Open Forum: June 20, 2020

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  1. notafan

    Stay at home measures flagged.

    Dan not being racist is he?

  2. Crossie

    Wait a minute. On Chris Smith’s program Josie Cashman says that nobody has a computer in the outback. I bet they all have an iPhone or an android phone.

  3. notafan

    All I can say is

    Good luck with that

  4. NoFixedAddress

    notafan
    #3492361, posted on June 21, 2020 at 10:38 pm

    Sorry nfa

    I’m not playing the game.

    As far as I’m concerned it’s Mr McGregor.

    And I laughed and laughed and laughed.

    sorry notafan but you are the one playing the game but that’s your choice.

    but I don’t have to buy his nor your delusions.

  5. NoFixedAddress

    Crossie
    #3492373, posted on June 21, 2020 at 10:54 pm

    Wait a minute. On Chris Smith’s program Josie Cashman says that nobody has a computer in the outback. I bet they all have an iPhone or an android phone.

    they would be the phones that the gubmint gave out would they?

  6. Crossie

    In other words, today a phone is a computer,

  7. Bar Beach Swimmer

    This arvo, I watched The Scarlett and the Black A film about Monsignor Hugh O’Flaherty who was an Irish priest based at the Vatican during WWII and how he saved the lives of thousands of allied pows and jooos by hiding them in safe houses throughout Rome.

    Gregory Peck played the part of Monsignor while Sir John Gielgud was Pope Pius XII and Christopher Plummer was the SS Officer Herbert Kappler.

    The Monsignor’s strength and determination to stand up and help all those who came to him, even risking his own life on many occasions, is a wonderful story and worth the telling. A very courageous and inspiring man and priest. The film is on SBS Catch-up; it’s well worth a look.

  8. Crossie

    they would be the phones that the gubmint gave out would they?

    How does that matter in this case? The important thing is they have them.

  9. Oh dear. It is pure fantasy that a decision like Lawrence, which conjured from the emanations of penumbra a constitutional right to homosexual conduct, would not end in a decision like Obergefell in which a constitutional right is again conjured, extending homosexual conduct to the realm of matrimony. No, really, it was all a great surprise.

    I agree that the “penumbra of rights” is wishy washy and a mistake.

    Lawrence need not be conjured from that at all.

    If there is no *right* to homosexual conduct, there is no *right* to heterosexual conduct. Either you have freedom of association and a right to privacy or you do not. Outside of that, marriage laws and the like ought to be in the hands of the states. Which worked fine as long as it did.

    You are conflating bad jurisprudence with liberalism. You are totally wrong.

  10. Tel

    It is hardly reasonable to expect women to play midweek netball to get physically injured by men because of some bizarre contortion of fair.

    Possibly we should wait for the midweek netball injuries to skyrocket … then panic afterwards.

    That’s the accepted sequence of operations. They have a ref I believe, who can send someone off for a foul if it is deemed deliberate.

  11. NoFixedAddress

    Crossie
    #3492380, posted on June 21, 2020 at 11:08 pm

    they would be the phones that the gubmint gave out would they?

    How does that matter in this case? The important thing is they have them.

    so crossie

    just gently point to the place where the mobile phone carrier touches the apple and google computer phones in “the outback”.

    https://www.nperf.com/en/map/AU/-/355.Vodafone/signal/?ll=-35.07213865677091&lg=136.01&zoom=3

    https://www.nperf.com/en/map/AU/-/2445.Telstra/signal/?ll=-35.07213865677091&lg=136.01&zoom=3

    https://www.nperf.com/en/map/AU/-/2326.Optus/signal/?ll=-35.07213865677091&lg=136.01&zoom=3

    or do you mean Yarra Junction?

  12. max

    Particular municipalities in Melbourne have been identified as problem areas.

    So Andrews acts like it’s the whole state.

    We’re all in it.

  13. egg_

    just gently point to the place where the mobile phone carrier touches the apple and google computer phones in “the outback”.

    Satellite internet modem with a wifi hub.

  14. mh

    AOC joins hundreds of Twitter users claiming teens on TikTok and K-pop fans sabotaged Trump’s Tulsa rally and left seats empty by reserving thousands of tickets with no intention of showing up

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8443751/American-teens-sabotaged-Trumps-Tulsa-rally-reserving-tickets-hundreds.html

  15. dover_beach

    I agree that the “penumbra of rights” is wishy washy and a mistake.

    Lawrence need not be conjured from that at all.

    But it was.

    If there is no *right* to homosexual conduct, there is no *right* to heterosexual conduct. Either you have freedom of association and a right to privacy or you do not. Outside of that, marriage laws and the like ought to be in the hands of the states. Which worked fine as long as it did.

    You are unwittingly proving my point re liberalism. That mode of reasoning would justify bestiality and it implies that it is on a par with the marital act.

    You are conflating bad jurisprudence with liberalism.

    They are usually found together.

  16. dover_beach

    I agree that the “penumbra of rights” is wishy washy and a mistake.

    Lawrence need not be conjured from that at all.

    But it was.

    If there is no *right* to homosexual conduct, there is no *right* to heterosexual conduct. Either you have freedom of association and a right to privacy or you do not. Outside of that, marriage laws and the like ought to be in the hands of the states. Which worked fine as long as it did.

    You are unwittingly proving my point re liberalism. That mode of reasoning would justify a ‘right’ to laying down with animals and implies that it is on a par with the marital act.

    You are conflating bad jurisprudence with liberalism.

    They are usually found together.

  17. Mark A

    Whenever I fill out an application form, in the part that says “in an emergency, notify:” I put “DOCTOR”. What’s my mother going to do?

  18. DB your argument is no better than sticking your tongue out and scowling. It is just trash. The actual snippets about law are not based on fact at all.

  19. Hay Stockard

    Cold-Hands,
    You would have to have a heart of stone not to laugh at that.

  20. Mark A

    Cold-Hands
    #3492392, posted on June 21, 2020 at 11:55 pm

    da ironing!😎😊

  21. NoFixedAddress

    egg_
    #3492388, posted on June 21, 2020 at 11:44 pm

    just gently point to the place where the mobile phone carrier touches the apple and google computer phones in “the outback”.

    Satellite internet modem with a wifi hub.

    give Sinclair a call from your iphone when you get to the Birdsville Pub.

    they have internet.

  22. NoFixedAddress

    Another sunny night in Minneapolis

    Ten People Shot in Minneapolis, Reports of ‘100 People Fighting With Various Weapons’

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/06/breaking-least-eight-ten-people-shot-minneapolis-reports-100-people-fighting-various-weapons/

  23. NoFixedAddress

    Pepsico erases Black Americans.

    “This is an injustice for me and my family. This is part of my history, sir,” Evans explained. “The racism they talk about, using images from slavery, that comes from the other side — white people. This company profits off images of our slavery. And their answer is to erase my great-grandmother’s history. A black female. … It hurts.”

    “She worked for that Quaker Oats for 20 years. She traveled all the way around the United States and Canada making pancakes as Aunt Jemima for them,” he said. “This woman served all those people, and it was after slavery. She worked as Aunt Jemima. That was her job. … How do you think I feel as a black man sitting here telling you about my family history they’re trying to erase?”
    ….
    The family tried suing for royalties but the judge kicked the lawsuit out, saying Evans and his family weren’t executors of Harrington’s estate so they had [no] legal standing to sue on her behalf.

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2020/06/20/aunt-jemimas-greatgrandson-slams-quaker-oats-decision-to-give-into-cancel-culture-n2570990

    drink a pepsi and you support slavery

  24. Tom

    Andy Davey (London Sunday Telegraph) on the northern hemisphere summer solstice.

  25. Nob

    Sixpence?

    Posh bastards.

    We only got thruppences.

  26. Nob

    In reply to a post that was there the first time I looked.

  27. bespoke

    Crossie
    #3492344, posted on June 21, 2020 at 10:21 pm
    notafan
    #3492339, posted on June 21, 2020 at 10:15 pm
    McGregor calls herself transgender, not a cross dressing transsexual.

    Only a couple of weeks ago on Sky she said that she is a transsexual not a transgender. So who is right?

    Years ago an associate transitioned, his wife was supportive and loved his little girl. The decision process was long and agonizing or him. So I’m willing to separate the two terms as transsexual as rare anomaly and transgenderism as being part of political and social movement.

  28. notafan

    Tel

    That’s not how netball works. You have to complain, mostly.

    My girl gave up mixed netball because of aggressive male players.

    Zero interest in playing with masqueraders.

    Different physiology is the issue, won’t go away.

  29. notafan

    Bespoke?

    Transsexual don’t transition, they are mere male crossdressers because they fancy themselves in a frock.

    Transgenders think they are real women, more female than those born that way, and they too fancy themselves in a frock but all the surgeries in the world don’t make them anything more than eunuchs, as for the ones who insist they are actual women but don’t feel the need for physical changes…

    I think they should have their mental illness, gender dysphoria, treated and not force women to accommodate their sickness.

    No doubt Helen Dake is a ‘ TERF.

    #metoo

  30. notafan

    NFA

    What delusion of mine?

    Are you saying you think Mr McGregor is a real woman?

    If so you are the delusional one.

  31. notafan

    And Dover Beach is correct.

    Once you start formulating legal ‘right’s’ about sexual preferences every perverse consequence is owned.

  32. rickw

    Daily dose of Vietnam!

  33. 132andBush

    Broelman surpasses both Rowe and Numbers (combined) for TDS.

  34. Knuckle Dragger

    Some ‘yes they do’ ‘no they don’t’ discussion late yesterday about internet and phone service in The Outback (with capital letters). There are teensy little footprints around SOME of the NT settlements, where you get a scratchy two or three out of five bars which disappear once you’re 15 km out of the place.

    All of them Telstra. If you’re unprepared enough to try and operate anything else, particularly Optus and Vodafone, be prepared to regard your device as a handy paperweight in the desert wind.

    If you have certain apps you can use them device to device within their range, which accounts for various box ons between tribal groups whose teenagers use it to slag off at each other’s mothers etc, which in turn results in Mafia-style ‘disrespect’ barneys.

  35. calli

    Branco gets it. Twice.

    The rest are pretty weak and as for Broelman – maybe he needs a history lesson.

  36. 132andBush

    Hands up who believes those people really voted for Trump.
    Our first laugh for the day.

  37. 132andBush

    ^Hands up those who believe…

    More coffee needed.

  38. Knuckle Dragger

    AFP people of various stripe visit Darwin for various reasons, and phone/net coverage – once they’ve recovered from being outside Canberra, and are confident enough to go outside in Darwin which they seem to regard as Tombstone or Deadwood – is one of the things they ask about.

    If you’re feeling kindly, you’ll tell them. Occasionally you’ll get a condescending flog strutting about with a name tag the size of an A4 sheet of paper doing the ‘I say, my good man’ thing – in which case you say something like ‘3 Mobile? Yeah, no problems mate. You’re sweet. Anywhere you like mate.’

    I’ve done that a few times, and have twice been lucky enough to see them on the return cycle. “Geez mate, that’s never happened before.’ Snork.

  39. Knuckle Dragger

    While I think of it, there’s a valid comparison to be made between the AFP in the cops, and the RAAF in the services.

    The Feds are generally laughed at by everybody else, and deservedly so because they’re pompous flogs who overestimate both their importance and their ability.

    They do, however, have two great big pluses. Their conditions of service, and ze weeeemen. With only a few exceptions, very tasty indeed – particularly compared to their bastard State/Territory cousins.

  40. Knuckle Dragger

    Now that Somyurek’s gonski, let’s appoint someone who won’t upset the applecart.

    Right? Right guys?

    ‘A newly appointed Andrews Government minister is under fire over insensitive comments praising the ruthless Red Army of Soviet communist dictator Joseph Stalin.

    ‘Victorian communities who suffered under communism are outraged that Local Government Minister Danny Pearson suggested that Red Army generals be memorialised among migrants who suffered persecution abroad.

    ‘Mr Pearson, who was elevated to the ministry last week after the sacking of disgraced minister Adem Somyurek, made the comments in state parliament in 2015 while debating a veterans’ bill. Referring to a proposed persecution memorial in Melbourne by then Opposition Leader Matthew Guy, Mr Pearson said he was surprised that Mr Guy “did not talk about the great contribution the Red Army made in supporting Western liberal democracy by … destroying fascism”.

    ‘“We are all the beneficiaries of the great contribution the Red Army made (such as) Marshal Georgy Zhukov, who won the Order of Lenin … it is important that the contribution of the Red Army be acknowledged,” he said.’

    Mr Pearson’s clearly unaware of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, and that the Red Army’s record of killing its own is unrivalled. During Stalingrad alone*, the Russians shot 13,000 of their own troops. That’s more than an entire division.

    *Yes I have mentioned this before, but it’s staggering.

  41. calli

    Cate McGregor is a castrated man with surgical and chemical alterations to make him look and feel (as much as he is capable of feeling) like a female.

    This. Is. The. Truth.

    Unless there is some way to alter his skeleton, his musculature and every single cell in his body now and into the future, he is a man. If it helps his mental state to call him “female”, go for it. Just don’t expect me to agree to the lie.

  42. Knuckle Dragger

    It would not surprise me one bit to find Mr Pearson had proposed spending oodles of taxpayer cash for a statue of Beria in Fed Square.

  43. Knuckle Dragger

    Voluntarily castrated man, calli.

  44. stackja

    Climbers face massive fines in Victorian cultural heritage ban
    The State Government is threatening to slap huge fines on those who disturb the cultural heritage of a popular rock climbing site in Victoria’s west, and those who disobey could be forced to pay up to $300,000.

    John Ferguson, The Australian
    Subscriber only
    |
    June 20, 2020 12:00am

    The Victorian government is threatening fines of up to $300,000 for people who disturb a cultural heritage site at one of Australian rock climbing’s nurseries.

    The interim protection order at a site at Mt Arapiles is the first of its kind, and includes massive financial penalties for those who ignore it.

    The order relates to an area at Taylors Rock or Declaration Crag, Crag, just south of Mt Arapiles in Victoria’s west, where more than 50 Aboriginal rock art motifs are located, though they cannot be seen with the naked eye.

    A lot of the rock art is so old it cannot be seen without special equipment. This has frustrated climbers who have been blamed for damaging things that can’t be seen.

  45. Snoopy

    Mt Arapiles in Victoria’s west, where more than 50 Aboriginal rock art motifs are located, though they cannot be seen with the naked eye.

    So how were the artworks discovered?

    Mmm, thats a rock. I’ll point my taxpayer funded Acme special art locating equipment at it and see what’s there.

  46. Farmer Gez

    A hero for Danny Pearson, Knuckles.

    Vasily Mikhailovich Blokhin (Russian: Васи́лий Миха́йлович Блохи́н; 7 January 1895 – 3 February 1955) was a Soviet Russian Major-General who served as the chief executioner of the Stalinist NKVD

    Personally supervised and participated in the murder of 22,000 Polish officers at Katyn.

  47. custard

    The FMIC this morning is peak TDS continuing the fake news that no one turned up to his Tulsa rally. It begs the bigger question though, who was the cuck who decided this would be the false narrative of the weekend? The entire complex was in lockstep in terms of the mendacious lies.

    TheirABC is carrying on about it as I write this post….

  48. calli

    though they cannot be seen with the naked eye.

    Typo. They left the ‘f’ off ‘art’.

  49. notafan
    #3492438, posted on June 22, 2020 at 5:44 am
    And Dover Beach is correct.

    Once you start formulating legal ‘right’s’ about sexual preferences every perverse consequence is owned.

    I am not doing that though.

    I am saying the state has no right to legislate with respect to certain matters (because of freedom of association, equal protection and the right to privacy). I am also saying that in the US, the correct Federalist (and classically liberal) approach is to leave things not enumerated to the Congress, to the states (like marriage).

    If you cannot arrive at ideas like child protection or not allowing further perversions without a religious basis, it doesn’t mean liberalism is wrong, it means you haven’t thought about it hard enough.

    If Republicans were upset about gay couples in blue states getting Feferal welfare, they ought to have made DOMA a constitutional amendment.

  50. I am with calli here.

    Do whatever you like but why do I have to enable your crazy? It’s your body and your choice but I think it’s insane and I won’t play along.

    So glad I am not a public serpent.

  51. Mater

    Mr Pearson’s clearly unaware of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, and that the Red Army’s record of killing its own is unrivalled. During Stalingrad alone*, the Russians shot 13,000 of their own troops. That’s more than an entire division.

    And marching all of their own ‘liberated’ POWs straight back into the Gulags, because they were tainted.

    They never imprisoned people and executed them for having done something. They imprisoned and executed them to keep them from doing something. They imprisoned all those POW’s, of course, not for treason to the Motherland, because it was absolutely clear even to a fool that only the VIasov men could be accused of treason. They imprisoned all of them to keep them from telling their fellow villagers about Europe. What the eye doesn’t see, the heart doesn’t grieve for.

    The Gulag Archipelago, Vol 1, p 243

  52. Cassie of Sydney

    “‘“We are all the beneficiaries of the great contribution the Red Army made (such as) Marshal Georgy Zhukov, who won the Order of Lenin … it is important that the contribution of the Red Army be acknowledged,” he said.’”

    Wow…unf*cking believable….so nice to her that a Victorian (where else), ALP, Marxist hack and all round intellectual cretin wants to acknowledge the contribution of the Soviet Red Army….an army that engaged in and prided itself on the systematic wape of women across eastern Europe and Germany….no one was spared……nuns, ten year old girls, ninety year old women….and the systematic waping had the approval of Russian senior military commanders and politburo.

    So this is what we’ve come to…Marxists pulling down statues of Cook and Churchill and putting up statues to wapists. Geez…you couldn’t make this up. Nice to know that the Victorian ALP wants to honour sexual violence in war and wape.

  53. Bruce of Newcastle

    Buyer’s remorse.

    Numbers – LOL. I have a small bet with myself that Nancy may not in fact be a lifelong Republican.

    Remember this?

    Republican Women For Obama? [UPDATED: Another Fake “Republican” Exposed] (Aug 2012)

    It happens all the time in talk radio: a caller will say that he is a lifelong Republican, and will recall fondly how he voted for Ronald Reagan. Then he says that today’s Republicans have gone too far, and for the first time ever he is voting for a Democrat! These callers are nearly always lying. If you look them up, you likely will find that they are Democratic Party precinct chairmen.

    The Obama campaign is trying to perpetrate the same deception. It has just released a video called Republican Women For Obama, which features four or five women who claim to be Republicans, or to have been Republicans until recently. … Her name is Maria Ciano, and BuzzFeed finds that she has been a registered Democrat in Colorado at least since 2006. Here she is in the Obama ad. She is easy to spot in the ad because she wears braces.

    So we now have “Republican Voters Against Trump”…I wonder if they’re anything like “Republican Women For Obama”?

  54. Farmer Gez

    A lot of the rock art is so old it cannot be seen without special equipment. This has frustrated climbers who have been blamed for damaging things that can’t be seen.

    Much like subconscious racism.

  55. lotocoti

    Remember this?

    Or our own one true conservative, SfB.

  56. Mater

    Mr Pearson’s clearly unaware of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, and that the Red Army’s record of killing its own is unrivalled. During Stalingrad alone*, the Russians shot 13,000 of their own troops. That’s more than an entire division.

    Mind you, Labor has form.

    For three years running (1943-1945), Prime Minister Curtin ORDERED that the Red Army Flag be flown above all Australian Commonwealth Buildings on 23 Feb, to celebrate “Red Army Day” – the anniversary of the founding of the Red Army.

    He asked State Governments to issue a similar directive and strongly urged private businesses “to adopt a similar course”.

  57. Cassie of Sydney

    “calli
    #3492461, posted on June 22, 2020 at 7:03 am
    Cate McGregor is a castrated man with surgical and chemical alterations to make him look and feel (as much as he is capable of feeling) like a female.

    This. Is. The. Truth.

    Unless there is some way to alter his skeleton, his musculature and every single cell in his body now and into the future, he is a man. If it helps his mental state to call him “female”, go for it. Just don’t expect me to agree to the lie.”

    Thanks Calli…you have nailed it (as usual) and most women would agree. In fact J K Rowling has been saying this for months on twitter. Germaine Greer also said similar in an interview three years ago on the BBC….and for that truth and plain speaking, Greer is now banned from universities and is generally persona non grata.

    And you and me and most other women who speak this truth are now routinely smeared as “menstruators” and “TERFS”….women who query or question the trans lobby are now routinely threatened on twitter and Facebook (funny how they never get banned for life)…in fact even saying on twitter that “men can’t be women” will get you permanently banned from twitter….as what happened to Canadian feminist Meghan Murphy.

  58. Cassie of Sydney

    “Numbers – LOL. I have a small bet with myself that Nancy may not in fact be a lifelong Republican.”

    The Toowoomba degenerate should be hiding himself away in shame after his cretinous comments yesterday…..according to the Toowoomba degenerate…..compared to evil white European colonialists….the Nazis were rank amateurs in genocide.

  59. Boambee John

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #3492477, posted on June 22, 2020 at 7:51 am
    Buyer’s remorse.

    Numbers – LOL. I have a small bet with myself that Nancy may not in fact be a lifelong Republican.

    Bruce

    Do you have any bridges for sale? I suspect that the bin chicken could be interested. He is looking for something to claim against his $15,000,000 in taxes.

  60. Strong woman being beaten by Caitlin, Randy or Hannah was always going to be the end of mass support for transgendered stuff.

    Yeah I won! I am the best!

  61. Boambee John

    Cassie

    The Toowoomba degenerate should be hiding himself away in shame after his cretinous comments yesterday…..according to the Toowoomba degenerate…..compared to evil white European colonialists….the Nazis were rank amateurs in genocide.

    Still, he did make a small concession. He also rated the communists alongside the Nazis among the rank amateurs. As KD has mentioned above, the communists were actually pretty effective at mass slaughter, and that was of their own people!

  62. stackja

    Stalin killed millions. Mao killed how many?

  63. If there was a genocide in Australia it wasn’t systematic.

    After Myall Creek, seven settlers were hanged for murder.

    The progressive classical education the plenary council gave was more than inadequate.

  64. Roger

    So we now have “Republican Voters Against Trump”…I wonder if they’re anything like “Republican Women For Obama”?

    Neo-con and sworn Trump opponent Bill Kristol is behind this group.

  65. Mater

    The Toowoomba degenerate should be hiding himself away in shame after his cretinous comments yesterday

    If he had any shame, he’d disappear for a while and come back under a new nom de plume.
    However, that would mean losing his sword and his shield and his ultimate wild card – his ex-service credentials.
    Bob’s nothing more than a Service Record wrapped in an MX5.

  66. notafan

    A man who thinks he knows what it feels like/is to be a woman.

    Remember the ‘Christmas shopping ‘ comment made when he first made his bwave public media appearances.

    Shallow stupid fool.

    I love the feel of clean stockings in the morning.

  67. Farmer Gez

    The Toowoomba degenerate should be hiding himself away in shame after his cretinous comments yesterday…..according to the Toowoomba degenerate…..compared to evil white European colonialists….the Nazis were rank amateurs in genocide.

    It was a truly amazing post Cassie, even for Commie Bob.
    Events, medical knowledge, vaccine discoveries, all separated by centuries, were compressed to achieve a racist genocide meme.

    A stellar performance of immense stupidity.
    Well done that man.

  68. thefrollickingmole

    TheirABC is carrying on about it as I write this post

    The newest hot take is “those kids on tic toc who scammed invites” and how clever it was.

    So they are trying to have it both ways now.
    Narrative 1: Trumps lost his supporters
    Narrative 2: Prebooked tickets got scammed keeping people away.

    Its almost impressive to see both narratives parroted within an hour of each other, real doublethink in action.

  69. Crossie

    Cate McGregor is a castrated man with surgical and chemical alterations to make him look and feel (as much as he is capable of feeling) like a female.

    This. Is. The. Truth.

    Unless there is some way to alter his skeleton, his musculature and every single cell in his body now and into the future, he is a man. If it helps his mental state to call him “female”, go for it. Just don’t expect me to agree to the lie.

    I don’t consider Cate a woman but a transsexual and if “she” wants that pronoun, fine though having her compete with women in a physical arena is not fine.

  70. lotocoti

    And you and me and most other women who speak this truth …

    I’ve noticed the Lady LARPers have created a new sub-category, the TEF.
    It seems they’ve decided their mortal enemies are not just the batshit crazy RadFems.

  71. Crossie

    Farmer Gez
    #3492478, posted on June 22, 2020 at 7:58 am
    A lot of the rock art is so old it cannot be seen without special equipment. This has frustrated climbers who have been blamed for damaging things that can’t be seen.

    Much like subconscious racism.

    Like the rock paintings in exposed areas that have survived weathering when the surrounding rocks have not.

  72. stackja

    88-year-old woman shoots man suspected of stealing booze from her store, TN cops say
    BY TANASIA KENNEY
    JUNE 19, 2020 12:37 PM , UPDATED JUNE 19, 2020 01:05 PM

    Metro Nashville PD
    @MNPDNashville
    May Boyce is free on $10,000 bond on a charge of aggravated assault for shooting a man Tuesday night who she thought was a thief in her Murfreesboro Pike liquor store. The victim is recovering.

    May Boyce, 88, is charged with aggravated assault after authorities say shot a man she suspected of trying to steal from her liquor store. IMAGE COURTESY OF METRO NASHVILLE POLICE DEPARTMENT

  73. notafan

    No more trans

    Its a eunuch of the voluntary kind.

    The worst ones are the ones who do it after they’ve had children.

    Numbers hasn’t weighed in on this discussion, why is that.

  74. Bruce of Newcastle

    Via Powerline:

    ‘Dirty Tricks’ Sabotage Trump Tulsa Rally (21 Jun)

    Twitter is alight this morning with reports that dozens of teens reserved thousands of rally tickets to sabotage the optics of Trump’s speech.

    The Trump team claims there was other sabotage, including the blocking of access to metal detectors to enter the arena and threatening by anti-Trump radicals. They ended up canceling the outdoor address by the president altogether.

    Interesting that another of the Lincoln Project astroturfers took to twitter to gloat that his own kids were involved in this scam. Says everything you need to know about Numbers’ favourite fake Republicans.

  75. notafan

    And as for the genocide where evil colonialists killed themselves and others with diseases they had no idea of how they were transmitted.

    I read an excellent history of the plague once, the Italians were so close to working it out but like some aboriginal rock art the miscreants couldn’t be seen with the naked eye.

    And I guess we can figure why he might think the holocaust wasn’t that bad.

  76. Cassie of Sydney

    “Neo-con and sworn Trump opponent Bill Kristol is behind this group.”

    I don’t think that Bill Kristol has ever come across a war he didn’t like…much like John Bolton.

  77. Maj

    Who’s Who of Melbourne Gangs, but why won’t the Hun mention their religion?

  78. notafan

    I dunno Maj

    If they are Sudanese they are likely to be nominally Christian or perhaps animists.

    Pacific islanders, most likely Christian.

    Facebook group need to do some homework before they post.

  79. *Low trans fat food is bigoted.*

    It will happen.

  80. calli

    And you and me and most other women who speak this truth are now routinely smeared as “menstruators” and “TERFS”….women who query or question the trans lobby are now routinely threatened on twitter and Facebook (funny how they never get banned for life)…in fact even saying on twitter that “men can’t be women” will get you permanently banned from twitter….as what happened to Canadian feminist Meghan Murphy.

    And both smears would be lies as well. 😁

    It’s nice being a horrid old woman sometimes!

    As for soshul meeja, erk. Why bother. Tribal grievance baiting platform is a better description.

  81. 1735099

    Let’s list a few genocides, in no particular order –
    The Palawa.
    The Armenians.
    Native Americans.
    The Joos in WW2.
    The Carthaginians.
    The Congolese under Leopold.
    An Gorta Mor.
    The Great Bengal Famine.
    Circassian genocide.
    Albigensian Crusade.
    Decossackization.
    The Killing Fields.
    Indonesian mass killings – 65/66.
    If your source was Catallaxy, you’d be content to believe that genocide was only ever carried out in the name of Communism.
    No other belief is allowed – truth is heresy.
    The history shows that no specific belief or philosophy has a mortgage on mass killings carried out in the name of and ethnic or religious cleansing.

    Given the frequency of death threats to dissenters here, genocide is obviously accepted by the Cat Collective.

  82. notafan

    Please note double speak by police minister
    Crime down! All is well!

    Knife crime up 45% in five years. Street robberies, car jacking.

    Nothing to see here.

    Add that to the covid19 zones and we see a picture of two Melbournes

    Thanks mass immigration ponzi.
    age article

  83. Boambee John

    If your source was Catallaxy, you’d be content to believe that genocide was only ever carried out in the name of Communism.

    Finally, the bin chicken understands the closeness of communism and fascism!

    Or has he never noticed the many condemnations here of fascist genocide. Hint, bin chicken, look for condemnation of the Holocaust, happens pretty frequently here.

    PS, still pushing that “disease equals genocide” line after yesterday’s schooling by the Doomlord? Slow learner?

  84. thefrollickingmole

    Given the frequency of death threats to dissenters here, genocide is obviously accepted by the Cat Collective.

    FOAD you low wattage oxygen thief.*

    *not a genocide threat, unless Wang is a species of one

  85. Maj

    I dunno Maj

    If they are Sudanese they are likely to be nominally Christian or perhaps animists.

    Pacific islanders, most likely Christian.

    Facebook group need to do some homework before they post.

    Really? What about this: “Sudan is a staunchly Islamic country, often accused of supporting extremist groups.”

  86. Bruce of Newcastle

    If your source was Catallaxy, you’d be content to believe that genocide was only ever carried out in the name of Communism.

    No no, Numbers, we’re quite willing to acknowledge that the Armenian Massacre was carried out by a certain religion. Who have carried quite a few such evils. Some might even regard it as a sort of proto-socialism given its tenets.

  87. notafan

    Words mean exactly what I say they mean when I want them to mean the meaning I mean and never what they are understood to mean by reasonable people.

    Go away you prevaricating lying liar.

    Going to war and losing is not a genocide, for starters.

  88. Boambee John

    The bin chicken has still not grasped the difference between malicious acts and the combination of (medical) ignorance and bureaucratic incompetence/indifference,

  89. notafan

    Yes Bruce

    The Armenian genocide was the blue print for later 20th century genocides.

  90. Cassie of Sydney

    “””Given the frequency of death threats to dissenters here, genocide is obviously accepted by the Cat Collective.”

    I wonder if the degenerate would care to provide evidence of his outlandish smear that “frequency of death threats to dissenters here“…I haven’t seen any death threats and if there were, Sinclair would deal very promptly with any person who made such a threat or threats.

    And people wonder why I call the Toowoomba degenerate a fraud, a fabricator and a liar.

  91. Maj

    I dunno Maj

    If they are Sudanese they are likely to be nominally Christian or perhaps animists.

    Pacific islanders, most likely Christian.

    Facebook group need to do some homework before they post.

    Really? How about this: https://www.opendoors.org.au/persecuted-christians/world-watch-list/sudan

  92. Farmer Gez

    The Great Bengal Famine.

    Failure of the Monsoon.

    Weird little man.

  93. calli

    On the TikTok scamming teens, it’s a classic “bait and switch”.

    What they think they’ll get.

    The terrible truth.

    Idiots.

  94. Cassie of Sydney

    “The Armenian genocide was the blue print for later 20th century genocides.”

    Yes it was….and Hitler infamously said “who remembers the Armenians”.

  95. Twitter is alight this morning with reports that dozens of teens reserved thousands of rally tickets to sabotage the optics of Trump’s speech.

    Baaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahaha!

  96. H B Bear

    He’s been wrong a few times but even Dr Norman Swan bells the cat on the ALPBC saying The Hunchback has been “… less than transparent” on his daily Coronacast.

    When you do a favour to yout Liar maaates and undo 3 months of public health sacrifice by everyone. Even Victoriastanis must be starting to get it.

  97. calli

    Baaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahaha!

    Indeed. I agreed at 9:09.

  98. Cassie of Sydney

    “Weird little man.”

    And to think he taught children.

  99. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Failure of the Monsoon.

    Weird little man.

    Failure of the monsoon, Japanese occupation of Burma preventing access to stocks of rice, and grain traders hoarding stocks, waiting for the price to rise.

  100. Mother Lode

    Its almost impressive to see both narratives parroted within an hour of each other, real doublethink in action.

    Contradiction is only fatal if you are trying to get to the truth.

    If you are just trying to get a Boo-Hooray from your own lot then this this will get twice the juices flowing that you would get with only one.

    Of course, for all they have achieved they have pissed off a lot of Trump supporters (particularly those who decided not to RSVP because it seemed pointless), their friends, and a lot of Trump supporters outside Tulsa.

    Possibly also lost some support among Democrat voters who are not rabid socialists and think the contest should be fair.

  101. Exit Stage Right

    [email protected].

    “And people wonder why I call the Toowoomba degenerate a fraud, a fabricator and a liar”.

    Not me, its pretty clear really. I think most on the Cat would agree.

  102. H B Bear

    mUnty – every Twatter keyboard warrior giving themselves a pat on the back.

    Is Biden still in his basement or has Weekend at Joes resumed screening?

  103. Mother Lode

    I sometimes wonder how many fewer Russians would have died in WW2 if the army had not had its officer corp hollowed out to make room for political functionaries.

    And if the political leadership did not foster a culture of concealment, obsequiousness to Stalin, and petty rivalries.

  104. Exit Stage Right

    Monty thinks that leftard snowflakes buying tickets to Trumps rally in Tulsa and not using them to create bad optics is so funny. A clear demonstration of the derangement of his political heroes.

  105. Maj

    Ah so this is why the Tulsa rally had a lot of empty seats.
    https://twitter.com/RCamposDuffy/status/1274679933332336642

    Trump is too smart to fall for that.

    Brad Parscale: Campaign Was Not Duped, Media Scared Supporters from Tulsa Rally

    Parscale blamed the media’s negative reporting before the rally for the small crowds, criticizing them for stoking coronavirus fears and reports of possible protests and riots.

    “The fact is that a week’s worth of the fake news media warning people away from the rally because of COVID and protestors, coupled with recent images of American cities on fire, had a real impact on people bringing their families and children to the rally,” he wrote.

    Parscale also expressed frustration with reporters who “wrote gleefully” about the TikTok and K-Pop fans who artificially boosted the number of sign-ups for Trump’s rally in Tulsa on Saturday.

    “Leftists and online trolls doing a victory lap, thinking they somehow impacted rally attendance, don’t know what they’re talking about or how our rallies work,” he said.

    Parscale insisted that the campaign weeded out tens of thousands of fake registrations that were not part of their planning.

    “What makes this lame attempt at hacking our events even more foolish is the fact that every rally is general admission – entry is on a first-come-first-served basis and prior registration is not required,” he said.

  106. notafan

    Gosh Monty I was just wondering if Maj was your sock and out you popped.

    Of course sauce for the goose can also be sauce for the gander.

  107. Bruce of Newcastle

    Hey m0nty! If leftwing activists are so willing to fraudulently reserve tickets to a Trump rally multiple times, does that mean leftwing activists would also be willing to fraudulently vote multiple times?

  108. Farmer Gez

    Interestingly, Commie Bob has failed to list the Ukrainian famine in his list.
    It was a deliberate starvation carried out by the soviets and there is indisputable documentation support the fact.

    Don’t visit the Ukraine wee Bob, you may not be popular.

  109. Geriatric Mayfly

    Like the rock paintings in exposed areas that have survived weathering when the surrounding rocks have not.

    Before taking the mallet and chisel to Mt. Rushmore, the wielder had on hand an estimate of the erosion rate of the granite outcrop. It came to one inch every 100,000 years. So he added 3 inches to facial features of his subjects. Wondering if the Abos did similar calculations.

  110. rickw

    Monty thinks that leftard snowflakes buying tickets to Trumps rally in Tulsa and not using them to create bad optics is so funny. A clear demonstration of the derangement of his political heroes.

    Whatever it takes….

  111. thefrollickingmole

    One Roosevelt cancelled.

    The Teddy Roosevelt statue will be removed from the Natural History Museum
    https://newsdio.com/the-teddy-roosevelt-statue-will-be-removed-from-the-natural-history-museum/127523/

  112. Maj

    God Bless President Trump.

  113. twostix

    Twitter is alight this morning with reports that dozens of teens reserved thousands of rally tickets to sabotage the optics of Trump’s speech.

    Letfwing idiots crowing about working with CCP social media to interfer with the US election.

    This is the retarded old left we all know and love.

  114. twostix

    Remember that the left always accuse you of doing what they are doing.

    So when they were saying that everything and anything on the Internet was a Russian bot, it wasn’t, but we’ll shortly find out that Chinese bots and influence are about to run wild with their blessing.

  115. Interestingly, Commie Bob has failed to list the Ukrainian famine in his list.

    Also, the genocide perpetrated by the Viet Cong.

  116. mh

    Hey m0nty! If leftwing activists are so willing to fraudulently reserve tickets to a Trump rally multiple times, does that mean leftwing activists would also be willing to fraudulently vote multiple times?

    Yes, and they would be happy to work hand in glove with the Chinese Communist Party to do it.

  117. twostix

    Imagine being a nearly 50 year old man like m0nty and still being into the same politics that “teenagers”on TikTok are into.

    It’s a manifestation of the fact that as teenagers themselves they were complete losers and outcasts. They carry that wound through their lives and forever attempt to seek validation from the next generation of teenagers.

    “Am I cool yet??”

  118. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I sometimes wonder how many fewer Russians would have died in WW2 if the army had not had its officer corp hollowed out to make room for political functionaries.

    “Myths and Legends of the Eastern Front – Reassessing the Great Patriotic War” by Boris Sokolov makes the case that Stalin saw a professional army as being a threat to his absolute power – he preferred a poorly trained militia that would “bury the enemy with corpses.” Interesting reading.

  119. Makka

    What Joe Biden’s Event Was Like

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/17/us/politics/joe-biden-campaign-event.html

    The failed attempt to sabotage Trump’s rally is because the leftscum try to hide this disaster.

  120. twostix

    It will absolutely be found that under the thin layer of dopey TikTok useful idiots, the vast bulk of reservations were made by bots of chinese origin.

    But like all these things, it has served its purpose.

  121. They carry that wound through their lives and forever attempt to seek validation from the next generation of teenagers.

    You’ve got to seek validation internally. The only person you’re accountable to is the man in the mirror.

    Imagine trying to impress people who were children at the time, who gave you shit decades ago?

    My god would you take life advice from a 15 year old now?

    Insanity.

  122. Mitch M.

    “Myths and Legends of the Eastern Front – Reassessing the Great Patriotic War” by Boris Sokolov makes the case that Stalin saw a professional army as being a threat to his absolute power – he preferred a poorly trained militia that would “bury the enemy with corpses.” Interesting reading.

    That certainly was the case with the Winter War. The Soviets kept throwing troops at the Fins and let the bodies pile up.

  123. It will absolutely be found that under the thin layer of dopey TikTok useful idiots, the vast bulk of reservations were made by bots of chinese origin.

    Welp, imagine trying to impress a Chinese bot!

  124. twostix

    So is the narrative that nobody turned up at trumps campaign because they don’t like him anymore, or that nobody turned up because he was Epically Trolled By CCP TikTok Maoists which prevented his supporters from getting tickets?

    Somehow they’re running both narratives at once at the moment.

  125. Stalin was kind of right.

    The professionalism of the East German border guards actually sealed the fate of the Eastern Bloc.

    “I could no longer fire tear gas because I could not square it with my conscience”

  126. Parscale blamed the media’s negative reporting before the rally for the small crowds, criticizing them for stoking coronavirus fears and reports of possible protests and riots.

    Such low energy, sad!

    The only thing saving Parscale’s job is that he knows where the bodies are buried.

  127. mh

    Imagine being a nearly 50 year old man like m0nty and still being into the same politics that “teenagers”on TikTok are into.

    Monty is self isolating with plenty of K-Pop videos.

  128. stackja

    Any MSM story about Trump is fake news.

  129. twostix

    The thing we know about m0ntyesque leftists is that they are too clever by half.

    The empty seats narrative nearly worked for about five minutes, as in “nobody cared to turn out”.

    Then the montyesque left came along and complete blew it up. Now everyone is talking about this chinese / democrat alliance preventing trump supporters from getting tickets.

    How can anybody be this bad at everything? You couldn’t pay these people to be a more perfect opposition!

  130. Cassie of Sydney

    “Such low energy, sad!”

    Yes you are Munchy…you really need to give up that Krispy Kreme donuts addiction….not healthy.

  131. Cassie of Sydney

    “is that he knows where the bodies are buried.”

    Much like Dan the Man in Victoriastan.

  132. mh

    Trump was still on his A game despite the sabotage from the Left, and the rally had a massive online audience.

  133. lotocoti

    Failure of the Monsoon.

    Let’s not forget population growth outstripping food production
    due to evil imperialist health improvements.
    Also, Long Lance and G7e torpedoes.

  134. notafan

    Numbers working on next PhD proposal.

    Genocide through the ages. What conservative Christianity has done to, well everyone really.

  135. notafan

    Of course Team Trump really really thought one million people were heading for Tulsa.

    And the publicity over those alleged online reservations.

    Just terrible for his campaign.

  136. Farmer Gez

    Neil Mitchell 3aw complaining loud and long that Dan Andrews is hiding from the media.
    Daily pressers are limited and Andrews only answers questions he wants.
    Mitchell says all they get is press releases and pure spin from the health authorities.

  137. mh

    The only thing saving Parscale’s job is that he knows where the bodies are buried.

    The story has played out well for Trump, thanks to the Left.

    However, Brad will be fired if he stuffed up.

  138. Geriatric Mayfly

    Neil Mitchell 3aw complaining loud and long that Dan Andrews is hiding from the media.

    The Hunchback simply being a noble example to us all by keeping his social distance.

  139. Bruce of Newcastle

    Tintin unpersoned.

    Tintin loses sheen over Belgium’s Congo history (Paywallian today)

    Tintin’s homeland has been struck especially hard by the historical backlash from the Black Lives Matters movement.

    Will Asterix be banned because the Romans owned slaves? What about the Greeks? Oh, um…

    Why Parthenon could be next on hit list (also in today’s Paywallian)

    Imperfect regimes used slavery to leave a mark, from the pyramids to the Parthenon.

    Year zero!

  140. Mitch M.

    Cancer’s reliance on fat could be targeted with new ‘drugs and diet’ treatment

    It is an interesting idea but I can’t see how it will be practical.

    In the new study, the scientists found that a molecule called PI3K—which is vital to the growth and survival of cancer cells—has a key role in triggering the release of arachidonic acid, a key omega-6 fat.

    That’s somewhat misleading because P13K and arachidonic acid are ubiquitous in cells.

    It is good to see this type of research because it demonstrates the research community has long moved beyond the mutation model and developing and understanding of the cancer cell metabolism. That’s promising but to end on a grim note: it has occurred to me that the more we understand some pathologies the more we realise there cannot be a cure. Medicine doesn’t perform miracles, there are physical constraints on what is possible. Remember all the hype about stem cells? Decades later extremely limited clinical application.

  141. Geriatric Mayfly

    Why Parthenon could be next on hit list (also in today’s Paywallian)

    Can’t wait for them to have a crack at the Great Wall of China. Or should we assume the labourers received a basic wage, overtime, paid holidays and a string of other hard won benefits.

  142. Benefits included free burial at a national government built memorial!

  143. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Posturing does nothing to further black equality

    You know the bounds of credulity in the Black Lives Matter debate have been stretched when Mosman millionaires are asking what they can do to support the revolution in the US.

    From Media
    June 22, 2020
    4 minute read
    157

    Last Sunday week, after a puerile discussion about “how breasts work”, Network Ten’s The Project turned its focus to the police violence, Black Lives Matter and racial discrimination issues tearing the US apart. Lisa Wilkinson interviewed African-American activist Kimberly Jones, who had become, as they say, a social media sensation because of what Wilkinson called a “stunningly eloquent” video in a “brutally honest voice”.

    In her video and interview, an angry Jones suggested inequality in the US was such that African-Americans were “that poor” and “that broke” that the only way they could obtain the things that the rest of society “flaunt and flash” is to smash a window and “get what they need”. Wilkinson did not challenge Jones on whether this matched the evidence of arson, vandalism and the looting of smart TVs, sporting equipment, guitars and even works of art.

    Instead, Wilkinson asked what Jones might say to “people who do recognise the very real need for change” but have “difficulty getting past the violence that they see and the looting that they see”. ­Apparently, those of us who draw the line at violence and looting need wise counsel.

    In her viral video rant, Jones ­argued the social contract was broken and “as far as I’m concerned they can burn this bitch to the ground (gesturing to her Atlanta neighbourhood) and it still wouldn’t be enough — and they are lucky that what black people are looking for is equality and not revenge”. The conversation was about as reassuring as a home invasion, but from Wilkinson’s tone and demeanour you would have thought she was sitting at the feet of Martin Luther King Jr.

    “I have to say personally Kimberly,” said Wilkinson, “watching your video and really listening for the last couple of weeks, I’ve never really understood the white privilege that I’ve grown up with, as much as I do now. What can people like me do, who’ve never really understood but do now?” What a stellar question — what can Mosman millionaires do to overcome their white privilege and support revolution in the US?

    From the Oz. Seriously?

  144. stackja

    Let the society that never had a problem, be the first to cast down stones.

  145. I recommend following this if you want to follow very large transactions in crypto, but also USD.

    https://twitter.com/whale_alert

  146. Pretty much stackja.

    Everywhere has been invaded and had some form of servitude.

    Either we go from what we have or we start destroying it.

  147. Des Deskperson

    From the paywalled – maybe just as well because it contains some pretty nasty stuff – Canberra Times:

    “A Senior manger at ACT Health who admitted to various child sex abuse crimes was allowed to keep working after his arrest.

    Bradley John Burch pleaded guilty to having child pornography on his phone and also sending child pornography to others.

    But he continued to work for ACT Health for more than six months after his home was raided on October 10 last year.

    As an employee, he he is alleged to have continued participating in internal ACT Health chat-rooms where parents exchanged pictures of their children, not knowing of the child pornography charges”.

    It is interesting to note:

    that Burch wasn’ just a clerk; he was an ‘Executive Manager’, head of a branch, part of the ACT PS management elite and probably on a total remuneration package of around $200,000:

    it’s unclear why he was allowed to remain in his job. The reporting arrangements for these cases appear to be circumlocutory, but ‘privacy’ and ‘human rights’ issues have also been suggested:

    it’s not been suggested that his senior mates and mate-esses protected him.

  148. P

    Posted on June 21, 2020 by sundance

    Very comprehensive article. (not sure that the link will get through the filter)

  149. Roger

    Apologies for the length, but thi sis worth reading:

    Black civil rights veteran Shelby Steele on BLM

    “That’s been the question all along: What do they want? I remember growing up in the civil rights movement, everybody knew exactly what we wanted. This insurrection just seems sort of unclear. It’s unmotivated by anything it says itself. So what is it really about? I think what is happening is that there is nothing really new. The civil rights argument that triggered this, that there was police abuse, is a very familiar story. We saw that in Ferguson, Missouri.

    It seems to me that in many ways it’s about power. In order to pursue power as they do, you have to have victims. Wow, the excitement that creates on the Left. It validates their claims that America is a wretched country, and they must get their recourse. It feeds this old model of operation that we’ve developed, that America is guilty of racism, guilty of this sin, and has been for 400 years, and minorities are victims who are entitled.

    So when people start to talk about systemic racism, built into the system, what they’re really doing is expanding the territory of entitlement. We want more. We want society to give us more. Society is responsible for us, because racism is so systemic. Well, that’s a corruption, and I know it’s a corruption, because the truth of the matter is blacks have never been less oppressed than they are today.

    Opportunity is around every corner. In all of this, no one ever stops to say, well, you’re unhappy with where minorities are at in American life, and blacks continue to be at the bottom of most socioeconomic measures. You’re unhappy about that. Well, why don’t you take some responsibility for that? Why don’t you take more responsibility? I would be happy to look at all the usual bad guys, the police and so forth, if we had the nerve, the courage to look at black people.

    To look at black Americans, minority Americans, and say, you’re not carrying your own weight. You’re gonna go have a fit and a tantrum and demonstrate, [but] are you teaching your child to read? Are you making sure that the school down the street actually educates your child? Are you becoming educated and following a dream in life and making things happen for yourself? Or are you saying, I’m a victim, and I’m owed, and the entitlement is inadequate? I need more, and after all, you whites, you know racism has been here for four centuries with slavery and so forth, so it’s time for you to give to me.

    Well, that’s an exhausted, fruitless, empty strategy to take. We’ve been on that path since the 60s. We’re farther behind than we’ve ever been, and we keep blaming it on racism, blaming it on the police. I’m exhausted with that. I grew up in a time when there was real segregation. Blacks during the ’50s took a lot of responsibility for their lives, because the government didn’t. My father bought three ramshackle houses, rebuilt them, rented them out, kept clawing his way up the ladder. A man with a third-grade education from the South. What civil rights bill is going to replace that? That value system?

    And he was not exceptional. Across the community we lived in, those were the values. That is the problem. We have allowed ourselves to be enabled in avoiding our real problems by a guilty white society. It keeps using us and exploiting us as victims. If you really care about how minorities do, why don’t you ask them to do it? Why don’t you ask them to drop the pretense?

    There’s always going to be some racism, in every society. My own sense is that it is endemic to the human condition. We will always have to watch out for it. As I like to always say, stupidity is also endemic to the human condition, and we have to watch out for that too. That is no excuse for us to be where we are right now in American life. We have let this sort of guilty society, and our grievance industry, put us in this impossible situation where we are a permanent underclass. Before the ’60s, there was no black underclass. That’s a new phenomenon.”

  150. Ed Case

    Let’s list a few genocides, in no particular order –

    The Great Bengal Famine.

    Agree up to this one.
    There was a failure of the wheat crop in 1943 in Bengal, Churchill organised a 350,000 ton shipment from Australia and a smaller shipment from Canada. The wheat arrived, but was hoarded by dealers
    unsure of the extent of the famine.
    Churchill then asked Roosevelt for U.S. grain shipments to Bengal and was knocked back.
    The real story was Brahmin middlemen greatly exacerbating the famine through greed,
    rather than a deliberate policy of the British government.

  151. stackja

    Roger
    #3492596, posted on June 22, 2020 at 10:48 am

    That is no excuse for us to be where we are right now in American life. We have let this sort of guilty society, and our grievance industry, put us in this impossible situation where we are a permanent underclass. Before the ’60s, there was no black underclass. That’s a new phenomenon.”

    USA Democrats need a black underclass.

  152. PeterM

    Maj
    #3492517, posted on June 22, 2020 at 9:04 am
    I dunno Maj

    If they are Sudanese they are likely to be nominally Christian or perhaps animists.

    Pacific islanders, most likely Christian.

    Facebook group need to do some homework before they post.

    Really? What about this: “Sudan is a staunchly Islamic country, often accused of supporting extremist groups.”

    Hi Maj, the difference is between north and south Sudan. North was invaded by I–slamic hordes, South, not so much. Most of the refigees in Australia are from the south.

  153. PeterM

    And the Pacific Islander killed the other day was a Mormon (Latter Day Saints etc) I think- I understand that those from Tonga are usually Mormon or Methodist

  154. dover_beach

    I am not doing that though.

    I am saying the state has no right to legislate with respect to certain matters (because of freedom of association, equal protection and the right to privacy).

    As I said above, you are saying that so far as the state is concerned a man starting and raising a family is on a par with a woman that is too fond of her pony. This is the end point of the value neutrality of liberalism.

    I am also saying that in the US, the correct Federalist (and classically liberal) approach is to leave things not enumerated to the Congress, to the states (like marriage).

    This clearly compromises what you allege above, namely, that the state has no right to legislate in certain areas. If that is true, that applies to both State and Federal levels of government.

  155. Mitch M.

    Before the ’60s, there was no black underclass. That’s a new phenomenon.”

    Read “Caste and Class in a Southern Town”.

  156. Bret Weinstein on Rogan again:

    Joe Rogan Experience #1494 – Bret Weinstein

    Bret Weinstein was a biology professor at Evergreen State College in Olympia, WA. He is now hosting “Bret Weinstein’s Dark Horse Podcast” available on Apple Podcasts and YouTube.

    “We are headed for a collision with history. We are facing scenarios that end in boogaloo”

  157. Now everyone is talking about this chinese / democrat alliance preventing trump supporters from getting tickets.

    Nobody was prevented from getting tickets. No one was prevented from turning up. Trump won OK by what, 33 points?

    The fact is that Trump’s campaign has all the momentum of a boy snivelling at the bottom of a mine shaft.

  158. The real story was Brahmin middlemen greatly exacerbating the famine through greed,
    rather than a deliberate policy of the British government.

    There are clear similarities to An Gorta Mor, in which case the middlemen were the British landlords in Ireland who used their powers without compunction.

    This, and the fact that both took place under “benevolent” British administration were common factors.
    Greed does not have any racial or national affiliation.
    It is universal, and it kills.

  159. stackja

    Tag team. Scrolling, scrolling….

  160. EvilElvis

    Has that Irish fuckwit, his manager, his Essendon handlers and the dickheads who decided they needed to bring back an international player who is crap been strung up yet?

  161. As I said above, you are saying that so far as the state is concerned a man starting and raising a family is on a par with a woman that is too fond of her pony. This is the end point of the value neutrality of liberalism.

    Only if you are limited to think that so far. If you need religion to justify your position, fine. I have no problem with custom either, up to a point. To say liberalism is entirely value neutral is not correct, nor is that a valid conclusion.

    This clearly compromises what you allege above, namely, that the state has no right to legislate in certain areas. If that is true, that applies to both State and Federal levels of government.

    I think the state should be much, much smaller. However the US constitution ought to be followed.

    That’s correct: the State and Federal government has no business in legislating sex between consenting adults. There is also no legal basis to do so.

    I don’t think the state ought to be involved in marriage at all. The Federal government has no power over marriage, legitimately. The US States however do if the people of the state enable it, either by the elected legislature or by CIR/plebiscite.

  162. Hmmm

    Rogan seems a little naive with Rayshard. I thought he dindu nuffiun as well for a bit.

    Jocko is right too. The cops are under-trained.

  163. Top Ender

    Great article by Shelby Steele!

    Do you have a link Roger?

  164. thefrollickingmole

    Germany trying to pick a new failed ideology to glom onto…
    https://www.dw.com/en/controversial-lenin-statue-unveiled-in-germanys-gelsenkirchen/a-53880002

    “The time for monuments to racists, anti-Semites, fascists, anti-communists and other relics of the past has clearly passed,” MLPD chairwoman Gabi Fechtner said in a statement.

    By contrast, “Lenin was an ahead-of-his-time thinker of world-historical importance, an early fighter for freedom and democracy,” she argued.

    Wang will be positively turgid for the rest of the day.

  165. mh

    Tim Pool
    @Timcast
    ·
    10h
    One of the tactics used by Russia to meddle was the use of social media to manipulate public perception

    This is a Chinese app facilitating the largest most impactful election meddling we have seen yet, assuming its true

    How much of Trump’s campaign was flooded with bunk data?
    Quote Tweet

    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
    @AOC
    · Jun 21
    Actually you just got ROCKED by teens on TikTok who flooded the Trump campaign w/ fake ticket reservations & tricked you into believing a million people wanted your white supremacist open mic enough to pack an arena during COVID

    Shout out to Zoomers. Y’all make me so proud. ☺️

  166. Bruce of Newcastle

    The fact is that Trump’s campaign has all the momentum of a boy snivelling at the bottom of a mine shaft.

    Biden got 4 people to his latest rally that I can see. One was himself, another was his sign lady and two people were in the front row along with two empty seats. The white supremacy circles were fun.

    Momentum!

  167. candy

    As an employee, he he is alleged to have continued participating in internal ACT Health chat-rooms where parents exchanged pictures of their children, not knowing of the child pornography charges”.

    It’s hard to know what to think with that. Is the ACT public service so slack they took months to realise this man was still employed and working in an environment with children, or the Federal Police so slack they did not follow up to see if he was still working in that environment.

  168. Bruce of Newcastle

    Ok, five. Someone had to take the photo.

  169. One ex-soldier’s view of Trump –

  170. “Democrats Demanding Justice against Jussie”

  171. mh

    The story now is how willing the Democratic Party is to work with the Chinese Communist Party to steal the election in November.

  172. Cassie of Sydney

    Warning..bin chicken is here looking for attention.

  173. calli

    Thanks, Roger.

    Steele answers the question I posed last night. “What do they want?”

    It won’t stop until it’s made to stop.

  174. lotocoti

    Faith and begorrah, the feckin’ ijit’s broken out the gaeltacht for the praties.

  175. Mater

    Has that Irish fuckwit, his manager, his Essendon handlers and the dickheads who decided they needed to bring back an international player who is crap been strung up yet?

    C’mon Elvis. Get with the program.
    Bread is in abundance. Dan needed the circuses.

  176. twostix

    Nobody was prevented from getting tickets. No one was prevented from turning up. Trump won OK by what, 33 points?

    The fact is that Trump’s campaign has all the momentum of a boy snivelling at the bottom of a mine shaft.

    Poor m0nty.

    “Hey kids, I know what ‘TikTok’ is and i’m a cool old person who likes what the politics you like, I’m cool right?”

  177. Dr Faustus

    Their ABC has seen the future – and it’s a disturbing one:

    Government’s plan for ‘job-relevant’ degrees may backfire in 10 years’ time

    A future Australia, desperately short of humanities graduates, is doomed to failure because a lack of “skills for the next generation”. Worse, it will be overstocked with out-of-date STEM graduates:

    …high-skilled vocational preparation provided by STEM degrees — in the US labour market — paved a “smoother transition” for college graduates entering the workforce, but the rapid pace of technological change often led to a “short shelf life for technical skills”.

    Amazingly, I still find some vestigial use for the maths, materials science and engineering principles I learned at Uni in the 1970’s – and 40-odd years of CPD has helped me grope my way around important 21st century ‘skills’ like 3-D printing, AI, and Apps.

    But I obviously missed the eternal verities of Communications, Queer Studies, and Cinema Appreciation.

  178. Bruce of Newcastle

    One ex-soldier’s view of Trump

    Haha, another “lifelong Republican”.
    Here you go Numbers.

  179. dover_beach

    Only if you are limited to think that so far. If you need religion to justify your position, fine. I have no problem with custom either, up to a point. To say liberalism is entirely value neutral is not correct, nor is that a valid conclusion.

    Who said anything about religion? You simply have given no grounds for a different conclusion.

    That’s correct: the State and Federal government has no business in legislating sex between consenting adults. There is also no legal basis to do so.

    I don’t think the state ought to be involved in marriage at all. The Federal government has no power over marriage, legitimately. The US States however do if the people of the state enable it, either by the elected legislature or by CIR/plebiscite.

    Again, you simply demonstrate my point re liberalism, and all this talk of what the US States can do is beside the point as liberalism inexorably pushes the law to conjure ‘rights’ that were never envisioned in the beginning but which the premises entail at all levels of government, which is what happened re marriage in the US.

  180. stackja

    Dr Faustus
    #3492627, posted on June 22, 2020 at 11:20 am

    Cinema Appreciation degree?
    Did John Huston graduate?

  181. Delta A

    Actually you just got ROCKED by teens on TikTok who flooded the Trump campaign w/ fake ticket reservations & tricked you

    Leftists, including Monty, praising a bunch of lying teenagers.

    Appalling example to youth.

    Appalling ‘values’.

  182. calli

    Amazingly, I still find some vestigial use for the maths, materials science and engineering principles I learned at Uni in the 1970’s – and 40-odd years of CPD has helped me grope my way around important 21st century ‘skills’ like 3-D printing, AI, and Apps.

    Very fancy. My best effort was using “useless” algebra to upsize complex knitting patterns, which when broken down are just equations with sets and subsets.

    And patchwork is glorious geometry, mostly Pythagoras unless you get onto the wonders of Mariner’s compasses and spirals.

    And that’s just the soft hobbies.

  183. Makka

    future Australia, desperately short of humanities graduates,

    Desperately short? LMFAO.

    The ABC need to see more loons at the “protests”. Here you go mUnty, great prospects for the kids in SJW careers.

  184. EvilElvis

    C’mon Elvis. Get with the program.

    I really do get the impression that’s the case with the level of lunacy around nowadays. We here are certainly not the ‘normal’ ones.

  185. Arky

    Legalise Sedition
    #3492398, posted on June 22, 2020 at 12:19 am
    DB your argument is no better than sticking your tongue out and scowling. It is just trash. The actual snippets about law are not based on fact at all.

    ..
    The nyah nyah na na nahhhhh argument.
    See libertarian debate script 3A (ii) for when best to deploy this tactic.

  186. shatterzzz

    And so after 97 days and over 3 500kms bike riding to make it up & keep active the POOL has re-opened.
    Because of 1 person to a lane restrictions they’ve split the outdoor (indoor 25mts still closed) 50 mts into 2 x 25 mts lengths .. no splashing/playing around just lap swimming . to allow more access.
    Didn’t matter this morning as I had the pool to myself .. two, probable reasons, 1 .. it’s the middle of winter & 2 .. no official announcement (I’m aware of) so most folk wouldn’t know swimming is BACK!
    Anyway, all that bike-riding seems to have paid off! ..
    100 x 25 mts laps (2.5kms) in 93 minutes .. not bad for 72 ..!
    Can’t remember the last time I swam so far, so easily, in one go .. may never manage that again but still it was a wonderful feeling TODAY! .. legs felt like they had another km left but the arms were getting to the YOUR KIDDING stage .. GAME OVER!

  187. rickw

    Amazingly, I still find some vestigial use for the maths, materials science and engineering principles I learned at Uni in the 1970’s – and 40-odd years of CPD has helped me grope my way around important 21st century ‘skills’ like 3-D printing, AI, and Apps.

    I’ve taught basic CNC programming to people, those with a solid grasps of geometry and trigonometry and basic machining picked it up quickly. Those with a solid understanding of Twitter and Tik-Tok, not so much.

    Anything useful and important has it’s roots in the fundamentals of mathematics and engineering.

    PS: If you’ve got any tips for an Ender 3, let me know, my first Bowden drive printer, what a temperamental POS, why the hell bowden drive 3D printers are a thing is beyond me. Great in theory, shit in practice.

  188. Mater

    One ex-soldier’s view of Trump –

    So, he’s lived in countries like Italy, who have authoritarian regimes? How old is he?

    No. He admits to not being able to vote for a Trump in 2016. He goes in the same pot as Colin Powell. Just another Never Trumper.

    BTW Bob, you’re an ex-soldier, and I think your views are deranged.
    Why the sudden (and new found) respect for the intellect of US Servicemen?

  189. Mother Lode

    I am beginning to think that the Americans and the British are being punished for the historical fault of abolishing slavery. A ancient (if unpleasant) institution seen by many as natural.

    Every previous generation took us one step closer to where we are today. They started in what we would call imperfect societies and made them a bit better, then passed it on to the next generation. Steadily the lot of people improve.

    But now anyone who doesn’t have our sensibilities (or, more precisely, current progressive sensibilities) is being tarred with all the evils of their age. Problem is that they did more to improve the human condition than any of these protesters – who merely inherited a world given with no awareness, much less gratitude.

  190. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘One ex-soldier’s view’

    You’d think Liability Bob would have learned after he tried that with massacre-coverer-upperer Powell, and Matt is as well.

    But no. 1.3 million people in the US military, and then some.

    Anyone seen one of 45’s military rallies? They go berserk, and in a good way too.

    NB: As noted by others, Old Yeller missed the Holodomor. Keeps the spud famine in, but somehow omitted a very deliberate Stalinist campaign to knock over four million – MILLION – pesky Tuftys* in Russia’s food bowl.

    *Derogatory Russian term for Ukrainians, based on their haircuts.

  191. Des Deskperson

    ‘It’s hard to know what to think with that. Is the ACT public service so slack they took months to realise this man was still employed and working in an environment with children, or the Federal Police so slack they did not follow up to see if he was still working in that environment.’

    Probably yes to both, Candy, but in the APS, a employee charged with a criminal offence is obliged to inform his/her agency. I assume that it’s the same in the ACT PS, which is closely based on the APS integrity framework.

    We don’t know if Burch ever did this.

  192. Dr Faustus

    Very fancy. My best effort was using “useless” algebra to upsize complex knitting patterns, which when broken down are just equations with sets and subsets.

    Algebra is everywhere.
    Not everyone is smart enough to notice.
    (Particularly ABC opinionistas.)

  193. Makka

    Every previous generation took us one step closer to where we are today.

    The very last thing the leftscum want is for the young to learn from history. There is far too much leftist failure, destruction and violence back there.

  194. Roger

    Great article by Shelby Steele!

    Do you have a link Roger?

    It’s a transcript of what he said on Mark Levin’s program, TE.

    I think this is the right episode.

  195. Roger

    Before the ’60s, there was no black underclass. That’s a new phenomenon.”

    Read “Caste and Class in a Southern Town”.

    Broadly in sociology the definition of the term ‘underclass’ is debated, but I think we can assume in the present context that Steele is talking here about this well known phenomen:

    The Origins of the Underclass

  196. LOL

    Poor little Arky.

    He can’t respond to the actual debate Dover and I have, but he gets triggered by the sniping.

    You’re so empathetic.

    Almost like Hillary Clinton with the snipers.

  197. notafan

    Maj doesn’t know that Sudan and South Sudan are two different countries.

    How embarrassing.

    Most of those who came here under the humanitarian programme are from the South.

  198. Maj

    Maj doesn’t know that Sudan and South Sudan are two different countries.

    How embarrassing.

    Most of those who came here under the humanitarian programme are from the South.

    The Herald-Sun said “Sudanese gangs” not “South Sudanese”.

    The Herald Sun can reveal gang members believed to be from the notorious Eastside Drillers (ESD) — mostly comprised of African youths responsible for violent street brawls, carjackings and home invasions — are preparing to cause havoc.

    Solomone Taufeulungaki, 15. was killed in an apparent gang attack. In other shocking footage sent to the Herald Sun, a youth gang member holds up a hammer to terrified youths and forces them to “kiss his shoes”.

    One boy, 17, who “ran with the Sudanese gangs” for two years until he was jailed for aggravated burglaries and car thefts, said the gangs were trying to gain power with fear.

    “They are live-streaming fights and uploading videos to Snapchat and Instagram because they want to show how tough they are,” he said.

    “They will come out of jail and get straight back into the gangs, they have no fear of the law.”

    If they were “Christian or perhaps animists” like you said, why is the Australians against radical RoP Facebook group making a big song and dance about it?

  199. 1814 CNN predecessor, the Parisian le Moniteur, reporting Napoleon’s return and demonstrating that journos have always been whores:
    10 March:
    The Corsican orge has landed at Cape Juan.
    11 March:
    The tiger is in Gap. Troops are on their way and will stop him . He will end his miserable adventure as a homeless refugee in the hills.
    12 March:
    The monster has succeeded in proceeding to Grenoble.
    13 March:
    The tyrant is now in Lyon. Horror has caught the people.
    19 March:
    Bonaparte approaches in a hurry, but he will not succeed in marching to Paris.
    20 March:
    Napoleon will be in Paris tomorrow.
    21 March:
    Emperor Naspoleon is in Fontainebleau.
    22 March;
    Yesterday evening His Majesty celebrated his arrival in Paris. The jubilation cannot be described.
    23 March.
    Citizen Alexander Occasio Cortez was killed by Napoleon’s troops while leading a mob attempting to burn down the “Imperialist Hyenas lair” – le Louvre.
    I might have used a touch of ABC style license in creating that last report but fact checkers have determned that it is essentially true.
    The rest however, is a true copy of what the rag reported. Nothing has changed.

  200. Ed Case

    There’s dispute about the religious demographics in South Sudan.
    Some say 60% Christian, the rest Traditional African religions and the I-religion.
    Some commenters then imply that the South Sudanese in Australia are largely or wholly Christians.
    The problem with assumptions like this is demonstrated by the Fraser Government’s program
    to bring Christian Lebanese refugees of that Country’s Civil War to Australia.
    Due to various issues common to UN refugee missions, 90% of those who made it to Australia before the program was shut down weren’t Christians.
    I suspect something similar happened in South Sudan, but too many vested interests get a slice of
    the Welfare cake, so it’s ”Nothing to see here, move along, they’re christians, dontcha know?”

  201. Bruce of Newcastle

    There’s dispute about the religious demographics in South Sudan.

    No. The dispute was the religious demographics of Sudan.
    Which was conflated with South Sudan.
    The conflation was the mistake.
    One is RoP, the other isn’t.

  202. Ed Case

    The Herald-Sun said “Sudanese gangs” not “South Sudanese”.

    They or their parents likely came to Australia before there was any such Country as South Sudan,
    so ”Sudanese gangs” is probably accurate.
    Has Australia even accepted any refugees from South Sudan? Why?
    You’d think not, but stranger thing have happened in Canberra.

  203. Ed Case

    No. The dispute was the religious demographics of Sudan.
    Which was conflated with South Sudan.
    The conflation was the mistake.

    Okay.

    One is RoP, the other isn’t.

    Definitely not right.
    See the link above.
    60% Christian, 32% Traditional African religions, 6% I. in South Sudan.
    Of that 60% Christians, Traditional Practices may form part of their christianity.

  204. The slipping away of my hero Vera Lynn has left me depressed. The last gossemer cord linking us to the high minded morality that defeated totalitarianism; has broken.
    The amoral future can be typified by the disgusting UK Guardian’s sneering orbit to this saint. “Everything earlier than my birthday must be destroyed”. “I am entitled, give me what I demand”.
    Anarchy, self interest, gangs, violent repression and purges, gulags, ignorance, minority rule, OH&S Commitees, block wardens, veganism, alcohol bans, needle exchanges, the ABC. This is our childrens’ future.
    The dark age has arrived. Based on historical social cycles, it will be our great great grandkids who will fight to liberate mankind once again.

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