It’s worse than that, they don’t just survive, they thrive. Unfortunately when parasites thrive, the host suffers.

  18. calli

    Sorry. Didn’t mean to pile on. My internet’s running slow as a wet week.

  19. Ben

    Progressives live by the song running in their heads.

    A friend just sent me the now infamous Meyne Wyatt QANDA monologue and asked if I had seen this, implying that this adequately expressed her thoughts on the matter, and that I should change my beliefs based on this.

    I asked her if she knew this was a performance piece. I also told her I had been watching that edition of QANDA and had seen it happen, and that immediately afterwards I had downloaded a transcript of the play and read the monologue.

    I told her that basing her beliefs on this was akin to learning about America by listening to Rage Against The Machine (an American hard rock band known for political and racial activism).

    Hopeless.

  20. BM

    There are two kinds of progressive.

    There is the average progressive, who is a moron.

    And then there is the intelligent progressive, who is an oxymoron.

  21. I have here a glass of water containing the same concentration of arsenic as there is concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere. Which of you geniuses is first to skull it?

  22. rickw

    Projection, it’s a hell of a drug.

    Munty, if there was a CAT mission to do anything, anywhere. You would be at the bottom of the selection list. You’re actually useless.

  23. rickw

    I have here a glass of water containing the same concentration of arsenic as there is concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere. Which of you geniuses is first to skull it?

    Low energy, even for you.

  24. Tom

    Projection, it’s a hell of a drug.

    Thanks, Monty (an expert on the subject who lives inside the lefty bubble).

  25. cuckoo

    When I told him the truth, (0.35%), he just shrugged off his abysmal ignorance. The facts just don’t matter to these people.

    Exactly.

  26. cuckoo

    I out myself for missing the error about the CO2 concentration, which otherwise I know perfectly well.

  27. nb

    And the lesson?
    Don’t get polarised, even when all those around you are…
    Two excellent videos forwarding this sentiment:
    John Cleese Cautions of the Dangers of Extremism and the Addiction to it, Over 30 Years Ago:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=fC9FS40CC6c&feature=emb_logo
    Marxist Influence on the George Floyd Protests, Riots & Communist China’s Hidden War—Joshua Philipp, American Thought Leaders – The Epoch Times:

  28. calli

    I wouldn’t drink it, M0nty. I might have it intravenously if I had leukaemia.

  29. Dave of Reedy Creek, Qld. Aust.

    If a picture paints a thousand words, your two pics at the top exceeds that by many times over. Really, liberals and their so called opinions are generated by fanciful tripe from the universities and their AlpBC. I read a classic last night from Scotland where BLM people wanted to pull down a monument to an ancient king who probably never laid eyes on people of colour, they are getting more like ISIS every day. BLM people remind me of the Borg collective on a scifi TV programme, no independent thought, just a drone in the collective!

  30. RobK

    Who would make an equivalence between arsenic and CO2?
    Dumb.

  31. Ah, so an element can can a great effect even at levels such as those of CO2 in the atmosphere? Interesting.

  32. nb

    I agree with Monty. Percentages mean nothing.
    Meanwhile average temperature in my district have declined over the last three years, and, more generally, I consider CO2 induced global warming as probably non-existent (the idea built on models alone), irrelevant, or advantageous.

  33. egg_

    That’s why M0nty was demoted to coin counting at the Bunnings BBQ – couldn’t be trusted near a heat source/producing food fit for human consumption.

  34. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Who would make an equivalence between arsenic and CO2?

    An illiterate innumerate fact and evidence free ahistorical anti-scientific imbecile.

  35. egg_

    Mars must be boiling with all that CO2.

  36. Iampeter

    Sure wish I could meet an intelligent progressive. I’m in my fifties and it hasn’t happened yet. I’ve tried to have conversations with a few self-styled ones. It never takes long to conclude they don’t know much of anything. Not even stuff you would you think they might like literature, art or theater. Science, math, economics; don’t even try that.

    Well, the same can be said about most conservatives over 50.
    In fact, even the most clueless progressive isn’t never arguing for capitalism by accident, the way even conservative “thinkers” are arguing for socialism without even realizing it.
    As bad and left wing as progressives are, conservatives tend to be worse.

    What sets off progressives from others is that it is simply impossible to tell a progressive anything. They have no embarrassment being completely wrong on any particular issue regarding the facts.

    Um, wow. Glass houses. Stones. Throwing. Shouldn’t do. Etc.

  37. egg_

    I have here a glass of water containing the same concentration of arsenic as there is concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere. Which of you geniuses is first to skull it?

    Everything has its toxicity threshold – even pure water.

  38. Charles

    I have here a glass of water containing the same concentration of arsenic as there is concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere. Which of you geniuses is first to skull it?

    Here’s the problem Monty, you are thinking having enough of an atmospheric molecule that can absorb a significant amount of radiation which can change the temperature of the 2500 molecules around it that can’t absorb it, is the same as absorbing a minute amount of chemical which can disrupt a metabolic system. It is not.

    In the former, it is a massive (i.e. planetary size) exercise in physics and would be akin to a rabbit lifting a car and throwing it about. Spoiler alert: there is not enough CO2 in the atmosphere to do what you think it can.

    What you have come up with here is a comparison that is not even between apples and oranges, it is more like comparing to ants to whales. While I know this may be personally disappointing to you, there is no realistic comparison.

  39. egg_

    Mars must be boiling with all that CO2.

    Earth CO2 = 0.04% ATM
    Mars CO2 = 0.96% ATM

  40. MatrixTransform

    Which of you geniuses is first to skull it?

    Guess what sort of retard reaches first for such an idiotic false equivalence

    You’re too stupid to be here mUnter

  41. Rex Anger

    Um, wow. Glass houses. Stones. Throwing. Shouldn’t do. Etc.

    So why are you here, Petey?

  42. Rex Anger

    I am still waiting for my education:

    From the Children of the Revolution thread yesterday-
    I recall Petey saying a few weeks back that a rightwing thinker cannot give an argument against abortion, given that it’s all about individual rights.

    So my question is- How does the right to temporary pleasure from a spot of licit (or illicit) rumpy-pumpy supersede and even outright deny the intrinsic right to life of the little human being one and one’s playmate have just gambled into existence?

    Given that the left is all about devaluing life (particularly the lives of others), how does Petey explain the respect of Right to life by his hated collectivist, leftist conservatives?

    Please, I need to understand just how much my thinking needs to change, and that won’t happen amongst all the left-wing thinkers on this right-wing blog…

  43. m0nty
    #3486778, posted on June 16, 2020 at 12:57 pm

    I have here a glass of water containing the same concentration of arsenic as there is concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere. Which of you geniuses is first to skull it?

    Don’t be a moron (or is it too late).
    arsenic is a foreign substance the body doesn’t and may not be able to live with. CO2 already exists in the atmosphere. The debate is weather an extra little bit more each year makes a catastrophic difference to temperatures 100 years hence.

    Were you not aware of this simple fact, or were you being purposefully dishonest?

  44. candy

    You have to wonder why the digital cyber generation did not look up “making a garden” on the Internet.

    Forethought, consequences, planning, hard work needed.
    Are they babies, just wilful and think they know everything? that should stop at around 16.

    I wonder though if some bad types will get into their commune and cause havoc. It could be dangerous.

  45. RobK

    Monty,
    CO2 facilitates the web of life. Arsenic derails it in many instances.

  46. Rex Anger

    @ Candy-

    I suspect it already has.

    Given their little militias rampaging about and enforcing a blackout on what media isn’t already demonstrating solidarity by ignoring the CHAZ, we will not hear a thing until the pice and Nat Guard have gone in and cleared out the place at bayonet point.

    The atrocity stories will then start to filter out in the form of criminal investigations and trials, but only through the small, centrist and conservative outlets. The MSM will likely jump multiple sharks in order to maintain the Narrative until the last possible moment.

  47. NoFixedAddress

    m0nty
    #3486778, posted on June 16, 2020 at 12:57 pm

    I have here a glass of water containing the same concentration of arsenic as there is concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere. Which of you geniuses is first to skull it?

    Anyone gaining enlightenment from consuming “magic” mushrooms would probably knock you out of the way in their excitement to ‘mainline’ it m0nty.

    Arsenic used to be the feed additive of choice for keeping a race horse in peak condition.

    But if you want real contaminated water get it from CCP controlled China who are ‘hell bent’ on polluting the world and have made the greatest contribution toward killing the planet ever known.

  48. Tim Neilson

    Rex Anger
    #3486825, posted on June 16, 2020 at 1:45 pm

    Yes, I too was exceedingly disappointed that my extremely close personal friend Iamashiteater didn’t respond with alacrity to my invitation to him to articulate how his observations of physical reality prove that illegal immigrants have the “right” to enter Australia.

  49. nb
    #3486795, posted on June 16, 2020 at 1:16 pm

    I agree with Monty. Percentages mean nothing.

    In the case of CAGW, percentages do matter.
    Even IF…if, if, if, a level of say, 800ppm CO2 in the atmosphere would be a dangerous thing as far as temperatures go, there is a big difference on a living planet in how you get to that number.
    If you add, say 2ppm each year, it doesn’t necessarily follow that we would reach 800ppm any time soon if ever because plants and oceans take up CO2.

    Dumping an extra 400ppm (doubling) all at once is obviously not the same as gradually adding 2ppm per annum. The much relied upon computer models can’t seem to get this right.
    Until they do, there is no point doing ANYTHING AT ALL about CO2 levels.
    The only proven fact, CO2 is loved by plants because it is from where they get their carbon (food).

    We bond Oxygen molecules to Carbon molecules by burning stuff, plants take that shit up and break it down, keeping the Carbon molecule and transpiring the Oxygen molecule back into the atmosphere. Hence “The Carbon Cycle.”

  50. arsenic is a foreign substance the body doesn’t and may not be able to live with.

    Arsenic is a naturally-occurring element which is present in all groundwater. You and I and everyone have trace amounts of it in our bodies. The amount of it present is the key. More than just a teeny tiny little amount is deadly. Science!

  51. egg_

    The absence of water makes the temperature on Mars change a lot. The Mars exploration rovers (Spirit at Gusev Crater and Opportunity at Meridiani Planun) experienced temperatures ranging from a few degrees Celsius above zero to minus 80℃ at night: every single Martian day, known as sol.

    Water is what’s known as a modulator – and is why deserts have such a wide range of daily temperature – the heat goes straight out to space of a night for freezing conditions, sans water.

  52. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    You have to wonder why the digital cyber generation did not look up “making a garden” on the Internet.

    they made gardens, farms, buildings… in minecraft

  53. JohnJJJ

    We have created such prosperity and immensely high per capita productivity that even morons survive
    Actually, if you don’t need facts, scientific, history and the like, then the smart thing is not to know them. So perhaps we are looking at a new species: homo soyboy

  54. RobK

    More than just a teeny tiny little amount is deadly. Science!
    This is not the case for CO2.
    QED

  55. duncanm

    m0nty
    #3486846, posted on June 16, 2020 at 2:09 pm
    arsenic is a foreign substance the body doesn’t and may not be able to live with.

    Arsenic is a naturally-occurring element which is present in all groundwater. You and I and everyone have trace amounts of it in our bodies. The amount of it present is the key. More than just a teeny tiny little amount is deadly. Science!

    another false equivalence.

    The CO2 argument goes like this.

    CO2 catastrophist: “my drinking water had 0.0035mg/L of arsenic fifty years ago, an increase to 0.004mg/L will kill everybody aieee!”

  56. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    they made gardens, farms, buildings… in minecraft

    toto! I don;t think we’re in roblox anymore!

  57. Alan

    BBC4 asks an Activist if Churchill’s Statue should be removed.
    Activist responds, ‘I Haven’t Personally Met Him’.

  58. Lee

    Um, wow. Glass houses. Stones. Throwing. Shouldn’t do. Etc.

    Says one of the resident lefties here, who claims he isn’t one, but is always defending others against conservatives and right wingers.

  59. egg_

    monster pay attention
    Brisbane man reaches 100kg weight loss goal during coronavirus lockdown

    Is M0nster on a sugar hit from the new Snickers Krispy Kremes?

  60. egg_

    “Every good regulator of a system must be a model of that system.”

    “Climate Scientists” are doing a good job of regulating “global” climate?
    Carbon Tax working out well?

  61. calli

    It’s déja vu all over again.

  62. calli

    And dressed in old lace.

    Nice mantilla!

  63. Mark A

    m0nty, come here more often.
    The rarer your appearance, the stupider your comments.😒😎

  64. “We have created such prosperity and immensely high per capita productivity that even morons survive”

    Bad times create tough men. Tough men create good times. Good times create weak men. Weak men create bad times. Bad times create tough men …. … … …

  65. Boambee John

    m0nty
    #3486778, posted on June 16, 2020 at 12:57 pm
    I have here a glass of water containing the same concentration of arsenic as there is concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere. Which of you geniuses is first to skull it?

    Haven’t scanned down, so it might already have been mentioned, but is m0nty the m0ron aware that drinking too much water, even without arsenic, can be fatal?

    I wonder what percentage of active ingredient there is in his heart medicine.

    m0nty the m0ron!

  66. Boambee John

    More than just a teeny tiny little amount is deadly. Science!

    m0nty the scientist gives us an exact measurement of the fatal dose of arsenic.

    M0ron!

  67. wozzup

    “We have created such prosperity and immensely high per capita productivity that even morons survive.”

    errrrrrr…………………YES!!!!! Who could doubt it.

    The proper treatment of such non productive members of society including progressives……………. as inferred by Douglas Adams ………………………………..though this video leaves out the punch line – that the Golgafincham Ark Ship B has in fact been programmed to crash into the sun.

  68. Boambee John

    From kae, LD50 for arsenic in rats 15mg per kg.

    How much water with 0.040% arsenic in it would m0nty the m0ron (120 kgs) have to drink th have a 50% chance of dying?

  69. egg:

    “Every good regulator of a system must be a model of that system.”

    How about the War on Drugs?

  70. Entropy

    15*120*0.04= 72 litres (assuming no pissing?)

  71. Professor Fred Lenin

    Steve imagine if these useless articles had to feed themselves? The socialist mind set shows why lefty states are always starving ,you cant eat dogma or lying propaganda . As a lifelong gardener who fed his family from his garden I feel pity for these idiots efforts ,they could probably quote marx verbatim but they couldnt grow acarrot to eat ,let the buggers starve ,its good cleansing for the soul .

  72. Bruce of Newcastle

    imagine if these useless articles had to feed themselves?

    Cannibalism is ruled out since they’re vegan.
    Although some might say these kiddies resemble vegetables.
    And fruits and nuts.

  73. Some History

    The Periodic Table according to Montyzuma


    Cobalt
    Copper
    Curium
    Darmstadtium
    Donuts
    Dubnium
    Dysprosium
    Einsteinium
    Erbium

  74. Entropy

    I think I would enjoy that periodic table.

  75. Boambee John

    ROFLMAO. The left is now eating its own.

    Demands are being made that the Grauniad be shut down. It is under attack for hypocrisy for supporting BLM, when it opposed Abraham Lincoln during the Civil War, and was founded with profits made from cotton grown on southern plantations using slave labour.

    Buy popcorn futures!

  76. Boambee John

    Entropy
    #3486916, posted on June 16, 2020 at 4:11 pm
    15*120*0.04= 72 litres (assuming no pissing?)

    Even without the arsenic, the water would kill m0nty!

  77. RobK

    Given LD50 for arsenic in rats 15mg per kg.
    One litre of 0.04% (400mg/kg) is good for approx 27kg rat body mass.
    120kg body mass would require 4.4 litres for LD50.
    The side effects at lower doses aren’t pleasant.

  78. Boambee John

    RobK

    The 4.4 litres, with no arsenic, could be fatal by itself.

  79. MatrixTransform

    m0nty the scientist gives us an exact measurement of the fatal dose of arsenic.

    I was in a greenhouse once and the CO2 was like 1800 ppm … just survived in time to write them an invoice

    that was close

  80. Roger

    Demands are being made that the Grauniad be shut down. It is under attack for hypocrisy for supporting BLM, when it opposed Abraham Lincoln during the Civil War, and was founded with profits made from cotton grown on southern plantations using slave labour.

    Seems fair.

    Historical sins must be atoned for.

    The proceeds from the sale could go to reparations.

  81. Nicholas (Unlicensed Joker) Gray

    Morons not only survive in our society, they seem to be thriving! Or are they just more visible, with more ways to get noticed these days?

  82. caveman

    Every farmer knows you have to plant the money tree first, how else you going to get like ,money.

  83. Dave in Marybrook

    Had Sunday lunch with a fam, the couple are teachers, she’s not in the classroom after kids- does tutoring- he’s deputy head of local Catholic primary.
    They’re ok, not my dear favourites- she’s quite wry ina country girl way. Does bookclub with my lovely wife- he plays guitar… doesn’t rip it up enough to jam. Loves Springsteen.
    Anyway, lunch wears on, I drift up and down and away from the table to do things with the kids- their three are good sorts, the middle boy was obviously at a loose end amongst the girls, I was the only one engaging him, and I’m not mr personality by a long way. Return to the table, and he’s got Mrs Marybrook cornered with an extensively boring expose of a friend of his who’s in the US- J#wish couple, teachers, North East, jet around to conferences, American Liberals thru and thru.
    He’s incredulous that the yank yid will vote Trump, and furthermore will tell him so and tell him why, and have an answer to Oz Pinko’s worries, which are green-left ABC colour-by-numbers stuff.
    So I quietly state that I quite like Trump. Unwidely, I had re-positioned myself whithin sub-tabular kicking distance from wifey. Unwisely like a good country chick she had taken her boots off at the door, so I persisted. I pointed out that Trump had been ahead of the game in just about every “bad call” that the left have tried to pin on him, from immigration and trade and manufacturing and health and Wuhan Flu. Came to a head during discussions of the l;ast fortnight.
    “Trump teargassed protesters!”
    Really? there’s no photos. Guess they got ’em pretty good eh?
    “He can’t face protesters on Pennsylvania Ave!”
    He doesn’t have to- the police do. It’s their curfew. A church got torched, so it’s hardly an overreaction.
    “It was a confected photo opportunity!”
    So he’s the first president to have his image managed?
    “He took his bible! What hypocrisy!”
    Yeah, did you see the smouldering church? Or did the ABC just show you a tight shot of the big man and the bible? That’s hypocrisy for you.
    “He’s got Fox and Murdoch in his pocket!”
    And on and on it went.
    Dave says, Look, do you really think that your Twitter feed and your Facebook friends give you a deeper insight, or a more balanced analysis of what’s going on, on the other side of the globe? Do you wonder how the legions of ABC, CNN, BBC, PBS, Alphabet and Twats Inc get it so very wrong every time, from WuFlu to Brexit to Boris to Abbott to Trump to Collusion to Strippergate to Obamagate, to Sco Mo and Bolsanaro and Modhi, to all these things like BLM and MeToo and Occupy and Anonymous and Voice to Parliament and C20 and Climate Change any other paper thin bogeyman who’s meant to scare us into throwing away due process and bending the knee before the technocracy?
    So, looks like no Marybrook kids will squeak into the Catholic school after all.

  84. Tony

    I mean it was just last week that Kates was peddling the conspiracy theory that the Buffalo protester who was knocked over was an Antifa agitator.

    This is really a good example of not throwing stones in glass houses.

    Honestly, it has been like five years of this BS on the Cat. Can it stop now?

  85. Bruce of Newcastle

    I have here a glass of water containing the same concentration of arsenic as there is concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere. Which of you geniuses is first to skull it?

    Hehe.

    Is it As(III) or As(V) m0nty? Then there’s the amount. A 200mL glass of water containing 400ppm of As would have 80 mg of arsenic in it.

    Even As(III) would barely muss your hair at that amount.

    Then there’s practice. If you were to let me spend a few months steadily building up my As(III) intake I think I could probably cope with a gram of it. That is historic experience. Some people would voluntarily eat 2 g per day for the health effects.

    So yes, gimme a glass of water with 400ppm contained arsenic. I’d prefer lead arsenate, just for the extra kick. Sparkling. I want the CO2 too.

    (I do so love lefties who don’t understand science and medicine.)

  86. Rex Anger

    Thanks Bruce. I consider myself suitably intrigued and educated.

    This is possibly the first time I’ve ever seen a troll produce an edifying and positive outcome.

    Congrats to M0nty, whose progressive CAGW shilling brought us here. You deserve a medal! 🙂

    @IamPeter- You seriously need to up your game, Petey. M0nty tries less hard than you, and has already demonstrated far better productivity.

  87. Tel

    Hey does everyone remember EVCricket and his solar powered off the grid lifestyle?

    Bit of a fruit loop but at least he had some instinctive understanding that prepping is important.

  88. Another Ian

    Bruce

    With arsenic being on the borderline of being declared an essential trace mineral us people from deficient areas are duty bound to get into the prawns when we go east to replenish supplies.

  89. Bruce of Newcastle

    Rex – Horsey people still inject arsenic into their horsies.

    + JUROCYL is a safe, pentavalent organic arsenic tonic of low toxicity providing rapid response.
    + JUROCYL promotes healthy skin and coat growth.
    + JUROCYL stimulates appetite in picky eaters.
    + JUROCYL is of value as a general tonic in anaemias, debility, stress, illness & recovery.

    Yum! As to humans one effect was to give the ladies a great skin complexion. So eating arsenic was a way to look prettier. I can see a market idea… 😀

    Hopefully m0nty will arrive and tell me why eating lead arsenate is safe, which, by and large, it is.

  90. JC

    You’re so gullible, Cronkite. It’s actually shocking to see just how gullible you are most times.

  91. JC

    Tony
    #3487022, posted on June 16, 2020 at 6:00 pm

    I mean it was just last week that Kates was peddling the conspiracy theory that the Buffalo protester who was knocked over was an Antifa agitator.

    That old prick, Cugino? He is an agigator and something pongs to high heaven about the old bastard.

    What’s that patch at the back of his head?

    If the prick was rushed, rushed to hospital due to hitting his head on the pavement, how come the old bastard had a lawyer in like 24 hours representing him? He was supposedly in ICU.
    Yea, the old fuck stinks to high heaven.

  92. Rex Anger

    @ JC

    Like Tony said, CoNsPiRaCy🤪

    It must be irritating to such clever and real people like Tony that such things can be and are routinely done. Even in places where corruption is supposedly low, and the rule of law is adhered to. At least in spirit, if not in letter… 🙄

  93. JC

    here:

    Hey Tony,

    Take a look at the vid. Explain to me what is at the back of that old fuck’s head. It’s like a blue patch. Until we find out what was at the back of his head, I’m calling this a frame-up job.

    https://www.straight.com/news/canadian-academic-christo-aivalis-sounds-off-on-buffalo-police-officer-pushing-elderly-man-to

    Enlarge the vid and explain to me what’s at the back of the fucker’s head.

    Go!

  94. Tel

    Yum! As to humans one effect was to give the ladies a great skin complexion. So eating arsenic was a way to look prettier. I can see a market idea… 😀

    I thought the idea was to rub Arsenic oxide powder directly on the skin, because it was white … where the general idea of the day was that “prettier” implied whiter. This would have been a fair while ago.

    https://www.halecosmeceuticals.com/evolution-of-skin-care/

    Skincare Of The Dark Ages And Renaissance

    The desire for light skin became a drive for pale skin in the Dark Ages and Renaissance period. The use of toxic powders containing lead, sometimes arsenic, were common among all but the poorest people who couldn’t afford them.

  95. Tel

    Fowler’s Solution was the all purpose Arsenic cureall of the 19th and early 30th Century.

    http://www.drugstoremuseum.org/other-drugs/fowlers-solution/fowlers-1907

    Interesting that they used it against Malaria and Cholera. You wonder how well it worked, must have done something because they kept using it.

  96. DeanG

    At 412 parts per million it is actually .041%. And the highly exagerated estimates theorise that all of the increase since pre industrial is man made, around 120 ppm. Or 0.012% acculmulated in the last 50 years, or around 0.00024% per year. And if we completely buy into the Paris agreement we are supposed to reduce emmisions by around 40%, or around 0.000004% per year. So they are actually telling us with no hint of irony or self awareness that we have to reduce atmospheric CO2 by 0.000004% per year or we will all perish, but if we do we will all be fine.

  97. NoFixedAddress

    Tony
    #3487022, posted on June 16, 2020 at 6:00 pm

    I mean it was just last week that Kates was peddling the conspiracy theory that the Buffalo protester who was knocked over was an Antifa agitator.

    This is really a good example of not throwing stones in glass houses.

    Honestly, it has been like five years of this BS on the Cat. Can it stop now?

    You tell ’em ‘luv’.

    You go right ahead an’ tell ’em right good an’ propa’ like.

  98. Howard Hill

    I have here a glass of water containing the same concentration of arsenic as there is concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere. Which of you geniuses is first to skull it?

    FMD!

    What you just wrote is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read.
    At no point in your rambling incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought.

    Everyone on this blog is now dumber for having read that.

    Unbelievable!

  99. Boambee John

    With arsenic being on the borderline of being declared an essential trace mineral us people from deficient areas are duty bound to get into the prawns when we go east to replenish supplies.

    Many years ago, I worked with a chemist who had spent some time in foodstuffs. One of his tasks was assaying gelatine for arsenic content. He commented that all gelatine/jelly had some arsenic in it, but not enough to cause harm unless your mother in law was feeding you a bit on the side.

    I wonder does m0nty like jelly donuts? And get on badly with his mother in law!

  100. NoFixedAddress

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #3487104, posted on June 16, 2020 at 7:01 pm

    Rex – Horsey people still inject arsenic into their horsies.

    Lol BoN

    There was even speculation that Phar Lap may have over consumed but it was far better to blame those despicable ‘Yanks’.

    But fairly certain that Tommy Woodcock put paid to the suggestion .

  101. DrBeauGan

    m0nty
    #3486778, posted on June 16, 2020 at 12:57 pm

    I have here a glass of water containing the same concentration of arsenic as there is concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere. Which of you geniuses is first to skull it?

    M0nty, you are such a fool. Thank you for confirming the march to idiocracy continues.

  102. Progressive leftards with nothing to eat hiding behind walls that don’t work ….. Just turn off the power and WiFi . Their bullshit show will be over in five minutes and with everyone in survival mode …… there’s going to be a long line of loser’s heading back to mom’s basement .

  103. Crossie

    Billionaire ‘Mini’ Mike Bloomberg is the father of the CHAZ farmers. Didn’t he say you put a seed in, you put dirt on top? Come to think of it, CHAZ farmers are better than ‘Mini’ Mike, they actually planted seedlings though if their walls remain those are the only plants they will ever have.

    Because farmers are not billionaires then obviously Bloomberg deduces that they are not as smart as him.

  104. Kneel

    “The amount of it present is the key.”

    Yes Monty – the dose is the poison. As others have noted, too much water is deadly (think MDMA users). As is too much oxygen.

    On CO2, it’s interesting that the lockdown that has affected the western world resulted in about (depending on your sources) 5 to 15% reduction in anthropogenic CO2 emissions, and this had virtually no effect on the partial pressure of CO2 in free air – it still rose, and at a rate indistinguishable from prior months. At 5% reduction, we need 20 times less to get to net zero. At 15%, slightly more than 6 times.
    So the goal is an economy smashed at least 6 times worse than our lockdown.
    Ummm… PASS! NO THANKS! Unless you have some sort of nuclear energy in mind (fission, fusion or LENR) go away and come back when you have something that doesn’t plunge 99% of the world into death by starvation, while shivering in the darkness.

  105. Tel

    I have here a glass of water containing 400 ppm donut crumbs floating on the water. Which of you geniuses is first to stand between Monty and that glass?

  106. Mother Lode

    There is a presence of progressives who are everywhere in society like a stink that hangs in a room into its tightest corners.

    Often from the middle class, raised in security and comfort, yearning to show they are better than the parents who must sometimes say no to what they want.

    But their parents know stuff, have clocked up experience, and have stature they do not. To outdo their parents on their terms is impossible, it would take too much time to surpass their skills and knowledge. It is no accident their ire is usually levelled at their father, still most likely to be the breadwinner.

    But, lucky for them, they can pick up an ‘instant’ knowledge. It is elaborate and contrived theory. It requires no real world knowledge and the gaining of it entails no exposure to the rigours of experience.

    And it is a knowledge their parents do not have.

    So they can pontificate endlessly, laying blame for all the worlds ills as they see it, lay out the solutions for others to implement – without any concrete knowledge.

    Normally they can get away with it because their ridiculous injunctions are not implemented so they are not tested and they can tell themselves they would work if only people were smart enough to listen.

    But occasionally the stumble into a situation where they try their hand at doing things – and comedy ensues.

  107. James of Tas

    It’s why they fear an industrial production economy. They’d have no place.

  108. Bruce

    Sodium: nasty, flammable metal, burns in contact with water; not to be taken internally or to come in contact with the skin.

    Chlorine: nasty, toxic, corrosive gas, plays Hell with ozone (which is itself toxic and corrosive).

    Bond Sodium and Chlorine together and you have an essential electrolyte. Too little you die, too much, ditto.

    See also: Potassium, another “interesting” metal. One of the key “balancing acts” going on in your body involved the Sodium / Potassium balance.

    Iron. There is no Haemoglobin without this stuff, No haemoglobin, no oxygen uptake; not much happening if that occurs. Too little is basically Anaemia; TOO MUCH iron will damage the liver, heart, etc.

    The human body is a mobile bag of chemical soup; get the balance out of kilter and things can get untidy.

    You can bugger up the works, not just by putting too much of the wrong stuff IN, but also by leaving the correct stuff OUT.

  109. I have here a glass of water containing the same concentration of arsenic as there is concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere. Which of you geniuses is first to skull it?

    Fuck me dead you are an irrevocably stupid munted fat fucking fool.

    Unbelievable.

  110. Thanks for that link Bruce, “toxicophagus” is an excellent word and particularly useful in describing you lot.

    Obviously I should market arsenical tonic as Lib-Owning Freedom Juice, I’d get plenty of buyers amongst you credulous rubes.

  111. NoFixedAddress

    m0nty
    #3487442, posted on June 17, 2020 at 12:25 am

    Thanks for that link Bruce, “toxicophagus” is an excellent word and particularly useful in describing you lot.

    Obviously I should market arsenical tonic as Lib-Owning Freedom Juice, I’d get plenty of buyers amongst you credulous rubes.

    nah.. donut dreamer

    sell co2 death in beer.

  112. David Brewer

    egg:

    Mars must be boiling with all that CO2.

    Earth CO2 = 0.04% ATM
    Mars CO2 = 0.96% ATM

    In fact, Mars CO2 = 95% ATM (though its atmosphere is much less dense than Earth’s).

  113. Zatara

    I mean it was just last week that Kates was peddling the conspiracy theory that the Buffalo protester who was knocked over was an Antifa agitator.

    Martin Gugino is a 75-year-old professional agitator and Antifa provocateur who brags on his blog about the number of times he can get arrested and escape prosecution. “Four arrests, no convictions”.

    Mr. Gugino’s Twitter Account (which he has suddenly switched to “private”) is also filled with anti-cop sentiment. Last Thursday Gugino traveled from his New York home in Amherst, to Buffalo where he was seen on camera agitating a protest crowd. One of the protesters earlier remarked that Mr. Gugino was “acting like an asshole”, and “trying to get punched in the face.”

    Not a conspiracy or a theory.

  114. Zatara

    I have here a glass of water containing the same concentration of arsenic as there is concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere. Which of you geniuses is first to skull it?

    I have a room containing 100% oxygen. Care to sit in it for a while?

  115. Rex Anger

    @ M0nty-

    After all the accidental good you caused yesterday, you just had to go and ruin it by trying to wedge a few insult points in, sideways. You stupid, stupid person.

    Leftwits gonna left. Not a thing anyone can do ’bout it.

  116. wozzup

    “I have here a glass of water containing the same concentration of arsenic as there is concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere. Which of you geniuses is first to skull it?”

    Hey genius. Are you aware that everything is toxic if you consume enough of it….even water? Ever heard of the toxicity table?

    New Rule: If you are going to try to use logic to win an argument it is better to get your facts straight first.

  117. Iampeter

    Says one of the resident lefties here, who claims he isn’t one, but is always defending others against conservatives and right wingers.

    Only at the Cat do the few actual individualists and capitalists get called “resident leftie.”
    Thank you for proving the point of my post so thoroughly.
    A perfect example of “no embarrassment being completely wrong on any particular issue regarding the facts.”

  118. Let’s not confuse montell with ideas like UEL, LEL, LD50 or dose-response mechanism.

    *Drink the CO2, bigots!*

    This idiot will believe anything that has a rubber stamp on it.

    A real outer party rube.

  119. Rex Anger

    Only at the Cat do the few actual individualists and capitalists get called “resident leftie.”
    Thank you for proving the point of my post so thoroughly.
    A perfect example of “no embarrassment being completely wrong on any particular issue regarding the facts.”

    “No, U! Says the wild Petey, who somehow without fail manages to present Marxist talking points as being ‘right-wing,’ while trying to hide behind some ‘libertarian’ interpretation of “Buzniss is buzniss an’ sankrasankt and that is that!”

    Still waiting for IamDafydd, the only resident individualist capitalist in the villay-juh to answer my question and teach me what is proper right-wing thought on abortion, given I can’t apparently argue against it cos it’s all about individual rights:

    How does the right to temporary pleasure from a spot of licit (or illicit) rumpy-pumpy supersede and even outright deny the intrinsic right to life of the little human being one and one’s playmate have just gambled into existence?

    Given that the left is all about devaluing life (particularly the lives of others), how does Petey explain the respect of Right to life by his hated collectivist, leftist conservatives?

    Please Petey. For your favourite nut job? ☹

  120. Lee

    Only at the Cat do the few actual individualists and capitalists get called “resident leftie.”
    Thank you for proving the point of my post so thoroughly.
    A perfect example of “no embarrassment being completely wrong on any particular issue regarding the facts.”

    As others have said before, you’re self be-clowning again.

  121. Lee

    Zatara

    #3487472, posted on June 17, 2020 at 3:55 am
    I mean it was just last week that Kates was peddling the conspiracy theory that the Buffalo protester who was knocked over was an Antifa agitator.

    Martin Gugino is a 75-year-old professional agitator and Antifa provocateur who brags on his blog about the number of times he can get arrested and escape prosecution. “Four arrests, no convictions”.

    Mr. Gugino’s Twitter Account (which he has suddenly switched to “private”) is also filled with anti-cop sentiment. Last Thursday Gugino traveled from his New York home in Amherst, to Buffalo where he was seen on camera agitating a protest crowd. One of the protesters earlier remarked that Mr. Gugino was “acting like an asshole”, and “trying to get punched in the face.”

    Not a conspiracy or a theory.

    Zatara, I noticed that Tony didn’t give any link or rebuttal to Kates’s story, but I have seen from at least one other source confirmation of what you have posted about Martin Gugino, including that he was apparently using some electronic device to illegally interfere with police communications at the protest. And the police knew what he was up to.
    Tony is talking bullshit.

  122. Iampeter

    As others have said before, you’re self be-clowning again.

    None of you even know where you are, or what you’re saying, or what’s going on.

  123. Lee

    Projecting again, Petey.

  124. Rex Anger

    None of you even know where you are, or what you’re saying, or what’s going on

    Stick to the drive-by honkings, Petey. On the last 4 threads you chose to stand and fight on in the last 7 days, you got jumped on by every contributor and smacked about. Badly. On the very subjects of politics, phosophy and business vs. government you claim to have the greatesg and most pure thought on.

    So badly were you jumped on, that you seemed to need to take a couple of days off to sulk and regroup.

    A smarter parsnip than yourself would revise his tactics and troll from a distance. More like M0nty.

    In consideration that good-ish trolls like you are a rare and precious resource to be carefully husbanded, please, please, please don’t stay and fight. Lob a grenade or three, go quiet and snicker to yourself at the rage you’ve induced among your hated irrational, deist conservativists. Rinse and repeat.

    You’ll only burn out again, and if you do a Golden Flounce out of frustration, there are practically no right-wing blogs left on the Internet to be pure in.

  125. Tony

    Zatara, I noticed that Tony didn’t give any link or rebuttal to Kates’s story, but I have seen from at least one other source confirmation of what you have posted about Martin Gugino, including that he was apparently using some electronic device to illegally interfere with police communications at the protest. And the police knew what he was up to.
    Tony is talking bullshit.

    I didn’t post a link or rebuttal because it is widely accepted the Gugino = Antifa is almost certainly fake news. The story was first published by a Sputnik linked reporter. I haven’t seen any reputable news sources confirming he was Antifa or any evidence of anarchist social media activity etc. Fox News and several other outlets have recently reported Gugino has a fractured skull and was in intensive care.

    As for disrupting Police Communications, they aren’t encrypted or anything. I am fairly sure you can listen to emergency services radio in the US and Australian on the internet and any number of apps. As to interfering with police comms, how does an individual realistically do that by walking up to a couple of police? I’m no expert but if you want to jam radios you probably need to litter the area with metal or pump lots of ‘noise’ on those wavelengths using a jammer. None of those require Gugino to approach the police, they could have figured out all the police frequencies beforehand very easily and then hide a jammers in vehicles or buildings.

    Really there is no substantial evidence provided by anyone here that Gugino was a bad faith actor. There is plenty of evidence he wasn’t a bad faith actor. It makes no sense that he was interfering with police comms and if he was it was a really stupid, impractical way to do it.

  126. Iampeter

    Projecting again, Petey.

    I don’t think you know what “projecting” means which is why you don’t realize when you’re doing it.
    Accurately describing you dingbats is not “projecting.”

    I didn’t post a link or rebuttal because it is widely accepted the Gugino = Antifa is almost certainly fake news.

    Not to the q-tards like Lee here. Sadly.
    They only ever read the fevered ramblings of Trump supporters.

  127. Lee

    Says the escapee from the funny farm.

    I know exactly what “projecting” means, and it describes leftist hypocrites like you to a “T”, calling others what they are themselves.

  128. Rex Anger

    I don’t think you know what “projecting” means which is why you don’t realize when you’re doing it.
    Accurately describing you dingbats is not “projecting.”

    Do you “No, U! here often, Petey?

  129. Rex Anger

    Since you have settled here to fight for the time being Petey, can I please have my education now?

    If I cannot make any argument about abortion as a right-wing thinker because it is all about individual rights,

    How does the right to temporary pleasure from a spot of licit (or illicit) rumpy-pumpy supersede and even outright deny the intrinsic right to life of the little human being one and one’s playmate have just gambled into existence?

    Given that the left is all about devaluing life (particularly the lives of others), how does Petey explain the respect of Right to life by his hated collectivist, leftist conservatives?

  130. cohenite

    We have created such prosperity and immensely high per capita productivity that even morons survive.

    Correct. Kill them all and let God sort them out.

  131. cohenite

    Just scrolled up and saw the fat troll dredged out the arsenic analogy for CO2. The history of this shit by the alarmists is that it was first thought (sic) up about 12 years ago and got mileage at john cook’s shit site (mmm, just had an idea) sceptical science. Anyway it’s bullshit and is rebutted at 75 here at the Australian Climate Sceptics Blog.

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